/vr/ - Retro Games

>Is a mister worth it
no why would it be

>>7234369
No, not at all mister. PC emulation is all you'll ever need. The Mister sure is a waste of money.

>>7234369
The lag is really low and you also have perfect accuracy, if you are a purist it's worth the money,
but if you are already happy with something that come close to original with software emulation, you don't need this.

>>7234783
>perfect accuracy

I love mine. Got rid of my famicom, nes,snes and genesis games because I'm so pleased with how well they run.

>>7235192
Someone gotta bomb the fuck out of Analogue's office for intentionally starting the "fpga means perfect accuracy" meme.

>>7235406
I'm not entirely sure it was them. Have they ever publicly stated this? I think it's either their marketing team posting anonymously in places like this shithole, or the kiddos trying too hard to fit in and picking sides in what they think is yet another console war.

>>7235423
Super NT was heavily marketed as a "fuck emulators, this is the real deal" thing, despite being itself an emulator box, just with a different architecture.

>>7235406
>fpga
Faggotry Programmed Gay Activator?

I enjoy mine, but I don't play it as much as I thought I would. It's expensive, but pretty worth it for what you get.

>>7235547
Oh, so they really did try to sell snakeoil. They're touting an emulation device that still hasn't quite caught up to software as the second coming.

>>7234369

No

Mike Matei owns one and recommends it.

>>7235628
Mike Matei got fired because he is a retard

>>7235628
Mike Matei is a faggot.

Just use the actual original hardware, I'm sure the life expectancy is still higher than this abomination.

>>7235645
>>7236303
Mike got fired because that fat kike runs the show now.

>>7236327
Who would the fat kike be? Last time I watched AVGN was when i was like 12

>>7236321
>Just spend a fuck ton of money gathering 5+ retro collectible consoles and buy the library for them

>>7236380
Yes. Stop being a secondary.

>>7236321
> I'm sure the life expectancy is still higher than this abomination.
Confirmed for having no fucking idea what you're talking about.

>>7234369
Its better than pc emulation.
Instead of sitting on a pc and messing around.
You just set it next to a tv.

>>7236334

>>7236604
I wonder who would take over if that kike ended up dying of Tay Sachs disease, Bone cancer or something?

>>7235628
Where is the video of him using it?

>>7236334
S̶a̶m̶u̶e̶l̶ ̶S̶i̶l̶v̶e̶r̶s̶t̶e̶i̶n̶ ̶ Justin Silverman and some other greasy fatasses

>>7236612
Ryan

>>7236321
>capacitors and voltage regulators will outlive solid-state digital SOC and FPGA board

>>7234369
>Is a mister worth it
If you want a tiny thing that can emulate a bunch of classic systems for an acceptable price, sure.
>Is it really better than just pc emulation
Nah.

>>7236626
voltage regulators are solid state

>>7236669
>Nah
Just objectively untrue

>>7236702
Prove it.

>>7236604
>>7236612
>>7236620
>>7236614
Would you retards fuck off with your autism fuel? Go use the youtube comments section on their channel, you pieces of shit.

>>7236406
Its not worth it. You're retarded

>>7236626
>capacitors and voltage regulators
you can change
>will outlive chink shit
yes
but fuck this, i'm a emulatorfag

>>7236747
>My 40 year old silicon will outlive anything modern

>>7236693
>voltage regulators are solid state
It's commonly known that the ones used in nearly all retro consoles, the NES, SNES, MD etc. are one of the first things to start acting up.

>>7236817
Yes, since a lot of modern electronics are extremely prone to failure.

OT but I inherited a 1940s radio using vacuum tubes and it somehow still works, despite being used daily

>>7236843
No dude you're just wrong. We're not talking about your good ol hemi or vacuum tubes here's. Stop being a moron about this. Consoles are already failing
Any long term collector or archivist could tell you that the consoles themselves aren't really an option

>>7236932
No they don't.

>>7236843
>atari 2600 isn't modern electronics because I say so
It is though. All that stuff is modern electronics and is made to the same low tier mass market standard

>>7236932
My 2 month old shit SSD failed because nobody gives af now. It's all cheap ass chink garbage.

fpga is only worth it for saturn since all software emulators have insane input lag and run-ahead is too hardware intensive to use.

>>7236949
gives af?

I have the consoles but I can't afford the games. Mister seems like the only option

>>7237042
A Fuck probably

>>7236406
I don't want to have fuckin five consoles all plugged in at once or have to bother juggling between them all every time I want to play but I also want good emulation

>>7237082
Muduh fugguh

>>7236669
Surprisingly chill take for this board.

>>7237459
Its wrong

>>7235561

/vr/ is the only place I've seen negative outlook on fpga. It seems to be an answer to a problem and it's fun to tinker

>>7236949
Get an hdd

Analogue really has been a blessing and a curse for FPGA here. Now shitposters crow endlessly about how it’s actually emulation, yeah no shit

>>7238304
but is it Better

For plug and play products, the Analogue stuff is pretty decent. The Mega SG, while probably not perfectly spot on, is damn good, and much better than the majority of software emulators out there, save for the highest end ones, and there's video documentation from Digital Foundry on this and others.

The real benefit is that it's fucking braindead simple to use, but still comes with a ton of amenities, like total cart compatability, CD compatability if you have one or one of the newer flash carts, you can fully edit the sound to your preference, and you can jailbreak it too, if you just want to play all the shit with no carts, including Master System and Game Gear.

In my opinion, it's nicer than fiddling with a bunch of emulators on PC, and it's only a little nicer than a Mister, in terms of convenience, but the Mister has more that it can do, though that then involves more effort, but it's not as endless as it is with PC (and saying that, I was still testing out various things with a billion different Saturn emulators the other day, all if which were inaccurate to the real thing, but at least had some memory tools for debugging shit and dumping, which you won't get on any FPGA console, not yet anyway).

All that in mind, it's all half steps to just playing on the real hardware, which is actually shockingly easy to maintain and repair, and some are made so fucking well that they'll outlive you if you keep them up. And there really is no better experience than playing in the real thing, except maybe in the case of the original PlayStation, which really needed a 2x resolution boost in almost every game.

>>7238335
The Programmer formerly known as Byuu disagrees though

>>7238343
Yeah but having one tiny console that can output hdmi while having really good emulation is pretty valuable compared to having to keep over five consoles around and the mister can do stuff like arcade gamed

>>7238404
The Arcade space is definitely the one place where Mister and emulation in general are great, although I would kill for a real Marvel vs Capcom cabinet with one of those awesome arcade multi-mode CRTs.

Those darksoft flash boards for CPS1-3 are very tempting, but even then there are analog options for these emulation systems, albeit occasionally esoteric.

For now I have to live with home ports of arcade games, which turned out pretty decent and with nice extras in a small handful of cases, such as on the Saturn and Dreamcast. Or Hell even the Neo Geo CD.

Are ODEs and flash carts worth it?

>>7238304
It's an emulation that works better than with a PC even if it is really powerful to run some emulators that ask more horse power to be accurate.

I don't know why people here are so much focused on Analogue and their products , the community has moved towards the MISTer long ago and it's the real thing to discuss when it comes to fpga emulation.

>>7238556
You're a shill. Fpga emulation is no different than pc. Stop buying overpriced toys

>>7238565
>Fpga emulation is no different than pc.
But it is different! It has unique bugs!

>>7238565
I'm sure you have tested the MISTer to tell that uh ? Just buy the DE10 Nano Terasic board, it's all you need to start, the rest is optional, only the SDRAM will be required for the neo geo and arcade cores, but the rest doesn't need it.

>>7238539
I like mine, and it will depend on the ones you get The SD2SNES (FXPAK Pro now) is very transformative for the SNES. The SNES had all these helper chips in the cart, that even things like the jailbreak for the Super NT won't run because it requires extra FPGA cycles.

This part year has seen lots of hacks that take advantage of those helper chips, making games like Contra and Castlevania and even Street Fighter Alpha 2 run better, plus there's lots of PCM audio developments and even the Super Game Boy is supported, so you can straight up load Game Boy games now, and play them in an official and fairly accurate way (with support for SGB 1 and 2 timings).

For Genesis, there's not as much of that, but the latest high end carts support CD emulation, so you can play CD games without needing the add-on or burning CD-Rs, and there's a lot of those CD games that are actually shockingly good or the preferred versions, such as Earthworm Jim. It also gives you direct support for Master System games on real hardware, and it can even emulate the FM Synth for some awesome audio in a lot of games.

The higher end NES carts offer the same kind of add-on chip support and mapper support to play more games, but I feel like emulating NES is a better way to go most of the time.

For Saturn, I definitely recommend an ODE or a Satiator. There are tons of games for that system, and so many that many people never have even seen are worth a good playthrough, and that Saturn scene is starting to pick up.

And of course, Dreamcast has a mod scene now too, so it's ODEs are useful, especially with a lot of new translations (for the Saturn as well this year) and the Atomiswave ports.

>>7234369
I enjoy the hell out of mine. Don't listen to the poor faggot PC Emulation crowd who add nothing to any community.

>>7238597
IIRC you need at least 32MB of SDRAM to run most console cores, the ones which work on bare DE-10 are Genesis, PC Engine and GBA (except for large 32MB games). Even NES needs SDRAM addon.

>>7235628
I don't believe Mike Matei owns one.

>>7235645
>>7236303
Aren't the PC Emulation Crowd so great and wonderful?

>>7236321
FuckingRetard. Go back to your mobile games and eMuLaToRs on your phone.

>>7236612
The channel won't last that long. I'd be really surprised if the channel lasts another two years.

>>7236745
You're poor and a drain on retro gaming as a whole.

>>7237062
Or... Flash Carts. Which Ironically also use FPGA. I have both. Flash Carts. And a MiSTer I built into a custom enclosure. I prefer playing PCEngine on the MiSTer than on my actual hardware. Which is a Briefcase setup that works perfectly. I also have a Duo-R, but it's fucked at the moment and doesn't read discs.

>>7238648
And that 32MB Ram Module is not around 25 to 30 dollars. Now that everyone is upgrading to 128MB the 32MB ones are cheap.

>>7237776
There are some people here that will only except a setup that is pvm and a scart cable. Nothing else will satisfy them.

>>7238582
based

>>7238737
What about those that only accept Piracy and Free PC Emulation? I don't see many Collectors causing problems here.

>>7238582
How can anyone shill for fpga when bugs like this exist
My pentium emulated better ten years ago
>>7238597
>>7238608
>>7238648
All shills for the mister mafia

>>7238897
MiSTer is an open project you fucking retard.

>>7238917
I'm sure it is fuckhead

>>7235628
>Mike Matei owns one and recommends it.
I'll TAKE 20!!

>>7235628
Mike Matei owning one, makes me not want to own one. Thank you for saving me money.

>>7239109
He doesn't own one. I've never seen him use one. He uses real hardware with Flash Carts.

>>7239230
Yeah what the fuck would a boomer out in the Midwest need a mister for? They have nothing but space and time to autistically keep track of their collections of knick knacks

>>7238597
The mister is literally worse at emulation than pc. Might as well get a pi

>>7239685 is this true

It's a very easy way to play on a CRT.

If you're not interested in using a CRT, I can't see why you'd bother with one, just use retroarch or something. But running modern computers on CRTs is a fucking hassle.

>>7235628
What?
Mike only recommends getting original consoles and games

The Mister rocks.It's not original hardware and it never will be, but it's still amazing in it's own right.

I've been running a GroovyMAME PC for several years, with Frame Delay set to 8-9, outputting to a 15kHz CRT - as far as i'm aware that's about as perfect as arcade emulation gets on the PC. But the MiSTer is an immediate and noticeable step above that, in terms of both input latency and video output. Which last means it's a big improvement over most if not all original consoles in that regard.

The main problem I have with it is finding HDMI-to-VGA adapters that work with the 15kHz Direct Video setting and can handle composite sync. I went through half a dozen from ebay/aliexpress and finally ended up using an old one i had in a drawer.

>>7240291
*consoles and arcade boards, TBQH. I've never seen MVS games look better.

>>7240059
Now that he's been fired from Cinemassacre he's going to have to cut some stuff, he's selling all the expensive stuff he got with AVGN money and sticking to emulation.

>>7240353
Are you retarded

>>7240291
If it's not original hardware what's the point.you can get original hardware + ode or flash cart for same price

>>7241220
Well, if you're not going to read the post, allow me to summarise?

The MiSTer outputs better video than the original hardware, assuming you set it up right. Added to which, arcade boards for good games go for a packet, and even the SNES ports of Capcom titles aren't as nice as the originals.

>>7241337
Oh, and the MiSTer can emulate multiple systems - which is so obvious i wouldn't bother mentioning it, but you did say you'd prefer to spend the money on a single original system + ODE, if i have the right.

>>7241343
Please don't mistake me though, i'm not about to get rid of my own original hardware and i'm certainly not suggesting a MiSTer is going to replace yours. However, I'm a total CRT autist, and I was extremely skeptical before seeing a MiSTer in person and trying it out for myself. It really is a cut above every other form of emulation i've come across, and i've tried just about everything - with the exception of the retrons because i couldn't look at one and not be sick.

>>7241337
>>7241343
>>7241383
Mister sucks ass. You're a shill
Like $200 for that shit

>>7241515
The MiSTer shill is trying so hard to sell his crap-ass product, that he insults anyone who are anti-MiSTer. Everybody knows PC does emulation better than any retro-pi/MiSTer/mini console.

>>7241659
This. Why do people want dedicated devices...for emulation? Just get the console what is this

>>7241515
>>7241659
I'm not shilling anything any harder than i was shilling for CRT's seven or eight years back. Which is pretty hard, sure.

I'm not telling you to go out and buy a MiSTer though. Repeat. DO NOT go out and buy one. But if, in the course of living your life in Burgerstan or wherever you hang, you get the chance to check one out, do yourself a favour.

>>7242035
>burgerstan
nigel confirmed

I see the poors have found another MiSTer thread to rage in.

>>7242035
Why shouldn't I buy one

>>7242091
It's more about not taking my word for it. I didn't, when a friend tried to convince me. If you're not into modding OG hardware, and not super into accuracy, just emulate on your PC.

If you think you might be into both those things, I'd recommend trying a mister out in a controlled environment first, with a few friends who are good an skeptical about it, and see what gives.

>>7242083
News to me, can you point them out?

>>7242135
>>7241515

>>7242135
Pc emulation is ass in comparison and modding consoles means I need to get 6 or more different consoles and their mods

>>7235406
If properly designed, it does.

>>7242159
Not it doesn't, perfect emulation is asymptotic. Which is splitting hairs, but perfect is as perfect does.

>>7242156
Ass in comparison to what?

>>7235547
It's not a emulator box. It's straight up a HDMI SNES. It leaves nothing to be desired. I don't like the way Analogue does things too, but to deny the quality of what they released is stupid.

>>7236669
The Mister doesn't emulate anything
>>7237776
Because this website is mostly used by animals who aren't tolerated anywhere else on the internet.

>>7242163
It's not emulation. Try your hardest to stop being dumb. It would improve your life a lot.

FPGA emulation will never surpass software emulation in latency due to the existence of run ahead.

>>7242171
Yes it does, douchekit. Learn how FPGAs work, and keep your mouth shut about subjects you don't understand.

>>7242239
You're wrong and you know it. Atleast i hope you know it, it's better for you to be lying then actually being this stupid. Because if you are, holy shit. Can you even wipe your own ass?

>>7242165
See the comment by The Programmer formerly known as Byuu at >>7238582

>>7242243
Why? It means nothing. It could be fixed like plenty of other problems have. Then that is gone and all the other problems with emulators remain. Byuu has being salty about the fpga solutions making his hardware intensive emulator less needed for a while now.

>>7242212
I really, really wish this was true but run ahead causes other issues and doesn't always work properly.

>>7242250
These idiots don't understand the difference between PC and FPGA emulation, especially when it comes to MiSTer. A MiSTer is a specific piece of kit and any problems that arise can be fixed and applied to all MiSTers with very lean code. PC emulators need to solve for millions of configurations, which change everyday, hence the need for golems like runahead - to gloss over the fact that PC emulation is fucking retarded in a world that now has dedicated hardware for emulation. FPGA is an attempt to replicate the original hardware with dedicated resources as opposed to a bloated piece of software sitting on another piece of bloated software that is competing with all the other pieces of bloated software holding together the Frankenstein PC. FPGA only gets better over time whilst PC continues to fight against the tide bloatware.

None of this makes any difference to the casual gamer, but those raging about the MiSTer aren't casuals, they are straight up retards who should know better.

>>7242306
Amen. But again, fpga emulation isn't a thing. You refer to it as fpga implementation or hardware replication. It's not emulating anything.

>>7242250
Analogue had the gall to advertise their Super NT as a 'reference quality' SNES replica. Years later it still has unresolved bugs which are not present in the real SNES.

FPGA-based emulation only attempts to replicate original hardware. Traditional emulation can be better than original hardware if configured correctly.

>>7242371
Such as?

>>7242321

That's semantics. A SNES is a SNES, anything else is an emulation of a SNES.

didn't Mike Matei recommend it?

>>7238608
>Satiator
err wut? its $10k on the website

>>7234369
Runahead exists. Real hardware exists. Hell, Alanlogue exists. The Mister is the 4th choice.

>>7242570
Are you retarded? The mister is the best option out of all those aside from real hardware and real hardware has big downsides

>>7234475
>PC emulation is all you'll ever need
If you have really low standards

>>7237776
>/vr/ is the only place I've seen negative outlook on fpga
That's because /vr/ has no money

>>7242636
Runahead can be more responsive than real hardware for most systems.

>>7238343
>much better than the majority of software emulators out there
No, it's much better than all software emulators if you're playing anything that isn't turn based

>>7242636
Runahead makes the Mister obsolete. Sorry.

>>7242819
False

>>7242636
This is the truth, though Analogue consoles do have the advantage of cartridge support

To all the runahead guys in this thread can you tell me which cores it actually works properly with because I keep going back to try it and it pretty much breaks every core I try or at the very least the game has bizarre audio issues.

>>7242819
What the duck does that even mean

>>7242831
have you used a mister

It's not worth it
But yes it is more accurate than emulators. It's as close to an original system you can get without the original system.
Once FPGA's are more affordable and the market grows and the older actual consoles die off and the cores are updated to the point accuracy is as good as can be
Then there remains no purpose in owning the original beyond just for show.

>>7243075
What if some is already emulating via PS Vita or a PC, and already owns the original consoles "just for show"? There would be no reason for anyone to buy an "FPGA" device.

>>7243083
>PS vita emulation
lol

>>7243075
The og hardware will outlive us, the only point of owning a mister is for show

>>7243083
They don't value compatibility or having a single system then.
I don't personally like emulating on PC because PC for me isn't for gaming, it's for media and 4chan. I don't have the mental willpower to actually emulate on PC because its too distracting to be a click away from 4chan or whatever.
So I got myself a famicom and hooked it up to a crt by my PC setup and it's really nice to have both seamlessly set up like that. But if I could've chosen an FPGA instead I would've because it'd be guaranteed to have good video output unlike this AV mod I got which ended up having jailbars. And with FPGA I can use any input. No lag. No scaling issues or anything. Compatibility has come far enough accuracy is as good as it can get practically.
So I don't see why I should prefer some shitty Vita or my shit posting machine when I could get a separate machine that does the job better and more smoothly

>>7234369
It's a meme for people with too much money and too little brain.

>>7242254
It does not. Pray tell, how do you determine how many frames of runahead should you use?

>>7243093
>Muh accuracy is more important than losing muh virginity
Alrighty then.

>>7243091
Why do you think this

How is /vr/ enjoying their FPGA N64/PSX/Saturn and later emulation?
Is Breath of the Wild as nice as it is in 1080p60 like I have on my PC?
>>7242159
If we're talking hypotheticals, then software emulation *can* mean perfect emulation too. It doesn't exist for either.
>>7242250
"Total accuracy"
"It could be fixed"
Nice cope.
>>7242254
Eventually someone will make libretro boot on raw hardware without the OS and you'll get run-ahead *and* low latency. Oh and also all the nice enhancement features like resolution upscaling and PXGP.
>>7242451
The example posted a couple posts up for one. Their bug tracker with dozens of issues in it that have gone unfixed for years as another.

Mister isn't expensive what the fuck are people even talking about? It's $200 for everything I shit that out on bad fast food in a month.

>>7234369
>muh fpga meme
it's like $400 for a mister setup, all it does is play the same gays that emulators run on your pc
>but muh accuracy
it's no better and sometimes it's worse than a free emulator

>>7242254
1 frame causes literally no issues.

>>7243441
ok moneybags

>>7243442
>No better and it's worse
Proof?
>$400
Nope

>>7243415
>Eventually someone will make libretro boot on raw hardware without the OS and you'll get run-ahead *and* low latency.
what about lakka? never really tried it, but it's basically a extremely stripped down linux distro that only runs retroarch

>hey guys why is this three year project slightly less accurate than the culmination of thirty years of pc emulation development
>how could this be

>>7243478
How is it less accurate

>>7242832
>>7242971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qys9sdzJKI

>>7243485
It’s not really but people here post the mister update log as some kind of gotcha as if this isn’t a relatively new project with constantly evolving hardware.

>>7243490
>Muh techtuber
K I don't care

>>7243456
>proof?
just visit the forums and look at all of the complaints, every core has issues. face it, your meme box is outperformed by chinese android computer-on-a-stick devices that plug into your hdmi port

>>7243493
mister is trash a shill mafia trying to get that far fuck your $400 for cheap Chinese garbage that'll break before the actual old hardware its emulating

>>7243495
literally some random, cope

>>7243498
nah thats fake as fuck

>>7243503
Can you make a little price list so I can see where you’re getting $400 from?

>>7234369
It costs money and is worse than PC and real hardware, so no. It's just autistic shit for autistic people.

>>7243519
don't forget your accessories, goyim!

>>7243519
>335+70
it's just mental gymnastics at this point

>>7243550
Do you also complain about PC prebuilds? What an inane argument. Buy the DE10 off Amazon for $150 and you just need to build your own ram or pay some dude to build it for you. Done

>>7243498
>Somebody had a problem with a game 6 months ago therefore it's worthless
What the fuck is it with hatred for the mister here?

>>7243564
Imbecile you don’t need an IO board or a case especially not the most expensive case on the market. You’re like a toddler

>>7243574
it's a meme device shilled by jews, it's no better than a free emulator. if you defend your $400 meme box you're literally a manchild pedo. also it's the SEGA MASTER SYSTEM, GET OVER IT.

>>7243590
Are you okay anon?

>>7243569
>Build your own ram
Lol

>>7243590
but pc emulation of this stuff is still shit all this time later. The mister is genuinely something special
Also PCs are gay. They're for work, 4chan, and media

>>7243596
Yes
https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Main_MiSTer/wiki/SDRAM-Board-Assembly-(DIY)

>>7234369
I can buy all retro consoles I want + one of these bootleg 1000 in cartridges with the price of one of these and have a better experience.

>>7243609
>here's a little pc you can hook to your tv so you can play sonic the hedgehog in your living room like a 10 year old
we get it, you never grew up. go outside.

>>7243620
Do you know where you are?

>>7243590
New Year's Eve was yesterday, anon, you can lay off the sauce now.

>>7243616
How much do you think a mister is because that's just not true

>>7243615
you can't build ram shill

>>7243620
As opposed to playing it on your PC like an adult? What? How delusional are you

>>7243760
Around $200-300?

>>7243764
Did you click the GitHub page? And how do you shill a diy project are you really that dumb?

>>7234369
it's just a scam

>>7243793
Who is scamming who? Idgi mister is just a project name not a singular entity you guys are yelling at ghosts

>>7242516
You are wrong

I think emulation is fine for most of the older game consoles. MiSTER seems to be showing itself as the best way to emulate arcade games using an FPGA. Though Neo-Geo is suppose to be really accurate recreation too. I think it depends on what you want to emulate. There's so many optional ways to emulate games now. There's no need to go "all out" on FPGA unless you really are going for something specific. A PC/ Laptop is still the best way to emulate games. Even an older second hand i3 or i5's can make good candidates. Download retroarch to your phone/ tablet. Mod a game console or mini console. Build a SBC (Orange Pi, Raspberry Pi), or even get a Raspberry Pi 400 or something. There are lots of options. Most give you similar results.

>>7243083
>>7243089
Here it is. This os the tier of pleb who shitposts about fpgas. Jesus fucking christ.

>>7243415
I wouldn't wait for 64 right now, maybe in the future. But PSX is right around the corner.
>Eventually someone will make libretro boot on raw hardware without the OS and you'll get run-ahead *and* low latency. Oh and also all the nice enhancement features like resolution upscaling and PXGP.
Holy shit this guy.

>>7243807
>selling pirated stuff
scam

>>7243925
Who is selling pirated stuff lmao
You’re the dumbest poster I’ve talked to and I browse /tv/ occasionally

>>7243807
>>7243791
Its literally a product you buy

>>7243910
Wrong

>>7243968
>Wrong

About?

>>7243976
PCs suck at emulation

>>7243964
Do you call all the people evangelizing runahead PC shills? It’s the same shit

>>7243994
>PCs suck at emulation

My old I5 2500k is still is better than any current Raspberry Pi or modded game console at running any emulated game. I have Linux installed as its OS and use it primarily as an emulation/ web browsing machine for my TV. I can run everything up to the PS2 era with little issues. Some sometimes certain software set-ups do get better results.

>>7244024
Same
Mister is a joke
If you use a mister you are STUPID

>>7243478
Are you seriously that much of a brainlet to not understand why? The three year FPGA project gets all the knowledge of the previous 30 years of software emudev upfront for free, because it's all open source.
Look at me, I'm a genius for learning calculus in a year at college, unlike those losers Newton and Leibniz who took most of their lives to figure it out!
>>7243574
Mister is fine. They don't pretend it's "total accuracy, no emulation"
>>7243919
>Holy shit this guy.
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=255551
Give it time. Someone will come along and do the work for Danny boy to take credit.
How do you think FPGAs get their low latency? Magic pixie dust? Cut out the OS compositor, audio mixing, multi-tasking and input buffering and software emulation will serve up frames just as fast.

>>7244117
Mister is closing perfect emulation better and more consistently than pc emulation

>>7234369
It's very worth it. I go for the analogue consoles because i collect the actual games, but if you don't care about that, the Mister is the better value by far and it'll only get better.

>>7243441
It's way more than 200

>>7244302
It doesn’t have to be

>>7244317
Yeah I guess if you steal one

>>7243098
>It's a meme for people with too much money and too little brain.
the mister is a perfectly logical and affordable option for someone that wants this and doesn't already have the other options. if you already made the plunge on something similar then it kinda doesn't apply to you. you should be looking at things through a lens that knocks out like 30 fucking birds with one stone, that's why i like the raspi. just an example, that's all

>>7244229
Exactly this OP. If you don't plan on using the cartridges the Mister is the best. If you want to use physical games, go for the Analogue consoles.

>>7244326
DE10: $150
SDRAM:$60
OTG USB HUB:$5
Heat sink and fan:$10

Whoa $225, much more than $200 you’re completely right

>>7244639
You forget
>In line power switch (because the piece of shit has no built in on off)
>WiFi or Ethernet adapter for system updates
>50 dollar IO
>50 dollar case
>RTC add on

>>7244705
You don’t need any of that it has its own Ethernet. All of those other things are convenience and other nice to haves.

>>7244718
>A case is just a "nice to have"

>>7244705
>>RTC add on
Who the fuck even uses RTC on Mister nowadays? It grabs time from the net when you power it on.

>>7244774
Fuck you

>>7244762
>weirdo that hates the mister and would never, ever buy one is an expert on what parts people should buy
Don't be that guy, anon.

>>7244802
So what you're saying is that a case is unnecessary?

>>7242516
1chip snes confirmed emulation in/vr/

>>7244936
It was confirmed long before this thread.

>>7244929
Different anon, but yes, the case is totally optional. You only need it if your roommates are allergic to the sight of raw PCBs or if you have cats.

>>7236843
>being this stupid
Every console has some kind of major design flaw and issues that come up. Arguable the best designed retro console is the genesis model 2. You have to be some kind of stupid to thing old electronics are reliable

>>7244936
I have no idea what you are trying to say.

>>7244945
>complete gibberish
>phone poster
Yep.

>>7244929
It's a single board computer for tinkerers. Nothing is "necessary".

is it better than a raspberry pi? no? and it costs three times as much? and all of the proponents are pedo manchildren from twitter? ok then it's a meme.

>>7244936
Nintendo made the SNES. The 1CHIP was an edit of their original design files. It's a revision. The Super Nt and MiSTer were based off software emulators, which were made by *not-Nintendo*, which were built on guesswork and reverse engineering. They're emulators. When the MiSTer is based on a transistor-level remapping of the entire SNES, then it will be a bootleg clone, not an emulator, like the NES on a chip is.

>>7244117
>How do you think FPGAs get their low latency? Magic pixie dust? Cut out the OS compositor, audio mixing, multi-tasking and input buffering and software emulation will serve up frames just as fast.
This is false. The different architecture will always mean things are different. You can bs all you want and come up with some possible theoretical way it could be the same - it ain't happening pal. Not unless it's the same architecture or otherwise one to one hardware - ie. FPGA in the first place.

>>7242371
>Analogue had the gall to advertise their Super NT as a 'reference quality' SNES replica. Years later it still has unresolved bugs which are not present in the real SNES.
Those "bugs" are due to things like (natively) scaling the output for HDMI, they are not to do with playing the game itself you tard. They couldn't be, because the Super NT is literally a SNES in its input and output.

Imagine having to explain this shit in 2021 to people who I assume are past their teens.

>>7245068
>is it better than a raspberry pi? no? and it costs three times as much?

A Raspberry Pi 400 may be a good option here. It is a variation on the raspberry Pi 4, with 4GB of RAM in a chicklet style keyboard case shell, for $90 (base) to $130 (with mouse, cables, etc). Find a Playstation Classic for cheap, get an OTG adapter and a 64GB USB stick and softmod it.

I think FPGA has its place, as it can be a good way to recreate actual hardware. Not shitting on it at all. But it is a little more costly for some, and there are cheaper alternatives that can still produce good enough to great results for those who don't care about perfect hardware emulation.

>>7245126
>You can bs all you want
As can you, apparently.
>Those "bugs" are due to things like (natively) scaling the output for HDMI, they are not to do with playing the game itself you tard.
https://github.com/SmokeMonsterPacks/Super-NT-Jailbreak/issues
25 open bugs, 135 closed. At least half are game bugs.
>because the Super NT is literally a SNES in its input and output.
Are you just pretending to be retarded now?

Fun fact: nobody has ever done a scientific comparison for input lag between an FPGA and retroarch cores.
Why? Because anyone who has the mental capacity to configure Retroarch would never consider getting scammed by mister and the like.

>>7245162
>perfect hardware emulation.
No.

>>7234369
I have yet to find a neo geo software emulator that even comes CLOSE to mister's neo geo core. Fags that tell you otherwise never played on real hardware.

Fun fact for you ignorant retards: just because you played metal slug for the first time on xbox 360 doesn't mean you know how original hardware looks and feels

>>7245814
Timestamped pics of your original hardware and copy of Metal Slug or you're larping, kiddo.

>>7243615
How do you build ram that makes no sense

FPGA is a cult of scammed victims, much like Star Citizen fanbase. Reasoning with them is futile.

>>7245814
This.
Poor/cheap opinionated idiots with low/no standards for anything in constant need of self validation/justification always get super extra butthurt when ever they see FPGA being brought up, seems to be the same insecure losers that also hate CRTs, real hardware and flash carts.

You just know these are the cunts that emulate with fake shitty scan-lines, 2xSai and a 16:9 stretch with OS/DSP overhead inherent uneven frame/sync pacing and 50ms+ round-trip latency, desperately trolling every corner of the internet trying to convince everybody that "heh bro, it's JUST LIKE real hardware bro, FPGA/CRT/Hardware are lying homophiles!!!1!".

Why are lazy/poor/cheap/lowbrow/mouth-breather idiots always like this? I mean, at this point they're putting more time and energy into defending and maintaining their low standards than the effort and paid work hours it would require them to just get an FPGA/real hardware solution and enjoy the immense gain in quality, response and accuracy. Why fight this?

Real Hardware>FPGA>PC

FACT

>>7246074
Fpga is a total scam. Pc emulation is just as good if not better. The mister output is hdmi it can't even do crt

>>7246062
>>7246095
Scammed into buying a subsidised developer board that runs free open-source software and cores. The cope in this thread is unreal lol

>>7246104
Literally a product that basedboy charges for idiot

where can I go to download every game ever made for my mister

>>7246125
build your own you absolute retard

>>7246127
same question but for pc

>>7246125
https://www.digikey.co.uk/en/product-highlight/t/terasic-tech/de10-nano is this basedboy's website?

>>7246127
>>7246134
Have you tried the internet?

>>7246137
I Hate these retro scammer consoomers

>>7246048
Do you think ram comes from a ram tree in South America?

>>7243908
Thanks for your worthless opinion, retard.

>>7246258
You can't build ram you retard

>>7246095
>The mister output is hdmi it can't even do crt
Imagine being this misinformed. There are two separate ways you can get analog video out out Mister.

The anti fpga people in this thread are most likely anti vaccine types. Don't waste your time people, they're a lost cause.

>>7246282
Where do you think mister ram comes from? Some guy on Etsy you might say.
>Now where does the Etsy seller gets it?
Well, Etsy is a place to sell handmade goods so I guess they manufacture it themselves with a pcb and a knowledge of soldering.
>Well if they can do it can’t I?
Yes

if it's good enough for the loco bandito it's good enough for me

>>7246291
How the duck does conflating those things make sense in your head

>>7246293
>Mister ram comes from Etsy
So uh
Is this what it's like to be a midwit? You think you're way smarter than you are don't you.
News flash retard. Building ram isn't like building a PC you idiot gamer. Browsing /g/ for five seconds doesn't make you smart.
You can't build useful ram as an individual

>>7246324
Do you think there’s a big mister ram factory lmao, people make them in their basement and sell them and so can you

>>7246293
mister ram comes from the same place the mister comes from. a factory in china with thousands of trained workers and robots and designers building multilayered silicon on a nano level.

Joe from Etsy is not building any thing useful on that level from his garage. Maybe he has a breadboard with 1mb of ram

>>7246319
By it clearly making sense. If one is stupid enough to be blind to the obvious higher quality fpga solutions have over emulators, it's not hard to picture such a person being stupid about many other things in life.

>>7246332
No they don't you retard.

>>7246337
What if someone is pro fpga and anti vax or vice versa

>>7246338
Here’s a picture of a sellers workshop
What do you think they’re doing?

>>7246349
Something that only makes sense when you buy in bulk

>>7246349
why don't you teach me how to make it if you're so educated

>>7246342
Well, even complete idiots get things right once in a while. This hypothetical person who is an anti vax moron, for example, used his last few brain cells to see the obvious best choice to play his favorite game (probably something retarded lile Sonic) without real hardware and bought a Mega SG. The Mister would've been the best value, but being able to set it up is beyond his retarded capabilities.

>>7246356
https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Main_MiSTer/wiki/SDRAM-Board-Assembly-(DIY)

>>7246353
Where do they order in bulk from? You seem to have all the answers. Reveal the knowledge that the mister cabal wishes to hide from the public

>>7246371
China dude. What? You buy the parts in
china
You can't seriously think he's making the CHIPS himself.

>>7246371
china you fucking retard. you're not building ram you're just assembling it

>>7246362
this is straight up not worth doing

>>7246387
This might be the problem. One side here is thinking about building RAM boards, while the other is thinking about assembling RAM chips, resulting in a retarded neverending argument.

>>7246362
Who the fuck would do this? You have to hunt down all these parts probably wait a long ass time for the china dealer read through documentation that
Retains it's obsolete parts for some reason and then painstakingly solder this shit so you can save like $20

>>7246362
>all these websites you need to order from make you sign up with an account
Dope man totally worth it

>>7246402
Endless arguments over semantics are what built this site and by god I will continue the tradition until I die

>>7234369
how could a mister possibly be worth it

>>7246408
Useless brainlet detected

>>7246408
Exactly. Definitely not worth buying.

>>7246751
Show me your shopping cart to 'build' the ram

>>7246762
https://www.mouser.de/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=d64d957fe8

40 Pin pin header not included

Get the PCB from jlcpcb. But i wouldn't recommend buying parts in low quantity.

It's cheap if you solder your own boards. Materials cost me like $250

desu the usb-hub is nice but its a meme and the io board is optional ... My setup was ~170€ the sdram modul was prebuild

>>7246802
I've never soldered before I don't get it

I want to build my own sdram but I don't know how. I wish I could get this emulation for cheap

>>7244302
Only if you buy all the basic as fuck boards from retarded burgers instead of chinks who pump them out for a sane price. I got everything other than 128mb for 50 bucks from China.

>>7246349
scamming boomers

>>7246964
USB hub is nice if you want more than one controller and USB wifi to update it rather than running an ethernet cable to it. The IO board is nice because you get the fan, and hardware reset button, as well as VGA and 3.5mm jack outputs.

Neither of these things should cost you very much from China.

>>7247092
Wait a minute? I have to solder something in order to build a MiSTer? Ugh...I'm just gonna stick to emulating on my PC. Fuck MiSTer.

>>7246939
>$250
>solder your own boards

That's the real crux of the problems and insecurity of the anti-FPGA brainlets right there:
- They are too poor/cheap/unemployed to spend $250 on something good.
- They are too lazy to solder or do anything at all that might require time and a little effort.
- They are too dumb to attempt to assemble even the simplest of things anyways, bet they write their shit post on pre-buildt/laptop PC or phones.

They get filtered hard and cry about it, they're just all-round trash. I mean, even people in poor shithole countries in Asia, Eastern Europe and Latin-America go FPGA, these slobs got no excuse.

>>7247158
It's kinda funny how reading a wiki scares brainlets away.

>>7247170
>>7247179
>anyone who doesn't want to solder is a brainlet
>anyone who doesn't want to spend $250 on a useless FPGA device is a poorfag
t. Seething MiSTer shills

>>7247207
>anyone who doesn't want to solder is a brainlet
This faggot still refuse to read the wiki to get an answer for his question. Brainlet filter still apply and that's a good thing!

>>7247207

t.Brainlet McPoorfag

>>7247223
>>7247227
>dur hurr uhhh you're a brainlet for not reading a wiki
>you're a poorfag if you don't buy a MiSTer
t. Seething MiSTer shills

>>7247252
Ask a stupid question and you'll get a stupid answer. And yes you are still a fucking retard and you shouldn't be so proud about it.

>>7247252
>coping with poverty

>>7247307
>you're a retard
>thinks my post was "asking questions"
t. retarded MiSTer shill

>>7247432
>thinks anyone who doesn't buy a MiSTer, is in poverty.
My PC shits all over your little piece of shit emulator device.

>>7247460
You should rather shit in the toilet you subhuman.

>>7243550
>>7243498
It's very new community developed technology
I don't understand why you're chimping out

>>7247507
is pooping in the shower a common occurence in arabia? if so i know where im moving

>>7247460
And my PCs (plural) shit all over your entire worthless life. You will always be trailer trash.

>>>7247109
Prove it
>>7247170
I can't solder I don't have any stuff. IDK. Seems like the kind of thing you just get or don't .

I wish I had a mister

>>7247507
Pretty sure the vast majority use those squatting toilets like in pic related. I know in Iran most places still use those.

It's amazing how horrifyingly uncomfortable using one of these can be when you're used to the Western toilets that you sit on.

>>7243415
>Eventually someone will make libretro boot on raw hardware without the OS and you'll get run-ahead *and* low latency. Oh and also all the nice enhancement features like resolution upscaling and PXGP.

... I am unsure you know what or how electronics work or how FPGAs work. I am also unsure if you know what software emulation is or does. You would not say this statement if you knew anything of what you are talking about. You have said the most retarded thing I think you could possibly say given this topic.

You are literally describing what a a MiSTER does. I am honestly baffled by how stupid you are. Holy goddamn.

>>7247507
>>7247638
>Getting triggered by me not wanting a MiSTer
>claims to have "multiple PC's"(which is likely untrue since people only need 1)
t. Seething MiSTer shills

mister is a cult of faggots

there I said it

>>7247806
I've seen literal actual retards solder to great effect, you can do it bro no doubt. Just hold the iron 1 sec at at point to either apply or remove solder, that's all there is to it and practice is cheap and easy.

You only need a OK iron and solder for this job, $30 should get you good enough stuff.

>>7247830
Seems to me more like a group of people expressing interest in an open source project that some autists on /vr/ hate for some bizarre reason

The MiSTer looks like it's only worth it for arcade cores written by Based Jotego and Furrtek's NeoGeo core. To my knowledge, they are the only MiSTer core authors who go the more hardcore route with actually decapping the ICs. All the other cores for computers and consoles seem to be largely based on findings in software emulation but without the benefits you'd expect from traditional software-based PC emulators like save states and fastfowarding.

>>7247845
I'm honestly scared off because it seems complicated to buy all the stuff for the sdram
I just want the cheapest option possible but the github stores all require you to make an account and I'm not comfortable with that.
I'm too retarded and uncoordinated to solder

>>7247868
Decapping ic?

>>7247896
Then pay the scardey tax and buy from some slob in Missouri for $20 more

>>7247829
>I can only afford one PC
>No one else needs more than one PC

Enjoy your worm.

>>7247830
Agreed. They are a bunch of morons who are trying to justify their reasons for buying a MiSTer and insult anybody who aren't on board on buying this worthless piece of crap.

>>7247938
>Enjoy your worm.
>Can't afford an anti-virus program
t.Poorfag pretending to be a rich boy by claiming to have multiple PC's

>>7247957
>only rich people have more than one PC

Damn, you must be rocking an ancient rig. I bet instead of a PSU it has a little dinosaur bashing away on a treadmill.

>>7247868
>without the benefits you'd expect from traditional software-based PC emulators like save states and fastfowarding.
Well, one dev responsible for the GBA core does add those quality of life features, he is currently reworking the GB/GBC core with rewind, fast forwarding and save states. It just requires significant rework of the core framework and other devs are not interested in those features yet.
By the way, Mister's GBA core passes the AGB Aging Cartridge test, once used by Nintendo to test GBA hardware. The only PC emulator which passes this test is NanoboyAdvance, an emulator used by nobody.

>>7247979
>>7247979
False. I upgrade my PC's hardware and either sell my old parts or donate those parts to a recycling center. No need for me to clutter my house with multiple PC's.

>>7247829
>Getting triggered by me not wanting a MiSTer
Why should i care? Like i said filtering out brainlets like you is a good thing. You should definitely stay away from the MiSTer! I would kinda feel stupid too if i spend 120$ for a box i am not able to setup because everything in my life is out of scope if its not explained in a step by step guide on YouTube.

>>7247904
Don't be a jerk

>>7248329
Fuck you mister shill
You have not given one reason to buy one

>>7248483
Sorry this site kinda turns you mean if you let it

>>7248329
>you're just a b-b-brainlet
>thinks I can't set up a "MiSTer
>When I have built my very own PC!
kek

>>7248489
Why would you listen to mister shill?
You know that the MiSTer ist just snake oil so why are you still so mad?

>>7248564
Great! Did your wife's boyfriend helped or did you build it all by yourself?

>>7248578
>wife's boyfriend
t.Projection

>>7245080
The systems based on transistor level designs should be perfect and the early news assumed that all systems would be this accurate. Some people decided to take shortcuts and port pc emulators so all you are doing is running a pc emulator port on mister, this type of thing should not be allowed on mister, its not even a clone, its just some made up thing that behaves a bit like the original system. Not good bro but it will probably eventually get there.

>>7248603
This. Mister is trash. Don't buy it

>>7234369
Mister will be worth it when near-perfect N64 and PSX are added. Literally no reason not to use
-Original hardware and a flashcart if you have the cash
-A hacked Wii and emulation if you want it on the cheap
If you're playing on a CRT and don't want to hook it up to a PC or
-One of the million emulation boxes on the market
-Your PC
If you're playing on a modern display

>>7249069
prove it

>>7238582
Hasn't this fag quit the scene like 3 times now? He does good work and all but of course he has to be a predictably broken weirdo.

>>7234369
No. It's just a really limited emulation device and any reduction in input lag is met or surpassed by a combination of run-ahead and free/gsync on a good PC setup.

>>7249392
He came back from the retirement a few months ago to finish his new translation of Bahamut Lagoon (with text supplied by Based Tom). He has been surprisingly chill recently, maybe because he is taking his meds nowadays.
To stay on topic, he says that he likes Mister as an emulation device and hates Analogue for their dishonest marketing (and that he has a personal grudge against Kevtris).

>>7247903
Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBwdmI0xmjE
>>7247868
Amiga Core is alright and has a ton of support from users. Gameboy line gonna get savestates soon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzRrWEmn6OA

I'm still waiting for PC-88/98 Core for dem anime titties

>>7250775
no need to be rude

Should I buy a MiSTer? How do I know if it's right for me

>>7251772
If you don't miss anything on emulators you should stick to them. If you think emulators gives you inconsistent performance (missing jumps, feeling a bit off) and the reason is not the input lag of you display then the MiSTer might be a good option for you.

>>7251772
Do you want a low power box that plays old games good?
Y/N

>>7251862
I'm always suspicious of my games not being accurate and also it'd be nice to have a dedicated low power box that doesn't have an internet connection for games.

But I'm also poor and it seems expensive

>>7251913
Well then keep an eye on this project until you think the money is worth it. I bought mine after the NeoGeo core came out and i didn't regret it.

Btw you don't need a full setup but the sdram module is highly recommend.

I can't wait until the CPS2 core is finished.

>>7251772
buy a raspi first, if your autism is strong enough you'll gravitate towards the mister eventually

>>7252001
Why waste money like that

>buy a raspi first, if your autism is strong enough you'll gravitate towards the mister eventually
It's a trap. Just emulate on PC.

>>7252005
Pc sucks ass

>>7252001
Original hardware > MISTer (for flexibility) = Analogue (for build and cart slot) >>> AVS = perfectly set up PC emulation > Wii >>> Raspberry Pi > Hyperkin-like garbage

I bought one of the ones without a housing and I leave it sitting out and tell everyone I made it myself. Now I'm swimming in mad scientist pussy.

>>7252130
You're a mister shill

>>7252146
Careful bro. Big Emu will send the black helicopter squad after you.

>>7252174
Nothing can best pc gaming. Pc is configurable to be perfect.

>>7252201
Except it's not, hence the need for runahead.

>>7252146
He might be a mister shill but he is right

>>7252209
Runahead is part of pc gaming
>>7252220
You're a fucking dumb animal

>>7252262
So is living in poverty and learning to cope with that.

>>7252268
Give me one reason why mister is better than pc

>>7252262
This guy still thinks that MiSTer owners don't have PC's to compare each other.

>>7242083
I think this pic is very related.

>>7252289

I'll give you 3 reasons:

a: Because I have a powerful PC and a MiSTer and I know which one more accurately replicates the feel of the original hardware that I also have.

2: FPGA cores aren't competing with all the bloatware a PC has running just to function.

D: You're an ugly faggot who should gas himself.

>>7252289
No audio latency, and consistent low-to-zero input latency depending on control method

>>7252289
Serial CPU translation and simulation of all other components or even multiple instances of the emulator to archive a somehow consistent experience vs parallel fpga architecture of the system

>>7252084
Nope. There's a reason why they call it the PC Master Race. Nothing can outmatch the performance of a PC. Especially not some emulation device.

>>7252146
Correct. Anyone who thinks that the MiSTer is better than PC, is out of their fucking minds.

>>7252289
It's not. MiSTer shills are trying to rip you off. PC is always better than any emulation device and their FPGA faggotry.

>>7252482
>the incel is replying himself and ducking the answers he demanded

How the fuck do you even get a MiSTer working

>>7252569
by connecting the power supply

>>7246457
Perfectly accurate arcade system and other multiple emulators in the size of a tiny little box? Extremely worth it

>>7252313
Not him, but this guy posting a list in a typical John Hughs reference just sold me on he MiSTer

>>7252565
>The incel
Is what you are.

>is replying himself and ducking the answers he demanded
False. This screen disproves your claim.

>>7252578
Yeah but how do I get all the stuff on it? How do I get it cheap? I want sub $200 and be able to play everything

>>7252790

This screen proves you are a lying cocksucker.

>>7252813
You need the board, buy it on amazon (around 130$), and also the SD ram, the best is to buy the 128 mb for full compatibility and you can buy it on ebay or mister addon shop. That's it, the rest like bluetooth dongle, wifi dongle, usb hub, ... it's up to you, you don't really need it to make things works.

Oh yeah there is also the cooling to take in account. You can buy a cheap heatsink on ebay around 3$ but you must be careful about the size and it should have thermal paste applied already on it. Generally speaking many just buy it on website like mister addon to not make mistake about the size but on ebay or even aliexpress it's easy to find for cheap.

>>7252917
dunno bro. I think that hub board is pretty much required to use it without hassle, especially if you what to do MP with friends.
For me its
DE-10 + 128MB of RAM + Hub
Other boards are optional/depends

>>7252817
>taking the time to fake this on MS Paint
t. Loser

>>7252817
you know you changed all the You's to those insults so you're actually calling yourself a faggot lol

>>7252917
What if I wanted to make the 128mb sdram

>>7253082

Why stop at 128? Be a champ and do 512.

>>7252790
>taking the time to fake this on MS Paint
t. Loser

>>7253128
>it's still seething half an hour later

i lol'd

>>7253024
>thinks someone would need MS Paint to edit the site
Brainlet detected

>>7253197
The poors tend to be dumb.

>>7253197
Shhh, he's part of the PC master race

>>7253267
Thats why they hate the MiSTer kek
Case closed

>>7253282
>>7253267
then why can't you educate me

>>7253534
I'm all out of turd polish.

>>7252917
You can get a thermal tape heatsink from the same place you buy the board for 2 or 3 bucks that fits perfectly. The cheap chink IO board works fine and comes with a fan, mine has some stupid LEDs in it but it doesn't make any noise, meanwhile dudes are spending 15 bucks on a 40mm fan which is more than I paid for the whole IO board.

>>7254419
can I just build my own

>>7254837
NO

>>7254839
Why not? I want to build my own sdram and heatsink

>>7254854
If you knew how you wouldn't need to ask permission.

How can the guy that made the Everdrives use fpgas to create a save states/load states feature but the Mister people can't? With excuses like "its too difficult and the core creator would have to do wonders" and saying "thats not what its meant to do since save states wasnt a feature in original hardware" while knowing the fpgas device original purpose was not retro gaming!

>>7254957
They don’t want to. It’s open source so if you feel like you can do it go ahead

>>7254957
>but the Mister people can't
They can and is supported by several cores, it just isn't a focus for many of the devs.
Mind you with Miser it has to be done on a core by core bases.

>>7254985
thats pretty lame from them. And as they said, only the core creator can do it and you sound bitter enough that you might be one of them. I tell you this: If the guy that made the GBA core for the mister could, you are just a lazy pussy.

>>7255012
>it just isn't a focus for many of the devs.

That lame excuse. Are you a shill or one of those lazy devs? Terasic's purpose for creating the device wasnt retro gaming and they are not making excuses ffs.

>>7255012
>Mind you with Miser it has to be done on a core by core bases.

Which is why the guy that made the Everdrive did for each everdrive and he was just one guy. The Mister devs, are several per core and still cant do it. You see the lazy pussyness of these guys (or you guys because you might be one of them)?

>>7255030
*what

>>7255030
Anon, creating a Mister core is substantially more work then doing a flash cart... Do you even understand what the Mister is and does? If you're looking for emulator style features you're looking in the wrong place.

>>7255028
>>7255030
>>7255020

>complaining about free stuff
Stop jewing around if u miss something contribute to the project or ask kindly for the features.

>>7254903
Yes I do. I need help

>>7255020
Who is they you retard? It's open source. If you want it then add it.

This thread is hilarious, keep it up guys

>>7255030
Perhaps MiSTer devs aren't bothering with save states because they are only used by whining cocksuckers, meanwhile normal people just want accurate games they can play. Just a guess.

>Another MiSTer thread
>Another attempt by Shills trying to sell this shitty product.
>Doesn't realize there's a way to install "FPGA" into a PC, making the MiSTer useless
kek

>>7255283
>Doesn't realize there's a way to install "FPGA" into a PC, making the MiSTer useless

>>7255283
That's like saying you can stack a Ferrari on top of a Lada.

>>7249392
>>7250246
he's a tranny now, isn't he?

>>7255283
Here is the Cyclone V GT FPGA Development Kit for 1299$. You can install this FPGA into your PC so you can keep shit posting in this thread about the PC master race.

>>7255426
Why are you mister shills so jealous and filled with buyers remorse

>>7255508
Pure projection. Is this the fabled master race?

>>7246095
Can't do CRT?
It can output to both CRT and HDMI simultaneously.

>>7255508
Jealous about what?

mister is so garbage why would anyone want it
imagine spending $200 for nesticle from 1998

>>7255542
Same reason why someone would buy an old SNES from ebay. I think /v/ is a better place for you.

>>7255553
That's not true at all. The mister is a retarded compromise. I have original hardware too moron

>>7255542
Yeah imagine spending $200 for Nesticle and also getting:

Acorn Archimedes
Acorn Atom
Alice MC10
Altair 8800
Amiga
Amstrad CPC 6128
Amstrad PCW
ao486 (PC 486)
Apogee
Apple I
Apple II+
Apple Macintosh Plus
Aquarius
Atari 800XL
Atari ST/STe
BBC Micro B,Master
BK0011M
Color Computer 2, Dragon 32
Commodore 16, Plus/4
Commodore 64, Ultimax
Commodore PET
Commodore VIC-20
DEC PDP-1
EDSAC
Galaksija
Jupiter Ace
Laser 310
MSX
MultiComp
Orao
Oric 1 & Atmos
SAM Coupe
Sharp MZ Series
Sinclair QL
Specialist/MX
TI-99/4A
TRS-80 Model 1
TSConf
Vector 06C
X68000
ZX Spectrum
ZX81
Astrocade
Atari 2600
Atari 5200
AY-3-8500
ColecoVision, SG-1000
Gameboy, Gameboy Color
Gameboy Advance
Genesis/Megadrive
SMS, Game Gear
MegaCD
NeoGeo
NES
Odyssey2
SNES
TurboGrafx 16 / PC Engine
Vectrex

Plus arcades, on a dedicated device that keeps getting better.

>>7255560
So do i, still using the MiSTer more often then my SNES.

>>7255575
>>7255570
Stopp I. What's wrong with you people fucking stop

>>7255615
>the emulatard can't handle facts

>>7255632
there's no way a mister can be better

>>7255879
Obviously the MiSTer is not better. The shills are trying desperately to push this on us, to try and convince us to buy this stupid piece of crap.

>>7255879
Of course it can, you fucking retard. What is the rationale behind such an absurd statement? Explain why it can't be better, then I will school you on why it already is better.

>>7255894
>>7255903
I'm so confused I'm getting mixed signals here you samefag. Mister shill and his controlled opposition

>>7255945
Can't back up what you say huh?

>>7255958
Fuck you that's mspaint nolifer

>>7255993
You've had half an hour to back up your statement and this is the best you can do? Weak.

>>7256008
Dude come on. You have the burden of proof

>>7256061
No I don't, you made the claim an hour ago and have made no attempt to substantiate it. You fucking ape.

>>7256073
You made the claim it was good and haven't substantiated

>>7256097
Except I did.

>>7256123
Fuck you man

>>7256170
Cry moar, bitch.

/vr/ was already getting to be a trash fire in a lot of ways, but since the gen6 addition its gotten even worse.
This board is basically fucking useless anymore, dunning kruger retards slinging at other dunning kruger retards
Was half way temped to share the CAVE Mister core that I got but at this point, but after reading this thread fuck it

>>7256213
So are you pro or anti mister and why

>>7256241
He is anti dunning kruger because you are a faggot

>>7256254
Samefag

>>7256259
Can confirm, you are a faggot.

>>7256241
Nether, its just another tool. Quit trying to turn everything in to a war of how you consooom, its pathetic.

>>7256274
Found the janny

>>7256284
Some tools are better than others dummy

>>7256332
Found the faggot.

>>7255945
I'm not the same as that guy ---> >>7255903, because I'm telling you the MiSTer is a piece of junk and that the MiSTer Shills are trying to sell it to us.

>>7256813
prove its junk

>>7256857
He can't.

>>7256915
why are anti mister shills existing

>>7257064
stupidity

>>7256254

Following the argument, this had my sides in orbit.

>>7255059
Do you understand that the guy who made the everdrive used fpgas too?