/vr/ - Retro Games

Super mario advance

>>7292383

How the fuck is this retro? It isn't Halo or Call of Duty.

I don't like how they changed the sky color for SNES. It's meant to be purple in the original.

>>7292383
These are the only two versions that matter, the others are just copies of the NES version. That said, the SNES is the best, and unique.

>>7292472
Literally the dankest meemay I've ever seen, and you posted it right on time. You know what, kid? I'm impressed. Be looking for your invite to the secret oldfag board. You've earned it.

-J. Hammersticks

>>7292383
The original NES/Famicom version; no one except contrarians on the defensive about having been unable to realize how fucked up the brick physics are would claim otherwise.

>>7292419
The GBC color is cute but the cropped screen is kind of a disqualifying factor.

>>7292606
There's a romhack that fixes the physics bug in the SNES version, so it really just comes down to aesthetics.

>>7292436

>>7292472
Have you looked at the sky recently? It's pretty blue. You should be glad they fixed that mistake.

>>7293158
Well, OP asked for the superior version; having to play it as a fan-made-patched rom through emulation or a repro cart sort of makes its claim at the title a bit shaky.

Btw, though not many people realize it, the rom patch is actually an overfix. The brick "physics" applied are actually the ones from The Lost Levels, which are slightly different in certain situations.

>>7292383
Neither, Super Mario World is better

>>7293196
You of course mean Super Mario Bros. 3 The Biggest, Most Exciting MARIO BROS. Adventure Yet!

All Stars

>>7292419
the new features are nice but you cant see shit, lakitu levels are unplayable

>>7292383
The PAL NES version.

it runs 10% faster and is 200% more fun because of it.

>>7293158
I'd play this. The only reason to play the originals is the physics working correctly, because the SNES renditions DO look better and the edges of the screen in SMB3 will never not look fucked up on NES due to the scrolling method the game uses (which is a sacrifice it makes to also scroll vertically, so it's not fixable and was legitimately the best that could be done on the system).

The physics being wrong is the entire dealbreaker in All Stars.

>>7292383
Remake. Better graphics and sound.

>>7293310
lmao

>>7292383
snes once again proving its superiority

>>7292436
Man your life must be garbage and your brain disabled if you think this is worth commenting

>>7292383
Why not just play both?

>>7293476
Question is not which to play, but which is superior.

>>7292383
All stars. Don't be a contrarian anon, look at those screens. Like the difference between a stable and a castle.

>>7293494
Yup, a stable is an objectively useful edifice efficiently built around a function, while a castle is a bloated monument to overcompensation which a bunch of insecure fat people use to entrench themselves.

>>7293521
congratulations on your unironical autism anon

>>7292383
The clouds are fucking

>>7292383
Nes will always be better. The graphics don't fit in the all-stars version and you can't do the pirahna plant jump glitch. Pure shit, an assload if fuck. It's like getting butt fucked up the dick with rock candy made from salt. It's worse than Jews and niggers starting their own race and calling themselves newish. Its like getting ass raped by biden and mouth raped by trump. In short, it sucks.

>>7293165
Are you sure the game takes place on earth? I mean, where the fuck is the mushroom kingdom or yoshi's island?

>>7293557
In Morrowind, of course. There are mushrooms as big as houses. And is used as houses. In real life you have to eat "very special" mushrooms in order to get there.

>>7293561
Kek, so it's on nirn. I'll accept that answer, n'wah

>>7293531
I'm not sure what ironic autism is 2bh but sounds fun

>>7293476
well, i obviously do.

>>7293620
ironic autism is worrying about input lag a bit too much, unironic autism is a crippling mental illness

All Star for sure, I don't think I've touched the NES version since I first played the superior one

>>7293429
Here is a you for you

It's true though. PAL NES SMB1 runs 9% faster than the NTSC versions.

>>7293678
Before or after speeding it up to 60Hz? I assume after, because there's nothing fun about 50Hz flicker, and you need ultra-high frame rates for sample-and-hold motion quality to be tolerable, so non-flickering displays are also unacceptable.

>>7292383
____ / ________

>>7292383
SNES version has broken block physics, and the soundtrack remakes aren't particularly good. In fact, they're pretty weak. The overworld music has the main melody an octave lower which makes it sound much weaker (and makes the rhythm no longer driving to the same degree), changes the underground music to be identical to the SMB3 version instead of the original odd time signature version, and the remade castle music is just bad. And then on top of that Mario's sprite looks like a modern 16-bit version, only they kept his "old" palette...which just makes it all look wrong.

SMB3 is also pretty weak on SNES.

>>7292419
Based, anyone complaining about tiny screen got filtered.

When will the bricktism meme end?

>>7294662
This. In fact I ducttape off 33% of the tv screen if for some reason I have to play the console versions. Anybody who doesnt just cant play the game properly

>>7294674
Yeah, its pretty weird people are so adamant in denying something so blatant

>>7294589
>And then on top of that Mario's sprite looks like a modern 16-bit version, only they kept his "old" palette...which just makes it all look wrong.
I've always found this to be weird as shit, but I appreciate the fact that they stuck to the original sprite "colors" because it shows reverence towards the original graphic design. Something a lot of remakes don't have, including later Mario ones.

The soundtrack in All-Stars has problems but it's mostly based in the Starman and Underwater tracks being grating to listen to thanks to their changes. The Underground theme may be based on the wrong one but it sounds fucking great with perfect use of the soundfont. The Overworld theme is still excellent, it just goes lowkey at points which the original avoids. No clue at all what you're complaining about with the Castle music, it's ominous and sounds good. The addition of the Bowser music is something I could see a divide on, the normal Bowser track isn't too amazing and you generally aren't held up on Bowser long enough for much of the track to even play (much less how weird it sounds to have the music cut out and the start of it to play) but the final Bowser variant is such a good track that I think I'll defend it being added anyways.

>>7292383
35

Soulless Stars is fucking trash and anyone that defends it is a moron.

>>7292436
>AHHHHHHH I'VE GOT TO SHITPOOOOOST
>EVERYWHERE I GO I MUST SHITPOST
>I CAN'T ALLOW EVEN ONE TOLERABLE THREAD
>I GOT SHITPOSTED AGAINST AND IT HURT MY FEELINGS SO BAD I NEED TO RUIN EVERYONE ELSE'S DISCUSSIONS

>>7294564
>Before or after speeding it up to 60Hz? I assume after.

Before. Or I wouldn't mention it, moron.

>>7294674
Has anyone ever made webms of the difference? I played both the other day just to see and still didn’t see a MAJOR difference. Mario doesn’t poke through the block in either just rebounds slightly quicker. Maybe it’s a momentum thing, I couldn’t be arsed experimenting further

>>7296012
On All Stars if you run and jump to a brick, the one in front of you will stop you from running, as Mario goes up to about 1/5 of the broken brick. On NES Mario continues running as he bounces back as soon as the brick is smashed and does not colide with the brick in front of it. Not a major problem, just a difference, and I'm sure if it was the other way around All Stas=rs would still be criticised.

>>7292383
left !

because it was my fist videogame :)

>Soulless Stars

>"Soulless"

>"soulless stars"

SMB1 All-Stars is more fun. I never liked how the original SMB1 handled.

>>7296283
>aesthetics are questioned by SOULtists
>the narrative it's now about superiority based on gameplay
Get a grip allstarslets

>>7292383
The original.

>>7293162
>>7293470
>>7295808
>itt butthurt faggots wanting this place to be like re**it
How about you go back and stay there.

>>7292383
Left is famous worldwide - even poverty-tier russians know good old NES knock off communist mario the plumber they played on their dendy's.
Right is some sugary pile of garbage played mostly by spoiled ameristani children. Nintendo dropped off of the global radar for everyone else to still have cared.

>>7296762
>third worlder seething over all-stars because they couldn't play it
Ah, I finally understand why it gets exclusively autistic, unreasonable forms of hate.

>>7296762

super aryan mario bros on the pc engine, of course.

>>7296764
Me? No. I don't even like SMB1 very much. The levels are too familiar to me from playing it as a kid. There's no point in ever touching it again.
But, it is a symbollic game, like freaking tetris, everyone knows it. And I don't remember the last time I played tetris either.

>>7292383
>>7292408
>>7292419
NES > FDS > SNES > DX > Classic NES series version on GBA

>>7296843
>NES > FDS
What's the difference?

>>7296847
NES is more american, therefore better

>>7296847
Loading and somewhat less reliable format

>>7293192
It's literally just changing a + to a − for one of the variables.

>>7296268
>that giant mushroom cap

>>7293192
>>7297528
Yup, but there were certain quirks (triggered in extremely specific situations) to the inner workings of the system that were fixed for FDS SMB2
The patch makes All-Stars SMB1 actually *better* than the original NES or FDS release since it fixes those as well.

>>7293262
You wanna know how I can tell you’ve never played it?

>>7293262
>lakitu levels are unplayable
what? why?

>>7292383
The original is always the best, period.

>>7298708
>The original is always the best, period.

>>7298312
I call bullshit

>>7298720
Nice non argument, shit for brains.

>>7298720
nothing wrong with rescue dog. have a heart

>>7292383
SMB1: NES
SMB2: SNES
SMB3: tied

>>7292383
if allstars had kept close to the original aesthetic, it would have been better

>>7292383
Neither. Super Mario All-Stars remake is identical in terms of gameplay to the original game sans the brick physics thing, (which apatch addresses) bugs, and other very minor things.

It's really a question of which aesthetics people prefer. Which obviously is more a question of subjective tastes that intrinsic qualities of either of the two games.

I don't care for Super Mario All-Stars at all compared to the original NES/Famicom games. I'll go with them instead every time.

>>7292408
Super Mario Bros. 1 All-stars SNES version was never ported to the GBA

Super Mario Bros 1 is only on the GBA as the Classic NES Series

Both 2 was ported to GBA as Super Mario Advance, and 3 was ported to GBA as Super Mario Advance 4

>>7292383
Left because it has no color banding

>>7292383
I hate the SNES soundtrack

>>7302912
the underground theme is pretty good imo