/vr/ - Retro Games

I really don't get why they didn't just out 4 shoulder buttons.

PS1 made it a standard. Was it just stubbornness?

Isn't it kind of fucking how the gamecube is nintendo's only console with analog triggers and an ethernet port

For the longest time I thought that Nintendo controllers were made by the designs are ridiculous and they're just out of this world compared to every other design

>>7265196
People aren't perfectly symmetrical. They designed the controller to have more buttons on the most common dominant hand of their audience. Your dominant hand has more coordination than the other.

>>7265212
Ok cool, well now you're missing a button that PS2 and Xbox has. Good job.

>>7265192
This controller is a major improvement over the N64 controller.

>>7265228
along with every other controller

>>7265248
Except DS1, 2, 3 and 4 and SNES

>>7265192
>turns out humans only have 2 hands
How are you people so dumb. I swear to god, /vr/ gets more and more retarded every day I post here.

>>7265192
How did ports from Xbox and PS2 work on the GC if the GC controller was missing a button that the other two had?

>>7265192
this fisher price looking piece of shit.

>>7265268
I imagine this is one of the reasons a lot of third parties ditched the Gamecube midway through that gen, along with smaller media capacity and "kiddie" brand image compared to PS and Xbox

>>7265268
same way DC ports worked when it was missing three buttons and a stick

>>7265268
Not too great, the games definitely had an intended controller and it was basically always the PS2 pad. Even on the Xbox they suffered, tony hawk and GTA games have some weird binds you can't do much about on the Xbox. No exception on the gamecube either, considering it's missing select, R3/L3 equivalents, an L1 equivalent and has a shit button layout.

>>7265265
is that the first time you've heard this?

>>7265192
i hate the tiny dpad but atleast you barely had to ever use it

>>7265317
this triggers the nintendo fan

>>7265328
the only game off the top of my head that made use of it besides menus or less precise movement than the joystick is SSX3 but that game actually made good use of it

>>7265317
I'm surprised a three handed person exist. But why does the hand on the left have no finger nails painted?

>>7265317
It's a dumb meme that shows how ignorant you are.

>>7265219
Make that 4 (Select button is missing and analog sticks don't have buttons/aren't clickable).

>>7265201
Yeah, it certainly is kind of fucking.

>>7265317
What game are they trying to play?

>>7265192
Nintendo should just stick to software development like Sega decided to do. They are shit at making hardware, always have been and always will be.

>>7265192
>were nintendo's controllers designed by aliens?
No, they were designed by insecure retards who were still in denial over the fact that Sony had designed the perfect controller.

>>7265192
>oh shit, we forgot to put the handle on the C stick
I don't get what you're saying here. What's wrong with the c stick exactly?

>>7265447
Does it matter? My guess is WWF No Mercy, since both the D-Pad and the Analog stick does get use.

>>7265192
>>7265196
Nintendo thought controllers had too many buttons and intimidated consumers even though the PS2 launched a year before and did fine, even with normies who just wanted a dvd player.

The idea was to make important buttons stand out, blend unimportant buttons, and allow the mind to group buttons by varying color, shape, and size.

I'd say it didn't work. Not only was it not necessary but the asymmetry and garishness of it all makes everything stand out for the count. I think the only thing that worked towards their goal was the huge ass A button and sensible colors. Green means go red means no. Fucking baffling how few consoles got that right.

I think there's three things they should've not fucked up while still being consistent with the philosophy they took. Have a left Z because they were the least conspicuous buttons on the controller when viewed from the front and clutters nothing, yet it's not there. Have click sticks because they are literally invisible. And most importantly but a normal sized cap on the C-button. You can even keep it yellow with the little faggot C. They could have even released a revision of the controller with just that last change and probably undo a lot of the damage.

>>7265435
select button is a meme that should've never been started and shouldn't have shipped on controllers once they got 4 face buttons

>>7265452
Nintendo makes most of their profit by tricking you into buying cheap hardware at cost with gimmicks and games. That's literally their bottom line.

>>7265676
>faggot C

cuck C*

>>7265196
>PS1 made it a standard.
Nigga what? What other console at the time had four shoulder buttons? The Xbox didn't. The N64 didn't. The Dreamcast sure as hell didn't. Four shoulder buttons was still considered a weird quirk of the Playstation controller at the time. It didn't become standard until gen 7 when the Xbox 360 and Wii Classic Controller adopted it. Hell, the Gamecube having three was ahead of its time.

>>7265192
>oh shit, we forgot to put the handle on the C stick
What did he mean by this?

>>7265639
The thing that's ACTUALLY wrong with the C-stick and not a meme is that its deadzone is FIFTEEN FUCKING PERCENT. I use the Gamecube controller for PC games pretty often because its primary stick is so perfect (0-0.5% compared to my logitech disaster's awful 6% and square deadzones), but the C-stick zones are actual garbage. Assholes just wanted you to flick this thing in the games and didn't think of any other developer use for it obviously.

>>7265660
>Does it matter?
Yes, since no game on the system requires that you do that.

>>7265192
NOT RELATED TO OP BUT

now that the nintendo wii is retro is there a way I can configure dolphin to use a dual-shock ps2 usb controller to play wii games with? or will I have to buy a wii controller?

>>7265692
Actually, their bottom line is just making the same game over and over for decades on end.
Case in point: The entire Zelda franchise.

>>7266115
Except the AKI wrestling games.

>>7266396
You'd probably want something with a gyro because of how commonly that shit is used

I don't emulate wii so I don't know what the situation is with the pointing device

>>7265686
Select wasn’t even necessary on the NES.
>needing more than 2 face buttons

>>7266434
if you cant switch your hand from the middle to left gandle when nexessary you just might be retarded.

It's a major improvement of this shit

>>7265192
>left off one of the shoulder buttons
Four shoulder buttons were not standard at the time. Playstation had it, but Saturn and Dreamcast did not. The only reason it has a third button there is because without a middle prong like N64, they had to move the Z button somewhere.

>>7266412
Zelda changes all the time. Zelda 2 is completely different to 1. Ocarina made the transition to 3D. Windwaker had an all new art-style. BOTW went open world. And there are loads of spin offs in completely different genres, like Cadence of Hyrule and Hyrule Warriors.

>>7266461
>switch your hand from...
>doesn't know you can just stretch your thumb to the analog stick
>unless he has small hands
No need to switch handles when I could just reach with my thumb, thanks to my big hands.

>>7266435
thank you anon, I'll look into it.

>>7265196
Yes. Same reason they went with mini CDs instead of full size. Only to try (and fail) with another DD approach AGAIN.

>>7265454
>No, they were designed by insecure retards who were still in denial over the fact that Sony had designed the perfect controller.
100% correct, and they're still trying to push retarded gimmick controllers to this day

>every single modern controller is literally the same copy and pasted design

Take me hooooome country roooooads to the place I belooooong

>>7266678
>>every single modern controller is literally the same copy and pasted design
No

>>7266683
>Released 2015
>Discontinued 2019

You may ask yourself, "Well, how did I get here?"

Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by, water flowing underground
Into the blue again, after the money's gone
Once in a lifetime, water flowing underground

>>7266683
Literally the gayest controller ever made. Also the worst.

>>7266720
God, I fucking hate web comics.

>>7266683
.... Yea. They kind of are. I have one of those and I've never liked using it.

>>7266608
>mini CDs
zoom zoom