/vr/ - Retro Games

They would continue making soulless games, except people would no longer overrate them.

I'd be playing Mario on my Windows PC.
So it would be the same.

Maybe Mario would no longer be a racist Italian stereotype.

>>7278235
Americans would have ruined gaming way sooner

I'd actually buy their games

>>7278268
Jesus. Just imagine what a retcon shitshow it would be if US tech wokies got hold of Nintendo IP.

>>7278235
GEE I WONDER WHY

>Bob McBreen, head of business development, said that the pitch to Nintendo was that their “hardware stunk, and compared to Sony PlayStation, it did.”
>Nintendo would focus on the games – “Listen, you’re much better at the game portions of it with Mario and all that stuff. Why don’t you let us take care of the hardware?”, McBreen recalled - but it “didn’t work out.”

Mainly want to buy the Mario IP? Check. (further proof of that: they thought they had DK when they brought Rare)
Want Nintendo to go third party when they burned bridges with Sony over much less (backdoor to their SNES certification fees through the SNES-CD addon)? Check.
Shits on the to-be partner to try and make your proposal seem better? Check.

Microsoft, in no particular order:
Contributed with a Dreamcast OS, though it was so cumbersome to develop for that Sega allowed developers to bypass it and develop directly in assembly.
Head-hunted the hell out of Sega developers, then squandered it all not even before the OG Xbox era was over. (Lots of cancelled games and corporate meddling in creative choices for Blinx that now looks ugly as sin)
Tried to bribe the Japanese company that was producing PS2 DualShock controllers into LEAKING the blueprints for them. For a controller.
Shinji Mikami went out of his way to avoid Sony that he was the one to seek them out. He asked them what was their console's selling point. What was the IDEA behind it. What ensued is an hour of bullshitting that bored Mikami to death so much he left in anger before the meeting was even over.

He's lucky Nintendo humored him. Even that could be justified by Nintendo wanting a free guided tour of the Xbox future plans.

>>7278790
there's similar stories involving Capcom directors simply walking out on Microsoft people during meetings. Everything points at microsoft being fully retarded and and all the jingoistic stereotypes and american jokes applied to them and very likely still do.

>>7278235
the japanese are immune to the hex box jews

They didn't even need to, they had great games at the time like motorcros madness, age of empires and a few others.

Every day I think "Nintendo couldn't possibly become more based today" and every day I am wrong. Kikrosoft BTFO.

>>7278805
Based.

>>7278805
>>7278790
Based Nippon

Can confirm. Microsoft is retarded. How long have they been trying to get a foot on the ground in japan? Almost 20 years now?

>>7278235
And like Sony's pitch, they probably wanted publishing rights.

>>7278656
Microsoft is partially responsible for the Sonic 06 disaster (signed a deal that had unrealistic deadlines with Sega, because Xbox 360 needed a big title for the holidays) and immediately screwed over all of their JRPG initiative partners because they weren't million sellers.

What would have likely happened is a repeat of the rushed launch of Super Mario Sunshine (in Next Level Game' edgy artstyle) and a Zelda Wind Waker equivalent with Twilight Princess' artstyle. Then unlike NCL did when they saw these entries underperform (1 million compared to multiple million sales) they would cancel Mario and Zelda then and there.
The Metroid series never sold that well, so it wouldn't even be greenlit to begin with. Prime wouldn't happen, or wouldn't release (M$ would see the struggling developers and cancel the project immediately instead of delaying the game)

Nintendo SPD and all associated projects and partners would be terminated not too long after (including Kirby, Chibi-Robo, whatever), lots of games cancelled from Microsoft Redmont which will frustrate a lot of Nintendo talents enough to quit (if not laid off before)... and Pokémon... would be console-only, would have a photorealistic sequel with real-time combat and no semblance of strategy or game balance left, and all monsters would be redesigned in deviant art style, if not that horrible faux-anime style some american companies tried around 2005 (Oni by Rockstar, that Chrono Trigger clone on DS, etc)

After that? IPs to ruin will run out (and yes Mario aged like milk, it's just that Nintendo has been doing wonders to try and reinvent it to prevent fatigue. bigger and older franchises were mismanaged worse...) They will go Rare's way, with an american flown off to lead their Japan Studio (much like you see with Sony nowadays)

>>7278853
>(in Next Level Game' edgy artstyle)
>Then unlike NCL did when they saw these entries underperform (1 million compared to multiple million sales) they would cancel Mario and Zelda then and there.
This is accurate. Lets just remind ourselves: This is what Xbox did to Bomberman,

>>7278846
Nintendo had the best selling computer in Japan in the eighties (the MSX) which they forcibly cancelled in 1990 (other computers endured just fine until 1995) because it competed with... an East-Asia JP version of Windows 3.1 for the PC-98. Which failed hilariously until the actual x86 based Windows 95.

They were blowing Sega and their SG-3000 off the water. It had third party support from Konami, Capcom, Square, even multi platform releases with the NES or PC Engine.
Did they leverage their hold on the gaming landscape in Japan then? Did they produce a sequel? NOPE. And it was for the better, really.

>>7278864
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?

Never understood this. Same with Xbox duke or S controller or original xbox not just using USB regular usb inputs.

>>7278864
We know about Microsoft's dealings with Japanese developers enough to tell

- they don't value character design and creative vision for a consistent worldbuilding that much (or it has to be a woke pet project of someone in the favors of their american HR/marketing department, or if they're too scared their veto will sabotage the project like with Akira Toriyama's designs for Blue Dragon) and so they will reject designs that look too cutesy - see Blinx who went from a cute cat to a collection of roadkill specimens.

- they will require a game utilize and showcase hardware effects as much as possible, regardless whether it makes sense, whether developing expensive assets for pitch demos is a fine idea, or whether it will harm the project long term (when they need to get the game logic AND playable FPS). Microsoft will be more likely to HIRE THIS MAN than to hire Nintendo's own project leaders and programming geeks whose games are gameplay-driven and often start with untextured cubes as pitch demos to showcase the gameplay ideas.

>WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
>for american consoru
>for american marketeru

>>7278235
theyd have made a lot more shitty ass games
look what happened to rare

>>7278864
lmao
this is legitimately one of the worst games ive ever fucking played
even if it wasnt a completely ridiculous retcon of bomberman, its still one of the shittiest games ive ever laid eyes on
absolutely irredeemable

Seems like this is the talk of the town now.
This has been known for a while. Microsoft basically has tried to buy everything at one point, except for Apple.

The simple answer is everything would have been the same. Maybe Nintendo would've produced more games and fewer really good ones due to Microsoft's westernized quantity over quality business model.
But Nintendo is so stubborn that I can easily imagine they could have get a demand accepted for being able to produce games at the same rate as right now.

>>7278853
>that Chrono Trigger clone on DS
The what? Only clone I am only aware of us I Am Setsuna and that came way after the DS era

>>7278656
most likely the japanese devs would leave and start a new company rather than work for the gaijins

the IPs don't really matter, nobody really gives a fuck about the deep lore of fat italian man

>>7278268
Go to resetera

>>7278864
Holy shit it's real

>>7278853
>Microsoft is partially responsible for the Sonic 06 disaster (signed a deal that had unrealistic deadlines with Sega

Don't forget Scalebound, Platinum Games.
Exact same shit.

>>7278864
This is just like the way American made console games' cover during NES/SNES era.

>>7278864
>Japanese developer attempts to make game he thinks will appeal to Americans based on Microsoft's advice

>>7278921
>quantity over quality
How many quality products have nintendo produced in the last 5 years again?

>>7278235
Based Nintendo. But the motherfuckers still allowed them to buy-rape Rare.

>>7279031
>rape Rare.
No loss.

>>7278867
>Microsoft had the best selling computer in Japan in the eighties (the MSX) which they forcibly cancelled in 1990 (other computers endured just fine until 1995) because it competed with... an East-Asia JP version of Windows 3.1 for the PC-98. Which failed hilariously until the actual x86 based Windows 95.

They were blowing Sega and their SG-3000 off the water. It had third party support from Konami, Capcom, Square, even multi platform releases with the NES or PC Engine.
Did they leverage their hold on the gaming landscape in Japan then? Did they produce a sequel? NOPE. And it was for the better, really.

FTFY.

>>7278268
Italians love Mario so you can kick rocks

>>7278867
>>7279226
Need to also correct you, Microsoft hadn't sold any Computers. MSX was an architecture you could license from Microsoft. So it wasn't MS who build them, but companies like Sony, Sharp, ect.

You could compare it to X86 / PS/2 or now ARM, but not a computer itself.

>>7278864
>>7278973
>>7278997
>>7279009
>Bomberman never had an edgy artstyle until Brobox retcon
?

>>7279251
Still way better than this trainwreck:
>>7278864

>>7279247
True, true.

>>7279251
and it did not catch on and was changed, i wonder why

>>7278803
Honestly, it seems that a ton of Japanese devs walked out on Microsoft due them being the cliche boisterous retarded american who feels larger than life and becomes obnoxious as well.

Only exception was the Ninja Gaiden too because he's a madman as well.

>>7278935
>nobody really gives a fuck about the deep lore of fat italian ma
I see zoomies going on about it all the time. But you're right. They're nobody.

>>7278268
But you can't be racist against white people, so Mario is OK anyways

>>7278235
Op not realizing it old new back in 2017?

>>7279926
Then a poll was voted on which system: GameCube.

Ninja Gaiden was popular Nintendo title before.

>>7278984
Scalebound old prototype started off as Wii exclusive.

>>7278864
Konami can easily made it open world SpaceLord: before Riders of the lost planet and call a day.

>>7278805
CNBC are shill for left wing puppet.

>>7278235
People don't understand how big Pokemon actually is. When they think Nintendo they think Mario. Pokemon is bigger than Nintendo, and is bigger than any company alone.

>>7279897
Because the sprite/"chibi" version was more marketable.

>>7278790
>writing Dreamcast games in asm
I guarantee you fucking nobody aside from Randy Linden was doing this, and he wasn't writing a game.

>>7278235
> be microsoft
> send the most retarded employees of microsoft to japan to negotiate a buyout
> *nintendo starts laughing*
> "Bob McBreen, head of business development, said that the pitch to Nintendo was that their “hardware stunk, and compared to Sony PlayStation, it did.”
> literally diss their hardware
> *nintendo starts laughing even harder*
> the microsoft employees knew nothing about nintendo's design philosophy before even attempting to buy them out
americans are retards: confirmed and witnessed

>>7278235
>What would happen if Microsoft had bought Nintendo in the past?
nintendo would have still laughed their asses off and shown them the door.

>>7282048
Silicon Valley sodomites aren't American

>>7278235
>mario nuts n bolts
>pokeballs are cancelled, it's animal cruelty
>samus is now black and lgbt
>donkey kong is super cancelled because it's racist
>zelda infinite given to 343 industries, delayed again
>nintendo switch 2 is always online, no used games and mandatory gamepass
>super smash bros has gears of war, crackdown, age of empires
>star fox is now a woman to increase representation
>rosalina is half latino and half native american to please minorities
>fire emblem has hundreds more gay marriage options
>animal crossing is a subscription based online only micro transactions heavy mmo
>kirby is retconned to be american, votes democrat

>>7282090
They tried to buy it at least 10 years before the woke bullshit became mainstream, all the franchises would have been killed of before that

>>7281641
Are you retarded? The media openly encourages people to be racist against whites. Also, Italians aren't white.

>>7282090
>>7282048
You do realize leftists in America hate America with every fiber of their being and constantly praise Europe and Africa (but I repeat myself), right?

>>7278930
Black Sigil: Blade of the Exiled
Canadian developer.
Meant for the GBA in 2005, but somehow cancelled and delayed all the way to 2009 on the Nintendo DS.

>>7282437
i'm not specifically talking about america, more about the fact that every game microsoft touches magically turns into shit

>>7282434
No, you fucking idiot, he means that you can't be racist against white people in the sense that if you're racist to a white person, it's not racism, because...I don't know. But that's how it is. You are right that MSM pushes people to be racist against white people though.

>>7278853
>Chibi-Robo
you act if this series would have any decent future if it fell to anybody else

why didn't they just re-release the NEC? you know? Microsoft's other console they done in japan?

>>7279034
t. Miyamoto

>>7278790
>Initial Xbox code named Midway. As in the decisive American victory over Japan.
>Redesigned controller for puny Japanese hands codenamed Akebono after the first American sumo wrestler to take the championship from Japan

Japan cannot take the big American penis

>>7282434
>Also, Italians aren't white.
Yes they are? It's kikes who aren't white.

>>7283081

>>7282048
Only extreme capitalist turds are retard american us civilized video game educated enthusiasts are the real Americans

>>7282434
>Also, Italians aren't white.

shut up n*rd, go back to your snow hovel with jamal

>>7283081
Nintendo was right. They cringe at Xshit.

>>7283098
Italians aren't white, and neither are kikes.

>>7283580
cope

>>7283081
>Based Yamato rejects big Yaknee mutt

>>7283465
Go away

>>7283098
Mixes people

>>7282434
Italians are white. Americans aren't white

>>7283081
>Midway
>Akebono
Sounds like childish America can't cope getting assblasted by based Nippon.
Should have codenamed Xbox as Detroit.

>>7284569
Fat Man & Little Boy
Pearl Harbor

>>7281809
no one cares mush brains.

>no one cares mush brains.

>>7284516
>t. dark brown-iris delusion
kek

>>7278853
>and all monsters would be redesigned in deviant art style, if not that horrible faux-anime style some american companies tried around 2005 (Oni by Rockstar, that Chrono Trigger clone on DS, etc)

That doesn't any worse than the "Mega Evolution" and some of the other shit Pokémon went through at that time.

>>7285078
Invading of Iraq and Afghan look worse than 9/11