/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
500ml of /vr/
BETA, UPDATED:
https://archive.org/details/500ml-vr-halloween-beta
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/7041037/#7043379
https://discord.gg/F968y8Wj4x

=== NEWS ===
[1-6] Another anon shares a map they made for a larger project (Limit removing, MAP09 slot)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/2ivjew3sw4uipgf/hf09.wad/file

[1-6] Anon shares a WIP map, looking for feedback (ZDoom compatible)
https://files.catbox.moe/yk5fc1.wad

[1-4] Switcheroom 2 gets released
https://twitter.com/JawsInSpaceDW/status/1345389517637873668
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/megawads/swtchrm2

[1-4] More exclusive MacWolf stuff got ported to macenwolf
https://www.moddb.com/mods/macenwolf/news/to-hell-and-back-again

[1-3] Hellrider GZDoom mod gets an update.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=68575

[1-3] La tailor girl updated to 1.77;
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&p=1177677#p1177677

[1-3] Some more tie-in novels to different videogames, movies and other franchises on this website
https://retroreadingtime.com/library/

[1-3] Anon finds obscure 1997 Shadow Warrior tie-in novels https://mega.nz/file/X1dRkYiD#SUzvtsT45rnifA8Csgba9FhlpWGTFoDggTqqm4FipQ0

[1-2] 2048 units of /vr/ anons requesting your help in reporting bugs, details here >>7245767

[1-1] UnMaking, a megawad for Doom 64 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118930-the-unmaking-a-33-map-nightmare-for-doom-64/

[1-1]Quake II Rampage single player mod released.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/rampage-mod

[12-31] New 33-level Doom64 megawad released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118930-the-unmaking-a-33-map-nightmare-for-doom-64/

[12-30] 64Doom, Doom on N64 homebrew footage released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCE1fTW5SqY
How it works:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1-F-YFqMY

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0/edit?usp=sharing

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Which Quake map is the best and why?

Hardmode: no Autist Dimensions

Playthrough video of map16 of 2048 units of /vr/ is up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRy1DsHTnSQ

>>7264956
>MARANAX INFIRMUX

Why do some wads replace specific maps to begin with? Wouldn't it just make sense to replace MAP01 or E1M1? Unless the idea is to say "this is my interpretation of MAP02 or 12 or w/e," but I rarely, if ever, see that in wads that do this.

>>7265057
back in the day you'd do that to pick your preferred sky and music since replacing them wasn't so simple

>>7264958
I haven't played any Quake custom stuff yet, just base Quake and the two mission packs. So far HIP2M2 is the most memorable level for me, but as for tip-top favorite I'd have to do some replaying before deciding

>>7265069
>meanwhile, mormons
>maze bad dude
>id levels based
>bastard chasm
>downtown bullshit
>women friendly
>annoying sounds
>wanting interview
>consider rabbits
>fucked frames

wait a sec
>dk
Is this word cloud only for one thread?

>>7265095
>Is this word cloud only for one thread?
Yes, I did it with the previous thread, same as last time.

They're trying to take over quaddicted

The middle portion of Doom 2 is kinda rough.

>>7265057
Some people did it for the default midi and/or sky in the level, and couldn't be bothered (or didn't know how) to replace d_runnin or rsky1.
Some replace map07 due to reliance on tag 666/667.
Some replace map15 or 31 due to reliance on secret exit.
Some replace maps06, 11, 20, and 30 for the text crawl

It's not nearly as common anymore, as replacing midis and sky textures is a lot easier now than it was in the 90's, and source ports allow you to bypass the hardcoded map specific stuff with mapinfo and the like.

i am going to push your poopie in bitch

Fuck TEETH.

HacX is pretty good.

Kinda easy though. Is UV the right setting or is it a Doom 64 scenario where the hardest is the right one?

Also, fuck that one room. You know the one.

>>7265127
Good.

Can a photoshop guru use this base to touch this up: >>7261330 for wallpaper purposes?

>>7265127
>>7265257
Nope. Quaddicted's showrunner has been wanting for years to allow anyone to upload their maps, but hasn't yet found a method that would make him comfortable due to the possibility of someone going rogue, getting access to the database, and deleting decades of archived Quake material.

Is mouse movement with chocolate doom still classic? Was that an option back in the day?

>>7265280
Is this what you're looking for? Seems trivial to resize it.

>>7265319
I love you.

>>7265306
What do you mean? Using Y axis to move was a default for Doom, people had to use custom mouse drivers to disable it back then.

>>7265357
Oh I mistyped, I actually meant mouselook; so people did play with mouselook on? I want a pretty vanilla experience but looking around with the keyboard hurts.

>>7265293
Nice, no more 5-brush maps.

Quake movie adaptation when?

>>7265364
If you mean "mouselook" in controlling the X axis then yeah absolutely, people played it as such.

>>7265179
Bad Dream is cool tho.

Thoughts on Dr Sleep?

>>7265545
His maps help my insomnia.

>>7265131
To me, Doom II has always been a better creative platform than as a game

name ONE (1) (un) (ひとつ) WAD that nobody else but you has played

>>7265545
He was good guy. It's a shame he had to go so soon.

Are there any FPS games that go for the lovecraftian atmosphere Quake 1 has, retro or not? I'm sad it never really got a proper sequel it's very unique

>>7265670
My own unreleased ones.

>>7265679
May I see them?

>>7265685
subscribe to my onlyfans (first 5min free) and then you can see me making my wads

>>7265685
They're bad, anyway.

>>7265319
>>7265280
but why are the bombs so angular?
even more so since they are designed to roll

When I try to start Spear of Destiny mission pack 3 in ECWolf, it just starts me off in regular SoD, anybody else have this problem? MP2 works fine and my MP3 files are all correct, same exact checksums as on the ECWolf site and named correctly

Can't wait for 500mL

Does anyone know any good heavenly textures that mesh well with original doom 2?
I know Otex has heavenly textures, but they look way too pretty.

>>7265802
might be able snag some from hexen or heretic that works idk

>>7265781
Same

i have secret of win

>>7265818
i’rn nukern3d

If only you could talk to these creatures, then perhaps you could try and make friends with them, form alliances... Now, that would be interesting.

What's the design decision behind all the key hunting in old FPSes? Was it to encourage exploration?

>>7265884
>hey hows it goin'

>GLEEEEEEEEEEEG ROOOOORRRK

Is Accessories to Murder + Ketchup still the gameplay mod to beat if I want a universal but still punchy modded Doom experience? Like Brutal Doom but I don't want to touch it and be painfully poisoned until I die in agony?

I want to play freedoom with orginal doom graphics. Is there already made wad file for this or do I have to manipulate freedoom's wad file and change every texture, sprite and sounds with doom wad?

>>7265884
play battlespire

Can I somehow rip widescreen HUD from Russian Heretic/Hexen (pic related) or is there an easier way to get them? I wanted to replay those games through Steam and wanna pick GZDoom to make it easier for myself.
>Played them first time on DOSBox, so I'm not familiar with source ports at all.

>>7265902
>>7265962
He's quoting the old review, that bashed Doom because you couldn't even ally with the monsters.

>>7265069
>based in the centre

Based.

>>7265670
aBRASION.
wondering if anyone remember it.

>>7265884
>>7265968
Maybe because the reviewer was too impressed at Ultima Underworld? I don't know...

>>7265884
What demons would be capable of speech and not just animalistic grunting anyway?

My guesses
>Archvile
>Spider Mastermind (telepathy)

Baron of Hell are high up in the Hell order but they don't seem like the talking type imho.

The rest are too alien or beastly. The possessed soldiers maybe?

>>7265982
>Vorox esco marana!

>>7265968
No that you mention it I do remember reading this at some point.

joke still stands

>>7265918
that, or weapons of saturn
i love that rocket cannon

>>7265884
An RPG with the faction system of Fallout New Vegas but in the Doom universe actually could be cool

>>7265990
My method of communicating with the cultists

>>7265949
Delete everything you don't want then load it as pwad on top of Doom's iwad
If I recall correctly you could also load Doom2 as a pwad on top of Freedoom1's iwad and vice versa
Just don't delete every texture because the designers have added more textures that weren't in the original

>>7265884
This reminds me, recently I saw a video from a popular game reviewer and he mentioned people have a tendency to unfairly judge as though it were a completely different kind of game. Instead of seeing a game for the good it does, they instead harshly criticize it for not being a different game they want it to be.

I know at least one person in here knows what I'm talking about, try not to make a scene.

>>7265967
They’re in heretic-common.wad

So, if I take Impie's recent mod and just change all text lines in it to make it about killing Trump supporters at DC and then post it on ZDF, do you think they'll ban me?

>>7266047
Iunno, do it.

>>7266034
Just like I thought. I guess the easiest way is to just look at how I can rip them from there.

Thanks.

>>7266048
Nah I'm all talk and no action.

>>7265364
Moving the x axis with mouse was an option from the very first version, however Chocolate Doom DOES patch the mouse input slightly so that it feels smoother than vanilla Doom. Being able to aim up and down with mouse wasn't an option until source ports came about.

Contrary to popular belief however, the game was NOT structured around the player not being able to aim up or down - you could adjust your view using the Page Up and Down keys, and could do that to snipe platform enemies, it was just much more cumbersome.

>>7265678
Heretic, Hexen, Strife (to a lesser extent).
Arcane Dimensions mod.

Realms of the Haunting and Undying for nice Victorian era style games.

Blade of Darkness (not FPS) wins the best nailed medieval atmosphere out of any game for me.

>>7266060
Aiming up and down was added in heretic, no?

>>7266060
You can not use Pageup/down for looking up/down in the original DOS Doom. It seems you are confused with later games that allowed that, like Dark Forces and Rise of the Triad etc.

>>7265982
Barons and knights would talk like savage orcs. Imps are articulate but talk in weird accent. Zombies are gibbering.

>>7265982
Hell Knights go WeeW

>>7266078
based

>>7264947
>thread starts with mock 2
>no one talks about mock 2
ebin
mock 2 is probably unironically my favorite doom wad, almost every joke hits and it's still funny
>soundtrack that ranges from stolen midis to literal ear rape to the indiana jones theme
>map titles like unhappy meal/ur a fag
>random map that asks for your a/s/l
it means a lot to me, bros
https://youtu.be/NW75UzSrdrk

>>7266103
Lots of things you love will be forgotten by everyone else. Smile at your memories.

anons, I know this is not thread related (or maybe is), do you think going full throttle with c++ professionally would pay in the future?
my country is in a constant explosion, I'm unemployed, I need dollars

>>7265131
Eh, I think its only Factory and Downtown that are outright bad out of the middle levels.
Inmost Dens, Industrial Zone, Suburbs, Tenements, and Courtyard are some of my favourite maps in Doom 2. Citadel feels like Sandy forgot he was making a Doom 2 map for most of it (wouldn't be surprised if he started it during Doom 1's development), but I don't hate it. Gotcha! is my least favourite out of Romero's Doom 2 maps, but still decent, and has that memorable fight with the cyberdemon and spiderdemon.

What if you make a wad with zombiemen who attacked like chaingunners but still had 20 hp, and the shotgunners had the same hithpoints as chaingunners, and wore similar looking armor?

>>7265319
>3 times the gung
>3 times the fung

>>7266149
Modeled after Lo Wang.

>>7265891
Old fps recognized that keys and locked doors have great design potential. Off the top of my head: keys and locked doors serve as a reminder where to backtrack, making spaces more memorable and allowing them to be used for multiple purposes. Keys serve as a carrot without immediate or fluctuating benefit, the player will always want a new key even if they don't know what it's for. Locked doors indicate an area exist without actually showing it, creating mystery. Multiple locks or keys can be used to communicate nonlinear progression. Keys allow for more flexible difficulty options by tieing progression to a movable object. The number of keys you have can be used to gauge how far you are in level. This is true of a lot of things, but keys can also be used to reinforce a setting or tone (like keycards vs skullkeys). Probably other things. I'm guessing a lot of them were just copying Id but at its best I think keys are a great way to enhance the navigational aspect of games.

2 shotguns barrels are better
But are 4 barrels too much? Whats your maximum number of shotgun barrels before it starts treading on the feet of other weapons fighting for design space?

Yes, that map pretty much is what you think it is from the image.

So Temple of the Lizard Men V came out, and I've never played any of them. I played through Lizardmen I-IV over the course of a few days.

And I'm just baffled their existence, and the volume of it.

It's just surreal. I'm just burning with questions for the author. Why did you spend a decade making the same three maps over and over again - Jungle. Cave. Temple. That's it. Over a hundred times. Over thousands of hours in DEU and Doom Ed.

I'm sure any reasonably creative individual would be burning for a fresh theme after a project, but not this guy, just more and more Lizard Men.

The very first map I played the REMAKE of TOTLMI, I spent 25 minutes looping the map because the key door was located in an area AFTER you pick up the key, and impossible to be seen before you've already found the key.

The key/hunt/switch/whatthefuckdidthatdid hunts just a nightmare at times.

There's a workman like quality to the maps. They're functional, keep to the formula, and look nice enough. The author has the biggest hard on for Unreal. I just don't know why he doesn't make Unreal maps if he's so committed to recreate it in Doom.

>>7266175
Keyed and lockpilled

>>7266192
>Yes, that map pretty much is what you think it is from the image. So Temple of the Lizard Men V came out, and I've never played any of them. I played through Lizardmen I-IV over the course of a few days. And I'm just baffled their existence, and the volume of it. It's just surreal. I'm just burning with questions for the author. Why did you spend a decade making the same three maps over and over again - Jungle. Cave. Temple. That's it. Over a hundred times. Over thousands of hours in DEU and Doom Ed. I'm sure any reasonably creative individual would be burning for a fresh theme after a project, but not this guy, just more and more Lizard Men.
>The very first map I played the REMAKE of TOTLMI, I spent 25 minutes looping the map because the key door was located in an area AFTER you pick up the key, and impossible to be seen before you've already found the key. The key/hunt/switch/whatthefuckdidthatdid hunts just a nightmare at times. There's a workman like quality to the maps. They're functional, keep to the formula, and look nice enough. The author has the biggest hard on for Unreal. I just don't know why he doesn't make Unreal maps if he's so committed to recreate it in Doom.
Ftfy. Paragraphs are a dying breed.

>>7266179
4 seems silly. It's not futuristic. A futuristic military shotgun would be like an AA-12, something fully automatic. I think you could keep the SSG, and in your map design, make it such that the SSG is the "default" shotgun. Then, just modify the combat shotgun so that it shoots a lot faster and change the sprites into an AA-12 or something.

If I change the sprite of a monster, does that also change the monsters hitbox? like changing the spiderdemon sprites to something smaller?

>>7266228
No you need DeHacked or Decorate for that

>>7266228
no

I'm getting filtered by REKKR E1M3. How are you supposed to beat this? There isn't any ammo anywhere, and axing the floating eyes seems like suicide

>>7265884
Are you quoting the dude who wished for a Tomb Raider sequel to have Laura loose her tits to cancer?

>>7266243
Man, Edge magazine hired some of the most joyless motherfuckers in the world to write for them, huh?

>>7266179
Do twin AA-12's
https://youtu.be/WOoUVeyaY_8

>>7266192
The author has claimed he used to be a huge porn addict and the maps were basically an excuse to engage his torture fetish

>>7266228
Sprite size does not affect hitbox size.
Revenants have a shorter hitbox than their sprites would imply, for example.

>>7266179
4 barrels are for pooftas and nonces.

>>7266175
I feel as if Chex Quest, Dark Forces, and I know I may get some flak for this, but same with HeXen, sure it sucks for a switch/key hunt however, I feel as if HeXen for the most part got over zealous with the design everything around a switch/key hunt as it did. Pretty sure other boomer shooters at least understood what keys really entailed but I feel like those were the ones that stood out on top of my head.

>>7266240
>REKKR? More like FILTR! Revae's awful map-design doesn't hold a candle to the masterpieces I made almost 30 years ago, not to mention the stellar work I've done on Sigil! Drink my knob, bro!

>>7266362
Nah you won't get flak for it. Nobody likes the key hunts in Hexen except masochists.

https://youtu.be/aXWj_apjeHE

>>7266383
fall doom guy

>>7266367
>FUNNL

>>7266429
Forgot your pic
>>7266243
>>7266246
Sounds like NaViGTR:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3JUrhh9VC8

Help im still stuck in year 1964 (different mod though)

>>7266459
Heres a dumbest feature ever implemented - you can climb up theese electric poles only to get fried by the power cables...

>>7266478
Nice swimming pool

>>7266540
Enough of bumbling around - help is needed in the launch silo...

>>7266459
>>7266478
hello Q2fag

also i suggest that you should check Quake 2 Earth

>>7266545
Nevermind, everyones dead

>>7266556
Still gotta mount that iso of that ancient german Q2 disk from one of previous threads
>>7266623
...Real shame that this Guard wasnt inside the guard-post for a better effect...

>>7266636
Heres the missile launch site - better not to shoot this anti-nuke missile prepped inside the silo too much...

>>7266648
...Or else its gonna be me who ends up nuked 8'/

>>7266648
i love this screenshot, it kinda reminds me of a sin map

>>7266652
The modeling is not bad, texuring is not terrible...

>>7266654
Its carefully modeled after a real counter-nuke missile base (projet codename Nike - hence the mod name), apparently theres also a Quake1 version of this map too...

>>7266681
>>7266674
Since the faster way down via ladder has a TankCommander at its bottom, I'd better choose the stairs

>>7265321
mad joseph joestar vibes on the bottom right
looks like a jojo pose

>>7266192
Theyre fun wads dude, no reason to overanalyze it.

>>7265781
What's that?

>>7266383
Cacostume is so cute.

>>7266685
i kinda wish that someone could pick these old maps and upgrade their textures

also since you are playing 3.24 and kmq
check this
https://leray.proboards.com/thread/3511/ref-soft-colored-lighting-ddraw

>>7266383
now i wish lbp wasn't dead, so we could have had sackdoomguy and materials based off doom textures or some tools that allowed players to simulate first person in the levels
specially because lbp3 had like 13 layers and with the top down-like levels you could do, it could fit doom not having room over room or something

Does the "Doom 2 monsters in Doom 1" mod work with enemy based mods that affect enemies?
Like, Colorful Hell and stuff that changes or replaces Revenants and Archviles, do they do the same with the monsters, even with taht D2inD1 mod?

>>7266685
Inside the silo is realistically mapped out, but I cant get the extra missile prepared for launch - looks nice tho...

>>7266797
Heres the problem, I shouldnt really be here first - I have skipped the radar targetting procedure and now the missile launches about 10 seconds after I will return here...

First I must go thru administration area - living quarters are decently recreated from the real thing - sorry for the wonky graphics, looked better on my end...

>>7266812
Lost pic - must be the texture intensity settings wrongly interpreting bright colors as a light source

HOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

...No toilet in sight yet - have theese public shower stalls instead...
>>7266742
Looks very interesting - almost like Unreal

>>7266828
try that on the next map
this is BATF entrance with it

>We want a kino map in our wad
>I know just the guy

>>7266839
Real talk though
BTSX EP3 for how neat and everything is, i fear it's going to be hell for the texture pack, with the variations and everything in between.

Why was PowerslaveEX based off the Playstation version instead of superior Saturn one?

>>7266851
yes

>>7266826
Attack of the daemon tomatos...

Attack of the daemon tomatos!

>>7266828
Administration area is almost cleared - Radar targetting station is next...

>>7266880
Getting heavy Shock2 vibes from the lighting in that room

>>7266880
...make that five radars in total - just like in the real place

>>7266897
Jesus fuck I love this game.

I am mad arkane are a bunch of useless faggots and their shit does not even have an oun ce of the charisma looking glass games had.

>>7266903
Main radar dome - gonna take a look inside...

>>7266913
...sadly picture got darkened from RGB enchancement option - also damn Gunner wont let me focus...

>>7266919
Brigtened up a bit via higher texture lightmap intensity

>>7265321
What a fucking useless character.

>>7266913
>>7266919
>>7266923
its stuff like this that makes me wish that Q2 had more mapping projects, pair that with lazarus and you get some insane shit

>>7266908
Its sad noone tried to make an unofficial SS3 (and avoiding the legal BS by for example having it based on the BioShock1 early design concepts) in any form yet
>>7266919
This is like the 4th time ive seen a bathroom recreated in a Q2 mod made around 1999-2002

>>7266923
Radar is locked on target - no idea what it is though, must be one of those UFO's the opening narration talked about...

>>7266956
Missile launch sequence will start any second now - had to noclip to make it in time...

>>7266943
its a badly made shitter

>>7266851
The dev said the Saturn version was too hard to reverse-engineer

>>7266965
Mission accomplished! no cool music this time unfortunately...
>Link for anyone interested check it out:
http://www.quakewiki.net/archives/nike.planetquake.gamespy.com/nikeq2/nikeq2.html
>I mentioned there is a Q1 version also:
http://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/nike.html

>>7266994
a Q1fag should play the Q1 version to make a comparison

Why is the SegaSaturn's Doom version such a choppy POS if either the Duke3D and even Quake ports are fairly smooth???

>>7267010
because Saturn Doom us the JAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG port

>>7267010
The Duke3D and Quake ports for the Saturn ran on the SlaveDriver engine (which was made specifically for the Saturn, so it was very optimized)

>>7267010
John Carmack has been blamed for nixing them wanting to use a renderer they felt more suitable for the hardware, which supposedly gave very high performance (they claimed it was as much as 60fps on average), but he didn't like it because it caused too much texture warping in his opinion.

He has admitted some fault for this, though consider that nobody has actually seen this build in action but him and the port devs, and that the Saturn port was actually a ridiculous stupid mess in quite a number of ways which has nothing to do with rendering graphics, so for all we know the port was much the same as it was now, while running faster and everything looking like gelatin in an earthquake.

I honestly don't buy that they were getting a consistent 60fps on average when no other FPS on the Saturn did, not with clean and good looking graphics.

>>7267052
I believe them. Maybe it was just 30 but they clearly did some great stuff with exhumed and duke.

And Doom maps are not as complex.

>>7267062
Doom's Saturn port was not developed by Lobotomy Software, I'm 99% sure.

Do you know any maps that have platform you are on sink into damaging floor that ends the level? An amusing prank I never actually saw happen.

Fuk somebody mod this shelly into into ion fury.

>>7266047
>Stray Zog

>>7265967
I decided to give Russian Heretic another try and I'm stuck again. Even though I'm well aware that Chocolate Doom creators aren't fans of "Steam hacks" (launching their port directly from Steam), but tried to push in anyway. Figured out how to make music work, but every time I try to launch it through Steam I get this error:
>W_GetNumForName: FONTC_S not found!
Everything launches just fine on its own. I suppose I should either try with Chocolate/Crispy ports, setup DOSBox (no widescreen then, sadly) or make GZDoom not so scuffed. Which is sad since Russian port seems really good and cozy.
>Why the hell would you care about Steam?
Playtime.

>>7267083
Alien Armageddon my dog

>>7267106
I actually dont like the sprite he used there. Neither for the girls, it looks like a very basic shitty 3d render.

>>7267106
that mod is literal burl dewm for duke, and seeing ecelebs shilling is proving the old "if they shill it, its bad"

I have 11 maps, but only 7 of them are properly balanced. Should I polish the other 4 and release a proper first episode or should I just release 7 maps like I originally wanted before I started making more?

>>7267116
I can vouch for it. Its a nice twist on classic duke, and has some really cool maps.

Also a slide that very meshes very well with the kick.

its good.

>>7267083
On that note, it'd be neat if someone made a 2000s-era DNF-like game or mod with the Q2 or Unreal 1 engine. I dunno how to explain it, but DNF was essentially supposed to be, more or less, a somewhat linear fast paced shooter with worlds and locations that were heavily interactive where you'd do interconnected minigames and scripted sequences inbetween the shooting and killing that would somehow extenuate the >bad assery of the protagonist (i.e. Duke in DNF's case) one way or another. There was that one Duke 3D mod that attempted that, and it was prolly done well (haven't played it much if at all), but having one that was truly full 3D would be really fun in my desu opinion. That and the idea of a "DNF-Like" FPS game would be interesting, especially since DNF was supposed to build off of the stuff 3D did.

>>7266047
>ZDF
was?

>>7267112
its far more easier to you to use the existing sprites and edit by yourself

>>7267116
Have you actually played it?

>>7267150
played thorugh youtube and i hated it

>>7267142
Yeah shame Duke was so badly managed. Duke 3d was a blast we deserved a fucking decent sequel.

But the thing is 3D engines were not there yet. Maybe it would have looked a bit like sin even the models and maps, that while good they are not what you could pull off in build.

I know they wanted to use UE1, which I bet would feel jank as hell, something about UE1 felt weird outside the main game.

Like Undying and Deus Ex feel kinda clunky.

>>7267159
I cant tell anymore if some people are trolling or actually just that stupid.

>>7267167
>they wanted to use UE1, which I bet would feel jank as hell,
Funny you say that, cus the final version of DNF used a heavily modified version of UE1.

>>7266903
>>7266923
>>7266956
dang, those look good

Between valian, eviternity and ancient aliens, which one is the easiest? I want something pretty and not that hard.

Finished episode 3 of Eviternity. Definitely felt like an improvement over the first two episodes. Didn't particularly care for any of episode 1, and Map10 was the only episode 2 level that stood out to me. Probably helps that Episode 3 started using the new monsters more liberally, and actually felt like it wanted to provide a challenge.

>>7265781
Glad to hear it man, I'll make sure it gets done this month. I know you guys want to get cracking on the plutonia project, sorry for impeding on that.

>>7267245
Honestly, that's just fine with me, it gives me plenty of space to get a map done for "Project Titty", after which I can do something simpler and more straight forward for Protons

>>7267206
IMO, Eviternity is generally easier, but does spike hard in a couple maps, like map32
Valiant and Ancient Aliens are harder on average, but still nowhere near Ribbiks/Dannebubinga stuff.

>Doom 64 ports lets you turn off the N64 style bilinear filtering
Nice.

Your face when you first made that trip into cyberspace?

>>7267279
NO. NOT HOW THE DEVELOPERS INTENDED. TURN IT BACK ON.

Another WTF one from DondeQ2's history archive - "Dr. Atomic vs. the Hitmen" TotalConversion (AKA Panic - allegedly starring RZA as "Bobby Digital"):
https://dondeq2.com/2020/03/12/atomic-pop-panic-dr-atomic-vs-the-hitmen-quake-ii-total-conversion-mod/

>>7267303

>>7267301
Is this why you couldnt actually swim in this game?

>find out someone made a Splatterhouse fangame in GzDoom; Splatterhouse 3D
>"Awesome!"
>check it out
>there's no music

>>7267318
You're thinking of TekWar, that's Hacx

>>7267301
I thought to myself "what the fuck were they smoking"

>>7267124
Depends on what you want. If you just want to drop something really high quality that will be DL'd a lot. Go with the polished 7. If you want zoomworld cred. More seems to equal better so idk.
On a personal note (sort of unrelated) I don't really like megawads. It's almost an automatic skip for me. When I see "32all new maps" I expect it to be effectively a whole game. A cohesive theme (maybe a brief plot) with a carefully curated ebb and flow of intensity and mechanics. I have very little interest in peoples hodgepodge of 50 different makers, random mismatched environments and quality. No disrespect intened but its just a hard pass 90% of the time.

What if, Instead of saying "come on everyone gather around and slap some shit together". Fully fledged, realized and polished maps were made first and THEN feelers were put out to create a megawad. Consider it a bit of pre- baked quality control. Its like the difference between a compilation album and a mixtape. Or a greatest hits vs an "unreleased tracks" mix. the /vr/ or doomer board projects feel like albums. zoomworld "2nd week of march project 459" just comes off as shovelware

>>7267343
>>7267309
dafaq

>>7267343
Reminds me of system shock 1

>>7267343
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?

No seriously WHAT WERE THEY FUCKING THINKING

>>7267386
I get tons of system shock homage from this game. And shadow warrior. And quake too. They literally straight lift textures from quake.

It also reminds me strongly of Ion Fury. The entire premise is almost identical. Evil corporation making android robots. And you walk around witnessing the factories manufacturing them all. And the meller weapon in both is a taser. IF definitely took from HacX

>>7267419
>blinking lights maze
Oh god

Where do I go to play Blood MP or DM? fresh supply never has servers up

>>7267419
>>7267424
TekWar's Matrix section is a million billion trillion magnitudes worse, let that sink in.

Playing Doom 2 for the first time. Just made it to map 9. Are the maps really short so far or is it just me?

>>7267489
The start maps are short and sweet but get longer and harder. That's what she said.

>>7267495
Very good. I'll just continue blazing through them in Ultra Violence. Really want to try Quake 1. It catches my interest for some reason.

Take the Master Levels pill.

>>7267512
Note: Doom 2 really dips in the middle quality wise and then picks up again. You'll know when it's going to shit when you hit the city level.

>>7267516
No thanks, I'm not constipated.

>>7267519
I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.

>>7267532
>t.couldn't find the yellow kew in Vesperas

>>7267516
I'm slowly making my way through them. They're not nearly as bad as people say, although there was one crusher trap in Black Tower that pissed me off.

>>7267541
*yellow key

>>7267489
I'd say most iwad levels tend to be 5-10 minutes in length, with plenty of the early levels being even shorter. TNT does have a few that can easily take upwards of 20 minutes, though.
I find that most pwads usually are on average 10-20 minutes per level, with maybe some early levels of an episode being closer to 5-10 minutes, and occasional rare map thats 30-60+ minutes.

>>7267354
I always wanted to make a megawad, but I work to slow to be sure I finish it. It's already been 10 months or so since I started, kinda eager to release something at all. But 11 maps would make more sense since it's there'll be an intermission and sky change and everything.

>>7266848
Considering E3 is also likely going to be more diverse in themes compared to the previous episodes, I wouldn't be surprised if E3 ends up having to have a C wad.
I remember Essel saying that theres upwards of 6000 textures total made for BTSX (This is more than OTEX!), and thats not even counting the flats. This well exceeds the 4046 lump limit, with BTSX having to replace every sprite with palette corrected versions also contributing to why they already had to have a B wad with E1 and E2.

>>7267581
Do it man, I hope I didn't dissuade you at all. Just ranting really lol

>>7266926
Laputan machine

What Doom mods use this monster?

>>7267871
Project Brutality has hierophants, but not that exact version.

>>7266240
All those little dudes are ammo. And you can axe most of them. What skill level are you playing on?
And don't axe the floating heads, no. They blow up. You can escape the blast, but I don't recommend it.

>>7267871
This dood was in a Heretic wad but i cant recall the name.

>>7264949
Corruption Cards updated to 1.0
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=67939&p=1178053#p1178053

>>7267323
Nevermind, it was made by a chud.

Playthrough video of map17 of 2048 units of /vr/ is up. The author has a distinct "modern" mapping style that did not change from 300/200/100 minutes of /vr/. Good level.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EazXMfM78Fc

DOSBOX Blood or Fresh Supply?

>>7267963
BuildGDX

>>7267871
I just found it in Temple of the Lizard Men.

>>7267963
nblood

>>7267963
DOSBox > Fresh Supply
With that said, try out BuildGDX and NBlood to test out the two modern source ports. IIRC they are identical except NBlood can play the music packs and BuildGDX can customize the difficulty settings.
I unironically prefer DOSBox out of nostalgia (I remember playing douk without vertical mouse look) and because, curiously, the original Blood difficulty settings are broken - if you save and load a game on skill 5, the enemies' damage gets dropped to at or below skill 1 (but the enemy count remains the same), and if you save/load on skill 1, the enemies do the same damage or more than they would on skill5, so you can do this to achieve a similar affect from BloodGDX's custom difficulty settings

If you go the DOSBox route, check out the SoundBlaster MIDIs. To disable CD music and switch to MIDI, edit BLOOD.CFG and change music device to 6:
> MusicDevice = 6

If you want to disable autoaim, launch the game with the -noaim parameter, although I recommend that if no-autoaim and vertical-mouselook are priorities to you then just use a modern port since I only use autoaim when running DOSBox out of nostalgia.

Hopefully you're not using the auto-launcher that comes with One Unit Whole Blood. If you are, you should download DOSBox and learn to launch games yourself so you can customize resolution in setup.exe among other things

>>7267963
bloodgdx

>>7268054
>I remember playing douk without vertical mouse look
I remember somehow configuring douk to have a proper, non-inverted mouse aim back in the day. I've spent a long, long time looking through the SETUP.EXE, and it worked like ass and I had revert back to KB only, but still, do not underestimate a kid with nothing better to do.

>>7268108
Hmm I think it's as easy as toggling it on/off with the U key. I don't think I used it because it was weird to back then, too uncontrollable, it was only an option so that you could shoot those hidden switches, an option more precise than PgUp/PgDn

>>7267926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8BTD7up0UE

im liking what im seeing

>>7268131
Nah, it was inverted if you do it that way.

>>7268148
dang, thats awesome

>>7267962
How in the fuck did you get to the soul sphere?

>>7268175
You can toggle that in setup. I play inverted myself but I have no idea if that is the default or not

>>7268204
There is a switch on the backside of the pillar with the rocketlauncher on it

>play the formgen Spear of Destiny expansions
>they're actually great
Why does everyone hate them again?

>>7268219
wolfenstink flatness

Guys I don't feel so good...

>>7268237
Haven't DOOMED in years and pistol starting this with fast monsters is tough

>>7268239
That level has barely any health and no good powerups. I skip it when doing nightmare deathless runs of E1, whereas I go to the secret level on E3 because you get 100 rockets.

>>7268270
I'm playing on UV with fast monsters and it's kicking my ass

>>7268275
Beat a level on UV with 100% kills and secrets and no saves before you attempt fast monsters. Fast monsters is too difficult to play blind.

>>7268284
That's good advice actually; better than having to resort to youtube videos to beat a level. Think I'll give that a go, thanks.

Mephisto's Mausoleum > Icon of Sin

Eviternity 21 drops us off hot in Hell

>>7268469
zzzzzz

>>7268475
I like to play through entire mapsets before I finish my decisions.
When you find a shotgun and the chain shit falls apart

lads, im going to bed but i'll leave all of you with the now pcx friendly waifu maidens
because i finally found a way to convert the upscales back to Q2 and its stupidly simple

>>7268494

>>7268494

>>7268505
This is the only one of these to make me laugh

>>7268494
if everything goes right, which will, then i'll put it here an updated pak with the pcx in it

>>7268483
This is hard cos there's just hitscanners and revenants fucking everywhere

>>7268521
>>7268494
>>7268504
>>7268505
btw the 1st waifumaiden was on 3.24 with the software patch on Q2cafe

the beta waifu and this are on yamagi software

accidentally posted this in the Doom 3 thread because I just search the catalog for "doom" lol

Can we compile a list of FPS protagonists that have the name [game]-[noun]
-Doomguy
-Postal Dude
-Duke Nuke them
-Duskdude
-Doomslayer [kinda double dipping]

>>7268557
Drake Mynobb

>>7267961
fuck off back to trannyworld or zdilation forums.

>>7268573
No way, this is where I belong now.

>>7268573
Trump lost. Cope.

>>7268582
>>7268587
based, but don't feed the trolls, just report and hide.

Cranium maps infuriate me.

>>7268596
Don't post Racist Warrior, chud.

>>7268504
I don’t found that funny but perv get what coming.

>>7268603
OH, LOOK! YOU COMING APART!

>>7268605
You know what else coming? My peenus into your mum's vay-vay.

>>7268557
Quakeguy didnt have the "ranger" name until Quake 3.

>>7268557
- KEKKR
- CUCККR
- NIGGR
- FAGGR
- PIDR
- SODOMIZR
- BUGGR
- POOFTR

>there are ""people"" in this thread who unironically enjoy slaughtermaps

>>7268635

>>7268635
I made a 6 map mini-wad of all slower paced levels that the player is meant to walk through, and everyone made fun of me

>>7268635
Bruh if you don't think Sunlust has interesting enjoyable encounters (which do feature slaughter in parts) then I think that says more about you as a player than the people you're trying to make fun of

>>7268640
>>7268642
Based and Doompilled.

>>7268641
Link

>>7268582
lmao whatever you say nigger

>>7266994
Quake 1 fag here. This is legitimately the worst Quake map I have ever played in my entire life. I used to think that I couldn't tell a good map from a bad map, that I just enjoyed Quake so much that pretty much any new content was enough to make me happy but this map has proved that I was just fortunate enough to play the best maps out there. Though if you have already played the greats like Arcane Dimensions, Zerstorer, Rubicon, etc, then I actually recommend you play this map just to see how horrible it is in comparison and give yourself a true appreciation for the classics. Also you could get some "So bad it's good" style entertainment out of it from laughing at how terrible it is.

It starts out constantly giving you new story text you don't give a shit about every single step you make, even while combat starts which is obnoxious and really distracting. Next section of the map is pitch black, I can't see shit and I'm being pelted by hitscanners everywhere. I have to go into the options menu and crank the contrast to maximum just to see anything. I go to a building, I can't open the doors, I swing at it with my ax, the door literally explodes. This is how every door on this map operates, you have to attack it to blow it up. So I go through every building that all looks and feels the same, I chop open a door, there is a grunt inside, I switch to shotgun, shoot it twice, leave room wash rinse repeat. This map takes the super enjoyable combat of Quake and turns it into a tedious chore.

There is no enemy variety whatsoever. None. Just grunts. Oh wait no there was ONE dog enemy. They could have at least thrown in an enforcer or two. Something. Anything. Holy shit. There is no weapon variety either, just the shotgun, nothing else. Needing to carefully manage ammo may have made this somewhat interesting but you are flush with it throughout the whole map because the only enemy type is also the one that always drops shotgun ammo unless gibbed.

>>7268635
Slaughter is the pinnacle of Doom gameplay. You just need to be good enough at the game to enjoy it.

>>7268708
I wouldn't say it's the pinnacle. It's certainly an important pillar of Doom PWADs, but it's not the only one worth exploring. Challenge maps for example are not necessarily slaughtermaps, though they do have some cross over sometimes (see: Sunlust).

>>7268703
Also, the map is flat as fuck, there is no height variation whatsoever which adds even more to the tedium. When I got to the third section of the map I couldn't find all the objectives to open the slipgate and did not give enough of a shit to bother finishing. It is split between 3 loading screens despite the maps being very tiny.

The positives:
There are a couple enemies in guard towers so I actually had to aim up 2 or 3 times
The addition of objectives was cool
There were some functional ladders, I don't remember the base game having any of those.
The one dog enemy

That's it.

>>7268708
This. "level design" is a crutch phrase used by people who want easy gameplay.

>2014 had BTSX E2, Going Down and Resurgence
>2015 had Sunlust and Valiant
>2019-20 had no big megawads, the last one was Eviternity in Dec 18
Bros, the community is dying... All those "what are we still waiting for" megawads are vaporware, they're never coming out. All everyone makes nowadays is grindy OTEX-textured, Cacoward-baiting single maps.

>>7268718
I know you're just shitposting, but if you unironically think slaughter gameplay is just dumping you in a map with a BFG with no thought put into encounters, then you're just deluding yourself

>>7268719
I just discovered a map from 2020 for the Eternity Engine called In Search
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/117985-in-search-eternity-engine-map-demo/

You fags should play Mothership. This map is extremely good
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/m-o/mothership

>>7268703
>>7268716
You gotta look at contexts my man. I haven't played it yet, but it sounds like a cute little romp. I played Sadklark8 a while ago, it's a rather flat, Rogue texture-based map in an Egyptian temple. It's chock-full of printed messages that aren't necessary, but it's like...it's like young dudes making maps for the first time and trying out stuff. I don't think the Sadlark guy, or this Nike guy were trying to make AD. They were just having a laugh.

>>7268737
Also, as a fellow Q1fag, what did you think of ter_shib_drake? I keep coming back to it, and I think it's becoming my favorite fan-Quake episode.

>>7268719
Here is a 2020 pwad. It's Scythe-inspired and has short, challenging maps. I rank the difficulty below Scythe1 Episode3, but the levels look similar. It's the same red hell textures as Doom E3 and Scythe E3
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/114527-glaive-2-a-difficult-scythe-inspired-mapset-final-release/
Anyway, my point is, there are still good maps being made. 32-level megawads naturally can take years to create.

>>7268635
>how dare people enjoy things I don't enjoy.

>>7268752
honestly there was a plague of slaughter maps for a couple of years.

>>7268719
Doom Community has had big name megawad droughts before. After 1997, community didn't really do anything huge until Alien Vendetta in 2001, for example.
I'm sure things will sort itself out soon.

>>7268719
...Doom Zero?
>Bros, the community is dying
Oh, shut the fuck up. If it dies, it'll be because turds like you don't take up the mantle of mappers past.

>>7268719
Don't worry, I'm sure Mordeth will release this year.

>>7268719
Making megawads is a giant waste of time when single maps or short episodes (using OTEX, of course) are just as likely to win Cacos.

>>7268780
>He thinks people map to win Cacos
Anon...
This is not true for the big majority of mappers. Notable exceptions I guess would be Bridgeburner.

>>7268780
>People make maps solely to win cacos
You're nearly as bad as he is.

>>7268783
>>7268786
I can smell Cacobait from the opening post on DW.

>>7268783
How did Bridgeburner get so popular anyway? He only does ZDoom-compat stuff right?

I checked out Bastion of Chaos out of curiosity and it seems like the dude has no understanding of how to make interesting encounters. He seems to think detailing, high res textures, and fancy dynamic lights are the priority, and the actual fights are a complete after-thought that would never be playtested without frequent use of saves.

>>7268804
People can be good at bells and whistles but dogshit at hanging them up, but you're making a mistake about the "frequent use of saves" comment. That's not inherently an issue, unless you record demos, which the majority of the Doom community does not do.

>>7268807
>but you're making a mistake about the "frequent use of saves" comment. That's not inherently an issue

Anon, demo recording has nothing to do with this. If you design an encounter that you the author can't beat without savescumming - not because it's challenging or skill demanding, but because of heavy reliance on RNG and not enough resources - then that's called "you need more playtesting". Not "let's ship this baby out right now".

>>7268809
>If you design an encounter that you the author can't beat without savescumming
But is there proof this dude can't beat his maps without savescumming? Even the creator aside, are you sure there isn't just a gap in knowledge? The vast, vast, vast majority of people in the world absolutely would not be able to beat Plutonia, or Serious Sam TFE without savescumming. If one of these people called Plut or Sam untested, that wouldn't be the case. They simply lack the knowledge of enemy spawns and secrets.

>>7268804
Bridgeburner got popular because:
>Streams 10 hours a day
>Shredded as fuark and mogs other Doom streamers
>Metal always playing in the background
>Homeboys always on voice chat
>Sexy accent

>>7268812
>But is there proof this dude can't beat his maps without savescumming?
Have you ever seen the dude play his own maps? If you haven't, there's plenty of VODs on his channel showing so

Yes, I'm pretty sure there isn't a gap in knowledge. I'm not a good doom player, but I've been able to beat a couple of megaWADs (including Plutonia and Sunlust) without saves. I'm pretty confident he just doesn't understand how to design encounters. He just kind of shits monsters all over a section and calls it a day.

>>7268809
This isn't new. Insane_Gazebo isn't even good at Doom and probably can't beat half of Sunder's maps. He just floods encounters with shit until one of his dickriding playtesters gives it the ok.

>>7268809
>not enough resources
If this is the case, then no amount of savescumming is going to help.

>>7268829
>then no amount of savescumming is going to help
Oh, but it is.
You can simply load saves until you get better in-fighting RNG. You can load saves until you dodge every projectile perfectly, so you don't need as much health or armor.

>>7268826
>but I've been able to beat a couple of megaWADs (including Plutonia and Sunlust) without saves
Good enough for me. I trust you.

>>7268828
This is the key difference anon, he actually has playtesters. The encounters actually get playtested through several iterations, and they get refined and tweaked. It's not just about making pretty lights and effects with metal music in the background. There's people behind the scenes like seasoned speedrunners and old guard players giving advice. And most of all, it's not ZDoom-compat only.

>>7268826
>but I've been able to beat a couple of megaWADs (including Plutonia and Sunlust) without saves
>Sunlust without saves
Post God Machine demo/recoording or it never happened.

>>7268830
If it only takes a few reloads to get good enough rng to win, chances are, it wasnt that there wasnt enough resources, and more just that the player needs to learn how to better utilize whats been given to them.

>Play a map a thousand times just to say they did it without saving
Do recoorders really?

>>7268843
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcXHg-Wu36A
1100 times

that's not me but indeed i repeat maps to beat them saveless

it helps to actually like doom and the map in question

>>7268840
saying "plutonia and sunlust" as if they are comparable accomplishments makes it clear the person is BSing

meanwhile ribbiks has youtube videos of platforming and he's so absurdly good at it that his maps start to make more sense ...

>>7268846
that's 1100 attempts at d2all, that doesn't include the practice beforehand

>>7268850
Show me your Plutonia UV -max demos.

Greetings, everyone.

>>7268719
doom zero, 2048 units, and hellevator were all wonderful, to name a few

also many good short wads, like wormwood eu

>>7268750
thanks anon, this looks cool and i'll give it a shot

>>7268858
i didn't save demos but i'm getting in the habit now, especially since something like dsda allows multiple ghosts for the lols.

>>7268861
2048 units when?

>>7268869
someone should send him black crest as a user submitted level

Ion Fury - 2019

>>7268873
Soul

how does one get and play HACX?

I asked this before but got no satisfactory answers so ill ask again

Whats quake source port has the best netcode? I wanna try hosting a Quake Team Fortress server, mainly a port forwarded one from my own pc. Though I would like to know where to get a dedicated one

>>7268861
Pretty sloppy, don't you think?

>>7268719
I hate these "bros..." posts with this weird melodramatic tone. Shut the fuck up faggot, were doing fine.

>>7268881
OP's "so you wanna play quake" infographic has relevant informations.

>>7268912
I wanted to ask incase the infographic was outdated somehow

>>7268909
It's almost always someone new who does this.
Le wrong generation.

>>7268881
FTE has the best netcode + a ton of other useful settings. It also has roughly the same compatibilities as Quakespasm Spiked, though you can't get the graphics *quite* as crisp looking.

>>7265127
Why can't they just wget Quaddicted, and make their own clone? Why is it so hard for them to create something of their own?

>>7268871
Eggplant will reach black crest soon.

>>7266941
There are people making singleplayer maps for Quake 2. It seems to be someone called a "vicpas" that collects said maps and puts them on ModDB. I was surprised to find there are now slowly being made maps and units. It's probably caused by the lockdown.

>>7268635
You're supposed to play them in multiplayer my boi

>>7268719
2020 alone has 20+ megawads. Indeed it might be the year of the most megawads ever. wtf are you talking about?

Doom 64 actually looks awesome bros...

>>7266367
>ANON? More like FAGGT!

>>7268871
I remember some guys sent him 2048 maps when he was taking submissions, but they were probably too late.

>>7268987
It is :)

>>7268992
>I remember some guys sent him 2048 maps when he was taking submissions, but they were probably too late.
Yeah, his method of acceptance was flawed, I think he said he's going to do things differently next time.

>>7268774
haha he looks cozy in that hoodie

>>7268987
doom 64? more like coom 69

>>7268719
>>7268807

>>7269179
Literally nothing wrong with what I said.
>But is there proof this dude can't beat his maps without savescumming? Even the creator aside, are you sure there isn't just a gap in knowledge? The vast, vast, vast majority of people in the world absolutely would not be able to beat Plutonia, or Serious Sam TFE without savescumming. If one of these people called Plut or Sam untested, that wouldn't be the case. They simply lack the knowledge of enemy spawns and secrets.

>>7269196
He's calling you out for using a shitty feels guy mutation.
Faggot.

>>7269198
t. recoorder.

I generally play my own maps saving between encounters. I don't think single segments are necessary beyond self-imposed challenges. That said, I don't usually do something completely random.

>>7269201
See now why you gotta double down on acting like a faggot? I don't even know how to record demos.

>>7265127
>fw
Is that that tranny who makes autistic looking, dogshit maps?

Oh shit why haven't I played Descent before, it's so fucking good.

>>7268635
Just play on a lower difficulty if you think they're too much.

>>7268641
I might be interested in that, I have a pretty cautious/defensive approach to Doom where I clear corners and stack up doors and stuff (though when the action really gets going, I'll run and gun), so I don't mind if the pacing is a little slow.

>>7268719
Jesus, kill yourself please, this is the /doom/ thread, not the /doomer/ thread. This thread alone got some pretty decent shit done just in 2020, and we're looking at more for 2021.

>>7269262
Waiting on the Blood project to play, waiting on the Quake project to participate.

>>7269240
Descent is that one game everyone knows and says is good but people just don't want to play. I'm included in this, grew up always seeing Descent games on store shelves thinking it looked cool but I never bothered to pick one up. I only wish I picked up a flight stick as theyre overpriced as fuck now

>>7269264
You could always start your own long time Quake project, doesn't have to be a speedmapping thing, you could just start making a map now, and then people have until 2022 to submit a playable level, under your stated parameters (and they can update and revise the levels to perfect them in response to criticism when needed).

You could end up with a respectable set of a dozen levels. A slow boil can be a good thing sometimes.

>>7269272
Too novitiate to start my own project, but I am enjoying learning Trenchbroom a lot. I'd like to head up some projects with themes/gimmicks someday, but not soon. Gotta learn the rules before you know how to break them.

>>7269196

I play everything in WOOF with a pet cacodemon and no can stop me

>>7269323
Based and Cacopilled.

>>7267309
can't find a way to download it
wayback machine doesen't have the file archived

>>7268909
>I hate these "bros..." posts with this weird melodramatic tone. Shut the fuck up faggot, were doing fine.
bros... is he retarded?

>>7268909
Uh oh looks like we got too cocky bros!

>>>/wsg/3746917
zscript crimes
abhorrent

>LUNAR APOCALYPSE? More like SHITAR SHITOCALYPSE! What were they thinking with a full episode of samey techbase when yours truly did a much better job with KNEE DEEP IN MY ASS!

>>7264947
Is DX1 modding questions allowed? If so. Is it possible to mod in the FMVs from the PS2 port and replace the cutscenes that the FMVs replaced from the PS2 port?
Just something I am curious about since I wonder if UE1 can allow something like that.

How do I play Hexen 2 nowadays?
Everyone seems to be using Hammer of Thyrion, but I heard that UQE Hexen 2 is better (although not sure how true is that). I think I know where to get CD music (or can just stick with MIDI; It's not a bad option, right?) and Portal of Praevus - I suppose its better and easier to get RIP version for game from Steam.
>"The Ultimate patch for the Steam version" is too messy and contains a lot of unnecessary things I don't want to bother and with no option to pick what I actually want to install.
Thanks in advance and I apologize if I miss something about it in main post. I tried my best to find anything Hexen 2 related there, but failed.

>>7269437
it is anon

Mentlegen, the possibilities are limitless!
only if it worked for Q1 too...

>>7269479
original for comparison

>>7269479
>>7269487
the upscale original too

>>7268861

i love decino's info dump videos and hes good at playing the game but god damn i find his commentary boring. dude is the most boring guy on the planet. though others see his calm demeanor to be heckin wholesome i just see the most autistic dude trying to do public speaking. no hate but i skip the playthru videos

>>7264949
[1-6] A. Lighting seems rather flat. Have some sector light variation with corresponding ceiling light flats.
B. Razor walls might be ok for Wizardry, but they don't look good here.
C. Walls need some trims where they meet at different angles. Study the original maps and dtwid.wad to get some idea.
D. You have long ardous journey ahead to become competent at making maps. Releases like Return To Saturn X and Sunlust have raised the bar so high, but id tech 1 is still the easiest engine to create maps for, I think.
Onward and outward anon. I wish you well.

>>7268958
He's in for a real challenge. I think it's seriously the best map in the set.

>>7268987
It's really very good. Not perfect in all ways, but a must play for any fan of the classic games.

>>7269496
maybe try a more recent one, he's more comfortable now.

i adore his playthrough videos

>>7264949
Dunno if its newsworthy but someone released a "remastered ready to play" pack for Q2 with no engine limits and so on
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/downloads/quake-2-ready-to-play

>>7267961
I don't give a fuck about that. A Splatterhouse Total Conversion for GzDoom could be really cool, but part of what makes Splatterhouse cool (besides the grisly violence and disgusting monsters), is the really groovy music.

It'd be like making a Castlevania TC without any music. Hell, I don't love the new music in Playstation Doom and Doom 64, but it is in fact a soundtrack intended to evoke a certain atmosphere, and to a point it succeeds in that, it doesn't leave you with no music at all.
Doom 3 had a gnarly as fuck intro theme, which builds up your expectations, but then blueballs you with ZERO music after that, which is the game's greatest flaw.

I want to play as Rick Taylor, beefed up and with the evil mask, and I want to punch monsters so hard their heads explode, slam them into walls with pipes and two by fours, abort demonic fetuses with a chainsaw, cleave unnatural creatures in two with giant cleavers, and I want to do all of this while a mix of creepy tension music and heroic fight music plays.

>>7268219
I'd like to hear your thoughts as why you like them so much.

Any decent doom discords?

>>7269569
No. You're better off making your own with your own set of friends instead of trying to break into some existing clique.

>>7268642
I'm interested in Sunder, but glancing at it, it seems like it's way above my skill level, does it have difficulties implemented?

>>7269559
Neat stuff. That reminds me, I wish there was a mod for Q2 that enhanced the movement somehow, e.g. make it feel more like Q1 with proper air control or something to make it more interesting than a slightly watered down version of Q3's movement. Kinda surprised no one's attempted it yet.

Also I totally would attempt to do so if I knew anything about modding and had the time to learn how to do it.

>>7269468
Thanks, out of curiosity, how would it be possible to implement it?

>>7269561
>>>/pol/

>>7269559
Thanks for sharing, that guy posting his screenshots of the game has made me want to play it. Might want to back this up in case moddb decides to take it down though.

>>7268815
I haven't really heard him say anything interesting though, outside of some doom builder tips. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the guy, but the streams are pretty meh.
His levels are pretty, but kinda samey as well. Big pretty geometric area, pillars lower to reveals monsters... Kinda stuff. It's fine.

What's with the weird lashing out against demo files

>>7268807

I've been part of the community since the 2000's and I've genuinely never seen anyone shit on demos. Is it the new meme around these parts or?

>>7269626
One guy trying to force a meme, and not even a new meme, but yet one more mutation of endless worn out Wojak variations, he didn't even draw anything new.

Reached the ship in Equinox. Nice maps, can't imagine how much work this was.
Weapons are meh, music is pretty shit. Too much infighting. The backstory of final level music is interesting, he took it from a dead kid's website. The kid wrote it to be played at his funeral, and they played it.
The experimentation thing is a bit creepy, though I'm desensitized to hat stuff.
Green and white gets old after a while. Some areas are fucking HUGE. The hangar was pretty fun.

Smooth_Criminal.wad when?

MJ TC for Doom 2.

I really like Brutal Doom.It really is a breath of fresh air for a game you've played for nearly 25 years.

>>7267323
>>7269561
Just loop the music in the background using youtube or something
>>7267961
>>7269595
Shut the fuck up troon

My GZdoom has a 1gb file named 'A'@%' in the directory and keeps crashing.

Delete it?

>>7269703
T-this is not normal, anon. Download Cureit and check your PC

>>7269673
Haven't you heard? The troons won.

>>7269567
The new sound effects are better than the original game, most of the new graphics are nice, and the level design itself is engaging and challenging without being tedious like much of Episode 6 was.

>>7269217
No you're thinking of quasiotter. fw is an autistic tranny as well but his maps are at best, somewhat competent.

>>7268635
Slaughtermap can be so different. Example ancient aliens, eviternity, sunlust, speed of doom and going down are examples of fun slaughter gameplay. It's like the usual plutonia influenced gameplay in bigger size. Then there's slaughter that's just grindy and gives you too much or too less ammo. Just monsters slammed there and there without planning the gameplay. Shitmaps made by shit mappers, who don't have even skills to play their own levels.

Final Doom or Sigil to play next?

>>7269559
its just 3.24 with the ISO's in it

>nearly 60 hours in UT2004
>untold amount of hours in UT99
>have literally never played a mulitplayer match, only played against bots
>tfw 24 and didn't get into these games until both were dead

>>7269496
Generally speaking, I find commentated playthroughs boring if I have not played through the level. I like watching decino playthroughs of levels I've already beaten since it's not only amusing how he can usually beat everything on the first try but you can also learn from it by studying his movement patterns for example

One exception is his Valiant playthrough. I watched some of those videos, like Rocket Zone 2, before playing the maps, but I played Rocket Zone 1 (from Lunatic.wad) and it's probably my 2nd favorite map ever so I wanted to see RZ2.

>>7269575
No. You can play on skill1 for 2x health and ammo, at least.
>it seems like it's way above my skill level
It probably is
https://youtu.be/YVaYnzrOx5E
This one's actually not too bad. The hardest part is gettin a good route for the first room, IMO.

>>7269846
I'd say Sigil simply because it's shorter. Admittedly I never finished Final Doom; TNT got boring and Plutonia is hard for the sake of being hard, and I just keep finding new wads that are funner, like Mothership or In Search