/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7357345
=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
500ml of /vr/
BETA, UPDATED:
https://archive.org/details/500ml-vr-halloween-beta
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/7271649/#7274097
https://discord.gg/F968y8Wj4x

=== NEWS ===
[1-30] New version of Odamex is coming soon
https://twitter.com/Odamex/status/1355592601844523011

[1-30] Mansion got updated to 1.1
https://darsycho.itch.io/mayhem-mansion/devlog/217342/mayhem-mansion-11-at-last

[1-29] JMAA posts demo of 32-map megawad on /doom/
https://jmaa.tv/mindprison-project

[1-28] TrenchBroom 2021.1-RC2 released
https://github.com/TrenchBroom/TrenchBroom/releases/tag/v2021.1-RC2

[1-28] Quake SM211 released
https://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=62012

[1-27] Eternity Engine 4.02.00 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/119425-eternity-engine-40200-forseti/

[1-27] MIDI pack for the Master Levels for Doom II has been released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118804-master-levels-for-doom-ii-25th-anniversary-midi-pack/

[1-25]Hellevator Defintive Edition is now on idgames
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/helevtor

[1-24]Hell Frontier Episode 1 released for beta testing
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/115739-hell-frontier-episode-1-11-maps-episode-for-doom-2-currently-in-beta/

[1-21]New Quake Map Jam
https://www.moddb.com/mods/blue-monday-jam/downloads/blue-monday-jam

[1-18]The Force Engine update!
https://theforceengine.github.io/2021/01/18/TFE-Update-2021-Plans.html

[1-17]Backwoods demo release
https://twitter.com/Shorted_Fuse/status/1350601620338434049

[1-15]Time Tripper, a Doom II episode with custom conent and minor gameplay changes
https://heckscaper.com/tt/

[1-15]Wrath: Aeon of RUIN Updated
https://steamcommunity.com/games/1000410/announcements/detail/4589698632264671265
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2N12cxEXVs

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0/edit?usp=sharing

TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST

first for FUCK Nigger-Life

second for combine arm's update is ded

7357367
>already seething
based op

>>7357371
It ain't dead, you butthole.

Why don't I remember any HL weapons except the shitty bug shooter

>>7357375
lol, didn't see the OP yet when I made this post.
Any hl mods that are as good as Sweet HL or that cowboy one?

>"I just f***ing hate this world, and the human worms feasting on its carcass-mmm. My whole life is just cold, bitter hatred, and I always wanted to die violently-mmm. This is the time of vengeance, and no life is worth saving, and I will put in the grave as many as I can-mmm. It's time for me to kill and it's time for me to die-mmm."
-John Carmack, E3 1995

>>7357379
damn.

>>7357380
Because they are the same as every other console shooter, pistol, salt rifle, shot gun, etc

>>7357380
>>7357389
tau cannon, spore launcher, hivehand, displacer canon, gluon gun, gravity gun, etc

>>7357394
forgot snarks, colt python and bug bait

>>7357402

>>7357380
The crowbar is really good.

>>7357394
Sadly the tau cannon is only good in deathmatch
Speaking of which, anyone want to beat my ass in hldm?

>>7357380
because you're gay.
i can hear every weapon in my head perfectly, the sound design for the guns in that game is fantastic, even the shitty smg is memorable.

>>7357410
Lads, what are the best hard fast faggot maps?

>>7357402
the truth comes to us from within the bubble

IDGAMES ROULETTE, PEONS! Can't play tonight, you all better roll some good shit.

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?random

>click link to get a random upload from idgames
>play it (as far as you want anyway)
>no need to finish it if you don't like it - it's supposed to be fun
>take at least one screenshot
>post a link to it here in reply afterwards
>tell us what you thought about it
>if you get a DM map, texture pack, or utility, etc, reroll

>>7356489
Mapwich 2
There are actually a lot more viles in the next rooms

>>7357429
https://jmaa.tv/mindprison-project

>>7357410
I think we found the name for the next /vr/ megawad

>>7357345
>IN YOUR HEAD RENT FREE
>literally spammed HL threads all day and kept posting in last thread to get me to shit on it when no one was even talking about it
Yeah, ok.

Anyway, I've gotten some good ones in on the OP:
Gay Shift
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/7110184/
Gaydon Fagman
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/7156167/
And of course
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/7245009/

And turnabout is fair play. Rejoice schizo.

>>7357517
Mr. alf I must know... do you have a favorite Quake mod/mappack?

>>7357517
And you couldn't help yourself and took the bait.
Btw there is a comfy goldsrc thread right now so you lost.

>>7357529
Beyond Belief and Arcane Dimensions. I also like Quake 1.5

>>7357536
Why do you care so much if some random guy likes your game? Make maps or shut the hell up.

>>7357545
Because he spams and ruins threads.

>>7357536
I guess if you want to call it that, I saged in most of your threads then I hid them

>>7357543
haven't heard of beyond belief, will have to check it out. thanks

>>7357548
Literally when? I didnt even mention Half-Life before you started shitposting about it last thread. Posting one time in a thread that Half-Life is shit and then shitting on tards who take the bait is not spamming. Holy shit you're obsessed.

>>7357345
Based

>>7357558
Do you have any self awareness?

>>7357548
Objectively untrue. alf is off doing some shit or other, and I only spam this thread. the rest of /vr/ or 4chan in general is too shitty and low-test for me to bother with. More than one person dislikes Sissy-Life, deal with it.

7357570
No fooling anyone mate

>>7357571
Take your meds.

>>7357575
Predictable response of a /v/tard

>>7357517
that image you used in the golden age thread has always made me wonder, who would win in a dm between all these guys?
>Corvus (Heretic)
Last survivor of his race and wizard. Hard to place his power.
Gameplay same as Doomguy but better due to consumables. Busted if allow him to transform enemies into chickens.
>Caleb (Blood)
Wiped out a cult of whom he was a part of himself and absorbed the powers of the god they worshipped, so he's definetly far more than a mere human now.
Gameplay wise he's far more agile and capable of jumping unlike BJ/Doomguy/Corvus, so he's at an advantage against them. Also has consumable healing like all Build protagonists do and a well rounded arsenal, and dual wielding on top of all that.
>Ranger (Quake)
Is still just a dude even though he killed a lot of eldrich monsters.
Gameplay his weapons could use some work considering against whom he's up against but his mobility is unmatched. Strong hitscan needed to kill.
>Doomguy
Slaughtered a lot of demons but at the end of the day he's just an angry man similarly to Ranger.
Gameplay wise there's not much to say, has the "default" weapon set. No good on demand consumables
>Duke Nukem
Is just human but is somehow capable of tanking multiple suicide drones blowing up in his face despite wearing no armor so he's a far tougher dude than doomguy or ranger
If he hits anyone with the shrinker they're instantly dead. Otherwise he's fine.
>B.J. Blazkowicz (Wolf3D)
Peak participation award, he's just a grounded hitscanner with pathetic mobility. Lorewise not comparable to anyone on the list either.
>Lo Wang (Shadow Warrior)
Horny chinese man would probably be able to 1v1 all the others on the list in melee since he is a trained master swordsman. Not so sure at range esp since we are taking away nukes. Blowing up a evil ninja supercorp also isnt as impressive as killing a god or entire alien invasion
Has good consumables and movement like all the other Build characters, also on hand invisibility.

>>7357415
No. TC is the best (strongest) weapon in the game in single player as well.

at this rate we are going to lose a lot of our current regulars for this constant shitposting. two fags just going at it.

>>7357581
What about the Gloun gun?

>>7357587
I did nothing wrong.
Faggot gets triggered by a pic.

>>7357587
I like to sit back and watch the slap fights for a bit, please post the cacos again that was fun.

>>7357601
fuk u and ur caco

>>7357587
Yeah it's kind of amazing that the jannies will warn and nuke people for the tiniest things but this fucking retard is allowed to run amok with impunity.

>>7357581
I still find myself using the shotgun altfire the most, or crossbow for distance enemies. Tau Cannon takes like 4 shots on hard to beat a grunt so it's really not very useful to me besides just being cool in concept

>>7357587
>at this rate we are going to lose a lot of our current regulars for this constant shitposting.
I'm not going anywhere. I've seen worse, it's fucking tiresome noise but I have work to do.

>>7357345
Why did the demons kill Daisy anyway? Were they deliberately getting back at Doomguy for wrecking their shit, or did they just stumble across Daisy and go "Aw look a cute bunny-LET'S KILL IT"?

GOD TIER:
Amid Evil, Dusk, Ultrakill, Prodeus, Doom Eternal

GREAT TIER:
Ion Fury, Doom (2016), Nightmare Reaper, Project Warlock, Viscerafest

OK TIER:
HROT, Wrath, Gloomwood, The Citadel

SHIT TIER:
Hellbound

We can all agree on this, correct?

>>7357587
More than 2 people, I pose as at least 3 different anons.
>>7357618
I've only been banned for saying the n word and for disrespecting a certain transgender modder, really makes you think

>>7357624
>eternal in god tier
Yikes

>>7357624
Man every time I try to play Hellbound I can only get a few levels in before dropping it. That fucking canal level always makes me lose all interest in the WAD.
Which is pretty pathetic on my part because I think that's the second level? Something about Hellbound has never set right with me.

>>7357629
It's the fact that it flaunts itself as SUPER HARDCORE shooter despite being completely generic, directionless, and uninteresting. The devs know this which is why it goes overboard with the 'THIS GAME WILL NOT HOLD YOUR HAND LEL XD' bullshit

>>7357624
swap dusk and wrath

>tnt evilution map 27 mount pain
What am i in for?

>>7357282
Sadly never, Sven Co-Op is dead.
U_U

>>7357636
Wait, there's a game called Hellbound? I thought you were talking about the WAD.
I don't really pay much attention to most of these games aping on old shooters. I've played Dusk, and it's alright, Wrath seems neat but I give everything a pass most of the time.

>>7357624
Put all on shit tier.

>>7357639
wrath is basically the same as any arcane dimensions map, nothing special at all

>>7357641
a certain amount of pain

A lot of these aren't even finished so no opinion on those that aren't. I'd swap Ion Fury with Eternal, and Citadel with Project Warlock. Dunno if I'd put AE and Dusk at the top.

>>7357642
Doom deathmatch is dead too, no reason we can;'t have a game every once in a while like the frtiday night fragfest guy

>>7357282
NEVER
SVEN COOP IS FOR CHEAP LYING NO GOOD ROTTEN FLESHING LOW LIFE DIRTY INBRED IGNORANT BLOOD SUCKING DOG KISSING BRAINLESS DICKLESS HOPELESS HEARTLESS FATASS WORM HEADED SACK OF MONKEY NIGGER SHIT

>>7357651
>>7357624
meant to reply to

>>7357662
Cope goldsrc mods are based.
You missed the golden age.

>>7357662
Hey um..... could we not be so fr*cking racist? thanks.

>>7357669
THE ONLY THING GOLDEN HERE IS MY FAT FUCKING PANT ANTLER AND YOU'RE GIVING ME A TUG, FAGGOT

>>7357669
There's Like 10 goldsrc mods total and they all suck. Quake 2 on the other hand......

>>7357683
>>7357680
Underage

>>7357689
Post 30 Goldsrc mods on par with Cacoward winners. You have 10 minutes.

>>7357692
>spoonfeed me
No

>>7357695
So you're admitting there are no worthwhile HL mods? Curious...

>>7357698
So you are admitting you are zoomer?
Nice

>>7357705
It has been 3/10 minutes. You still have yet to post a SINGLE good HL mod.

>>7357692
HALF LIFE BRAVE BRAIN IS THE BEST NON NIGGER MOD IN THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD IT BLOWS YOUR DIMELESS COCK MONGLING THUNDERCUNT GREASY UNDERTIT FAGGOT DOOMWORLD MODS

Did you guys know Blake Stone: AoG was the first FPS to have textured ceilings and floors (though only the ceilings made it in due to performance issues) and the first to have NPCs? Ultima Underworld had texture floor and ceiling textures but was obviously not a shooter and way slower.

>>7357624
>Gloomworld
>only ok
Also, I'd argue its not really the same category. It has very little to do with Doom engine, Build engine, and Quake engine style of gameplay, more taking from Thief, System Shock, and to a lesser extent Resident Evil, Silent Hill, etc.

>>7357708
The Specialists

Damn the autist is easy to trigger.

>>7357712
Did I seriously type Gloomworld? Gah, I'm tired.

>>7357710
No one cares.
You already failed to shill ROTT.

>>7357345
HALF OBSESSED

Could you guys stop being huge faggots? Yes, HL killed the Golden Age of FPS that is widely agreed to have began in 1992 and ended with it's release in 1998 but this all caps faggot shitposting back and forth is fucking gay.

I don't even want to shitpost about it anymore if these are the type of schizos it attracts, on both sides (if it isn't a spastic replying to himself)

>>7357725
>>7357726
Lol he lost it

>>7357709
1/30
>>7357713
2/30
You have 1 minute left before HL is objectively bad.

>>7357710
I wish there was a better way to play Underworld with reasonable controls than that terrible shitty unfinished Unity port.

>>7357729
You have failed. Half-Life is now factually and irrevocably a terrible, barren, embarrassing, nigger game.

>proving OP point

>>7357641
Best mountain in an IWAD map.

>>7357743
Half-Life confirmed for being hated by racists and other laggards.

Doubt it's a direct reference but I got a chuckle out of it

>>7357648
and dusk is? it's level design is just like replaying quake e1 over and over again but the hallways are fields.

>>7357759
I am so anti-racist that some might call me insane for it.
>>7357762
Wasn't a huge fan of Dusk either honestly. So far none of these """throwback""" (kike moneygrab) LE BOOMER SHOOTERS have been any good.

>>7357762
>He only played E1

>literally can't even run the old Ion Fury preview campaign properly on the only PC I have access to
Time to replay Douk again I guess.

>>7357726
Half-Life is objectively the best 90's FPS. Deal with it.

>>7357759
As a racist, I think half life is pretty okay.

Zoomies gonna zoom zoom

>>7357772
Anon, I think your chastity cage is on too tight. You clearly meant to type Quake 2.

>>7357771
There are worse fates
Like this

>>7357780
>worst quake
No

>>7357782
I hate those things so much.

>>7357785
Yep, he's a zoomer. Go bake to your tranny discord, celephais cultist alf.

>>7357618
Meanwhile the Wii thread is still up lol

>>7357793
Wii has 3 or 4 good games, meanwhile the HL series has zero.

>>7357798
Nintentoddler

>>7357410
>>7357445
Man, it would be tempting to name a set of levels that, if it wouldn't turn pussies away from playing it.

>>7357810
??? I've literally just implied a majority of Wii games are bad. You have a Nintentoddler mindset when it comes to Sodomy-Life. Take your Seroquel And shut the hell up. Maybe play some BASED Quake 2 to cure your cocklust.

>>7357818
Why bother being subversive if you're not going to commit to it.

>>7357782
That webm still gets me. Fuck Sentry Drones.

Imagine losing your shit over OP pic lmao.

>>7357618
He resets his router to get a new ip, so banning him does little.

>>7357621
Yup.

>>7357641
DISASTER AREA

>>7357832
He's doing this shit right now.
His bait is pretty weak this tome tho.

>>7357832
It's multiple people. You are delusional. Take your meds.

>>7357832
IPs have a range. If they were doing their job his would have been banned already.

>>7357836
*this time

hey lads, does anyone know if I can disable texture culling in Doom64 EX?
I want to play in fisheye view but it culls the corner textures out

Today I will remind them

>>7357782
You can hear them hovering about when they're nearby, c'mon.

>>7357849
>they said it online that means it's true!!!!
When will zoomies learn?

>totally mindbroken
OP is based

>>7357824
I want people to play my maps. I also don't want crying faggots bringing a bunch of retarded heat down on me because they don't have a sense of humor and can't stand a tiny bit of unflattering language.

>>7357860
Just stop having shitty subhuman thoughts?

>>7357863
What a racist thing to say.

>>7357852
"C'mon", what? It's just a funny clip of me getting my shit wrecked, I even learned my lesson here (you can see I almost didn't, though)
They also don't hurt that bad if they do hit you.

>>7357864
Wh*tes aren't people. They are alien invaders.

So this is the power of HL chads?

>>7357726
GOO GOO GAA GAA IM EATING MY OWN SHIT WHY IS THIS WORST ENGINE EVER HATER BULLYING MEE AGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

This is getting sad now.

MY FART SMELLS FUNNY

>have to watch everyone take the bait constantly
>have to watch same retard fight himself to keep it going
>for the millionth time

You are going to click this link.
https://www.doomworld.com/afterglow/textures/
You are going to reply here with your favorite.
We will vote on one together over the course of 3 (three) (III) threads.
Then we will all make a map set together, whether you're
>new
or experienced.

You can't kill me, I will not die
Not now, not ever, no never

>>7357901
For me, it's Gothic.

>>7357901
Biolage

>>7357901
when you put it like that... i'm in you son of a bitch.

Dark forces

>>7357901
The NMN Corporation textures look cool. What wads were they used in?

>>7357945
>>7357941
>>7357938
>>7357937
Keep it coming
I'm not sure of what existing projects use em but I'll compile some quick texture demos if you respond here wanting to see a pack in action.

>>7357841
Wow, you are a bigger faggot than the shitposter for suggesting that. Range bans hurt innocent people.

>Figure out that zombiemen and imps have dying SFX sourced from camel noises
>Can't unhear them every time in other games that use similar sounds
>Camelry in AoE II, Wolves in PSO, and Congalala in MonHun just to name a few

>>7357782
I love the hubris aspect of this, it's like a 3 second stage play.
>that puny fucking turret is shooting pistol shots at me
>I'll show it! Not the chaingun, not the shotgun, ah, the rocket launcher

I'm not knocking you, everyone's been there, it's just funny as a sequence of immediate consequence

>>7357901
Biolage or Dark Arena

>>7357982
>>7357967
Checking biolage reveals it's only a partial texture pack.

>>7357987
Okay, then my third choice would be NMN.

>>7357435
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/Ports/g-i/gorefest

easy d1 map with cramped layout and cyberdemon fight at the end

>>7357987
>>7357982
Dark Arena lacks flats and the textures are half sized since it's converted from a GBA. I'm assuming this doesn't matter cause it's not a full restriction for the actual mapping (IE you can just use Doom textures)

>>7357969
You're a retard with no idea how IP allocation works. You don't get a "new" IP when you reset your router, one from a pool of available IPs for your region and subnetwork is given to you. You can and will run out, sometimes after as few as a dozen, if you are repeatedly banned.

>if you're new to the mod, don't pick ultra-violence
>unlike vanilla doom ultra violence is meant for experienced players while hurt me plenty is for newcomers
>pick ultra violence anyway

>>7358050
Well fuck. Next you're gonna tell me that the NMN packs have a combined total of 8 textures, huh?

>>7357975
Been hearing what I thought were Doom sounds my whole life and it always gets me. Fucking stock sounds.

>>7358078
While Doom doors is a classic case especially, I remember hearing the Quake elevator sound used for a door in another game and that really took me off by surprise given the genre.

>>7358072
Decent amount here + flats. Perhaps we should check Realm667 too. (or just download the packs and open them in SLADE/DB first). Ill come back in the morning to see what to demo before committing to more here though.

>>7358052
>one from a pool of available IPs for your region and subnetwork is given to you
So those people can just fuck right off, right?

>>7358092
Png dump

I'm playing through Perdition's Gate right now and having a blast. I was told here that it's awful. Am I a pleb?

>>7358171
True plebs seek validation from others instead of enjoying what they like.

>>7358130
I like this one. I must admit I'm too used to vanilla to care about texture packs right now. I always get overwhelmed.

Do you guys know anything that could pass as heaven textures that mesh well with vanilla? So far nobody I asked could suggest anything good.

>>7358249
This maybe? Wad called Bifrost.

>>7358259
Oh, that looks like it could work.

Have anyone heard what happened to Beyond Unreal?
Does anybody have a backup of their content?

You know how Final Doom has unofficial sequels like Plutonia 2 and TNT Revilution that gives them a more modern interpretation?
What if some 90's megawads had the same treatment. Like an unofficial sequel to Memento Mori 2 or Icarus, for example.

>>7358321
Planning something, anon?

>>7358324
Nah, I'm not really a mapper myself. Just something I think would be cool.

I asked the AI at dank.xyz to generate "a Doom screenshot" and this is what it spat out, pretty neat

>>7358339
This is what it spat out for "a Wolfenstein 3-D screenshot"

>>7358339
>>7358352
Ooh! Ooh! Ask it to generate boobs!

>>7358321
Icarus had official TeamTNT sequel, Daedalus.

Reverie is pretty much Memento Mori/Requiem worship. Jenesis also takes influence from Memento Mori and Requiem along with other classic megawads.

>>7358321
Actually Plutonia 2 feels more dated than Plutonia. It has some mapping and gameplay mistakes, that are considered bad nowadays like symmetricality and sudden spawns of hitscanners that expect player to die, if he doesn't memorize that point of the map. Original Plutonia managed to avoid those.

It's essential wad nonetheless.

>>7358249
Maybe take something from Hexen and Heretic and mess with the colors?

>>7357761
Uncultured millennial detected

>>7358379
I know about Daedalus, but it plays more like Hexen.
Reverie was full of TeamTNT worship aswell. And I liked that and Jenesis, but I meant more direct sequel than just "90's mapsets overall"
>>7358386
Plutonia 2 did have a messy development that took around 8 or 9 years to release, so some maps are more dated than others, yeah. But Gusta really saved it from being completely dated, IMO. You can still see some influence from his PL2 maps in a lot of modern wads.

>>7358386
>sudden spawns of hitscanners that expect player to die
>Original Plutonia managed to avoid those.
I like Plutonia, but I wouldn't say it completely avoided that. It does have a couple fuck you moments with chaingunners.

>>7357710
>Ignoring the fact that it was a very basic metroid vania seeing you could return to previous floors to get the rest of the monsters and secrets.

how do i git gud
i wanna play doom and blood but they are so hard

>>7358516
practice on a lower difficulty

>>7357410
>faggot maps
based, fuck pedos

>>7358339
that one of the very few it done at least somewhat close

>Pixel art of Mario
have a pup lol

>>7358516
use cheats
get a life
have sex

>>7358516
idk if others do this but jumping on multiplayer games helps me improve and hone my skills. I get my ass kicked over and over until I git gud, trial by fire.

>>7358516
Try playing through Knee Deep In The Dead on Hurt Me Plenty difficulty, and then again on Ultra-Violence.
And if you haven't already, turn on always run. It will make things easier,

>>7357641
It's a mixed bag of a map. The sewer area is awful, but the rest is actually pretty good.

>>7358506
Zero Tolerance did that, and it was on fucking Mega Drive.

>>7358571
fair enough then.

>>7357384
Only my space-rockets understand me (;_;)

>finish doom and doom:super shotgun sim in chocolate and crispy respectively
>install gz to play mods easier
>everything looks like ass and sounds like ass
Switching to software rendering undid the terrible vaseline filter but what should I do about the sound, opl synth emulation? the soundfont guide in the op is 7 years out of date so of course the links are all dead, but what's that soundfont that doom was composed in? and despite the freelook, unless there's a mouseaim setting I missed somewhere it should aim like it always has right?

>>7358532
it looks like a pile of mangled mario carcasses and a single bloodied one still standing behind them, the pupper is on a plumber genocide
>big elf tits
l-lewd

>>7357869
TFW when as a kid you could not setup the soundcard settings properly in SW and just played the game mute with only MIDI music enabled, since the autodetect option caused each sound effect annoyingly stutter and the whole game froze upon every attempt to play them to completion

>>7357345
Previous one isn't dead yet Alf-haters

>>7357345
What source ports for wolf3d are the equivalent to doom source ports, like chocolate-doom, gzdoom etc? i want to try all wolf games but dont know what source port is best to use

>>7357402
The cloud wants you to take them.

>>7357901
I thought we were doing a Plutonia mapset first.
Not that I'm complaining.

>>7357402
>>7358679
I found out who needs the large arcane meds.

>>7357402
>Boomer found literally using mapping

>>7357601
>>7357612
As the cloud foretold

>>7357579
Bitterman would invade the match, Activate quad + Invulnerability, Blast them with the BFG, finish the rest with the railgun, and call it a day.

>>7358571
And no one has ever made a Doom port of Zero tolerance 1 and 2, and that once would be nice.

>>7357726
Video game magazines from the 90's says otherwise, as many communities back then.
also the many many cds's with addons for Q2, douk3d, doom and HL who were literally the top sellers.

>>7357987
That looks like a budget HR Geiger texture set. I like it. That makes me wonder if there are any explicitly or implicitly Geiger styled texture packs. It would be neat to see Hell as Geiger flesh landscape self sex instead of Doom's flesh landscape.

>>7357579
Honestly Corvus wins due to those broken items. Turning people into chickens, invulnerability, intangibility, flight, health restoration, teleportation. His armor protects his health better too. The only way to beat him is to hit him with a surprise BFG ball or a nuke

>>7358738
tome turns his weapons pretty absurd too

Quaddicted is offline for the time being
https://twitter.com/quaddicted/status/1355855928831180804
It seems that Fagweather and his friends went on to shit the forums with political baits and Spirit accidentally nuked the server because of a bait.

>>7358705
I want Bitterman to crush me between his lime green biceps.

>>7358516
pistol start and saveless, starting from easier wads

once i forced myself to do this, my skill increased immeasurably, and now i can play many wads blind for fun

>>7358747
>Fagweather
This fag needs the rope

>>7357345
Why is it literally impossible for retro fans to NOT take the bait every fucking time? I could shitpost in Brutal Doom here and at least half of you niggers would take the bait without fail

>feeling annual doom itch
>look for some unplayed megawads
>try out struggle: antaresian legacy
>enjoy it, 8/10 bretty good
>want more doom so look for more wads
>try out running late 2... get really bored by levels 8, 9 and drop it
>try out Rowdy Rudy 2, it's meh af and don't understand how it got a cacoward, drop it a few levels in
>try out Antaresian Reliquary, it's decent but don't like the wind down on the chaingun
Meh. Can someone give me a new fun map pack to play?

>>7358786
You don't go on other boards, do you? People bite obvious bait most of the time.

>>7358759
Not him, but I used to attempt saveless runs blind when playing wads. It seems alright at first, especially when playing shorter and easier wads, but you will inevitably hit a brick wall at some point with the harder and longer ones. And I don't just mean gotcha traps that only killed you because you didn't see them coming.
Ribbiks wads for example have fights that are often designed with specific strategies that won't be immediately obvious to blind players, and even once you've figured out the stategy, it may be difficult to pull off reliably in a saveless run without practicing the specific fight with a save beforehand (which would disqualify the saveless run as being blind).
Theres also cases of maps that are just really long. As in, will likely take at least an hour or more of in-game time to reach the exit. Attempting saveless blind in these kinds of maps can be quite an endurance test, and may even completely ruin your mood if you happen to get 55+ minutes into the map, and then die to something that may or may not have even been something difficult and could have instead just been something else, like rocketing yourself, or a stray projectile hits you.

>>7357579
For Doomguy, if you look at damage values
pistol: 5-15
fist: 2-20
So he's pretty strong for his fists to do similar damage to a pistol shot. Not to mention when he uses berserk where he can one punch kill people for the rest of the level
I don't think that would help here at all but wanted to point it out, the thing that makes Doomguy different than others is probably his unarmed melee strength

>>7358787
Preacher.wad
>EVERY TIME I SING I SING FOR THE LORD
>GLORY GLORY GLORY AMEN

>>7357579
If no jumping required Doom guy would win. Otherwise he's fucked. Duke would give him a good fight. If jumping necessary Duke beats all of them, even with Ranger's fancy side to side ankle twisting jumps.

>>7358821
*Oh but wait, Douk couldn't handle it in Caleb's world. Who knows?

>>7358747
>Fagweather and his friends went on to shit the forums with political baits
Any screenshots?

>>7358816
thanks i'll try it

>>7358835
Play it in GLBoom, or at least boot it up for the first time there to watch the start-up demo.

Options -> General -> page 5 -> Sector Light Mode: GLBoom
Toggle Gamma in-game with F11

>>7357345
Is there a list of Texture names with their names in the WAD files?

>>7358867
You mean like a list outside the wad so you can look at it outside the editor?

>>7358871
Yeah, example TEKGREEN is probably something like RW_XX in the actual wad, so I want a list that has both names side by side

>>7358879
Textures are actually encoded in TEXTURE1 lump that you need to open. You should be able to extract them from there in bulk as well in SLADE.

>>7358821
Do the other guys have anything like the BFG9000 though? It has a crazy high damage output, especially for its amnunition consumption, and its esoteric behavior allows for creative tactics.

>>7358892
Lo Wang as a nuke. It's not as esotheric though and Doomguy would learn from arch-viles to evade it.

>>7358813
Kind of, and there's certainly something to be said for being able to punch an imp so hard his body explodes. Duke does have an equivalent with the roids/hotsauce, which lets him kick hard as fuck (and run insanely fast), but it's also a timed powerup, as opposed to the Berserk pack lasting an entire level.

>>7358894
>Lo Wang as a nuke. It's not as esotheric
But it is pretty exothermic

>>7357579
Does Lo Wang get to bring a tank?

>>7358747
How the fuck can someone be that incompetent? Why is the last server backup from fucking November? Jesus christ

>>7358826
Gman Shilling HROT along with the zoomers following it too because its "muh quake" already shows that the game is shit.

>>7358959
My "schizo" radar is on Fishy answer.

>>7358786
>retro fans
the same reason people believe in democracy or that their vote matters, they are cattle easy to manage

>>7358964
>My "schizo" radar is on Fishy answer
?

>>7357860
get better friends

>>7358972
pretty much, or they are incompetent, or its something else.
seeing how this week, anons lifted the fuckery inbetween the Q1 mapping circlejerk led by fagweather vs quaddicted because of ter shib's 1 star fuckery

>>7358052
but you get a new one when you change your network address and there are thousands of ips for you to get
>wow, I managed to run out of hundreds of thousands ips... what's this, a mobile phone?

>>7357818
>ARE YOU A HARD, FAST ENOUGH FAGGOT TO DEFEAT OUR 32 HARD FAST FAGGOT MAPS

>>7357975
in Banjo-Kazooie the camel character's "voice" is just the Imp's death cry lmao

>>7358339
looks more like quake 3 honestly

>>7357818
You can probably replace faggot with "asshole" or something which would still work but won't turn pussies away from playing it.

>>7358532
I remember when that happened in 1999, what a day that was haha

Is there any way to play Doom deathmatch games now? Do people even play?

I've never tried it and I would like to.

>>7359021
it's getting harder to find deathmatch servers on zandronum but i'm sure there's at least one sitting around still
worst comes to worst, you can play by yourself against the bots

>>7358668
Well it is now, shizo ;^p

>>7359021
zandronum odamex zdaemon

zandro if you just wanna get into it

>>7359039
Sounds like you're trying to summon a demon over there.

>>7357345
why Doom 64 not in the OP download links? I want to play the real port and not EX

>>7359067
because you have to log into steam to play it

>>7359073
Oh i remember hearing about the Bethesda login thing but i thought they removed it. That's a bummer

>the pic hurt my fee fees that means its bait

>>7358301
Anyone?

>>7359067
>I want to play ex with removed features, not ex

>>7358301
>>7359086
they had a raid disk crash in... 2006 (without backup), and after that they lost their will to live forever and ever

>>7359078
even the poorfags have $5 to spend. it's a good game. my only complaints are, no revenants or archviles, and 2-3 levels have really annoying hyper-cryptic puzzles that you need a walkthrough for

Hey did the anon who was trying out that HROT link on anonfiles ever give an update? Was it legit?

Marauder in MetaDoom when?

>>7358669
If you care about historical accuracy then DOSBox Wolf is fine, no sidestrafing though, so be prepared to forward/left-right turn to get around corners. There is a WASD movement mod for DOS Wolf that adds sidestrafing though.
For sourceports, i think ECWolf the most famous one.

>>7358787
I fuckin loved that movie back in the day. Even if it was retarded as hell. I knew it. I didn't give a single shit.

>>7359089
beyondunral was functional just a few months earlier

>>7358879
Oh. You mean patch names. Tekgreen (for instance) texture is tekgreen, made up of one or more patches that may or may not have the same name.

>>7359112
Hackers is brilliant.

This was the book/software my dad had, if anyone remembers that discussion about old game engines like power3d.
It had a bsp based engine/editor included. Not sure what the loisencing was like on it, or what the engine was called (may or may not have been called genesis3d).
I think I might see if I can find a dl of the software somewhere and run it in a virtual machine.
Just downloaded unity last night since I haven't used it in like 9 years and it seems better now. And still scales down in graphic fidelity quite nicely.

>>7359137
Oops. Forgot pic.

>>7359078
It's not really a big issue for me, at least. You can still play if you're not online (in the Xbox One version at least which is the version of the Bethesda releases I have) and play any mods you've downloaded previously.

I just really like the way Bethesda is doing it in that a lot of these really classic mods and even some new ones like REKKR (despite what John Romero might tell you) that deserve way more attention besides just the online doom community and they are now getting it with Beth curating and adding mods regularly. Consolefags get to experience them and that's a good thing in my book.

>>7359137
Is this actually the Power3D software that they used to make games like Lethal Tender or something similar?

>>7357623
The former. It's also why they specifically chose his hometown as the launchpad for the invasion of Earth.

>>7359157
No, this was something else that came out a bit later. I remember it being pretty decent when compared to unreal engine. This was like 2000 or so.
Had some neat lighting effects, physics, etc...

>>7359170
Ah, so it's true 3D then? Cool. Might be interesting to mess around with, it seems like game creation gets a lot more complicated when making the jump from 2.5D FPS to 3D FPS, which is why I was thinking maybe Power3D might be easy to make a game with, but I was thinking about it last night and since it's so old and there's zero support or community out there for it anymore, and it'd have to be run through DOSBox if we can even find the editor software, it might be a more daunting task than I thought.

Pic related it Lethal Tender's sequel Terminal Terror. It's limited to be sure, small viewing eras and a focus on inventory items and management but the same themselves (well some, like these) are fun

>>7359179
Uh fuck, that's Ken's Labyrinth.

Here is Terminal Terror

>>7358804
hi anon (i'm the one you responded to)

i agree that saveless blind can get really frustrating. but on the flip side, i've found that i just really enjoy it, and am willing to play easier wads that let me do it. in fact, i'll say my favorite wads are ones where my skill level allows me to play that way. i do prefer wads with shorter maps, unsurprisingly (I think I played plutonia saveless blind).

I guess I just really don't enjoy the savescum-grind-then-beat-saveless grind?

i still haven't beat sunlust saveless/pistolstart, and maybe i never will; i know my skill level is too low to beat it without tons of grinding. the hardest map i've beaten pistolstart/saveless was probably map 27 (or was it 28? the sunlust-y one) of hellevator, and i had to practice it like crazy, and while it was pretty cool beating it, i just didn't enjoy the experience overall?

i wish i were like decino and could beat most popular wads saveless blind. but i'm not that good, and am content to play easier wads than him. luckily, there are many wads at my skill level

thank you for your response and for reading my blog

>>7357435
I got Reactrfv
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/p-r/reactrfv

wow, just playing a few mins before bed and it 's great so far, each encounter usually has a way to go around the back to deal with the balconies of enemies (or just go guns blazing). My only complaints is that ammo and health feel a bit slim (in other words it was 1 person's passion project). Also thank god for mouselook

>>7359179
Power 3d did end up being a 3d engine, but it was still limited to a grid with warped verts like tomb raider or soul reaver.

If /vr/ ever gets a wild enough hare up their ass to make an actual game GZDoom or Unity are probably the ways to go tbqh. But if I can find this software online somewhere (haven't looked yet) it might be fun to see how it is...

>Its not a medkit but a medi-kit
oh my god my life is a lie

>>7359198
Those would definitely be the obvious choices for ease and versatility. My suggestion of using an archaic program like Power3D or the one you found was simply for the novelty of using a retro program to make a retro game.

>>7357723
No one is shilling an anything, I am sharing interesting information with you. If you hate retro FPS so much why do you post in these threads?

>>7359275
>if you don't like ROTT that means you hate retro fps
ok faggot

>>7358813
That is pretty fascinating actually, I never realized his fists did so much damage. Wonder if in-universe it's something with his suit that makes him so fast and strong or they pump grunts full of chems to make them that way.

>nb4 hurr durr doom lore?

>>7359280
Where did I say that? I have never even posted about Rise of the Triad, I am just saying if you hate games so much why do you post here? You're very hostile.

>>7359095
It kept timing out on me, what is the deal with anonfiles? Is it just total shit?

>>7359293
the irony

What are the best ports to run Blood

>>7359308
?

>>7359310
NBlood or Build GDX.

DOSBox is passable. Fresh Supply is also OK, a lot of the issues got fixed but there are still some.

>>7359303
Anonfiles is compromised garbage. Just stick with catbox instead.

honestly don't understand what sort of mental gymnastics you need to employ to rationalize why a game with nothing but 90 degree walls is good

>>7359118
lol, no anon, maybe you could post in the forums but that's it

>>7359328
anyone got a catbox link to HROT?

>>7359329
You don't think any games like Wolfenstein 3D have merit?

>>7359329
he loves to shit on other fps and gets mad when people do the same with his favorite game.

>>7359118
you don't even remember nali city, skin city or the many sites hosted under beyond unreal

>>7358130
These textures look awesome. Will this little project be a boom or limit removing thing?

>>7359340
Which ones?

>>7359334
No catbox but mega

https://mega.nz/file/SEch2YQS#BCf5MHpNzhco7alUflT_rFAiwfcjp8qTZ6HjHLI7KOU

Spoilers: it's shit like the rest of the nu-bewmer shewters

>>7359339
not as anything more than more or less interesting pieces of history, definitely not as worth playing

>>7359351
but muh muh golden age muh 2.5D soul clone shit

>>7359263
Fair enough. Could also use build 2 for something in between.

>>7357435
Hell Pit released in 04 made in 96
bretty gud starts strong kind of falls flat towards the end. in context I guess I'd give it 4/5

>>7359351
That's a shame. More for me then.

>>7359351
Blake stone is the only one I go back to. If it was a little more fleshed out it could be great.

>>7359339
No? They're so limited in what they can do that they're artifacts that are truly outdone.

>>7359369
I personally like Planet Strike more than the first one but it added some interesting ideas to the formula

>>7357345

ROTT

More like SHITT

>>7359375
I don't think I've actually ever played planet strike. I should check it out.

Completely agree. Who thinks we should change the OP to be "DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD (NO WOLFENSTEIN 3D ENGINE GAMES) ?

We might be able to come up with something shorter but that would eliminate a lot of this. Let them make their own threads.

>>7359363
what weapons mod?

>>7359383
Yeah, it's an improvement in most all ways the engine would allow, the graphics are better as well.

>>7354949
cursed beyond oblivion

>>7359351
Did you know even Todd is a fan of Wolfenstein?
That being said I don't think Wolf3d is a good game, or even worth playing beyond the shareware version. If I wanted to play Wolfenstein I'd probably play Return to Castle over it

>>7357380
DO YOU SUCK DICK?

>>7359391
I liked the stealth gun they start you out with. It's never useful for long, but if they had leaned on that sort of gimmick a bit more it would've been neat. More interactive walls. Maybe plot. I dunno.

>>7359376
>no nipples

Artist is a coward.

>>7359393
already fixed it, thanks to myself

>>7359384
I'm in favor. Stuff that old and archaic really shouldn't be allowed to be discussed here.

>>7359104
thanks!

>>7359384
anything that helps kill these garbage threads faster is based and redpilled to me

>>7359449

>>7359389
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=51833
leds generic weapon mod. It's not bad, decent voxels

>>7359449
Then go home faggot.

>>7357435
Realm of Hell from '00 (https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/p-r/realm).). Advertises itself as a "Quake episode 2 styled level", in GothicTX. The architecture is okay but the level has a severe lack of ammo, I'm not even sure if you can UV-Max it. Despite this it's very short and easy to run past everything to the exit. The cramped spaces that a lot of these really detailed early 2000's levels have actually work in this map's favour due to its use of pinkies and barons. 3/5.

>>7358787
fun movie and she was never hotter after

>>7358976
So what does this mean for the rest of us?

>>7357648
No way, Jose. AD maps don't look like Wrath's, and Wrath's don't look like AD. Also far different approaches to combat.

>>7359501
For the rest of us? We follow LordHavoc's example.

>>7359513
Vomit. I'd rather give up Quake entirely.

>>7359513
quake bros... how do we come back from this and trannyweather's clique...

>>7359513
Didn't know Danzig was into Quake mapping.

>>7359501
Nothing. Quaddicted will come back since it has a backup. It's just baffling that the admin fucked his own website trying to delete some comments like come the fuck on.

>>7359518
>Q1 community is pozzed as Fallout frontier and Beyond skyrim teams
>Q2 is fractured outside a few ruskies, quakewuld, moddb, cafe and tastyspleen
>Q3A is autism
>RTCW and MOHAA are a few
>Q4 had all of its history deleted along with Planetquake
its literally a curse

>>7359531
There is no coming back from this, unless the supposed nuDoom style Quake 1 reboot happens and it causes a renaissance of Quake mapping and interest like nuDoom did with the old games, bringing in new blood

>>7357435
The Human Hive from '18 (https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/g-i/humanh).). A kind of city/hell level with lots of flesh textures. Unfortunately got stuck in one part with no clear path forward, so I noclipped and saw that there were some cool areas that I was missing out on. Clearly a lot of work went in to this and it's a good map but I'm done trying to progress. I'm assuming pic related it a boat, it looks pretty sweet. No rating.

>>7359538
>and it causes a renaissance of Quake mapping
What did he mean by this? Quake mapping never stopped.
>>7357929
Anon I don't think you understand mapping or modding much. Most people don't need or want anything fancy. Most people just want new maps to kill enemies in. If it really meant that much to you, you'd be leading the charge and making a new map yourself.

>>7359193
I like playing blind without saves, and I want to play Sunlust, so I'll play it on skill 1 for my first time

>>7359543
I said a renaissance, as in tons of interest and new people, not the same old small circle of enthusiasts the Q1 community has always seemed to be

>>7359513
>ITS MA'AM

>>7359550
Reasonable. With progs_dump 2.0 there's lots of potential for crazy, happening shit in the future. I'm actually pretty surprised nobody's made a p_d 2.0 mod yet.

>>7359513
how long before the inevitable obituary?

wouldn't getting into quake modding and source ports be a bigger casual filter than doom?
also, decino for quake when?

>>7359184
looks like an ECS Amiga game.

>>7357345
Hey, is the Win98 pack anon here? I am having an issue with Powerslave PC. I know the game uses checkpoints to save in the stages and it doesn't seem to have a save feature when I go to the menu, just a load feature with the name of my game file. I made it to like m4 or something last night, I assumed it must autosave. But when I loaded it up just now and loaded my file, I am back at stage 1.

This isn't the first time that happened, when I played it the first time I got it I made it to the second stage and then quit and I restarted again later, but I assumed I just made a mistake somehow and didn't save.

tl;dr how the fuck do you save in Powerslave PC?

>>7359578
Here it is in action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGE2qaby-vE

I've been playing it through DOSBox, it's ok but I liked Lethal Tender more

>>7359575
>wouldn't getting into quake modding and source ports be a bigger casual filter than doom?
It is. That's why the current mapping community is rather insulated with the occasional nobody coming in. It helps that though that the insulators are pretty good at making maps.

>>7359575
It would be but not significantly for those who would be willing to seek it out anyway as it was with Doom after nuDoom, the true casuals won't bother to begin with.

>>7359513
Face it, HRT is really the only option for the Quake community at this point

>>7359543
Not him but this is the most retarded excuse ever.
All Quake maps since the last decade are literally AD clones and garbage shit made slaughtermaps with pharaonic shit in it with no gimmics or "real exploration", they all suffer from post Episode 1 and mission packs Syndrome, even quoth monsters becomes boring as q1's stock beastiary.
Meanwhile good stuff like 1.5, Ter Shib, Nyarlathotep and DOPA gets nuked because "it doesnt follow the "modern" quake mapping", all because they went outside the box and added gimmicks.

>>7359550
Anon, the problem is that this "small circle" is vocal and why is this clusterfuck that it is nowadays.

>>7359342
>>7359118
PlanetQuake file archive actually has dump of some other Planet sites inside of it, with most files preserved

>>7359616
I know but with enough new blood coming in, couldn't we drown them out? How do we stop these faggots and their pozzing of the community?

I wish I could make a Quake 2 map again, but I'll have to put it on hold for a while.

FFS, player->platform collision is so jank in Jedi Knight.
Aparently head hitboxes are triangular here instead of box, so if you hit your head on the ledge above, you slide backwards a bit. This makes climbing some ledges and accesing some secrets (and even some necessary for progression places) very tricky trial-and-errory to reach.
This one is a secret that took me literal 10 minutes of humping to get into.

>>7357435
Well 4chan just ate the reply I wrote and I'm not typing it again. I rolled Descent into the Depths of Chaos #3 from '94 and it fucking SUCKED! (https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/0-9/3chaos))

>>7359547
i should do this

thanks

>>7359616
>DOPA
I posted DOPA's quaddicted page before with someone else using a similar argument, and DOPA's page was filled with glowing praise. The only critiques, and completely reasonable, were about the lack of new enemies. I sincerely do not understand this narrative being pushed that DOPA was ill received. Are you sure you're not giving a vocal minority too much power?
>Not him but this is the most retarded excuse ever.
It's not. I could play Quake and the 1000s of maps forever. If YOU want to see something new, YOU need to do something about it. I'm content playing arcadey maps that look pretty or look boxy because that's all I want or need from Quake.
>All Quake maps since the last decade are literally AD clones
What did you think of Through The Gates? gsh_adoria? Mapjam9? mars_e0m1? That's the problem with you Quake naysayers. You don't actually care about Quake. You care about bitching about Quake. And Ter Shib didn't get nuked. Its first releases have glowing praise as well. It was the Drake Redux that got caught up in bullshit.
>>7359624
>couldn't we drown them out?
Who's this we bullshit? Are you going to map? Are you mapping at all?

>>7359652
Good

>>7359652
imagine being fucked out of your own creation lmao

>>7359652
the "id" of today should simply be called yid

>>7359659
>Good
Why though?

>>7359652
Why is Todd on there? Bethesda only publishes id games and essentially has no input on such decisions.

>>7357543
>Quake 1.5
This is the Quake equivalent of Brutal Doom.

>>7359617
is not the same site, it was called nali city 3
nalicity.beyondunreal.com

>>7359673
I'm sure Bethesda has no influence whatsoever on a subsidiary they own. I know this because they say so.

>>7359629
Whatever, just dont chop off your dick or something worse (^_^);

>>7357612
Anyone else actually find Cacos kind of cute? I don't want to kill them.

>>7359151
What's the story about romero and rekkr?

>>7357429
Time Tripper from >>7357361 is great too. Gameplay's very fast and furious but you'll likely die a lot and have to save/load a lot in fights.

>>7359706
Tough shit they try to eat me.

>>7359689
Technically Zenimax, but yeah that guy is deluded to think a holdings company does not incentivize going after stuff like that.

>>7359630
Wasnt crouch-jump a thing in all Q3 engine games?

>>7359708
Literally nothing, he tooks like 5 seconds to figure out the name of REKKR and some sped(s) has been trying for force a meme on here.

>>7359708
Romero frothes at the mouth every time anyone mentions it to him. I believe it's because Rekkr stole Sigil's thunder, including winning a Cacoward over Romero.

>>7357624
Wrath should be in great or god tier.
Doom (2016) is good but it's a wave shooter and looks odd in this list.

>>7359708
shit meme the pet schizo forces

>>7357624
I have ~100+ hours in prodeus, knock it down a notch or two until they release more campaigns and stop relying on the community to fill the void of levels.

>>7359658
Of course i dont care about quake, quake is DEAD!
Quake community, where everyone cared about the franchise, not retarded "muh Q1, rest is shit" Died with planetquake and Tenfour, and "modern" community is a bunch of pozzed children freaks from that time who were fucked sideways larping as old farts grooming idiots with them to shill everywhere that Q1 was GREAT OMG AEWSUM, when it was mediocre until Q2 and Q3 came out, and it was carried because of said 2 games and then the creation of Machinima.
Also the Equivalent of Retro "hunt down the freeman" which was Nehahra which only idiots, Lordhavoc and wikipedia who the authors made the fucking post, praises it.

Or that Duke Nukem 3d and Doom had more popularity than quake 1, and both had better multiplayer and mapping communities during that time, which Q1 had for a brief moment before everyone moved to Q2 and went on to do game design and work on companies.

there is a metric fuckton of magazine archives on the internet bashing quake 1 for all its flaws, mainly the dull brown pallete and the maps becoming boring after episode 1, mainly halfway through episode 2.

>>7357624
>Gloomwood ok

Gloomwood is the only game that will actually grab me when it comes out.

>>7359741
>Of course i dont care about quake
Just glad you're admitting it.

>>7359741
>LordHavoc
That's LadyHavoc* now, mr. man

>all this cringe ass tranny infighting

It really is inescapable. Why is this shit everywhere?

>>7359741
>i dont care about quake
>200+ word responses

>>7359774
Shitheels with nothing better to do.

>>7359716
This is JediEngine game, not Q3 engine, you are mistaking it with Jedi Outcast.
The series go: Dark Forces -> Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2 (this one) -> Jedi Knight: Jedi Outcast -> Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
Only Outcast and Academy use Q3 engine.

You also some times slide back even with no ledge above just because game wants to be funny

>>7359778
Jedi Knight is SITH engine

>>7359774
West is a mess of demoralized men. Its simple. Not enough mapping.

>>7359774
Where ever trannies are, these speds will seek them out in order to complain that they don't want them around. 5 years from now they will come to terms with things and transition themselves, no doubt.

>>7359785
>that pic
More like Troon"guy" lol

>>7359774
Many trannies can't help themselves but inject their degenerate fetishes and shit into whatever they do

>>7359713
If you get close enough that they are trying to eat you then you're doing something wrong.

>>7359793
Examples? I imagine you have folders upon folders of evidence.

>>7359774
>Why is this shit everywhere?
Moderators that refuse to do their fucking jobs, probably because they're trannies themselves or otherwise retarded degenerates that got blackmailed or something.

>>7359658
Yes, of course I do. Though my stuff is not good. But they're killing the community for everyone else, not everyone has to make maps to contribute. Is that you Lady Havoc?

tfw trannies make better maps than you

>>7359804
Right? It's like they're biologically superior or something...

>>7359513
darkplaces was a shit engine I dont know why fags used it in the first place.

>>7359802
The only thing killing the "community" is inaction from /vr/, and bitching about it in these threads, because new guys will come along and see
>Wow Quake is filled with trannies and drama? I'd rather just play something else
I'd like to try hosting a /vr/ Quake jam in about a month and a half since the HUH host disappeared. I'm new to Quake mapping myself, so it'd mostly be an exercise in strengthening /vr/'s solidarity and skill in Quake mapping. The HUH host mentioned using Quoth, but I think I'd like to start with id1 to really force creativeness out of participants. If that interests you, or any readers, that'd be the shit.
>Is that you Lady Havoc?
Fuck Darkplaces and fuck that faggot.

>>7359797
google up Fallout frontier mod release
laugh your ass off
the drama is still fresh

>>7359819
Good luck but it looks like you're too distracted to make anything worth playing.

>>7359819
No anon its a changing culture. Tomorrow is monday and its another day of pretending everything is fine.

>>7359652
First he shits on REKKR, then he hoards content because the suits at current id were "unhappy". What happened, Romero? What do you care if they are "unhappy" John, they're never going to work with you again anyway.

I mean I guess I understand why the lawyers at current id having a problem with someone who is now unrelated to their company in any way releasing their intellectual property but come on, it's unreleased stuff anyway.

>>7359630
DF2 was such shit.
I so hated the LOL HE NOW A JEWDI bullshit.
I hate jedi so much

>>7359823
Hence the month and a half buffer.

>>7359804
>>7359806
Nice try, Manrisa, Rachael and/or Major Arlene

>>7359821
ZuTheSkunk isn't a tranny though???

>>7359828
I think you underestimate suits.

>>7359830
Outcast is not perfection but kyle is really cool Jedi.

Better than anything made today including that pseudo souls jedi game with that boring ass ginger.

>>7359819
Geez Lady Havoc, fine I'll respect your pronouns.

>>7359834
Tremble at facts, schizo.

>>7359828
>shits on REKKR
[le citation needed]

"i_signalhandler: exiting on signal: signal 11"
How the fuck do I fix this?

>>7359838
ok I will be honest, Outcast I did like but thats because Raven made an effort to make Kyle not you typical head up your ass luke skywalker clone jedi. And it used the Quake 3 engine well and nothing felt janky. unlike DF2

>>7359845
Facts indeed. Trannies or not. Men are indeed still making the best maps.

>>7359845
Trannies are not genetically superior nor predisposed to creating better maps

>>7359848
Nevermind, it was duplicate textures

>>7359849
Kyle is just cool. Its the type of male main character you wont see anytime soon again. Not as abrasive as Han, not as archetypal hero as Luke. Just pure badass.

>>7359851
Well I guess that's true. Either way it's all men. Are there any prominent female mappers? Major Arlene is clearly a man.

>>7359741
>I don't care about quake
>HOWEVER

>>7359819
you're better off trying way later. i've never seen quake sentiments this negative before in these threads.

>>7359851
Something about a man who identifies as trans mapping circles around you really seems to make you seethe though. Neurosis usually is a sign that you got some shit to take care of, maybe you should face up to it.

https://gofile.io/d/Tmbwtt

ASCII DOOM TRUE ALPHA RELEASE

>ALL MONSTERS REPLACED
>ALL ITEM PICKUPS REPLACED
>RANDOM TEXTURE REPLACEMENTS
>(Weapons are still normal)