/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7348036
Pretty good game.

>>7348036
Good but overrated.

Tech demo that doesnt live up to its predecessor

Not retro, not good.

>>7348036
I liked it a lot back in the day but I think I only played it like 2 or maybe 3 times.

Got way more mileage out of HL1 and its mods.

>>7348036
I'm probably an old fart for not considering it retro. One hell of a game.
>>7348170
>Doesn't live up to its predecessor
I don't even think that's true but those are some huge shoes to fill. Anons call HL1 a tech demo as a hot take too, in both cases the engine outpaced the game, but that doesn't change how rock solid the actual game is.

>>7348036
Played in on release and was severely disappointed. I liked HL1

>>7348170
Consolefags call every game a tech demo because they're jealous.

>>7348053
>>7348170
>>7348241
What wasn't as good about it? I realize this is /vr/ and there is just more appeal to GoldSrc, but how was it actually worse?

>>7348253
Overly long and tedious vehicle sections

>>7348253
firefights with combine wasn't the same as firefights with the HECU grunts and the removal of xen aliens made encounters pretty repetitive

people get pretty filtered by the vehicle sections but they aren't that bad.

>>7348342
This especially when combined with the reduced weapon count.

>>7348230
>>7348246
>>7348253
oh my god guys.... i can't figure this puzzle out... what am I supposed to do??? im so intellectually challenged.....

>>7348352
Fine, that part actually was a physics demo. You can't say the entire game is like that though.

>>7348358
oh no techdemobros.....

>>7348036
There is a fuckin soiboy on the cover

Great. Has a lot of depth and hidden details everywhere so it does worldbuilding without text dumps. Even the "cutscenes" don't say a lot.

>techdemo
It's a buzzword that means a game had a new engine. Not even Doom 3 was "just" a techdemo.

>>7348352
considering the puzzles are >1% of the game, you might actually be intellectually challenged
>game was scrapped and redone just to show off physics puzzles
yer a dumbass

>>7349264
show your face

>>7348036
The gunplay still suffers from HL1's flawed system of unrewarding and bullet-spongy enemies, but the gravity gun more than makes up for it. The game managed to live up the the seemingly insurmountable hype/expectations in the end.

>>7349321
Ahh, there's no sound but you can hear it.

good environmental design (water hazard is still my top favorite)
combine as a whole is designed very well
combat is shit, though it's saved by gravity gun as other anons have said. but after nova prospekt, the game forces you to use regular weapons. earlier levels with more props and physics around are much more fun.
also they cut like half of the content before release.

>physics based game
>enemies don't react to getting shot

Not retro and terrible fucking gunplay

>>7348173
It's (unfortunately) retro now, retard. Check the pinned thread.
>>7348036
Mediocre game with a drab shitty color palette that everyone drools over for seemingly no reason, while HL1 was much more colorful and vivid with interesting environments. Gunplay is just as bad as HL1, nothing has really improved in that department. Overall more tedious, I could play through HL1 without feeling exhausted but HL2 has so many boring setpieces it's hard to keep interest. The only fun part of the game is Ravenholm when you can actually deal damage to enemies without pouring 20 bullets into them.
Overall, shitty overhyped game. Valve has made better games since then.

>>7350123
>Gunplay is just as bad as HL1, nothing has really improved in that department
it's worse actually, AI was worse somehow

>>7350129
You're probably right, the Combine do actually just stand there taking your entire magazine to the face without doing anything in return.

>>7348036
Absolute fucking dogshit. Gaydon Fagman is the word protagonist of all time. Half-Life killed the Golden Age of FPS which began in 1992 with the release of the shareware episode of Wolfenstein 3D and ended in 1998 with the release of Cringe-Life.

>>7348036
Absolute fucking dogshit. Gaydon Fagman is the worst protagonist of all time. Half-Life killed the Golden Age of FPS which began in 1992 with the release of the shareware episode of Wolfenstein 3D and ended in 1998 with the release of Cringe-Life.

>>7348036 (OP) #
Absolute fucking dogshit. Gaydon Fagman is the worst protagonist of all time. Half-Life killed the Golden Age of FPS which began in 1992 with the release of the shareware episode of Wolfenstein 3D and ended in November of 1998 with the release of Cringe-Life.

>>7348036
Peak atmospheric FPS. Best design, hands down.

Better than the extremely grossly overrated first game but still an overrated game that doesn’t deserve the praise

>>7350154
your meme will never catch on, alf.

I think it's not /vr/.

>>7348036
a pretty boring physics puzzle game with crappy shooting mechanics. beginning of the end times for gameplay.

>he's not a half life chad
pathetic

>>7348036
It's a shitty ass game.

>>7350154

>>7350735
your shitty larping got a thread deleted.
Hope you are proud.

>>7350739
I didn't make that thread
The Romero thread wasn't deleted I don't think
I wasn't there for it anyway

>>7350868
lies

>>7348036
I don't like it.

>>7348253
These are correct.
>>7348302
>>7348342
Also they insisted too much on the antlions and went overboard with the "playable cutscenes". Overall the game goes downhill after "We dont go to Ravenholm".

>>7348036
crap

>>7350739
That thread didn't even get deleted for that, it was for calling someone a tranny or something in a different thread but retarded jannies nuked all my posts.

Also all you retards were replying and acting like it was real so cope.

>>7350868
>>7350735
Here is that thread
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/7174976/#7175925

>>7350735

>>7348342
HECU grunts are way too tanks, used to make me seethe back in the day. Now though, playing the game in Hard feels right. HL2 is way too easy even on Hard. The first Half Life is like perfect difficulty on hard.

>>7348342
>people get pretty filtered by the vehicle sections but they aren't that bad.
Strange, the vehicle sections are my favorite parts of the game. Especially Highway 17, the whole thing is a post-apocalyptic road adventure with tons of stuff to explore on the way.

>>7350941
>standing there like a dumbass while some scientist talks to you is worst part of hl1
>they make it happen even more in hl2
legitimately what were they thinking?

Time to admit half life is a classic.

Not retro.

>>7348036
all FPS are shit

>>7351436
maybe pea-brain JRPGs are more up to speed with your autist brain then

>>7351452
a fps toddler has the balls to call anyone pea-brain, literally the lowest iq genre in entire gaming history

>>7351458
i'd like to see your sources

>>7350735
>still trying to deflect from Daikatana actually killing the FPS golden age

>>7351464
literally ask any inbred retard with low iq what are their favorite games, its always FPS shit, they are designed for dumb casuals and non gamers

>>7351719
the most sold rpg series is pokemon, made for kids, made for casuals

>>7348036
I played it recently without ever playing it on release. It felt to me like the early parts of the game were about showing off their object-grabbing and physics simulation systems, and they STARTED to use them for puzzles, but then gave up.

Then at the end you get your super gravity thing instead of weapon variety and it's like an enormously dumbed down extrapolation of the early physics introductions, which isn't a good thing at all.

Aside from that, I found it to be a fun and even pretty impressive FPS and the non-shooter parts weren't total agony like so many other games make mistakes with.

>>7348393
This isn't a puzzle, there's nothing else to do besides the plainly visible and obvious. What are you complaining about here?

>>7348253
story was kinda weird and hard to follow

>>7348036
Mediocre. Gunplay’s decent enough but the game was unengaging as a whole. The environmental design was bland generic Orwellian crap compared to the beta builds. Was pretty disappointed after playing the first HL, but looking back that game was merely okay.

>>7348036
It's honestly kind of shocking how much I dislike this game now compared to how much it impressed me when I first played it.
I remember being a kid and just being like OH MY GOD THE GRAPHICS, THE PHYSICS, AND IT ACTUALLY RUNS ON MY PC AT A GOOD FRAMERATE AND RESOLUTION
I remember doing dumb shit like picking up bricks to weigh down bathtubs and it blowing my goddamn 13 year old mind. Now if I played it as intended I'm sure I would just be mad that the game wants me to do something as inane as filling a bathtub with bricks to weigh it down.

Even as a kid I wasn't 100% in love with it though. I always thought most of the guns felt like absolute shit, the SMG and Gravity Gun are the only satisfying weapons to use. The AI is pants on head retarded, even N64 games like Perfect Dark had more fun enemies to fight. And I -NEVER- liked the unskippable cutscenes approach. Unskippable cutscenes are bad even in games with interesting and good stories, this game's story sucks outside the opening part in City 17. So yeah I think this game was just impressive on a technical level and not an actual game design level. Very fun speedrunning game though but skipping 90% of the game shouldn't count as enjoying the game.

imagine calling your game's making-of book "Raising the Bar" and your game is HL2 lol

within 2 years it was utterly eclipsed in quality by FEAR which was by a landslide the superior game

>>7348036
Deserving of its praise, still holds up.

The only Valve games I admire is the first Half-Life and Portal. Valve is grossly overrated even though their games have a lot of polish, mind you. I'm surprised more people don't accuse HL2 and Portal 2 of being soulless.

>>7348173
>Not retro
Dilate now, massive cunt.

>>7348036
It's trash.

Although to be honest I was never a fan of Valve or Gabe Newell.

>>7354390
Better than id garbage.

Only doomniggers and quaketrannies hate half life.

>>7355045
>Better than id garbage.
>shitting on some of the greatest FPS of all time to spite someone who doesn't like Gay-Life

>>7355118
Get better taste.
ROTT is garbage btw.

>>7354527
that's half life, not half life 2, mong

>>7355105
>i watched civvies videos and now i think they were ever at war

>>7355130
HL is good, cope.

>>7350317
It's not a meme and never was. It's the truth.

>>7355147
Doomfags laughed at you

>>7355138
I know it's good faggot, I didn't say t was bad, This entire new war is only due to zoomies watching civvies videos and trying to instigate shit.

>>7355148
What Doomfags? The trannys at Doomworld? Oh no, what ever shall I do, I went there to bait them and they discussed it for 3 pages and then banned me, noooooo how will I ever recover?

>>7355152
>damage control

>>7355157
Go back and look, I literally said in /doom/ I was going there to troll and get banned. They posted screenshots of that in the doomworld thread. Cope faggot.

7355160
Denial

>>7348036
a game that makes you feel smart

>>7348253
I don't think you know what the term "puzzle" means

>>7355127
Of course, City 17 in HL1, how could anyone forget.

>>7355127
Di
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>>7348036
Great game like the rest of the series except Blue Shift, Decay and EP1.

Ahem fuck alf fuck rott
long live half life

>>7355956
I keep seeing this here. Who is this alf people speak of?

>>7355980
https://archive.is/h0d0r
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>>7348036
One of the best games of all time. It changed the PC modding scene as hl1 did. Thanks to Gmod and the Quake 1 engine never fucking dying. TOWER OF DUCKTAPE

Played it for the first time in 2007 in the orange box.
Got somewhere to the fanboat part and quit.
So that was probably 1 play session and I dropped it after that.
Never understood the hype. It's not like the weapons are super cool, there were way WAY better vehicle combat games, what was it? Starts with 'H'...

>>7356056
Just read the story too since I had no idea what was going on in the game.
It's retarded. If something has dominated universes then it won't have a problem subjugating Earth because of a few ground troops.
I don't know why an alien that can span multiple parallel universes needs to absorb bio mass in the first place.
Just like X-com. After you've played something like Stellaris, a single planet empire that has exactly 0 space capable weapons cannot fight even a small corvet from an alien species. The technology they have that are required for space travel alone put them heads and tails above unarmored resistance fighters.

I sincerely doubt this game holds up. There is no Half-life 3. Doom and Doom Eternal gave the single player FPS their revival. Nobody wants to play a heady shooter with as much dialog as Fallout and none of the RPG with weapons as exciting as Pistol, machine gun, and hey, you know how you can pick things up with 'x' in every unity game? Well we have a gun that does that!

I want to find a version for PC that doesn't require steam. Then I'd play it again.

>>7348036
>what does /vr/ think of this?
Overrated doshit that ruined FPS for an entire generation.

>>7354178
Pretty much mirrors my experience. I was hyped for this game like no other when I heard it was coming to OG Xbox (as my home computer were far below the specs). Once I finally got it (and got over the performance) I had the same doubts about the guns, the linearity, the vehicles, and especially the enemies (as they're nowhere near as smart in the E3 reveal). Even after finishing it I was underwhelmed and over time I realized it sucked dick.

half life filters /v/ faggots

>HALF LIFE BAD ME LOVE DOOM

>>7356573
False flag, it's salty Sonic fans. >>7356378

I like it overall but Valve's idea of in-game cutscenes is fucking annoying. I'd rather just have a skippable FMV than have to spend 5 minutes standing around like an awkward child while NPCs talk to each other and look at me sometimes. I can't believe they got praise for that shit.

>>7348036
It's good, just not great.