/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
500ml of /vr/
BETA, UPDATED:
https://archive.org/details/500ml-vr-halloween-beta
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/7041037/#7043379
https://discord.gg/F968y8Wj4x

=== NEWS ===
[1-21]New Quake Map Jam
https://www.moddb.com/mods/blue-monday-jam/downloads/blue-monday-jam

[1-18]The Force Engine update!
https://theforceengine.github.io/2021/01/18/TFE-Update-2021-Plans.html

[1-17]Backwoods demo release
https://twitter.com/Shorted_Fuse/status/1350601620338434049

[1-15]Time Tripper, a Doom II episode with custom conent and minor gameplay changes
https://heckscaper.com/tt/

[1-15]Wrath: Aeon of RUIN Updated
https://steamcommunity.com/games/1000410/announcements/detail/4589698632264671265
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2N12cxEXVs

[1-13] vkQuake updated
https://github.com/Novum/vkQuake/releases/tag/1.05.2

[1-12] YamagiQ2 testbuild with vulkan
https://github.com/yquake2/yquake2/pull/643

[1-12] Crispy Doom 5.10.0 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/67168-crispy-doom-5100-update-jan-12-2021/

[1-12] Shrak unofficial patch released
https://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=62008

[1-10] Progs_dump v2.00 released, a dev kit that expands vanilla possibilites for mapping, adds QoL features
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTbkLP3B2FE
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1A3v318I8s4ZtbOsW08ok7nY83mAXdOAX/view

[1-9]500ML updated with a new map for playtesting: >>7274097

[1-9]Quakewulf releases Security Terminal for Quake 2
http://quakeulf.suxos.org/3d/maps/console.zip

[1-8] Woof version 3.1.0 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/112333-this-is-woof-310-jan-08-2021-updated-winmbf/

[1-7] Corruption Cards updated to 1.0
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=67939&p=1178053#p1178053


=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0/edit?usp=sharing

TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST

if yesterday was slow, today is even more.

>>7328275
Its not even 7:30 where I live. Give it time.

Fuck it, gross hack time.

If I can't have scripted textures, I'll yeet a camera out of bounds and make it stare at a bunch of flatsprites.

Why do enemies commit suicide in Shadow Warrior sometimes? Do they have a number of ammo assigned to them and when they're on the last one they kill themselves?
Saw it happen a few times

>>7328285
honorable seppuku

>Want to replace multiple sprites with the same sprite without changing the file names
How do I do this?

>>7328307
If you're talking about vanilla, unmodified Doom, then the best you could do would be to simply replace all of the sprites with copies of your sprite, using the same names.

>>7328275
Yesterday was slow because there was next to no shitposting

>>7328316
Yeah that's what I was thinking but I'm wondering if I can just "Save over these files and keep original names"

>>7328261
Archived link to replace dead one on [1-9]
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/7271649/#7274097

>>7328282
NEVERMIND SOME MAPS BREAK IT THANKS GRAF

>Run WAD
>Nothing changes
Am I missing something

>>7328259
I miss quake humor sites

>>7328285
Whoa. Never ever seen this. What are the hard numbers chances?

>>7326807
>>7328229
>>7328243
I'm interested. Does that Ruskie Q2 Doom stuff come with a devkit?

>play a custom shadow warrior map
>it starts with a group of hornets near you

>>7328459
I have seen this happen a few times, Idk what triggers it. Found a vid of it if you want
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nBplDC23GA

>>7328465
welp
https://www.playground.ru/quake_2/file/quake_2_legacy_of_doom_2_plutonia_experiment-1046218
download everything there, its slow as fuck

also it was made on lazarus + KMquake2

>>7328480
>According to the manual they're prone to suicide due to a "lack of honour"
So running out of ammo, which theoretically should never occur because you should always be killing. That's amazing. Never ever knew this could happen. It's the little things.

>>7328487
Honestly I wouldn't trust youtube comments but it might be true. SW in general might have the most advanced enemies, they also jump and climb ladders, shadow ninjas use flash bomb if you come near them etc. Haven't seen stuff like that in Duke, Blood or RR so far

>>7328486
>Doom II
>Plutonia
That screenshot anon posted was of E3M8 though.

>>7328327
then in slade you select the image you want to replace, click on the right mouse button and select import, select the image you want to replace it with and there you have it.

>>7328493
its there too
all of the maps are there

>>7328501
Ah okay. Could make for a neat /vr/ speed map jam. Let me fenangle it.

>>7327948
Scattered to the winds, the IRC died a fairly quick death when Discord first took off a few years ago and I watched everyone gradually disappear from the channel. Most of the cool guys were rolled into Term's Doominati, but then that died when the man himself left for greener pastures. Marty's community picked up some of the pieces from that, but it's not really a Doom or /vr/-oriented place otherwise. A few of us clung together in personal servers too, but there's no real equivalent to #vr as far as I'm aware. I guess there's that server for the Blood project, but I can't speak to its quality at all and I think its intent was purely temporary organization from the start, not a lasting community or general purpose hangout.

Apologies to the rest of the thread for making a post like this, but it sucks when the people you used to hang with are just gone and I think a man should know what happened.

>>7328503
Just make /vr/ Doom servers with regularity and a community can rise again. The key word is with regularity. There's one anon who hosts DM servers now and then and posts them here, but it's seemingly random when he does.

>>7328360
WAIT I PILED UP MORE GROSS HACKS AND FIXED IT

>>7328486
N00b warning - this mod is so abysmaly unstable you literally cannot (quick)save midgame because the maps are apparently too big ever for KMQ2 to handle most of them without any issues (luckily there are some smaller intermission levels just for making saves if you suck); Also applies to other Doom TCs made by the same author.

>>7328430
post all the pics you have, i'm interested

>>7328424
?
Those are the player sprites, you won't see changes in single player

>>7328506
This. I love playing on anon's servers, but they're too infrequent for my taste.

Total Chaos is spooking me too much

>>7328527
If you are using the old versions it is
use the nightly builds

I sometimes wish for some nostalgiafag to be able to try fixing the Q2 Oblivion mod at last,
have been thinking about it occasionally ever since all those years when I first found it included in a old PCgamer-esque magazine DVD bundle once (before actually playing the regular Q2 SP campaign for some reason) and after trying out the 2 official addons (and Zaero too) I am still baffled by how decent it was compared to shit like Juggernaut or Unseen quality-wise while also being a free mod.

>>7328546
This kills the Blood3

>>7328534
You can if you use chase cam, I fixed it anyways

>>7328571
Did they finally fixed that BS 'feature' with thrown weapons (hand-grenade/tesla/trap) and GL projectiles being affected by the momentum of players movement?

This mod is gonna be so ugly bros I can't wait

>>7328623
if all you're doing is sprite changes, it should work in crispy doom. it'll work in dos doom even if you organize the lumps right i think

>>7328623
What are you doin

>>7328635
Imagine Doom with Dwarf Fortress graphics

Just beat Marathon for the first time on total carnage. Was a lot of fun but man those last few levels were frustrating. Looking forward to replaying 2 as I having played it since the 360 version came out. Would recommend if any of you haven't played it yet.

>>7328623
I salute you

>>7328641
So just sprite changes? That's fine I guess. custom weapons would be neat. Even if it were just little dehacked edits or something.

https://www.beyondunreal.com/
the absolute state of unreal

>>7328259
I thought the speech bubble was in Arabic for a second

Valiant and Eviternity. Anything else with an atmosphere/aesthetic similar to these?

>>7328623
Thanks for reminding me about the Libcaca text-mode Doom2 renderer...

>Make map
>Map has too much health and ammo and is not fun
>Reduce pickups
>Map doesn't have enough health and ammo and is not fun
The cycle continues.

>>7328618
https://bitbucket.org/Knightmare66/kmquake2_stable/downloads/

>>7328662
End of an era.
Someone should make an Unreal archival site that stores all the old maps and mods.

>>7328693
Sounds like something else is the problem then.

>>7328662
Oldunreal's downloads pages are now empty. Wtf.

>>7328662
soulless community, they just don't care

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wu8-RFWbCM
we goldeneye now

>>7328748
>all the monsters having the pain and death grunts of the bad guys from Goldeneye
>Shamblers make this sound as it melodramatically jumps and flops over to its death
>https://youtu.be/X9irWYNanm0?t=14

>>7328720
No, the pickups are the problem. I just need to get the balance just right.

>>7328693
Make the encounters, play them on the difficulty you're optimizing the map for, when you get to near death, that's when you put a medkit.

>>7328632
It could even work in the original .exe if done right.

>Crispy
>Crispy
>Crispy
Do people not use Chocolate Doom anymore? I like it.

>>7328623
>[chaotic guitar chords]

https://gofile.io/d/hY8XSD

Here's what I've gotten done in one day, this is just so you can see what I am going for

>>7328945
I tried and my eyes went on strike. Only useful for mappers who make vanilla maps as a challenge.

Should I change this wall texture? Is its current state weird?
I can't lower it to 128 units tall because player would be able to peak through it from certain angles. I can add some trim to the bottom though.

>>7328285
It's your health points vs how long the enemy was awake and how many attack cycles the Ninja went through. If you health is high and it unsuccessfully attacked you a few times, then there is a chance for it to trigger seppuku state i.e you "demoralized and overpowered" it.

>>7328945
Chocolate is fine, but I think a lot of people just like the small quality of life features of Crispy, like not having to use a hack or trick to turn off mouse movement or having run being a toggle.

>>7328602
Blood 2 killed the franchise for good.

>>7328820
This, but also throw in sporadic stimpacks in corridors.

>>7328996
Cut in a small triangular sector along the wall, and make the upper texture that texture, and the lower one a more basic filler texture (or vice versa).
Pic related. Red is where the ceiling and floor meet. Upper texture in this case would be the 128 tall texture.

>>7329050
It's just adding trim, but you don't need to worry about messing up your floorspace.

Quake 2 best MP reminder (SP cucks BTFO)

>>7329079
It's for you, king.

>>7329050
I'm trying to visualize it, but it doesn't come together. Cut what? Where?

Are there any attempts to port the PS2/Xbox/console versions of RTCW and Quake 3 to pc?

>>7329079
>never played Community stuff
>ever played mission packs
anon you will be in for a rude awakening mainly with loki's missions

>>7329025
what is the imp sigil /vr/?

>>7329105
You'd have to pay me to bother with Q2 custom content.

WHERE THE FUCK IS YOUR SHIT THAT YOU WERE WORKING ON YOU COWARDS

>>7329149
You can't pay me enough to bother with Q2

all modern retro fps suck

>>7329163
I've been rebalancing my Hell Frontier levels, nothing new to show for it. Here's something old from the episode finale I'm currently doing.

>>7329149
check it by yourself and prepare for what can be said the most inhumanly hard maps ever made thanks to source ports fixing the SP code, Drunk ruskies laughing at celephais faggotry and what they call "hard", and literal asshole monster placement thanks to gunners and gladiator snipers, and of couse the bane of all living that is shotgunners on nightmare

because If grunts and enforcers were pieces of shit in quake, here the thing is different and 1 of them alone deals 80HP with no armor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFgGzDrj7OM

>>7329202
>saya no uta.wad

>>7329193
>modern retro fps

>>7329214
I don't understand this reference.

>>7329214
I understood that reference.

>>7329163
Hard at work making ASCII Doom

>>7329086

>>7329252
Oh ok. I get it. Won't really work for me because I wanted some kind of vague natural thing to appear behind it.

Welcome to hell motherfucker

>>7329262
Alrighty. Well now I'm not sure what the issue is.
Might be worth making more general trickery videos like this though... Like a truncated chubz

>>7329215
yes dusk, ion fury, wrath, etc all mediocre

>>7329278
Just not sure my current choice of fence texture is very good. Looking for some random people to nudge me one way or the other.

>>7329312
lol stfu you clown

>>7329326
unreal better

>>7329312
I couldn't get into Dusk, but I love Ion Fury, and Wrath is turning out pretty great. I'm really looking forward to the custom maps for Wrath when it's out of early access. Some people already are making some since it's fully workable with Trenchbroom.

>>7329163
it's sunday

>>7328602
https://twitter.com/devolverdigital/status/410867780443836416
I've read someone claim before if someone were to buy Blood IP, it would need to sell more than 3 times Shadow Warrior 2013 did to make profit with the amount of money Atari is asking for IP, but haven't seen any source for that myself

>>7329214

I understand the reference but I never read it. Do you fuck the loli?

>>7329326
He's right however. Wrath is boring as fuck.

I dont mind Retro inspired stuff, if it is actually well inspired. It does not seem to be the case with either IF or Wrath. Dusk has its moments.

>>7329314
Oh, I see. What about that black and grey crosshatched texture? Black backgrounded one. It at least looks more like a fence. And you can just pretend it's dark behind it.
Or one of the grey textures for concrete look.

I found a dehacked tutorial and it's surprisingly easy, at least the basic stuff. Like you can make the mancubus never stop firing until you break line of sight, pic related, you can reskin the baron of hell into a cyberbaron and make it fire rockets (I had to cut two death frames to make it fit since I dunno how to add states yet), reskin the cyberdemon into the ones from Ribbiks' maps and give it 1000hp, etc.
https://youtu.be/PTn-oK8m2KU

>>7328259
This looks identical to a 2020 shitpost, time is a flat circle

>>7328945
I turn off all the Crispy enhancements besides 1-2; I mainly use it over Chocolate for the sake of avoiding crashes due to any potential overflows.

>>7329549
Yeah that video is a godsend for people who want to dip their feet into modding and/or mapping. We could probably do a decent project centered around dehacked for beginners.

>>7329557
Where do you find these old-ass images?

>>7329590
https://dondeq2.com/2018/11/14/gameart-quake-2-comics-collection/

>>7329594
10/10 image that one.

>>7329594
That site is a goldmine, thanks for sharing.

>>7329312
Those games are welcome new additions when you’ve been playing the same games for over 20 years and you’re not a try hard zoomie trying to fit in

>>7329590
sites like archive . org and the wayback machine exist, zoom zoom

>>7329495
Figured I'd do something like that.

>>7328549
Infrequent you say, motherfucker? How about you stay tuned for another hour or two. My family's holding me hostage, but when they get off my ass you're in for a treat...

>>7329594
All those references to QuakeWorld and its lingo make me think, how long till Quake players, be they speedrunners or regular players, realized the potential of bhopping and started to actually utilize it? Cus I've seen gameplay of QW from just a year after it came out where the guy doesn't do it at all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTYLEqBwIPw

Hey, what's /vr/ working on for Doom? The design musings in the last thread go me looking at my old maps.

>>7329786
I'm updating my episode to be more balanced. Map count increased to 11. Right now I am making a fence.

>>7329706
Looks p good.

>>7328679
IMO, BTSX E2 (also E1M20) and Ancient Aliens both have a pretty strong sense of atmosphere.
TNT Revilution also has a few highly atmospheric levels, particularly map12

>>7329208
IIRC the SuperShotgun guards are misc_actor monsters who use player weapons, which is why they hit like a freighter-train up close, good thing they cannot be revived though

>>7330036
again, a /vr/ Q2 unit would be interesting

>>7330048
Then write up some rules and start it.

>>7330062
Anon tried in the past but celephais gestapo went shut it down goyim as every Quake project here at /vr/

>>7330048
after not getting blood one after half a year you think a widely derived game like quake 2 would have better success?
it is all amateurish doom maps from here on forever

>>7330068
What are you talking about? We've had Quake 1 projects here before. Sounds like a lame excuse to me.

>>7330082
He's a newfag.

I've heard that gzdoom makes the spidermind go down in one bfg, but having played it on chocodoom it's honestly not much harder than that, is it just a bit of a bitch to begin with?

>>7330180
Distance matters. Spider mastermind is big enough to catch all the BFG tracers at once at close range and they add up quickly. She overall has a lot of weaknesses that makes her an ineffective monster.

>>7329594
>Transfer rate: 2.61 KB/sec
Damn that takes me back. I feel so fucking old.

>>7330180
It's still entirely possible to do in vanilla, the BLOCKMAP fix in GZDoom just makes it a bit more reliable. It's not like they fucked with the damage values (and actually the more accurate RNG table in GZDoom would lower the average damage, vanilla pRNG liked to roll high), they just fixed a shitty bug that makes your shots go straight through enemies at random.

I'm coming here to beg for help with DOSBox because this is something I've been stuck on for nearly a decade and after spending this entire weekend trying to solve it, I'm completely out of patience. I have no idea how to get DOSBox cpu cycles to just WORK ok. I want the cpu speed of the game to be accurate to the machine I'm emulating (SVGA S3 Trio64) without exceeding any frame limits the game I'm currently playing may have.

I've tried mixing and matching every CPU core, type, cycles mode etc. and it either runs like a laggy slideshow or way too fucking fast. I understand emulation for every console under the sun but DOS is absolutely fucking mystifying me and after years of searching online I still don't have a fucking solution to this.

>>7329763
From a Carmack .plan

>Whee! Lots of hate mail from strafe-jupers!

>Some reasonable messages have convinced me that a single immediate jump after landing may be important to gameplay. I'll experiment with it.

>Strafe jumping is an exploitable bug. Just because people have practiced hard to allow themselves to take advantage of it does not justify it's existance. When I tried fixing the code so that it just didn't work, I thought it changed the normal running movement in an unfortunate way.

>In the absense of powerups or level features (wind tunnels, jump pads, etc), the game characters are supposed to be badasses with big guns. Arnold Schwartzenegger and Sigourney Weaver don't get down a hallway by hopping like a bunny rabbit.

>This is personal preference, but when I play online, I enjoy it more when people are running around dodging, rather than hopping.

>My personal preference just counts a lot. :-)

>>7330293
1999 btw

>>7330290
Try a standalone thread for that as well, I'm not sure how much you'll get here

I downloaded the doom64 IWAD, but it's not showing up in my IWAD selection in the gzdoom preloader. What am I doing wrong?

>>7330082
>We've had Quake 1 projects here before
Link? I can't find them in the OP.

Also the FAQ/PASTEBIN recommends DarkPlaces for Quake, fucking LOL

>>7330383
HUH: https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/huh_final.html
QUMP: https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/qump.html

>>7330196
This is why I am souping her up in my mod.

GENTLEMEN!!! It's that time again...

SUNDAY NIGHT SHITSHOW!!!

We're gonna do Fridays and Sundays now, to bring the regularity this server NEEDS!!!

This week we're playing Greenwar 2!

Now GET IN HERE: 104.128.49.2:10809

>>7330290
If you just want an authentic experience playing Doom, use Chocolate Doom, it emulates the original .exe to perfection, down to the bugs and limitations.

>>7330383
i left that one, but i'll update that pastebin later.
Dorkplaces is garbage as the man who did it.

i'll put retroquad later on, at least the dude needs it, and his sourceport has more potential.

>>7329312
Wrath is great and got a new map few days ago (so the first hub out of three planned is done now).
Ion Fury is great and probably has some player made maps at this point.
Amid Evil is absolute masterpiece and even has some tech innovations in the genre:
https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/tech-blog/amid-evil-crafting-3d-weapons-into-2d-sprites

>>7330457
>id used this pic to create QC machineguns

>>7330457
looks like some 40k shit
not bad

>>7330457
https://twitter.com/mankrip/status/1353469842406461443

>>7330383
>>7330457
Quakespasm-Spiked, vkQuake, and Retroquad are far more deserving than Darkplaces, but DP is still neat for people who like to push their machines.

>>7330048
I wouldn't mind starting it but I'm more interested in Quake mapping than Quake II.
>>7330069
Build Engine mapping is way, way harder to get off the ground than Trenchbroom Quake stuff, which has oodles of tutorials. Cut 'em some slack. This'll be the first community Blood project ever.

>>7330515
I don't have a twitter. How about he make the thing fucking work without needing to fuck with .bat files. Someone send him that.

What's that Quake level pack that's supposed to be really good? Shattered Realms or Ancient Realms or something.

>>7329193
Argument not included.

>>7330573
ARCANE DIMENSIONS I figured it out thanks for nothing /vr/

>>7330584
All me btw you're welcome

>>7330431
What is greenwar 2?
Anyway, I can't join atm. Maybe later if it's still up.

>>7330381
>What am I doing wrong?
Trying to play Doom64 in gzdoom. You can't do that. You need Doom64EX or the new steam port to play D64 as it's a different game

>>7330584
Nigga you gave us like 2 minutes to respond calm down.

>>7330561
he's already working on that, his page is full of updates.
maps and mods option is now a thing

>>7330543
the pastebin has a guide already, but is using the old tools.
also what theme could work?

>>7330620
He's probably some /v/tard that isn't used to this board's slower pace.

is there anything wrong with the .wads packed into eternal? might save a minute later and just take that doom 2 instead of downloading it

>>7330584
Also you should check out "The Undergate" which has over 100 classic maps from before 2007 connected with one start map. There is also "Dimensions of the Past aka DOPA" Which is the unofficial 5th episode of Quake done by one of the guys who worked on expansion packs for the original game. All of the Func_map jams are excellent as well. Have fun Quaker bro!

Playthrough video of map04 of the extra levels of 2048 units of /vr/. Clearly, an unfinished map with lots of STARTAN, HoMs, and all that. But it's playable, and the last fight is quite interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSLD2W1gSIc

>>7330584
HOW DO I INSTALL A SOURCE PORT

>>7330662
I got you covered. Enjoy your new Quaker lifestyle.

>>7330641
they censored the health packs and some wolfenstein stuff

>>7330679
Where are the otes

>>7330679
Turns out I have several of these lying around. I'll upload these as well in case the others don't work/are confusing for whatever reason.

guys how do I get over the depression putting me away from playing? I play like one map and can't go on for a few hours, then play another map and the cycle repeats.

also, "keeper of the seven keys" is a really interesting wad, the level design is keeps pushing you forward all the time, something I haven't experienced before.

>>7330685
>health packs
???

>>7330647
Posting this because most links are dead.
https://web.archive.org/web/20170401042217/http://quakeone.com/forums/quake-talk/single-player/1463-undergate.html

>>7330691
Also if you want to play custom maps or mods then Quakespasm or Quakespasm Spiked are the sourceports to use. They just werk.

I took a quick glance at pic related and I think this is the best one, it's pretty retard proof, really holds your hand through the whole process, I should probably delete the others.

>>7330619
I see. In that case, I'm just going to find the n64 rom. Thanks for the input.

>>7330704
Whoa what the fuck I posted the wrong one
http://quakeone.com/forum/quake-talk/single-player/6770-undergate-re-release

>>7330619
how is the steam port anyway, no bullshit?

>>7330693
I only play one map as well but it's because I get exhausted, maybe I'm getting old lol. I play for like 30 minutes at absolute max and then usually need an hour break where I'm browsing /vr/, watching youtube or anime. Sometimes I will feel like I want to play a game but can't bring myself to do it, it feels like too much effort. In these situations I just force myself to open the game, and start playing as quickly as possible, once I get moving around in the game world the feeling of apathy dissipates quickly. So yeah basically:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0

>>7329798
Looks pretty good.
But I meant what's /vr/ working on collectively??
here is more unfinished map stuff by me

>>7330768
500ml of /vr/ for Blood. It's due this month. The head honcho is collecting the last maps and then boom release.

>>7330689
You mean the soundtrack? The mega in the OP has a Quake folder with the full soundtrack:
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
Just make a "music" folder in the "id1" folder, plop these in there and you should be good to go.

NO THANKS TO /VR/ I AM PLAYING QUAKE ALIEN DIMENSIONS BUT WITH NO MUSIC

>>7330771
Ah, okay.
Well if/when we do Doom I'll be spawning

>>7330815
Damn dude shut the fuck up you got all the help you needed.

>>7328261
Hell Frontier: Episode 1 is now officially an 11-maps episode entering the next round of beta testing. It now incorporates all the maps posted separately for a more logical arrangement.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/115739-hell-frontier-episode-1-11-maps-episode-for-doom-2-currently-in-beta/

It's the WIP wad I've been posting here. Long story short, designed for Doom 2, tested mostly in Crispy Doom. Pistol start strongly recommended.

>>7330768
I re-created the Vsmooth.wad chaingun by hand as a learning experiment, pic related. Now I know I can make it 'from scratch' for a new wad if need be. Basically, I want to be able to mix and match the vsmooth weapons with my own weapons (just alternate sprites/sounds)

>>7328662
I knew the Unreal community would just fucking die sooner or later. I'm glad I took off before the whole thing came crashing down.

>>7330841
woops wrong pic

>>7328325
Is there any Doom streamer more based than Bridgeburner?
>Creator of the year
>Streams for 10 hours at a time
>Metal always playing in the background
>Always uses GZDoom with dynamic lights and freelook
>Homies on voicechat
>Shredded as fuark and mogs the average Doomcel
>Makes the most detailed maps GZDoom can possibly handle

>>7330815
The solution to your problem is literally right above your post

WHY ARE MY SMOKE PUFFS WEIRD CIRCLES LIKE THIS, WHERES THE COOL PIXEL SHIT

>>7330887
ignore it, is a baiting shitposter.

When I select Extended DeHackEd in WhackEd, I get access to 4000 states to play with. What source ports can play this? PrBoom with no complevel?

>>7330887
what the fuck is this image?

>>7330887
IT'S OKAY I FIGURED IT OUT EARLIER

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN QUAKESPASM AND QUAKESPASM SPIKED?

>>7330934
The latter has alcohol and should not be served to those under the age of 21.

>>7330891
If you want the classic crunchy pixels look I got what you need.

Open up Notepad, paste this in it:
gl_texturemode gl_nearest
r_particles 2
crosshair "1"

Save it in your "id1" folder as "autoexec.cfg". Now start up the game and you got that delicious crunch.

>>7330925
Pathologic 2

>>7330925
Exactly

>>7330293
That's...... odd.

>>7330942
THANK YOU KIND SOUL YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE TO HELP ME IN THIS AWFUL THREAD

>>7330920
From https://doomwiki.org/wiki/DEHEXTRA

>Doom Retro
>Crispy Doom
>Eternity Engine
>GZDoom
>PrBoom+ (UMAPINFO branch by Graf Zahl)

>>7330293
he's not wrong

>>7330942
If you want to go EVEN FURTHER BEYOND then play at the lowest resolution you possibly can as well.

>>7330827
It's fine, I want to get as many people into Quake as possible. Zooms have been brought up in world where all the pain the butt stuff is done for them automatically, they're not accustomed to manually installing patches, fucking with config files, messing around with the game using the command line and all that shit. It's not their fault and I don't mind helping out, no big deal.

>>7330992
t. mad he's too dumb to figure out how to bhop

>>7330984
Yea dude I'm looking at this now. This is fucking NUTS. I think with this many states, you can recreate complex monsters like the Valiant pyroknight in Crispy Doom!

THIS IS REALLY COOL AND ALL BUT THE TEXT IS SUPER SMALL AND I CANT TELL WHAT EPIC LOOT IM PICKING UP

>>7330934
Just stick with Quakespasm. The changes that Spiked has won't matter to casual players at all and there aren't any worthwhile maps that utilize any of it's features, so using it is pretty pointless, everyone just sticks to regular QS.

>>7331007
>If you want to go EVEN FURTHER BEYOND then play at the lowest resolution you possibly can as well.
you can also crank r_scale for extra crunch while maintaining your native resolution

>>7331008
Romero styling on Carmack in Deathmatch with the bunnyhop technique was the last straw that led to him being fired from the company.

>>7331052
BUT IM ALREADY USING SPIKED, IS MY LIFE RUINED?

>>7330992
Sure but that's what CS is/was for. Let Quake MP be Quake MP.

NO
I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO SANDY'S PIT
NOOOOO

CONSOLE FONT IS TOO SMALL, HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO READ WHAT I PICKED UP??

>>7331042
I'm not sure how it is with Spiked, but with regular QS in the options menu there is "Scale" with a slider, try increasing that. I play at really low res so the HUD and text is hueg, as a result I don't have this problem.

>>7331068
Anything that works with regular QS should work fine with Spiked, no worries bro.

Why do i feel that this shit is a raid?

>>7331110
scr_conscale

>>7331106
>51 rockets
C'mon son
>>7331110
>Skill 2
>Still on Hanger16
Holy FUCK you guys are bad

>>7331115
Because you are a paranoid schizophrenic.

>>7331115
>people ask questions that can be answered in one to two sentences rather than read the 30k word essay paste bins and infographs
>anon assumes he is being raided

>>7331123
WOW AMAZING
RUSH THRU A GAME = STUPID ZOOMER
TAKE TIME TRYING TO FIX SETTINGS TO MAXIMIZE EXPERIENCE = RETARD SHITTER

>>7331139
Dumb frogposter

>>7331106
It was definitely my favorite part in that map by far. Gleefully pelting them with grenades, then confusion and then the realisation sets in as I frantically try to battle against my inevitable and inescapable fate. Basically this reaction image personified.

>>7331146
T. GUY WHO RUSHED THROUGH ALTERNATE DIMENSIONS IN 5 HOURS AND GAVE IT A 7/10

>>7331115
Even if it is, people in this thread curious about getting into Quake are receiving some really good info.

>>7330695
The Red Cross owns the rights and all to a red cross on a white background representing medical aid, and they've been throwing their weight around in recent years, threatening various publishers and devs over the use of their logo (though in my opinion this is practically like a genericized trademark).

The result is, new games don't feature red crosses on white medikites anymore (or ambulances), and re-releases of old games will now edit them out. Different re-releaeses have different approaches, Doom initially had them replaced with red and white pills in the PS3/360 days, and Duke would do the same, Quake 2 would substitute it with that ugly blue symbol you might see on some ambulances, I don't know what it's called. The recent ports of Doom simple colored the crosses green instead, the rerelease of Doom 64 coloring the crosses bright blue.

Then there's the Wolfenstein 3D levels in Doom 2, and the Waffen SS troopers, due to classifications and ratings in Germany giving entertainment products a hard time for featuring Nazis and Hitler (even in the context of blasting them into pieces for score), the swastikas are replaced with a generic symbol as seen in the Euro releases of the later Wolfenstein games, and they shave off Hitler's mustache, the "Schutzstaffel!" voiceline is also dubbed over. For new AAA releases of series like Wolfenstein, they will apparently do a separate German version, but re-releasing old games, publishers very seldom bother doing that.

This is kinda shitty, but it's a lot better than how goddamn lazy it was in the 360/PS3 era, where they just really shittily turned the SS troopers into regular Zombiemen with fucked up offsets, then just removed all the Wolf 3D/Nazi references from MAP31 and MAP32, leaving the walls bare and playing .midis from previous levels.

Supposedly though, German ratings have become more lenient in recent years.

>>7331164
>though in my opinion this is practically like a genericized trademark).
Yeah it's like when people say they'll "google" something.

THIS GAME IS SCARY

>>7331164
The reason they've been throwing their weight around isn't a sinister power trip to be fair. It's because of they fail to protect their trademark they won't have legal standing to protect it when it actually matters.

Holy shit, you guys who like Vanilla Doom Smooth Weapons and Doom Sprite Fix and Crispy Doom, check these out
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/84859-black-ops-smooth-weapons-dehacked-mod/
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/thread/85991
They work in Crispy Doom and DSDA-Doom and Doom Retro and GZDoom. PrBoom 2.5.1.4 hasn't been updated in years so it doesn't have DEHEXTRA

>>7330726
As far as being a port of Doom 64, it's pretty good, it lets you customize your controls as you want, you can turn off the Nintendo 64 style of blurry filtering, and you can even toggle between normal red blood for monsters, and the green blood which is what they got in Japan. The new release also comes with a bonus episode, which I thought was pretty good.

Overall, it's basically a polished up version of Doom 64EX (same lead dev), but it doesn't let you do stuff like jumping or using freelook, to keep it strictly like the original game. The big downside though is that it can't really run any custom content, like mapsets, at least not what I'm aware of.

>>7331187
heaven forbid the blood harvesting company have legal troubles

reminder that 95% of all blood donated is white blood

>>7331206
>>>/pol/

>>7330826
There's been talks of another Doom project.

>>7331206
okay

>>7331206
What did he mean by this?

>>7331206
>reminder that 95% of all blood donated is white blood
this is a good thing, imagine you've been in an accident and receive a transfusion of aids and crack ridden nigger blood

ALTERNED DIMENSIONS IS HARD AND SCARY

>>7331229
That happens anyway afaik, they can't ask people about whether or not they have AIDS anymore.

>>7330431
and that concludes the SUNDAY NIGHT SHITSHOW!!!
Thanks for attending everyone, it was amazing!

>>7331106

>>7331257
Always good to frag with you guys, thanks for hosting.

>>7331257
Thanks as always for hosting. Sorry I had to dip before the last map.

>>7331259
Odd looking duck. Something about his eyes... hypnotic.

>>7331147
It's probably my favorite trap in any FPS game, just slowly shoving you into that pit of bullshit. It makes me laugh every time I think about it.

>>7331241
Only in California, which is why it needs to be walled off from the rest of the world.

>>7331161
Thanks a lot, now I'm gonna be calling it Alternate Dimensions in my head.

WHATS WITH THESE GHOST PICK UPS THEY'RE SPOOKY

>>7331085
obviously, it's cemented now after more than 20 years

>>7331164
I'd stand my ground, this isn't even a copyright so much as part of the geneva convention isn't it?
Let's watch the laughingstocks take a vidya dev to fucking international court as a war criminal

How do I create a new thing? I was gonna try to make a grey imp with different properties (a la hg.wad) but I can't find my renamed new sprites (GIMP**)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5bDzqBcRM8

this has to be one of the few maps with modeled trucks that i saw in years

Is this gonna work bros? I know to also check the boxes in the things tab as well

>>7331387
also the upscaled env skyboxes are neat

THIS GAME IS COOL

>>7331437
IT WORKS
IT FUCKING WORKS

>>7331542
DEHACKED PROJECT WHEN

>>7331106
the first time I fell into this I was mad

>>7331371
I didn't know there was a whole genre called Doom Arena on youtube. Will be a good timekiller.

>>7331241
lol, where the fuck do you live
I can't donate because I had hepatitis... when I was 6 years old

Alright, now if only I knew what the things block is, then I could make them drop items, too

>>7328424
This really makes me want to play Nethack, Angband, and other rougelikes (real roguelikes, not what zoomers call RLs).

>>7331568
I figured it out, but the type numbers do not correspond to the thing ID numbers, pic related is what the imp dropped

>>7331596
Ah, 17 refers to the index number, not the ID number

>>7331206
It's more about whether or not a nation can use the red cross as decoys.
Anyone could, but not without violating national treaty. Laws. Blah blah blah.

Trying a new workflow to produce seamless skies with Blender for GZDoom. With just a little bit of clean up in GIMP, the Sky tiles fine, although, I have to raise the mountains up. It takes very little to occlude them entirely. GZDoom appears to be sinking the image down a number of pixels, because the things on the horizon, really should be much higher, it's like the bottom has been cropped by GZDoom automatically (I'll post the sky image next post). Anyway, I'm torn. I like the idea that maps can be played on any source port or vanilla, but png skies just look so good.

Forgot pic.

>>7331614
And here's the sky graphic (I'm posting it here in the public domain, so use it however you want, if you want). As you can see, much of it is below the horizon for some reason. Anyone know why?

maybe make the horizon in the picture closer to the center of the image? here is another example sky

>>7331628
That's likely the best option, the mountains need to be taller anyway, but I wonder why GZDoom seems to put the bottom of the image so low.

THIS PART OF ALTERNATE DIMENSIONS IS LITERALLY LIKE DARK SOULS (AND SCARY SPOOKY TOO)

I want to try my luck in recreating the pyroknight but this fucker has two different attacks. I wonder if my strategy of just copying everything will work again this time

>>7331517
THIS GAME IS ALSO SCARY AND GIVES DEMON'S SOULS VIBES

>>7331106
Someone needs to make a mod that removes Spawns and replaces them with Shamblers already.

>>7331542
congrats anon!

>>7331757
what if Spawns were capable of Shambler lightning attack while on the move?

>>7331651
IT WORKS
I JUST MADE A PYROKNIGHT FOR CRISPY DOOM

>>7331905
Neat. Just out of curiosity, how did you get the two attacks? The way I do it is to just have the chase states run into an attack, then back to the start of the chase loop, but you could have the attack loop just run two attacks also.

>>7331905
that's awesome. pyroknight is a brilliant enemy

desu i like valiant's imp as well, actually manages to make them have some damage output, and the 1+1 style attack changes the imp meta

>>7331930
I just copied what was already inside the Valiant dehacked - create the two different attack cycles in the states, and give one to the melee attack and one to the ranged attack.

Valiant uses a state with a RandomJump action to randomly choose an attack. Original Doom does not have this action, so Crispy Doom simply ignores it and it runs straight to the 2nd attack

>>7331976
Wait, nevermind, I incorrectly assigned the 2nd (ranged) attack to the 2nd attack cycle, instead of to the RandomJump action, like in Valiant. That's why it was only doing that attack at distance. I corrected that and works, now he does both attacks at range. So Crispy Doom CAN read the code pointer, since it's in DEHEXTRA which Crispy can read

just to clear it up since I explained it poorly.

Don't ask me how the randomjump thing works because I don't know. I only listed one of the attacks in the parameters, like in Valiant, and it seems to work as intended

>>7331186
I dont remember Hexen 2 Yakmen in my Quake...

>>7331993
can you also transmute lead to gold irl ?

Which one of you nerds is DDoSing Doomworld? They are on to you!
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/119365-dw-loads-really-slow-rn/

>>7332018
This is so gay oh my god

>>7332018
pfffffffffthahahahahaha

>>7332018
Me, I also have the login credentials for every user and know what Linguica eats for breakfast every morning.

>>7332079
imagine thinking gatekeeping is a bad thing

>>7332018
>all that kvetching about 4chan

>>7332018
Good to know normalfags still fear the hacker known as 4chan.

How do I load widescreen assests with crispy doom?

>>7328486
>Putting (c) onto a free mod for a game you didn't make that meshes 2 diferent IPs
gotta love russian community
so little fucks about copyrights

anybody know any lesser known wads that are golden

>>7332118
dee dee oh ess
oh it's time to stress~

damnit I fucking love grabbag

Is there any tweak/patch/mod/tool to make Marathon (Aleph One) controls to not suck balls as much?

What do you lads think of this custom Cultist action figure?

>>7332223
I dig it

Has anyone tried this?
https://www.moddb.com/games/blood/addons/cultists-with-correct-guns

>>7332132
That's a great question... I can't think of anything amazing that didn't win or get mentioned for a Cacoward.

>>7332018
Maybe Alf DDoSed them.

>>7331620
>much of it is below the horizon for some reason
it's ok, looks like a lava fall

this is so cool. i copied the rocket/machinegun behavior of the eviternity cybruiser, and added the walking sound of the valiant cybruiser (because such a deadly enemy needs a walking sound), all working in crispy doom

>>7332018
I'd like to know how to ddos from a single ip

>>7332181
whats so bad about them

>>7332223
I think it looks amazing. I want it to replace the cultist sprites.

One of the weirder things about playing old games is realizing you played maps that were inspired by them a lot in newer games

>>7332294
not him but the mouse input is terrible. it's hard to describe, but it's kind of like mouse acceleration is constantly on, the input scales weirdly and is different for the x and y axes, it's not like in duke or quake where you move the mouse and the view moves in a consistent and intuitive way. even after hours of tweaking the mouse settings the game still gives me hand cramps to play
the other controls are all fine in my opinion though

>>7332325
Turning off mouse auto-adjust made the game feel good to me.

>>7332223
marinated phallus

>>7332328
I've done everything there is to do, it was actually brought up in a github bug report. basically it comes down to engine quirks that would take a while to fix, and judging by the fact that this was posted in 2015 with no progress since, I doubt they ever will
https://github.com/Aleph-One-Marathon/alephone/issues/17

>>7332265
man, that sounds cool as fuck. I'm liking this new trend of pushing dehacked to its limit and backporting stuff like that doom 4 for vanilla mod.

>>7332228
works on buildgdx its cool

>>7332391
This is extended dehacked, so you have something like 3000 extra states to use. Not vanilla compatible iirc, since the original exe doesn't have the pointers to deal with it. But it's still neat. Especially for port compatibility.

>>7331796
What if spawns could reproduce asexually and spit out infinite extra tarbabies?
Oh wait, some psycho at Rogue already thought of that

Played the HL1 expansions, first OF and then Blue Shift like an anon suggested. It was a good suggestion, OF definitely felt like a fuller experience (but I knew going into Blue Shift that it was just a bonus mission so my expectations were set accordingly).
That moment in OF where you get teleported to Xen for all of five seconds and then come back after one short platforming section is a better scare than anything intended by the devs of any HL game
Going to see if I can bug one of my friends into play through HL1 so I can subsequently bug him into playing Decay with me.

>>7332435
you can play decay solo, the fan port has a mind swap button so you can jump between both characters to do puzzles, which can be annoying but doable
it adds an odd layer of resource management as you need to decide who gets what ammo and goes into what combat encounter, since there are no checkpoints, but playing that way is mostly a tedious experience for people really determined to play it
also try uplink while you're at it, little stand alone demo made like a week before release, takes 20 minutes total

>>7332435
Looking through some Decay footage, I'm pretty sure I played this in Sven Co-op before. I don't remember the story parts like intro but idk if we skipped it or whoever ported it just put the combat maps in
You might consider checking if there is a full Decay in Sven if you can't find anybody to play the actual version

>>7332435
you do realize that not-bfg in OF has alt-fire that teleports you to Xen multiple times?

Why the fuck is Lunar Apocalypse twice the length of L.A. Meltdown?

>>7332435
I was actually going to post in this thread looking for the same thing, but never did. I just played through all the Half-Life games and the only one I didn't play was Decay because switching between two players is annoying to me.

So if you want to play it, keep an eye for me in the server list. I'll be the only one playing the game. There's a couple of empty servers, but never anyone on them.

>>7332595
Are the mod files just installed by the server when you join it? I know Source engine games can do that, but I've never tried playing a Goldsrc game online so I wasn't aware if it has the same behavior.

>>7332604
No, if you go to the HL community page on Steam, in the guides there will be a guide to install Decay. After it's installed, it shows up separately in your game list.

If you're using eduke or gdx anyway, is there any difference between Megaton and World Tour? You can copy Megaton's expansions to WT folder and play them there

>>7332649
World Tour has changed assets that suck.

>>7328662
>ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED
???

>>7332265
Dude if you keep going we can actually do a /vr/ Doom project involving a Dehacked enemy set.

Blade of Agony chapter 3 released this first quarter!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx7af6k_JCc

>>7332672
the site is down, that was the point of his post

>>7332704
Can't wait for the godawful performance issues.

>>7332739
a lot of that has been addressed.

>>7332704
Never played it but I think it's shit.

>>7328261
Hellevator is on idgames now
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/helevtor

So if you were against playing betas before, you can finally play the definitive edition.

>>7332265
Isn't this enemy from Demon Eclipse?

>>7332767
How difficult is it? I was considering playing it, but some people were claiming that some of the levels are on par with Black Crest, and I can't handle that.

>>7332784
Due to speedmapping nature of the project, difficulty curve is a little messed up, there's some spikes and dips here and there (For example MAP18 is one of the easiest) MAP27 and MAP28 are really hard and you might want to skip them but the rest are manageable. MAP09 and MAP10 are gimmicky puzzle maps some have more problems with them than the others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGaTBZ51YDM

clean as fuck editing

Does anybody recognize this status bar?

I nabbed it from Dinomensch, but i've been trying to figure out the original source.

I have no clue where it's from, and combing through /idgames hasn't turned up much.

I even e-mailed Impie, asking where he got it, and he said he didn't know either.

In absence of other options, i have decided to turn here for assistance.

Is there any difference between Killbilly and Psychobilly difficulties in Redneck Rampage except for saving not being allowed in Psycho?

>>7332941
the real question is why you're bothering to play that garbage

>>7332391
>pushing dehacked to its limit
Dude I don't know anything about coding or modding, aside from copy/pasting sprites and sounds in Slade. I just watched a 20-something minute dehacked tutorial video by Doomkid, and then started plugging numbers from one table into another in WhackEd. It's super easy, but super tedious. That's what I want to stress: I'm a total noob and it's as easy as plugging numbers from one table to another. Nothing I am doing is cutting edge, lol, aside from how bad assed extended dehacked is. Someone worked really hard on this, and you people should use it.

I dunno what you mean about the D4V mod. I'm the anon who made that short D4V map so far. I haven't tried recreating the D4V monsters in dehacked since it'd also involve changing all the projectiles, but I imagine it's all the same thing I've been doing. I'll actually take a look and see how the teleporting archvile or how the timed exploding projectiles are made

>>7332697
>Dude if you keep going
Anybody can do this!

>>7332972
It isn't that bad so far, the quality of levels vary a lot but from what I'm told with its expansion and sequel they kept improving
One problem is this game is too easy, it has health resources everywhere you pretty much have to commit suicide to die

Is it really this fuckin easy? The green exploding D4V projectiles are made by turning off the no gravity flag, having the flying frames lead into the death frames, and add an explode action. The true genius here is this having been made without extended dehacked, all vanilla compatible

>>7333016
I would not describe DeHacked as simple or elegant...

I see - the teleporting arch-vile is an illusion. The duration of the movement frames are shortened to one, so it gives the illusion of teleportation, but it's just doing the same thing as a turbo pinky, it's movement frames are reduced to 1 duration

>>7333030
I meant Noiser's solution to the problem of how to create a grenade-like projectile is way simpler than I imagined

I thought that you could not shoot the summer as it was teleporting, but I see nothing in the dehacked that would indicate that, so I think it just moves so fast that you can't tell if you're hitting it or not

>>7333016
There's actually quite a lot that you can do with DeHacked with some effort and patience. Batman Doom is still pretty fucking impressive over 20 years later.

I don't know if I can add additional actions. Without new actions, you will always be limited to changing a small number of different attack types (imp fireball/caco fireball/baron fireball/etc.) instead of just creating all-new attacks as many times as you want

>>7332649
World Tour has some modifications, mist notably the sound. While there are some cool redux Duke lines by Jon St. John, the overall sound quality sucks dick. And it's not an engine problem, sadly.

>>7331517
Turn off caps lock already nigga

The astral cacodemon charge is made by facing the player, charging very quickly, and firing muliple projectiles in the same frame. I see now - the monster will go in the same direction and only change direction at the end of one complete cycle of animations, which is why FaceTarget then Chase with 1 duration will cause the monster to charge in a straight line

>>7332979
Nevermind, I understood what you meant about D4V. You were just saying you like it. My bad, I had just woken up so my reading comprehension was bad

>>7332018
He can't keep getting away with this!

>>7329141
A secret, obviously.

>>7332704
>released
>is not released
>Dec 5, 2020 teaser

>>7329141
I can show you but you have to enter here

I'm missing something - the cybermancubus melee attack uses VileAttack to send you flying, but it only causes 20 damage, compared to the ~90 damage of the arch-vile. I know the arch-vile attack causes splash damage, hence the ~70 extra damage, but I don't see why the cybermanc doesn't cause the splash damage and the vile does.

Does anyone have cool ideas for a monster they wish they had? Here is what I have so far
https://litter.catbox.moe/n5ccjm.zip
Open it up in a map editor and use thing number 99-101 to see the new monsters. 99 is grey imp from hg.wad, 100 is valiant pyroknight (its missing the custom projectiles but monster behavior is same, its just a test) and 101 is the cybruiser

>>7333189
What I personally want is someone who shoots are really powerful attack but takes a lot of time to fire so as long as you moving it won't hit you. But I don't think it's possible.

>>7333192
Afaik the largest a splash can be is the 128 map units. The D4V cybermancubus covers the ground in time-delayed exploding projectiles but that involves replacing an existing projectile, in this case the baron one is replaced

>>7328316
Speaking of which, I myself am importing sprites from another game to make monsters, and need to make them all slightly bigger using TEXTURES. Is there any way to do this without defining each individual frame for each monster, one at a time?

>>7329008
You can turn off vertical movement on Chocolate as well

>>7333030
I disagree 100%

>>7332079
the only people that complain about gatekeeping are the ones the gate is meant to keep out.

So guys, what your thoughts on ULTRAKILL?

>>7332704
I really hope so, every time I try to play I run into a different problem.

>>7332352
Booted the game up and I can now see that problem. Guess it didn't really effect me as I use a high sensitivity.

>>7328737

>>7333238
I played the demo and I didn't quite get the hype behind it, but then again it seems like speedrunner-bait games are in vogue so it's probably just me.

DemonSteele is pretty fun, it's like playing Devil May Cry in first person

>>7332532
I forgot about that. Man, at the time OF was a great little expansion.

>>7332435
The series is based because it makes one faggot eternally seethe.
Just look at this guy lol >>7333203

>>7333238
It's my favorite of the retro inspired FPS games over the last few years, I like the movement and the weapons and the enemies and the music and the art direction and everything about it really. My only issue is that your combo meter seems almost entirely cosmetic, I feel like it should have more functionality.

>>7333189
The VileTarget code pointer causes the enemy that used it to permanently add splash damage to its Vile Attacks. Since the mancubus never does this its attacks always do 20 damage.

What Retro/Retro-Inspired FPS has your favorite movement style, /doom/? Whether it's for its complexity or for just how satisfying it is.

>>7330048
Anyone willing to finish the Oblivion mod's final map to finish its storyline? I mean even the cancelled Unseen MP despite being overall crap at least had a proper ending

>>7328259
So what's the difference between all these ports? Are they free or something? I just ended up buying the steam ones and they ran and looked fine to me.

>>7333575
Quake 1 or Half Life 1. Bunny hopping and jumping is fun. Strafe jumping in q2 is boring

>>7333597
Is Quake 3's movement different at all from 2's? I know it's essentially the same style, but I always felt like the way 3 handled strafejumping was different somehow, probably that it had slightly more air control than 2's.

>>7333581
It wouldn't be a bad idea
also Moddb's post also has Oblivion's source code in it along wit hthe music
https://www.moddb.com/mods/turoktirol/downloads/oblivion1

it could even help Markshan knightmare since Oblivion has issues with KMQ2

>>7333639
Never played much of 3 so I don't know.

>>7328480
>playing custom maps

What's your opinion on Duke Nukem's episode 5? Best maps, worst maps, new enemy, new weapon, overall experience.

Don't post on the cycloid recolor. We all know it stinks.

>>7332396
Didnt AD already had brought them back as minibosses of the swamp level?

>>7333502
TY anon. I think the biggest takeaway from all this is, it's easy to make these monsters, and the hard part is actually making good maps to use them in.

I added the Valiant super imp and the Valiant imp/baron projectile sprites and speeds, pic related

I just figured out how to access the custom sounds slots, so I can stop replacing Keen and SS sounds. Just rename the sound DSFRExxx and point to them with numbers 500 to whatever

>>7333575
Spoilered aren't retro for this board:
Q3 > CPMA > Q1 > Blood > Dusk > Doom > Urban Terror > Q2 > PainKiller > The Specialists > Amid Evil > Grounded & Techless FPS Trash.

Blood's up there for how smooth it feels to move around in spite of keyboard movement.
Amid Evil is low for how disgustingly floaty it feels.
There's probably other shit out there like certain Quake Champion characters (crouchsliding!) but I don't want to blogpost.

Honestly, give me some form of bhopping and I'm a happy man.

>>7333421
alf is coping hard after the civvie video

>>7333720
Q3A felt like a Downgrade compared to Q2's movement

>>7333654
Why do you not like mod content? For SW they are not as bad as I expected, but I don't think there is anything like Death Wish for it

>>7333720
Painkiller's movement was really simplistic compared to Quake 1's (which is what PK's is based off of, or at least that's what it feels like), but it was still really fun to do.

How do the doom games (the first 2, final doom, and 64) hold up compared to other old shooters like shadow warrior, duke nukem, or quake?

>>7333735
I haven't played Q2 multiplayer but it feels like a more floaty Q3 in SP to me.
>>7333746
My main issue with PK's is that it feels like the directions you can bhop in are angle snapped like an arcade stick. It kind of reminds me of UT in a way.

>>7333720
>CPMA
Whats this

>>7333720
Why do people never discuss Serious Sam here? Even when talking about not retro games it's not mentioned

honestly most of the time i see someone rank q3 high i feel it is more likely they're trying to impress others by how much of an elite arena fps gamer they are, rather than that they actually enjoy it

>>7333801
They are kinda bland games with not much variety.

>>7333801
It's pretty much a wave shooter. It's fine, but there's not a lot to say.

>>7333785
Challenge ProMode Arena - it's a Quake 3 MP mod that combines both Q3 & Q1 jumping techniques (e.g. build speed with Q3 bhops and turn around tight corners swiftly with Q1's directional turning physics), and has low TTK like Q1.

>>7333801
because non doom fps filter people here

>>7333801
It's pretty simplistic even compared to Doom. That doesn't mean it's bad, but there isn't much to talk about it.
Standard weapons, mostly standard enemy archetypes and pretty bland level design (unless we're going to talk about platforming secrets, fuck those).

>>7333720
Spoilered are fine to post here, I'm not going to /v/ to talk about those and sure as hell not waiting 20 years until I can talk about them here.

>>7333575
Tribes

I made a super shotgunner who has the same health as a chaingunner and he uses the same refire check as a chaingunner to keep attacking. His rate of fire is really slow. He does not replace the original shotgunner so you can use them both in the same map.

>>7333645
BTW how /vr/ would design Oblivion's Final Map?
is there even any model related to the planned Behemoth Boss?

>>7333781
Just play them and find out for yourself. It's a fun journey.
But to sum it up, Doom is more primitive than any of those games but is still a lot of fun due to the superb weapon/enemy roster. Duke and Shadow Warrior have very cool locations & effects, but the gameplay just doesnt flow as well as Doom. Quake has great gameplay too though, it's a bit different because there's fewer but tougher enemies.

>>7334059
Oh I have been playing them, they're super fun and I love them, I'm just trying to see if, when I finish final doom, I should stick with doom and just play more wads and maybe try nightmare, or maybe spend some time playing quake or some other game for a bit.

>>7333781
Doom isn't a video game.
Doom is the vortex/nexus/nucleus at the center of the idea of video games.
https://youtu.be/38zduHkwGcc

>>7333965
You should use the Skulltag version of the ssg zombie, would make sense has to why it has it's health

I fucking hate this stupid chicken. Does he actually think the defaults look... good?
Thank God the bethesda official ports are vanilla friendly, at least. I can't imagine how many people have gone to play the classics for the first time just to get greeted by gz's dogshit defaults.