/vr/ - Retro Games

when gen 6 was allowed on /vr/

>>7291492
Most of Gen 5 on. Not completely, but most of it.

>>7291492
Never. There was always shovelware, and passion projects are still made today. Either video games never had soul or they still do.

MUH SOOOOOOULLLLLLLLLLL

>>7291492
2007

Games werent made solely to be microtransaction skinner box vehicles until the 7th gen

I'm not going to use the word "soul" but the major paradigm shift where modern game design philosophy took root happened around 2001. Basically the Dreamcast/PS2 transition.

>>7291590
People here are too blinded by nostalgia to see that the majority of games each generation weren't not these golden age masterpieces and that the second we hit the year 2000 everything went to shit

>>7291769
2007 was the death of videogames as we know it

>>7291779
There was a point though when games went from being sold as a good to being sold as a service.

>>7291794
The last decade has been very rough especially when it comes to the AAA market. I won't disagree with you there.

>>7291492
Pic related.

>>7291806
A lot of good series and studios died due to modern gaming marketing (Westwood definitely related)

>>7291492
Sometime in Gen 7

>>7291494
Fuck off, faggot

>>7291492
Around 2007. The same year of the rise of social media an smartphones. The 7th gen made game stagnate until today. We haven't been able to move away from it still.

>>7291818
social media is a plague on the world as a whole, not just videogames. Until it dies we wont be free.

>>7291740
>>7291787
These guys get it.

>>7291492
When you stopped being 12

>>7291492
This photo is weirdly dark and eerie. It looks like something out of a Silent Hill game.

>>7291492
The year when people begging for DLC became the norm.

>>7291492
2000
>>7291813
no, fuck you, faggot fuck
>>7292003
zoomie detected
>"MUH NAE"
>literally just snapshit from a disposable camera

>>7291591
>there is no such thing as “soul”, or “souls”! Professor Rabinowitz told me so!

>>7291863
2007 was also the year that the internet became shit

The internet really messed things up, but there's still plenty of great games. Even moreso if you get a PC and discover peoples passion projects that would never even get shared or published if not for the internet and being able to just self-publish on steam or post your work online. At least that's one of the few good things the internet did for gaming.

2007 was probably the year when it started, although I'd probably say thay it was much more obvious around 2010. It's not just a matter of good ot bad games, though: the search for "respect" of the videogame medium, the rise of realism in games, DLCs, microtransactions, virtue signalling and political agendas everywhere, japanese games being less relevant, etc. The only good thing about it has been that we have been able to play and enjoy more classic games to avoid modern crap.

>>7291492
Basically 2001 with the end of the dreamcast and neo-geo. Ps2 and xbox were definately souless, Gamecube had soul but wii didn't. Wii U brought soul back for a bit but the general rule is most games don't have soul, a few do but its not the general rule.

Smash bros, vietiful joe, sonic even resident evil 4 at the time, they were soulful games from around the 2000's on the cube.

I think psp and 3ds were soulful aswell.

Midtown madness 3 on xbox, souless compared to 1 and 2 on win 98. I think games being souless is symptom of people not wanting to admit the really games are toys, Nintendo does seem to treat their systems and games like toys which is what gave the wii u soul.

Just because something is souless doesn't mean it is necessarily bad either and something with a lot of soul can actually be bad too.

>>7292130
Remember when one of the most popular website was maddox, is he still working that crap it job.

>>7291847
The xbox 360 standarized the interconnection between internet points and gaming. Its been standarized ever since but it was just another effect of culture in general going to shit and both gaming and the internet becoming adopted by normies. There was a huge lowering on the standards of thee lowest common denominator user for both, since then we only saw games becoming more and more like AAA hollywood garbage thats expensive but always the same. Lots of genres that before 2007 were thriving became niches and focus was on online points, movie games, and standarized gameplay across all genres to fit the gta clone formula.

>>7292120
>Stretching this far to force /pol/ shit on every thread
you need to go back

>>7291492
Whatever year it was when I became an adult :(((((

>>7292186
i unironically started appreciating games more as an adult.

>>7291740
/thread

>>7292159
Some good points there. Yes, the decline started right with the new century. A lot of classic companies from the 80s and 90s suddenly ended their life or just got merged into another company: Data East, Irem, Technosoft, Westone, Taito, etc. SNK and SEGA got bankrupt and almost died, while Konami started their huge downfall too. Treasure got their last hits and became gradually irrelevant.

Arcade culture started to fade out in the west and 2D art was almost abandoned by all the major developers. Basically, a lot of really huge changes happened at the start of the new century that got gradually worse eventually until reaching the 2010s. There has been some really good games in those 2 decades, though, not everything has been awful. As you said, portable gaming was pretty good and soulful: GBA, NDS, PSP, etc, which might be because those systems got a lot of oldschool style of games during their lifetime.

Around the time this became prevalent.
Modern buisness model stripped the soul out of videogames. Mobile is the culprit. Also mobile killed japanese arcades, which is the most soulful thing.

>>7291492
It's somewhere between 1999 and 2007.

In 1999
-Arcades started fading into irrelevance, not being able to compete with home consoles anymore
-Birth of professional esports, with Starcraft
-Videogame industry quits being the "poor cousin" of the movie industry and surpasses the movie AND music industry combined in earnings, becoming the #1 entertainment business

>>7291492
Just like all other forms of entertainment as well as society as a whole, it was a process that began in 2007 and completed sometime in 2014.

>>7291808
the guy who invented basketball was NOT tan, if you click the fucking link it shows you how fucking white he is. these fucking google kikes are really bold.

>>7291492

when box art began being digitally illustrated.

Yeah things aren't as SOULFUL as when you were a kid and whatever shit you consumed then was so SOULFUL compared to now because those same corporations just aren't as SOULFUL as they used to be because now you're a fucking faggot.

>>7291769
I’ve felt like that was the year game design started changing but I can’t quite put my finger on it. What do you think changed and why? Did the medium simply become too mainstream and commercialized?

>>7292520
chill schizo

>>7291492
1999 was the last good year. After the fucking conglomerates ruined gaming forever.

>>7291492
2004, objectively.

>>7292120
>posts wojak when called out for using shitty buzzwords
Every fucking time with you zoombies I swear.

2001 also when everything else in the world went to shit

>>7291492
2007

>>7291492
When GameStop started collecting discs in sleeves for resale.

>>7291492
Whenever you got old enough to stop enjoying new things

>>7293334
that is not a normal thing to happen to you unless you have chronic depression.

>>7293340
I think this board is perfectly aware of that

>>7291492
Probably 2007. Maybe when a Madden game became the year's best seller after the PS2 released.

>>7293360
That was around the time the quality of the franchise had peaked. Even people who didn’t like football that much wanted it because of how realistic it seemed at the time.

>>7293334
Then why did I play SotN for the first time 2 years ago and enjoyed it more than any fucking "game" made past 2006?

>>7293381
Because you're nostalgic for things that are closer to your childhood, even if you didn't play them back then, because they contain all the trappings of a better time.

When it stopped being just white nerds making games. Women & pajeets ruined it. Exactly the same culprits who ruined the internet also.

>>7291494
Retard found

>>7293417
but white nerds never made good games, in fact americans in particular have had a net negative impact on gaming which was mostly good thank to japanese nerds

>>7291492
the moment you matured, now there is only betabuxing to a femoid who doesn't even respect you. life is cruel, isn't it?

>>7291494
Based
>>7291813
>>7293472
Cringe

Gen 8 was the end of an era. All the consoles pushed out repetitive nonsense and basically the ps4 and Xbox one were basically just cash grabs, Nintendo began making everything they touched "limited edition" to the point that basically there wasn't a couple of consoles to be interested in and it seemed the ps4 and Xbox one did it too, a little less though. You could blame gen7 though as the 360 had too much crappy peripherals like the Wii and basically the two consoles were quite generic and dull as interfaces. Only thing there is I can't say the same about the ps3 because it just had something to it that made it special.

>>7291787
came to post this

>>7292474
japanese arcades were killed by the jrpg tsunami in the late 90's, long before the mobile era

>>7292561
>assmad zoom zoom whose first videogale was clash of clans is mad.

>>7292130
>this pic again

I cant even begin to say how innacruate it is
Most of the stuff in this photo didnt gain any popularity until 2012

>>7293590
wrong, the first time i heard someone tell me "what?? you don't have facebook??" was around 2008, by that point it was already seen as weird not to have one. 2012 was maybe the years zoomers like you started coming into them, but they were long adopted by millenials by that point.

>>7293606
lol you're wrong and if I explain how you'll just be pissy and say its wrong
But hey guess you can just keep on posting that image and thinking you're right, even though you and I both know its inaccurate

Later, kid

>>7293612
yeah, we know you think things only started when you particularly adopted them, typical zoomer, we know

Funny thing is by 2012 tumblr was already starting to become irrelevant and uncool and was sold shortly after and fb was becoming more like the stereotype of the boomer social media as its seen today.

>>7292159
>Ps2 and xbox were definately souless
Katamari Damacy is more soulful than anything on the GameCube. You sound like someone who hasn't bothered to explore the libraries of either the PS2 or Xbox. And 3/4 of your examples of the GameCube being soulful are multiplats.
>vietiful joe
>resident evil 4
Both on PS2 as well.
>sonic
On PS2 and Xbox.
>Smash bros
A soulless Nintendo sequel, like Nintendo churns out for every decades-old IP it has for every new console that it releases.

>>7293651
Resident Evil 4 sucks.

>>7293664
But not as much as your mum.

>>7291740
Roughly around here. I believe the last good games came in 200 however.

>>7293672
Well, it was even long before chess. What was it, may I ask?

>>7291494
You know i thought it was going to a horrible thing too, bit its really not bad. Nobody really cares to talk about anything past 6th gen here, so it's actually pretty nice to be able to talk about gba and ps2 games, it doesn't really hinder anything. Theres still crt threads, saturn threads, doom threads, the guy who says sega system threads, etc... I dont really see a downside as of now.

>>7292120
Go back to containment on /pol/ You brain dead hog

>>7291492
Toys R Us... home...

>>7291494

It still feels good to see people whine about this.

>>7291494
Based, zoombies seething

>>7293686
Nah, we get tons of/v/faggotry here now.

>>7291492
3d anything. N64, PS1 era for sure was the death of the vidya soul.

>>7294315
We did before too

>>7293590
the big two the iphone and weren't were big from the get go and the dude below you about facebook is 100%. you were an odd motherfucker if you were a teen/ college/young adult trying to act like a normalfag and didn't have facebook in 2008

>>7294394
facebook/weren't*

The videogames never lost their soul.

I did.

>>7294341
this. 4th was the pinnacle, everything after that was shovelware.

>>7291808
Any other answer means you’re a zoomer and should fuck off and go back to /v/.

>>7291492
When you grew up.

Super Mario Sunshine was the first entry in the "main" Mario series that felt unessential.

in mid playstation 3 era, and trying to make a culture from videogames based on stupid nerd type people, dressed like idiots and cheering to stupid shit on E3 presentations.

>>7294929
the big bang theory and hipster times. those things haven't aged, they just became so normal that no one singles them out by calling them "geek culture" or "hipsters" anymore. They get called soi at most on a place like this site (which ironically is one of the main contributors for that same kind of hipster nerd trendster faggot's meme persona existing in the first place) but thats it.

>>7292171
Not understanding the concept of artistic or spiritual soul is a sign of a liberal mind- a hollow citizen of the world with no culture who lives to consume mass produced corporate horse shit.

>>7293957
Awwww triggered the little soulless ESL.

If you’re so triggered about it, blow your own brains out. No ones going to miss another soulless corporate zombie.

>>7291740
wtf 2007 had mountains of soulful games, you should have said 2008

What year did MechAssault (the first Xbox game that offered DLC) came out?
Thats the correct answer

>>7293562
>videogale

>>7295167
MechAssault was fucking lit

Also Dreamcast games had DLC zoomie

>>7295167
what year the xbox came out? thats the correct answer

>>7291492
These threads are always the same gay and retarded shit because instead of talking about old games you just circle jerk about how games stopped being good when you stopped participating in the world.

>>7292171
Not understanding the concept of artistic or spiritual soul is a sign of a liberal mind- a hollow citizen of the world with no culture who lives to consume mass produced corporate horse shit.

>>7293957
Awwww triggered the little soulless ESL.

If you’re so triggered about it, blow your own brains out. No ones going to miss another soulless corporate zombie

>>7291492

mmmm around 2009 I think.

>>7291740
anything after 07

video games didn't lose their soul. the target audience lost theirs.

>>7291492
16-bit best bit.

>>7291492
Around 7th gen seems about right.

>>7296025
>the concept of artistic or spiritual soul
>mass produced corporate horse shit
>another soulless corporate zombie

hahaha holy shit, I know that this is a troll but fuck me that's some dumbshit posting.
You certainly put the moron in oxymoron my man.

>>7294914
>forgetting about Hotel Mario

2006-2007 was the point where it became impossible to deny that the casual gamer market had taken priority over the core gamer market.

Guitar Hero and its retarded peripherals were selling like hotcakes and the Wii was barely any worthwhile hardware upgrade over the Gamecube, yet was was still flying off the shelves to sell retarded waggle shit to normies and wine moms.

It was always going to happen, though. When sports games started to take off in the 4th gen, the industry got a clear signal that more than just pasty faced nerds and and autistic hamplanets were throwing down cash on their games.

By the 5th gen, the sports games were obviously big money and here to stay, and with Parappa, and then Dance Dance Revolution, the beginning of the end for 'core' games as the economic focus was already there.

/vr/ will hate to hear it, but I actually think that Halo and CoD are the only things that convinced the industry not to completely abandon making actual games.

>>7291494
fpwp

PS3 and 360 era when consoles were released pretty much same time worldwide. The PS2 was the last console that was Jap exclusive for half a year or more

>>7296573
>the industry got a clear signal that more than just pasty faced nerds and and autistic hamplanets were throwing down cash on their games.
I don't know if its an american thing, but I grew up in the 80s and 90s and I remember that pretty much all sorts of people played videogames, even if it were just a few compared to nowadays. In fact, I don't remember seeing a single typical nerd in my whole childhood, and arcades were considered pretty popular places for kids and young adults to hang up to. Games those days were seen as something a bit like punk, which adults couldn't understand and feared, so a lot of popular and rebellious kids played them too.

>>7291740
It was always-online micro-transaction bullshit that ended video games.

When the ps2 and gamecube were released.

>>7291494
based

>>7294315
been here since the inception of /vr/

>>7291808
>>7294497

Nah as a boomer, 96 and the jump to 3D would qualify. SNES was the last great console, death of an era.

>>7291740
After 2007 was the beginning of the end for videogames world wide. Videogames will never be soulful ever again. I'm very black pilled for the future of this industry.

>>7293590
>>7293612

Cringe

I think around when MW2 became the most popular game. I really enjoyed it but looking back it was just addicting online play and having to pay to play online and of course dlc. If there was ever a time when soul was removed it was then imo

>>7291492
When the PS2 came out. After that some games still had it, but more and more didn't. Then the XBox 360 and PS3 happened and it was pretty much over.

>>7296461
Nice incoherent response. Like most shitlibs you sputter nonsense when not direbeing fed opinions by one of your puppet masters.

Independent thought is not a strong suite of you sub humans. No, They (in 2020) are literally automatons that do and think what they are told with not so much as an objection (internally or externally). The perfect submissive citizen...


If they have to turn in their own mothers into the PC execution force, they will... and with a big fucking smile on their face. Independent thought is not part of the equation.

>>7291740
ok zoomer

>>7291492
>What year did video games lose their soul, /vr/?
well as a pc and 6th gen gamer I say after 2010.

- Multiplayer FPS doesn't have the dedicated server feature or LAN
- Nobody produces arcades anymore
- Openworld and RPG mechanics on almost every game
- World of Warcraft is mainstream and blizzard blast the MMORPG market
- There are western games released whit "free 2 play" formula; worse case: an online game become F2P.
- 7th and 8th gen console are boring because they try to follow the PC experience (less split-screen games)
- GTA IV pushed the franchise in a likely setting (from GtaSA I moved to Saints Row 2)

>>7297816
GTA IV was the best GTA and one of the few good games of 7th gen.

Sure beat the nigger shit of SA

>>7291492
It never did, you're just jaded, biased and blinded by nostalgia

>>7294909
Then why do some games still have soul and others don't even after I grew up?

>>7297826
>Sure beat the nigger shit of SA
SA had a lot of funny secondary mission; awesome vehicles; property; the variety of setting; the variety of weapons and not less important variety of minigames.

>>7291492
2005

>>7297816
Ah, yes. The year Team Fortress 2 introduced Keys and World of Warcraft introduced a 25 dollar mount that made them 50 billion dollars in two hours. Boy, did everything go to shit fast after that.

>>7292519
It was completed by like 09 or 2010

>>7292561
Plenty of people who weren't kids back then agree.

Horse armor was the first sign of the end times.

>>7297826
found the slav

>>7291494
fpbp

>>7292526
Oh so you mean 1985? Super Mario Bros. has digital illustrations on its boxart.

>>7297561
>Like most shitlibs you sputter nonsense
yet you talk like a commie about muh capitalism bad but you are probably an inbred nazi which are mostly just commies but chauvinistic. Understandable given most red states live off from either Farm Aid or the army as the wellfare queens they are, all their food production is at a loss so cletus can charge more than he is worth for his shit, it would be cheaper to import than support wellfare niggers in the bible belt who vote for more backwards shit.

>>7296573
>Halo and CoD
>actual games.

>>7291740
This no really this is the year.

>>7291740
the last truly great year for video games was 2005

The end of Metal Gear Solid 2 is the end of video games. It tried to tell you. This was after 9/11, and you were required to stop playing them, to become.

But we didn't, we stayed with the corpse.

>>7296596
ps3 and 360 are maximum soulless

>>7298219
Correcto

The year this was released

>>7291808
This is the true /vr/ patrician's answer,

>>7297561
>everyone here is american and everyone who disagrees with me is a part of [political party and ideology that I oppose]

fuck off back to /pol/ you american shitstain, you're an absolute brain deficient paranoid meme spouting retard who posts the same pic and same political shit ad infinitum in threads that have nothing to do with the shit you spout.

Around the time of the PlayStation 3. Before that, everything felt so magical. Somehow, after that, gaming stores just felt like stores that had games in stock. Only lost even more soul into the 8th gen.

>>7299163
>>everyone here is american and everyone who disagrees with me is a part of [political party and ideology that I oppose]
they unironically think like that, as if they are not all the same regardless of political affiliation

>>7297561
>>7299163
>>7299187
Shitlib implies American? What did I miss? It means you're a tranny loving man-wife, Anon.

>>7291492
2013 when the PS4 and Xbox One came out.
Console games started needing huge updates out of the box. Utter shit.

>>7299181
True, Xbox and PS3 felt interchangeable at that point with no special exclusives. Compare that from Snes v Genesis and Ps1 v N64 ...

>>7299229
It was WAAAAAAY before that, zoomanon.

>>7296493
Oh I didn't forget

>>7291740
redpilled

>>7291494
based

>>7299926
07 was good despite the seed that destroyed everything being planted that year.

>>7299976
I actually agree, 2007 seemed fine at first glance. The damage didn't really start to show itself from 2009-2012

Whenever the 360/Wii/PS3 gen started. The internet-connected consoles with storefronts, patching, digital games, micro transactions, GaaS, etc. just killed whatever soul was left.

>>7299980
It started to be noticeable in 08 IMO, but definitely by 2010-2012 it was incredibly present how bad things had gotten.

>>7291492
I've been playing Yakuza Like A Dragon on my Xbox One S. That game has soul. Games still have soul. You just lost your soul because you're stuck in the past and can't see the beauty of the present.

>>7299991
was about to post this. I still remember when game/electronic stores had playable booths (even an entire section) that allowed you to play full games/demos. This was especially helpful when i was too young to afford games, especially if i couldnt emulate them. speaking of which, demo discs died too. now you can download demos at home.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUwp1EYFU6w

>>7300019
That's because SEGA is a soulful company and still carries the 80s and 90s spirit in some of their recent games. Also, Nagoshi was a big developer during the 90s arcade craze and still applies that philosophy to his latest games.

somewhere around 2005

>>7299926
ah the same year people started hating furries

>>7291494
So 2020? Zoomer detected.

>>7292651
He's right though. How does that make him schizophrenic?

video games always sucked ass

Soul is basically anything pre-9/11, when our economy was prosperous and people weren't so afraid and divided.

>>7292643
Not him, but the "arcade game" paradigm died out. For example, in the 90s, even in games that were not arcade ports, you often had score, lives, continues, etc. That gradually disappeared during the PS1 era, and it was completely over with the PS2. From this point "video games" meant something else. And the major games stopped being arcade-like games (Street Fighter II, Sonic, etc.) to become something more cinematic, adult, immersive (Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil, etc.).

>>7291494
based

>>7291492
Past 1990

>>7291494
Based

>>7305110
>and it was completely over with the PS2
how's that revisionist history going for you? not so well?
> sonic
> arcade-like
yeah, this board is completely full of delusional fucking morons.

Based, only popped in here to reply to this then I'm out, I'm not sticking around this aids-ridden cancerhole that can't get its definition right and buckles to the slightest breeze

>>7291494
>/vr/ autists still cant handle the fact gen 6 is 21 years old now
lmao

>>7305409
>the average /vr/ ragetard / ALF poster

>>7305418
I'm not a /vr/tard because I dont come here anymore, thanks to you

>>7291492
2011 with Skyrim
Skyrim was the soulless defining game, and a huge success so everyone started to copy

2007. Everything went to shit at that point. Film, Music, Videogames.

>>7305665
>Everything went to shit at that point. Film, Music, Videogames.
Music and movies were already shit before? What exactly made music and movies shit in 2007 compared to any other year? Or are you just spouting shit

>>7293487
Fuck off weeb there are plenty of white made games that are awesome

>>7291492
2008 because of Steam. Something happened because of online digital distribution. Companies no longer had to make sure anything worked. Just ship it.

>>7306959
>muh skyrim

>>7305820
the zoomer became a teenager around that time and thought he was the first teenager in history of the world to feel jaded about stuff

>>7291492
The majority of the PS3 and 360 libraries were soulless but the following generation got back on the right track. Games like Sonic Mania and A Hat in Time do a great job taking what made old games good and creating something new with it. There are games like Gravity Rush that are completely new but do something unique and fun enough to make them feel like something that belongs in a previous generation. Series like Devil May Cry are still getting new entries that feel just as good as if not better than the originals. A ton of new fighting games are out or coming out soon that are doing excellent things for the genre. Just because last gen everything was a brown first person shooter or a movie game doesn't mean there aren't still plenty of soul-filled games coming out. I might get more use out of my Genesis and PS2 than my PS4 and Switch but it really isn't that hard to find a good current gen game. There was just as much garbage coming out for older consoles, and just because bad games are what's mostly popular nowadays doesn't mean that bad games are the only games that come out

>>7305665
>Music
Popular music has been shit since the early 90s. Just because good music is rarely on the radio anymore doesn't matter since the internet exists and plenty of good songs come out elsewhere

The push for 3D gaming was a terrible time. I mean, a lot of those games have a quirky appeal but it was actually shit living through that period. The quality of 2D games was finally reaching kino levels on 32bit systems just as they were abandoned for wonky 3D games.

However, the seventh generation of gaming (Wii, PS3, Xbox 360) is the single most soulless generation. I thank the seventh gen for making retro gaming accessible again but the price was a full 10 years of motion controls and Call of Duty clones. I will not miss it and think gaming is actually better today.

>>7306996
who even listens to radio? i don't even get the argument anymore, it truly has never been easier to listen to any niche music genre you want from any era. I think kids just repeat what boomers say without questioning if it makes sense or not. I thought mainstream music was absolute garbage when i was a teenager too so i didn't listen to mainstream music, the end.

>>7299926
Made me feel depressed.

>>7299926
more proof americans ruined everything

>>7291494
fukkin savage

>>7293643
>by 2012 tumblr was becoming irrelevant

definitely not true. it was beginning to become infested with the old crowd from art spaces (aka deviantART when it started rapidly turning in a fetish website) and got raided with liberal nutjobs and third-wave feminists the following year when they got hold of a smartphone.

>>7291492
late 2004-2007 was when the seeds were planted. i dont know what the fuck it was but if its of any note, a lot of people always refer to the early-2000s as a solid time despite the towers getting hit. maybe it was because the middle east was about to get invaded that the media began to change its tune?

>>7307143
People are willing to excuse any shit that happened during the time frame they grew up in. The early 00s no longer gets shitted on because those who grew up in it are older now

>>7307213
not always. you can have a lot of people who have god awful childhoods but have fond memories for the brief periods of good that took place outside of it all.
its more of a matter of what is encouraged around the time they speak of, and how it would've related to them and people they knew, compared to those exact same kinds of people dealing with a different sociopolitical situation we have now.

music is arguably different now and people partied differently back then compared to now, and sometimes, thats worth mentioning. and its important to see how adults were looking out on the world at the time too to gain an idea of what people were actually thinking.

its easy to just put people into a box and paint it as boomervszoomervsmillenial but if anything, such categorisations ignores the overarching shit that goes on day to day and how it affects all 3 of those kinds of people during that timeframe.

>>7298358
I make a post calling out the other dumbass for his incoherent nonsense, and then you come at me with more silly shit that’s way off tangent. It’s like you copy pasted a hodgepodge of reddït comments trying to cast a wide net hoping something would stick on me.

> yet you talk like a commie about muh capitalism bad

You see, I respect commies as enemies because at least they recognize that the current system is fucked to its core and they want to fight to change it; I have less than zero respect for bootlicking liberals who’s only game plan for the future is to deepthroat senile fucking Joe Biden. I mean, commies had Stalin and Mao, who do you have? Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton lmao.

> probably an inbred nazi

I’m not even white (I know it’s so schooling and scary when a brown man isn’t kissing your ass, I mean you faggots got on your knees for us and everything) and nazi means nothing at this point.

> army as the wellfare queen

Do you expect me to have a knee jerk reaction and start waving the flag? Fuck the military industrial complex, they’re the ones who force your worldview on other nations you stupid fuck. Anytime a country decides they don’t want to be part of the globalist toilet, America bombs them into the Stone Age or blockades them off from the rest of the world. I’d take Saddam, Gaddaffi, and Putin over any gutless piece of shit with a D next to their name in congress.

>muh farm peepeepoopoo

That’s such a small part of the equation as to why the US economy and world order is fucked (and most farming is automated and done by multimillionaire agribusinesses, not random yokels you uneducated fuck). The whole neoliberal system that allows you to sit in your cuckbox apartment and stream your faggot shows was built off of third world slave labor and violence. Why don’t we talk about that over fucking farm policy?

Death to America, death to the Democratic Party, and death to the liberal world order.

>>7299163
lol

2007

>>7299926
>seriously using the History of Anime image
You fell for the bait, OP.

>>7291492
Sometime between 2002 and 2006

>>7305408
Old does not mean retro.

>>7309329

>>7291492
September 10 2008, the year the large hadron was turned on for the first time

>>7291492
when EA started buying out most companies

>>7291492
When digital downloads as opposed to physical media became the norm.