/vr/ - Retro Games

It is. N64 was a mistake.

>>7292110
It is, yeah

These are the best games.

>>7292110
No

>>7292110
Nah. All it did was iterate on concepts introduced by the NES. It took the easy route and produced good but not extraordinary games.
>>7292145
All of those games would get far better sequels on later hardware.

>>7292110
Absolutely. Peak kino.

>>7292110
the ps2 is, not only for its catalogue but its backward compatibility with the psx. It was just too complete when you take that into account.

I would place snes right after though.

>>7292145
Mario Kart and World Warrior are good but the rest of your list can fuck right off.

>>7292110
Yes, SNES is impeccable. It's AT LEAST top 3 consoles of all time, but I would call it the best.

>>7292110
It's not as good as the Megadrive. Not even as good as the PCE and the Amiga. It's a shit console with a few decent but highly overrated games.

>>7292185
This, but with the PS1 in second place and the SNES in third. Even at their absolute best, Nintendo can't hope to live up to Sony.

>>7292110
Yes.

>>7292145
>No MMX or X2

>>7292145
every single one of these games' sequels on latter and even previous consoles are way better

>>7292110
doesn't even beat the nes

>>7292110
Don't know about best, but it's certainly my favourite.

>>7292110
Obvious bait but NO. God no. The highly bottlenecked and terribly designed SNES hardware was simply incapable of many kinds of games, it was completely outclassed in virtually every genre by other 16-bit hardware. It runs at a mere 1/3rd the speed of all it's competitors, including the Mega Drive, PC Engine, and even the Amiga, despite all predating it by years. It's easily the bottom tier of all the non-meme 16-bit options, easily far worse in terms of game libraries than the Mega Drive, PC Engine, Neo Geo, and if we're including computers, the X68000 and Amiga. It has exactly 0% chance of being the best because it is not even good.
>>7292145
>muh MARIO
>muh ZELDA
Nintendrones truly have nothing else to play. Castlevania is vastly better on the Mega Drive, PC Engine, and X68000, Street Fighter is vastly better on the Mega Drive, PC Engine, and X68000, and Bomberman is vastly better on the Mega Drive, PC Engine, X68000, and even the Amiga.

>>7292110
Speaking of, found a real SNES classic at half priced books for 25 bucks. Don’t think I’ve ever snatched up anything quicker. Thought about reselling it, but it’s the only thing that emulates Star Fox and Star Fox 2 well.

SNES was godly for its time. Most of its best games became obsolete by their sequels except for Super Metroid and megaman x. Still a great console though, it was the curtain call for spritework on home consoles.

>>7292768
>Yeah,it had the catalogue but it doesn't have Blast Processing!!!

>See new SNES thread
>Check it out to see if Auskoon is chimping out

Was not disappointed.

I have the SNES Mini, is it good enough? Would you suggest I get rid of my old hardware? This board seems to hate the Super NT so I’m not sure what I should do with the original hardware

>>7293116
If you don't play shit for children, that is, Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Donkey Kong, then no, it absolutely does not have the catalogue. Just like all the Nintendo cultist's consoles, the shit SNES relies nearly exclusively on those overrated and ultimately quite poor Nintendo IPs. The only difference is it also has a lot of shitty JRPGs by Square, games which would be far surpassed and truly come to maturity by their iterations on the PS1.

>>7292110
Yes. 4th gen itself was the best of all time. A perfection of the gen before it

>>7293143
The SNES mini emulation is fine unless you're an uber autist who needs the original hardware and CRT response times

>>7292185
For once a good opinion on this board

>>7292185
PS2 is fantastic. it's only problem is that it doesnt have nintendo games.

>>7292110
The snes and ps2 are the closest you can get to objectively best consoles, but there's still subjectivity involved with any form of judgement when it come to art.

>>7293150
>It doesn't have good games
>no, all those great games don't count
Go play Sonic 2 for the millionth time already segafag, surely thats an edgy game for grown kids, Sega ads say so!

It must suck when all you get are shoddy arcade ports that have no value except for 5 minute of flashy shit on the screen before being boring, so bad that you still have a chip on your shoulder about it

>>7292110
In my opinion nothing even comes close to it. Even now I find out hidden gems, like Marvelous.

The PS2 has a solid library, but I just don't really care for 3D games.

How can the Super Shitendo even compete?

>>7292175
>tfw the best game on the SNES literally has a character named Kino

>>7292768
I love Sega autism bait

>>7292768
>>7293150
https://hackaday.com/2015/11/06/winning-the-console-wars-an-in-depth-architectural-study/

>In the 68000, each instruction requires at least eight clock cycles to complete, whereas the 65C816 – like it’s younger 6502 brother – could execute an instruction every two or three clock cycles. This means the Sega could handle around 900,000 instructions per second, maximum. The SNES could compute around 1.7 Million instructions per second, despite it’s lower clock speed.

>Even though the Sega console has a faster clock, it performs fewer instructions per second.

>>7293570
very easily actually because Sonic sucks and remaking the same game over and over was Genesis entire gimmick

>>7293751
Categorically incorrect, easily disproven, and a massive cope for nintendrones.
http://oldwww.nvg.ntnu.no/amiga/MC680x0_Sections/mc68000timing.HTML
http://6502.org/tutorials/65c816opcodes.html
The 65C816 instructions that execute in 2 or 3 clock cycles are extremely basic actions, such as flipping a flag or switching processor modes. Actually useful instructions, such as moving data around or maths, requires instructions that take closer to 6 to 8 clocks. The 68000 could do maths and data pushing operations in as little as 4 clocks, typically slightly more. So no, the shit SNES is at exactly zero advantage here, it really is a mere 1/3rd the speed, practically speaking, of it's major competitor.

>>7294442
so much blast processing but still no good games, how sad

Soulless

>>7292110
Nah, the NES was.

Sega fans get so infuriated whenever the snes is mentioned or liked by anyone. You would think Nintendo burned their house and murdered their fucking family or something.

>>7293497
Nintendo games started being very "meh" after 5th gen anyways.

>>7294574
Nintendo put them (plus Commodore & Atari) out of business. The Segatard will never forgive them for that. But on the bright side, we get to enjoy watching Aus koon pretend he can code for the 68000.

>>7292768
>Street Fighter is vastly better on the Mega Drive
This has to be bait.

>>7294574
It killed their childish hopes and dreams of Sega ever becoming relevant again so in a way they did.

Do you know how expensive those shitty add ons for the genesis were? they probably nagged their parents to waste their money on useless garbage and then had to see snes kids being the happiest with some of the best games ever on the snes console.

The saturn costed 400$, FOUR.HUNDRED. DOLLARS for a shitty nogames console, while the n64 costed 250$ and the psx costed 300$. So imagine the rage and resentment of the stupid kid who could only pick one console for the entire gen and he chose the worst and most expensive one based on dumb brainwashing ad campaigns by sega. That kid is seething to this day, in denial of this existencial mistake, he deprived his own childhood and shitting on nintendo and the sonic is the only he can cope instead of accepting what he did and blame Sega for scamming him, not only with the addons, the saturn but then again with the dreamcast, a console that died within a single year.

>>7293570
Segas legacy is having to put their new games on their old competitors platform. What a fucking embarrassment.

>>7294602
the sound quality isnt great on the voice samples tho i much prefer the OST on FM, but it plays exactly the same as the SNES ports
and imo, the genny has the biggest advantage of all in that it has 6 face buttons

fuck using shoulder buttons for literally anything in a fighting gaem

>>7294609
And those games getting terrible reviews and be played mostly ironically by youtubers to laugh at how bad they are.

>>7294574
this isnt the 90s and were not on the playground
any sane faggot whos mind hasnt been consoomed by /v/-tire consolewar faggotry will tell you that both systems are fucking excellent
objectively the best generation vidya ever had

i prefer the genesis for its action games, fighters, and shmups. the SNES just couldnt push sprites fast enough, outside of standout titles like axelay
and i prefer the SNES for its J/ARPGs, as well as its exclusives like metroid/zelda/mario etc