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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>7290708

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

OP PASTE
https://pastebin.com/VVbmMrpE

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
-Album of infographics with setup information and user content recommendations

Same thing, in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake Trilogy (2020-11): https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Doom Shovelware
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR
Fileplanet archives
https://www.quaddicted.com/files/mirrors/ftp.planetquake.com/
Doom RPG series
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):
https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS

>> No.7298665

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
500ml of /vr/
BETA, UPDATED:
https://archive.org/details/500ml-vr-halloween-beta
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/7041037/#7043379
https://discord.gg/F968y8Wj4x

=== NEWS ===

[1-15]Time Tripper, a Doom II episode with custom conent and minor gameplay changes
https://heckscaper.com/tt/

[1-15]Wrath: Aeon of RUIN Updated
https://steamcommunity.com/games/1000410/announcements/detail/4589698632264671265
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2N12cxEXVs

[1-13] vkQuake updated
https://github.com/Novum/vkQuake/releases/tag/1.05.2

[1-12] YamagiQ2 testbuild with vulkan
https://github.com/yquake2/yquake2/pull/643

[1-12] Crispy Doom 5.10.0 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/67168-crispy-doom-5100-update-jan-12-2021/

[1-12] Shrak unofficial patch released
https://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=62008

[1-10] Progs_dump v2.00 released, a dev kit that expands vanilla possibilites for mapping, adds QoL features
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTbkLP3B2FE
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1A3v318I8s4ZtbOsW08ok7nY83mAXdOAX/view

[1-9]500ML updated with a new map for playtesting: >>7274097

[1-9]Quakewulf releases Security Terminal for Quake 2
http://quakeulf.suxos.org/3d/maps/console.zip

[1-8] Woof version 3.1.0 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/112333-this-is-woof-310-jan-08-2021-updated-winmbf/

[1-7] Corruption Cards updated to 1.0
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=67939&p=1178053#p1178053

[1-6] Another anon shares a map they made for a larger project (Limit removing, MAP09 slot)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/2ivjew3sw4uipgf/hf09.wad/file

[1-6] Anon shares a WIP map, looking for feedback (ZDoom compatible)
https://files.catbox.moe/yk5fc1.wad

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0/edit?usp=sharing

TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST

>> No.7298682
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7298682

PSA: Let this thread die at page 9 or 10, page 8 minimum because the janitors aren't going to lock the thread before that.
and there is plenty to talk

>> No.7298685

>>7298592
also, is that a blue imp?
seems like they're doing something similar to doom rpg
wonder if they also have different names too

>> No.7298687

>>7298685
it looks like nightmare imp

>> No.7298689

>>7298682
Nah. Will make a new thread as soon as this thread hits 490 posts.

>> No.7298692

>/vr/ is actually hyped for mobile Bethesda game
THE ABSOLUTE STATE

>> No.7298697

>>7298692
it's a shitty product but i'm just interested in some parts of it

>> No.7298703
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7298703

>>7298565
Absolutely based keeping the Ion Fury torch lit. Favorite Build game.

>> No.7298715

>faggot begs for a new thread to not be made before page 10

>someone makes it anyway

Based. The absolute state of /vr/ cucks.

>> No.7298716

>>7298663
also, truly this old pic is a 1:1 representation of /vr/'s mapping projects

>> No.7298718

>>7298703
Her design is so fucking boring, her one liners suck as well, no personality.

>> No.7298721
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>>7298718
Yeah yeah I saw what you said last thread.

>> No.7298726

>>7298721
I have yet to play IF but if this is seriously the quality of sprite work the dev team considered acceptable, they are pathetic. A blind monkey could make better looking sprites by jamming a paint brush up it's ass and farting at the canvas.

>> No.7298727

>>7298591
>What is BTSX ep3 theme this time?
I believe E3 is meant to be sort of interdimensional or something. Judging from screenshots I've seen, there'll be a mix of techbase and temple maps that are on the weirder side, but also some otherworldly and void type maps too, I imagine.

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>>7298726
Word.

>> No.7298736

>>7298726
The fuck are you on about, it looks outstanding. It's one thing to have a genuine complaint about the game, but now you're just making shit up.

>> No.7298737

>>7298718
This is true, the game is fun though.

>> No.7298739

>>7298736
Do you have eyes? Look at the shading, the lack of depth between torsos and limbs. It's fuck ugly and lazily done.

>> No.7298743

>>7298715
I'm warning everyone - if you persist in making new threads, I will say an N-word in the next one. I'm dead serious, do not push me.

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>>7298715
>>7298689
>Somebody
i predicted your derailment and did it earlier
GET FUCKED ALFO!

>>7298703
>>7298721
she is literally wearing GITS Shirow cop gear
if friedrich is smart he should give her Deunan's suit with motoko's jacket

>> No.7298746

>>7298721
Hah never noticed Duke before

>> No.7298747

>>7298736
its bait

>> No.7298748
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>>7298721
It's massively wasted potential, it's obvious they were terrified of offending anyone so they stuck with a very dull, inoffensive, forgettable design, this extended into her personality. Have you seen her previous designs before the boring modern one?
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/562860/old_view/1676902239539040353?l=german

>> No.7298752

>>7298676
>3 TIMES THE GUNG
>3 TIMES THE FUNG
I don't get it.

>> No.7298753

>>7298739
I see shading and core of shadow, even reflection in lighting. Maybe you're just a retard?

>> No.7298757

>>7298748
booba

>> No.7298760

>>7298748
>seriously thinking a dev could get way with a design like that in modern society and not get skinned alive

This isn't the world you grew up in anymore, boomer-kun.

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>>7298748
I could not give that much of a shit as you do. It feels good to shoot enemies to death, and it is a FPS. I like this design though, but I also like her final design.

>> No.7298765

>>7298752
>3 TIMES THE FUNG
She has vaginal yeast infection.

>> No.7298768

>>7298748
>MAN WHY DIDNT THESE FAG DEVS MAKE BIG TITS AND SEXY SHIT EVERYWHERE THEY MUST BE FAGS HAHA

you are aware people lose their jobs, homes and lives over shit like that now, right?

>> No.7298769

>>7298748
booba

>> No.7298770

>>7298748
booba

>> No.7298771
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>>7298762
Like this isn't nearly the crime you're making it out to be.

>> No.7298773
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>>7298748
Previous designs looks pretty shitty with exception to the barbwire one. It all reminds me too much of Danger Girl. Still happy enough with what we got. Why does this always get brought up?

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7298774

>>7298771
Cool cover.

>> No.7298776

>>7298748
Heavy Metal was 40 years ago. You need to let go. Shitty Tank Girl wasn't worth it.

>> No.7298778

>>7298748
baseda

>> No.7298780

>>7298773
Yeah, but what exactly we got? Describe her.

>> No.7298781

>>7298748
>>7298762
>>7298773
>we could have gotten this

>instead we got this
>>7298771

>fags are alright with this

>> No.7298784

>>7298771
WHERE ARE HER FUCKING TITS

>> No.7298786
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>>7298773
they all look like 90's genetic ripoff of jim lee's shit or fucking marvel.
but then all companies drank that shit

>>7298781
Hello Green Skelefaggot

>> No.7298787

>>7298774
I agree.
>>7298773
Nothing else to do really.
>>7298784
See?

>> No.7298789

>>7298718
Exactly my feelings.

Wasted opportunity hurts more than just a shit game.

>> No.7298790
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>>7298781
A girl... AND she swears? Whoa mama! Hummina hummina hummina! AROOOGA! Woof woof woof woof woof etc.

>> No.7298792

>>7298748
Nah I dont even want coomer shelly.

Just something more alluring. You dont need to turn her into a bimbo.

>> No.7298795
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>>7298780
Cute armored brunette with dated 90s references and some fun weapons. I mean, describe Duke Nukem? I don't get the appeal of crying over this crap non stop, we missed out on exactly nothing.

>>7298781
cope

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>>7298786
I think its easier to reveal that green skeleton and the ones hitting at IF and shelly are from Gearbox resetera's discord and kept shiptsting on /v/ for weeks until a gaming journo discovered the ruse on twitter and they suddenly stopped, also that the censoring was fake, and they never did that.

>> No.7298806

>>7298795
>>7298790
why are you people such faggots? Why are you ok with mediocrity? Don't you miss when shit didn't suck?

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>>7298789
The only thing I'll give are the one-liners. Some are real stinkers. Otherwise, I love this game. Faaantastic rooty tooty point n' shooty.

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>>7298795
Yes we did. We live in shit times. Shelly looks like shit.
Its simple.

But its not like other "indie" devs are making better stuff. Like Hedon.

its a dark future ahead.

Maybe some anon will mod her appearance.

>> No.7298815

>>7298795
>describe Duke Nukem?
Self-absorbed macho man who saved the world on several occasions and it really went into his head. See? For such a simple premise he already has several character flaws that make him stand out. Shelly has nothing. Every description of her will be superficial only.

>> No.7298818

>>7298665
https://twitter.com/Shorted_Fuse
Backwoods demo

>> No.7298819

>>7298812
cope seethe dilate

>> No.7298820
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>>7298805
all of this shit was planned by randy dickford as his final vendetta against Terminx because HE REALLY HATES the duke community for revealing that was a hack, second only to valve for exposing him as a fraud who steals money for his cheese pizza favors.

Also 3dr doesnt want to talk with dave oshry anymore becase the rainbow haired faggot was with them with the shitposting.

>>7298806
you should neck yourself 1st green skelefaggot
and for you and your fag resetera friends pop up here is because IF is getting good news very soon

>> No.7298823

>>7298818
Fuck, this wasn't the specific tweet
https://twitter.com/Shorted_Fuse/status/1350601620338434049
There's a download link in there

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>>7298808

There is just no real heart behind it. Or if there is it was really meh.
The maps have great references. But anything connected to the characters seem to have had no thought at all.

Give Shelly a meaner appearance and sleeker outfit, make the world have like innocent civilians getting killed by the villains. Just some spice man.

>>7298819

Yeah sure okay anon.

>> No.7298831
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These ones looked particularly cool.

>> No.7298842
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>>7298831

But no lets give her the most fucking shit boring design ever.
You are all faggots all of you.

>> No.7298843

>>7298812
Come on, Hedon is pretty good for a single coomer project. Artstyle may not be that great, but at least it has some substance. And penis

>> No.7298848

>>7298812
You know, this is Funny
Why no one has done that yet?

its just a fucking sprite edit

>7298831
>7298842
>>>/v/

>> No.7298849

>>7298831
00's as fuck. I like it.

>> No.7298850

>>7298843
Its pretty garbage. Also futa is disgusting.

>> No.7298852

>>7298842
Nah you're just a coomer.

>> No.7298860

>>7298852
Yes I am just a coomer anon.

And IF is just a sad eulogy to the heart that is not already there. A sad farewell.

>> No.7298864

>>7298850
>futa is disgusting

Reddit is thataway normie

>> No.7298865

>>7298850
There's no futa in the game tho

>>7298852
Yes, and?

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>>7298826
>There is just no real heart behind it. Or if there is it was really meh.
Naaaah that's just you. I promise. You've got strange standards. It shoots good, enemies die good, Shelly's a cop with a uniform and for some reason that drives the lot of you up a wall. Meanwhile I'm enjoying the game.

>> No.7298872

>>7298795
>that pic
lol the devs would rather hang themselves in protest than ever have her show that much skin.

>> No.7298873

>>7298852
And proud.

>>7298850
>>/reddit/

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>>7298860
>And IF is just a sad eulogy to the heart that is not already there. A sad farewell.
Naaaaah that's still just you, buddy boy I promise that.

>> No.7298881

>>7298852
This site is not under the jurisdiction of horny police, nor does it has extradition treaties with reddit and their ilk. This is coomer country, redditors keep walking.

>> No.7298884

>>7298873
Reddit do not like shemales? You must be mistaken anon.

>> No.7298887

>>7298878
Dude, you are embarassing yourself. We got it, you are content with mediocrity. Stop pushing your views on other people.

>> No.7298889

>>7298881
blue board

>> No.7298894

>>7298682
He wanted to get a jump on it to add "retro" back in so he could talk about FEAR or bitch about HL2 or whatever.

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>>7298869
>>7298878

It could have been better.

Look at her eyes, she has no soul.

>> No.7298905

>>7298795
Where in the game does she look like this?

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7298907

>>7298887
You let me worry about me my friend. It's appreciated, but unneeded.
>>7298897
Naaah still just you. Some of you lot are real crazy mother fuckers lol

>> No.7298908

https://twitter.com/zanieon/status/1350531232224968709

>> No.7298909

>>7298889
Just because it's SFW doesn't means we can't coom to it.

>> No.7298912

>>7298905
Seethe

>> No.7298918

>>7298908
Quake 3's shotgun is so ugly.

>> No.7298919

>>7298907
Yes we must be the crazy ones anon. Keep telling yourself that. You poor sod.
Even the main villain looks like shit.

>>7298912
Seethe over what?

>> No.7298921

>>7298897
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTc2G2PiHMU

>> No.7298923

>>7298894
I Created the thread because retalfdo would copypaste again

Also the Op pasta is thankfully back
And if he tries to change that, he will be raped with a jackhammer, though his faggotry may love that.

>> No.7298924

>>7298919
Dilate

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7298926

hahahahahhaa are you fucking SERIOUS?
All that over some shitty drawn cover art?
>what is happening with game devs these days?
>why are you ok with mediocrity?
PFFFTAHAHAHAHA
How EMBARASSING

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>>7298924
Okay anon control yourself.

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>>7298919
>Yes we must be the crazy ones anon.
As long as you can admit it, you're well on your way to being that much better for yourself. Proud of ya

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>>7298919
>We
Speak for yourself, IF's a good game

>> No.7298937

>>7298894
Nonissue

>> No.7298939

>>7298936
I never said its a bad game.

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>>7298939
Got you confused with someone else then, enjoy

>> No.7298948

>>7298926
The industry lost its heart anon...everything is...mediocre...

>> No.7298947

>>7298936
It IS a good game, it's just fuck ugly and Shelly is blatantly neutered compared to what she could have been.

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https://wadbot.tumblr.com/post/640432726810492928/ncc1701wad-ncc1701wad-map07-417-306-20
how many star trek mods exist?

>> No.7298957

>>7298948
Kill yourself Green Skelefaggot

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>>7298947
>it's just fuck ugly
Bad take
>and Shelly is blatantly neutered compared to what she could have been.
Sure

>> No.7298962

No no, hold on. I'm not done.
>didn't like the old design
>systematically tried to cancel them by feeding resetera
>THAT with show them for appealing to SJWs

PFFFTHNNNTAHAHAHAHA

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>>7298945

Its undeniable and you all get so defensive. It really makes me think people have wildly different standards.
In this case we are talking about a game that wants to stand with Duke, SW and Blood.

>>7298948
Precisely. IF could have been transmetropolitan as fuck, not even asking for Heavy metal magazine coomer.

Shelly is just nothing. It has amazing art and guns but it could have been more.

>> No.7298970

>>7298964
>Wait...you...you mean different people...THINK differently!?

Take your meds.

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7298972

>>7298957
naw fuck that
>>7298948
Keep doing what you're doing that shit hilarious lmao

>> No.7298976

>>7298970
Well at least in the other thread someone admitted her one liners are ass.

>> No.7298981

>>7298976
I said take your fucking meds Alf.

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>>7298964
>IF could have been transmetropolitan as fuck, not even asking for Heavy metal magazine coomer
I was reminded of that for the most part, it is a grimy low-tech future. Near the end it felt more like ninja turtles.

>> No.7298992

>>7298957
Is this green skelefaggot the equivalent of HLfags DWTerminator boogeyman? Desperately trying to make any legit criticism of their game go away by simply claiming that you are the boogeyman? Didn't the green skelefaggot try to get the game cancelled over typical SJW offended over nothing nonsense? People like that wouldn't lament the fact that Shelly didn't get her earlier vastly superior 90s design, they would rejoice because they find sexy scantily clad women to be offensive and highly problematic.

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7298993

>>7298976
Oh dude some are total ass, but the shotgun? The flame dual-smgs? Clusterpuck's alt fire? The way enemies come apart? mmmm!

>> No.7298997

>>7298981
I am not teh alf boogeyman.

But dont worry since ghostrunner was also boring as fuck. So its something in spirit of the times that makes everything so bland.

>>7298987

Yes but the focus is only on the maps. Shelly has nothing interesting to say about anything. The enemies as well.

>>7298993
That is not enough.

>> No.7299000

>>7298993
>Clusterpuck's alt fire?
Looks cool but is not that good at crowd control as it seems.

>> No.7299003

>>7298981
It's not Alf, he's too busy diddling his children.

>> No.7299004

Shut up faggot

>> No.7299005

>>7298992
Haha look at how mad he's getting.

Guys look, Skelefaggot is MAD. He's angry! He's upset! What a bitch, hahaha.

Cope.

>> No.7299008
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>>7298997
>That is not enough.
To each their my man. Oooh boy to each their own. I could fuck this shotgun.

>> No.7299009

>>7299008
But not shelly right.

>> No.7299012

>>7299009
No, she's a cartoon character.

>> No.7299018
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7299018

>>7299012
Indeed anon.

>> No.7299019

>>7299009
Oh buddy, I would rip her out of that uniform over some whiskey at my place.

>> No.7299020

>>7299008
It looks like a grenade launcher. I can never stand it when weapons in games look like other weaponry, it fucks with me and also makes the think the developers are retarded.

>> No.7299024
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7299024

>>7298997
>Shelly has nothing interesting to say about anything.
That's fine. They focus on her interactions with the main big bad baldie.
>The enemies as well.
Like, they should say more? I'd agree with that, otherwise they're fun to fight.

>> No.7299025
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7299025

>>7298795
Shelly reminds me of this

>> No.7299028
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7299028

>>7299018
Its just sad. Sad as fuck.

>> No.7299029
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7299029

>>7299019
Forgot pic related is her seeing my dick
>>7299020
Can't agree my man.

>> No.7299031

>>7299020
But it is also a grenade launcher

>> No.7299041

>>7299020
Maybe you haven't played enough videogames to get bored of seeing the same designs over and over. New/weird/surprising designs and fresh and fun.

>> No.7299043

>Defending the garbage old look from the shittiest game ever made
IF shelly is superior

Bombshell should be erased from history

>> No.7299045
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7299045

There. Shelly fixed.

>> No.7299051

>>7299028
She looks like a generic police NPC. Just lazily copy paste any pics of Duke Nukem, Caleb and Lo Wang next to her and it becomes even more excruciatingly obvious how bland and soulless her design is. There is nothing unique about her at all, nothing sticks out, not even the slightest sign of individuality or character.

>> No.7299054

>>7299020
It's also a grenade launch my man.

>> No.7299056

>>7299051
Somebody ruined her drink I guess.

>> No.7299058 [SPOILER] 
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7299058

>Caring about your female protags dressup and accessories
You know there is a perfect game for you.

>> No.7299062

good god why is this thread so shit now

>> No.7299065
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7299065

>>7299043
nah

>> No.7299067

>>7299045
This is exactly what she should have been, Judge Dredd with tits and one liners based on her being a police officer. Such an obvious excellent idea and they completely dropped the ball. What a missed opportunity.

>> No.7299068

>>7299062
Pederast threw a fit because he didn't make the thread.

>> No.7299070

>>7299065
>Dontcha just love chicks with guns

holy shit I can SMELL the incel coming off this image

>> No.7299072

>>7299067
I know right?
Female Dredd in skintight suit. Perfect.

>> No.7299073
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>>7299062
Ion Fury shitfest, people are adamantly upset with her design

>> No.7299075
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7299075

>Why yes, I did just throw away hours of my life arguing about tits in a videogame.
>Do I regret it?
>Absolutely
>Will I do it again tomorrow?
>Of course

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7299076

>>7299067
Whatever you say my Polly Pocket-ass nigga

>> No.7299079

>>7299067
>Judge Dredd with tits

My boner cannot be contained with this thought in my mind.

>> No.7299081

>>7299062
Because Green Skeleton the faggot and Alf and his discord friends decided to shit since the previous thread with IF Baits.
Also alf throwing a fit because i did the thread earlier on and cut his fag wings by restoring the OP paste and Retro FPS title.

its tiresome

>> No.7299083

>>7299075
Of course.

When you love something you must be able to call out its faults. Or else fags take over.

>> No.7299086

I don't need to cum to everything I play.

>> No.7299085

>>7299075
>implying I don't play Runescape while posting on here

If you seriously wait for threads to refresh you have a genuine addiction and need to fix it.

>> No.7299089

>>7299083
>When you love something you must be able to call out its faults. Or else fags take over.

Imagine caring this much about how a fucking character in a videogame looks.

>> No.7299090

Janitors could you guys PLEASE do mankind a favor and rangeban Green Skeleton?? and possibly Alf? because 1st one is literally evading his rangeban from /v/

>> No.7299092
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7299092

>>7299081
Again I am not Alf. As proof I will now go play some Doom and come back later.

>>7299089
Yeah imagine anon. Just imagine. whatever man.

>> No.7299093

>>7299089
Bizarro world Sarkeesian

>> No.7299094

>>7299086
Neither do I, but ladies with personality and looks are better than ones without.

>> No.7299095
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7299095

>>7299089
>firstperson videogame
I'm fairly indifferent to her but I'm just glad she's not ending up like that Visceracringefest chick

>> No.7299097
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7299097

>>7299092
Have fun with HNTR

>> No.7299102

>>7299089
>hurr durr why do you care

I hate seeing faggots say this shit on here in any context, in any argument. We are on a board discussing shit, of course we fucking care, if you don't then fuck off you nihilistic nigger.

>> No.7299104

Hey guys just here to say you're all losers. Now give me some (you)s in order to prove you care

>> No.7299106

>>7299097
>HNTR

The fuck is HNTR?

>> No.7299108

>>7298745
If only IF was as soulful as GITS manga.

>> No.7299109

>>7299102
>spending 1/4 of a thread whining over a tertiary detail in a game nobody has played
>bro who cares
>HURR DURR PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BITCH ABOUT ANYTHING
Next thread lets argue about the stray pixel on the SSG in Doom 2

>> No.7299113

>>7299109
>Next thread lets argue about the stray pixel on the SSG in Doom 2

Sure why not.

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>>7299106
and there it is.

>> No.7299116

>>7299109
Yes, because Shelly's design and personality are exactly the same in terms of scope as a single pixel on the SSG.

You are an actual child.

>> No.7299117

>>7299085
You should be playing uo.

>> No.7299119

>>7299113
How.. nihilistic.

>> No.7299123

>>7299106
HNTR-ese nuts

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>>7299102
So I saw an ant walking by on the sidewalk the other day and I was pissed the fuck off. I spent several hours yelling into the air at how angry I was. Someone asked why I cared and I then proceeded to rant for another 12 hours about how not caring is stupid and getting angry over tiny inconsequential things is the more mature response.

>> No.7299126

>>7299117
UO?

>> No.7299127

>>7299116
That's pretty autistic of you. Just sayin.

>> No.7299128
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7299128

>>7299086
I play games to be entertained and experience enjoyment. Ugly women do not entertain me nor do I experience enjoyment looking at them. I like scantily clad sexy women and guns. Combining the two results in me being entertained and experiencing enjoyment thus I like and prefer when the media I consume has these elements.

>> No.7299129

>>7299097
In fact I am going to try Trenchfoot. That's it.

>> No.7299132

>>7299126
UO me a coke.

>> No.7299135

>>7299128
I dont care about scantily clad. It's a plus if well done, but not my issue with IF.

>> No.7299139

>>7299124
>my stance is reasonable
>yours is not and is immature

Suck start a shotgun.

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>>7299128
Nigga u gay?

>> No.7299142

>>7299124
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/cgi-bin/uy/webpages.cgi?/logicalfallacies/Appeal-to-Extremes

>> No.7299147

>>7299124
If I want to spend a year yelling at that fucking ant, I will. It's my ant to yell at faggot.

>> No.7299149

>>7299128
>I want to be the sexy girl
Ok lol

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7299151

>>7299139
Its called being an adult. I feed my ego preying on kids like you

>> No.7299157

>>7299151
Normal rational adults usually don't hang around playing with little boys, anon.

>> No.7299158

>>7299151
>I feed my ego by acting like a sped online

What?

>> No.7299159

>>7299128
I dont like how she looks in Alien Armageddon as well. But I guess Shelly could use some more mechanics. Cloth ripping as she loses health I propose.

Also tits and abs like that deviant art.

>> No.7299162

>>7299159
>I MUST COOM THIS GAME IS SHIT BECAUSE I CANT EJACULATE ON HER TITS REEEEE COOM REEEE

>> No.7299164

>>7299162
Yes?

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>>7299128
I wasn't expecting anything and wasn't shoved anything horribly obnxious so I'll take her milqutoast take for what it is.
I also find it weird wanting to put so much emphasis on wanting to play a hot chick you don't even see in third person, like is it simply knowing that she's a bimbo that's important or is it some other weird fantasy?

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>>7299157
Little boys shouldn't hang around playing with adults

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>>7299109

>> No.7299174

>>7299169
Maybe the adults shouldn't be at the playground in the first place.

>> No.7299176

>>7299142
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-fallacy-fallacy
Checkmate.

Exaggeration is a common technique in neurotypical conversation that is typically employed to express a point with great emphasis. Individuals with Asperger Syndrome or functional ASD often have difficulty identifying applicable exaggeration, and often lose focus on the topic at hand as a result.

>> No.7299180

>>7299171
This is great. I never noticed that.

Well time for trenchfoot.

>>7299167
Is that ophelia?

I dont know in the end. Shelly could have used some remix. Maybe some modder will do it.

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>>7299180
>Is that ophelia?
I think so

>> No.7299193

>>7299167
>being attracted to women is a weird fantasy

Fag.

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>>7299174
As long as you admit this board is for immature children using boogiemen like DWterminator to invalidate legitimate criticism

>> No.7299202

>>7299167
Jesus christ. Blood was like this close to becoming some mallgoth vampirefreaks.com shit, wasn't it?

>> No.7299208

Dude zoomers are fucking psychopaths holy shit

>> No.7299210
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7299210

daily reminder that LCA sucks cock

>> No.7299213

>>7299208
the genuinely are, growing up in a society where mommy and daddy leave you alone on the internet all day will do that

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>>7299208
The only people arguing in this thread are over 30

>> No.7299216

>>7299215
Shitter shattered never fails to get a laugh out of me.

>> No.7299220

>>7299126
Ultima Online.
But I shouldn't have said anything. Forgot what thread I was in

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7299225

>>7299193
>being attracted to women is a weird fantasy
That would be the
>simply knowing that she's a bimbo
part of my post you're referring to then?
I guess I'd care more if it was a girl I was being exposed to visually the whole game.

>> No.7299227

doomworld is cool :)

>> No.7299228

>>7299225
>simply knowing that she's a bimbo
Thinking about it, I guess I neglected playing in third person and the mirrors

>> No.7299230

>>7299227
It's alright, they tend to stay on-topic over there. The WHUTS UR FAVORIT X threads are annoying though. Hearing people seethe and cry culture war over bans is also a treat.

>> No.7299240

>>7299230
when did they get rid of post-hell again? i miss that subforum so much

>> No.7299247

>>7299167
>I also find it weird wanting to put so much emphasis on wanting to play a hot chick you don't even see
Mirrors as well as cutscenes where she is both sexy and badass with a great sense of humor.

>> No.7299259

>>7299247
Yea but...you play as her. You get that right? Is this about you wanting to pretend to be a woman or something? It's weird, anon.

>> No.7299265

>>7299106
>DOOM THREAD
>don't know what HNTR is

>> No.7299270

>>7299259
By this logic anyone that plays Ion Fury wants to be a woman. If the main character is female I don't have a choice thus I would prefer that she is sexy and very nice to look at.

>> No.7299285
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>>7299270
I prefer the more grounded and realistic appearance. It is first person so it is just a little thing to care about but it's still nice.

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7299294

>>7299270
Well Acktually... . Anyone playing any game defaults as neutral on the topic, it's throwing a fit about the details of a character you never see that gives way to some weird obsessive disorder or fetish.

>> No.7299301

>>7299285
You can't fool me that's just Van Helsing

>> No.7299329

To anyone who played it back in the day, what sorts of modes were most popular in Quake III when it first launched? Was dueling/competitive play always a small niche?

>> No.7299403

>>7299329
idk but heres a video about DeapMind AI playing capture the flag and beating pro players

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvFABFWPBrw&ab_channel=TwoMinutePapers

imagine getting 360 no-scoped by a terminator

>> No.7299425

Ultimate Doom > Doom II > Doom

>> No.7299428

>>7299225
Jesus fuck that is some gross fan art.

>> No.7299435

According to some ttlg poster Doom was a tech demo.

>> No.7299437
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7299437

>>7299428
I like it, and that's why I posted it

>> No.7299438

>>7299437
That one as well.

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>>7299438

>> No.7299447

Did they make him fun to fight?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPrzYRQ5Qw8

>> No.7299448

>>7299445
>A new artwork of zan came out a couple months ago featuring her knee knocker monster cock.
Blessed timeline

>> No.7299450

>>7299403

>near future
>multiplayer games are silently populated with advanced deepmind AI players
>devs tune AI agent difficulty based on player's ability for perfect match difficulties
>humans players cannot distinguish the difference
>rival devs from megaconglomerate publishers unleash their own "players" into the fold, tuned in such a way to cause as many AI-related feedback loops and taxing computational tasks in order to effectively DDOS other publisher's games, ruining the player's experience
>huge uptick in sales for these games as rival publishers all over and funneling money into eachother's games creating bot-accounts for these purposes, furthering demand for games of this type, continuing the cycle of this cyber proxy shadow war
>publishers develop countermeasures and mass-banning to stay competitive in the market, many human players are caught within these ban waves due to their "suspicious" behaviour in-game
>literally nobody plays multiplayer games any longer

>> No.7299452

>>7298663
how to start ??

>> No.7299453

>>7299448

No wonder the thread is shit. Futafags.

>> No.7299461

>>7299448
I'd be more upset with Hedon if Rekkr didn't also exist to blow it the fuck away, so as is everyone gets what they want.
>>7299453
I wonder if there's some weird crossover with the emphasis some want on their first-person shooter character being sexualized so much.

>> No.7299463

>>7299461
Maybe, Futa idiots are fucked in the head. Still Shelly is indeed kinda boring.

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7299469

>>7299453
>entire derail centered around heterosexual booba posting
>"this is the work of *specific group i disagree with*"
shut up bitch

>> No.7299470

>>7299469
>heterosexual

Are you for real?

>> No.7299471

>>7299469
Shelly a dude tho

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7299473

>>7299149

>> No.7299476

>>7299470
>>7299471
i hope the irony is not lost on you that you call these people brain-damaged but act just as crazy.

>> No.7299478

>>7299476
How is that ironic?

>> No.7299480

>>7299476
Shelly is still boring.

The conversation just weirdly devolved into, if you cant see the character it does not matter.

>> No.7299481

doomguy is boring

>> No.7299484

>>7299450
>cyber proxy shadow war
kek

>> No.7299485

>>7299481
But doomguy has arm hair and abs making him dead sexy.

>> No.7299493

>>7299481
Why do you care you cant see him.

>> No.7299497

>>7299493
you see his face the whole game nigger

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>> No.7299531

>>7299435
Just found that thread. They seem to be implying that the only reason Doom even still has a community is because of all the source ports and what you can do with them, and not for Doom itself. That when Duke 3D and Quake came out, Doom was already forgotten. They seem to be painfully unaware that Doom actually still had a big community between the releases of Duke 3D and the source code release almost two years later. And that even today, plenty of vanilla mapsets that are essentially the same mechanics as the iwads still get made.

I get that most of ttlg is people more into story-rich immersive sim games, so stuff like Doom might not be appealing to them, but come the fuck on.

>> No.7299552

>>7298663
I'm having a very weird issue with Zandronum that I don't understand.

My mouse seems to jump around sometimes. I'll move, look one way, and then after a couple seconds the camera will move on its own as if to correct something. I have Look spring turned off. This happens even in single player, so I know it's not a server issue. What could it be?

>> No.7299556

>>7299552
It goes without saying, but - this does not happen in any other doom port for me, nor in normal desktop use

The correction is not super drastic, but it is big enough to throw your aim off completely and it's rather annoying. Think about 20 degrees or so max

>> No.7299564

>>7298768
>Tell people who complain to go fuck themselves.
>"I'm not buying the game!"
>They weren't anyway.

>> No.7299580

>>7298831
The first one there I think would have been pretty good, though it would have been for naught if she was still going to be really dull personality-wise.

>> No.7299583

>>7299171
I don't care, fuck it, it's his thumb. Nobody tell me otherwise or I'll never be able to stop looking at it.
Fuck you.

>> No.7299585

One of these days I am going to win a game of Quake 3

>> No.7299603
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7299603

>Perpetual slow crusher damage
That's a bad ass name for a metal band

>> No.7299604

>>7299067
Actually, yeah, that would have been a lot better than both the final one, and all those goofy old sketches of her as a dominatrix and shit.

>> No.7299605

Trying to start a coop game in Crispy this happens
>Your wad directory does not match other players in the game
>Check that you have loaded the exact same wad files as other players
i don't get it

>> No.7299619

>>7299240
Around 2016

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7299627

>>7299485
Based and manpilled.

>> No.7299628
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7299628

Is using a crusher-activating-switch to kill players humping the starting wall for secrets kind of hilarious? or very?

>> No.7299629

>>7299067
>Judge Dredd with tits and one liners based on her being a police officer
Original the Character like FemShep but police and a potentially stern and unfun hardass? Compared to literally every other build protagonist?

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>>7299556
>>7299552
>>7298663
Here it is in video form. After nuking my zandy INI file so it was fresh. Turns out I don't even have to move to trigger the thing.

Anyone have any idea what's causing it?

>> No.7299653

>>7299629
Your post has a weird syntax that's hard for me to read.

>> No.7299654

>>7299649
(There's only 4 mouse movements here, the sudden jerky movements 2 seconds afterward are the problem)

>> No.7299656

https://youtu.be/wTzlwrdZPe0
>Broke: Performing fatalities on demons
>Woke: Roasting demons with fireballs from your fists

>> No.7299663

>>7299656
>Those horrible frame rate dips
I hope that was just a recording issue and not gameplay

>> No.7299668

>>7299653
A "Lady Dredd" would contrast poorly with how loose and snarky the other major build protagonists are, as bland as current Shelly is. Considering the context it's a fairly "damned if you do/don't" scenario.

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7299671

>>7299649
if you're on windows try turning off "enhance pointer precision" i know it fixes mouse issues in some ports

>> No.7299675

>>7299671
I'm not on windows, I'm on linux
Have not had any issues at all with other source ports, so I'm pretty weirded out

>> No.7299676

>>7299656
God, I really hate that soundtrack pack, all the music has the exact same instrumentation even when it shouldn't, so it all sounds way samey in tone.

>> No.7299682

>>7299240
About the time they changed forum software in 2017.
As fun as it was to read post-hell, I think part of why they removed it (technically, its just hidden from most users) is because some people were intentionally trying to make post-hell material with bait threads and the like.

>> No.7299686

How to reduce lag in multiplayer doom?

>> No.7299691

>>7299682
i remember how the terryfags were just spamming the forums at one point and seeing most of their threads in there, so that makes sense

>> No.7299710
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>>7299628
That's kind of lazy. I'd rather do something more sadistic, like something similar to the start of Barrels of Fun where the player has to outrun a sudden stream of exploding barrels. With that, you'll induce panic into the player and make them fight every temptation to press the use key from that point onward.

That's the kind of refined bullshit Romero would have done if he made Daikatana first before making Doom.

>> No.7299719

>>7299649
Hey stremer :)

>> No.7299725

>>7299719
henlo

>> No.7299736
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With ACS, should I be worried about the script limit or anything like that? I plan to have lots of small props which play voice lines when used, so I could end up accumulating many tiny scripts. I get neurotic about these things.

>> No.7299741

>>7299736
i mean there's actually no script limit pretty much if you use named scripts

>> No.7299751
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>>7299710
Daikatana (with fan patch that fixes bugs and removes AI companions) is actually super underrated and dare I say it, pretty fun.

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>>7299741
>i mean there's actually no script limit pretty much if you use named scripts
Oh, so I have nothing to worry about. Thanks, Anon.

>> No.7299784

>Final Doom the same year as Quake and Duke
What were they thinking?

>> No.7299790

>>7299784
Let's have some dudes hammer out a sick pack of levels as an expansion while we work on Quake?

>> No.7299817

>doot: forever has all of doom 1 and 2 in it
>not even remade or embedded just straight up iwads in the game's folders
cute, but why? I guess why not since if you just include the shareware levels as an easter egg might as well go all the way but I can't fathom a reason to play like that over any of the other options available

>> No.7299823

>entire thread is retards arguing over a shitty build game
What the fuck? Shit isn't even /vr/; do your fucking job jannies.

>> No.7299923

>>7298956
Two that I know of. One old and one newer.
Anyone wanna make an original Enterprise map? >>>/hr/3957840

>> No.7299958
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>Read this thread.
>Always preferred current Shelly over her past iterations.
I guess something is wrong with me as I just didn't had any issues with her while playing Ion Fury, but that's some special kind of retarded shitposting right here.
>>7298786
>>7298805
>>7298820
>all of this shit was planned by randy dickford
I can believe that. Not familiar with Duke community at all, so I'm curious if there's actually more to it.
>Also 3dr doesnt want to talk with dave oshry
Seems weird as I was pretty sure its the opposite with Realms Deep and all that stuff.
>>7298795
>>7298771
>Cute armored brunette with dated 90s references and some fun weapons.
This.

>> No.7299965

>>7299958
Based, Shellypilled.

>> No.7299983

>>7299029
>her seeing my dick
But then she says this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVj17XtxfQg

>> No.7300029

>>7299784
Short version, it was easy money.
Long version, the rate PC tech advanced in the 90's guaranteed that there would always be a market for lower specced DOS machines. I mean they were responsible for (at the time) the computer game equivalent of Abbey Road, how could it fail?

Also, didn't the mappers for both megawads get paid relatively little compared to what game devs usually got at the time?

>> No.7300032

>>7300029
>Also, didn't the mappers for both megawads get paid relatively little compared to what game devs usually got at the time?
That is scummy if that's true. I wonder if it was the same for Master Levels for Doom II.

>> No.7300038

Quake mapping/ericw tools question. How do you get the _lightmap_scale key to work?

>> No.7300052

>>7298748
>>7298718
>DUUDE make Tank Girl
it's fine the way it is. a gaudy fem-Duke would've been forgotten about just as quickly by people like you

>> No.7300068

>>7299502
Dwarf Fortress Doom

>> No.7300070

The only thing that's important is CDPR wasted all that time and money and goodwill to make a game that's worse than Ion Fury, or Doom, a game it's senior by 28 fucking years. And it unironically looks worse. The characters will look like PS2 characters in 10 years and the aesthetic is shit. The building interiors have less style than Shadowrun 2007.

>> No.7300076

>>7299656
>""plasma"" shells
>aside from the ooh glowy blue shit, appears functionally the same as any regular shotgun shell
?

>> No.7300086

What an amazing retro FPS thread, my favourite part was when everyone was talking about a game from 2019!

>> No.7300089

>>7300086
sup newfriend

>> No.7300098

>>7300076
I was wondering about that as well. Seems like bloat to me.

>> No.7300103

>>7300070
Cybergraf 2077

>> No.7300110

A friendly reminder:
dont pet the caco

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>>7300110

>> No.7300125

>>7300110
You're not the boss of me.

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>>7300110

>> No.7300140

>>7300136
You son of a bitch

>> No.7300141

>>7300136
motherfucker...

>> No.7300161

>>7300136
FUCKING HISSY HOGGER

>> No.7300186

Thank god we're back, now I can continue to not work on anything because I lack the motivation to learn how to do stuff and I'm also depressed.

>> No.7300191

>>7300186
What do you want to learn?

>> No.7300198

>>7300038
You're better off asking the celephais forums or discord to be desu. Most of the dudes here are versed in Doom mapping.

>> No.7300213

>>7300191
Friend has been trying to get a group of us together to learn how to map so we can make a mapset for shits and giggles but I just lack the motivation to bother with it even though I really want to join in.

>> No.7300230

>>7300136
Should have cum on it for a laugh.

>> No.7300238

>>7300213
Honestly I recommend just fucking around and getting a feel for it. You don't have to start mapping, but just fuck around. It helps.

>> No.7300246

>>7300186
Doom mapping is really easy. All you need is to draw squares.

>> No.7300257

>>7300186
>>7300213
Whaaat come on dude. Get over whatever the fuck is wrong and make some fun (digital) memories with your mates. I don't say that sarcastically.

>> No.7300294

>>7300161
that's not hissy

>> No.7300304
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Menus are pretty much done

>> No.7300342

>>7300304
This is great, nice work

>> No.7300368

>>7299656
Shit like this... I don't even find it entertaining, there's something about it that makes me simply glaze over like it's background noise.

>> No.7300381

>>7300304
Gonna be a sad day when you move on from modding, but I'll look forward to your standalone projects.

>> No.7300387

>>7300368
I think a big reason for it is the animations looking kind of floaty, and the really weak Brutal Doom style sound design. Doesn't help that the gore looks really flat too, with the unshaded blood pools and blood mist.

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Been playing this and so far it's pretty damn fun, thoughts on it?

>> No.7300401

>>7300304
If you don't mind me asking, how much of the update is left before it's ready for release?

>> No.7300402

>>7300401
Gotta finish up the blastmaster, which at this point it's the vent attacks and the other 6 weapons, brightmaps, and the monster tweaks, though no new art assets there, mainly just adjusting a few attacks and numbers.

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>>7298721
>>7298771
Pic related: "Bland outfit impossible to draw from memory."

Her appearance is so dull that your brain doesn't even bother committing it to memory.

I honestly don't know why they bothered keeping the name 'Bombshell' at all. She's not a bombshell. She's a plain Jane.

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7300413

I just finished Unreal for the first time. The guns and enemy types are really fun and the AI is great. The level design is semi-cryptic but not in an insurmountable amount. But I really had a hard time trying to keep going, because there didn't seem to be a point to anything. 849 just wakes up, starts shooting and there is no motivation for anything she does. It's not like Metroid where Samus has a mission. Hell, even in Doom the Doomguy slowly figures out that he's supposed to kill the mastermind of the invasion to stop it. 849 seems to just go around autistically blowing shit up in order to access the next area to destroy stuff in.

>> No.7300416

>>7300409
Sure man.

>> No.7300424

>>7300413
849 can't stay on the ship because it's falling apart, and skaarj have already infiltrated which she catches a glimpse of. They'll be back for her in due time. Upon leaving the Vortex Rikers, you can find the house with dead crewman, further letting you know that 849 cannot stay there. Going into the mining complex right beside the ship, you find brutes who want to kill you. It becomes a bit of "staying in one spot is sure death" for both finding food and staying out of trouble, but I will agree that maybe there could have been some dialogue with the nali at the bottom of the waterfall who pleads with you to help his people or something. 849 sort of falls into the savior role, which CAN be cool like Tal'Set in Turok Evolution, but here it's very much
>Hmm these ruins have lore about a chosen one, I guess that's me

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>>7300409
>designed by one man with no grasp of anatomy

>> No.7300445

>>7300424
And since it's been brought up, I fucking love Unreal. It's a shame I don't much time anymore because I'd love to do a playthrough with that mod that came out last year, Unreal Evolution, which is by the same guy behind Deus EX GMDX.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/unreal-evolution
But Unreal is ridiculously long. They don't make FPS campaigns like that anymore.

>> No.7300448

Why yes, I do have very fond memories of playing C&C Renegade.

>> No.7300450
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>>7300445
SOUL

>> No.7300460

>>7300413
play return to napali
and after that, operation napali

>> No.7300462

>>7300450
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0Oakxir-lQ
To the nth degree
>>7300460
Return to Na Pali is kinda eh. I couldn't finish it as a fan of the first game. Maybe I'll try again someday.

>> No.7300482

>>7300460
ONP is trash tho

>> No.7300492

>>7300389
I remember it having the Half Life problem of too many hit scan enemies.

>> No.7300497

>>7300430
I'm sorry, Yuffa.

>> No.7300502

>>7300413
>be prisoner on ship
>wake up
>guards are all dead or dying
>weird freaky alien fuckers everywhere
>ship is crashing
>escape
>land on weird alien planet
>find a gun
>wander around
>alien fuckers keep trying to kill me
>kill them
>find race of enslaved aliens
>feel bad for them
>start slaughtering the slavers

It's pretty organic IMO.

>> No.7300510

>>7300076
https://youtu.be/Y4m1wnZpKqo
It can kill pinkies with one hit, which normal shotgun shells can't do.

>> No.7300537

>>7298748
I thought she had a 70's muff first with pubes peaking out of the sides.

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>> No.7300565

>>7300562
Would make pinkies actually threatening. So iconic, so much like shooting a very big, very slow dog.

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I think it's been long enough since the last alpha, so here's what i've worked on so far:

https://amel.pw/trevie/Roams%20TC%20Alpha%20V5.5.pk3

R1M1 and R1M2 have seen some improvements, and the unfinished R1M3 is included as well.

The new player sprites are in there as well.

Cheers.

>> No.7300582

>>7298718
>>7298748
>>7298780
given that shelly is basically off-brand duke nukem who he himself is based on action heroes from the 80s & 90s the her current design works in the idea that it reflects the more "tacticool" look of modern action heroes from the 2000s onward.

that said as far as her early concept designs go i agree with >>7298762...
R63 duke nukem > pamela anderson as dominatrix tank girl

>> No.7300592

>>7300562
Now make them fast.

>> No.7300617

>>7298760
Twitter isn't reality, 3DR absolutely could have gone with some of the old designs and the only thing that would have happened is that a bunch of morons would have screeched about sexism on twitter regarding a game that they weren't going to buy in the first place.

>> No.7300619

>>7300617
yea, but they didn't. Cope.

>> No.7300623
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For me? It's Quake, Scourge of Armagon, and Dissolution of Eternity. Honorable mentions to Abyss of Pandemonium, and Travail, but especially Travail.

>> No.7300627

>>7300617
Instead, they went with the final design and it's just you screeching about it.
For two years.

>> No.7300637

>>7300619
>>cope
Fuck off with that stupid phrase you idiot. I don't even play Ion Fury, I prefer Duke 3D with the Alien Armageddon mod, or Shadow Warrior Redux when I want to play some build engine FPS.

I'm simply pointing out that too many people are convinced that socjus faggots have more power than said faggots actually have in reality.

>> No.7300638

>>7300623
Why Shamblers worship Jesus?

>> No.7300641

>>7300627
see>>7300637
Oh and this is the first time I ever posted about Ion Fury and it's character designs I think.

>> No.7300643

Does anyone know how to actually create an ANIMATED/SWITCHES lump? I can't figure this shit out.

>> No.7300649

>>7300510
But the Supershotgun could, I guess?

>> No.7300650

>>7300627
>>7300619
I don't think you laddies understood. Anon is merely stating that people give twitter far too much power for determining creativity, and that had 3DR gone through with a more risque Shelly design, the only people who would actually be upset are those people on twitter, and the world would have kept spinning.
>But they didn't do it
Yes yes, but anon isn't really talking about 3DR per se.

>> No.7300651

>>7299062
because you faggots can't accept that people don't like IF

>> No.7300654

In case anyone wants it, the last updated release of Wrath Aeon of Ruin ( was posted over at /v ): https://www.mediafire.com/file/j26gtl43d8tdul6/WRATH.zip/file

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>>7300638
There's a lot of cross imagery in Scourge. Makes the imagination go wild. I wonder if that Quake nu-id reboot is in the works, and what they'll do with that sort of stuff. Was Jesus a general of Quake, sent to bewitch the peoples of that time, only he was found out? Makes the imagination go wild.
>>7300654
I also reuploaded to account for the hotfix.

>> No.7300667

>>7300657
That is the one with the hotfix.
Someone should put it in the mega because I actually use my mediafire account.

>> No.7300668

Help me out lads. I'm looking for a flash game. In the mid 2000s, I remember seeing banner ads for it all over the place. I don't remember the name, maybe "SWAT Team" or something like that? All I remember is that one of the banner ads featured a pinky demon from Doom recolored green.

>> No.7300673

>>7300650
Yeah this, SJW tards on twitter are heavily over-estimated in their ability to stop problematic game designs, characters, art, etc from existing. I don't really care that much about Ion Fury one way or another, I may try it at some point though.

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>>7300667
Ah my mistake.

>> No.7300692

>>7300510
>roblox OOF sound effect
You can tell a Zoomer made this. But I shouldn't be shitty, it's nice to see kids playing around with modding and game design like this, even if it's not a concept that really appeals to me.

Shooting murder-hadoukens with your fists when zerked is a fun touch, though I wonder just how balanced that is (is there any hazards, a cost, a cooldown, a trade-off?), but then again, it's called Power Fantasy, so it's kind of fine to go balls to the walls like that. Mods like Russian Overkill and Guncaster are all about completely breaking gameplay balance, and people seem to like those.

>> No.7300694

Btw, tomorrow (18th january) the new Mega.nz rules will go into effect. Basically they will remove any mega account without any further investigation if they suspect illegal activity

>> No.7300696

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkaVlO_ih0A
it's time to groove!

>> No.7300703

>>7300565
Any monster is nonthreatening if used poorly. Look at the Cyberdemon, not much of a challenge in E2M8, but in E4M6 he's used as a pretty good blockade.

>> No.7300704

>>7300694
lol time to make a new account

>> No.7300705

>>7300694
Just upload all of /vr/ library into something else, like zippyshare.

>>7300704
do it and save ewverything

>> No.7300706

>>7300694
>Our service may automatically (without us viewing the file content) delete a file you upload, store, access or share where it determines that the file is an exact duplicate of a file already on our service (a process usually referred to as deduplication). In that case, the original file will be accessed by you and any other user and that file will be retained as long as any user has a right to access it under these terms. Any right of deletion that you exercise will not apply to a deduplicated file that is associated with another user.
This? Mediafire already does something similar. I'm not worried.

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Watch out fags, REAL Doom wife coming through

>> No.7300724

>>7300706
"We reserve the right to remove data alleged to be infringing without prior notice, at our sole discretion, and without liability to you. In appropriate circumstances, we will also terminate your account if we consider you to be a repeat infringer. Details of our designated copyright agent for notice of alleged copyright infringement are on our contacts page."

But yeah, realistically not much will change. However you will have those people that just want to bring down any sharing links for fun, so they report it to Mega

>> No.7300734

>>7300724
>However you will have those people that just want to bring down any sharing links for fun, so they report it to Mega
I think that's going to be the bulk of it. They don't want people to stop using their website, they're simply complying with changing laws.

>> No.7300739

Are there any good gui doom launchers on linux?

>> No.7300740

>>7300510
Neat, a Brutal Doom variant that you can play slaughtermaps with.

>> No.7300761

>>7298820
>22_deathgrip
oh yeah i know this dude in the new blood discord. he would send you irl gore if you ever pirated dusk and shit. guy was mentally ill
and would stalk you if you ever said amid or other retro shooters were bad. also had this "i'm right you're wrong fuck you" attitude. which is funny as fuck and would stand his ground no matter if the whole server was against him.

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>> No.7300783

Someone mentioned a really good Doom loader/profile tool in a previous thread but I already forgot what it is. Anyone remember?

>> No.7300787

>>7300783
ZDL?

>> No.7300798

>>7300787
ZDL's what I'm already using and it kind of bugs me. It doesn't remember folder settings and the profile system seems lackluster. The one I saw a screenshot of showed a whole list of saved custom settings

>> No.7300806

>>7300783
I don't know either, but i would recommend using Doom Launcher:

https://www.realm667.com/index.php/en/doom-launcher

>> No.7300810

>>7300798
Anon you make a profile and save the ZDL to your desktop and boom you have it instantly.

>> No.7300812

>>7300052
I agree. They could've given her a more solid personality though. Dukes physical design is just blond schwarzenegger, more or less. What makes him is the voice.
But Ion Fury is still good. Would play more.

>> No.7300817

>>7300812
Fucking finally. Who gives a shit about her uniform, it's the lines.

>> No.7300823

>>7300810
I don't want to save 40 icons to my desktop. ZDL is trash. The one someone posted earlier looked perfect. Fine, guess I'll be digging through the past week of threads.

>> No.7300835

>>7300413
>849 just wakes up, starts shooting and there is no motivation for anything she does
The player crash lands on an alien planet and is looking for a ship off.

>> No.7300846

>>7300637
COPE COPE COPE

LOOK GUYS IT HURTS HIM

COPE SEETHE DILATE COPE

Fuck off retard.

>> No.7300848

>>7300409
>gigantic dick
>her

I guess futa is how modern men try to assuage their mixed feeling about fags.

>> No.7300854

>>7299081
Nobody even knows what you are talking about you spastic retard. I'm sick of morons randomly bringing up random ass e-celebs out of fucking nowhere, as if everybody else spends their day staring at Youtube in a haze like some strung out ADHD addled loser.

>> No.7300856

>>7300413
Did you miss all the logs laying on the ground?

The journey the prisoner takes is pretty fucking awesome.

>> No.7300857

>>7300817
The problem is her voice should match the uniform, but then she'd have to make a bunch of police brutality jokes.
>*I* am the voilence inherit in the system!

I mean, she wouldn't HAVE to, but yeh. Her other personality traits are old movies (ofc) and drinking. So throw some of that in there. Redneck rampage let you get hammered.
I haven't beaten it yet, but it would be cool to go to Shelly's apartment to see posters on the wall, or something. They could've done some of that at edf headquarters too in the barracks.
Anyways. She's just shy of being a decent character. She just needs more.

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>>7300783
I use Doom Launcher.

>> No.7300864

>>7300857
They didn't do it because they are all fags. Shelly drinking?
How about taking a piss like Duke?


The game is devoid of fun. All the attention went to map making.

>> No.7300874

>>7300864
>Think again, asshole! One good spill deserves another...your blood, for my drink!
Also you can drink liquor but it hurts Shelly's health.

>> No.7300883

>>7300874
>Also you can drink liquor but it hurts Shelly's health.

That's a really stupid way of doing that. Redneck Rampage let you get health in exchange for fucked up aim, Dusk raised your armor value slightly from drinking but again, messed your aim up if you did it too quickly. Devs seem lame and lacking in creativity.

Also, it's Ion Maiden. I don't give a fuck what a shitty metal band's lawyer says otherwise.

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>>7300052
>a gaudy fem-Duke would've been forgotten

Then dont make her tank girl. Give her a unique design.

>>7300874
I still think her armor ripping would be cool. Maybe a skin tight suit and armor on top.

People call it booba, I call it positive sexiness, even girls enjoy.

>> No.7300886

>>7300884
I call it booba because I refuse to be shamed for finding women hot by fat dykes with neon hair.

>> No.7300889

>>7300864
>almost had a conversation going there
>better fuck it up like an asshole
Cool bro. Shelly should've taken a shit on camera. THAT would be personality!
Seriously, stop sperging out. I'm addressing a single topic within the game. Constantly dragging the conversation back to
>opinions
doesn't further a conversation. It's makes a shouting match. Only it's the internet so it makes a seething match I guess.

>> No.7300890

>>7300886
You maybe on to something here.

>> No.7300893

>>7300889
>being able to heal by using a toilet ala Duke, which would be extra fitting given this is also a Build engine game, is the same as wanting the character to take a shit on your face

Are you drunk?

>> No.7300895

>>7300889
>Shelly should've taken a shit on camera

How about off camera? Would be hot. A mini cutscene of her going to take a dump and piss while a enemy tries to ambush her and explodes because of a trap.

>> No.7300896

>>7300740
That could depend on the performance you'll get out of it though, if it's still using Mark's code as a base, it could chug pretty bad.

>> No.7300897

>>7300889
>Constantly dragging the conversation back to opinions doesn't further a conversation

That's all a conversation is you tremendous faggot. It only becomes a shouting match when your bitch ass gets so butthurt about differing opinions you have to passive aggressively greentext out how anally annihilated you are. Grow a spine.

>> No.7300898

>>7300883
>That's a really stupid way of doing that.
Anon she's a cop. They can't drink on the job. First they're fags for Shelly not drinking, now it's stupid that she drinks and gets hurt when she's a cop.
https://youtu.be/laifRuTVsJQ?t=32

>> No.7300902

>>7300893
He didn't heal by peeing, he healed by drinking water.
>>7300895
No thanks.

>>7300884
>I still think her armor ripping would be cool. Maybe a skin tight suit and armor on top.
>People call it booba, I call it positive sexiness, even girls enjoy.
I don't entirely disagree here either. Duke is hyper masculine, there's no reason she can't be hyper feminine.

>> No.7300905

>>7300389
>Requiem


The setting is amazing its full of soul. Industrial cyberpunk with paradise lost and divine comedy quotes in computers and grafitti.

Its jank as fuck, I would give a testicle for a remake.

>>7300902

Not hyper feminine per se. She seems a tomboy after all. But giving no fucks like Duke. Being hot without trying to be hot.

>> No.7300906

>>7300898
>your occupation causes your body to respond differently to alcohol

This is your brain on 4chan.

>> No.7300907

>>7300902
>there's no reason she can't be hyper feminine
There's a good reason - Trump lost, cope.

>> No.7300910

>>7300902
>He didn't heal by peeing

Boot up Douk right now, get a bit injured and use a toilet or urinal. Pissing heals 10 health and it's on a cooldown before you can do it again, not sure how long.

>> No.7300912

>>7300906
Cigarettes in the Metal Gear Solid series cause your health to go down. You're really gonna die on this hill aren't ya lol

>> No.7300915

>>7300907
>new IP

Fuck off retard.

>>7300912
Who was discussing MGS? I'm pointing out there are fun ways to implement alcohol as a game mechanic and that just having it hurt you is lame and lacking in creativity - plus ciggies in MGS serve a purpose, the smoke illuminates infrared lazers.

>> No.7300917

>>7300915
>I'm pointing out there are fun ways to implement alcohol as a game mechanic
And having it hurt a cop on the job is amusing to me. You're a little crazy, aren't ya? I hope you work it out.

>> No.7300920

>>7300482
filtered

>> No.7300924

>>7300897
Get mad about it.
>>7300905
>Not hyper feminine per se. She seems a tomboy after all. But giving no fucks like Duke.
Right. I realized that would be taken the wrong way after I hit post. The important thing is the character itself not having a solid base.

>> No.7300927

>>7300502
I think the story would work immensely better if there were even just a dozen voice lines from 849. Unreal 2's story is incredibly basic, like Super Mario basic, but it still works better because people actually say something sometimes.

>> No.7300934

where the hippity hoppity heck do I even get TNT.WAD from anymore
all I can find are chinese spyware versions of final_doom_not_a_virus_we_sware.exe

>> No.7300936

>>7300934
Whatever you do don't peruse the OP.

>> No.7300938

>>7300856
I read every log in the game. All of it is background storytelling for the world and its recent history. I know what they were trying to do, basically the System Shock style of storytelling. I just don't think it works as well in Unreal, and when used exclusively with no other forms.

>> No.7300943
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>>7300936
oh yeah

>> No.7300949

>>7300943
Cute cat. All is forgiven.

>> No.7300963

>>7300910
you are just making shit up at this point, cope

>> No.7300972

>>7300857
>The problem is her voice should match the uniform
The gameplay doesn’t match the uniform with the constant murdering and explosions, and with Baldie mentioning her disciplinary record near the end it reinforces her “give a fuck-less” take. Her current character is also consistent with the other three major build heroes (four if you’re all about your boy Leonard).

>> No.7300975

>>7300854
Heloo Green Skeleton, or shall we say Randy?

>> No.7300976

>>7300912
They also serve another gameplay purpose, and is integrated into snakes character. I don't recall what alcohol does in ion fury, but it wasn't as well integrated into the character. Just sorta half-in.
I'm hoping that when they make the expansion pack they can expand on her character a bit too is all. I'd like it to get better, and not just lament about what could've been. At the very least analyze it to not make the same mistake.

>> No.7300983

>>7300963
Nah he's right. It'll take you a second to boot up LA Meltdown, get hurt, and go to the theater restroom.

>> No.7300989

>>7300976
I dunno man I really have spent about as much time in my life caring about Shelly's character as I ever will. Prepare to be disappointed. I'll enjoy the new levels to shoot stuff in.

>> No.7300997

>>7300409
>Weak, virtually useless melee weapon primarily used as a glorified switch.
>Half of her weapons are useless.
So you didn't play Ion Fury.

>> No.7301001

>>7300963
Go play the game, you zoomer. Once every level, you can take a piss at a urinal or toilet and regain 10hp. You can piss multiple times, with some cooldown, but you only get the heal once per map.

>> No.7301009

>>7300920
I beat that shit several times, it's still trash.

>> No.7301021

>>7300997
I played it all the way through.

There is almost no reason to use anything other than the loverboy and the homing grenades for 99% of the game.

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>>7300963
Spewing the same played-out buzzwords does not make your statement valid.

>> No.7301041

>>7300938

Well it was in a way a real tech demo.

Its a neat game. I like how its just a voyage.

>> No.7301050

>>7300910
I just did, but then saw I wasted my time. You're right. I either never noticed, or forgot. Ya got me there.
I still think it plays into Duke better as a character, what with the masculinity and all. It's an expected "men are more crass, gotta piss like a racehorse" type thing. With women it feels like an amy schumer joke.
Could be funny more as a callback to duke though. I don't recall if the other build games have peeing mechanics... I never really got into blood, or shadow warrior.

>> No.7301053

>>7301021
Playing on wanton doesn't count, anon.

>> No.7301056

>>7301031
Ahhh, much better...

>> No.7301060

>>7301031
I love dukes pistol.

>> No.7301062

>>7301031
I'm talking about the base game, not mods.

>> No.7301064

>>7301060
Suddenly I remembered how as a child I drew pistols like a huge cube with tiny handle because I misunderstood perspective in Duke.

>> No.7301073
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7301073

What's the best way to play Blood? I hear Fresh Supply is sorta buggy and BloodGDX also has its fair share of weird shit.

>> No.7301074

>>7301064
To be fair it looks a little stupid.

>> No.7301076

>>7301073
BloodGDX

>> No.7301081

>>7301073
BloodGDX is the most accurate. NBlood is fine though.

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>>7301081
Soz, meant to say most accurate besides of course dosbox.

>> No.7301084

>>7301073
I don't think there's really a consensus between Nblood and GDX, every port suffers from one vantage point to another.

>> No.7301091

>>7301074
Stupid like a fox.
I'll take off-looking weapons over anything really. Guns are boring really.

>> No.7301105

>>7301050
>getting this incredibly pissed someone knew something you didn't

You are an actual child. Get that horrendous ego under control.

>> No.7301109 [DELETED] 

>>7300983
>>7301001
Not wasting my time on made up sus shit.

>>7301031
>implying validity of an argument matters at all on this festering dumpster of a site

It made you mad. I win. Dilate.

>> No.7301118 [DELETED] 

Im starting to notice that all of this forced shitposting is being made to deplete the thread fast so Alf and his fag friends may create a new one

>> No.7301128

>people are shitting up the thread arguing whether a game mechanic exists or not
>even though they could verify it within 2 minutes by just testing it out
>even though there is a webm posted ITT showing it exists
>no, I must not admit I was incorrect, my ego won't allow it!

The internet was a mistake.

>> No.7301130 [DELETED] 

>>7301128
Seethe harder boomer scum.

>> No.7301137

yo this thread sus as fuck no cap

>> No.7301141

I came here to talk Doom but it seema to have been overrun by autistic faggots. I mean... more than usual.

I appreciate some people might not like Ion Fury's grounded design for Shelly and would have preferred an over the top 90s comic book look.

But wow. Why is GreenSkellie so obssessed? He got banned from the IF Discord a year before release, spammed steam reviews, stirred the reeeesetera pot, and is shitting up /vr/ Doom threads. This has been going on for YEARS. I feel bad fpr the devs. I can't imagine getting harassed for years all because you drew Shelly as a brunette in a bullet proof vest instead of a blonde in a tank top

I'll come back once the retards have gone to sleep.

>> No.7301146

>>7301141
It has nothing to do with that. IF is not perfect and tons of people have issues with her.
I was the one posting pics of bombshell yesterday.
Dont mind the resident handicap here >>7301109 and here >>7301130

>> No.7301147

>>7301118
>twightlightzone.mp3

>> No.7301154

>>7301137
That's why I am going to make new thread at 490 posts, put N-word before news posts and post at least three transphobic remarks over the course of it. You have been warned.

>> No.7301156

>>7301146
Whatever you say, GreenSkellie. Do you jannies know you are ban evading right now?

>> No.7301157

>>7301156
Take pills.

>> No.7301158

>>7301156
I have no idea what you are talking about anon.

>> No.7301163

>>7301158
>>7301157
GreenSkellie, I'm ashamed of you. You should KNOW better than to ban evade! Tsk tsk tsk, the jannies will have to hear about this...

stop bitcing about Shelly and I will stop

>> No.7301167

>>7301158
>I have no idea about my own shitposting

Ok.

>> No.7301175

>>7301163
Call a doctor.

>> No.7301181

>>7300976
They wont expand. It will be as soulless. Looking at the people in realms deep they are all dickless and will play it safe.

But at least we get some more amazing build maps.

>> No.7301182

Hey, mods? You know you can like, BAN people who won't stop shitposting, right? You don't have to just stare at them and do nothing.

>> No.7301203

>>7301021
>There is almost no reason to use anything other than the loverboy and the homing grenades for 99% of the game.
>Electrifryer for objects, Mechsects and stun/attack someone who's got very close.
>I pretty much mained Disperser during my playthrough, switching to grenade launcher when needed armor/clear out enemies/deal with Diopedes, Vendigos and Brutes. Not to mention the quick swapping "feature" that can be abused on final boss, lol.
>Penetrator was very good against Mutants and their Armored version.
>Chain Gun is an easy pick against Skinjobs and bosses.
>Ion Bow for Deacons, bosses, enemies that are way too far or crowds on them in extreme situations.
>Clusterpuck's secondary fire is very useful to clear a packs of enemies + you can place it on the wall close to where enemies will spawn after you take a key or anything like that.
I really wonder if you played it on lower difficulties, as >>7301053 suspects. Every weapon was pretty useful for me on Maximum Fury and it's just odd to see someone say "You only need Loverboy and Bowling Bombs". They're very good, sure, but other weapons are just as helpful.

>> No.7301206

>>7301105
What about that post made you think I was pissed?

>> No.7301213

>>7301203
The loverboy saved me on max fury against he flying enemies.

But yeah the weapons look cool as fuck but there is not a whole lot of combat variety.
I forgive that because it sounds and feels cool. Even if as I said some time before I dont really like the dying animations.

I hope the expansion gives shelly something more, in fact a sequel improves on her being so bland. Hoping it was a success enough for a sequel. Maybe even bring another original character I dont know.

>> No.7301218

>>7301181
Yeah, it's more of a "hope for the best, expect the worst" for me. I don't think shelly is horrible, just has all the corners and edges filed off.
The best route they could take is to use it as a base for character development. But yeh.

>> No.7301224

>>7301218
I would love a sequel in a quake like engine, or in the same universe\city. With the same attention to detail and SOF gore. Lets forget a bit about Shelly and bring some other character.

>> No.7301250

>>7301224
I’d like to keep seeing her, especially if it’s a sequel

>> No.7301278

>>7301213
>The loverboy saved me on max fury against he flying enemies.
Yeah, it's good for that too. I've primarily used its secondary fire, lol. I should've also mentioned Loverboy and Bombs specifically, but was too focused on describing other weapons.
>But yeah the weapons look cool as fuck but there is not a whole lot of combat variety.
Alright, to be fair I do understand when people talk about lack of variety in combat. It can get a bit stail since Ion Fury introduces most of its enemies rather quickly. Maybe I just had better time with it since I wanted to make use of any weapons. It always kind of annoyed me that I could've stick with only Super Shotgun or Ethereal Crossbow and ignore other weapons for like 99% of the time. Seeing DOOM Eternal gameplay afterwards only encouraged me giving all my weaponry the attention it deserves.
>I hope the expansion gives shelly something more, in fact a sequel improves on her being so bland. Hoping it was a success enough for a sequel. Maybe even bring another original character I dont know.
Of course there's always a room for improvement, but, as I said before (>>7299958), I enjoyed Shelly quite a lot in Ion Fury.
Perhaps that's because Ion Fury is a prequel to Bombshell. I didn't play it: only saw some bits on YouTube + LGR's review. And, damn... I think that might change your perspective on her IF version quite drastically.

>> No.7301283

>>7300623
Same. Is that hammer weapon actually useful? Every time I gave it a try it just ended up being really disappointing and that disappointment came at the cost of precious cell energy for the Thunderbolt so I stopped using it entirely and completely forgot about it. Also the only time I found a use for that new laser weapon was against the final boss, the reach of the Thunderbolt was short enough that the boss could wreck me really easy whereas with the laser I could attack it from afar and have plenty of time to dodge. I only ever used the proximity launcher when I hadn't found the Grenade Launcher yet. The alternate ammo in Dissolution of Eternity got used far more often since it was just the standard Quake weapons but more powerful.

>> No.7301297

>>7301278
>DOOM Eternal
Jesus fuck no dont turn it into something like DOOM Eternal. The gameplay loop in eternal is fucking garbage.

>> No.7301305

>>7301278
>I think that might change your perspective on her IF version quite drastically.


I know she is way worse. But does not excuse IF.

>> No.7301341

>>7301305
Perspective can go a long way: She’s pt as obnoxious as she was in Bombshell so this is a sign of improvement. When cast against other female protaganists of other shooters lately (Nightmare Reaper, Viscerafest) she’s a fine middleground. She’s also entirely consistent with the other build heroes for better and worse, they thankfully don’t set very high standards.
Ultimately her impact on the game is minimal.

>> No.7301424

>>7299445
Why does Caleb got milk and not blood?

>> No.7301437

>>7301424
milk is skeleton blood
its spookier

>> No.7301442

>>7299445
>No Bitterman with adrenaline bottle full of Stroyent Absinthe, Kyle with tatooine beer, and Samus with orange juice


>>7301424
>>7301437
Plot twist Its Milk because its Cow Juice

>> No.7301445

>>7298894
You guys are shitting on someone else, I didn't even make this thread and haven't posted in it till now. I told you all I'd be making less threads and posting less because of a project at work for next few months. True schizos.

>> No.7301447
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>>7301305
Fair enough. Still is an improvement though. Although I'm not exactly a fan of her Bombshell design, I got to admit that sometimes she looks cute there.
I didn't want to contribute into this coomer shitposting, but here I am. Damn it.
>>7301224
Here's my boring idea I've created after a few minutes:
>You play as a male mercenary in Ion Fury (before it though) world that just goes around the world and does shit for money.
>In intro/tutorial/demo, he gets ambushed by GDF and Shelly. Ends up getting BTFO by her, but barely survives.
>Saved by his current employer and/or Heskel and his enhancements. Later asks him for a favor in the future.
>Some game mechanics and/or power-ups could be explains by protagonist being a cyborg.
>Games goes on as you complete a new contracts around the world (I don't have any specific ideas, but I'm sure there's a lot of creativity and potential here) in each episode.
>Secret epilogue unlocks after you beat the game in 100% and/or highest difficulty.
>After the events of Ion Fury Heskel contacts you and asks to return the favor.
>He's barely alive and wants to stay low for awhile, making sure nobody would find him.
>You're sent to Heskel's institute to destroy it, therefore causing The Washington Incident.
As much I'm not a fan of retcons, this can potentially lead either into the Bombshell or "Motherflakker" that will complete ignore it and go in its own direction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X87QP28JNIA&t=778
I mean, 3DRealms did hinted that this game has a chance to be developed.
https://twitter.com/3drealms/status/1241464127480123399

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>>7301442
in fact, nvm, bitterman's million dead strogg smug would break the pic

>> No.7301493

>>7301472
What the fuck is wrong with his head anyway?

>> No.7301514

>>7301493
He became the 1st Male Asari

>> No.7301523

>>7301493
Lore from Quake 3 implies he was captured and experimented on for an unknown amount of time by the Strogg.

>> No.7301532
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>> No.7301539

>>7301532
Humpty dumpty looking motherfucker with that head.

>> No.7301543

>>7300694
what's a good alternative to mega?
is https://gofile.io/welcome a good alternative?

>> No.7301549

>>7300706
isn't that similar to tumblr's porn ban, where they used bots to judge everything?
you guys understimate how retarded tech giants and sillicon valley can be

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>>7301539
All Q2 male heads are like that.

>> No.7301558

>>7301532
I never understood why they didn't paint that red splotch on the forehead of the skin out when they put it on the Q2 model. It looks like a rose colored birthmark or something

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>>7301532
>>7301553
>gay blue cross
Glad the based Xbox 360 port doesn't have that

>> No.7301569

>>7301553
I never understood that thick metal collar type thing on their armor in Quake 2. What even is that? Is a giant helmet supposed to mount there? Is it thick reinforced steel functioning similar to a roll cage in a race car so their neck/chest can't be crushed?

>> No.7301579
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>>7301558
its more of a head injury from the crash landing

>>7301561
Glad i made a upscaled one
also the red mesh is from a v_flamer model from the quake 2 AVP mod

>> No.7301580

>>7301181
>Looking at the people in realms deep they are all dickless and will play it safe.

They're also bankrolled by 3D Realms, so even if there is someone there with balls, it doesn't matter because will tell them 'no'.

>> No.7301587

>>7301569
>Is it thick reinforced steel functioning similar to a roll cage in a race car so their neck/chest can't be crushed?

That would actually be a pretty cool idea.

>> No.7301598

>>7301579
It's not communicated well if that is what is, it should just be removed.
>>7301587
Well it would be heavy as FUCK but aren't the grunts in Q2 already genetic freak super soldiers? So I assume the weight wouldn't be an issue.

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My mission begins here.

>> No.7301625
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>>7301569
I think it's just a product of the extreme 90s aesthetic. The giant metal collar with questionable function always seemed very Liefeldian to me, as does the Grunts whole design.

>> No.7301634
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>>7301613
Based as fuck, LETS GOOOOOOOO

>> No.7301643
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>>7301569
Sounds plausible. Historically, the heaviest helmets would put their weight onto shoulders, not neck. Visibility was a problem, but future technologies can solve it.

>> No.7301653

>>7301643
Kind of surprised no one has made a helmeted version skin

>> No.7301667

>>7301625
Is Cables right hand holding his belt buckle? I always assumed he was holding the gun with both hands in this but now that I look his right hand is no where near near the gun. Also he has two or three fingers inside the trigger guard

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>>7301598
Q2 had to re use trent's voice from Q1 and edit with random pitches, which made male marine grunts sound like monsters
Q2 Female doesnt sound too female

plus if it was i, my 1st change would be
>Give stock Male Q3A Grunt sounds
>Give stock Female Q3A Major/Daemia Sounds
>Give Bitterman his Q3A sound
>Give Athena her QC sounds

>>7301653
if adonfag was here, he would had done one, but if i remember well Gloom has one.
also female armor is different and lacks it, though it has shoulderplates.
Even QC Lore model for athena has the same

>> No.7301679

>>7301283
>Kills Zombies unlike the axe (IIRC no cells are used on direct hit)
And thats pretty much it

>> No.7301684

>>7301678
I guess the women were too physically weak for based metal collars

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>>7301684
but it gave this kino skin

>> No.7301694

>>7301691
It's a good skin

>> No.7301720

>>7301447
>coomer shitposting

Anon dont be so tense. Its a fucking videogame.

Actually her visual looks are the least of my worries all dialogue even the bald guy is fucking shit.

>> No.7301724

>>7301691
Is that VDV?

>> No.7301735

>>7301447
Also how about forgetting retcons or any of that bullshit.

In fact why is even IF a prequel? A prequel to trash? Who the fuck is directing these studios.

That techno cop looks cool as fuck.

>> No.7301748

>>7301543
>There is no limit, you download at the maximum speed of your connection and everything is free. I finance the infrastructure myself.
If it ain't Lawd Jeezas himself, sounds good though

>> No.7301754

>>7301724
Its Oblivion's 1st map

>> No.7301770

>>7301754
Nah, I'm talking about skin.

>> No.7301786

>>7301720
Yeah I could care less how she looks, not like I play in third person. But those voice lines are shit and cringe and there aren't enough either, so I turn them off.

>> No.7301812

>>7300592
So the Armaggedon pinky from DRLA?

>> No.7301816

>>7301770
that is the pirate skin pack
https://www.darkfiberquake.com/download/quake-2-skins-pack/#page-content

>> No.7301840

>>7301748
from what i heard, every download has a 10 limit if nobody downloads it or something
donating makes it permanent

>> No.7301843

>>7301543
Perhaps it is. There's also anonfiles and tor network storage sites.

>> No.7301853

>>7301720
>Anon dont be so tense. Its a fucking videogame.
I guess you're right. It's just that there're better things to talk about than a character's design in a FPS game.
>>7301735
>In fact why is even IF a prequel? A prequel to trash? Who the fuck is directing these studios.
Because that's what 3DRealms stated pretty much since the beginning, I believe. They even offered a Preview Campaign as a bonus for Deluxe Edition of Bombshell before it even got its original name (they just called it "The Washington Project").
>>7301786
>Yeah I could care less how she looks, not like I play in third person.
To be fair, I suppose it matters more with Bombshell, but that would be completely off-topic as that game is not an FPS.

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I will make the new thread at page 7. Pinky promise I'm not Alf.

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>>7301858
Do it

>> No.7301865

>>7300696
Marathon has an underrated soundtrack. Even when it's goofy it's fun

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>>7301862
You'll wait, right anon?

>> No.7301879

>>7301853
>It's just that there're better things to talk about than a character's design in a FPS game.

Are there?

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Why are corpses like this?

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>>7301862
also this grunt art from planetquake is very ken ishikawa's based art

>> No.7301925

>>7301858
OH NO I MISSED POST 490

Don't worry, still gonna post N-word and transphobic remarks.

>> No.7301931

>>7301925
get the op, last thread link and news post right, then

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>>7301931
fuck you dude now i gotta post it

>> No.7301939

>>7301934
Will you do the N-word?

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>>7301935

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>>7300717
>You will never have a beer-chugging amazonian demon punchgirl accompany you on your adventures
Why live, bros?

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Another thread has died because of pointless trannybashing - just let them kill themselves eventually due to lack of unwarannted attention

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>>7302353
I miss that little 2017-19 period of the thread pumping out magical lewd/waifu material(and straight up porn)

>> No.7302636

>>7298894
>REEEEEE ALF CHANGED THE TEXT IN THE COPYPASTA OP FROM RETRO TO 90S BECAUSE MUH GOLDEN AGE
>post links to desuarchive showing I used retro in the OP many times as recently as Jan 3 >>7297275
>no reply
>HEH HE ADDED IN BACK IN SO HE COULD SHIT ON HL 2
Legitimate schizo. You're obsessed. And I didn't make OP.

>> No.7303134

>>7302481
I don't. There were a ton of good mapsets and mods that got no attention because of coomer bait. With very few exceptions that coomer bait wasn't even good either.
Also, Terminus, COSMIC TIDES FUCKING WHEN YOU FAGGOT IT'S BEEN YEARS.

>> No.7303821

>>7303134
>There were a ton of good mapsets and mods that got no attention because of coomer bait.
Like what?

>> No.7303973

>>7300409
Why do the weapon sprites in Hedon look like 2d renders of 3d representations made with extremely low polycounts as a technical compromise? Sprites should only be limited by resolution, animation frames and color palettes. There's no reason for them to look like three-poly-origami.