/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7330526
You played right into the zoomer's trap. Now you're giving him exposure. Fuck's sake I wish boomer millenials weren't so fucking sodabrained. I'm convinced you could probably send them all to die for Israel if you promise them free tickets to Super Nintendo World.

>>7330526
I can’t take your opinion seriously unless you played Mario 64 in the 90’s.

Absolutely astonishing comment section

>>7330526
your mom sucks

>>7330526
>SUPER MARIO 64 SUCKS LOL
k.jpg, I still like it.

>>7330526
>Zoomer
>One of those cartoon narrators
Oh No No No No

>>7330526
Don’t shill your video here, zoomer. You’re trash at the game and you sound like Mickey Mouse when you’re mad, you dumb faggot.

>>7330526
>Hollow Knight poster in the background
Great, more retards will hate on the game now.

>>7330526
>This old game is too hard for me therefore its bad because I'm a faggot zoomer who's been raised on games that hold my hand.
OK then

How is this blatant advertisement for a Youtube channel still up?

>>7330630
But Hollow Knight is trash regardless of being associated with retarded children.

>>7330750
you're just being a contrarian.

Honestly mario 64 is kind of gay I like games like star ocean

>>7331012
he is not, hollow knight is legit trash

>>7330553

All I see are anon burner accounts giving him hell.

>>7330526
Stop shilling it here. It's not a good video.

>>7330526
I sincerely don't understand how the controls in Mario 64 are supposed to be bad. I think they're one of the reasons that game is so fantastic. Learning Mario's acrobatic moves and getting good at using them is so satisfying. How good does it feel to long jump with that Z trigger? This is a game where the N64 controller feels like a dream to use.
The game isn't perfect and there are a few areas I do think are a bit flawed (The pole jumping is a little bit iffy to me), but they are not game-ruining.
Regardless, this moron is admitting he keeps dying on the first Bowser level, I don't think we should be taking anything he says seriously.

This guy wants to be Egoraptor so bad lol

>>7330526
I don't think Mario 64 is bad. but I just did a playthrough a couple of weeks ago, and I noticed the camera is REALLY bad. It's the main thing holding the game back from 10/10 status. Back in the day we didn't know any better, but now it's really noticeable.

>>7331298
>I sincerely don't understand how the controls in Mario 64 are supposed to be bad.
Zoomers in their mid 20s can't fucking do what 6 yr old millenials could do easily 25 years ago. Shocking News

>>7331315
All YT content creators are just the same carbon copies of 5 different styles. The animated persona with WHUUUAAKY Jontron egoraptor video editing, the droning brit voiceover, the irl live action actor ala AVGN, the basic normal voice over with only gameplay footage and puppetry

4th one is the only good style because I just see games, I dont wanna see your gay OC, your twink face or hear your british voice.

>>7331012
Hollow knight is actually mediocre though.

>>7330526
He didn't actually explain what is wrong with the camera in his opinion. He just said it "restricted camera movement in an open area" which he didn't give any examples of. Why can nobody who hates SM64's camera articulate themselves as to why?

>>7331750

it moves in "steps" due to the lack of another analog input, it has some amount of "bounce" so it's hard to position it precisely.

Personally adjusting the camera takes me away from playing the game. Meaning that I usually stop, adjust the camera, and then continue on playing.

I also have this problem with Zelda OoT but it sucks less there somehow

>>7331767
>I usually stop, adjust the camera, and then continue on playing
Adjusting the camera is second nature to me, I just do it as I play and I never have a problem with it. I suppose I can understand if you were completely unfamiliar with the game that being an issue but nine times out of ten, it works perfectly for me. I do think that there are parts of the game here and there where the camera is at fault, but mostly it's perfect. Most other 3D platformers from around the same time have many more camera and control issues than Mario 64.

>>7330526
>"super mario 64 has recently come into my life"
>hollow knight poster
>gay little cartoon man serving as an avatar
it's all here for prime zoomer cringe.

Friendly reminder to sage and report off topic eceleb threads

>>7330526
>mentions speedrunning like an autist.
>thinks they took out all speedrunner tricks when it's just the one
WAT

Fuck eceleb cancer

>>7330539
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>>7330610
>>7331268
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>>7331826
hoes mad

>>7331834
I miss him so much.

>>7331987
We all do friend. We all do.

>>7331239
>>7331742
kys retard nigs

>>7332216
You first Hollow zoomie

>>7332216
Tween spotted

>>7330541
> unless you played Mario 64 in the 90’s.
Not him but I played it for the first time around 2008. And I'm actually liked it (mostly bc of kinda strange atmosphere).

>>7331298
The only issue I have is how Mario will sometimes do a solid 180 when turning, and then sometimes he'll literally spin around to face the other way. Makes some of the later platforming in Tick Tock Clock and Rainbow Ride a pain. It's nothing that can't be learned around though, everything else about Mario 64's controls are great.

>>7333670
The 180 turn happens when turning Mario in the opposite direction while not in his neutral state. Even in the very last frames of him skidding out he'll do it or in the very few skid frames from when he's slowing down from low speed running. That's definitely something I think should be changed with the source port.

>>7333754
Yeah just makes turning in tight spots a bit of a pain. Again, nothing that can't be overcome but would definitely be preferable to get rid of that aspect.

>>7333754
there are some levels where the came annoys me like inside the volcano, i always end up using the camera focus button which is akward and makes a shitty sound, thats the part of 64 that aged really, the movement is fine and very fluid, the levels look weird and barebones but they are fun to traverse still.

>>7330541
I played Super Mario 64 for the first time at a kiosk in Hill's Department Store around Christmas in 1996. it was so horrible I asked my parents to get me a PlayStation instead.

>>7330553
Clicked for the comments, was not disappointed.

I wonder how long it'll take for people to shit all over dark souls franchise in the next generation

>>7330526
I unironically love the fucking atmosphere in 64.

For example outside peaches castle there is no music, just ambient sounds like birds and water. So fucking comfy.

All of Mario 64 has something lonely to it, like there are not many NPCs, also a huge castle that is almost empty is pretty surreal. Overall it is an interesting and surreal experience and I love the atmosphere the most. I don't care if it is a masonic initiation rite or personalized or something I still like it.

>>7333879
Yeah, the lack of NPCs is what makes people think some of these games are creepy. You only find a handful of enemies in Hyrule Field. Anyway, OP is a fag, as always. Mario 64 is a great game. Everyone that hates it can’t explain themselves in a cohesive way. They just say, “well, the camera/gameplay sucks” and that’s it. No further explanation. Just a bunch of meaningless words when they could just say, “I’m not good at the game.” Nothing wrong with misunderstanding a game older than you, I just wish zoomers would admit that rather than blame the game itself.

>>7330526
I enjoyed his video in a way, it's comforting to not be him.

>>7331767
Funny, I did this effortlessly when I was 8.

FUK U

>>7333841
its already creeping is as a contrarian take but it hasn't taken hold, probably because even the most cinical of people still know that even if you want to shit on dark soul theres nothing else from the gaming industry that is worth defending in comparison without being call a faggot. But it will definitely happen as soon as the games loose some steam and other franchise by another developer starts gaining a similar reputation

>>7333828
yeah, the comments are funny, problem is youtube will see all the engagement and probably recommend his shitty video because of it, thats why these fags do it in the first place.

>>7330526

Mario 64 is a perfect game, except for the camera.

>>7330526
wiggler

As a PC kid back in the '90s I could never figure out the shit controls on these N64 games. In 1996 we were already playing Quake.

>>7330539
>boomer millenials
So are they boomers or millennials?

>>7330526
while his points and reasoning are bad, the fucking gameplay absolutely takes the shit cake.

>>7336701
Yeah the camera can be a cunt, but it in no way ruins the game or stops it.
>>7336740
>muh Brown Doom
lol

>>7336740
>FPS player
>too retarded to even be able to figure out Mario 64
Checks out completely

I wonder what’s with the trend of saying something sucks without really looking that hard into the context behind it. I mean yeah it’s just clickbait made to shill the guy’s shitty channel, but Mario 64 is one of the first 3D platformers that not only got a ton right at launch but is still fun to play even now. Didn’t watch it but I can only assume he played the switch port and got stuck because of “artificial difficulty” or something like that.

>>7336862
because positive and level headed critique don't generate hate clicks unless you are being positive about something most people don't like, which foes spawn the hate clicks and hipsters coming along to defend you

"why -insert any game from all time critically aclaimed lists- actually promotes bad game design and has aged badly

conversely :

"Revisiting Bubsy 3d, and why is an underated gem" tthat defies conventions

>>7336862
>nly assume he played the switch port and got stuck because of “artificial difficulty” or something like that.
Yeah, he played it for the first time on the switch and got filtered by the first bowser boss fight.

There are nintendies that legitimately believe Mario 64 pioneered moving in 3D space, genuinely.
The think any 3D game before it had no player movement at all, or more likely have no idea there were 3D games before the N64.

>>7330526
>yet another "popular thing is actually bad and heres why" youtube video
At least its not 3 hours long, I guess?

>>7337142
go suck more carmack and romero dick, i guess Romero did made you his bitch after all

>>7337142
>or more likely have no idea there were 3D games before the N64.
>b-but muh jumpling flash

>>7330526
Stop shilling your channel here, faggot

>>7337337
these digits... my god

>>7331298
Because he's using an emulator. The N64 controller has no deadzones. You can see in the video the way Mario is moving.

Super Mario punishes you for going fast.
Super Mario is push right to win.
Super Mario was never good.

HA! NOW YOU KNOW HOW IT FEELS!

>>7337352
Except in the case of Super Mario, those are actually lies

>>7337119
The bowser fights are so easy. Literally just run up to the bomb, wait for Bowser to charge at you, backflip, grab his tail and you throw him from an inch away. How do people not understand that?

>>7337330
do you only think in consoles?
amiga had full 3D worlds in 1991, 5 years before your precious bing bing wahoo

>>7337365
a tutorial didn't tell him

>>7337369
well, err..
fuck you mario had a time machine, he made the amiga

>>7337369
wow, thats looks very dynamic, fluid and incredible revolutionary game with great mechanics that have been replicated by every other title since

>>7337378
five years ahead of you

>>7337378
>full 3D world
>all vehicles drivable
>everything interactable
>five years before a single line of mario 64 code was written
Yes, revolutionary, you pleb

>>7337369
just the camera in N64 alone was a bigger breakthrough for 3d gaming than anything Hackmack and Romero ever did in their whole careers, even something like that wasn't figured out and in fact even until much later than mario 64 games only had shitty tank controls or were generic fps

>>7337390
absolute bullshit that would have you laughed out of the SIGGRAPH convention.

>>7337387
>full 3D world
>all vehicles drivable
Really stretching's hard on this one uh

This is the "game" that changed everything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzByYlnvaN0

Actually less interactive and more stiff than a fucking sierra 2d point and click

>>7337395
why would i care about Trannycon ?

>>7337397
five whole years before you, on tech not even designed for it

>>7337402
SIGGRAPH is an annual conference on computer graphics organized by the ACM SIGGRAPH, starting in 1974.
You know, the people that know this shit, unlike you.

nintoddlers are fucking braindead

>>7337406
ok trannie, whatever you say, Amiga rules, fps is the greatest gift from god (Romero) to mankind and literally nothing matters ever except for that, gaming should just be generic doom clones for retards forever

>>7337397
I just watched what you posted and it invalidates everything you said, why are you hitting yourself?

>>7337420
mario 64 owes everything to what came before it and gave nothing back, it's legacy is a throng of mouth breathing reprobates fueled by brand loyalty, shitting on the shoulders of giants it stands on

>>7337426
>it invalidates everything you said
in your stupid head maybe

>>7337434
>'s legacy is a throng of mouth breathing reprobates fueled by brand loyalty,
nah, thats Id Software

>>7337434
has nintendo done anything original?

>>7337470
Has sega?

>>7337387
I see Australia-kun is back to peddling some absolute garbage for the sorry excuse for a computer known as the Amiga.

>>7337472
why are you posting sonic shit at me? I'm the Amiga master race you offended with your mario64 claims

>>7337470
stop posting this right now

>>7337483
>Amiga master race
transgender individuals are not a race, disphoria is a mental condition and programming is only a profession

>>7337495
learn to spell baby boy, also, nintendo has never done anything original

>>7337483
Why are Amiga fans the most delusional and mentally ill (a tall order no doubt) group on /vr/?

>>7337470
stop it! stop it! stop it!

>>7337501
Amiga never did anything anyone who wasn't on estrogen pills or antipsychotics cared about

>>7337515
even your faggoty wii "balance board" was wholesale lifted from Amiga