/vr/ - Retro Games

your brain is, emutranny.

>>7338824
are you the weird disc-rot denying sped who always posts that kelly comic

>>7338796
Not retro.
Not a problem.

>>7338796
absolute state of cube posters

>DOL-GP7E-0-01
>Mario Party 7
Who cares?

>>7338796
If you store disks in a humidity / climate controlled environment, this will never happen. Don't put them in the garage or the attic.

>>7338903
>it will never happen
it will, just slower
you cannot stop entropy

>>7338915
>completely disinfect disc
>put disc in vacuum tube
>store sucked out tube in dark closet

>>7338915
You will never have a collection.

>>7338921
it will still degrade, space is a sterile vacuum, yet it will eventually decay into the great heat death of the universe

>>7338923
I already did, I sold my entire nes, snes, md and ps1 libraries, I just have spares and chunks of the ps2 library left to sell

>>7338915
My dad has CDs from the mid 80s. They are fine.

>>7338926
>tfw my SNES cartridges will still work after the end of the world

>>7338940
no they are not, the same glues to bond the metalic foils backing were used on all optical media, this is the state of laserdiscs, show to you by museums, stating the problem

>>7338941
that's not going to happen, chips go bad

>>7338949
>laserdiscs
there were some that were manufactured on the cheap. most are fine.

>>7338959
all optical media is made on the cheap, it's what makes it cost viable to make so many

>>7338926
>it will still degrade
how so? What causes things to degrade is oxygen. Being a vacuum means no oxygen. Its how they store the kilo.
There are so many different preservation methods. Pic is a head from the 1800s

You guys are such goobers, lol!

>>7338982
>he dosn't even know the kilo is degrading
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112003322

>>7338982
my man, even that kilo, is rotting
it's literally impossible to fight entropy, it's the eventual end of everything

literally who cares??
copyright laws are far more damaging to the preservation of games than collectors are.
your enemy is the Mouse.

>>7339001
Wrong

>>7339006
>For that reason, the official kilogram is kept locked inside a secured vault at the International Bureau of Weights and Measures near Paris. Scientists are so paranoid that they've only taken it out on three occasions: in 1889, 1946 and 1989. Each time, they've compared it to a set of copies. In 1889, the copies and the kilogram weighed the same, but by 1989, they had drifted apart. Based on the data, the kilogram appears to weigh slightly less than the copies.

No, since disc rot isn't real.

>>7339012
>if I keep telling myself it's not real, my parents won't get a divorce
You live in denial.

>>7339016
>if I just keep hoarding pics of shit that was left outside maybe I can convince some newfags

>>7339016
That's just bad preservation anon. Stop posting this fucking meme picture.

>ITT: hey guys discs go bad ok pls pls pls sell them all on the cheap to me while they still work

>>7339023
keep the faith, keep wishing

>>7339016
lmao, I once got an Xbox 360 disc that wasn't pressed right that looked like it got air trapped inside. However it looked less worse than that.

And yeah the disc did not work.

People really don't believe disc rot is real? It has happened to some of my discs, despite they all being in the same place, no humidity, no nothing.

>>7339047
Your hands look soft, cute!

>>7339063
fuck off faggot

>>7339063
Y y you too!!
Discord?

>>7339079
>>7339070
Wanna RP? :3

>>7338796
That’s disc is rotten sir, throw it out

>>7339047
evidence doesn't work on them, they have turned collecting into a religion and refuse anything that doesn't agree, sorry about your disc anon, I hope you had it backed up, if not we could likely find you an iso

>>7339102
Disc collectors are the worst. Now cartridge kids, they are good people

>>7339108
is somebody going to tell him...
I don't want to be the guy, I don't want to break it to him.

>>7339079
>>7339086
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>>7339102
Thanks anon, but I already have a backup.

>>7339047
Not rot. That's direct damage if ever I've seen it.
You fags DO KNOW that the data is all kept close to the label, so any scratches on the label side REMOVES the data layer?
We all fucking know this, right?!?

>>7339113
Don't crucify me because you have cute hands anon!

>>7339113
cute!

>>7339117
It's fucking not, I keep all my discs inside cases like these. Haven't touched this disc in ages, I just noticed it was this bad last year when I finally decided to replay the best platformer ever made.

>>7339149
Liar. You kept it in a disc wallet with plastic sleeves.
Know how I know? Because I used to keep CDs that way.
And EVERY one of the looked EXACTLY like your pic after awhile.

Hold it up to the light. If you can see spots of light poking through then yes. Otherwise, probably not.

>>7338824
Fpbp

>>7339156
dude, why would he lie? what does he have to gain?

>>7339156
lol ok

>>7338936
>>7338949
>>7338963
>>7339016
>>7339029
>>7339047
Holy fuck stop shitting up every thread you schizo
Also your PAL games are worth less than dirt

>>7339176
rotten discs are worth less than dirt, also lmao if you think thats the same person

>>7339173
Still noone to make a fucking evolution chart of a disc rotting away.

>>7339176
you tried

I can't stand you faggots, ALL of you are the same person, IM the only collector here and you are ALL just trying to trick me into selling my games to you.
DISCROT IS A MEME

>>7339195
This but unironically. Mentioning disc rot in old /vr/ would have you laughed at.

>>7339202
I don't think he was bring ironic, he's actually brain damaged, so are you.

>>7339173
>one disc fucked out of forty
>hurrrrr it's disc rot definitely not a defective disc

>>7339195
>>7339202
we need a word for quarantinefags
we used to have summerfags now we just have coomers who fap all day and are 1000% negative nonstop

>>7339275
That DJ disc and 2 other had similar issues. If they were defective then it was one hell of a hidden defect since they worked for at least a decade.

>>7339195
I'm going to start calling you kellyposter from now on, you're extremely noticable.

We are all likely to be dead by the time these goddamn video games start to break down physically. Why do you all care so much?

>>7339426
they are already rotting and breaking right now and we're still alive

>>7339426
There's literally a wiki for this board filled with how to fix the rotting consoles.

>>7339426
people fear that when were dead that we get to see we left no impression on the Earth from heaven. Its the same fear as having no lineage. If death is the great nothing though, then it really is pointless

>>7339430
>we're still alive
Hoo boy do I have some bad news for you.

>>7339443
you could actually convince me we're in hell, it wouldn't take much

>>7339442
So hypothetically the afterlife is real and instead of doing some cool shit like smoking a bowl with with Notorious BIG, you're going to stare at earth and cry about PSX games?

>>7339454
>being a degenerate in heaven with subhumans
wat

>>7339454
>you're going to stare at earth and cry about PSX games?
this is 1000x more enjoyable than the great nothing that so many clinically dead people report seeing.

>>7338949
I have almost two thousand Laserdiscs, only two have any signs of rot. Both were from runs with contaminated water. I have almost five thousand CDs, none with rot, and almost a thousand DVDs. None with any rot.

Disc rot is a completely overblown problem, and was only ever an issue for a limited number of plants and a limited number of months.

>>7339484
yet the museums do, I wonder who to believe

>>7338915
>entropy

>>7339487
A museum obtained one of the few discs from the short runs affected by rot. It's not difficult to do.

I'm sure if one took a closer photo we'd be able to confirm it's one of the very, very few discs prone to rot.

>>7339484
Laserdisc rot is very plant specific. Often title specific.
If you've got a copy of Men In Black pressed at DADC Terre Haute, just throw it out now. 100% chance it's gone.
If your MiB disc was pressed at Pioneer Carson, you're fine. It's almost certainly as good as new.

>>7339523
It's not even title specific, it's DAY specific. Disc rot in commercially pressed discs can always be tracked down to a contamination issue in the water.

Of course cheap burnable discs also rot, but this is because the formulations aren't tested for durability and instead are merely selected for price.

>>7339553
it's the glue

>>7339562
It's actually too much calcium in the water used to wash the disc between steps.

>>7339553
In the case of DADC USA, it was the substandard glues they were using to bond the two layers of the LD together. Air was getting in and oxidizing the metal layers.

>>7339438
>there's a wiki
and that somehow gives you credibility?

>>7339484
>two thousand laserdiscs
Uh buddy there aren't

>>7339582
>a wiki on this board, made by this board, specifically to fix rotting consoles you claim will live for a thousand years.
Yes.

>>7339591
You aren't a member of this board

>>7339587
There are at least 60,000 LD titles.

>>7339594
oh really faggot, tell me more

>>7339587
More like 10,000 titles, and that's just the US market.

Are disc rot autists and replace your caps autists the same people? Just a thought.

>>7338796
Floppy Disks, Zip disks and some cassette tapes will usually crap out before CDs, UMDs, and DVDs.

>>7339623
>animeposter yelling autist
way to undermine yourself

>>7339637
>posts on /vr/
>isn't an autist of some brand or another
Save some puss for the rest of us, anon!

>>7339632
yes, they do, magnetic media is the first to die, then rom chips, then optical, only M-Disc is the format specifically made to last, which is why it's seen as the archival media and used by libraries

>>7339008
>copies collect dirt the original can't
>they weigh more than the original

>>7340353
file your white paper with the international standards community, tell me how much they laugh

>>7338901
fucking based

Good to know that anyone in 2021 informed of impending problems will refuse to believe in literally all forms of evidence no matter what, I can definitely have hope for the future now

>>7340827
It's not that nobody denies the hardware is going to die eventually. It's that nobody cares because it's going to happen after they die, and by that point emulation will be perfected.

>>7340837
did you not read they thread, there are faggots who will scream "it's a meme" at museum exhibits showing the exact thing, they are in denial

>>7340849
They scream its a meme because its a problem that's blown out of proportion. Everything is going to degrade and break down no shit, people talked about disc rot all the time on /vr/ long before the 6th gen rule change. So yes we know about it.
Thankfully the internet exists so nearly everything thats worth a shit has already been dumped and is with us forever.

>>7340867
stick around longer, you'll see them explicitly state it's not real at all, not blown out of proportion, simply not real

How do I stop it?
I'm not much of a physical mediafag but I have a few old physical games that I treasure and would like to preserve.

>>7340874
You can't stop it but you can significantly slow down the process by storing them in a low humidity, climate controlled environment. As long as you aren't Shrek or treating your discs like shit they'll still have many years to go.

>>7340874
if it's not dumped, dump it, the only way to ensure it lives as long as possible is redundancy, backups, other than that, storing them where its dark and dry will extend their lifespan, magentic media is most prone, then rom chips, optical media lasts longer, don't confuse this for me begging for your roms, you dont have to share them online, but that does make sure there are enough copies out there that it cant be lost forever

>>7340882
>>7340881
thanks, anons

The levels of cope from collectorfags never cease to amaze me. Even back in the early 2000s I had seen disc rot on psx games burned on cheap cd-rs, sure it was cheap media and it might not happen to every single disc in existence but outright denying it and saying shit like that only happens if you leave discs out in the sun/rain is just pure copium.

>>7338796
Take good care of your discs and theyll ouast you
Its not rocket science

>>7338949
you know this is Oxidisation right?

>>7341180
yes, I can read, it says it right on the sign.

>>7341183
My point is it's an inevitability so there's no use in worrying about it, just do what you can to store it correctly, unless you want to vacuum seal them i guess

>>7338796
Little bit

I'm buying some more rare and expensive CD/DVD based games because of this thread.

>>7339168
Because this is 4chan and he's baiting?

>>7342894
Yep, OP's transparent as glass.

>>7342896
>he's not proving me wrong, he's baiting me
you have brain cancer

Let's keep this threat bumped.

>>7339047
The hand of a cute femboy :3

>>7342926
die groomer

>>7340837
Only Emulation use by tranny

>>7340962
It's so rare that it's almost non-existent among pressed discs.

Also leaving your shit out and letting it get scratched up isn't disc rot.

>>7342929
Never

>>7339594
>Member
>Anonymous forum
Bran damig

Saturn disc

Sour grapes: the thread

This isn't even about video games, and all this incessant opinionated bloviating will amount to nothing. If you're so desperate to make yourself feel better about your life choices, you should ditch game collecting and become an opiate junkie. Faggots

>>7342926
Sorry to disappoint you but I'm 24 and just skinny as fuck. Try looking for faggot kids on discord or something.

>>7343058
>if I whine about the thread, my shit wont rot

>>7343125
If it rots, it rots. I still got to enjoy it

>If you're so desperate to make yourself feel better about your life choices, you should ditch game collecting and become an opiate junkie.

Thanks for pretending to care about my property on my behalf, I guess? Faggot

>>7343050
Yes when you store discs in shitty plastic holders the foil peels off, this is a well known issue.

>>7339047
>Claw
>Its scratched to shit

heh

>>7343050
>>7343361
That Sega damages quality control.

>>7338796

*ahem*

DISC ROT ISN'T REAL

BIT ROT ISN'T REAL

AS LONG AS YOU DON'T STORE YOUR GAMES IN A DESERT CAVE YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO ENJOY THEM FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE


Thank you.

>>7343651
Honestly this is like complaining that houses are flammable. Like, yeah, things deteriorate...
...so take care of them. Or don't. It's your property

>>7343651
they are real but there's no way it's happening this quickly unless there are faulty protective layers on a disc

>>7339005
Kill the mouse
Take his house
Rape his spouse
Wear her blouse

>>7343923
Sounds like radiohead lyrics

>>7343651
Absurdly based.

>>7338824
BAAAAAYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESED

>>7338936
>stores games in a tub
>cheapest possible crap in collection
Yikes

>>7338953
All of my NES tapes will still boot after both of us are dead. Mask ROMs are really durable.

look at you pathetic larpers with only 30 discs claiming data degradation isnt real

>>7344386
no, they are not, they die BEFORE optical media

>>7344421
You know, I ought to go up into my attic and bring my three or four suitcases of 40 or so 40× year old Atari 2600 games and test them out just to prove you wrong. They've been sitting up there in the heat, unplayed for over a decade, but I'd bet anything the vast majority of them (if not all) still work.

>>7344430
I've been dumping carts for 20 years, im the insane super collector from the massive image dump thread, I personally know from dumping the carts that they go bad, I personally know from having insane numbers of discs that they rot.
Go call a museum, record the call, post it here.

>>7344430
see
>>7343267

>>7344435
>insane numbers of disks
How are they stored, exactly?