/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7371891
Wait until spring and pick some up for free by a curb.

>>7371891
>Where the fuck are you people finding CRTs?
Outside. Good luck with that, basement boi.

>>7371891
In my experience its like they are hard to come by when you are actively looking for them. Then one day after you have given up and aren't thinking about it you will come across a Trinitron on the side of the road.

>>7371891
>Facebook Marketplace:
>>only local result is a shitty Phillips flatscreen from 2002 with that hideous silver bezel for $60
Jesus, where you do you live? If I hit up "crt tv" or "tube tv" there'll be hundreds of results (of varying degrees of quality) for less than a half of that price

>>7371891
Don't search for CRT, 99% of craiglist listings just say tv or old tv. You can also check the city dump, they sometimes have stacks of CRT's sitting in the electronics area separate from the actual landfill.

>>7371891
At least a dozen CRTs get dropped off at my store for recycling every week.
Call television stores. See if they take sets for recycling.

>>7371891
>Phillips flatscreen from 2002 with that hideous silver bezel
Those are not that bad, especially if they have component input.

>>7372135
Tempe. College town in a major southwest city, the only 3 types of people who live here are:
-City-dwelling yuppies who moved here for work within the last decade
-College students
-Poor Mexican immigrants
None of them the demographic that's going to have CRTs for sale.
>>7371893
>>7372120
Area I live in is urban enough that I never go through any sort of suburbs or residential areas where I'd find stuff on the curb. I'd have to go out of my way to find a housing development somewhere and check the curbs. Doesn't help that I don't have my car with me and bike everywhere.
>>7372136
Don't think it's anywhere around. There's a household goods dropoff center nearby but it's "closed for covid" so you can't go in and browse.
>>7372184
TV stores still exist? Where would I find them? None show up on Google maps, outside of Best Buy and the like.
>>7372246
They're alright but they're always priced a bit more than I'd like to pay for a TV that's so far from what I'm looking for.

>>7371891
These morons (/vr/ anons) pay top dollar.

>>7372294
>Buy a cheap truck
>go searching for CRTs
>nigger

>>7371891
Go to flea markets. I bought a nice flat 15" flat screen crt with remote in near mint condition for 15 dollars from a man who was selling it, after his mother had passed away. She had barely used it at all and I was happy to pay him instead of some ebay scammer.

>>7371891
If you aren't getting what you want on FB marketplace, it might be time for a road trip. I only say this because I live in a moderate sized city and I can find a load carts for free or cheap.

Are you specifically calling them CRTs with your searches? Most normal people dont use the term CRT.

>>7371891
I found a decent trinitron with component on FB marketplace last year for $20.

I got one of these at Goodwill last week for $3.

it's literal e-waste, they are not rare

Protip: Keep your CRT's brightness/contrast at a reasonable level and you'll double the lifespan of the tube. Many TVs have a default setting where it's at 90% so it looks good on store displays and lots of stupid people never bothered adjusting this.

>>7371891
>he doesn't just search TV on Craigslist and do expanded area search
>lists ebay
Yeah I'm 99% sure all these posts the past few days are from eBay sellers trying to justify their scam

>>7372992
CRTs weren't specifically designed to last 30 years. You're right that lowering contrast will broaden CRT lifespan but no one was actually expected to do this. The brighter screen was even a selling point for Trinitrons.
On another note lowering contrast can also improve geometry on most consumer sets thanks to their shitty PSUs.

I have to say, input lag really isn't an issue with modern flat panels but retro games still never look as good on them as they do on a CRT, even a cheap one like >>7372959.

>>7373030
>CRTs weren't specifically designed to last 30 years
No, but it wasn't an issue when you could easily buy a new one.

>>7373046
Obviously.

Some manufacturers would also purposely make the electron guns on their tubes run hotter to get a brighter picture but this resulted in them not lasting too long.

>search on CL
>heres your tv bro

>>7373046
>>7373030
one will have to wonder about flat panels because they're essentially solid state and don't have any components that can degrade with use like a CRT does.

>>7371891
I found the most CRTs from making a want add on craigslist. However I ended up getting one from a local seller from Facebooks Marketplace. It took weeks to get replies from the craigslist want add. But some of the replies were free TV offers. It just too long to get replies.

>>7373060
Dude, that is a beautiful antique, and the Admiral brand is legendary. A black history museum would unironically buy that for that much easily.

>>7373180
good thing i live in chicago where its all blacks

In theory I suppose you could re-coat the electron guns on a CRT if they get worn down, although I'm sure the emissive coating is made of some nasty stuff that would cause you to grow an extra hand. Fixing worn phosphor would be tough on a color tube (for monochrome it's not difficult and used to be done in the 50s-60s).

>>7373180
Most 50s TVs aren't especially valuable barring rare stuff like metal cone tubes which had completely disappeared by the time Eisenhower was in office.

Found mine free 2 weeks ago on FBM, labeled as "free tube tv" in all lowercase. Asked someone in my family with a facebook account to message them for me asking for details and within the same day I picked it up.

>>7373212
Even if it were in perfect operating condition nobody would care about the tube. That is an iconic mid-century design item inseparable from its place in history as a signal of the class aspirations northern blacks in the second generation after the Great Migration. CRTs with interesting technology like you mention deserve a place in museums, but this one belongs in a completely different type of museum.
Actually, the whole picture is kino. The plastic covered chesterfield in the background and the space-age stool it's on might as well just go into the same museum installation. Call it Sunday dinner at Mammy's.

>>7373030
>>7372992
Used to have a Proscan 27" that lasted 16 years of hard (and I mean hard) use before the tube started to go bad. I don't think the typical retro game guy is ever going to use his CRTs that much. of course that was also a high end TV and built to a better spec than some junk 13" Korean TV.

I should add when we retired it, the tube was still mostly ok but the red gun was shot (they always go bad) and had loads of bloom--it couldn't keep the focus anymore. Remember one time in a restaurant when they had a shit little Korean TV running and there was no red, it was just blue and green.

I got a month ago a Curved CRT with Component inputs which seems to be really rare since most Component CRT are Flat and I live in a shithole.

>>7373307
why do red guns fail so much?

>>7373320
The heating elements on the red guns are generally run at higher temperatures since it takes more energy to activate red phosphor. Green guns are run at the lowest temperature since those phosphors need the least energy. So if you have a dead or dying tube, you'll find a bad red gun a lot more often than the blue and green ones.

In the 50s-60s often they'd use tube rejuvenators which would basically blast off loose slag fragments from the emissive coating on an electron gun and expose more emissive material underneath. And sometimes they'd replace guns outright but this involved sawing them off, attaching a new gun assembly, and heating the CRT in an oven to reseal it. This also had to be a special oven designed for this purpose, you wouldn't want to heat it in an oven you cook food in.

>>7371891
Time doesn't stand still. Everyone knew there'd be a shortage at some point. The only thing for it now is panic and go around like a crazy person going through dumps, knocking on people's doors asking if they have a spare crt and constantly refreshing sites like ebay or craiglist. Remember - you can always get another job, you may not be able to get a CRT so easily.

>>7371891
Camp Cragslist harder

>>7371891
I got this one on ebay. Brand new in box
So it didnt break in shipping. It had its original packaging.

>>7372992
Keep it around 50% or so.

>>7371891
Ask your mum to text her friends and ask if they have any old tv's or computer bits in their closet
Most boomers have this detritus lying around not knowing what gold it is

>>7373180
What does that TV have to do with black history?

>>7372757
Where does one find flea markets? Literally never seen one advertised anywhere.
>>7372790
>road trip
Again, I only have a bike
>Are you specifically calling them CRTs with your searches?
No, I'll generally search "crt", "tube tv", "box tv", "old tv", and if I feel like wasting half an hour, "tv" and then scrolling through the 500 useless results in case there's something good
>>7372959
Where are you that goodwill still takes these? It's official policy where I am that they don't, same with the other major thrift chains as far as I can tell.
https://www.goodwillsouthernaz.org/donate/items-we-cannot-accept/
>>7373390
>My craigslist has like 2 decent ones so obviously yours does as well
idiot
I've been checking craigslist every couple days for months now, always nothing
>>7373824
Hesitant to do this because I know it'll just end in offers for really shitty massive 32" CRTs that I don't want but will feel obligated to take

>>7372959
that's a junk TV though, the only good quality is it's small and portable.

>>7375124
Not the guy who found the CRT at goodwill, but yeah 99% of goodwills won't take them. Some still have them by sheer chance though. Salvation Army seems to still take them since my local one almost always has one or two. Same goes for Savers, there are a few of them about 20-30 minutes from me that I've found a few at. I also got lucky and have an electronics repair store that for some reason almost ALWAYS has CRTs sitting out front, presumably for disposal. I've grabbed like five or six of them over the last year and only one of them didn't work

don't buy online/pay retarded fees for shipping
search for brands and models (eg sony trinitron) instead of just using generic terms
use offerup, freecycle network, craigslist, fb marketplace and whatever other local alternatives you have
check recycling centers and no name thrift/junk stores (not goodwill)
don't be afraid to lowball retards online, 9 out of 10 times they will be so desperate to get rid of it they'll just take whatever you offer them
be patient

>>7375223
And avoid 80s-90s units although you're not as likely to come across those anymore. 2000s sets only.

>>7375268

>>7373273
That was made in 93 and it was an excellent TV and I'd gladly buy another one if I could.

>>7375276
Still a 2000s set might be even better, and it'd probably component inputs and sometimes even a digital tuner so you can watch TV without needing a converter.

>>7372246
A friend of mine has that EXACT same model in his house and I'm thinking of buying it from him to play my NES, SNES and ps1 games on it

>>7375268
My local Salvation Army used to be a real motley crew of TVs from the 70s onward. I remember one time there was a set with a 1978 DoM on the back and this Puerto Rican dude joked to me that it was as old as he was. That particular TV was pretty much done though, the CRT was about 90% dead and had only a dim, fuzzy mess of a picture.

>>7375291
Doesn't really matter for NES games since it only has composite but the SNES and PS1 have S-video, and S-video disappeared from TVs after about 2008 so you can't even get it with a recent flat panel.

I found an abandoned LCD TV behind my house last summer and it was an older one from the 2000s but still had no S-video.

>>7375268
>>7375276
nothing really wrong with them, but buying a +30 year old screen kinda concerns me, either way you should just grab whatever you can while you still can
>>7375307
>early lcd
why would you do this to yourself?

>>7375307
it'd probably suck anyway. I should stress that modern flat panels with a Game Mode to cut down unnecessary processing and minimize input lag are perfectly serviceable for most retro games, but still won't look as good as a CRT and of course aren't compatible with light guns.

>>7371891
this seems like a problem specific in certain areas. Searching fb marketplace right now there's dozens of people giving them away for free.

>>7375318
>nothing really wrong with them, but buying a +30 year old screen kinda concerns me, either way you should just grab whatever you can while you still can
80s-90s sets don't generally have as good picture quality, they're more likely to have CRTs that are nearly dead, and are more likely to lack composite/S-video and of course component wasn't even a thing yet.

>>7371891
Do you in the boonies?

>>7375268
the only crt I paid money for was a tv from the 2000s with s-video and component and even then I think I only spent $10.

>>7375332
>80s-90s sets don't generally have as good picture quality, they're more likely to have CRTs that are nearly dead

As I said, the Salvation Army in my area used to have tons of TVs and most appeared to be in workable condition. That 70s set with the dead, faded CRT was an exception and of course it was much older than anything else there. You'd be surprised at how many sets from the 80s and even the 70s were still regularly used until the digital switch. That's over 30 years in service in some cases.

One other time I found a little 5" portable in a Goodwill from 1977 (!) but the CRT was also pretty much finished and it had hardly any picture left.

How do you get rid if buzzing sound on your crt? It's annoying when I turn on my snes. Does it have something to do with the cables? I'm using official svideo.

>>7373030
An average CRT from a reputable manufacturer such as Sony or Sharp (not Korean/Chinese brands) is typically rated for 25k-30k hours of use, but if you are a dumbass and leave the brightness/contrast at the default 90% it might be only 10k hours. Even then, that figure isn't the total lifespan of the tube but just how long it would take on average to fall to half brightness.

>>7375375
listen to loud music until you have the hearing of a 50 year old man

>>7375375
I think it's the cable not being seated in the audio/video jacks tightly because I had an issue with the picture repeatedly cutting out on mine (a SNES but I was using the composite cable). I wiggled the plug around a bit and it stopped, but I still had noticeable audio buzz.

I never have this issue on my flat panel TV when I've connected the SNES to it and the cable connection is perfectly tight with no buzzing or other issues.

>>7371891
Do you live in the yukon or something? Fuckin timbuktu or bumfuk egypt? I cant take a piss without tinkling on a crt. People are literally putting them in my toilet. Help

>>7375405
That is what I though of first, was the audio jacks. Removing them from the crt completely removes the buzz. Tried to plug them to an external speakers using various adapters but the buzz came back.

why does everyone keep saying they find crts on the road? is it a meme? is it some weird american thing?

>>7375332
>80s-90s sets don't generally have as good picture quality
Who's buying a CRT for the picture quality? Modern LCDs have them beat by a lot in that regard.
Playing on a CRT is about the "experience" of doing so.

i found 2 really good consumer model CRTs being thrown out on the corner a block away from my house and have found so many decent consumer models over the years from thrift stores or yard sales.

Now PVM/BVMs, thats a different story. I have NEVER seen them for sale anywhere that isnt online. I own one, that I was lucky to find behind a trash-can that must have been for a security system, not Sony-brand and I am pretty sure its actually only in black&white. I need to replace the power cable on it before I ever try it.

Those are the things idk where the fuck you people find em at. I even tried being autistic and checking in with a local news station and department stores offering free electronic "recycling" services in a chance to get one and never got any bites

>>7375481
>I own one, that I was lucky to find behind a trash-can that must have been for a security system, not Sony-brand and I am pretty sure its actually only in black&white
I'd be afraid of security monitors since they're pretty much run all day every day and usually always have screen burn. If it works, fine but it's not something I'd put a lot of faith in working and being in usable condition.

>>7375461
people put their trash by the roads. i guess it sits there since a lot of city trash systems dont pick them up, you have to drop them off somewhere

>>7375512
yeah i am not expecting anything great from it, especially after I lugged it home and saw the label on the back indicating it was B&W. but hell i was just amazed to find one at all

>>7372959
Looks sexy.

I got them in the before time because I knew this would happen. I didn't save a PC monitor though, which seem to be even harder to find.

>>7371891
>didn't believe OP
>decide to check CL
>mfw

Fucking kek, this is about how much I paid for my 20" PVM including shipping back in like 2015. No way anyone is paying this much for a junker set, right?
Although to be fair, there were also several free offers of consumer trinitrons and such. It's not all bad.

I haven't looked at any of this sort of stuff in many years though, since I already have several CRTs and really have no reason to ever need another.

>>7375034
Admiral was one of the first technology brands to market specifically to black consumers. Of course I'm exaggerating a little, that's just a mass produced consumer TV, probably millions like it. But I do love the design.

>>7373060
I'd unironically buy that just because it looks cool, picture quality be damned

>>7375481
AFAIK those CCTV monitors are trash. Typically black and white only, composite input only, etc.

I don't even want to imagine how expensive PVMs/BVMs are nowadays. Even years back, my opinion has been that they're far too overpriced, and it's better to just find a free consumer set like a Sony from the early 2000s with component input. You can buy a cheap RGB-component transcoder as well, and the picture quality will still look amazing. Is the PVM going to look better? Yeah, but that ship has sailed and they're not worth it anymore.

pic-related is my 24" trinitron. The striping effect is just a camera artefact

>I know what I got
>classic high quality retro gaming televiision
>100$ for a shitty emerson
holy fuck I hate boomers.

start by not living in the middle of nowhere.

>>7371891
Literally people in my hood just throw these shits outside, I have quite a few CRTs atm because of them

>>7371891
>Thrift stores:
>Don't even accept CRTs anymore
False. I got one this year and they had several others.

You aren't looking.

>>7375124
Flea markets are often in old former department stores or drive in theatres.

>>7375301
It sucks. Most composite and s-video to HDMI conerters only output 16:9.

I have one and it only does 16:9 720 and 16:9 1080.

Why the fuck can't they figure it out that people want 4:3 480p and 576p output?

>>7375307
My craig 17 inch LCD has S-video.

>>7375332
I had a 27 inch JVC years ago that was cozy.

It had picture in picture, which I couldn't use when they went with this ATSC crap.

The TV had S-video. We were one of the early buyers of DVD, 1999. Despite the technology being out a few years, just about nobody had one around here.

We got a Samsung player with S-Video.
Unfortunately this player was kind of unreliable. Would glitch out frequently.

What sucked was most of the DVDs out at the time were Warner Brothers. Sure Warner was a main inventor of the DVD, but Warner was obsessed with making movies in 2.4:1 ultrawide formats.
They also released movies on DVD in this format.

My TV was 4:3 as most anyone's was.
So though the color was better than VHS, the lack of screen area makes for a shitty image.

When some 4:3 and 16:10 movies came around though it was great.

>>7375223
>search for brands and models (eg sony trinitron) instead of just using generic terms
This helped, wonder why boomers always put the brand name in their CRT listings but modern flatscreens are always just "65 inch tv"
>>7375365
I have seen those portables, actually picked up a Sony Mega Watchman from a Goodwill for 5 dollars. Never seen anything much larger than that though.
>>7377450
I live in Phoenix retard, already said this. 5th largest city in the US by population, maybe you've heard of it.
>>7375461
In suburban America, many people are too dumb/lazy to properly dispose of anything larger than breadbox, so they just throw it on the street corner and hope someone takes it
>>7377553
>I saw one at a thrift store so they must be at thrift stores everywhere
It's literally against policy to accept CRTs for every thrift store chain in my state, I've checked their websites.
I've been to 3 Goodwills, a Salvation Army, and two local/small business thrift stores, and none of them take CRTs or have ever had any in store.
>>7377564
I'll keep an eye out at old retail plazas. Real estate is fairly in demand here and there's a lot of new construction though so I doubt there's any old drive-ins around.

>>7375375
If it is a VGA CRT you just change the hz.

>>7371891
Where do you live? They're very common even in this tiny country I'm living in.

>>7377375
>Typically black and white only, composite input only, etc
Only useful if you need a donor tube for retro computers that use a monochrome display (TRS-80s, classic Macs, etc). Assuming it's the correct size of course.

>>7377680
These people need to get out to yard sales in the warm weather.

>>7377683
Size matters of course, but BW CRTs are good for use with cameras as a monitor.
It is easy to find focus with them.

>>7373409
Haha!
Tasing the Elvis guys was funny in that game.

The CRT in these is 9" which is a common size so if you need a replacement security monitors make a good donor.

>>7371891
>>7377343
What happens when you make an offer? This kind of TVs go for 20 bucks tops here.

10 years ago you could go to any indoor parking lot for an apartment building and find at the least an ok trinitron. I haven't checked any in a while but I imagine they're full of LCDs now.

>>7377640
>I have seen those portables, actually picked up a Sony Mega Watchman from a Goodwill for 5 dollars. Never seen anything much larger than that though.
5" portables are a dime-a-dozen in my experience, but never 70s old.

>>7377698
I can't remember the make, maybe Sony, but at the horse tracks above wager tellers, there were very small professional CRTs in white plastic made to run forever.

They have a chunky power supply adapter on the back of them. Unfortunately there are two different types that have the power pins spaced different.

>>7377698
i will say classic Macs seem to rarely have screen burn although this is typically an issue with monochrome CRTs, but maybe it's the phosphor type used

>>7377705
Never had success with making offers on CRTs usually get no response at all. I assume people know that eventually some moron will pay full price for it.
It's odd because I collect a lot of vintage electronics, especially early 70s desktop calculators, and even eBay sellers will often take offers less than half the list price on those. I guess less demand so they just want to get them sold, whereas CRTs have a larger collector market that's willing to pay any asking price for them.
>>7377729
70s was close to peak television design, only better period I can think of is some of those old Philcos from the 50s

>>7377758
>70s was close to peak television design
Not sure I'd call this "aesthetic."

>>7377771
peak soul. pic-related is the kind of TV I used to play vidya on as a kid. Couldn't really use the modern (at the time in the 90s) 32" set that was in the living room to play games, because that was dad's space to watch his boomer shit.

>>7377771
Looks decent with some minor changes

just use Craigslist, only look for free listings, just look for "old TV". You aren't going to get instant gratification, it's going to take awhile, particularly if you aren't in a high population area. I live near Seattle and it took about a month, but I found two CRTs for free that had everything I wanted, and one of them was literally a 5 minute drive from where I lived. Also most importantly - actually play games instead of worrying about hardware bullshit

On the topic of Craigslist, anyone know of a service that'll pick up a craigslist item for you and deliver it for a decent price? Like Doordash for secondhand junk?
See a lot of stuff including CRTs that I'd buy but it's like an hours drive away and there's no way I'm going that far out of my way for it, and in my experience Craigslist sellers absolutely refuse to ship or deliver even if you offer to pay shipping costs plus some extra for their time and effort.

>>7377771
>>7377794
>mess with the knobs behind the tv
>megaman turns weird colors

>>7371891
It’s all people who found their CRTs in 2011 and act like a decade worth of change hasn’t happened, or people who literally live in Nowheresville, Wyoming.

>>7373271
Interesting insight into the history. Thanks, anon!

being an eurofag has its advantages, just yesterday i found a 14" sony trinitron in a dumpster. after a bit of cleaning and adjusting geometry etc its quite nice. scart rgb included bitches

>>7377794
thats soooooo cool

>>7377771
larger B&W TVs were getting rarer during this time and increasingly limited to hotel chains.

It’s drying up for sure on cl in Boston area. A few years ago finding trinitrons in smaller sizes 20-27 inch was easier now and sometimes pvms it’s just a few 32 inch trinitrons and some random composite only models like sharp etc. Someone was selling a pvm 2530 really cheap for around $700 last spring but I couldn’t justify buying it since I already own one and lost my job due to covid. Still regret it and I wish I could have hoarded in the past years when people were giving them away basically before the retro gaming tv phase started. Do people just use Facebook market place now instead of Craigslist?

>>7378074
I got a couple 2 years ago for free and I live near one of the largest cities in the country, I think its a lack of patience and grit.

>>7378598
>near
This is the real key.
There's tons of CRTs out in the suburbs because people live in the same house for 50 years without cleaning out the basement once. That CRT they had in the 80s will still be there.
In the actual city, everyone lives in apartments they've only been renting for like 5 years and has no storage space. They threw out their CRTs a decade ago when they got their new flatscreen.

My Sony KV-27S66 started sparking yesterday. I heard some sparking noises and saw brief black flickers on part of the screen. I looked at the back of the TV when this started happening and sure enough there was a spark around the part in the back that glows orange every time that sound was made.

I blew at it with some compressed air and that seemed to stop it for now, but I'm worried what this could be. I've heard it could be just dust, but if it were then why would it start doing this now when it worked perfectly fine for over a year?

I'm scared, I don't want my TV to be fucked, all the other CRTs in my area are composite/RF only and the good ones are 10 states away, pickup only

>>7377794
My Emerson has a similar feel to this.
Silver front but wood sides.

>>7378706
Bad flyback capacitor--it's leaking and causing a spark. I had this happen on an old 14" VGA monitor once.

Funny because they're cheaper and easier to find than LED TVs. Check OLX, OP.

>>7379565
Not a third worlder

Over the summer I saw a Sony tube tv face down on a sidewalk as I was approaching the entrance to this one 7-11 that is situated in a sort of alleyway. Admittedly it was somewhat of a wrenching sight.

I have an RCA Dimensia from 1988 with S-Video but the corners are soft, the geometry is off and it makes a high pitched buzzing noise sometimes. How long do I have until it dies?

>>7371891
There are two for sale at a goodwill about 10 minutes away from me for like 5 bucks each.

>>7375146
I have a similar RCA and it's fine.

>>7377640
>chain thrift stores
There’s your problem dumbass

It depends on your location. I got a Sony trinitron for 5 bucks off marketplace. Try around spring/summer when people are cleaning up garages and such

>>7377640
>and two local/small business thrift stores
>>7381060
Can none of you fucking retards read

>>7381395
>only two
Did you even try, retard? Might as well have not tried at all

Boomers paid me to take every single one of these and I'll resell them all to zoomers.

>>7381450
gee, I hope it doesn't rain there often

>>7372246
>component
yikes

>>7371891
Bought mine from Ebay

>>7382237
not every CRT that has component is an HD CRT.

>>7381450
Yeah, everyone knows that the outdoors is a great spot to store CRTs

>>7382237
Are you that autistic?
>>7382710
Not all HD CRT's are bad. I have a 32'' Sony that has an HDMI input and even it is amazing for Composite inputs. They're not all bad. This TV must have cost the guy a fortune back in the day.

>>7381759
You'd be surprised what a CRT television can survive. As long as the Tube's in good shape. You can rebuild most anything else. And even then sometimes you can find NOS tubes, but I wouldn't count on that being a thing in the future.

>>7382821
The tube can be rebuilt too, at least if it's a monochrome one--used to be done in the 50s-60s.

>>7371891
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>>7371891
It's like how garage sales used to be filled with retro games and old PCs and things. But anyone trying to get rid of those things have done so by now.

>>7381395
stop calling people retards and talk like a grown up

>>7383705
RETARD
FAGGOT
N WORD
TRANNY

>>7372959
That's a really nice looking TV.

>>7371891
Just picked up a Sony broadcast PVM for only $100 shipped! Its in its original box and is barely used.

>>7371891
>tfw scored two pvm 2030s for 120 bucks

One of the issues anons face is they live in poor or europoor or huepoor countries where PVMs were never produced domestically and were only imported at great expense and generally never made it in any number onto the used market.

LMAO who cares about some old tube crap? All retro games worth playing were designed for PlasmaTVs and L.C.D.s anyway.

>>7384526
I guarantee that it's a flea-sized (5" or 9") screen, but enjoy I guess if that's what you want.

>>7371891
Live in a small to medium sized town in the midwest and usually see old people getting rid of CRTs on craigslist for like 20 bucks.

>>7371891
Try this op, offerup dot com. Report back with results. I get more results here for crt's than craigslist and fbm combined. Start with , trinitron, old tv, crt, box tv, big tv, tv and go to free listings. I got a fffgghHUGE sony wega trinitron for free from an elderly couple

>>7384826
13"

>>7385856
In that case, decent find. Nice.

>>7372959
You got fucked

>>7388636
how did he get hosed?

>>7371891
My friend's parents had one in their basement and I offered to buy it and they gave it to me for free. That's how you find them.

>>7384537
>haven't looked at PVMeme prices in years since I bought mine 7 years ago
>look up prices on ebay
>500 dollars for the 13" ones
>even those shitty 8" ones are 100+


wew fucking lad. I remember scoffing when I saw that people were paying 400+ for the 20" model I paid 60 bucks for, and that was back in 2015-2016. Looks like people want 1000+ for 20" models, oh god

>>7371891
I have two nice smaller Trinitrons that I found at a thrift store and a flea market respectively. That thrift store still puts out CRTs occasionally. They have a really cool looking Telefunken right now but it's from the 70s so it only has RF.
>>only local result is a shitty Phillips flatscreen from 2002 with that hideous silver bezel for $60
Oh my god, this is the price you'd pay for a larger Trinitron TV on the local equivalent to eBay. You can even get some PVMs for not much more.

>>7372992
Thanks for the tip dude.

>>7382821
Man you just reminded me of the time I thought I broke my TV when I spilt Orange juice down he back of it (looking back it fucking had holes going down it so it just meant the OJ went inside) and stupidly turned it on the see if I broke it. The picture was warped and it scared me enough to turn it off and leave for school. Thankfully it was fine when I came back, but that was a pretty scary moment for me since getting a replacement TV wouldn't have been an option for me for years.

I was checking the tvs on sale in my region through an ads website and i found a good amount of sony trinitron tvs under 100 euros.
How easy is it to sell these to hipster fucks in Europe? The idea to reselling a 60-euros piece of junk as a 500 euros "MUST-HAVE FOR ALL RETROGAME ENTHUSIASTS" tv is kinda tempting.

>>7391948
get a job

>>7384819
So which 4:3 aspect plasma are you using?

Guys just seen this on eBay do you think I should get it?

gonna drive to pick up a KV36FV310 alone. i have a dolly but i will have to pick it up to put it in the bed of my truck. wish me luck lads, i am fat btw

>>7392079
I don't know what to tell you about the price, but that is nice.

>>7392096
That TV probably cost 1500 pounds when new.

>>7392407
Is that also the weight ?

>>7392453
Exactly, zoomers are too frail from the lack of BGH in the milk to carry a TV up or down stairs.

>>7392079
that nog should be paying you 500 to haul his trash away for him
>"retro gaming rare!"
always ignore anything that has tags in the title like this shit.

In fact, funny thing about how I was able to get my monitor for cheap on ebay a few years ago. Things were nowhere near as expensive as they are today, but still expensive for the larger PVMs. But instead of searching for typical terms like "PVM" I did searches for things like "endoscopy monitor". I was able to get a large PVM for dirt cheap because it was an olympus OEV model (just a sony PVM but rebranded for medical shit). Had it been tagged PVM, or god forbid any of that "retro gaming rare look" shit, there's no way I would've been able to snag it.

>>7372294
I just went to three non-franchise thrift stores in the valley, bought five CRTs and took a hammer to them for you not knowing how to poor.

>>7379639
>Argentina
>Poland
>Portugal
These countries are not shitholes. Besides that craiglist is available in third world countries too

>>7384537
>STARS
Is that, Chris?

>>7375481
>pvm/bvm
>not Sony
what did he mean by this?

>>7371891
Trying to find a PVM is the worst
>$700
>Tags: RETRO, GAMING, VINTAGE
I'm in the fucking NY-NJ-PA tri-state area, how is there not ONE fucking PVM/BVM at a reasonable price around here?

>>7394848
don’t actually fucking type pvm dumbass. You’re supposed to be looking for old farts giving away free shit

>>7394862
Old farts love posting model numbers. Especially film/production guys.
Searching for broadcast or production monitors works too.
A good place to look is also the yard sale section of Craigslist. Look for studios, rental houses, or even small shooters clearing stuff out. I haven't found any monitors worth buying from these types of sales, but I've run into some smaller monitors at them plus tons of cool a/v gear that was worth grabbing.

>>7394848
Why do you need a PVM? get a big consumer TV with component since you'll have to invest in scalers and custom cables for RGB anyways. And if you play 6th gen games they'll also look best over component.

>>7377413
I check ebay from time to time for the lulz and see 13 inch black and white sets with RF only from the 70s selling for $200 advertised as a retro gaymen TV. Shit is maddening.

>>7395123
Only if you have an Atari 2600 and want to be super period accurate with the TV you use it with.

>>7395123
>>7395134
Used to have one like that. My dad had our C64 hooked up to it. Even as a kid I didn't like it and wanted a color display. Why anyone would want a TV like that now I can't imagine when 2000s sets with S-video are available practically free.

9 years ago
Sorry yoy missed the boat

Filter your results to local and don't search any specific terms, just like "Old tv" or something like that. You'll find some stinkers for sure, but there's always people giving away CRTs that are at least good and sometimes great. Don't fall for the broadcast monitor meme.

i live in the suburbs of a major city, a college town at that, and all of the crts dried up years ago. i used to go crt hunting regularly when they were everywhere and now i haven't seen one anywhere in years.

>>7371891
Put up a wanted ad

>>7394848
as someone who has owned two and still has an ikegami, just find a good consumer set, as late as you can get with a curved glass screen with component input, hard to come by with those critera but still, you could also get into rgb modding them

>>7371891
CRTs are rare now? Shit, I better take care of mine...

>>7395482
I suppose I should mention why, pvms are convinient but are too sharp and the scanlines are so pronounced its like looking through black bars, no arcade screen looks anything like that, they look like a good consumer set running rgb

You can get them from recycle centers for less than 5$. Just call before and say you're an artist looking for materials if they say you can then you're allgood.

>>7379639
>Not a third worlder
I'm sorry for you, you're missing out!

Ok can anybody explain to me the differences here. I am retarded, but it seems intuitive that most ps2 and previous console generations look better on a CRT - made for that resolution, display, whatever. As I do not have a CRT, I have found the best way to enjoy PS2 still on a conventional LCD widescreen television is to use component cables (the blue, green, red ones) as opposed to whatever the fuck the white, yellow, red ones are. This WITH progressive scan activated in games that have it makes for quite a nice image - would a CRT still be better? BAsically I am trying to justify spending like $200+ on a CRT for mainly PS2 and PS1 consoles, which I am playing currently in the above mentioned method. I also use the tv's "zoom" function to fullscreen it.

>>7395734
It really would look better on a CRT. To be honest the sixth gen suffers the worst from not being on the "correct" TV, imo. Please don't drop two Benny bills on it though, just keep your eyes peeled on fb and Craigs for two weeks. Just use the search term "TV" or "Old tv" and you'll be walking away with one in no time at all.

>>7395734
>>>$200+
Never pay more than $20 for a consumer crt
you can still get trinitrons from next to nothing, just keep looking

I just secured this for $40 and a 4 hour drive round trip on the 20th. It's a 27" Sony Trinitron, I'm pretty excited for it. It was owned by another /vr/ nerd and was taken well care of, from what I've seen. You can get stuff like this for comparatively little, if you're patient and haunt your local craigslist and Facebook marketplace.

>>7394862
>>7394886
This is why I still look up this stuff, and finding yard sales is as easy as asking for a list of them from the township clerk. At most you'll pay $0.10 per page, which is absolutely fine. Free is preferred but it's NJ. Anyway, it's these senior communities especially that have a lot of good shit, but what pisses me off is no good TV. The bad part about these people is if they aren't a hobbiest or former, they just throw the CRTs to the streets to rot.
>>7394895
I forgot about that shit, I don't know why I forgot until I was looking and remembered "wait I do still need to get other cables and shit"
>>7395482
You know, I have found a lot of televisions around here that fit that criteria
I also thought about getting a rear projection TV, if anyone has experience with that

>>7396234
Oh fuck you know what I can get that stuff tomorrow
Do you think people would be interested if I just got a storage unit to keep these TVs in and gave them out for free to whoever wanted a crt?

>>7396516
Probably. I just live in the heartland and I have no huge population centers within 6 hours, so something like this is harder for someone like me to find. Pls no bully

>>7371891
Your a fucking idiot.
Just buy mine at an expensive price, since you cant get them yourself.

>>7371891
I think this may be extremely dependent on your area but I've found that offer up is great for this shit. Got me a good one for 20$ and then right after there was another one a guy was giving away free. Dozens of other crts for cheap some people even had the box/styrofoam/instructions/remote.

Craigslist is off and on you have to check occasionally some weeks it's absolutely empty others there will be like 4-5 listings. Mercari sucks too many "gamers" thinking their trash has value.

>>7372294
Ok didn't know you lived in the phoenix metro area, dude check offer up. Set your range to as far west as buckeye and far east as gilbert. If you can't find one then you're legally blind.

>>7397110
>Set your range to as far west as buckeye and far east as gilbert.
Not really practical when my only transportation is a bike or Uber/Lyft. My only way to pick up a CRT would be in a rideshare, and they get ridiculously expensive for anything longer than a few miles.

>>7397208
Get daddy to give a you a lift,he might also help you get it in and out of the truck.

>>7397208
You don't have a single friend with a ride that you can just say "hey I'll pay you for gas and in n out if you help me get this tv?". Also would an uber driver be cool with you bringing a huge ass tv in their car?

I just checked a basic tempe zip code on offer up and found 4 within 5 miles that are reasonably priced.

One's a pvm for 110 but I don't really fuck with those. One had admitted issues but is 30$.
Two are promising, one is a 27 inch for 45$ another is a 24 inch right below az mills area for one 20$ but the listing is from a year ago.

>>7397264
>You don't have a single friend
No, I don't
>would an uber driver be cool with you bringing a huge ass tv in their car
They've always been fine with ~50 pound rolling suitcases in the trunk when I'm going to and from the airport, don't see why a ~50 pound tv would be any different.
>>7397294
24 and 27 inch are far too big. Don't think most uber drivers could fit it in their car, I'd have no way to get it up the multiple flights of stairs to my apartment, no place to put it in my room, etc.
I'm looking more for like a 16 inch or so, which seem to be impossible to find unless you want to pay 40 dollars for absolute garbage

>>7397381
>No, I don't
You need to focus your time on making some friends, not video games. I spent years holed up playing games and in the last couple years I've been socializing and making friends, and I have to say the latter is far better for you than vidya. It's your life, though. Focus on buying a car first.

>>7371891
I make my own

They are just around but most people seem to be blind or unwilling to see

>>7397381
>No, I don't

>>7397381
dude fix your life first, at least get your driver's license, you'll get a crt eventually, they're getting rarer, but they're not full blown rare yet, you've still got quite some time

Gotta keep your eyes open. Never know where one will pop up.

I fouNd a really rare rare CRT eith a 32" tube with a 110 degree tube capable of composite and SVGA to 1024 X 768.

Over 150 lbs but the deflection controls need work.

Drive around through the suburbs and the hood the day before trash day. Guarantee you will see one lying by the side of the road in perfectly good condition.

>>7397478
>>7398413
I have a license and I own a car, it's just on the other side of the country at the moment because I generally don't need it here. I live in a city. People walk/bike places in those. Not wasting ridiculous amounts of money on a car doesn't make you a failure here like it does in the suburbs.
>>7398476
>Drive
>suburbs
Man I wish people actually read threads before commenting their inane nonsense

>>7373109
You can physically burn flat panel displays. Not just the notion ruining individual pixel groups by leaving bright images too long, but if the panel is physically warm, there is a chance the backlight can actually cook spots in the panel and ruin the output in those spots. Lookup purple/blue blotches on TVs to see it.

I'm sure there's more to discover, but in general people throw out TVs every few years these days, whereas CRTs typically would stay around for a while.

>>7375375
You might want to clean out the CRT if you've never done it. A build-uo of dust can cause some additional electrical noise and heat, dropping the life of the set, but in general, a 15kHz buzz is something you'll hear no matter what because that is what the flyback is driving.

You might just be able to decrease the volume of it if the set is clean and all your connections are good.

>>7392093
That's like 180 pounds, and it's difficult to hold. Unless you are seriously strong, you're going to throw out your back.

>>7377576
That's exactly what the Retrotink2x does. Low latency, 480p output and fast switching from all the oddball game console resolutions from composite, s video, and even component.

Just having a Google now. Facebook Marketplace has quite a few CRTs for sale in my city. $50 AUD seems to be the average for 27" and up screens. All composite and/or 50Hz only though.
I've been playing around with someone else's 6" PVM and decided I wanted one myself. I bought a Sony 20M2MDE from someone in the UK who sells former NHS equipment. All up with shipping and crating it cost me a bit over $1550 AUD, which I'm happy with.
Has anyone had their PVM or CRT serviced? It just feels like it's something I should get done once it arrives.

>>7396234
How's the geometry on this bad boy? 27" is about the upper limit where they have to throw in some extra components to get the image spread across the screen, and that means more opportunity for some wonkiness. Play a game like A Link to the Past or Crusader of Centy and walk around to see how it looks when scrolling.

>>7398575
>1500 dollarydoos
Christ, m8. Well, since you've already done it, might as well give you a real answer.
If you paid that much, hopefully it's been well kept, serviced, and survives the trip. Plug a bunch of shit in when it arrives and test it thoroughly. Pvms are actually very easy to work on and service. Download 240p test suite as you'll want it to do your calibrating. You won't need to disassemble to do any of that, you can access calibration menu from the in screen system menu.
If you aren't able to calibrate it, it may be due to some hardware issues like bad capacitors. You'll have to take the enclosure off to get at those but it's piss easy and service manuals are easily found.
You may have to do a yoke adjustment as I've read they can shift a bit when shipped long distances. This is also piss easy and you'll have to remove the enclosure.
If it's all working and looks good, I wouldn't worry about it. Don't pay anyone to work on it, the monitors were made to be serviced regularly so it's all very easy and accessible.

>>7395143
Sometimes the aesthetics. They just don't make chassis like that no more. I have a set from 86 with woodgrain and everything that I got from an old man on Facebook marketplace and I love it despite the poor picture quality. Would I pay 100 dollars for one though? Hell no.

>>7396506
>I also thought about getting a rear projection TV, if anyone has experience with that
I have fucking 3 in my basement in good condition. Its impossible to get rid of them.

>>7396516
Just be the CRT Santa like this guy

>>7398613
I'm in Perth and I've been searching locally for a 20" PVM for about two years now with no luck. The monitor itself was $900 with the rest spent on shipping.
Thank you for the advice.

>>7398637
There seem to be a bunch of film rental houses and studios in perth and Western Australia? Did you shoot any emails out to them?

>>7398647
Yeah, no luck. By 2018, most places I contacted had already sold or thrown out their larger PVM. Some places still rent out 9" and 14" monitors, but I specifically wanted 20" or larger for lightgun games.

>>7398685
Fine, I was getting ready to call you an abo wog cunt but I guess you're alright.

>>7371891
If you have one, your local electronics recycling center usually has them for cheap, and sometimes to give away. When you bring things there to dispose of, they give you this little tag that asks a few questions (battery related and stuff) so they can tag and organize it better. One of the questions is also does it still work.
The one in my city has a shop that cleans and repairs most serviceable electronics for a small fee (5 dollars if the TV already works, under 20 if it needs to be opened to see what's wrong)
So far I've found a Mitsubishi Diamondtron there for 15 dollars.
Take a look. People drop things off daily to places like that.

>>7371891
Local Facebook Marketplace

>>7400748
a lot better than craigslist i've found.

>>7400714
are they annoyed, do they treat you like a beggar?

I just bought a 17 inch dell monitor for 50 bucks, how badly did I cuck myself?

>>7401061
I had one. It was just okay.

CRT monitors are the same as a new monitor on ebay, even at the worst it's not that bad. Just bite the bullet

>>7400748
Of course whatever middle american hellhole you live in will have CRTs for sale, no one is able to afford flatscreens

>Free
lol

>>7402196
won't games look a bit crappy at 40 inches?

>>7400976
No, they either don't give a shit or are happy to get the extra money. It's all trash to then anyway.
Be careful not to spew off about your autistic hobby, though. They're likely to look monitors up online once you're done, and they definitely will if you go off about muh gaming. So, you may only get one pass through the place before they start selling monitors themselves on cl/OfferUp. I've seen it happen a couple times where I live.

>>7371891
I have a 16:9 32 inch phillips matchline
and a 29 inch 4:3 LG tv in my basement saved for future times

for time being I use my 21 inch Sony CRT to play

>>7402392
they look fantastic, CRT is superior tech
the image is just fucking alive when playing games

only plasma can reach this in 2nd place and has too much lag for nintendo games

>>7395482
This i own three pro monitors (a 20" PVM, 14" BVM, and a 14" panasonic) and I love the look, but they're not worth the modern asking prices. I got all of mine a long time ago when you could still get them for less than $50 each.

Good consumer sets are still plentiful. Really easy to still get a nice trinitron with at least s-video or component inputs, and you can use an RGB converter box. And you can actually get larger ones, whereas 20" is your practical max for pro monitors unless you find a unicorn and pay the price of a car for the fucking thing

I have this
what do?

>>7371891
I got one free on craigslist its way bigger than I. thought it would be. Takes up about half the space of my closet music studio/game room.

>>7382237
There is a sweet spot in the early 2000s where you had 4:3 480i CRT's with component before they went HD.

Closest to PVM that you can get and it's pretty close.

>>7402392
CRT's don't have scaling issues with growing size like their LCD counterparts.

>>7403140
I think OLED is better but I don't think higher aliasing looks better but I guess that's just a preference
>>7403301
again I'm talking about aliasing, scaling doesn't matter on any device if it's the same resolution as output

>>7371891
How much do you want one?
https://dotronix.com/our-work/dnr-series/