/vr/ - Retro Games

I've been looking for a nice boxed copy to play but I can never find one in my price range.

tried it on actual hardware, and well, it's not a very good game in general. Just emulate it and then forget it exists.

It's a pretty interesting game but ONLY for fans of Evangelion.
The animations and graphics look incredible for a N64 game.

>>730065
Isn't that because it was a port of a Saturn game?

>>730081
No, the Saturn game is a visual novel with schedule management and dating sim elements, it even had one exclusive girl not from the anime.

Also, one interesting point, this game had an alternate ending before End of Evangelion came out.

>>730135
Why didn't they have the original ending in this game, anyway?

>>730081
No, the Saturn game was a visual novel with dating sim elements, it even had a new girl not from the anime.

>>730171
They do the whole ego trip to save animation thing, then go into a proper, new ending to the series.

Don't ask me about it, I'm no EVA geek.

>>730135

It was actually released after The End of Evangelion (otherwise, they wouldn't have come up with the Missions 12 and 13, rigght?), the game was released in 1999 and the movie in 1998.

The difference in the ending is that Shinji does not choke Asuka in the beach, rather they hold hands and Asuka kind of smiles to Shinji, so it's a happy ending, kind of.

>>731153

And of course the final battle of Shinji against the Eva series, which also never actually happens in the movie, Shinji just freaks out while the Eva series easily crucify him. That's another reason why I like this game, you can beat their asses with the awakened Eva-01.

>>731159
So this is like the manga?
Did Sadamoto take clues from a N64 game?

>>731205

Maybe, but in the game you fight them in the sky with the winged Eva-01, and using a double spear of longinus

>>731153
Shit, fuck you for not spoilering that. I'm on the front page, and I just got done with episode 13. Fuck you dude. I'm not even going to finish this anymore

>>731221
There's crap happening in the ending than what the guy just spoilered. Don't worry.

>>731229
No way, Asuka was the only character I liked, there's no point to finishing it. Shinji is a little bitch, and Rei is just awful.

>>731229
There's more*

>>731232
Technically. Asuka wins da Evanjellyon.

>>731237
God dammit, Shinji you bastard, how could you kill the best girl you little bitch?

>>731221

If you got episode 13 done, then you already finished the game.

Sorry for the spoiler though, should have filtered it. But yeah theres one more thing in the ending that I didn't mention... it's nothing major, nothing that alters the story, but cool looking.

>>731240
It wasn't him.
It was these white harpy-like mass produced Evas in the screenshot.
But then weird shit happens and both Shinji and Asuka are alive and alone in a wasted Earth while everyone else is still turned to Tang.
The choking thing was mostly a bookending device.

>>731247

>>731249
Good job keeping yourself unspoiled until now, anon.
EoE's weird ending has been talked about to exhaustion everywhere since 1998, really.

>>731232

Asuka doesn't die.

Oh wait, that guy got mad at me for spoiling the movie ending and not the game's?

Holy shit... I'm sorry anon, but as other anon said, EoE's ending is one of the most well known spoilers since 1998.
Only on par with Aeris' death

>>731265
All I know is there are mass produced EVAs, a giant naked Rei or something, and Asuka get choked

Okay, I don't exactly want to go /a/ on here since I haven't watched this shit in a decade, but apparently they made a new movie series out of Evangelion? And it's apparently really bad, especially the second one, since it plays up the love triangle aspect and makes it a Shinji + Rei pair with Asuka being totally okay with it? I dunno for sure though, that's just second hand information. Is it actually any good?

>>731221
>I just got done with episode 13.
>>731232
>No way, Asuka was the only character I liked, there's no point to finishing it. Shinji is a little bitch, and Rei is just awful.

Then don't watch the movie End Of Evangelion, BAKA. This piss-awful movie is one of the [best|worst] things to happen to the franchise. It was criticaly [acclaimed|defamed]. In other words, watching it [is|isn't] mandatory.

But seriously, I never watched them because they suck.

>>731272
That's mostly correct, except the really bad part of it now is 3.33 (released last year), in the ending of 2.22, Shinji causes a near 3I just to save Rei from an angel. Kaworu comes from the moon to halt it.
In 3.33, 14 years have passes, Shinji is awoken from Eva-01, some kind of stasis, the world is all red and read, Misato is now the captain of a floating battleship made from an angel's skeleton with the purpose of destroying Gendo and NERV (which is now staffed only by him, Fuyutsuki, a soulless clone of Rei and gay pianoman Kaworu), Asuka and Mari haven't aged, Mari is still useless, and Shinji acts retarded.

>>731268

Stay away from further spoilers and just finish watching the series and the movies. Even with those spoilers, your skull is STILL going to get fucker hard when you get to EoE, mark my words.
Back in 1998/1999, when I finished watching the series, I wanted to see EoE badly, but back then the movie just wasn't edited anywhere else other than in Japan, so I had to wait for a fansubbed VHS with bad quality to see it in early 1999. before that, I got the OST CD because I wanted to at least experience SOMETHING about EoE. The OST came with a booklet full of pictures, so I saw the mass produced Evas, giant Rei and Shinji choking Asuka, and many more images from the movie... my mind was still fucked pretty hard when I watched the movie, so don't worry, you'll be good.

>>731272
Rebuild is great. The animation is fucking incredible, the story is less clunky and better explained, a lot of the needless bullshit got cut to help streamline it and the action sequences are top notch.

The first one is literally just the first few episodes reanimated, the second one starts to drift off into its own story but still parallels the original, and the third one takes a totally new direction that was hit or miss with the fans. I personally enjoyed all three a lot, but purists won't be happy with it. And the love triangle shit isn't nearly as bad or prominent as you made it out to be (I'd actually say 2.22 is the best of the 3 films thus far).

It's worth a watch for anyone who sat through the original, at least.

>>731282
Oh yeah, since you haven't watched the other ones, forgot to tell you who is Mari.
Pic related.

>>731272
>apparently they made a new movie series out of Evangelion?
Yes
>And it's apparently really bad
No
>especially the second one
It's way better than the first one.
>since it plays up the love triangle aspect
Yes it (kinda) does. But you need character development, you can't expect three teenagers to live in a "closed space" together and not go "love triangle".
>and makes it a Shinji + Rei pair with Asuka being totally okay with it?
No it doesn't.
>I dunno for sure though, that's just second hand information.
Bad anon, bad. It's only 6 hours of your life, you can spare it.
>Is it actually any good?
YES.

>>731282
I'm sorry but what? I think I'll just stick with original series.

>>731282
All red and dead*

>>731302

Not the guy you replied to, but watch Rebuild...
Even if you don't like how characters are handled, animation is incredible and actually there's a fan theory about Rebuild being actually a sequel to the original series and EoE, with time loops and weird shit, as always, Rebuild will leave us with more questions than answers, just like EoE.

>>731262

>>731307
I did watch it. I didn't watch the 3rd film, but all that really turned me off. Then again, I don't really like anime to begin with. I'd rather watch LOLTNA this week.

OP here, I guess it's impossible to make an Eva game thread and it NOT turn into a series/movies discussion.
But I can't post about the game on /a/ because they'll direct me to /v/, and /v/ will start their waifu wars as soon as Evangelion is mentioned, so I thought this would be the best place to ask. Anyway, as long as the discussion is civil, I don't see the harm.

Back to Evangelion 64, anyone ever unlocked all of the action animation sequences in the game? I just got done unlocking all of the mission 12.5 and 13 scenes, but I still have a lot to unlock from mission 8, and a few ones remaining from 1 and 2.

I doubt this game would run on a Virtual Boy.

Seeing as you probably meant /VR/ Trooper...

Game's kinda fun.

So, I just started playing it and....
Do I just have to sit back and purposefully lose in the battles where Berserk mode is supposed to happen?

>>731356

No, but battles have different outcomes depending on how you do. You can beat Sachiel without going Berserk.

Are you reading a guide on how the controls work? You can break the angel's AT Firled (get close to it and when their AT Field appears, release yours immediately (C-down), if you are close enough and the timing is right, and animation showing Eva-01 trying to rip the angel's AT Field start. You have to alternately press the A and C-down buttons, not too fast, not too slow, if you do it right the angel's AT Field will be broken, then you can beat him more easily.

A lot of the commands you can do depend on your synchro rate, if it's higher than 100%, you can press up+A and Eva-01 will kick Sachiel away. Otherwise rapidly press A 3 or more times and you will punch and kick the angel.
When the angel is kicked away, you'll get to a closeup of Eva-01, and a sign saying "ANGEL >>" (showing the direction the angel is) will appear. Press R+control stick left and Eva-01 will start running. At one point you will see the eva's eyes shinning, right in that momment you can enter a command, which can be A, A+B, Up+A, holding UP then A, and more. Again, depending on your synchro, different attacks will trigger.

Hope it helps.

Anyway going Berserk is also fine, the Eva automatically rips Sachiel's AT Field and the synchro ratio is high always.

>>731282

That...sounds totally fucking bonkers. Now I guess I have to see the thing myself.

Still, something I really kind of liked about the original series is that it started off as a run of the mill mech anime but then started pulling the rug out. Things stopped resolving in a neat and tidy fashion and things seemed to get worse instead of better, culminating in shit finally going bonkers in EoE.

Reading spoilers for Rebuild episodes 2 and 3 (I saw 1 way back when) almost reads like fanfiction...especially 3, which seems to come out of left fucking field. It could be good, but would people actually think anything of it if it wasn't called Evangelion?

>>731375
Oh nice, with the help of what you just said and some save scumming to get the timing right, I managed to get Sachy without berserker. Thanks anon.

>>731389
>Reading spoilers for Rebuild episodes 2 and 3 (I saw 1 way back when) almost reads like fanfiction...especially 3, which seems to come out of left fucking field.
It gives this impression because 1) you're reading spoilers and not seeing the full evolution to get from point A to point B and 2) because you may be thinking with the original's scenario as a frame of reference.

>It could be good, but would people actually think anything of it if it wasn't called Evangelion?
Yes.
It's kinda hard to imagine "It would be Evangelion but without being called Evangelion", but still, if you're in it for the robots, you're doing it wrong. NGE has always been about character development and relationships.

It hits even harder in Rebuild 3 because there are no more relationships: the hero (our point of reference) has been put away for 14 years, he comes back and all the old gang gives him (us) the cold shoulder, refuse to tell him (us) what happened,... When he finally find someone willing to tell him (us) what happened, he finally got a shoulder to cry on. This is great storytelling because of all the different reactions to Shinji all relating to the viewer.

Seriously, the Rebuild experience may seem far-fetched, the story may sound like fanfiction,... Still, you got one of the best animated features of the last five years and the people behind it are REALLY over-thinking it.

I won't post examples, just go to evageeks.org: some places are more autistic than /vr/ ;)

>>730174
>No, the Saturn game was a visual novel with dating sim elements, it even had a new girl not from the anime.

There were like 5 Evangelion games on the Saturn. Which one do you mean?

I personally liked the game for the N64. It had decent one on one fights, then it seems like every other mission you are doing something different like aiming up laser sights to coordinating your moves, and so on.

It isn't fantastic, but it is far from bad.

>>732017
I don't know, I might have gotten it mixed up with Iron Maiden or Shinji Ikari Raising Project.

This shit's confusing.

What's the best N64 emulator on android? I want to try playing this on my s3 mini (i have sixaxis controller).

I've been an Eva fan for around 13 years now and a gamer my entire life and I had no clue this game existed...Strange.

>>732253

It's only for fans of Evangelion, but yes, it's one of the most decent Eva games.
And I love that instruction manual cover mimmicking the pamphlet Misato gives to Shinji on episode 1 "NerV - For Your Eyes Only"

>>732017

He probably means 2nd Impression, which is also a visual novel much like Girlfriend of Steel, but there's a new girl character there with glasses (and she's an angel). For some reason it wasn't as popular as GoS, probably because the voice actress for Mana was Megumi Hayashibara and that alone made her more popular than the other girl.
I think there is another 2nd Impression game on Saturn, then some mahjong "shinji and friends" also released for PC in Japan, and some "gallery" discs... but the best known game of Eva for Saturn is 2nd Impression.

>>732391
well, all your life has been a lie then.

>>731221
haha, faggot cares about spoilers.

Hey guys, I'm trying to run this on P64 but the graphics keep going all over the place and I can't pass the mission where you need to aim with the positron rifle to the geometric Angel... any ideas of what settings I can touch to see if it works better?

I actually owned this back in ye day when the N64 was current hardware. Got it from an import shop with a converter and I plan on someday readding it to my collection.

It was neat, if odd. Not really a game, it's more of a "Show Simulator". The game slavishly follows the exact events of the show, and because the show didn't really have a BIG PUNCHY FIGHT every episode but usually had very specficic operations where the Evangelion only did one thing, the game is pretty much a minigame collection. There's lock-on-and-fire bits, Dance if you want to Win is a timed buttonpress thing that's almost like a rhythm game.

It's definitely only for fans, but it's neat.

Also they for some reason couldn't quite accurately record the evangelion roaring so in this game when Unit 01 goes berserk it lets out this kinda uhhhh...howling/mooing noise that's so weird it's almost disturbing in its own right

>>734439
Try Glide64 (graphic plugin)

>>734531

>uhhhh...howling/mooing noise that's so weird it's almost disturbing in its own right

Did you check the sound test? (which is also great too, with the SEELE "Sound Only" monoliths) In the voice sound test (which has over 300 voice clips), one of the last one sounds like a woman growling... I haven't heard it on the game I don't think... so I was thinking MAYBE it's Megumi Hayashibara? Remember she recorded the Eva-01's voice... it's probably manipulated so that it sounds like a beast and not a cute girl, but I think in this game it's possible to hear her growling, weird and nice.

And yeah the game is full of detail, it only lacks in the gameplay department, because as you said it's pretty hard to make a accurrate version of the series in videogame form, the battles aren't all that action-packed in the series, but all the detail put into everything else (Eva models, the original voice actors recording specifically for this game, the different kind of animations depending on how you perform in each level, etc). It's really a treat for any fan of Evangelion.

>>731221
>needing spoilers for a 20-year old series.
Aeris dies in FF7

>start playing this
>get to mission 10

no, wait, seriously... what?

what the fuck am I supposed to do?
holy shit this makes no sense.. do I need to aim or what? no matter what I do, the spear never gets to its goal. what the fuck am I playing? jesus fuck

>>735767

I don't think even the programmers knew what the fuck is going on in that level.

I can't remember how I beat it but I remember having tried over 100 times until one lucky try worked out.

>>735767
>what the fuck am I playing?

A Ban Dai licensed game. Pretty graphics, absolutely horseshit programming and gameplay.

Considered kusoge, not even worth it as an Eva fan. It's really, really bad.

Is this the japanese equivalent to Superman 64?

Bought this like a year ago or some such. I think it's pretty awesome, all things considered. Straightforward and doesn't need a knowledge of Japanese to play or anything.

>>736234

Awesome? This piece of turd?
The programming is a joke, button input coding is totally bogus (and this is totally unacceptable for a game that relies 95% on buttonmash... it doesn't even work!), the programmers for this game must have been a pair of sedated monkeys trying to suicide themselves, otherwise it makes no sense.

They should have released just a gallery, some of the 3D models look... well, not nice, they're still shitty N64 graphics with bad textures, but I guess for the time it looked... curious, at much, not even good.

I bought this piece of shit for $40 thinking it'd be good and sold it for $10 the moment I finished it. It was easily the worst gaming experience I had.

>>736173
Now that's just mean.
Fun fact, hackers found a gameshark code for a debug menu that lets you see everything, including individual character models and animation.
Worth a look if you're into archaic 3D.

>>731314

>>736173
No. This is like maybe a 5/10. It's nowhere near Superman 64 bad.

>>736243
don't hurt yourself trying to be maddox there kid

>>736243
I'm sorry to hear that, Anon.
I enjoyed it.

>>736250

Just because something has "Neon Genesis Evangelion" on it doesn't mean you have to like it.

It's okay to not like things with the NGE label.

>>736256
Yeah, and you can not like something without kicking your gear-shift into extreme and saying stupid shit like "a pair of sedated monkeys trying to suicide themselves"

>>736253

In what twisted kind of way did you enjoy a game with bad (and by bad I mean TERRIBLE) input coding? It's unplayable.
And not satisfied with having incompetent programmers who can't even code how button input work, they go ahead and make almost every mission rely on button mash.

You might as well smash a nail into your penis, I bet you'll enjoy that too.

>>736265

Come on man, that was just a funny way to say the programmers for this game were totally inept.

>>736269
since you seem to enjoy ridiculously confrontational metaphor, I'll offer that I got through the game just fine. Not the most fun minigame collection I'll warrant and ultimately a curiosity, but I wasn't actively impeded from proceeding.

Given that I cleared this game in an afternoon when I was 14 years old, I'd postulate that you're the one with the coordination of a sedated monkey smashing a nail into your penis or whatever. Given that you are apparently unable to speak in a manner that doesn't paint you as mindfuckingly insipid, assuming you're bad at even the simplest videogames possible isn't a huge leap.

>>736271
>funny way to say the programmers for this game were totally inept
>funny

>>736276

Sorry if it didn't amuse you.

But my point still stands: Ban Dai can't code for shit, they're just good at acquiring licenses and making unplayable games with them.
They got better now that they are publishers and merged with Namco, but back then Ban Dai was pure shovelware.

>>736269
I try not to go into full 'sperg mode when playing video games, for one.

We're gettting trolled, everyone please stop replying.

>>736278

Calm down man, I'm just saying this game is bad and we all know its bad.

You only like it because of dem evanjellyans and teh rei.

It is a poor game and you know it.

and yeah I also finished it in one sitting and sold it immediately after.

>>736284

In what way we're getting trolled?

>>736290
>tell someone to calm down
>use extreme metaphors for excruciating physical pain just because you played a video game

Yeah, nah.

>>736292

>being susceptible about mean words on 4chan

>>736302
It's not the words themselves, you retard. It's the hypocritical nature of your posts.

>>736302
>getting your posts deleted for being a shitposter

VIDYA GAMES

>>736304

Okay, how about this:

I think this game is very bad. The programmers weren't really capacited for working on coding, much less videogame coding, and this was probably one of the worst video"games" I had the disgrace to play.
But I respect anyone who thinks otherwise.

Better, princess?

also

>mad janitor fan of Evangelion deleting my posts

>>736309
That's actually great, I respect that opinion entirely and welcome you to further enlightened discussion on /vr/.

Now get the fuck over yourself and stop being such a needlessly condescending shitstain who assumes the only reason people don't like your opinions is because they're "jealous", and you might actually get somewhere.

>>736312

Jealous? now I don't know if you're trying to troll or shitpost or what... but when or how did I imply people don't like my opinions because they are "jealous"?
I genuinely ask myself how can anybody enjoy this game in any shape or form, but I guess some of you aren't willing to answer that because apparently I'm a troll and a shitposter.

Has anyone played any of the Evangelion VNs?
Were they good?

>>736314

>Evangelion licensed videogame
>Good

Evangelion visual novels feel like fanfiction (bad one at that), so if you're into that sorta stuff check them out. They don't add anything to the original plot other than teeny bopper romantic (and hysterical) pandering.

>>736315
>>736318
Are you done yet?

>>736319

Replying to my fellas? Yup, until someone else asks another question about Eva games.

>>736314
Shinji Ikari Rising Project is famously pretty good, apparently there's schedule management like Princess Maker, which was also designed by Gainax.
I never played it as there's no english Patch, though.

>>736320
Your general consensus is that they all suck. We don't need individual posts about it.

>>736321
>Shinji Ikari Rising Project

Is it this game?

>dem horrible desgins

do the characters in game look this bad?

>>736323

But I can explain why they suck in detail, at least the ones I've played.

It's an historical game for NGE fans.
If you're not one of the original NGE fans you can skip it, it's completely meaningless to you.

>>736334

I've been an Evangelion fan since mid '98 and this game is absolutelt meaningless to me.
Do I need to be an even older fan to appreciate it or what?

>>736326
>dem horrible desgins
It looks faithful to me.

>>736334

Yeah, I remember reading about it on anime & manga magazines at the time (1999), some of them came with CD-ROMs with video clips and music and galleries, and one of them had some realtime videos of Evangelion 64, my dick couldn't get any harder.
The only store in my country selling the game (a store owned by a japanese guy) had it for U$S300.

one of the best 60 quid import's I got back in the day, a good many years back now the 64 was still in full swing back then.

I admit I used the code to unlock everything in it after spending some time trying to do it the honest way but in the scheme of things as long as I got to play it who really cares eh

Nice hidden 2 player mode as well, assuming you had someone to play it with, though using the Lance did feel a bit cheap in that mode

>>737503

How do you even activate the 2 player mode using the actual cart? I remember reading something on some site about doing whatever command with the 2nd controller, or something like that, but never worked for me. I just thought the only way to get access to it was through ROM hacking.

I recall it being slightly tricky the first time but it soon becomes easier, gamefaqs has the info for accessing them yes here http://www.gamefaqs.com/n64/198127-neon-genesis-evangelion/cheats theres 2 of them, the mission 11 one makes p1 always Unit 1 the other mode lets you choose