/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7345484
>first console was nes and smb/duck hunt
>still have ps1 aesthetic as my favorite
Some people like it. It's been getting a lot of attention lately too. Might be the new indie meme.

>>7345484
>an era of god tier pixel art
But there was no other choice. What you see as "god-tier" was the same old thing over and over (beautiful, but flat and very limited). Early 3D was mind-blowing with its infinite possibilities, its new applications and fluid animation.

And yes, Ridge Racer looked better than Super Monaco GP.

>>7345494
Also, as soon as 1994, 3D looked really good:

https://youtu.be/GOvly3tXakY

This still looks fine in 2021.

>>7345484
For reference, this is what you call "god tier pixel art" in the FF game just before FF7.

Cloud looks better in the OP.

>>7345521
This.

Pixel art in JRPGs looked and will always look like shit.

>boomers
why are children on this site?
why are you on this board specifically?

Because the industry didn't want to repeat the same 2D games for a generation and explore the 3D space.

>>7345538
Anyone older than you is a boomer, anyone younger is a zoomer.

>>7345484
I was like ten years old when the first 3D consoles were a thing, gimme a break. Were all the decisions you made when you were ten completely reasoned and rational, zoomie? You just wanted whatever the new popular toy you saw all the ads for.

>>7345548
>>7345554
but it looks like vomit. its literally unplayable

>>7345484
How would 3d graphics develop if they never made it? If they werent selling ps1 3d games then they wouldnt be randomly developing a technology that wasnt makong money.

>>7345565
>How would 3d graphics develop if they never made it?

>>7345560
But at the time it was novel and something you had never seen before. It was actually a great experience and that's why people get nostalgia for it despite it looking like shit in retrospective. I don't expect a zoomer to understand this though.

>>7345568
What about the controls? It took several years to introduce analog sticks because it appeared that it was better for 3D.

Just imagine PS2 games with wonky tank controls.

>>7345574
It doesn't look like shit in retrospect. Just as you can't judge it based off of hi res emulated you can't judge it off blurry shitty pics on hd screens. We knew even back then if a game looked shitty.

>you insisted on spending your money on dogshit early 2d graphics instead of playing board games?

>Wouldnt it make more sense if the market waited until games 2d graphics had advanced to SNES tier sprites lol

>>7345574
>But at the time it was novel and something you had never seen before
So was this (pic). But it was obviously inferior graphic wise, so it was just a one off experiment and nothing more.

>>7345578
analog sticks are nothing more than mini joysticks for your thumbs

>>7345590
unironically yes. The atari fucking sucked balls. My dad had friends in college who owned atari and he thought it was shittiest thing in the world and preferred the arcades. He waited until 16 bits until he invested in home gaming

>>7345601
>So was this (pic).
forgot my image. The point is that it was a game trying to implement hand drawn animation into gaming. It seemed like the future, but no gaming system could ever handle it. It wasnt until way later did hand drawn graphics took off

>>7345601
Atari was better than nothing, it was either that or unironically playing with sticks and paper clips in your bedroom. Or with a tennis ball that you would bounce on a wall. That's it.

You zoomers don't seem to realize that there was no choice. There was nothing else. And no Internet to provide you endless entertainment either. It's too easy to disparage Atari graphics when you now have the choice to play a million good-looking things for free.

>>7345484
You lived in an era of god tier horse drawn carriages. Some of the best carriages in the world that have never been topped to this day. Yet, you insisted on spending your money on dogshit early automobiles? What boomer looked at something like this and said
>oh yeah, this is miles better than (insert classic stagecoach here)

Wouldn't it make more sense if the market waited until automobiles had advanced to Honda Civic levels instead of settling with this?

>>7345620
You used board games in your example here >>7345590 but now youre insisting on it being sticks and rocks? And this ignores tv, comic books, and the fact that people were way more sociable back in the day.
And the Atari was shit and the world was ready to move on from home video games as a whole; thats what the video game crash of 1983 was about.

>>7345648
Nice meme, but you are forgetting that automobiles were around since the 1700s. Look up Steam Engine cars and tractors. The general public did not settle for steam powered shit, even though it was the future

The out-of-battle character models look retarded in FF7, but imo its always been more about the world around the player when it comes to 5th gen FF

>>7345484
Clearly the no.1 thing you don't understand about boomers is how old they are. No 40yo in the 90's ever ever said that looks good. Your 40yo manchild soiboi dad might say that now but no boomer ever did.

>>7345681
Board games are nice when you've got other people around, you genius. Now try being an only child in the 80s, alone at home, with no video games. Now all you have is trying to invent shitty card games with paper clips or whatever. Or reread the same comics you've already read. Or draw video games pictures, while imagining that's the real thing.

>this ignores tv, comic books, and the fact that people were way more sociable back in the day
Only one TV in the household, too bad that your parents are already watching it and the program is shit (which was also problematic if you had video games btw)! Comics, yeah, but you had always the same ones or have to pay new ones with money (which is scarce for a 8-year-old). Sociable people? Maybe... if you're allowed to go out.

Life was shit and boring, everything was costing money you just didn't have, and having just one console with one good game or two changed everything. Even a shitty console opened a world of endless fun compared to... nothing at all.

>>7345807
>I never went outside my house
No wonder you're socially stunted

>>7345836
>he forgot that it's not always possible or allowed to go out as a child

>>7345691
Ie good-looking 2D art

>>7345681
>Steam Engine cars and tractors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_tractor
>Turns out that SteamPunk actually had alot basis in reality afterall...

>>7345843
I think you just had helicopter parents because I grew up going outside whenever I wanted and the kids I knew were the same

>>7345484
>One thing i dont understand about zoomers
ftfy and why do they exist?

>>7345560
For a zoomie with weak genetics it is.

>>7345484
The first progress into 3D was mindblowing back then. I don't expect a child raised on billions of polygons to understand the breach into 3D games.

>>7345484
Zoomers will never understand how revolutionary it was to run around in 3D space and INTO the backgrounds.
Kinda sad only our generation will have had that kind of experience and wow factor. Closest xoomers might get now is experiencing VR for the first time.

>>7345484
How do you expect it to advance straight to gamecube graphics? You dont go from saying goo goo ga ga to the next day giving a valedictorian speech.

Progress is a thing that takes time.

Maybe... it was about the gameplay?

More advance consoles offered more advance game capabilities. We’re at the point of diminishing returns with consoles right now, but the jump between the SNES and the PlayStation was tremendous as far game complexity went. Look at Star Ocean vs Star Ocean 2.

>>7345484
You do realise people just bought what was available at the time right?

>>7346316
That's horseshit, anon. People were psyched for 3D games when they were new. So much so that 2D had trouble competing at the time.

>>7345484
3D > 2D

>>7345484
As a kid, I thought the fmv in ffvii looked like real life. Even the in game graphics seemed mind blowing at the time. Before that, the closest I got to 3d graphics was starfox on the snes. You had to be there, I guess

>>7345484

Who says we didn't buy both you absolute gay nigger zoomer tranny

32bit 3D era > 16bit 2D era

>>7346323
I never said that wasn't the case?

>>7346341
OP's (ill founded) argument is that people willingly chose blocky 3D over beautiful 2D, and you played it as if people had no preference and just consumed what was handed to them. That's not the case at all, and people were amazed by early 3D and flocked to it.

What could your point have been if not "it's all the same to consumers?"

>>7346350
tl;dr I'm not that invested in this.

>>7346358
Goddamn you are ADHD if you can't read 3 sentences. But I know you just fucked up and need to backpedal, so whatever.

>>7346334
>You had to be there, I guess

Exactly. You have to step into the shoes of someone from the time and imagine the standard of what was possible. I loved and still love my SNES, it's my all time favourite console. But the first time I saw Ridge Racer running on a PlayStation, it looked like god damn witchcraft. I couldn't believe it was possible on home hardware. It looks basic as shit now, but at the time it was light years ahead of something like Star Fox, which I thought was hot shit at the time. It's all relative.

>>7346350

OP's 'argument' is "I'm a proto-zoomer from the future and I've seen how much better Gamecube games look than PSone games, so I'll wait for those instead."

Which is deeply retarded.

>>7346381
>OP's 'argument' is "I'm a proto-zoomer from the future and I've seen how much better Gamecube games look than PSone games, so I'll wait for those instead."
Trust me, I get that he's retarded. That's why I threw in that "ill founded" jab.

cuz pixel art is shit, for the most part
you only get 'god tier' pixel art in beat em ups/fighters

>>7345487
>Might be the new indie meme

And that's a good thing! No, seriously, I love the low poly low res aesthetic and I am all for indies doing more with it

>>7346389
>in beat em ups/fighters
Which are also the two worst 'video game' genres. Funny how that works

>>7345484
Gen 5 captures the simplicity of cartoons. Remember how many cartoons got fucked by stupid CG remakes? It's the same with Gen 5 graphics: Their aesthetics work perfectly with exactly the style they are presented in. Any more detail and it looks like shit. Both FF7 and OoT are very simple but leave just enough to your imagination to turn it into something modern graphics cannot achieve.

>>7345845
Yes

>>7345484
At first people thought moving into a more 3d world would be like those super scaler games such as thunderblade and later power drift. Early stuff like ultima underworld didn't convince many people to move from the 16 bit consoles. People really wanted 3d when doom came out, that had 2d pixel art and 3d without the glitchy polygons, people thought all 3d games would be like that and by the time ps1 was out it was too late. Wierd how pc started the 3d trend but it was the platform that 2d and 2.5d games continued to be the most popular.

And by the way ps1 was something like 4th generation 3d. People did mostly shun 3d in preference to 2d on console and pc including amiga when finally ps1 was the first console to reach an acceptable level.

>>7345484
the zoomer hipster striked again, look at him with his borrowed nostalgia and his purity sperging about an era of games that happened before he was even born

>I am 13 but i listed to Gun and roses and play nintendo, i am not like other kids jijijiji

>>7346547
But he reverts back to ultra-modern games at any time, so he will never understand what it's like to be stuck with SNES graphics with no other choice, and how 3D felt supernatural when it landed.

>>7346574
This.

>>7345807
>Life was shit and boring
Sucks to be you I guess
My main hobbies in the 80s were TV cartoons, dial-up BBS, programming my own games on our Atari 800, and reading sci-fi and fantasy novels from the library

>>7345484
Its not like any of the FFs had decent pixel art, they where all pretty rough compared to most the games on the snes.

>>7345484
"pixel art" is an invention from the 00's. No one reffered to 2D graphics as "pixel art" and appreciated the way people appreciate 2D today.

Also nice cherry pic. Despite the block field models, FF7 was still an extremely impressive game back then. The backgrounds were top notch as well as the CG scenes and 3D during battles.

>>7345691
>out-of-battle character models look retarded in FF7

last time i played it, used a mod the swap the battle models into the rest of the game. looked fine really

cant even find that mod now

>>7345484
Zoomers will never understand that new generations of consoles used to bring new experiences that weren't possible before. The future is dim for consoles and Zoomers alike.

>>7345484
I weren't, and am still not, a graphics fag

>>7345560

THAT looks like garbage because it was made by Europeans. Some of the Japanese stuff looked like garbage (see Cloud above), and some, like Mario 64, looked charming.

Personally I was amazed by 3D animation at the time. I still preferred 2D stuff but we weren't used to full 3D computer animation in games on a home screen. It was really special. Today it's 100% normal; people generally carry screens capable of doing this in their pockets. So the superiority of the 2D graphics to at least early 3D graphics is much easier to see. But back then 3D graphics had novelty and novelty is a huge deal to kids.

But yeah 2D graphics were and are better, except where a game's design actually demands 3D graphics.

>>7347040

Oh and another important point is that WE WERE NOT CHOOSING WHAT GOT MANUFACTURED. If I loved every Final Fantasy game I'd ever gotten my hands on and then that monstrosity came out and I happened to have access to a PlayStation, what was I gonna do, not play this new game I'd probably love? Should a teenage boy in that situation fly to Japan, handcuff himself to a streetlight outside Square's headquarters, and begin a hunger strike in support of a new 2D Final Fantasy game? I mean yeah customers were powerful as a crowd, and the crowd did vote with its dollars in favor of the novelty and spectacle of 3D graphics... but sometimes some kids did experience something that you would probably consider to be good taste, and yet those individuals were powerless to force good games to be made. The market moved on, for better or for worse.

>>7345691

That image is obviously nicer-looking than OP's Cloud is, but it still looks like clumsy old-timey 3D stuff, all shiny and cluttered and artificial. A SNES version of that scene would look better. Even that background is a step backward. It's like how game music suddenly became superficially richer, and thus more cluttered and generic and bland, once disc-based storage became available to developers. I mean they COULD have put the best music possible into that audio storage space, but they usually didn't. They tarted everything up with extra noise, just like the artists who made that image did. For the first time the hardware was more powerful than most of the artists were talented, and the result was a lot of blandness that had been filtered out in the past.

>>7345502

Nowadays it looks better than ever for me. I love these Sega Model 2 aesthetics so much.

You lived in an era of 3d. Some of the best 3d art in the world that has never been topped to this day. Yet, you insisted on spending your money on more 3d? What zoomer looked at something like VR and said
>oh yeah, a new call of duty is coming out no thanks

Wouldnt it make more sense if you tried something new?

>>7345484
It had to start somewhere, you fucking retard. It looked good at the time anyway because there was nothing else to compare it to. Not like now where you can look at a Mario 64 model and compare it with a Mario Galaxy model.

>>7345484
>prefering Pixelshit over early 3D 5th gen aesthetic

i will personally put you in jail

>>7346417
Die

>>7347468
He does not actually prefer the pixel art, he is just recycling contrarian opinions from his favorite utubber because he thinks it makes him intelligent and cultured (or just trolling).

>>7346903
>No one (...) appreciated the way people appreciate 2D today
I don't agree desu, good 2D was already loved for its artistic value, because we only had to compare, say, Sonic or Samurai Shodown with Atari 2600 or even NES games.

>boomers
Boomers were born in the 40s and 50s, kid. They didn't grow up in the videogame age at all.
WE ARE CALLED GENERATION X.
This is why I call you the Dumbest Generation.

>>7348202
ok boomer

>>7348202
shut the fuck up idiot, meanings change.
if you haven't kept up it's not other people who are wrong

>>7348941
>a few dumb zoomies using a word wrong means the meaning has changed
That's not the way it works snowflake. Your mommy lied to you.

>>7346903
>pixels weren't called pixels
maybe zoom back to le reddit, kiddo

>>7345560
I found this impressive as a kid and I still do. One of the best looking models in the 5th gen
>>7347040
I'm okay with people disagreeing but
>because it was made by Europeans
is just pure cope and rent free. Can't you come up with better reasons?

>>7345484
>>7347057

>>7345691
Damn these BGs still look great today.
I wish Square kept the original 3D files so we'd have proper HD remasters

>>7345484
>Wouldnt it make more sense if the market waited

Pure reddït understanding of capitalism

>>7345648
this is unironically the plot of The Magnificent Ambersons
https://youtu.be/dUbNFv_h6Kc
https://youtu.be/vA1fVHBWuBU

>>7346574

This, good post

>>7345484
agreed with the first part but all 3D is garbage, it's absolutely useless and fucking ugly.

>>7346547
>>7346574
OP slapped with a drippin dead fish

>>7345484
because 3D was fucking new and progress. It was the biggest leap forward in the history of video games and it will never be replicated again. Anything 2D wasn't trying to be cutting edge, wasn't trying to push the envelope, and also wasn't high budget.

This thread reminded me of a blog post I read about Final Fantasy VII a decade or so ago that sums up the advantage of 3D polygons over sprites well.

>>7351393
A zoomer said this, you just know

>3D was new and mind-blowing!
Feels weird when people say this because 3D was around from the beginning; it just slowly got better over the years. It wasn't like 3D games didn't exist before playstation, and arcade games already had better 3D than the ps1 when the ps1 came out.
And before that we had more primitive 3D arcade games like Stun Runner and Hard Drivin and such, and go back further and you had those low-FPS computer games like Arctic Fox

I am not even going to dignify that with a direct response. We move on and forward. No discussion.

t. gen x game developer

>>7351427
I assume that's meant to compare ease of development rather than the expressive capability of 2D, 'cause you can always make specialty sprites, face portraits, full-screen illustrations & animation, etc. if you want to.

>>7346574
Best post here so far. So true it hurts.

>>7351758
Sculptures and dioramas don't make oil painting obsolete.

>>7347078
Oh bitch bitch bitch

>>7345484
i hated the transition to 3d. i still do, but, i used to too.

>>7345691
>Alias/PA renderings
still glorious stuff my man

>>7351761
Sprites are SUPER heavy on storage space compared to 3D models. Most late 90s arcade fighting games struggled to fit all of the sprites into the storage that was available at the time (Darkstalkers 3 being a good example of a game that just outright ran out of space and that was an arcade game running on way better hardware than was available to consumers at the time). You theoretically COULD make highly detailed sprites for every single scene, but that would balloon the already ridiculous filesizes completely out of control. Final Fantasy VII is already VII discs. Imagine how much bigger it would have been if it had to have huge sheets of 2D sprites for every character, enemy, and frame of animation.

>>7351821
That should say 3 discs. I'm tired.

>>7345484
It's almost like people are nostalgic for whatever they played during their formative years

>>7351427
Sprites could achieve the same results, it just so happens early FF sprites are too fucking small to communicate anything effectively.

>>7351913
They barely managed to fit FF6 onto the cartridge. Bigger sprites would have had to be even less expressive.

>>7352015
Not to mention that it takes way more time to create those bigger sprites.

>>7352015
Then why did Chrono Trigger do it so easily just one year later, from the same company no less?

>>7345681
>steam engines
okay you're not wrong but OP is still a retard

>>7348941
up past your bedtime once again

>>7346893
>1 of those "hobbies" is just talking to people and 2 of those are consooming
Wew lad

>>7345807
>Life was shit and boring
Despite the relative material wealth I have now, I was WAY happier during the 90s.
I'd kill myself, but I got a family to feed.

>>7345484
You just can't understand if you didn't grow up during that era. To people like me who grew up with CGA graphics all this upcoming 3D was like black magic and alien tech.

>>7345484
>boomers
...never played videogames. They watched TV all day long.

>>7345502
>not using based Lion
Cuck

>>7345484
>Yet, you insisted on spending your money

Most of us on here today had our parents buying us our games idiot. Also 3D was novel at the time so of course people wanted to get in on it. Me though I wasn't a faggot. I liked all types of games. Too bad though that 2D games were still being held back by the arcade mentality so they were harder to beat due to limited lives and continues.

In hindsight I'd want to go back and see an even bigger 3rd and 4th gen era with more games and more competition for each. I'd also change 5th gen into being another 2D gen or maybe just the Saturn and the Saturn would have sold really well being a solid 2nd console next to your 3D PS or N64.

>>7352382
Chrono Trigger was a significantly shorter game with less assets. Final Fantasy VI was really, really pushing the limit for an SNES game.

>>7345484
>Yet, you insisted on
??????????

>>7351785
based and mitchhedbergpilled

>>7349093
Yeah words never change meaning have a great gay day!!

>>7345521
>>7345525

But it looks great though.

>>7353558
t. Boomer

>>7353563
Banned from /v/ again zoom?

>>7353569
I think there was a ban wave an hour ago, this board just turned to shit right then, 3 or 4 of them shitting up the board.

>>7353557
>yeah reading comprehension doesn't mean reading comprehension
Get a load of this zoomie

>>7348202
Boomer refers to 30 year old boomers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmNkJ40nsBc

>>7353558
i think it looks great too, but i didnt speak up because i thought i had shit taste.
Seriously, what is wrong with her sprite?

>>7345484
Some of the games did look like dogshit but you cannot fathom what it was like to have 3D movement in a game for the first time. It's like a blind person being able to see for the first time in his life.

>>7347078
What a load of bullshit. There are no snes rpgs with better scenery than the backgrounds in final fantasy 7. Say what you will about the 3d models though.

>>7345521
BOOBA

>>7351427
While this post makes totally valid arguments that I agree with, I'm currently replaying FFVI and I'm surprised at how well these simple sprites convey emotions: the thing these pics don't show is the way the scenes are played with the way they move and animate. For comparison I thought the models in FFVII were less expressive.

I feel a bit the same way with the original MGS: the models have litterally no faces, but the animation and directing made the scenes so much better than a some more detailed CG scenes

>>7345484
You don’t understand because you’re an idiot zoomer. That old 3D looks like shit now, but it was next gen hot shit back in the day. It was like living in the fucking future. And it opened up brand new ways of playing that literally didn’t exist before.

It was shilled to hell and back. The success of 3D was 100% built on social pressure and the end result is what you have today: games do not matter at all any more, it's their sOcIaL sIgNiFiCaNcE

>>7349716
is pic related pixel art on account of being made up of pixels?

>>7345538
It’s all just buzzwords that are used purely to insult someone else

>>7345691
Only the industrial backgrounds really looked great, a lot of them were meh.

>>7354345

>>7354351

>>7345484
Without people experimenting with 3D in those PS1 and N64 games, how would you expect them to learn anything? They were necessary back then for developers to ready themselves before better hardware came.

>>7354345
cope zoomer pisshead

Wow, zoomers actually think today’s current technology and game design was just pulled out of someone’s pocket and not built on the back of decades of research, iteration, experimenting, success, and failure. Your whole generation is even more idiotic than boomers give you credit for.

>>7345484
>boomers
>the market waited

>>7345484
You do not understand (and never will)

>>7348202
dangerously based post

>>7348202
/thread

40 yo boomer here. 5th gen was garbage and still isn't and never will be retro.

>>7355086
LARP

>>7354541
>Your whole generation is even more idiotic than boomers give you credit for.
if youre not a boomer or a zoomer, then what are you?

>>7355141
Someone who doesn't stick random meme labels on people

>>7345484
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>>7355128
>everyone's a zoomer like me

>>7355281
see
>>7355270

>>7355281
Time for your brain medicine gramps

>>7345484
We weren't obsessed with graffics.
Games were either good or not: often working or broken shit.

>>7348202
Boomerang generation != baby boomers
get cultured

>>7356171
get fucked

>>7345484
soul comes from limitation, early 3d graphics are "bad" but they are charming as fuck

this comes from a pixel art faggot

>>7345484
it didnt look that bad on native resolution and it looked quite good compared to most ps1 rpgs of the time. When you factor in the beautiful backgrounds and overall art direction it was one of the best looking ps1 games.

>>7345484
firstly industry drives itself to a large degree, it's not solely what people want
secondly polygonal graphics had to start somewhere

>>7351770
Sculpture is older than oil painting.

>>7346340
RE1 remake is a thousand times better than that moldy piece of shit they released back in 19balls. It did good for the time but you'd have to be a negro to prefer the older one. Still, the character art was great

>>7345560
"Literally unplayable" isn't a reason or argument, nigger

>>7351427
FF6 spites could wave their fingers.
>could wave their fingers.
>their fingers.
>fingers.

>>7357753
nice

>>7355086

Fuck off you lying little shit

Real 45 yo here. PSX/Saturn/N64 was god's gift to gaming.

>>7357589

They're both fantastic. But the original is slightly better.

>>7345484
not every 3d game had retarded looking models like ff7

>>7355086
>>7358170
Now now children. No need to fight like a couple little zoomies.

>>7345560
Wrong. It's playable.

>>7352939
You mean "fewer" assets. Chrono Trigger >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Final Fantasy VI anyway. Random encounters = bad game. Mother 1 < Mother 2 < Mother 3. (esp. the soundtrack).

Chrono Trigger is the best SNES game actually. Super Mario RPG is great, so is Super Metroid. Though I've only beaten Super Metroid once, I did Metroid Prime twice, fully once, and MP2 and MP3 fully. Prime is better than Super.

>>7345484
I'm 29 and I generally like early 3D better than pixel art (the best PC-98 pixel art is on par with it though). Maybe I'm not old enough to fit your definition of "boomer". I pretty much grew up with both 2D and 3D, my earliest childhood memories involved both of them, but the early 3D stuff still feels a lot more nostalgic and comfy to me.

>>7345560
You are a gigantic faggot

>>7345484
It was a novely. Also both 3D and 2D has it's own perks as an art style.

>>7352939
>random encounters bad
Go fuck yourself and get off my board, you crybaby faggot. The only RPGs worth playing, aside from maybe CT have random battles. Evidence: DQ games went to shit when they departed from random battles.

>>7353663
If you’re not at least 30, what are you even doing here?

>>7355270
Actually 3rd gen was best...

>>7358696
Considering that 6th gen is allowed here now. Someone could have easily been born in 1995 or later and consider 6th gen to be their first gen.
There were also a lot of poorer families whose only console was a SNES or Genesis all through the 90s.

>>7358691
That's a bit rude. Chrono Trigger is the best RPG, actually.

>>7345484
N64 graphics are incredibly aesthetic and beautiful you blind idiot. Nintendo waited so they could make actually good 3D graphics.

There was also obviously the novelty aspect of it. The big question is why did sixth, seventh + generation not go back to do god tier pixel art, nothing stopping them doing it you fucking retard.

I don't know about you, but I never bought games because of graphics. 3D or pixel art whatever. I buy games because I want to play them, not judge their looks

>>7346901
Wrong. The backgrounds and landscapes in FF6 are the best looking pieces of art on the system