/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7344197
people who emulate dreamcast unironically mostly use it to run more refined ports of psx and n64 games, like Shadow man, tony hawk , Soul reaver and rayman 2, speaks a lot about how weak the dreamcast really was than 5th gen games were some of teh most remembered on a 6th gen platform

>>7344197
Most people didn't own one as a kid so its like finding something new for the first time. It just takes getting your hands on a console and some CD-Rs.

Buying this console used to be dirt cheap at one point before it got a lot of hype.

Marvel vs Capcom 2

>>7344197
>the Sonic Adventures, have better ports to other platforms
The SA port arguably has harmed the reputation of it in the long run because of so many people playing ports of ports of ports where a shit ton of bugs get created everytime its on something new. Some of its most famous bugs just don't exist in the first one but no one realizes that because they have never played the original version.

Part of it is definitely aesthetic, late 90's specifically, it definitely got hyped up by people who didn't own one or people who love vaporwave shit a bit too much lately, but the 90's are also just back in general

>>7344260
To be fair the games also just fucking suck, both Adventure games are mediocre at best and that's being pretty generous

>>7344197
>buying the ps2 and gc, platforms full of shitware, when you can get all the good games on dc
It's time for the little kiddies to go to bed and let adults talk. DC was the last good console, period. Just because it was before your time/mommy wouldn't buy it for you/mommy couldn't afford it doesn't make it bad.

>>7344197
Sega really ruined their deal with 3dfx and wasted lots of money on parallel development, lawsuits, and a CPU and GPU plagued with manufacturing problems. All for political reasons. It was clear they didn't really care about 3rd party devs either. But if you're a sega simp, its a decent console to own I guess.

>>7344293
>he got scammed and got a dreamcast instead of PS2
The sad life of the sega dicksucker

>>7344259
>capeshit vs capcoom 2: electric jiggaboo

>>7344293
>DC
>good games
pick one

>>7344302
I had a PS2. The goddamn thing collected dust while I still play DC games. It was full of garbage fucking pseudo-games. It was the last console I ever got because I found out that people actually liked shit style-over-substance pseudo-games instead of actual games like Saturn and DC had and just started playing old games instead.
Of course, you fucking /v/kiddies who should stay on your board full of /tv/ "games" would come to /vr/ and fuck it over. Go away.

>>7344259
Ports of arcade fighting games to home consoles usually suck, and are often too different from the arcade originals to be used for practice or competitive play.
MvC2 for the DC is one of the only exceptions, given the similarity of the DC to the Naomi (which MvC2 was developed for).
But overall, people citing ports of SFA3, SF3S, etc. for why the DC was so great are just undermining their case.

How good is gdemu?

The only Dreamcast port than I could imagine people emulating on other systems is Skies of Arcadia because they supposedly added some things. GameCube Sonic Adventures was universally panned and there were other PS2 ports that could have been much better.

>>7344335
Imagine larping this hard just to justify making a stupid decision 20 years ago.

>Saturn and DC
>got scammed by Sega twice
oh no no no no hahahaha

>>7344197
Why do poorfags who can't afford a cheap old toy seethe and shitpost?

>>7344197
Plug and play with the added bonus of piracy being easy as shit. Once you've got a dreamcast you can immediately start playing the whole library once you get some CD-Rs. Plus is a nice looking console with a great aesthetic.

>>7344341
>similarity of the DC to the Naomi
It's shame the DC was decided to be released with inferior hardware instead of having arcade perfect ports. We were stuck with a downgraded arcade machine from a dying company with shit leadership.

>>7344335
Same experience. Zoomer snoytrannies and nintendykes really wont understand, but try to imagine this...

It's the year 2000, almost 2001. You have a DC and by this point you have a shit ton of excellent games that look better than anything on other consoles by a mile. You buy a PS2 shortly after its release date anyway even though it practically has nothing worth playing, but you see the writing on the wall for Sega and hope that the PS2 at least has some good games relatively soon. You turn on the PS2 to play the 1 - 2 mediocre games you have, but it all looks like shit, a clear graphical step down. Doesn't even look as good as the DC's release games. But this isn't the only problem, because it's also a fucking blurry washed-out looking mess (no chad UK SCART or VGA output like the DC has). Everything on PS2 looks awful by default. What is this composite fucking shite? Am i in a fucking 3rd world country all of a sudden?! There's literally no way to fix it. Nothing you can do. Your nice TV and monitor are essentially useless.

So you try hard to ignore this absolutely fucking gigantic downgrade in image quality and focus on waiting for some actual good games to appear... An entire year passes and there's still barely anything worth playing. Almost every PS2 game feels like an empty throw-away type of game that's only good for renting at best. As anon already put it - style over substance. They're all so hollow., and you eventually start to feel empty. Are you just getting too old or are these games just shit? Meanwhile you still have your DC so you go back to playing that and realise that yes, the new PS2 games really are just shit. They're like empty husks. You then go back to playing older consoles, and yep it's 100% confirmed now, it really is just the shitty PS2. So your PS2 then collects dust over many years and is literally never used again. At this point i entirely went over to PC for new games. Consoles were dead to me.

>>7344413
zoom zoom >>>/v/

OP confirmed for underage. you weren't there so you don't understand. It actually makes me sad to think of parting with my dreamcast even if I barely play it these days. so many good times with friends playing power stone, jet grind radio, crazy taxi, 3rd strike, etcetc. Just burning CD-R after CD-R, it was a must have back in the day

>>7344281

Someone please explain why the actual fuck Bomberman Online was never released in Japan.

>>7344293
I kind of agree with you, but Dreamcast launched at 199 while ps2 was 299

>>7344197
Go back to "enjoying" your Shiturn, faggot.

>>7344747
Dreamcast sucks dude. You picked the wrong fucking console.

>>7344747
Lmao do segatrannies really

>>7344747
What you're saying, even if true, was only true initially.
Sony hyped up its "Emotion Engine" to convince gamers to wait for the PS2 and skip the DC, and it worked.
The PS2 eventually got better games, and the great DC exclusives were ported (to the PS2, XB, or GC).

>>7345774
>Sony hyped up its "Emotion Engine"
For the zoom-zooms: this was hyped to high heaven.
People actually thought, because of Sony's propaganda, that the PS2 "Emotion Engine" was going to be so revolutionary that the in-game graphics were going to look like the cutscenes Sony demoed.
Instead, the PS2 wasn't even better than good gaming PCs.

>>7344747
I had exactly the same experience here, but I didn't even bother buying the PS2.

I played the PS2 at my friends' house and was unimpressed by the graphics and the gameplay of all these games. It was just really the PS1 games I already had (another Tekken, etc.), but with graphics that were worse than my Dreamcast's. Not worth it.

>>7344747
>They're all so hollow., and you eventually start to feel empty. Are you just getting too old or are these games just shit?

Also this is 100% what I felt too. And I was a Sonygger given that I had the PS1; I was not even hating. I just felt empty and even lonely in front of these "new" PS2 games, as I didn't understand why my friends were so thrilled about it.

If you think we're just oldfags memeing about the superior quality of DC's graphics compared to PS2, watch this side-to-side comparison of the same game:

https://youtu.be/j2T4yokJUbs

It looks like shit on PS2, it's almost comical, while the DC is pristine.

>my nostalgia is better than your nostalgia
cool thread

The game library is very good. If you had one at the time you basically had the best games and graphics and music at the time.

Also There were less than 300 games made for the US market so it's not too hard to collect the library.

>>7344197
>Why do /vr/anians still collect/emu the Chadcast?
ftfy, and because it was great, better than the PS2 ever was

>>7345882
>cool board

>>7345856
DCfag cope is what's comical

>>7346725
>indisputable facts are cope

>>7345839
>I-i-t is not Sonic, no "insert coin for second player" on the corner. How could this possibly be???

>>7344197
Deadcast did no ports it wuz all organ donate

>>7344197
>Even Sega's own flagship games, the Sonic Adventures, have better ports to other platforms.
Except that's wrong, you fucking retard.
https://dreamcastify.unreliable.network/

>>7345839
>>7345806
>>7344824
>>7344747
>>7344335

I'm always glad to see so much DC love, it seems like everybody that played it when it was new fell in love with it permanently. I'm not going to dog the PS2 too much as it does have all the Atlus stuff, which I'm pretty fond of (as well as other great Sega stuff like Shinobi and Nightshade), but the experience of playing Shenmue, Crazy Taxi, House of the Dead, etc. with pristine Naomi-tier graphics is also second to none. I think the reason why a lot of the younger crowd doesn't get it is that they were born into an era in which the games were either shooters, movie games or a combination of both. The DC showcases the peak of 90's gaming, in which arcade games were perfectly acceptable and desired, and were not thought of as less than the more cinematic games (even though Shenmue had that covered pretty well). The gaming landscape right now is so focused on trying to validate videogames as a respectable medium that it continually misses the point. I think this last gen has been pretty good, but I definitely miss a bit the simplicity of the earlier generations.

>>7344197
>the Sonic Adventures, have better ports to other platforms.
It is well documented that DX and Battle are inferior ports.

>>7348204
>I'm always glad to see so much DC love, it seems like everybody that played it when it was new fell in love with it permanently.
They kind of had to because they bought it at a bargain bin and were poorfags without any other options. Most are still sour grapes about it

>>7348213
As I said before I had both DC and PS2. Both both new on launch. PS2 collected dust and I sold it. DC I still play to this very day.
Stop lying to make yourself feel better for playing shitty pseudo-games on a shitty Play(Moviegames)station console.

>>7348232
yes, sure , third world poorfag, yes. Anything that makes you feel better for your deprived life

>>7348204
I was just trying to convey to zoomers a sense of how hyped up the "Emotion Engine" was by Sony.
This piece covers it well:
>https://medium.com/super-jump/emotion-engine-the-playstation-2-launch-467b15263c0b
>Sony’s narrative was extra-sticky owing to the fact that Toy Story 2 was right on the horizon at the time. As the hype grew, gamers were beginning to believe that the PS2 could churn out Toy Story 2 quality graphics with no issues whatsoever. Of course, we didn’t really see this level of visual fidelity in games until just recently (Kingdom Hearts III comes to mind) — nevertheless, the PS2’s graphics were impressive at the time.