/vr/ - Retro Games

No alfs

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
500ml of /vr/
BETA, UPDATED:
https://archive.org/details/500ml-vr-halloween-beta
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/7041037/#7043379
https://discord.gg/F968y8Wj4x

=== NEWS ===
[1-18] The Force Engine update!
https://theforceengine.github.io/2021/01/18/TFE-Update-2021-Plans.html

[1-17]Backwoods demo release
https://twitter.com/Shorted_Fuse/status/1350601620338434049

[1-15]Time Tripper, a Doom II episode with custom conent and minor gameplay changes
https://heckscaper.com/tt/

[1-15]Wrath: Aeon of RUIN Updated
https://steamcommunity.com/games/1000410/announcements/detail/4589698632264671265
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2N12cxEXVs [Embed]

[1-13] vkQuake updated
https://github.com/Novum/vkQuake/releases/tag/1.05.2

[1-12] YamagiQ2 testbuild with vulkan
https://github.com/yquake2/yquake2/pull/643

[1-12] Crispy Doom 5.10.0 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/67168-crispy-doom-5100-update-jan-12-2021/

[1-12] Shrak unofficial patch released
https://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=62008

[1-10] Progs_dump v2.00 released, a dev kit that expands vanilla possibilites for mapping, adds QoL features
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTbkLP3B2FE [Embed]
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1A3v318I8s4ZtbOsW08ok7nY83mAXdOAX/view

[1-9]500ML updated with a new map for playtesting: >>7274097

[1-9]Quakewulf releases Security Terminal for Quake 2
http://quakeulf.suxos.org/3d/maps/console.zip

[1-8] Woof version 3.1.0 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/112333-this-is-woof-310-jan-08-2021-updated-winmbf/

[1-7] Corruption Cards updated to 1.0
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=67939&p=1178053#p1178053

[1-6] Another anon shares a map they made for a larger project (Limit removing, MAP09 slot)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/2ivjew3sw4uipgf/hf09.wad/file

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0/edit?usp=sharing

TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST

Tell me your opinion on slaughter.

god I'm so fucking bad at finding secrets, is there a trick to it? I know it's apparently supposed to be when there's an unaligned bit of geometry or texture but I can never spot it
do I just wallhump or look it up?

>>7309529
It can be anything.
Usually there's some sort of clue, like you mentioned, misaligned or discoloured texture, could be vantage point to a location you haven't actually been able to get to during normal play (outdoors), could be obvious like an valuable item in plain sight but out of reach, or it could be an audio cue like triggering a line that sets off a door/lift in the distance. There's a bunch of stuff.

If you're having a hard time maybe look some up in the wads you're playing now, and then you'll sort of internalize some of the typical cues/hints mappers leave from your experience.

Also some of them are just bullshit lol

Do you doomers collect the different versions/revisions of IWADS/builds? I have a small collection amassed if anyone's interested. Still haven't got a few of them like the BFG edition IWADs, the ones from Doom Classic and the French version of Doom 2.

Pic related is what's in the archive. Link only lasts for 48 hours if anyone wants to mirror it or expand upon it:
https://s3.rokket.space/t_DNFLhc.7z

>>7309529
you get more of a feel for it as time goes on.

>>7309523
It can be fun but it usually isn't. Better with gameplay mods built around it, like pillowblaster or terminus mods

>>7309542
Aren't they in the mega?

>>7309542
Are they on archive.org?

Half Life chads won.

>>7309549
>>7309551
I didn't see any of those in any of the links in the OP. That's why I posted what I have so far. I do own Doom 3 BFG Edition and the PSN collection but I'm currently just too lazy to redownload them to fish the IWADs out of them. I also don't have any of the IWADs for the other id Tech 1 games so I'll need to get started on that.

Half-Life in not the Citizen Kane of video games. On the contrary, it and it's boring linear narrative driven structure ended the era of FPS often referred to as the "Golden Era", widely considered to have began with the release of the Wolfenstein 3D shareware in 1992.

>>7309523
Typically nice to look at.
I have a better experience with tourism.pk3 playing them as walking simulators than actually trying to slog through them.

I understand the appeal of mass-enemy management and it's fun watching someone like decino play through some of those maps when his movement is so smooth and calm.

It's a shame that they seem to be the go-to enemy encounters for a lot of talented mappers, would love to see some of those people be reigned in by more progression-based traditional level design layouts.

>>7309570
keep coping.

>>7309570
>boring linear narrative driven structure
Like Citizen Kane

>>7309578
Citizen Kane isn't really linear

>>7309583
Oh I forgot about the alternate endings

Don't mind me, just taking a look in Dario Casali's lo-

>>7309583
But Doom is.

>>7309587
hdoom behind the coomer door

>You may be a DOOM GOD, but I am the Master of your Universe and all that bow down to you eventually bow down to me. Yes, even YOU, Anon, KNEEL and drink my KNOB after having beaten all who challenge you. Do you dare take on your master, pitiful DOOM GOD?
>Email me and request your ass beating, if you have the balls.

>>7309587
What a great game.
No wonder Civvie likes it.

>Corruption Cards + LegenDoomLite + Champions + Universal Entropy>>7309594

>>7309615
whoops didn't mean to reply to that.
Are there any other good monster modifier mods that I should be aware of?

Number 1: That's terror.

>>7309570
Wolf 3D sucks

>>7309608
I miss KEKKR jokes.

>>7309523
I'm not that good at it, so I don't really enjoy sets which go really heavy on it, I prefer a Plutonia approach where a more modest amount of monsters are used in an aggressive manner against the player.

>>7309629
>>7309640
blast from the past

>>7309684
Here's another.

>>7309610
>Imagine how an FPS game [of that era] starts, right?
>uses Doom as an example while playing with freelook and crosshair

>>7309693
Well at least he didn't play HL with the HD models.
Hope it was the WON version.

>>7309702
HD models are based, but he did play the shitty Steam version.

I wanted to look at Killing Time after seeing it in Civvie's new video. Is there any good way to play it? Preferably without the whole "moving the mouse forwards/backwards moves the character forwards/backwards" shit.

>>7309770
For clarification, I tried out the GOG version with the community patch, but I couldn't get into the mouse options.

>>7309770
Not that I was able to find. I just had to bite the bullet and go pure keyboard.

https://vocaroo.com/1mJGwvW6snC5

Remember that mtpain27 play with a lot of SAVES

>>7309832
I never saw Dan Vs., but from what little I know of him and his voice saying that copypasta is devastating my sides

>>7309849
Remember that talking about e-celebs makes you look like a faggot. Not to mention he even acknowledges that he abuses saves and is not the greatest Doom player.

>>7309570
his hateboner for randy really makes me not interested in his next HL video where he goes into the expansions.

it's just going to be him shitting on the expansions because "gearbox" written on the box.

>>7309849
he also said hell in doom was generic

>>7309523
Not my cup of tea. I prefer wads with the ability to approach encounters in multiple ways. Usually in slaughter, the combat is like a puzzle that only has one pre-set solution.

>>7309693
>civvie thinks gaben will save us from carmack's inevitable creation of skynet
>he doesn't know about gabe's plans for VR

imagine not liking Xen.

>>7309935
This

>>7309951
Xen is a funnel for people who inexplicably can't make use out of Half-Life's generous movement physics and functional first person platforming.

Wah wah wah racism

>>7309594
different kinds of ropes

>>7309964
> xen is a funnel
> funnel
???

>>7309974
>civvie getting cancelled
WE GOT TOO COCKY BROS

>>7309987
>GAEM BEHD

>>7310001
what are you even on about?
a game that funnels usually means it makes people play a certain way

>>7309987
Learn the memes to not be the butthurt.

i finished the thing

>>7309885
But this gives a false idea of the difficulty of the levels, there are times when he gave low difficult grade for certain difficult maps because he savescumming.
Ex: Mancubian Candidate from Valiant, he practically didn't care about having a cyberdemon in a dark, cramped room after an already difficult stage

>>7309974
>>7309991
>politely written response
>canceled
>wah wah racism

yeah ok thanks

>>7310038
whats perf like on map with 100+ cacos in view and this thing active whatever the fuck it is?

>>7309974
Nah, I think original comparison is heckin' cute and valid. I mean, niggers, demons, what's the difference?

>>7309987
the word he's looking for is "filter" in that it FILTERS people who lack the skill to play through a controversial part or mechanic of a game that they assume is poorly designed.
>example = complaining about hitscanners in a FPS.

of course the counter-point to this is that it's also a term used by tryhards who think that making through said part/mechanic makes them special regardless if it's poorly designed or legitimately difficult as a means to overcompensate for whatever shortcomings they have.
>example = bitching about easier controls in a game.

>>7310038
>DO NOT BE AFRAID
>LOL JUST KIDDING WE BE DEMONS N' SHIEET

GUYS, GUYS, THERE'S A HUGE FUCKING PROBLEM!

I made a promise to make at least three transphobic remarks in the last thread, but failed to provide even one. Do I need to make six such remarks in this threads to make it up, or just three because I made no promises about this thread in particular?

>>7309935
>carmack programs the ai
>gaben does the simulation
we matrix now

>>7310082
its just the result of a lot of hitscan and freeze mode
granted, it is more expensive than normal hitscan, but then again when has hitscan alone caused hitching

I just found a really cool sequence skip on 2048 map29.

If you do not kill the arch-vile that spawns in the room behind the red door, you can use him to arch-vile-jump out of the arena that activates when you press the red switch

>>7310116
delet this

>>7310116
>carmack gets distracted by another coming thing
>gaben is too busy consuming hamburger
I think we're safe for now.

>>7309987
>getting sifted by new memes

>thread starts with a few people discussing wads
>derails into hundreds of posts about alf and youtuber ecelebs

see you assholes in 400 posts

>>7310176
Good thing we don't have to endure the presence of your boring face.

Playthrough video of map29 of 2048 units of /vr/ is up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrA4oLIMCuE
I wanted to make a death montage at the end, but apparently I was running out of gum when I started the recording. Also, not opening the red door before the first cyberdemon fight trivializes the aforementioned fight. Amazing level.

EBONY
AND
IVORY

Aeon of ruin's save system is ingenious. Not for casuals

>>7310232
you can get like 20 save skulls on the first map. they are too lenient with it desu

>>7310217
I think it could go without the two arch-viles at the start, since it forces you to wait below for them to appear so you can attack which is boring.

I think I found a really cool speedrun route, but it's luck dependant: you clear the start as usual, but when you press the first switch, you immediately run, grab the red key, activate the red switch, run to the blue key and get blasted out of the arena and grab the soulsphere. Maybe grab soulsphere first for more consistency. This should happen all within like 3 minutes, could be faster too since I cleared the start rather slow with the SSG, could clear start faster with rockets with more optimization. Anyway that's about where I am now

>>7310150
This reminds me of an interview that Newell did for Alyx. Something like "If we keep going the way we are (Valve) our VR tech/game design will be the heat death of every other form of entertainment". It is kind of interesting to see where Carmack is going appose to them. Spooky stuff d e s u

>>7310264
>I think I found a really cool speedrun route, but it's luck dependant: you clear the start as usual, but when you press the first switch, you immediately run, grab the red key, activate the red switch, run to the blue key and get blasted out of the arena and grab the soulsphere. Maybe grab soulsphere first for more consistency. This should happen all within like 3 minutes, could be faster too since I cleared the start rather slow with the SSG, could clear start faster with rockets with more optimization. Anyway that's about where I am now
Huh, that's interesting. Will you record a demo?

>>7310264
Because you didn't kill the starting pain elementals, the room fills will lost souls which is a disaster, and you have to run and grab the plasma gun then run and flip the blue switch (arch-vile spawns here). If you pull this off, the spiderdemon doesn't spawn, but the yellow key does, and you can grab it and flip the yellow switch. You can theoretically do all this back to back but you get blocked by stuff as you run so you gotta shoot. You get more plasma once you flip the blue switch so you can use the plasma rifle as soon as you get it

I see that you double fags are talking about Cripplevvie's shit bait to attract Alf and his fag friends.

so i'll return later
also i see that he sucks dick at that game as the fake boomer that he is, who doesnt know how to quakespeed all of it

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/73426-share-your-sprites/?page=40&tab=comments#comment-2246767
doomguy's hud face in doom 64
seems to be based on that one latex model image

>try playing marathon
>get lost on the first level

>>7310287
I'll try to record one with the arch-vile trick. The other stuff is me just theory-crafting, since you'd have to get the luck of the arch-vile-jump then get lucky running to all the switches

>>7310303
The beginning of Marathon 1 looks more like the inside of a small stone Temple than a late 21st century sleeper ship.

>>7310295
He didn't understand Surface Tension.

>>7310295
Stick around, Do your part, share whatever fren

>>7309974
>but muh obscure eurotrash did x first
maybe if it was a better film it wouldn't be outshined by a KKK feature to this day

Damn, this section breaks if you rush the level. I didn't cheat, I rushed all the sections as fast as I could with saves, and I got here around 5.5 min, and that was using SSG to clear start instead of rockets

>>7309832
Did you make this? It's hilarious.

>>7309974
>literally every single film scholar of note agree that birth of a nation is a landmark in film history
>this youtube comment faggot says they're all wrong

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>7310530
Also woodrow wilson being a racist was the least bad thing about his presidency. That was the decade america turned on the wrong path and we never got right again.

>>7309587
AAAAAAAAAAAA

>>7310529
15.ai, it's all the rage now.

>>7310296
It's a little on the stiff side

Retard janny, it wasn't ironic, I'm dead fucking serious here.

>>7308961
does the anon that asked me for this map still has the file?
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4800256/#q4801301

>>7310295
>running Quake 2 in software
speaking of fake boomers

what fps /vr/ likes?

>>7310180
no but we have to endure the presence of your shiity comebacks.
>>7310176
just like the last dozen or so of the fucking threads

>>7310232
>Aeon of ruin's save system is ingenious
no it's not. daikatana had the same system before v1.1

>>7310742
>he doesnt know
Speaking of civvie discord tourists

Take the 3D pill.

Don't worry a Errant Signal video about 1996 fps is coming.
He will do Quake and Duke justice.

Hey guys, I sure do like them (checks hand) shoomer booters. Also, two threads ago I made a foolish promise to make three transphobic comments in a next thread, and failed to keep it. Should I raise it up to six in this thread, or just chill and make three as I originally planned?

>he doesn't like the first MOH and COD games
explain yourselves

>>7310864
Lmao do it fag.

>>7310889
I mean, you can't rush these things, I need a certain context and inspiration for it to come naturally. We still have 400 posts to go, just be patient, my friend. Sure love'em booty shoppers, right?

2007 was the last good year for fps.

I hate what this site has become so fucking much.

>>7310936
Wide range of applicable topics and communities + no barrier of entry beyond shitposting and jannies = mass trash posts

>>7310886
PS1 MOH is the reason of why FPS games became so shit
PC MOH which AA is based and escaped that shit, PA not so much but is stupidly hard. also the 1st at least supports custom levels since is idtech3 and the MP was neat.
as for CoD, RTCW was better.

>>7310936
>filter posts with 20 or more quote links

very based anon.

>>7310936
Cope, cringe and dilate, you Civvie-hating tranny.

>>7310243
I remember seeing bitching on steam about the save system being too hard so now it's too generous.

>>7310962
the lines that start with # are ignored, those are just guidelines for formatting. I like seeing major gets.

I tried to filter based but quickly discovered a lot of people use it correctly and not in the meme manner.

>>7310232
Ripping off souls games in 2020 isn't fresh or exciting

>>7310969
based is so harmless honestly, unless I missed something

>>7310953
For the more popular boards I'd blame the increase in traffic - /v/ is absurdly fast these days, literally every thread on there lasts under an hour.

We really don't have any excuse though. /vr/ averages under 3 posts per min, our shitposting ratio is way too high given the relatively slow pace of the board, which indicates to me we have actual dedicated shitposting speds infesting the board.

https://4stats.io/

>>7310972
It's just fucking annoying scrolling down and seeing 20 posts that are one word "based" replies.

>>7310972
He's just a thin-skinned tranny tourist. Real men browse with no filters, for we are afraid of no shitpost.

>>7310972
It's a meaningless filler word used almost exclusively by underage and offsite posters. It might have been worth unfiltering 5 years ago but today? No.

>>7310974
>more than half are mobile users

and people wonder why OC died

>>7310981
>Gargling shit
It makes you strong and aids your immune system

>>7310886
It's been forever since I've played Allied Assault. Cod 1 and UO are amazing. I love them. I wish CoD 2 had all the features of UO. It kills me that the soviet campaign for CoD 2 just sort of ends. The atmosphere in those levels are amazing. The mission "Demolition" is probably my favorite. The ending always gives me goosebumps, and my goodness, the soundtrack of the soviet campaign is just perfect. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V12qpQtK9Ss

>>7310974
We do in fact have dedicated shitposters, yeah. It's way worse cause they keep evading/getting responses

>>7310986
If you see shit on the street, do you
>gargle it
>cover it with newspaper and pester every passer-by about what you just did
>just, like, fucking ignore it

>>7310936
>I hate what this site has become
\/\/|-|@7 d1d h3 /\/\3@/\/ by th15?

>>7310992

>>7310705

>>7310936
if you're putting the /I on it you don't need the duplicates mate.

>>7311006
That architecture is seriously impressive and those are great textures for when you're just STARTAN out.

>>7309523
On one hand, I'm usually not a fan of them.
On other hand, I'm currently enjoying my NAM playthrough.

>>7309770
If I remember even if you could mouse control it that game has a quirk where you stick to walls if you touch them, combined with all the narrow corridors and bullet sponge enemies it's a real slog to try and play. It's a shame because the atmosphere and aesthetics are pretty neat

>>7309770
>Is there any good way to play it?
Yes. On 3DO.

>>7311023
pretty sure thats one of UT99 maps

>>7310902
So you're a pussy then, got it.

>>7310996
I put it in a paper bag, leave it at your doorstep, and light it.

>struggle through Sunlust because it's hard as shit
>even did the secret levels which were also hard as balls
>did a double take because Map 29 was literally called Go Fuck Yourself

>>7311114
>So you're a pussy
And the gaping wound between your legs is not. 1/3

>>7311087
It is. I recognize it, but don't remember the name. Curse? Not sure.

Such a shame that the "Wads In Progress" website is dead. :(
I used to go there all the time to look at and download stuff in the mid 2000s. Just tried to go there only to find out on the Doom Wiki that it's dead. I always loved that site. RIP and F.

is pathways into darkness worth playing?

Is Marathon 1 the first example of rocket jumping in an FPS?

>>7311193
it's a bit of a pain to actually play but you could always check out the uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh picture Let's Play on the lparchive that's been there for like a decade instead, unless archaic yet charismatic mac games make you hard

>>7311224
ROTT did it first but Marathon was a smoother integration than it, and we all know about Quake

>>7311224
Assuming that you mean vertical rocket jumping it's a toss up between Marathon and RoTT shareware.

>>7311087
>>7311173
Not to be condescending but the mapper in the archive calls it a remake of DM-Agony from UT '99.
https://youtu.be/-b_Dz4L-RzY
I'm not sure if it got finished though, but if it did it probably got released for QC:DE.

>>7311239
Agony. ofc.

>>7310992
I don't get why 4chan doesnt outright ban all mobile devices from posting

>>7311251
Harder to block ads on mobile, thus incentivizing the staff to let them in.

>>7311251
Yes. Yes, it is mobile devices that are used to evade bans. We need to ban those outright, yes. This will solve shitposter problem for good.

>>7311258
Just because you can't post doesn't mean you can't lurk and still see ads. They could even go a step further and require a 1 dollar account for mobile devices to post. Then you immediately ban them when they start shitposting and the hardcore addicts buy a new accounts to continue. Considering how people will spend thousands on mobile games without a second thought you could make a crapload of cash this way.

Marathon bros we got too cocky...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgChgY69ye8

>>7311272
Unironic 4chan Gold huh

Which Quake 2 sourceport? I'm only looking to play multiplayer.

>>7311272
Should we tell him?

Interloper bad

>>7309523
works better with russian overkill, with the vanilla weapons it's a pain in the ass and pretty boring

>>7309523
Slaughter is the most patrician form of Doom gameplay. Requires complete mastery of game mechanics like movement, target prioritization, and enemy behavior. Take the slaughter pill.

Which is best HL WON version to play?
1.0.0.5? 1.1.1.0?

>>7309621
other than what you mentioned I can only think of Colorful Hell

>>7309621
Heaps
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=50504
Also the Project Brutality standalone monsters pack
https://projectbrutality.com/archive/index.php/s/rWtWBYdHX8fmWLz?path=%2FCommunity%20Addons%2FVarious

>decide to randomly try out Eradicator
>surprisingly loads of fun so far
Only thing that's weird thing so far is that there's a bit of input delay when you're changing directions on the ground, but it's not there when you're jumping so it feels like a design decision.
Also can't get the music to work.

>>7311451
dang, i've yet to try that pb&j standalone pack. i really like the way the (Infernus?) demons and Infernal cacos look. the z sec is cool too

*resurrects a baron*

>>7311489
It's a good time. Works great with Hellrider.

>>7311528
ooo interesting pull. do you know if they ever addressed the infernus demons "earthquake" attack thing (with the spikes)? last time i tried it i remember getting ohko'd often and iirc i clocked it at like 3000 damage

>>7309693
>Even though Doom footage before that didn't had any of that shit.
He knew what he was doing. lol

anybody have the fanart of doomguy passing through a supercharge?
i saw it posted here a few years back but I must've forgot to save it

>>7311561
I think that's intentional Infernuses are pretty rare on tier 4.

>>7310976
Based.

>>7309523
It csn be very fun or very shit. Wads like eviternity, ancient aliens and sunlust handle the slaughter parts well. They never feel grindy but challenging and thus fun. Then there's slaughter which isn't fun or challenging, but just grind.

>>7309542
Good collection. I wanted to do something like this but I'm just too damn lazy. This may help you if you need it: https://github.com/Doom-Utils/iwad-patches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwV3uwM19EY

He might just be talking himself up but after watching this I'm convinced Sandy was the single most important person at id. Damaging floors, raising and lowering platforms, switches to open doors, saving the shotgun. Pre-Sandy Doom sounds so bland.

>>7309770
GOG version. Other than that: fuck you

>>7309829
Honestly fuck the ugly ass prerendered sprites in the PC port. I had a nice chat with Rebecca Heineman about this in december. They didn't get the full rights to the sprites from the 3DO version while doing the PC port.

>>7311871
>>7311871
Interesting, did you learn anything else about the production of the PC version vs the 3DO one cus it seems like apart from the FMVs they kinda just remade the game

>>7311875
Only that a straight port of the 3DO version was considered too simplistic for the time, so they aimed for something more complex. Regarding the digitized assets; there was some 3rd party involvement in producing these(but confusing enough not all, as seen with the cutscenes and ghost footage) and for whatever reason the contract did not cover another version of the game. Yeah, making games is a legal minefield it seems.

>>541159221
>>541159706
Ok this shit is getting real
>yes this relevant
>yes this is vidya
>and technically due to the name change this involves retro
ALF I know you're lurking get in here it's a fucking warzone

>>7311895
>replying to old deleted posts
bruh

>>7311913
They're not. I'm a newfag. It's the Fallout Frontier threads. Turns out the modders stole Doom 3 assets and are trying to pass it off (might have committed a crime)

I'm summoning ALF because it's a massive shit show being infiltrated by lefties and trxns. People are loosely comparing it to the Doom modder community as well. As I said its a warzone. If you're bored come check it out

>>7311926
I miss the times when it all just was about playing video games.

>>7311926
>I'm a newfag

>>7311789
>eviternity, ancient aliens
This is really stretching the definition, IMO. Granted, AA maps 28 and 29 definitely fits the bill (some may argue for 15, too), but the rest is not really slaughter at all, and is more just standard pwad gameplay with a couple arena encounters here and there. If that is all it takes to count as slaughter, then you might as well call Doom 2 map16 Suburbs slaughter.

>>7310538
I hate Woodrow Wilson a lot.

>>7311852
He's a guy with a serious history of designing important games, he's got some real talent and it shows in his contributions.
Whether or not all the things he says about it is 100% true, I'm not certain of (and I say that as a fanboy of his), but Doom would not have been nearly as good without his creative input.

>>7310886
I've never played them. I hear they're not bad, but the later entries don't look good at all (I didn't enjoy the parts I played of Modern Warfare, ) and it put me off of wanting to try them out at all.

>>7309829

That pre-rendered weapons and animations are actually pretty nice. I would go on and say they're a healthy step up from the Doom base design.

It grabbed my attention because nowadays "retro-FPSs" tend to do some shitty things in this department.

>>7309829
I'd love a PC port which has the digitized weapons from the 3DO version, because I like that a lot better than the crude pre-rendered 3D.

>>7310985
There should be like a limit to how many times you can post from a phone on your IP, like maybe three posts a day, that would force people to either have to think about the posts they make, or they'd just blow their load shitposting really fast and it would be over with quickly.

>>7311002
>comes on every time they wake up at 6
>always the same shitposting
It wouldn't make any sense for that to be spontaneous shitposting, that's an intentional effort by one or more people. So yes, there are people looking only to stir shit.

>>7312045
I'm pretty sure it's the same faggot shitposting who constantly posts that same image as a means of deflection.

>>7311239
it's me >>7310705, some anon asked for a copy, my disk crashed and burned and lost it

>>7311263
It won't, because a lot of people shitpost from a computer, but banning/restricting phoneposting would do a lot to curb casual shitposting, which there's a lot of.

>>7311272
Might be good idea.

>>7311301
The average phoneposters have demonstrably abused their privileges to deserve it.

>I'm glad you enjoyed this map because I setup a mean trap near the end to royally fuck your no-savescumming butthole

Why do people do this?

>>7312101
on a side note, I crawled (by myself) 2 (two) years of threads for these screenshots of another map that I also lost

>>7312123

>>7311342
I like Interloper.

>>7312123
Post more, I love >>7312128

>>7312128
>>7312150

>>7312161

>>7312163
>>7312165

>>7312168
>ParBoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCrSwYoaMGg

>>7312168

>>7312168
Don't you just hate it when people leave the pain dimension open in the bathroom?

>>7312179
I think these are the most up to date layouts

>>7312186

>>7312189

>>7312191
I have more but reasons

>>7312121
Surprise features and experience lengthening.

I think Term did a 180 of this on one of his DUMP maps where it spawns archviles at the end to shit you up into backing into the end portal.

>>7309615
Run it with Fractal Doom.

>>7311852
Sandy consistently got the short end of the stick, Doom 1 was dropping so much mapping on him in no time at all and Doom 2 was mostly him doing his and Romero's work with American Mcgee doing some shit sometimes.

Tom Hall similarly had a pretty big impact on what Doom ended up like, having to fight John Carmack to get stuff like flying enemies and teleporters in the game.

So I'm playing Blood for the first time using BloodGDX and the mouse movement feels floaty and bad almost like vsync is on anyone know a solution?

>>7310976
based

>>7312249
Adjust the X and Y mouse values to your liking. These are mine (turning speed, up and down speed).

>>7308454

Here's R1M3 so far.

What do you think?

>>7311149
nice

>>7310480
What is this?

*ahem* Where the FUCK is the Blood project?

>>7312183
>Mooooooooommm the mirror is screaming again!!

>>7312221
Tom Hall and Sandy Petersen really were fundamental to what Doom became.

>>7312198
These were exquisite, thank you.

>>7312287
>>7312183
>>7312168
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hDJfkRzr_g
First thing to come to mind

>>7311852
I have reason to believe him because he designed tabletop RPGs prior to joining id.

>>7312313
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWz4L_kjpcU

>>7312303
It'd have probably been much closer to a prettier multi-level floor Wolf3D with demons without those two.
>>7312319
Sandy's not Tim Willits so he's probably telling the truth.

>>7312313
nice, I hate it

>>7312285
2048 units of vr map29

>>7312198
>>7312308
another one
rebuilding this will be a pain in the ass
I really need a girlfriend

>>7312313
>this video is age restricted and only available on jewtube
really, they actually bothered to break embedded age restricted video embeds? not even signing into the botnet will work evidently
why must this useless company have a monopoly

>>7312425
because people are lazy and will take being screwed over every day of the week for a small amount of convenience.

>>7312348
>It'd have probably been much closer to a prettier multi-level floor Wolf3D with demons without those two.
Well, not necessarily, mind that the abstract levels were very much on Romero's initiative, and the reason BSP trees were implemented was because Romero busted the limits of the engine at the time when just experimenting (pic related). This had been in response to the pseudo-realism that Tom had aimed at, but I think Romero would likely have gone a very similar path anyway.

Romero, Tom, Sandy, Carmack, Adrian, Bobby, you could really not have replaced any of these guys with someone else and gotten even close to the same game we got. Even if Tom left during development and a lot of his ideas were binned, many of his significant ideas and contributions remained in one way or another (teleporters, flying monsters, probably the shotgun and super shotgun, likely the chainsaw as well, on top of some of his levels).
Romero had a lot of ideas overall for design and tone, as well as direction for overall level design, so he was irreplaceable as well, Carmack was the only way they'd get an engine like this in 1993, Adrian was the primary aesthetic drive and behind a lot of the monster design, not to mention the textures and sprites, Sandy for various ideas and inputs in design and gameplay on top of his levels, and Bobby, quite a lot like Adrian, was instrumental to the game's tone, as well as providing a few ideas here and there.

American? He contributed good levels, and probably some things for aesthetics and design, but he's more instrumental to Quake, Willits contributes ok levels but he's completely interchangeable with any average level designer. Shawn doesn't contribute a huge amount it seems on the surface, though likely he did influence tone, and according to people like Kvernmo, it's likely he was involved in a couple of more levels than he actually got credited for by Romero, ultimately however he's not one of the driving creative forces of Doom.

>>7312425
Anon you're posting on a botnet right now.

I'm playing quake for the first time ever and I think something is wrong. I have barely any air control, I can only stop movement, I can't actually change directions while maintaining speed. I'm using quakespasm

>>7312437
It's a shame the id of the time fell to pieces as rapidly as it did, they had a fragile balance going on where it didn't take much to fracture and break what was working.

>>7311318
Check pastebin

>>7311852
i wouldn't be surprised if most of Q2's concepts came from him, the strogg is literally Nyarlathotep's crib

>>7312447
please help
also, what exactly breaks if I go over 72fps?

>>7312447
>>7312487
Sounds like the physics of jumping are breaking because you're letting the game go over 72fps in regular Quakespasm. Quakespasm-Spiked or vkQuake solve this issue.

>oh hey that wall in the start of toxin refinery has a misaligned texture
>get excited and run up
>it does indeed lower
>die because I jumped into a pool of toxins with no way out
oh

>>7312506
this was an issue from when I first started the game, nothing changed after testing out different framerates

>>7312519
I dunno then. I haven't used regular Quakespasm in quite some time. I go back and forth between QSS and vkQ.

>>7312524
I will try both of those anyways, thanks

>>7312464
I don't see Q2 mentioned in any of the pastebins.

>>7312537
see
>>7309493
>Quake Trilogy (2020-11): https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU

>>7309573
>tourism.pk3
What's that?

>>7312567
Turns every Doom .wad into a Walking Sim.

>>7312602
That's the gayest thing I've ever heard in my entire life.

>>7312602
It's ok dude, we've got the perfect mod for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_MWARNmWZg

>>7312602
Why would you use that when the NOMONSTERS parameter exists in every sourceport?

>>7312286
I'm all done with my maps, still waiting on the other contributors. The full version will be released at the end of January, hopefully with their completed maps in it.

>>7312673
Only reason I can think of is boss death triggers and stuff like that, but even if you suck as bad as that dude, you can still use cheats or go on an easier mode instead of just doing that.

>>7312602
Is that for game journalists?

>>7312681
HOLY BASED

>>7312515
I STILL don't know what triggers the bridge to raise.

>>7312690
>>7312673
>>7312618
Relax, I just want to appreciate the architecture and chill out.
Yeah, the mod adds some stuff that you would go missing if you had nomonsters enabled. It's a nice experience.

>>7312723
be* not go

>>7309523
Shit. Go 2 it ruined Doom.

>>7312746
Sifted.

>>7312723
This is exactly why we need school bullying.

>>7309523
Slaughtermaps in stuff like Resurgence and Sunlust are really fun, as they aren't overly long. Where as I can't bring myself to play Sunder's later maps, because of how huge they are.
>>>7309542
I actually own the 1.666 version of Doom 2 on CD.

>>7312709
A switch in a nested secret next to where you get the rocket launcher (the one after you run into the nukage tunnel).

>>7312761
This is how I sleep knowing that I'm not a tryhard

>>7312746
WHISKED
H
I
S
K
E
D

>>7312602
>>7312723
Would you care to link it please, I'm curious now

>>7312850
https://jp.itch.io/doom-tourism

>>7312639
I like cute things
I wish the world was nice like this
Shotgun genociding demons makes you forget how bad things really are at least
Should've been a bunny though 1/10 wad

>>7312257
This helped a ton thanks brother. Do you by any chance know if I can cap the framerate somewhere? The usual forums and their posts seem to just say use vsync or deal with it but that doesn't seem right. My card gets intense coil whine with 2000fps

>>7312886
Reminds me of this Doom II review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7xMiY44Xog
>Shooting, crazy jumping, constant explosions are becoming a part of our everyday life - novelty is wearing off. So we think in the nearest future we should expect a new genre emerging - so-called "social" games. Imagine - you come home, close the armored door, put machine gun back in the rack, take off your helmet and run back to your beloved PC. And here you will find a games like, for example, a "Streetcar" - calm winter afternoon, you and your girlfriend are riding a tram, trying your best to evade mellow ticket inspectors. Or maybe a game called "Household" - your wife is asleep in front of the TV, your mission is to feed your children and put them to sleep. Or a "Library" game, where you are looking for your favorite book on the shelves. And so you become immersed in a completely unrealistic, yet beatiful world

>>7313071
Fucking Nostradamus.

>>7312543
cheers

>>7312264
For your viewing and analyzing convenience, i zipped up the project folder for the TC:

https://amel.pw/trevie/Roams%20TC%20Project%20Folder.zip

It mostly consists of sprite edits and textures in varying levels of completion, alongside some texture rips i put together myself and, of course, the actual TC.

Regardless, i hope that the contents might be useful for anybody who might want to use them in their own modding endeavors.

Cheers.

"It's not like Doom" is not an argument retards

>>7312761
Two types of people: Those who like videogames, and those that like consuming videogames.

>>7312794
You do you, anon.

What's his first?

>>7313378
Ethnic Cleansing

>>7313394

>>7313378
gmota

>>7313378
HL2

>>7313378

>>7311231
ROTT Shareware and Marathon 1 literally both came out the same day. Dec 21st 1994.

>>7313378
Gee I wonder
Back to TVTranny you fucking tourist

>>7313406
Nah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVO7eGvFEa8

>>7313413
Nothing you can do.

>>7313419
Planet Earth is blue

>>7313439
Plutonia 2

If I have two PNAMES in my wad, will it fuck up?

>>7313467
Probably. Most likely only one would be read.

>>7313409
Dec 21st started 6 hours earlier for ROTT

I downloaded Valiant, Eviternity, Ancient Aliens and Back to Saturn X
don't know where to begin with those

>>7313501
Eviternity or BTSX to start, maybe. Flip a coin on that.

>>7313501
BTSX.

Is there a simple way to automatically transfer individual textures between wads and grab patches and the like along the way?
I want to make a custom texture pack with only select few non-vanilla textures and moving patches along might get tedious.

>>7313501
I'd start with BTSX, it's easiest mapset among downloaded, it may feel a liitle boring after any of three other mapsets.

>>7313501
Don't download a bunch of maps at once or you get analysis paralysis

Ok I'll try BTSX first
>>7313521
I'm just hoarding to play in my bunker during WWIII

Do you still like Opp Force even though Randy worked on it?

>>7313378
What a normie

>>7313602
not more than liking Doom

>>7313591
Its okay.

What I find absolutely stunning and never see people talk about is HL Echoes.

Engine pushed to its max and I wish it was 5 times longer.

>>7313606
>HL Echoes.
But i don't want to use steam.

>>7313616
You dont need to use steam.

I am not using it.

>>7313591
Yes. It's not like he worked on it alone, and even though I hate him, I still have to give credit where it's due.

>>7313620
I think people give him too much bullshit. I am serious. He's a nice target. He can take it anyway.

>>7313591
Randy worked on Duke 3D and Shadow Warrior too.

>>7313639
>Randy worked on Duke 3D and Shadow Warrior during their development
I'm mostly sure of the part about Shadow Warrior, but the pre-world tour versions of Duke 3D?

>you need GZDoom to play the PSX TC
fuck off

>>7313662
Yes, he designed a few levels, including E4L1 (Impossible Mission).

>>7313665
What other port do you think can do things like sound reverb, colored sector lighting, the limited scripting, and altered monsters?
It's a GzDoom based port, Eternity, or possibly Edge, you're not doing it in something like PrBoom+ without building a fork of the engine.

If you're having performance problems, try it with LzDoom.

>>7313662
he's in that secret level with the devs' faces I think

>>7313591
I wonder how oppfor and blue shift came out so well when everything else gearbox touches dies
their botched halo port still haunts the game to this day since 343 are even lazier than he is and didn't want to add computer netcode to the xbox original and just handed off the pc port to their outsourced slavs and that was like a year after blue shift

>>7313719
I'm assuming they got help from Valve?

>>7313719
They also did HL Decay and were working on a console port that went tits up, and that was where their co-operation died.

Probably a sign of their future behavior right there.

>vkquake2 has a really nice software renderer that feels great to play with
>vkquake doesn't
suffering
is there any good way of playing software quake at 240?

>>7313697
just said fuck off sped, l2read

>>7313797
>what is r_scale

>>7313476
>>7313409
huh

>>7313797
i dont know about 240 res, but mark v has a sw renderer

>>7310310
Are you referring to that Pathways into Darkness callback? That was a fan addition that was removed in later versions of Aleph One

>>7313806
there are other features of software mode that i want than just low res though
>>7313818
thanks, this is exactly what i was after

Are there any wads to change player skin/weapons/sounds to D64 without affecting monsters?

I made a window, but you can see the sky edge, so I made it tall, but now it's ugly. wat do

>>7313860
https://www.wad-archive.com/wad/a5b50467f7a54cd24bc71497341461814a91b646

>>7313895

>>7313895
Already tried, don't want monsters changed

>>7313860
>>7313895
>>7313914
Open it in slade, remove the monster replacers, it takes all of a minute.

damn psx doom doesn't have mouse support.
better get used to keyboard controls.

>>7314002
If you're emulating it, there may be a romhack to add the mouse support which the Final Doom release has.

Playthrough video of map30 of 2048 units of /vr/ is up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIOyeD_isKk
I'll post the extra maps videos too, but I can already provide my thoughts on the wad. It was an absolute blast to play, the levels are small enough to not be a chore. My top level rankings:
1. Map03 - Roundabout Cliffside
2. Map21 - Tiny Fragment
3. Map29 - Black Crest
4. Map27 - Welcome to the Peanut Gallery.

>>7309493
Daily reminder the true king of retro FPS is Doom II, followed by Quake. Bloodparrots BTFO.

>>7313895
put the tall wall on the outside area

>>7309529
You may have to wallhump and look up at first, but with practice you get better at recognizing the cues.

>>7309635
Why? They were fucking stupid. Definition of beating a dead horse.

>>7313798
> shutup and let me cry about things i dont understand

>>7309515
New Quake map jam
https://www.moddb.com/mods/blue-monday-jam/downloads/blue-monday-jam

This one uses Quoth for once (rather than AD)

>>7314118
Yeah, I think I'll be skipping this one.

>>7314016
>1. Map03 - Roundabout Cliffside
Until it got fixed this was inarguably the worst map. this has to be bait

>>7314136
You are all getting a bit fucking unhinged Americans.

>>7314147
It WAS shit at first, but after it was fixed up, it became very good. It probably improved the most of any level in the set.

>>7314159
Because a different author remade it.

>>7314136
...what the fuck is that even supposed to mean? MLK Day was 2 days ago.

Was playing around with Python to generate extremely basic UDMF maps. This is the first mile stone: a function that draws a rectangle of arbitrary size. It's like rendering your first triangle in OpenGL. It's unremarkable, but it makes you feel good.

>>7314164
read the description lol

>>7309493
Considering shotgun man is now the president, what's the most extreme shotgun mod I can get?

>>7314195
>implying Biden won't take away your shotguns
TMSS(Too Many Super Shotguns). Half the mod isn't even shotguns but it's a good joke weapon mod.

I always loved shotgun soldier a little bit more than the others.

>>7314136
>i wish everyone was as depressed as me, let's bring up politics
politics obsessed weirdos are just furries but with a suffering fetish instead
get a personality

>>7314214
Misanthropy is the right word anon. You truly have to hate you neighbour for tyranny to flourish.

>>7314208
for me it's the one with the cigar

>>7314160
Was that it? I thought it was the same guy.

My Boom map is crashing prboom when I try and play it, but it works in Gzdoom. But it is in Boom format. How can I scan the wad and see what is actually wrong with it? The checker in Gzdoom Builder does not show the errors that could be causing this. I tried different node builders and no luck.

>>7314240
Does PrBoom give you a crash message?

>>7314246
No.

>>7314246
The map used to work, I added more to it and now it crashes. Maybe it is too big?

>>7314202
The nickname comes from him suggesting all that someone needs for home defense is a shotgun (mind, shotguns aren't actually bad, buckshot tends to kill the fuck out of people, even if they're high as fuck), which he then suggests you'd just fire up into the air and that would scare away anyone looking to hurt you.

I really want to stress, do NOT do this in an emergency (any kind of warning shot), it's unhelpful at best, and typically liable to get you into legal trouble. In the US anyway.

>>7314208
He looks badass with the ski-mask and goggles.

>>7314164
A day dedicated to celebrating a communist adulterer is pretty depressing.

>>7314250
Do you mind sharing the wad? I have seen other wads do this, but I forget what causes it.

>>7312179
Nausea inducing

>>7314289
Here:

https://filebin.net/1qv7ohqpqg3kllu9

I have rebuilt the nodes with zennode and it still crashed.

>FPS thread is off the first page for longer than 5 whole minutes
Hehehehe...
*mydli-mydli*

>>7314276
how is mlk a commie again?

>>7314214
>is such a non-confrontational bitch that he thinks the oldest aspect of humanity is weird
Sounds like you're the one who needs the personality

Anyone else get it?

>>7314360
Fukken phone. What a shit.

>>7314360
it him the quaker

What is your favorite enemy replacement wad and why?

>>7314360
Yeah. Now I need a record player.

>>7314384
>colorfull hell
>champions
>legendoom lite
>corruption cards

>>7314394
you dont seriously play all at the same time right? colorful hell already gives me a headache unless i am using a really broken weapon set

>>7314360
>Quake I
bleh
Give me Quake II or classic Doom

>>7314386
This heydey one I'm using isn't half bad and only cost around a 100 dollars.

>>7314308
The maps load for me in PrBoom+ and DSDA-Doom, but the textures do not. Try adding your textures to TEXTUREx and make sure none of the texture names are the same as the ones already found in Doom II.

>>7314403
You don't have to comment on things you don't care about.

>>7314410
You need Scythe2.wad.

>>7314394
Moonman Doom

>>7314413
Then that's most likely the issue. If you're using Scythe 2, then there's two MAP28s and PrBoom doesn't know which to choose. Just import the textures you need from Scythe 2 into your map like a normal person.

>>7314429
>there's two MAP28s and PrBoom doesn't know which to choose
Not him, but usually it's load order that determines which map gets used.

>>7311880
Neat info, thank you!

>>7312025
I'd love to see all the assets from both versions of the game turned into a Doom wad or something. There's a lot of potential and great atmosphere and aesthetics there that they just never quite nailed with either version of the game

>>7314449
Loading the wad with Scythe 2 causes it to crash, while loading it alone just ignores the textures. Odd.

>>7314118
I was going to make some kind of fake bait screenshot about a blm map to derail but then there actually was one

Some time ago I have proposed the following way of playing Duke Nukem 3D pistolstarted
0) Tiberius Station
1) Red Light District -> Launch Facility [beta + final] -> Freeway -> Going Postal
2) Toxic Dump -> Fusion Station -> Lunar Reactor -> Spaceport -> Derelict

To this I have connected Plug'n'Pray campaign from ps1 version of the game, then custom map by William Gee named WGCity.
(cont)

>>7312924
>Do you by any chance know if I can cap the framerate somewhere?
I do not, but I'll quote the question as well since I intend to upgrade soon. Does anyone know how to manually cap framerates in BuildGDX?

Alright lads I've been playing Shadow Warrior
is there a relatively idiot-proof way of creating a custom difficulty? I assume with it being a Build game it's doable.
I want the enemy numbers and damage of hard modes with the low HP of the easier difficulties.

>>7314486
>Red Light District [beta]
>Toxic Dump [beta]

Now, I have discovered more sort of campaigns throughout some of the later released levels, so I'll start with Robert Travis' levels for Build games. It connects, in my opinion, to 2).

Beta One / Moonbase Beta -> Anselm -> Hoth -> Mountain Pass (from Cryptic Passage) -> Monastery (from Wanton Destruction)

Then, these levels from Maarten van Oostrum:
The Big City -> Maads -> The Toxicity -> Alien Planet X64-II -> Another Big Base Attacked.

Again, first batch of these levels sort of spins off of the Toxic Dump [beta] sequence, the second batch - from the end of the first batch.
(cont)

>>7314486
>>7314505
I don't understand your posts.

>>7314505
Now to the actual point.

MRCK's sort of mini campaign is comprised of these levels spinning off the end of Toxic Dump [beta] sequence of levels.

Anarchy City 1 -> Anarchy City 2 -> Anarchy City 3 -> Happy Hangover -> Anorak City -> Siebenopolis.

I still personally do largely prefer the Plug'n'Pray then WGCity branch, but that is simply my personal taste.

>>7314478
>Gay Kisses for Christmas 2
I gave the first one a pass because at least it was novel, now he's just straight up pumping out trash

>>7313697
>colored sector lighting
boom can do it
>limited scripting
conveyor belts can do it
>altered monsters
dehacked can do it

>>7314412
never stopped anyone else here.

>>7314472
Found the problem. The map has a monster spawner in it (which scythe 2 does something that breaks it). Removing it made it work for me

>>7314250
see >>7314576

>>7314498
Its in the renderer settings.
>>7314478
You have to wonder about the mindset behind things like this. Like does this guy actually think his work is good? Or is it supposed to be "ironically bad"? Maybe he thinks making lazy pre-school tier art is somehow charming?

>>7314576
Thank you.

>>7314582
He's an art teacher at some college in Washington state, so I'm thinking it's some sort of urbanite trend

>>7314582
>Its in the renderer settings.
Cheers

Also, considering Quake, Abandon -> VeniVidiFutzi by Madfox, as a whole, comprise a sort of an answer to Quake 1 taken as a whole, spinning off from it.
That answer has a little bit of Eradicator vibe to it, taking place in environments that are a little bit Marathon in that everything about them is a little bit of irk. You, meanwhile, do simply move on.

>>7314608
Arcane Dimension is an attempt to undo Abandon.

>>7314608
AD is the "answer" to Quake 1. Abandon is a fucking experiment of varying quality, and Veni is a single map you turd. And it's an "answer" insofar as Quake 1 is still entirely relevant with level design quirks and ideas not found in AD.

I kinda dislike that Eviternity went the extra mile to have most levels end with the beginning of the next level for a believable transition, but then with episode transitions, they just took the easy way out and slapped a portal at the end of every episode. Just makes each episode feel too disconnected from eachother.
And like, a portal to end an episode isn't even inherently a bad thing, either. BTSX E2 ends with a portal. But the difference is that BTSX builds up to the portal, making it feel significant and plot relevant. Where as the portal endings in Eviternity just feel generic and lazy.
I dunno, just a weird thing that bothers me.

I like the first few maps in a Skillsaw wad before he goes completely mental with the monster count & difficulty

>>7314617
AD is an attempt to divert attention from Abandon by playing an alternate supplant to Quake, now with bells and whistles. Veni is an alternate ending to Abandon since Witchcraft has ended up not tying it up entirely - it is a brilliant ending this time around as well.
Moreover, nowhere ever is Abandon simply stylized to fit Quake's mold, the author largely going on about doing his own business. It does not ever even hint upon restricting itself to be true to Quake, it would simply make its point moot. It isn't even stylized to fit dosQuake usermaps, actually requiring limit-expanding sourceports such as bjp WinQuake or Mark V WinQuake. It is simply doing stuff.

Also, on a completely unrelated note, not as an answer, a reminder that such a thing as ad_e1m3 / Giftmacher's The Sepulcher (not to be mixed with sock's ad_sepulcher / The Forgotten Sepulcher) does exist.

bros I love these old shooters

>>7314709
Literally nothing you said contests anything I said, unless that was your point and you're just discussing.

>>7314563
I might actually try that with boom202 just to see how far it goes

>>7314592
Oh he's an art teacher? That explains a lot lol.
Imagine making a shitty ass clone of Bubsy Visits the James Turrell Retrospective not once but TWICE.

>>7314701
Skillsaw wads are not what I'd call hard wads. They certainly provide a stronger challenge than the iwads, and can get a bit chaotic at times. But they're still at an accessible level of difficulty for the pwad audience.

>>7313418
God, fuck that game. Shit gave me me nightmares as a kid.

>>7314771
>Imagine making a shitty ass clone of Bubsy Visits the James Turrell Retrospective not once but TWICE.
I'm glad we live in a timeline where this sentence exists

>>7314160
>>7314239
Same guy, but I spent a shit load of time (like 12 hours combined at least) fixing my mistakes and detailing the map. Learnt a lot too (fuck sector lighting).
I wouldn't call it the best map of the wad though, not by a long shot.

A while back in this thread someone has posted an image of a space acton game in the style of Freelancer that had a giant bone fish/dragon monster.
It was developed by some doom modder or something IDK why was it relevant to discussion, but it was defnitely posted in these threads.
The idea of a space shooter with space monsters fascinates me, so I'd like to find trace of that game, but 4chan archives aren't helpful in that regard.
Can any of you remember it?