/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7301102
They do slow down a lot, from about 16ish. But it varies a lot from person to person, depending on general health and genetic factors. By 33 you could no longer set world records but you could still beat most normal games.

>>7301110
How about by 43? Kirby and nothing else?

>>7301102
I'm 35 and have no problem beating MMX. Where I suffer is rhythm games that need super fast and accurate inputs. I get fatigued after about an hour or so. I can play just about everything else no problem.

>>7301119
No. Even at 80 you should still be able to play most games. You might struggle with bullet hells and certain genres, but even then with practice you could become an average player. As you get older you lose the ability to be great at something, not the ability to do that thing at all.

>>7301102
Put him in front of a mega man game he's never played and see how well he plays it compared to MMX. He's likely played through a few dozen times and knows how to wreck the game just from experience, rather than reflex. A lightgun shooter might be a better test of reflexes.

>>7301102
i'm guessing for some is that once you're in your 30's you're playing less than you used to and probably just blame age for the lack of skill. I'm 35 and never stopped playing competitive fighting games as a hobby and have frame perfect muscle memory.

>>7301110
>By 33 you could no longer set world records
This isn't true

>>7301102
> I thought by that age people's reflexes and mental processing slowed down too much to handle any but the easiest of videogames
I can't believe people are taking this bait. >>7301110
>>7301134
No. Just no.

>>7301235
Elaborate. I think the anon's first post was a bit too extreme but that his second was almost just right.

the biggest change for me is that my hands hurt more if I am playing a game with poor ergonomics, ie. midway GB ports.

If you are worried about aging, then remember that your body is a temple; Make sure that you eat well, that you exercise, and that you get enough sleep. If you treat your body like shit, then your older years will be shit.

>>7301187
This, if guitarists and pianists can still play complex parts when they get old and grey then you can bet that you can still play games.

>>7301102
Age has fuck all to do with it unless you like a senior citizen or something. Guys who claim "age" is the factor are all middle age burnout fat fucks who didn't keep up with themselves/keep themselves in practice on whatever game.

>>7301125
Try losing weight, fatty.

>>7301251
Reflex and reactions only degrade appreciably with age if not used/trained
If you never stopped playing games you'll be a tiny bit slower than a teenager but nowhere near as slow as someone who never played or dropped games in their twenties

I've only noticed this on fighting games. When I play my brother who is ten years younger than me, I can't remember the long strings I was able to pull of on Tekken or some of the setups on KoF but it might be years of lacking practice and taking care of a new toddler.

>>7301102
Reflexes don't really slow much over age. But what sometimes happens as you get older is you become more knowledgeable, such as learning the difference between reflexes and reaction time. For example, If you didn't just sperg out over being corrected you just got a little bit older and a little bit wiser.
Reaction times and how they change vary a lot by person but generally start to decline in your late teens. But the difference isn't much. It's not like someone who's 80 is 4 times as slow as someone who's 20. Unless you have some sort of medical problem you can probably expect an extra 25ms over that period, or roughly 10%.
You can train to improve your reaction times. I'm in my mid 50's and my typical visual reaction time is about 215ms. This is much faster than most people 1/3 my age. If you're 20, and mentally fit, and you train you can probably do better but like any kind of training it takes effort. Very for people are willing to make that effort.
You also react to different types of input as different speeds. My reaction time to audio is nearly 100ms faster than my reaction time to visual. With age and experience you can learn to take advantage of this. When my zoomie kid first got into fightan games he practiced a lot and worked on his reaction time but I would still easily hand him his ass. So badly so that he was convinced I was cheating. I was, in a way. I was listening to the sounds his controller made which game me nearly 1/10 of a second advantage.

>>7301102
The recently deceased Jonas Neubauer was excellent at Tetris and he was nearly 40. I'm 32 and can play MM games as well as ever. I suck at shmups, but then again I always have.

>>7301102
This is a cope made by people who were never good at games to begin with. Your reflexes don't drastically drop when you hit 30 nor do most games require insane reflexes, especially mega man.

>>7301272
>Guys who claim "age" is the factor are all middle age burnout fat fucks who didn't keep up with themselves/keep themselves in practice on whatever game.
Or zoomers like OP who know damn well this board is full of 30 and 40 somethings. It's bait. Report and move on.

Look at these retards gatekeeping the "skill" required for their hobby. If at 35 your relfexes are too dulled to play a fucking video game, you've got bigger problems.

In my 40s now. I have a hard time determining if it's my reflexes, or if that stuff people say about flatscreen TVs having input lag is true. I mostly play RPGs now as a result and have been slowly but surely going through the SSI Gold Box D&D games.

>>7301102
people slow down from inactivity much faster than they slow down from age
get on youtube and look up Bob Mundens old ass

>>7301376
>that stuff people say about flatscreen TVs having input lag is true
It's true

>>7301102
I just beat Mike Tyson for the first time in Punch Out on an NES and CRT and beat Megaman 1-6 on the same set up over the summer. I am 35. I play better now than I ever have, the only difference is I had literally all day when not in school to brute force a game till I beat it.
>>7301376
Flat screen input lag in not a meme. It's not noticeable for me when I am using an emulation box or something like SNES mini on my HD flat screen but that said I just CANNOT beat Mike Tyson on NES Classic. Can't do it. It must be slight input lag, not sure.
>>7301110
That said, if you are connecting actual consoles to flatscreens, the input lag is outrageous.

>>7301102
I just beat Mike Tyson for the first time in Punch Out on an NES and CRT and beat Megaman 1-6 on the same set up over the summer. I am 35. I play better now than I ever have, the only difference is I had literally all day when not in school to brute force a game till I beat it.
>>7301376
Flat screen input lag in not a meme. It's not noticeable for me when I am using an emulation box or something like SNES mini on my HD flat screen but that said I just CANNOT beat Mike Tyson on NES Classic. Can't do it. It must be slight input lag, not sure.

That said, if you are connecting actual consoles to flatscreens, the input lag is outrageous.

>>7301102
Im 33 and me and my bro spent a weekend playing Unreal 99 against inhuman and godlike bots and we did ok. Take care of yourself while you're young and you'll be fine.

>>7301102
I'm turning 35 this April.
I play csgo and I'm SMFC. I also play Street Fighter V competitively as an amateur online and offline.
I'd say my reflexes are still pretty sharp, whenever I test them it ends up within the 200-300ms range, which is the same as any csgo pro player, so not a problem at all with them.
I frequently save falling objects by picking them up before they fall.
Maybe it all has to do with me practicing martial arts all my life, but yeah, no problems in that field as of yet.

>>7301380
>Bob Munden
N-NANI? How is he so fast?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkmKJ-deFAY

>>7301423
superior nervous system, genetics

People in their 40s and 50s set the majority of new world records on golden age arcade games.

I'm 30 and my average reaction time is around 180~ms. And as far as I remember that's around where it was when I was younger too. I don't think age is a big determining factor for skills you regularly make use of. Fuck I know people in their upper 60's who are more flexible than my ass because I never stretch

>>7301513
At 45 or so I was in the top 10% of Injustice players and won about 2 out of every 5 matches I had with the guy who won the evo for it that year. I think reflexes are like most other muscles and skills, you keep using them and they stay sharp.

>>7301659
flexibility is largely genetic
ive barely ever stretched in my entire life, but I can bend like a pretzel

Most single-player games don't need good reaction time for top-level play. It's all about memorization and anticipation.

I'm 40 and the only thing vaguely like that that's gone wrong for me so far is that I now can get motion sickness from some first-person games sometimes. I haven't notice any loss of ability in any game except for that. I'm probably worse at something in some way, but I haven't actually seen it. I'm a better than ever in most ways; I have the patience and strategic skill to figure out ways to defeat bosses in action games that I never even saw as a kid because I'd give up early and move on to another game. I'm no expert at any game except MAYBE one or two obscure indie games that I really got into stupidly hard. I'm a generally competent player, same as I always was, except better thanks to adult patience etc. For what it's worth.

>>7301319
What the fuck? Tetris for Jonas fucking died?
Was it corvid?

>>7301423
and to think, the deadliest man who ever lived was born in a time of peace so he never had to kill anyone.

>>7301683
>flexibility is largely genetic
Flexibility depends on diet and exercise.
Genetics might play a role, but better diet will outpace it badly.

>>7301102
>20 year old anon here. How much do one's reflexes slow down by their 30s?
Not much if you take care of yourself.
t. hasn't slowed down at over 40

>>7301102
Wife was handing me a sandwich today and a slice of squash fell out of her hand and I caught it midair like spiderman

>>7301874
a tarantula bit him on his penis and he bled to death after cumming

>>7301102
I'm 32.

There definitely is a bit of mechanical slow down, but I play way smarter than I did when I was a kid. I'm quicker to pick up more advanced mechanics and understand the systems of a game better.

When I was 16 - 24ish I was pretty into Starcraft so I got very good mechanically, but those skills fade.

Honestly, I would think that until you're getting shit like arthritis or carpal tunnel that legitimately fucks up your hands, you're probably fine.

>>7301102
turns out you can beat videogames even if you are a fat slob with diabetus, who knew the reflex shit was a meme , only everyone

>>7301110
>By 33 you could no longer set world records but you could still beat most normal games.

You're a fucking idiot. There are genetic freaks who started mixed martial arts in their late 40's and dominated their division full of 20year olds one more than one occasion. It completely depends on the person's lifestyle, diet, exercise, intelligence, among other factors.

Maybe your retarded sloth ass crawled to a slug's pace but you should've put down the doritos and soda you american fuck.

>>7301102
remain active and you will never have to worry about it. The only thing that definitely slows down is your recovery/metabolism.

>>7301874
I don't know if they've disclosed the reason, but yes, he did die (no joke).
Also, I will never be able to beat quick draw Kirby now. I can only tie Metaknight.

>>7301102
I'm 44. Still play retro games, homebrews and just picked up a PS4 just to check out its library (Control is a great game BTW). I have no problems with my reflexes. However, I do have some carpal tunnel that effects how long I can play game and my patience just isn't what it used to be with more challenging games (like old platformers, etc.), as much as I would like to complete every game still left on my list, I just don't have the time and care more about other things these days to invest as much effort into them as I used to.

>>7302248
well okay, but I was very flexible before I ever exercised, and ive been mostly sedentary for over a decade and ive still got it
also my diet has never been very good

Itt: zoomies thinking 30 is old

>>7303353
For zoomies it is old. Most zoomies die from tidepoditis before then.

>>7301102
Your reflexes do slow but not enough for it to matter that much, unless you are elderly and are mentally deteriorating due to Alzheimer’s or dementia or something.

>>7301110
How shit are your genetics? I'm in my mid 30s and I effortlessly dominate scrubs in online FPS's all the time. In fact I'd say I have faster reactions now than I did when I was 16, though I am far more active and I do hand eye coordination exercises.

uhhh, those games only run at 60fps and aren't even frame perfect, you should be able to beat them all the way to your deathbed short of actual neurological problems

>>7301110
>By 33 you could no longer set world records
Meanwhile, the best DDR players in the world are all around that age and that game is 50% reflex and 50% physical activity.

>>7301102
You're really exaggerating the effects of aging. A guy who goes by the name Tokido wins the biggest fighting game tournaments in the world and he's 35 years old.

if you have sleep apnea you sure as fuck will start noticing cognitive decline in your 30s and 40s and beyond. It will not only manifest in how reflexive you are with playing action-heavy video games, but it will also reflect in your job performance and your overall ability to remember details about things in a timely manner

feels bad man

>>7303635
>i'm retarded and have sleep apnea and blame my retardation on sleep apnea
That's just the retardation talking

>>7303653
>t. speaking from retard experience

>>7301134
I can't beat Dark Souls or Ikaruga, but have friends in their 40's that can do it. Part of it is definitely skill, but also never taking a break and continually making time to play video games. If you don't use it you're going to lose it.

>>7303667
>no u

>>7301376
>or if that stuff people say about flatscreen TVs having input lag is true
Nah it's true. There's bunch of time sensitive minigames in Final Fantasy IX that I couldn't do anymore. I tried it again on an old CRT and could get past 200 easily

>>7301376
People don't say flat screen TVs have input lag. Only retarded zoomies do Even ass end millennials are old enough to know there are flat screen CRTs.
>>7301389
>>7301403
>>7303989
zoom zoom

>>7301102
The difference is extremely minimal. I wouldn't worry about unless you're into competitive mobas or fps games. Even then, it's still not hopeless.

>>7301110
This is true of NASCAR race drivers and fighter pilots. I doubt it's true of many other things though. Remember the ancient romans called someone in their 30s a "princeps" or "in the prime of his life". that was considered the ideal age for military activity.

>>7301110
there are 40+ years old goalkeepers. goalkeeping is all about reflexes

>>7303575
More memorization than reflex

In regards to videogames, I wouldn't worry about losing reflexes until you hit like 60. If you're sucking now, you always did.

>>7301102
Israel pls go and stay go

>>7304090
Nigger. Recent DDR games add new super, super, super difficult boss songs that you only get one shot at each time you clear an entire gauntlet of other fuck-hard songs and you instantly lose if you miss a couple of notes. The 30 years are always the first to clear these through sight reading, since you just outright can't memorize them until someone's cleared them to show the whole chart.

>>7301102
It's a myth about your reflexes getting "worse".
This goes from Dota pros to CSGO pros and even speedrunners.

The problem is that new blood comes in, and because they have played the game since they were born they can easily beat someone who is older than them.

After all, when did you start learning to play a competitive game? This goes for speed running as well because there will soon be speed runners who can play the game nearly frame perfectly.

It also goes for sports too, NFL, NBA, etc. Age has very little

however sports and esports and speedrunning has a much bigger problem. Drugs. The reason why pros are pros is because they abuse snus like crazy, some nicotine, some even meth and speed.