/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7285574
But Final Fantasy IX IS a Final Fantasy

>>7285580
And Chrono Trigger is even better!

>>7285640
FF3 on SNES was better.

The best Final Fantasy (And jarpig for that matter) is FFT.

My friends and I use to call it Mods a Nigger when we were kids.

>>7285723
That's not a jarpig, it's a tacjarpee

>>7285662
FF3 was on the Famicom though

>>7285764
Nah that was EfuEfuSuri

>>7285574
I don't know why CTfags need to force themselves to project CT as a Final Fantasy game, why are you insecure?

>>7286304
Now try it without buzzwords FFboi

>>7286313
Why are you insecure? Mad that CT didn't become a franchise as successful as Final Fantasy?

>>7286324
Almost there, you got this champ

Correct.

>>7286331
stay mad :)

>>7286356
You can do this bro, there must be some non-conditioned muscle-memory reply material in there somewhere

Move.

>>7285723
FFT is super ovarrated and honestly a dull experience. I guess it was babies first SRPG and '''mature''' storyline so it gets a past with most people though.

>>7286420
Also, its surely safe to say, Delita did LITERALLY and unequivocally nothing wrong

>>7286420
The storyline is like 1% of why FFT is good and it's still better than any mainline FF's story, which is the comparison point of this thread, don't forget.

>>7286304
>>7286324
>>7286356
It's one of two games in Final Fantasy Chronicles, so it's probably an FF game.

I have to say, if Toriyama's godawful artstyle were actually legible in sprite form, Chrono Trigger would have dropped to a 8/10 from that alone.

>>7286449
Moe harder moeboy

>>7286441
>and it's still better than any mainline FF's story
>hey guys nobles are dicks and also it's all the actual fault of demons
lmao
Also the gameplay is trash since half the abilities don't work like they're supposed to, leveling is all over the place and balance is a joke.

>>7286454
Speak English

>>7286454

>>7286456
You forgot to compare it to a crudely oversimplified version of any other FF's story, which again, is the comparison point of this thread and I shouldn't have to remind you of this. It's obvious that the reason is your inability to admit being wrong though, don't worry.

>>7286304
>developed alongside FF7
>some ideas intended for FF7 made it into CT instead
>Kitase, Sakaguchi and Uematsu worked on it
>ATB
>boss theme sounds very similar to FF7's
>rereleased in a Final Fantasy compilation
>Masamune
>Lavos is basically Jenova
Yeah, it's an FF. In fact, it's the real FF7. The game actually called FF7 is really the 8th entry in the series.

>>7285574
You’re right, but you chose the wrong game

>>7286449
>Toriyama art style
>godawful
Take a huge whiff and clear your head, retard.

>>7286852
Oh, and I forgot it also had Biggs and Wedge.

>>7286905
>head only a third of the size Hackiyama draws it

>>7286456
thanks for posting this so everyone knows that you are a faggot

>>7285574
It would be Bravely Default if the groundhog day loop was handled better.

>>7286905
jesus

>>7286852
>Masamune
Eh that was a dumb thing they did in the English version; in the Japanese game it's Grandleon
Chrono's supposed to be the one who uses Japanese swords. Frog uses broadswords.

>>7286456
class is the real problem these days though. as for who is being represented by Lucavi, i'll leave you to figure that out

Best music coming through

>>7285574
Sometimes, the best Chrono triggers people.

>>7285574
will europeans hate it forever just because they couldn't' have it?

>>7287176
those look extremely generic and dull

deep

>>7285723
People often shit on jarpigs for being slow and grindy, yet you're sitting here saying that FFT is the best jarpig. It almost feels like you do not like jarpigs, and are taking a contrarian position that FFT is the best jarpig (or just trolling).

>>7285574
Xenogears a shit.

>>7287369
Possibly thanks to Clavell's Shogun (the miniseries, I mean), Japanese cultural wonders were being admired by some Westerners and "Masamune" just sounded grander as a term for "legendary sword" than "Grandleon" did, without having to reuse "Excalibur" for the thousandth trite time.

>>7287176
Artwork looks Amano-esque, here. Was Kato inspired by Amano?

>>7286334
Beat me to it

>>7288061
You mean extremely cool

>>7288085
Well it's not a jarpig, it's a tarpig (or sarpig if you prefer)

>>7285574
Masato Kato doesn't own and shouldn't own CT and is a hack.

>>7288801
Any rough sketch by a sufficiently skilled artist would resemble Amano's style.

>>7285574
Chrono Trigger started as Secret if Mana

Thats why theres so many similaritirs between chrono and marle.

>>7290398
Masato Kato doesnt own but should own CT because he is based

>>7289816
They look like shitty 90s VN characters, but I would still fuck proto-Lucca.

>>7288038
The Chad 600 AD theme vs the Brad 1000 AD theme

>>7286456
Dont forget it's also really easy to softlock yourself on the fight before Belius and the difficulty just shits the bed when you recruit Orlandu

>>7285574
Sometimes, OP isn't even a faggot.

>>7289816
no, i mean extremely generic and forgettable

>>7292368
Toriyama invented generic and forgettable

>>7293056
>Toriyama
>one of the most distinct and iconic artstyles of all time
>generic

>>7285574
This game was pure pic related's name.

>>7293056
>generic and forgetabble
>a style thats instantly recognizable as his no matter when and were you look at it
i actually laughed out loud because even a faggot with a hateboner for Toriyama can instantly recognize his stuff anywhere

>>7291670
Vs. the Wizard Pre-historic theme

>>7285734
For Masamune?

>>7288048
Why is the combat system so fucking complex? One of Chrono Trigger's massive strengths was the simplicity of its battle system. Who asked for all these fucking elements and grids and shit?

>>7293530
>>7293714
>muh style
>anyway here's another not-goku sameface

>>7285574
I can't take a game with Dragonballl character designs seriously

Imagine if they made it in 3D and you'd have to look at all the garbage designs how they were supposed to be

>>7285723
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>>7286441
Idk what was more addicting, playing the game or modding with the fftpatcher, either way my favorite RPG ever

>>7296489
In what universe are CT character's designs garbage, besides a deranged anti-Toriyama tranny's head?

>>7286852
God damn you're retarded.

This thread is everything terrible about /vr/ these days. Someone makes a stupid statement in some thread, gets called out for it so he goes and makes it a whole thread just to drum up drama and shitposts. What a sorry fucking state of things.

>>7285574
This is a game for Dragon Quest fans who want to try a Final Fantasy game. And Final Fantasy fans who want to try a Dragon Quest game.

>>7298562
it really is just one autist with a grudge isn't it ?

>>7300545
No a lot of people dislike his work. It has a distinct ugliness to it and all the characters look the same outside of hairstyle, which even then is mostly just spiky. I don't outright hate his art like some do but it's certainly not great.

>>7300471
What are you rambling about, schizoid?

>>7300549
>t. same autist with a grudge

>>7285574
Can't you just say, "Sometimes the best SquareSoft game isn't a Final Fantasy game." or something? They're not "The Final Fantasy Company", they've done lots of different shit.

>>7301489
But it is one. >>7286852
Also if it's not a Final Fantasy, then why does the Caves of Narshe (a prominent FF fansite) have a page for Chrono Trigger?

>>7300549
His style is immediately recognizable, which is more than can be said about 99% of not just cartoonists, but artists in general.

Best character theme coming through. Too bad zoomers ruined it by endlessly comparing it to that shitty unfunny old meme song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3-XY1bOGdY

>>7285574
Sometimes, the best Chrono isn't even Trigger

>>7301484
Not even the same guy, I don't hate his work but don't love it either.

>>7301602
Recognizable isn't the same as good.

>>7302024
for what killing the franchise?

>>7302162
Cross did well an was well received. SquareEnix killed the franchise.

I feel bad for Magus desu. Even when you have him in your party, the villagers in 600 AD don't change their dialogue when you talk to them. And in Robo's sidequest where he mentions all his friends, he names everyone except for Magus.
They did my boy dirty

>>7288038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lEelz0iUJo

>>7303017
It really was. I don't recall any hate for CC until many years later after it released. It is one of the most highly rated PS1 games ever. And that was back when reviewers were legit "gamers" who knew their shit.