/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
500ml of /vr/ RELEASED
UPDATED TO VERSION 2.0
https://www.moddb.com/mods/500-milliliters-of-vr

=== NEWS ===
[2-3] Wolfenstein themed Doom II mod Todesfaust released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/todesfaust-a-wolfenstein-story/downloads/todesfaust-a-wolfenstein-story

[2-2] 500 Milliliters of /vr/ updated to version 2, multiple bug fixes on map 2 and an alternate midi track
https://www.moddb.com/mods/500-milliliters-of-vr

[2-1] John Romero confirms no new unreleased Doom content due to objections by iD/Bethesda
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/119510-sad-news-on-new-unreleased-conntent/


[2-1] Benzo compilated Quake 2 AI bots for DM use, skin friendly
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/benzo-crazy-bot-pack

[2-1] Community project 500 Millileters of /vr/ released
https://archive.org/details/500ml-vr-halloween-beta

[2-1] HAPPY BIRTHDAY iD SOFTWARE! iD turns 30 years old

[1-30] New version of Odamex is coming soon
https://twitter.com/Odamex/status/1355592601844523011

[1-30] Mansion got updated to 1.1
https://darsycho.itch.io/mayhem-mansion/devlog/217342/mayhem-mansion-11-at-last

[1-29] JMAA posts demo of 32-map megawad on /doom/
https://jmaa.tv/mindprison-project

[1-28] TrenchBroom 2021.1-RC2 released
https://github.com/TrenchBroom/TrenchBroom/releases/tag/v2021.1-RC2

[1-28] Quake SM211 released
https://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=62012

[1-27] Eternity Engine 4.02.00 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/119425-eternity-engine-40200-forseti/

[1-27] MIDI pack for the Master Levels for Doom II has been released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118804-master-levels-for-doom-ii-25th-anniversary-midi-pack/

[1-25]Hellevator Defintive Edition is now on idgames
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/helevtor

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0/edit?usp=sharing

TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST

I like sword. Das a personal weapon.

Also for new OP, community project anons: Is there an official name for the new project (Hard Fast Faggot Maps?) and do you have a link to include with whatever the new project officially is? I just left 500ml there with updated links.

>>7375313
500ml should be in the newspost for at least three weeks. It's been a long wait.

>>7375298
I still don't get it. Why is "Doom Zero" called that?

>YOUR SOUL, IT IS SMALLER THAN DUST
>YOUR SOUL, IT IS SMALLER THAN DUST
>IT MIGHT BLOW AWAY, OR GET LOST IN THE RAIN
>YOUR SOUL, IT IS SMALLER THAN DUST

You all go fuck yourselves

>>7375308
>DA SHURIKEN... ISA MY FAVORITE THING. I LOVE DA SHURKEN! I ALWAYS LIKE TO GO TO DA MOVIE WITH A POCKET FULL O'DEM, HIT PEOPLE WHO CRUNCH POPCORN TOO LOUD. I THROW DA SHURKEN IN DA DARK, *WFFRRSST*, AND WHERE IT LANDS? NOBODY KNOWS... HAHA!
"AAAGGHH!"
>THERE, ONE LANDED.
-Lo Wang interview with Lee Jackson at 3D Realms, 1997
http://legacy.3drealms.com/sounds/likshk04.wav

>>7375315
I agree, just wanted to make sure with the mapper anons. It definitely deserves to shine in the spot for a while now that it's done

>>7375338

>>7375334
>a kickass and random Doom wad helps you find your new favorite music
I'm seriously hooked to their first four albums

>>7367417
>>7369309
>>7375313
AH FUCK
Sorry /vr/os. It might not have been me who you were talking about, but I was proposing a /vr/ wad many threads ago. Anyway I was onboarding my new job this week, even though technically I don't start until next monday. I will still pay attention to this and may contribute. Hard Faggot Maps sounds fucking cool. I look forward to it taking off. Best of luck.

>>7375397
There was an anon who was taking votes for which textures to use for a Boom compatible pack. Probably not you.

>>7375308
Honestly most satisfying weapon to use in a Build Engine game for me

>>7375397
someone was making a monster pack with glorious things like valiant pyro knight and magnolia mini-cyber

i think these could make for an awesome /vr/ project

100/10 mappack

>>7375560
why did you post SpaceX launch test?

>>7375563
science

Are there more maps coming for 500ml? I gotta be honest, for five months, I was expecting a lot more than six maps.

>>7375695
should have contributed to the project yourself

>>7375701
Not my fault you guys evidently suck.

>>7375695
and two of the maps are made by the creator lol

What's your opinion on respawning ammo in Quake? A lot of maps I played lately had it.
First time it was cool, but later it seemed lazy.

>>7375368
what music?

>>7375407
Some of the people that made maps for 2048 units have been doing a Boom project for a while on Doomworld called Temporal Tantrum.

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/117972-nanowadmo-temporal-tantrum-wip-october-demo/

PM Washing Machine Enthusiasts there about it if you want to join.

What port should I use for Quake, vkQuake or Quakespasm-spiked? Or something different

>really want to make a map
>have no inspiration at all
>end up restarting maps over and over
any tips on how to get over mapper's block?

>>7375742
go on google maps or equivalent
look at unusual plot of land, preferably in completely different country/continent
draw some sectors inspired by that
stick with project, grinding it out builds discipline

>>7375695
Try using that fucking editor and see how productive you are. Shit is cursed.

>>7375757
Was going to say something similar, the world is your inspo.

>>7375720
I dont like it, on principle. It removes the need for the author to place ammo in a meaningful way that is balanced for their encounters. I guess its okay if its part of an arena fight where monsters also spawn in. But even in that case it would be more creative to open up new areas that contain ammo.

>>7375695
Better to have curated maps than a ton of low quality stuff like the quake /vr/ maps.

>>7375742
When you play maps and other games that aren't quake or fps take screenshots of shit that you think looks cool. Also save pictures of you come across online of location and things that you think are interesting.

>>7375757
>>7375786
>>7375812
Thanks, anons. I think my biggest problem is simply not sticking with a map and completing it, like the first one said. desu that's my biggest problem when it comes to creative stuff in general

Where the fuck is that Rise of the Triad remaster

>>7375975
came out in 2013

>>7376013
>remaster

>>7375738
QuakeSpasm-Spiked.

Just played Museum of blue from Blue monday jam.
Holy fuck. Why the fuck did anyone include this. It's so awkward and lame and just shit.

>>7375328
Probably to sound cool. Why would you overanalyze that?

>>7375313
Can't we just call it Hard Fast Faggot Maps?

I cannot get the ini to show for 500 ml of blood in nblood. The instructions don't work.

>>7375726
Band is Those Poor Bastards.

>>7376075
>Why the fuck did anyone include this.
Because the author is a very special boy...
https://twitter.com/oliverblueberry

>>7376158
wtf

>>7375738
Either or is fine. Use vkQuake 1.05.1 if you decide to go with that.

>>7375738
>Or something different
If you want to do co-op without the ancient netcode complicating things, or you want to hop into deathmatch without needing a separate client, then FTE might be ideal. Lots of shit to customize too.

Just finished Redneck Rampage. Some thoughts
Some weird balance decisions. A dog takes like 5 shotgun shots to kill, yet it can hit you for 20 damage and sometimes even bugs and hits you while you're not in his range. Vixens are one of the hardest build engine enemies, yet IIRC in their introduction mission(Downtown Hickston) there are like ten of them. For the next few missions you don't see them at all and in the ones you see them there are only a few of them. Why?

Some really good levels, probably the most advanced Build Engine levels. They are long too, I thought Dark Woods from Shadow Warrior was long. Most levels in this game took me about 40 minutes. I liked Junkyard, Nuthouse and Grimley's Mortuary the most off the top of my head. Some really obscure key hunting that is harder than finding secrets in other games though

Weapons and how they feel are undeniably worse than other Build games. Like this game's TNT can't even compare to Blood's. Enemies feel worse too and Leonard and Bubba can't compare to other protags either. But really good music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRvRed0YauI

I had fun with it but in general I'd recommend this game only if you're specifically a huge Build Engine fan and want more

>>7376109
Sure, I wasn't questioning the choice of title, I was just asking if that is the official title for the new project.

>>7376176
The sequel is much better with level design, the addon (Sucking Grits on Route 66 or something like that) is also nice - many enemies and simpler layout. If someone wants to try Redneck Rampage, I'd suggest trying the sequel, then addon if you want more, and finally, if you want more Build shooting, the first one with skipping shit levels

>>7376114
copy .ini to the main game folder and everything else in sepate folder in the game directory, then choose .ini and this folder in launch setings

>>7375737
>trannyworld
No thanks

>>7376246
I don't think RR has bad enough levels you'd skip them completely. The level I disliked the most was the first one because it was way too open and with key hunting it wasn't really fun at all
I hear people dislike its Sewer level but that wasn't too bad for me. I didn't bother killing anyone or looking for secrets, just run looking for switches and it took me about 10 minutes to finish it IIRC, which is way faster than other levels

>>7376176
I just can't stand RR, never have been able to. The "I shit my pants y'all I sharted lol I fuck my sister" thing is lame and overdone but that's not a deal breaker, I could overlook that. It's the art style. I cannot stand that goofy lanky stylized design for all the characters. Just looks shit desu.

>>7376176
I remember how revolutionary every new build engine game was to me when I was a kid.
Redneck Rampage in particular has great humor, silly level design and... AIRBOATS.
I don't remember any other Build games featuring actual working transport tbqh.

>>7376271
>goofy lanky stylized design
Anon, that's what rednecks, transphobes and drumpf voters actually look like. We call them "chuds" for a reason.

>>7376272
>featuring actual working transport tbqh.
WHATA BOUTA DA SHADOW WARRIOR?

>>7376272
>I don't remember any other Build games featuring actual working transport
Shadow Warrior, no?

>>7376280
Bait

>>7375298
Why is it that prboom+ use so much cpu compared to say crispy-doom or even gzdoom? while running prboom+ (with no mods) the cpu cooler of the notebook starts spinning so loud, but dont happen even with gzdoom complex maps

>>7376271
I agree with art style. It feels like comparison with early shitty 3d games vs good stylized 2d games. RR being the former one in this example and other Build games being latter

>>7376283
SW also has a vacuum you can use to clear corpses in either Water Torture or Floating Fortress lel, can't remember which

>>7376259
Using their messaging system doesn't make it their project. Have a non-dw link then:
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/1905/temporal-tantrum-wip-october-demo

>>7376287
>being a decent human being is "bait"
/pol/ was a mistake.

>>7376289
>prboom+

>>7375298
I don't get it.

>>7376297
>Plays the same fucking map hundreds of times
Got me

>>7376294
Don't reply to him

>>7376283
>>7376286
>>7376293
Ok, I definitely have to replay it.

>>7376297

>>7376323
You probably don't remember it because in SW you don't use them for long range transportation. They are mainly useful for their weapons and finding a secret. Only one where they are vital is Hara Kiri harbor where you use one to reach a key

>>7376271
The style and redneck setting reminded me russian villages/small town outskirts with bydlo gopniks and their gopnik behavior. I just turned up russian boomer pop songs from 90s and 00s and got instant flashbacks from childhood. Was immersed as fuck.

>>7376342
>>7376323
I love that tank segment in m4, when you repair it and then shittons of evil ninjas appear for you to massacre. Here it is in 3rd person view

>>7376376
Yeah I think that is from the Dark Woods level. Imo that level is one of Build Engine's best too

>>7376371
Haha that's pretty funny. Good ol' Slavs

>>7376312
Why?

>>7376376
"Oh, must be American made."

>>7376376
>Shadow Warrior allows you to drive tank around and blow up baddies with it
>Ion Fury you just press a button once and it drives through the closed gate and stops

>>7376380
That's the last level of the shareware right? I fucking love that level, had a kino as fuck moment at that waterfall area with all the rippers in the cave, I got to the top, saw a herd of Rippers coming at me, jumped back down and shot a nuke in there

>>7376294
Doomer Peepeepoomer boards? What is wrong with here or IRC?

>>7376393
He fears the Samurai

>>7376376
How did they do that anyway? Is the tank level geometry?

>>7376398
Vehicles have the opportunity to be great or incredibly wonky. The SW vehicles are obviously sector constructs, thus bound to a single large sector. Unless in some special cases or if you fuck up hard, these make you practically invincible while driving them.
The RR vehicles are sprites/entities and you basically become the vehicle. You may go anywhere, but due to how RR handles things you're a sitting duck to hitscanners in a vehicle and often it's better to not ride one.

>>7376425
Yes. It's a sector construct surrounded by an outer bounding sector and two bounding sprites, defining what's part of the vehicle.

>>7376426
>The RR vehicles are sprites/entities and you basically become the vehicle.
This seems like the ideal way to do it as opposed to the using the limited method they did in SW. I wonder why they also didn't do them in the same way as RR would go on to?

>>7376443
SW was FAR longer in development than RR. Also started earlier. Vehicles were probably not that important.

RRs vehicles are borderline useless on higher skills. Riding them and going fast(what they do pretty well) is a death sentence.

>>7376429
I was just going to say the same thing

>>7376482
Where are the vehicles in RR anyway? In the expansion and sequel? I don't remember one in main game but it's possible I just didn't see it

>>7376494
I think the expansion has the motorcycle (in some sort of canyon map) and the sequel has that airboat. Not sure.

>try eternal's mp out
>actually kind of fun
are there any good .wads where you are the demons, it's a fun concept

>>7376504
PS: it obviously was Redneck Rampage Rides Again

>>7376408
>here
Didn't want to take attention from 500 ml of /vr/
>IRC
Both need to be online at the same time

>>7376507
There's that one mod where you play as a baron but I forget the name. It's pretty cool you got custom weapons and spells to use.

>>7376524
sounds sick, if anyone remembers I'd love to try it

>>7375343
>http://legacy.3drealms.com/sounds/likshk04.wav
Holy kek. I'm convinced I have to play SW now.
>>7375742
For me, I just focus on the gameplay first. I get an idea in my mind like "I want this map to be a UAC lava base" or something like that. Then I design all of the geometry and gameplay first, and I don't even care about textures until the end. My whole level is plastered in one floor texture and one wall texture until the very end. In staying with my idea, I'll put lava textures down where I know there will be lava, and door textures for doors, but that's it. I also try to do only minimal detail sectors until the very end, as well. By minimizing the aesthetic qualities of the map, it helps to minimize the amount of inspiration needed to actually design the map. Then I'll go through and design the encounters, assign linedef specials, etc... (although I do some of this stuff through out the process in general).

At that point, you pretty much have a finished map, and all the hard stuff is out of the way. Then you can go through and do all the texturing and detail sectors. By putting off texturing until the end, you can get the hard stuff done quicker without the time-consuming easy stuff getting in the way.

Another tip: If you get bored, just stop. Wait a bit, then come back to the map. Don't keep restarting. Persevere through it. When you're starting out, actually finishing a map is much more important than making a map that you think is good. Make sure to keep the scope small for the first few maps, as well.

>>7375737
yikes

>>7376525
I have Hearts of Demons - BARON, which might be what he's talking about. You're absurdly OP in it though

>>7376536
yeah that's it

>>7376536
>>7376538
thanks m8s, open to any more suggestions if someone thinks of any

>>7376514
Dude, you just idle in the IRC channel and stay connected when you're not at the computer. It'll notify you when you get a PM or something, otherwise everyone stays in the channel and idles when not on working, that is literally how wad projects were done for years, Romero himself used to get on IRC and talk to the modders

>>7375313
>Is there an official name for the new project
yes, Hard Fast Faggot Maps

>>7376579
Cool. Still too early to replace it in news post though? I figure 500ml should stay for a bit so everyone gets to play it before its changed

>>7376551
>Romero himself used to get on IRC and talk to the modders
Way too much and to a detriment to his work according to Carmack

>>7376524
>>7376525
Doom: Rampage Edition, great wad.

>>7376584
>ywn get to hang out all day on IRC with John Romero circa 1995 talking about the newest episode of Mad TV or Mr. Show, deathmatching and drinking his knob
Why live?

>>7375695
That's just the way it goes sometimes, there was a lot of lost / unfinished maps unfortunately. You can check the "development screenshots" folder if your interested.

>>7376252
Thanks for helping him out, I really need to change those instructions.

>set prboom on 3ds up to use the analog stick to walk, left bumper button to shoot and the touchscreen to aim

holy shit, i didnt expect it to work so well, probably the comfiest way to play doom that isn't keyboard + mouse, the nipple button works surprisingly well for games like quake too

>>7376586

>>7376679
Would be nice if you could bind weapons to the d-pad like in the console ports.

>>7376295
>insulting people that disagree with you makes you "a decent human being"
fuck this gay earth. nuke everything. no survivors.

>>7376691
Chuds aren't people, though. Neither are you, if you use the word "gay" as insult.

>>7376697
>>7376691
Put a sock in it you little snots, before a CLOBBER ya!

>>7376708
Trump lost.

So now that the Viscerafest demo has been freed from its Discord prison, what's the consensus on it here?

>>7376697
Yeah well what if I'm a gay chud??? Then what are you gonna do, libtard???

>>7376715
Pandering attempt at a "Boomur Shootur" made by a zoomie

>>7376724
Still a cis male.

>>7376715
I tried Graven, it runs at 50 FPS at low settings (of which there aren't many).

>>7376729
Surprise! I'm trans, too! Of course I didn't think my gender identity mattered, but your calling me -a gay trans man folk- a cis male just goes to show you're still stuck in your profoundly problematic biases and bigotry. How does it feel knowing you'll be paying reparations to the trans gay chud in the future?

>>7376740
Well you've evidently inherited privilege so I don't feel too bad about calling you out over your toxic behaviour.

I unironically like ProDoomer and I just heard about v3. I'm excited to play it.

>>7376283
>>7376286
Shadow Warrior's vehicles look awesome but are limited by being constructed out of sectors. You're basically stuck to the same flat base it's built on. The sprite based vehicles like in RR or that bike from the Duke Forever TC are janky but give a lot more freedom for level design.

>>7376835
>making faggot duke death sounds

>>7376773
*Freedom to be fucked up at any point of the map because RRs vehicles are usless unless you need to jump a gap or something.

How do we fix the zoomer problem and their bad opinions on retro fps?

TNT Revilution seems really fun so far. Holy shit that sky.

>>7376856
By leaving the board and joining another forum of people who pretend to be experts of a game genre you discovered after 2016

>>7376731
this didn't happen to me, said that, the game runs on ue4

>>7376731
>>7376891
well, probably knowing ue4, it will run at 50 fps on high settings too

>>7376835
ultimate doom wad where you start on e4m8 when

>>7375298
>>7375303
So, here is the deal, IEU bugged out and i can't use it for now, but i managed to do Oblivion's Wal textures into faithful 2x
https://mega.nz/file/MQMADBbJ#Rqnj02hFjwSmyv4UUaRqwu55fqs2eRH3f9iTDhKG1Ck
Just paste it into oblivion's folder

also no guns for now or skyboxes

>>7376835
Uh-oh

>>7376835
>enough modern gimmick
>bullshit difficulty experience
>graf wrong

>>7376894
You can gut UE4's low settings to actually be low by forcing the mobile renderer on other plats.

>>7376835

>>7377064
It's a sign indeed. Use BuildGDX.

>>7377050
Even the AI knows this subconsciously

>>7377015

>>7376297
i dont get it... what is the problem with prboom+? is the best source port as i can see... plays lots and lots of vanilla and boom format maps, is faster than gzdoom for some big maps that gzdoom cannot run on my pc... so whats the problem with it? i only dont know why it uses so much cpu

>voice-over
Based or Cringe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y25DnoP9YZM

>>7377158
Based in a cringy over the top 90s way

>when the "G" falls off of "Graveyard"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=013V6sNeDu8

>>7377168
thats one duked space marine

>>7375803
Can't tell you how disappointed I was with HUH aside from Way Down which was a great map, worth downloading for that alone.

>>7376176
>A dog takes like 5 shotgun shots to kill,
This is a very common mistake. The dogs' health actually isnt that high. But the shotguns spread is so big, unless youre in point-blank range many pellets will miss the dog's small hitbox. The machine gun makes much quicker work of them.

>>7376176
Leonard and bubba are pretty cool. Better than Shelly.

I dont know Leo just makes me laugh.

>>7376289
I have not experienced that. Do you mean PrBoom+ or GlBoom?

>>7376176
Like other anon already stated, dogs have only 75 HP, making them as durable as pigs but their hitbox is wonky so the rifle works best on them.

>>7376551
The modern equivalent would be Discord.

Reminder that despite all the negative shit thrown at Chasm the Rift at least the final boss actually did put up a fight - ulness you brought a MegaDestroyer with yourself that is...
>Also dat mob disbemberment system (and headshot-able Zombies)

>>7375737
Looks cool.

To that anon posting that Unreal 227 patch from last thread: Cheers!
>>7376715
I liked it, maybe a bit more than I expected. Desperately needs some voice volume settings, the main character turned me off from it initially.

>>7377098
>tfw pooping in public bathroom alone and someone comes in.

No one is arguing right now. Let's fix that.
*ahem*
>ALF
>MARISA KIRASAME
>TRIPCODES
>ARCANE DIMENSIONS
>DOOM WORLD
>ZDF
>SHELLY

>>7377356
What about aim assisting in build games?

>>7375631
>Caleb trembling slightly at what he just witnessed.

>>7376289
use etyrinity engine PROBABLY

>>7377358
I'll have to add that to the list next time I want to stir something up in a nice peaceful thread, along with freelook and crouching in Doom.

>>7377358
ONLY acceptable when fighting hornets in Shadow Warrior

>>7377283
Why? Chasm was cool. Some excellent texturing work in this one. Only problem it has is that the maps let you hardly maneuver around in encounters.

replacement of icon of sin in gmota when?

>>7376920
>Upscaler-sama is actualy doing a retexture pack for Oblivion, the absolute madman...

BTW heres something I didnt really understood all those years - when you run this mod in software rendering mode, the new flying monster with plasma (Kirgax) looks like a 'big lump of coal with hands' while in the OpenGL renderer they do look like they should proper - is this a issue with the colormap.pcx interpreting the grays wrongly or its something else going on?

>>7377373
What about these dudes? They can die in four shotgun blasts and I'd genuinely like to see someone track all those without throwing in the 'explosive' towel.

>>7377429
pray n spray

>>7376101
Mod creator made it seem like there was some super secret meaning behind it.

>>7377356
>ZDF
Was ist loß.png?

>>7377429
Not using explosives is a self imposed challenge there because SW definitely gives you enough explosives to deal with them
Otherwise you can still easily kill them with uzi, you just have to pay attention to your range so you can react to their guardian head attack

>>7377424
try to open the model on QME

>>7377457
Aren't explosives harder to use with aim assist on? It's not like the game automatically lead your shots, it just flies to their current position.

>>7377424
Also the meaty fucker has no painskin included - something that is pretty much fundamental to Q2 design aesthetics - the only other instance of such kind of oversight AFAIK is the FixBot monster from the 1st mission pack (understandable since its just a flying toaster with a welder beam), I know that the first release was rushed and buggy, but couldnt they patch that afterwards?

>>7376289
That's the GPU. You need to limit your frame rate or it'll render hundreds of infused frames per second

>>7377472
Are they? I never used auto aim in SW, Idk how it actually works. I'm saying you don't need it to finish the game because I finished on hardest without it
I guess it's kinda acceptable on hornets but fists still(though rather poorly) work on them

>>7376835

>>7377508
NEVAH

>>7377498
>Are they?
Yeah. I would almost argue it almost makes the game more difficult with it's emphasis on explosive weapons - keyword "almost".
What I would rather argue is that it feels more like a preference regarding Shadow Warrior: Aim assist off if you prefer killing things with explosives, aim assist on if you prefer killing things with hitscan.

>>7377508
you just wait

>>7377196
Only good thing about that game.

>>7375738
MarkV WinQuake if you're just playing the base game and its expansions

>>7377537
>blizz killed overwatch by being more focused on nannying and having shit balance
>lawbreakers
>thq nordic makes battleborn 2, which is a smash it
if this happens we truly live in the strangest timeline

>>7377492
The repair bot in Xatrix has no PAIN skin
mostly because the model doesn't use it

>>7377374
Most commonly repeated offences are:
>Its literally a Quake clone/ripoff (fair enough to a point - especially the end boss, rest is genuine tho)
>2D maps in 1997 lel (try to say that about Doom64)
>Boss fights are gimmicky (at least theres actually more than 1 of them - unlike in Quake)
>Theres no MP levels in vanilla release (only legit one of the bunch)
One could have done much worse than this honestly, at least the same devs later ended up making STALKER and Metro 2033

>>7376715
It's meh. It feels more like a FPS Hotline Miami than a boomer shooter. Bite sized levels is a good idea, but having secrets ruins the pacing.
Music bangs tho.
>>7377158
It's so cheesy, I love it.

>>7377550
It doesnt really needed one since the Repair Bots are a wholly mechanical entity and IIRC they dont even bleed like the Turrets (could have use one for consistency sake though - 175hp is on par with Gunners/Maidens)...

Random useless fact - only the Gekk monster from The Reckoning utilizes a seperate skin for its corpses thats different slightly from its regular pain skins (barely noticable ingame)

>>7377492
Forgot to reformat the PCX image first (-_-);

>>7377603
re save it again as pcx using Q2 colormap, also make a TGA extra so the sourceport can use it

>>7377594
>FPS Hotline Miami
That's kind of what I liked about it. It's also an angle not too dissimilar from what you can run into with some of the build games.

Is Grezzo 2 worth playing if I'm not italian? From an outside perspective it seems that it's full of pop-culture jokes that only an italian would understand.

Is it just a gigantic shitpost or is there anything of value in there? And why was it banned from Twitch?

>>7377617
>Is it just a gigantic shitpost
Yes
>And why was it banned from Twitch?
Grezzo 2 made enough of a buzz for Twitch to ban it, it's the same reason why shit like RapeLay is listed as a banned game despite the fact that all Illusion games wouldn't be allowed to be streamed.

>>7377617
>>7377635
Best part is that they banned both Grezzo 1 and Grezzo 2, even though former doesn't even exists.

>>7377465
Actually looks okay in-app (same with MD2viewer). It only looks weird like this when playing the game in software mode for some reason - as a kid I just though they supposed to like this since OGL made my old PC choke and was a bit too dark on a CRT monitor unless at night...

>>7377642
Grezzo 1 exists, it just wasn't released to the public. It apparently only remained in the dude's school computers because it had too many inside jokes that only his friends would get, so he decided against releasing it.

>>7377608
Would i need to edit the skins color palette depth or just use Gimp to change the format again?

>>7377646
Pretty fuckin redarted T B H - its almost like banning anyone who would dare to stream the UAClabs.wad but even dumber for no real reason

>>7377659
sometimes is simply to fix the damn palette if it has some issues, but QME export works well with it with no issues.

We really need an ISO standard for hurt floors, and we need it to be enforced HARD. It's a fucking mess, especially when it comes to brown sludge and blood. Quake is also pretty bad in this regard, it can't decide whether bluish water is hurting or not.

>>7377726
And what happens if someone breaks the standard, does the Doom Police go after them and arrest them for Doom Crimes?

>>7377726
>Water
Shouldn't hurt
>Sludge
Shouldn't hurt
>Blood
Shouldn't hurt (the AIDS in the blood kills Doomguy after he's done the level though)
>Nukage
Should hurt
>Lava
Should hurt
If a level designer doesn't want to follow this, they can at least make their own .wad consistent in what textures hurt Doomguy, or at least warn that there's a hurt floor by using some careful textures or placing Radiation Suits around to indicate that there's a hurt floor.
>>7377747
Yes.

>>7377674
Fuck me its even worse now :'(

>>7377762
You forgot the rarest and most elusive of all hurt floors - blue circles on metal background.

>>7377762
What if it's boiling water
What if it's toxic sludge
What if it's scalding hot demon blood

>>7377765
It's probably Doomguy getting electrocuted.

>>7377765
>spoiler
Thank you, I couldn't remember what it was; I knew it was 'blue' though, almost that it was that blue carpet texture.

>>7377763
You need to open it on Irfanview and import the palette, save as pcx, then open it again to check if Q2 palette is there in edit palette, then save again as pcx.

same shit as Q1 and its colormap palette dependency

>>7377440
ZDoom Forums

>>7377772
the pebbles are sharp and hurt doomguys feet

>>7377615
I see what you mean, it's just VF is a bit more clunky then your average Build game (especially the melee).

>>7377762
I agree with all but the rare blood. If it's just a random pool of blood in an otherwise normal map then it's kinda annoying.

>>7377726
I base it off my level's context. In hell blood usually hurts. Sludge can hurt if it's close enough to nukage to seep in, but hurts less.

>>7377827
I'm digging it, but then again I also enjoyed The Citadel - so I'm either real tolerant/adaptable to nonsense, or I just have bad taste.
I will say: I don't like having to hold the mouse button down for the "super attack".

>>7377635
>rapelay STILL booty blasting gaijin to this day
jesus fuck man, why won't they just get over it, there's much MUCH worse in h-games

>>7377762
>>Blood
>Shouldn't hurt (the AIDS in the blood kills Doomguy after he's done the level though)
What if it's a corrosive hellblood?

>>7377853
rapelay has been in all never play, evil games list along with manhunt for over a decade now

>>7377859
Which just shows how clueless they are.

>>7377859
>>7377853
Please enlighten me on what's worse, y'know, for research.

>>7377824
I want a mod where there's a chance you'll stub your toe when bumping into walls and corners. It would deal a ton of damage and slow your movement speed down tremendously until doomguy gets over it.

>>7375407
Ah okay, looks like that wasn't myself. Well I'm watching the Hard Fast Maps /whatever project for when that picks up steam. Cool beans.

Slade editor question. Lets say I have lines AB and BC. Is there a way to delete vertex B and make A connected to C?

>>7377916
Just drag B to C? Seems like it would work (I don't use SLADE, but I tried doing it and it seems it worked)

>>7377926
Thank you, this works, only with grid snapping turned on. Not a big deal to turn it on and off if I need.

>>7375803
>>7377204
I don't get why some people expected HUH to be some kind of grand masterpiece, it was a newbie mapjam, I thought it was obvious in conversations that most had never touched an editor for Quake in their lives. There were some stinkers, sure, but there was some alright ones too, and even a couple of pretty good ones.

For a ragtag bunch of fags, I think the end result was passable.

sludgy boi

>>7376109
I guess what we could do, is that after we've finished it (and you motherfuckers better check for softlocks and that all keys are tagged this time), we'll make a separate release renamed like, I don't know, HARD FAST FRIENDLY MAPS or something like that, so it can be published more widely.
Meanwhile, trve /doom/ers enjoy the correct version.

>>7378037
Hard Fast Friendly Maps as the safer title sounds fine. Just keep the "censored" title image that was posted a while ago.

>>7378050
Actually it would be funny if it plain was something like an obvious sticker covering up FAGGOT, not that you can see it, but you could tell FRIENDLY is out of place and plastered on later.

>>7378081
Some artistic anons came up with this in the last thread. Though you can clearly see it's the word "faggot" that doomguy's face is covering up. The sticker idea sounds good as well.

so what is the status of Hard Fast Faggot Maps?
right now what we got is:
>boom compat
>custom textures anon is dead
>maps are obviously meant to be hard and fast

>>7377998
tell me more about him

>>7378097
I can't quite picture what a faggot map would be like, so I would suggest drawing inspiration from the word cloud and use pieces of the world cloud as CWILV art.

*makes both one of the worst and best ports in the 90's
How did they do it?

>>7378126
thats an interesting idea to use a cloud map, honestly I just thought about looking in the mirror for inspiration

>>7378094
Update on that graphic, if you put it in a wad make sure to give it a horizontal offset of 58 and it will show up fine in PrBoom and GZDoom. Relieved I don't have to redraw it because at the original 125*60 that shit is impossible to read.

>>7378126
like big piss base? a (non-mandatory) gimmick of using the word cloud sounds fun

>>7378097
Balance it around UV fast exclusively.

>>7378097
All levels could be hot starts or almost hot starts (basically very very little room or time to explore the starting area).

Regarding the next /vr/ set

-Boom 10
-UDMF 2

-NMN Corporation 6 (2 for each part the rest unspecified)
-Biolage 3
-Ogro 3 (with my vote)
-Q3A 2
-Q2 2
-Graphitallica 1
-Aquatex 1
A few other singulars

Other anon said 3 threads to decide and I believe that has happened. I'm looking through NMN now to see what the deal is. Looks like two different sets entirely(?). So that will have to be sorted out.

As far as theme, this thread should be used to figure decide this (maybe 1 more). Over the past while people have mentioned

-Plutonia styled
-Doom 64
-Hideous Destructor with Dues Ex style textures
-One giant map of stitched together maps

that's all I can remember at this point. Another one to throw out there is more realized /realistic areas In light of the 500ml and general build style /comfy/.

HFFM sounds like it could be decent jokey or troll maps but I think that would DOA, a dud and a waste of people's time (maybe a side project or DTR).

>>7378275
desu I believe Plutonia style progression with suggestion from >>7378248 would work great
maybe we could be going for something ala scythe with bite sized maps that are very intense

>>7376715
I dislike the heavy emphasis on melee combat. They limit your ammunition so you use melee, which I don't like. Also the voice lines are too numerous for my taste, other than that it's pretty good.

>>7377896
>>7375407
>>7375313
>>7378097
>>7378275
I died but I'm better now. Won't happen again.

Merged NMN1+2 into a new wad I call NMN3. Will post a small test map with NMN3 included in the .wad so you can pick it up and get straight to it when it's time. I had to add in ANIMATED/SWITCHES lumps but they should be functional, I'm testing in prBoom 2.5.1.4

Figuring the theme out should be voted on now, yeah. I thought it might be worthwhile to perhaps use the prBoom fork with UMAPINFO included to differentiate us a bit more. I'm not sure how many maps are out there that utilize it already, and it might be more of a window dressing to be honest, but that's for us to decide.

>>7378304
>>7378248
These are good ideas.

>>7378319
No gimmicks. Just give us like 2 weeks to make a map with an option to take a name from the word cloud.

>>7378248
I like this idea.

>>7378304
And this. Short, fast, and tough, just like the name suggests.

>>7378319
So, since we're doing Boom format, it has a function for using a custom sky texture on a level:
>linedef function 271 and 272 (flipped horizontally)
>uses whatever upper front texture is defined to the linedef in question
>then applies that as the sky texture in any sector with F_SKY1 and the corresponding tag
>offsets can be used to make it 'spin'
Thus I want to ask, would it be ok for contributors to add an optional sky texture for use in their submitted map? It would have to be a sky texture which is the power of 2 in width and would render appropriately in Boom, thus something that's 256 pixels in width, and it would need to be a paletted image.

This would be a small thing, and I think we wouldn't go beyond that for custom assets, but I think this would help in making levels more distinct.

>>7378336
Hot starts could be optional, but it would be suitable for the theme of fast and hard maps.

>>7378368
What about custom midis for our levels? Because I have a track I'd like to use for my potential submission.

>>7378378
Custom .midis tend to be a given.

>>7378368
Ah yeah, I forgot about that despite having looked it up for a level I made before. I can pop it in there pretty easily no issue once you've decided on one for your map.

>>7378378
Likewise, no issue at all.

>>7378129
SNES Doom is a zoomer filter, the forced saveless runs with no level select (cheating), and lack of circlestrafing (cheating) makes them rage.

>>7378336
two weeks is a bit short, I'd rather see longer time spent on maps to have higher quality in the end, especially since I wageslave and have commitments outside of DooM autism I indulge in every weekend, and I am sure that there are other anons in such situation

>>7378319
>Figuring the theme out should be voted on now, yeah. I thought it might be worthwhile to perhaps use the prBoom fork with UMAPINFO included to differentiate us a bit more.
If we're gonna use that UMAPINFO stuff, we should straight up make it for DSDA, which is a more stable build.

What specifically would we use it for though? Adding a custom text crawl per each level or something? Adding the 666/667 special or the ability for monsters to telefrag players to whichever map you wanted?

>>7378394
Yeah, I would at least want a month. I'm actually pretty busy, but I figure I can make a fast and small map in that time frame.

>>7377781
I give up, even after importing the q2 colormap pallete file and even decreasing colordepth it still looks crap, maybe the chosen body colors simply arent appliable to the colormap, but who cares really (anyone still using software mode render even)?

>>7378393
>SNES doom
that's baby shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHAXu089xW0

can someone tell me how to install the class-based mod for MM8BDM, i'm incompetent and can't find anything

>>7378445
luv me speccy

>>7378394
>>7378405
A month sounds fair, I myself have had a lot of shit on my plate beyond keeping up here.

>>7378401
I'm boning up on
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/coelckers/prboom-plus/master/prboom2/doc/umapinfo.txt
I forgot about the sky transfer linedef which makes the sky defining feature here a bit redundant, but at a glance I'd use
>mapname
>skydef
>music (MUSINFO handles music changer things)
>custom par times
>custom enter/exitpic
>boss actions to allow map progression/features to be tied to specific Things
Though again, we can all decide on this here.

>>7378445
lmao

>>7378469 >>7378405
hey if month is too short we can always extend it, you know like we did before.

>>7378094
What if actually that name simply meant making a map with a pic related in it and one just was dyslectic?

>>7378514
>covering up homophobia behind accusations of ableism...
This kills teh AssJayDubya

>>7378443
Here anon: fixed the model who had a type issue by importing the skin again
https://www66.zippyshare.com/v/gSbdU7Tx/file.html

>>7378530
Twitter is two blocks down.

>>7378558
two blockmaps down*

>>7378309
I like what it's doing more than what the new Dooms tried with ammo management, but I also think the game would still be fun without the melee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib0ASwFrdCw

>>7378802
jesus the phasing of that audio

>>7375695
I was making a map but had to back out way back in October when my hard drive crashed and I lost what I was working on.

So are there two /vr/ projects? I know about HFFM, and that one anon who was taking tallies for a texture pack and map format. Are these projects one in the same, or two separate ones?

>>7375303
>John Romero confirms no new unreleased Doom content due to objections by iD/Bethesda
I'm so glad we got the zombiemen and doomguy rotations before this.

>>7378802
I miss the 90s

/DOOM/ project
Are we seriously making a project that only runs in one source port?
Are we seriously naming it Hard Fast Faggot Maps?
These two issues will make it so that literally nobody outside of this board will ever play it.
Also, veto on balancing for UV fast, I'm not decino, I don't play that way

>>7378923
And wat about that dude that was gonna give out cash prizes for his project he was floating a couple months back? He said he'd begin it in January or after the release of 500ml and we've sailed through those goal posts.

>>7378976
Who's we?

>>7378976
>Are we seriously making a project that only runs in one source port?
It's Boom.
>Are we seriously naming it Hard Fast Faggot Maps?
Do you have an issue with that, faggot?
>These two issues will make it so that literally nobody outside of this board will ever play it.
Who cares.

>>7378991
You're right. No one from /doom/ will be touching this project. It's clear that Cringeworld has finally taken over the board inserting this bullshit.

>>7378976
>These two issues will make it so that literally nobody outside of this board will ever play it
I'm pretty sure only like 2 or 3 people played 500ml because it was drowned by shitposting about trannies in a doom thread
I don't think any /vr/ project can succeed outside of this thread given that the most recent one wasn't even that popular here

>>7379003
>it's pretty clear that the second most oversensitive doom community has taken over this board and decided to make a map pack named "Hard Fast Faggot Maps".

>>7379013
Enjoy your lgbt mapset

>>7379013
He's the same faggot that's been obsessing over stupid shit and derailing the thread.
His next trick will be to reply with that one edit of "it's just one guy stirring up shit" image and probably to tell me to seethe/cope/dilate.

>>7379013
Yeah he's not making a lot of sense

>>7378976
What's the texture pack that won the "vote" in the end?
Also, is there any common theme besides a common texture pack?

>>7378976
>Are we seriously making a project that only runs in one source port?
As stated here>>7378248 people voted on Boom I have no idea why "prboom2" or DSDA is being injected into this. I'm not opposed to the idea but this should have been on the table for voting last week
>Are we seriously naming it Hard Fast Faggot Maps?
>nobody outside of this board will ever play it.
I also pointed this out it would be DOA if it even got finished

Boom+NMN Corporation Is where it's at. This anon >>7378319 generously compiled P1-2 into a single .wad. The priority now should be deciding the theme/direction

A while ago I was going to make a "So you want to play" for Heretic but since I've barely played Heretic mods I never got around to it.
Anyway, I'm going to drop my notes here in case anyone wants to do it and needs a quick starting point. https://pastebin.com/LD781rUs

>>7379049
>it would be DOA if it even got finished
Why do you care? It's a community wad, it's made by people here for people here. You're not making money on this or getting fame from it. It's literally just for fun. If you can't deal with that just map for a different project.

>>7379049
whoops meant >>7378275

>>7378976
>Are we seriously making a project that only runs in one source port?
It'll do it in DSDA, the PrBoom+ fork it's based in, and GzDoom. If we skip the UMAPINFO stuff, we can make it run in older versions of PrBoom+ too, and whatever else can run Boom compat stuff.

>Are we seriously naming it Hard Fast Faggot Maps?
Yeah, it'll be fun. I love faggots, we'll just make a censored version when we're done for people without a sense of humor.

>These two issues will make it so that literally nobody outside of this board will ever play it.
Maybe, but if I had fun making it, and I had fun playing the levels, it's all good to me.

>Also, veto on balancing for UV fast, I'm not decino, I don't play that way
I think just one guy suggested balancing for UV fast.

>>7379023
We will, you joyless faggot.

>>7379076
Rest in peace, Aniki

>>7379049
No serious doomer will play a map set called "faggot maps" because it sounds like a terry/joke wad. Anybody who knows different won't play it simply because it's clearly a "/vr/-culture" mapset. That leaves like 3-4 people outside of the mappers themselves.

>>7379083
I don't see a problem there

>>7379083
A few folks already said they're gonna call it "friendly maps" outside out 4chan to avoid the hurt feelings patrol. If people don't wanna play it, then so be it.

>>7379083
>No serious doomer
Why
Do
You
Care
?
It's a fucking 4chan community project that people are making for fun. I know the joke is that the internet is serious business, but the JOKE is that it's serious business. Stop taking shit so fucking seriously faggot.

>>7379010
There'll be janitor signups in March, if you want to make a change, write a submission.

>>7379083
So just launch a censored version.

>>7375726
wad is preacher.wad

>>7379083
Nobody here hates gay people they just think the word "faggot" is funny
Queer user to be a slur and now it's treated as a positive word
t. guy who wants to fuck Sandalphon from GBF not enough art of that twink i tell ya what
>>7378470
He looks like he's made of stone

>>7379091
People tend to self-depreciate in order to avoid true criticism.

>>7379102
Shut the fuck up faggot.

>>7379049
The guy who looks like he's in charge suggested maybe using the PrBoom+ fork which uses UMAPINFO, then I suggested we might as well use DSDA as a base, because it supports it without any possible issues with demo compat (there was some small stuff which the PrBoom+ fork was struggling with, maybe it was fixed, I don't know).

But just as well we can do it just for regular PrBoom+, we can use whatever music track we submit, and we already floated the idea of using the Sky Transfer special, and to let people attach a custom sky texture for their level. We'd cover most of the bases that way.

Alright, I'm running into trouble trying to combine NMN1/2 together. I'm
>exporting both as png
>importing pngs into NMN3
>converting to doom graphics
>adding to a new TEXTURE1
>changing TEXTURE1 to TEXTURE2
>adding flats
Where it falls apart is;
F_SKY is rendering as a texture from the NMNTEST2.wad (combined texture pack) that has decided to interlope for whatever reason.
In addition, NMN contains a new water flat. However, ANIMATED refuses to allow NWATER8 to cycle through to NWATER1. To get around this I simply removed the entry from the table, however the texture is kinda nice and I'd prefer to not leave it ripped out.

https://anonymousfiles.io/DzSElBYg/ - texture pack
Links here.
https://anonymousfiles.io/mQYwijCk/ - test map

>>7378923
Same one.
>>7379114
I would love assistance here in the lead, this faggot texture pack is giving me a headache.
>>7379076
UMAPINFO is again, somewhat redundant and it's no problem at all to just go without it.

>>7379102
You consider yourself a serious doomer? Do you get a different name with each game?

>>7379101
>Nobody here hates gay people
Speak for your self, Abraham Goldberg.

>>7379131
You don't count, faggot.

>>7379128
Honestly, just copy the contents of one .wad into the other (make sure that flats go together with flats), and then add the new stuff to the existing patch tables and TEXTURES lump.

>>7379128
>ANIMATED
Am I mistaken or isn't this a DSDA focused mapset? Wouldn't having anything animated be z/GZ only?

>>7379151
We're probably just doing regular PrBoom+, since we aren't really doing anything extravagant, the map format lets us do basically all we need it to.

Boom has its own animated lumps I think.

>>7379128
>ANIMATED refuses to allow NWATER8 to cycle through to NWATER1
It seems like every other entry in that table is only 4 textures, but NWATER is 8. It works fine on GZDoom but maybe the issue you're seeing is because glboom+ only supports animations of flats with 4 flat textures?

>>7379151
ANIMATED is a Boom feature.

>>7379163
Well fuck me I'll keep quiet my bad.

>>7379063
>>7379086
>>7379091
Faggot maps are out, end of story

>>7379128
>Same one.
No

>>7379091
>Y U care ROFL
Why do you care if I care? GTFO

>>7379092
>So just launch a censored version.
It has no direction and gives nothing to work off of so it fails even as a basic concept. If people want to make a troll maps, fine, but it should separate from the basic premise established

>>7379161
It shits out the same error with a 4 frame cycle.

>>7379183
Pretty gay. No idea then.

>>7379151
Fucking NEWFAGS. BOOM COMPATIBLE DOESN'T MEAN IT ONLY RUNS IN PRBOOM

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Boom
>A large number of WAD files have been developed which require Boom to run. Because of the attractive editing features provided by Boom, many popular source ports have adopted support for these features. This has led to the term "Boom-compatible engine": such WADs may run on many different source ports provided that the source port used supports the Boom editing extensions.

>>7379182
Oh so you're in charge of this project then, is that it? Boss of this gym? Oh you're not? Oh, damn I guess I don't have to care about your opinion then do I faggot?

>>7379189
Who said that? I had a lapse and was mistaken about something entirely different. Of course boom-compatible would imply compatibility down the source-port pipeline. Calm down zoomie.

>>7379189
I'm a newfag and even I knew that

>>7379182
Lol look at this little baby man barking at others like he's in charge.

>>7379189
>reading comprehension

>>7379182
faggot maps are in, fuck you leatherman

chill out vros
I just want to make a map

>>7379182
I don't know why you're complaining about faggot maps, you should be thrilled that you're being catered to.

>>7379186
Fixed it, issue turned out to be the flat order in the .wad

New issue is patches added replace patches from doom2.wad, but I'm just going to do
>>7379146
this
I have like 4 versions of this damn texture pack made

>>7379182
>pic related

>>7379221
I'm blasting Judas Priest and carving out a map already, I'm having a blast!

>>7379182
how does one make a troll maps?

>>7379232
>flat order in the .wad
Oh shit yeah that makes sense, it's probably just reading all the graphics in sequentially and smashing those bytes into an animation. Good to know.

>tfw playing Blood and listening to Slayer
it's kino

>>7379254
I'll show you.

>>7379258
Sounds almost as good as playing Quake on nightmare while listening to old school death metal.

>>7379257
fucking NEWFAGS

onemandoom updated his blog

>>7379305

>>7379305
Like a week ago, is that what you're referring to?

>>7379305
Holy shit.

>>7375631
>I have to go now. My planet needs me

https://anonymousfiles.io/YzcTAAKM/

I've done it. This should be a functional NMN3 texture pack. I need to not look at a computer for a while now. Reply with issues/slurs/texture requests.

Club Doom is the first joke map.

Reminder that Sandy Petersen's first Doom map was E2M6.

>>7379430
I thought E2M5 was the first pure Sandy map.

>>7379430
It was the best map of Episode 2.

>>7379083
go back

>>7379438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9oG2LBuMwY

>>7379449
You go.

>>7379462
it's incredibly difficult to make a satellite dish with .bsp

This is the route I have memorized in that map. The key to the north first, then red key, then mega armor, then blue key, then exit. I get lost if pinkies or barons force me out of my route

>>7379423
Thanks anon!

>>7379460
Meanwhile consolefags

Be honest, did you fall for the fake exit?

>>7379530
Yes, almost every time

Noob question, how do I properly load a texture set in something like Gzdoombuilder? Should I even be using Gzdoombuilder? You can still map strictly for Boom format in it.

>>7375298
To you seasoned FPS players, did Clinker's Cavern in Banjo Tooie give you any trouble?

>>7379530
I've played through Ultimate Doom a bunch of times and I still do.

>>7379545
Add it as a resource when creating a map.
Latter question; yes, it's fine.

Who else did fake exits? I think the gimmick was only cool when Sandy did it. I remember a fake exit in Hell Revealed 2 IIRC and it was pretty gay. Chaingunners and shotgunners, instead of shotgunners and cacos like how Sandy did it.

>>7379182
What if we made it literally gay? Give Doomguy a handlebar mo and leather cap, make all the music high energy disco or Judas Priest, lots of strobe light effects etc.
Hard Gay: the map pack

>>7379545
Ultimate Doom builder is the updated version of Gzdoombuilder. You can press F2 at any time to add resources as well

>>7379552
Make him also black and you've got yourself a Cacoward.

>>7379556
I'm getting these errors when trying to load the wad anon made here >>7379423

>>7379564
You're on to something. Reminder that in PC culture you can say faggot if you're gay

>>7379567
Are you loading Doom2.wad as well?

>>7379567
Did you also load an iwad? Use Doom2

>>7379573
>>7379571
Why the fuck should I do that? It's a doom builder.

>>7379571
>>7379573
fuck

>>7379578
IIRC you can go to preferences and add D2 as resource it should default load every time you want to edit. Other wise I think you have to manually load it every time you open something new

>>7379567
>Did you forget to configure an iwad for this game configuration?
>Forgot to include required resources?
>Forgot to include required resources?
>Forgot to include required resources?
>etc
Anon, I don't know what's wrong.

>>7379423
A pitch black flat and a pitch black 128x128 wall texture.
The PSX/N64 burning sky (I know someone who can provide the properly 64 pixel wide set of frames, so that they'll render correctly).
And add this as a texture.

>>7379530
First time around, I though it was a secret exit, because I remembered the other exit. Now, I go to it for fun.

>>7379552
If we cannot secure an Aniki HUDface, I would be ok with someone putting a big handlebar moustache on Doomguy.

>>7379647
I might give it a shot, this is a dfifferent PLAYPAL yes?

Lads I'm experimenting with making Doom textures and I need feedback. Which looks better, the left or the right ones? The ones on top are unpaletted, and the ones on the bottom are using the Doom palette. I personally think the left looks better, but other opinions would be nice.

>>7379651
What, for the project? I think we're using the stock one. Anyway, if you can also add the leather hat to go with it, that would be perfect.

>>7379659
Left by far.

>>7379663
I'll give it a go, but I encourage anybody else to give it a shot as well, I won't throw a fit.

>>7379659
The left one

>>7379668
>>7379681
Thanks lads, that's what I thought.

>>7379221
me
>>7379247
good stuff, gonna hit some Mothership later
>>7379423
Cool beans

So the wad... it's Hot Starts and limited options... kinda like Plutonia MAP07 (Caughtyard)? Anything else?

>>7379659
Those rounded rectangles in the middle, those are suppoosed to be beveled/bumps right? Watch your shading, light for doom textures adheres to a top/left style, so.. light is always coming from the top left against whatever surface the texture is on. You may want to make those a bit more distinct because as is, it looks like a flat image. Same with the bottom trim, top one looks fine but the bottom one doesn't share the same shading.
What software are you using?

>>7379693
>Those rounded rectangles in the middle, those are suppoosed to be beveled/bumps right? Watch your shading, light for doom textures adheres to a top/left style, so.. light is always coming from the top left against whatever surface the texture is on. You may want to make those a bit more distinct because as is, it looks like a flat image. Same with the bottom trim, top one looks fine but the bottom one doesn't share the same shading.
This is great feedback. I'll make sure to implement this in my next attempt at it. Thanks, anon.
>What software are you using?
I'm made a model and textured it in Blender and rendered it orthographically. I used GIMP to reduce it 512x512 to 128x128, and the brought it into Slade to paletteize it (though I want to see what GIMP can do. It has the ability to dither, which might produce some cool results).

Ok, so this would be a tall order, but I'm just putting the idea out there for anyone who's willing to give it a try: assless chaps on the Cyberdemon

>>7379723
>I'm made a model and textured it in Blender and rendered it orthographically. I used GIMP to reduce it 512x512 to 128x128, and the brought it into Slade to paletteize it (though I want to see what GIMP can do. It has the ability to dither, which might produce some cool results).
*I'm made a model and textured it in Blender and rendered it orthographically. I used GIMP to reduce it 512x512 to 128x128, and the brought it into Slade to paletteize it (though I want to see what GIMP can do. It has the ability to dither, which might produce some cool results).
*I'm made a model and textured it in Blender and rendered it orthographically. I used GIMP to reduce it 512x512 to 128x128, and the brought it into Slade to paletteize it (though I want to see what GIMP can do. It has the ability to dither, which might produce some cool results).
*I made a model and textured it in Blender and rendered it orthographically. I used GIMP to reduce it from 512x512 to 128x128, and then brought it into Slade to paletteize it (though I want to see what GIMP can do. It has the ability to dither, which might produce some cool results).
Believe it or not, English is my native language. I think I might just be retarded.

>>7379735
What is happening to my posts? Okay. That's enough 4Chan for today. This is what I mean to say; final answer:
>*I made a model and textured it in Blender and rendered it orthographically. I used GIMP to reduce it from 512x512 to 128x128, and then brought it into Slade to paletteize it (though I want to see what GIMP can do. It has the ability to dither, which might produce some cool results).
AAAAHHHHHHHH

>>7379740
https://ccorner.duke4.net/door-texture-walkthrough/

>>7379734
Or a SLUT trampstamp.

You can probably guess where I'm going with this. I'll give a hint if you can't figure it out.

The first few levels in Redneck Rampage are a rough fucking start, but they're starting to pay off.

>>7379789
Why do people hate Redneck Rampage anyway? I played a tiny bit of it, and it seemed alight. Not on the same level as Blood, Duke or SW, but alright nonetheless.

>>7379734
understandable, them thick hooved legs are made for it cowpoke

>>7379789
Not the best first impression. The first two levels are some weird key hunts separated by long stretches of land, and the revolver is pretty boring to use. The shotty's fun at least.
I also think it looks real good, especially compared to the other build guys.

Nice, had >>7379840 reply to myself instead of >>7379810

does this looks like a chain link fence?

>>7379182
One of the worst cases of forest for the trees ever.

>>7379951
Looks like a bunch of jacks stitched together, or a bunch of foot traps from Shadow Warrior.

Some ideas for 'censored' titles for wider distribution:
>Hard Gay Community Chest
>Macho Marine Adventure
>Homo Gladiatora
>Intergalactic Spartan
>Where The Sun Doesn't Shine
>Bossbrain Of This Gym
>Astro Wallglide
>Doom Aniki
>Escape From The Closet

>>7380010
Mathtersth of DooOOOooom

>>7380010
>Where The Sun Doesn't Shine
That one. The others are too esoteric.

>>7379951
Looks more like on of those rigid framed fences they'd put around stairwells at my school in 6th grade.

You want a more diagonal pattern.

>>7379982
>>7380023
doing much more with that pixel density is beyond my skills
here is the original

>>7380020
>>7380010
what if the sun does shine in my case?

>>7380035
Get the UV lamp out of your ass

>>7380023
:^)
I'm going to sleep