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What is /vr/ opinion on this game? i thought it was pretty cool but it feels kinda small, both in lenght and the levels and the overworld etc etc, i wish there was more stuff to do with the spaceship, you kinda only go to the volcano and the moon with it

Also more stuff to photograph would have been nice.

>> No.7297312

>>7297230

I always heard about how great it was but then I tried it and got tired of it partway through. It seemed okay I guess. I don't remember the details. I'm sure it's fine?

>> No.7298530 [DELETED] 

One of the first games that pushed a character who the SJWs if today would love, but back then you consumers looked at her in the box and said that's not worth playing, and you couldn't guilt them over it. Every magazine raved about it at the time if release, no one wanted it. Because the look if the character is shit, and in a sane society you don't put that front and centre if marketing. But I guess it revolutiimised the way they would sell games in future.

>> No.7298542

>>7297312
This is my exact experience lol

>> No.7298614

>>7297230
It felt unfinished, yeah. Also the title's odd for what is a pretty clear cut good and evil story.

>> No.7298620

>>7298530
Learn to type, you illiterate retard.

>> No.7298623

>>7297230
overrated and doesn't hold a candle to any of the great games of that gen despite always being shilled besides them

>>7298530
Shit take by a zoomer , no one gives a shit about that, we had lara croft, heather mason, jill valentine and samus already, this game simply wasn't very good

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>>7298620
>>7298623
>seething wokies are seething

>> No.7299267
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>>7299237
>get proven wrong
>act smug
the seeting poltard is seething

>> No.7299268

>>7297312
I got tired of it right after screwing around in that bar. I don't know what everybody else found compelling about it.

>> No.7299282

>>7297230
It's good. I appreciate the fact that it's a condensed experience and doesn't overstay its welcome.

>> No.7299615

>>7299267
>see tards seething
>post in thread for first time
>zoomie tards can't into anonymous
>embarrass themselves with their ignorance
zoom. not even once.

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>>7299615
>embarrass themselves with their ignorance
>doesn't even know samus, heather mason, lara croft existed before this game which failed 100% because it sucked
>shoehorns some shitty classical ameripoltard take on it anyway
zoooooom

Look Zoomie, pic related is another sjw game with female protagonist that failed because 2020 politics and jews or some shit

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>>7299620
The dudes obviously drunk, why are you even getting so agro, anon?

>> No.7299696

I love it. Simple and cool. And pretty comfy too.

>> No.7300205

>>7299620
>still doesn't know how anonymous boards work
>continues to embarrass itself with it's ignorance
>continues to embarrass itself with it's woke pol garbage
zoooooom

Look Zoomie, this is an anonymous board. If you can't figure out how that works you should really go back.

>>7299660
You're getting so agro because it's your nature. All you trannies can do is seethe.

>> No.7300293

>>7297230
>You will explore the moon!!
>spend most of the game in sewers

>> No.7300297

>>7298530
Degenerate.

>> No.7300346

>>7297312
>>7298542
Literally me.
I remember people saying it was like If Ocarina of Time had an actually good story, then I got around to playing years later, and it was like Ocarina of Time with worse combat, and terrible stealth mechanics

>> No.7300374

>>7297230
Cool story and setting, beautiful animations and graphics, but the gameplay is just casual AAA trash (of its day), nothing memorable whatsoever, just some mindless button mashy combat, go from A to B, very shitty stealth sections that go on forever. The hovercraft riding was cool though.

t. beat it back then

>> No.7300431

>>7298530
What the fuck are you talking about? She comes from a time when we still had feminine babes as leads, she's hot!

>> No.7300436

>>7297230
It was a nice try, not GOAT but fairly good and different from other games.
You're not just a killing machine trying to save the world by gunning everything in your way.
The music was also really fun.

>> No.7300735

>>7298530
based

>> No.7300745

I mean to pick up the 360 version of this at some point as I heard the 6th gen versions do that same forced fake widescreen shit that RE4 does. I hate that shit. Give me real 4:3 or real 16:9, not this "cinematic" half-measure that gives me letterboxing on a 4:3 display, and letterboxing AND pillarboxing on a 16:9 display.

>> No.7300770

PROPAGANDA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxKBCLPP20s

>> No.7300836 [DELETED] 

>>7299237
Fuck niggers and jews, however your sentence structure is atrocious and you need to put more effort into your posts.

>> No.7300840
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>>7300836
You should go teach the young nazis in south Carolina, before they make all racists look bad.

>> No.7300845

>>7300840
What?

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>>7300845
You heard me, bitch

>> No.7300875

>>7300865
Nobody knows what the fuck you are talking about. Are you drunk?

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>>7300836

>> No.7302627

>>7297230
One of the best games ever made. Shame that its so short

>> No.7304396

>>7297230
Genuinely great. However, it's literally ULTRA-PROGRESSIVE, just like >>7297312
said.

>Mulatto protagonist
>Mixed-species society with Black woman mayor
>Alpha-sections are a low-key stand in for Nazis
>Low-key implies whites are either nazis or idiots

I think people in 2003 figured out just how pozzed it was and simply refused to buy it. Pity about the gameplay and plot, they're not bad.

>> No.7304398

* just like >>7298530 said

>> No.7304450

>>7297230
I liked it, but honestly it is somewhat forgettable. The actual gameplay was functional but nothing special. Especially the story at the end feels rushed and unfinished.

>> No.7304502

>>7297230
It was nice aesthetically bur the sneaking & combat sections near the end were meh and it ended with little resolution.
Best parts were really when the planet was still bright & peaceful-ish. Shoulda built more on that.
>>7298530
Nah SJWs loathe it because of it’s french-comic cultural roots.
That’s a very noticeable thing, they claim to hate America but the one thing that really pisses them off is non-american-liberal culture.

>> No.7304509

>>7304396
people didn't care about shit like this back in 2003, you idiot. it was a better, more innocent time.

>> No.7304538

>>7304509
>i was an ignorant baby in 2003 so everyone else was as well
zoom. not even once.

>> No.7304559

>>7304538
Nahrt but your type of entryist didn’t even start among the gamejournos until ’04 and didn’t take off among them until around ’06-’09.

>> No.7304578

>>7297230
Dunno, but the PC port is fucking awful. I dropped it because of that. I might go back and try emulating it sometime. What's the best console version to emulate? Ideally with a proper widescreen patch. I heard there was some fuckery like the game being displayed in letterboxed widescreen by default so the normal widescreen hack just adds black bars on both sides or some shit.

>> No.7304589

>>7304578
6th gen console version is fake 16:9, PC version lacks gamepad support. Honestly play the HD version on 360 or PS3.

>> No.7304590

>>7298623
>no one gives a shit about that

Wrong. People still cared back then and things like this stood out even more in a sane society.

The women you mention are very attractive white girls with sex appeal, who often wear skimpy outfits and sometimes have giant tits. So why are you mentioning them as if it's the same thing? It's literally the opposite of the leftist agenda being pushed in BG&E. See >>7304396 for some examples.

>>7298530 is right. But that's just half the reason. The other half is that the game just wasn't anywhere near as good as people made out.

>> No.7304597

>>7298530
I revolutiimised ur mum

>> No.7304619

>>7304589
> Honestly play the HD version on 360 or PS3.
I don't have a 360 or PS3. I actually considered emulating the PS3 version, but I don't know where to download the rom. Has anyone tried emulating it? How does it run?

>> No.7304628

>>7304619
Apparently it's "playable" but you might have to mess with RPCS3 settings for best results, I dunno I don't emulate. As for the "rom", here:

https://1fichier.com/?qhxj5p3362yxgvm2ob3c

>> No.7304636

>>7304628
> Apparently it's "playable"
Yeah, I trust rpcs3's compatibility ratings for the most part, but sometimes obscure PSN releases like this get weird issues that they're probably not aware of due to insufficient testing. Like Code Veronica X HD has flickering polygons on my computer.

>> No.7304642

>>7304509
It was more innocent, but MUH MULATTO PROTAG was used as a selling point. Look at how unique our game is! said Ubisoft, and while it was unique, it was the wrong kind of unique. People just don't connect very well with what they can't recognize, and French multikulti is arguably repugnant even to many who do.

>>7304578
What are you smoking, man? The PC version of this game is top-tier by 2003 standards. Yes it requires a bit of tinkering, but the moment you get it to work you get probably the best version.

>60FPS
>High-resolution (+widescreen)
>Good keyboard and mouse control, complete with accurate prompts

I beat it just fine

>> No.7304643
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7304643

>>7304590
>The women you mention are very attractive white girls with sex appeal
>heather mason
lmfao, even the beyond good an evil girl is more sexualixed, she is still pretty, you are just retarded and want to shoehorn current year politics into everything like a zoomer who thinks the world started with gamergate

Code veronica, dino crisis, fear effect, all protagonist equally clothed and conventionally atractive as Jade, actually, they are all more clothed than Jade is

>> No.7304653

>>7304642
The lack of gamepad support is a serious black mark against it in my book. Sure keyboard and mouse is playable, but a pad is really ideal for a game like this. There's nothing the PC version gets you that the HD version doesn't as far as I'm aware.

Console-to-PC ports from 6th gen and prior in general tended to be really spotty, that's one rare thing that actually got better with time.

>> No.7304654

>>7304642
It has no proper gamepad support and a bunch of weird issues with framerate and bugs. Not to mention tweaking out the ass to even run on modern computers.

>> No.7304664

>>7304643
>you are just retarded and want to shoehorn current year politics into everything like a zoomer who thinks the world started with gamergate
Hit the nail on the fucking head. I was thinking it but you put it so nicely.

>> No.7304691

>>7304653
KB & M is indeed, not ideal for this kind of game, but if implemented correctly, what you lose in freedom of movement you gain in precision. Again, I beat just fine.

>>7304654
Regarding controls, see above. Regarding graphical & technical glitches, here's the how to:
>Disable a few graphics options in the launcher
>Lock to 60FPS
Boom, done, you can now enjoy BG&E. 15 minutes of testing. 30 if you're unlucky. After that you can enjoy the game from beginning to end.

>> No.7304707

>>7304691
I remember trying for over an hour before refunding it after not being able to get it up to where it should be. It's by no means as easy as you make it sound. And that's honestly an unacceptable state to be selling a game in anyway.

>> No.7304732

>>7304643
I honestly don't care about muh GG (you brought it up LOL), and hell, i don't even care much about Jade (eh, she's fine I guess) but trying to pretend her appearance or the political subtext of this game made no difference to its commercial performance is inherently disingenuous. It's like saying there's no agenda behind the endless amounts of mixed-race couples in entertainment and advertising (while IRL they're statistically insignificant). I started noticing retroactively, and, yeah, can't go back to the old innocence of assuming no ill-will.

>>7304707
Good thing you got your money back I guess. I guess you were just unlucky...maybe your specs just didn't want to play nice? I used a desktop Win7 machine with an Athlon X4 and an Radeon RX 460 (recent drivers too). Did you try to play on a laptop by chance? They're very prone to breaking games...

>> No.7304743

>>7304732
Nah, fairly new Win10 gaming rig I built 2 years ago. 9th gen i7 and RTX 2080

>> No.7304762

>>7297312
This was my experience with it.

>> No.7304771

>>7304743
Word of advice: Don't bother with very old games on new tech. You'll just end up pulling your hair out. BG&E isn't a worst case scenario (it uses DX9, so it can run natively on Win10), but generally if you want to play old games you shouldn't really be playing on new hardware. I also a have a slightly stronger PC (R5 2600X + Radeon RX 580 + Win 10), but generally I don't bother with old games on it. That what my retro PC (the aforementioned Athlon X4+RX 460) is for. A virtual machine is also an option if you don't have the room or money for it, but it's a very technical solution.
TL;DR: Want to play old games? Keep a retro PC or use a virtual machine.

>> No.7304782

>>7304771
> A virtual machine is also an option
How do I get into this? Can you run old versions of Windows on it like XP? Do you have to pay for a copy of XP or is it free for VMs nowadays?

>> No.7304816

>>7304782
Not quoted but you can run VMs of pretty much every x86 OS and a few non-x86 ones so all the Windows can be emulated including XP, 98, 95, 3.1x and DOS.
Either using straight-up Windows ISOs in Virtualbox/VMWare or stuff like Dosbox/PCem.
Since it's a VM just pirate all the stuff.

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>>7304559
lol. What a pathetic zoomie retard

>> No.7304980

It's a fucking awesome game, I loved it so much. Got monkey paw'd with the sequel though.

>> No.7304986

>>7304960
Reminder that 4chan is 18 years old and up.

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7305691

>>7304396
>However, it's literally ULTRA-PROGRESSIVE, just like >>7297312 #
said.
He didn't say that...

>... Mulatto, capitalised B in Black, low-key instead of lowkey, the w in whites isn't capitalised
You're not from 4chan... And your writing style reflects that.

>>7304590
>overtly apologetic, tying in several other posts in a very unorthodox manner
As if you were new or something...

You're a fucking rat man, where from though?
Bunkerchan, twitter, reddit?
Do you still have all your original genitalia?
Or are you false flagging with those as well you fucking human dud?
What's that beeping man?
Oh shit, it's colonel Campbell and he wants to talk to you...
Yeah, turns out you're gonna have to use the mens room after all faggot. Oh, and those custom dog tags you were promised... not gonna happen, vagina imposter!

SEX: MALE
AGE: CLOSE TO ROPE TIME
BLOOD TYPE: AVOID TRANSFUSION

Your parents mock the abomination which you have become.

>> No.7305701

>>7305691
what?

>> No.7305789

Man some of you people REALLY can't process even a mild hint of political correctness. Yes people cared and care about that stuff, but nobody WHO MATTERS cared or cares about it. Talk about the game if you matter. Talk about Important Culture War Stuff if you don't.

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>>7305691
See the correction below my first reply. An anti-PC reply (the one I initially wanted to point to) was removed and now half the thread doesn't make sense anymore. Ugh... Also I wanted to write BLACK...guess my brain just fails to work sometimes

>>7305789
I really don't care about PC...but it's kind of impossible to avoid that aspect when discussing this game. It's baby's first Zelda but sci-fi and steeped in multikulti. What I keep trying to argue is that perhaps it's political subtext (subtle or not) is what ultimately lead to its commercial failure. And I like this game, FYI (I even own it thrice: Physical copy + GOG + Uplay)

>> No.7305998

>>7305981
I've honestly never heard anyone refer to this game as particularly PC/multikulti/whatever until this very thread, I think people are, as >>7304643 put it, injecting current year political polarization nonsense into what is a product of the based 2000's.

>> No.7306017

>>7304816
Don't bother with win 98/95 on virtual box. It's a shitshow, maybe try with vmware instead

>> No.7306094

>>7305998
What kind of rock do you live under? Anita Sarky praised this game a few years ago. All I'm saying is that if you apply a "current year" political lens to it, the games' horrible sales performance makes more sense. It was a harbinger of things to come, a "progressive flop". And while Jade isn't some sort of freak, other games either A. Were more fun B. Had better fanservice or C. Had both. You had stuff like Vice City, Bloodrayne, POP Sands of Time, just more attractive games

>> No.7306095

>>7297230
I love every bit of this game. I love the atmosphere, love the story, love furies, absolutely love how everything snappy and fluent, love everything except for one little detail - A FUCKING FINAL BOSS.

>> No.7306381

>>7306094
>All I'm saying is that if you apply a "current year" political lens to it
And why the fuck would you do this? Stop letting this shit live rent free in your fucking skull. God I hate you faggots who can't devoice ANYTHING from your shitty two parties of extremism. Grow a fucking personality

>> No.7306420

>>7306381
First, try to actually read what you reply to
Second, all right you have a point so let me try to phrase this differently:
2003: You have Bloodrayne, Vice City, Sands of Time etc. Why would you play and/or buy Beyond Good and Evil instead of those? Again, read the second half of my last reply

>> No.7306428

>>7306420
Your point is that you have brain damage, I know.

>> No.7306430

>>7306381
Don't bother with that anon, he's gone full 2010's. I bet he was once a cool person but the last decade fucking ruined him just like how it ruined everyone and everything else. Even ME.

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>>7304986
>no u

>> No.7307042

>>7306094
> if you apply a "current year" political lens to it, the games' horrible sales performance makes more sense
And how does that make any sense at all? The majority of sales were back in 2003, before 99% of people knew about critical race theory and the "social justice" agenda. You can analyze the game through a modern political lens if you want, but FFS don't blame the sales on it.
> 2003: You have Bloodrayne, Vice City, Sands of Time etc. Why would you play and/or buy Beyond Good and Evil instead of those?
Probably because they were more appealing concepts than being a photojournalist. Also, if you want to talk about analyzing through the lens of modern politics, look at Blodrayne. That game would cause incredible asshurt if it came out today. Leftists would make bait saying the Nazis are meant to symbolize republicans, and republicans would take the bait hook line and sinker. The culture war would turn the game into a ridiculous controversy, just like it did with Wolfenstein.

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>>7297230
i actually liked her character design and thought she was kind of cute

the white characters are also pretty smart and aware enough to know what is going on and play a significant role in keeping Jade alive, because she has no real idea of how much danger she is actually in until later on in the game.

its more like an over-produced indie proof of concept game, than a fully fledged AAA title, and if anything, its kind of a good game to chill out and play. its pretty good imo.

also, in case anyone wants to think that the baddies are supposed to be Nazis (they are, in a way) but they're also supposed to be a combination of the Commies and Americans (alongside another country) during the time of the height and hysteria of the aftermath of 2001, with a touch of 1984 thrown in for good measure.

its a good game in its own right, its just not the best, and that makes it a decent game since it at least tried to be a game. better than most modern shit desu.