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Would you buy games full price if companies started doing legit development for your favourite retro consoles? I don't mean indie, I mean if something like Sega announced tomorrow that they were reviving support for the Genesis.

I would shit blood.

>> No.722683

I wouldnt pay $60, but i think if they charged $20-$30 i would buy them.

A proper Sonic 4 or Mario world 3 would be awesome.

>> No.722685

Full price from when? The price of the Sega Genesis and its game vary depending what year you're talking about.

Is this also taking inflation into consideration?

>> No.722686

I would pay 30-40, imagine new 16-bit games with big-memory cartridges, but probably the modern essence of the games would be pretty different.

>> No.722690

>>722685
Like in the $30 to $60 range. Back-then prices would be over $100 today. The fancy clamshell cases would probably cost a bit to make.

>> No.722696

Considering how much companies spend on game development these days for modern consoles, I would assume the cost of developing for old 8-16bit consoles would be drastically cheaper.

They could probably sell games for $20 and still make a profit depending on how many units are manufactured and sold.

>> No.722717

That would be friggin loopy. Retailers wouldn't want shit to do with it, so SEGA would have to have some kind of direct online store, maybe a subscription-based distribution.
I'd totally sign up for a couple of carts a year, maybe with t-shirts, soundtrack CDs/cassettes, promo videos, etc. thrown in.

>> No.722719

If the games were $20-$30, sure, I'd be game.

>> No.722752

Would they really be able to get cartridge manufacturing costs down low enough to make it viable?

>> No.722778

>>722752
You underestimate how cheap manufacturing is in China these days.

>> No.723463
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>>722679
Devs Do still make games for the Sega Genesis, OP:

Pier Solar
Beggar Prince
Star Oddessey

and many more. Google will show you the path, my friend.

>> No.723473

>>723463
>I don't mean indie

Not that those games aren't worth it.

>> No.723508

>>723473
My mistake. First-party support WOULD be great. Nintendo, Sony, and such have no interest in supporting their older consoles, though. They want us to buy the new ones and download the "classics" through their online services. :(

>> No.723509

>>723473
If you don't mind paying the ridiculous after-market prices yes.

>> No.723518

>>723508
They expect people to pay for roms that have the exact same amount of functionality as shit you can download anywhere. It's not "piracy" if it's an out of print game for a dead console.

>> No.723516

This would probably fuck up the economy of retro games and how 'rare' they might be.

I don't care though, I'd fucking buy one.

>> No.723517

>>723509
I agree that they are high, but hell, look what retro-collectors are paying even for sub-par cartridges these days.

>> No.723532

>>723518
Exactly. It's bull, but people put up with it, as the vast majority of people couldn't even unzip and run an emulator package, much less download roms, set up a frontend, change settings, setup a controller, etc.,

>> No.723547

>nintendo reprinting Earthbound.

The butthurt would be glorious.

>> No.723556

>>723532
If they made actual reprints of the games, I would pay for them. And I mean with no cutting corners bullshit like flash memory instead of a save battery. I would happily throw $60 at Sega to get a reprint of Crusader of Centy instead of having to pay $120+ for the boxed original.

>> No.723561

>>723547
Fucking Mother fanboys. The Japanese version is $25 boxed on ebay.

>> No.723563

That would be pretty sweet OP, but I can't imagine the games being cheap, considering how cost-prohibitive it would be to mass-produce cartridges today. That would be like record companies deciding to go back to tapes.

Realistically, they would have to make their games made-to-order, kind of like what Warner Bros. does with the Warner Archive.

>> No.723572

I would love if companies besides indie developers kept making games for older consoles. Imagine if Falcom was still making PC Engine.

I would pay $60 for new quality titles for older systems. Hell I plan on getting the Dreamcast version of Pier Solar and I want to try and get Gunlord someday.

>> No.723574

I rather like how they release older games on newer consoles(there are a few exeptions). I would be more apt to buy a game that worked on my current system than dig out the old one.

>> No.723578

>>723556
Why would you want a fucking save battery.

>> No.723583

>>723578
Because they are replaceable. Flash memory will go eventually and some people are already having problems with the flash dying in GBA and DS games.

>> No.723613

>>723583
Good Point. IFlash memory isn't quite "there" yet in terms of long-term reliability. Hell, i still keep a close eye on my SSD, and I NEVER back anything important up to it.

>> No.723689

Depends on the console. If Sega said they were reviving the Genesis, no.

If Sega said they were reviving the Dreamcast, hell yes.

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>>722679
>Would you buy games full price if companies started doing legit development for your favourite retro consoles?
Fuck no.
For a few reasons. Development would be far cheaper and quicker these days and so is storage space, we're talking dirt cheap. Plus developers suck shit today. Have you seen the shit Sega releases these days? There's no reviving that shit with awful developers.
Even if you did, they'd have to fight against competing prices from games out there, hardware would be far cheaper to produce. Plus fuck sega gamepads, they suck dick. Modern gamepads shit all over them. Emulation allows me to mix them up and configure them for six button controllers as well in a far better form factor.
If they built a new scene around freeing up options, using SD cards for saves and shit and had good devs I'd be willing to raise the price but still not full price, I don't pay 'full bullshit marketing way overcompensated for the work price' these days anyhow.

Pic related unless inflation makes twenty dollars the equivalent of five cents, which it most likely will one day.

>> No.724391

>>723583
If they stuck a flash slot on the cart so it could write to an SD card and shit you can expect around 100K writes before degredation sets in nominally. You can expect up to a million per typical and even ten million on some and higher with other cards.
Now for a primary storage with things that do a lot of writing, that's not so hot to use if it's constantly rewriting. But for save files, it's fairly trivial and given the fact that you could copy and buy a new one for 1-10 bucks, they're fucking optimal for game saves. A battery backup could theoretically handle more write within a timespan but the battery will die quicker than the flash. If you never save as often as flash degrades then flash makes the better solution for saving.

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>>723689
Fuck the Dreamcast, Genesis all the way baby. Can you even into blast processing? The dream is dead have they told you yet?

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>>725247

>> No.725578

Let's say they brought back support for the 3D0. What's the absolute worst thing EA could do with it?

>> No.725603

>>725578
>buying from EA
>even in the 3D0 era
I shoobidy doobidy.

>> No.726169

>>722679
If the games were good enough, hell yes.

The SNES & Genesis would be prime markets for it. They could sell physical carts, and also sell the easily emulated rom thru VC/PSN/XBLA/Steam.

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726268

Depend on what you mean when you say full price. I would not pay $100 like some games used to be but I would pay around $60. Pier Solar by WaterMelon is selling for $60 so I think that is a good price.

>> No.726653

>>726268
I didn't even wince dropping $60 on Pier Solar (reprint), and it's not likely to be reprinted until DECEMBER.

>> No.726710

>>726268
Looks like I'm saving up for December. I've been going back and getting games for my Genesis again. I wish there was more people making new games for it.

>> No.726848

>>726653
>>726710
same here. I wish I would have gotten the OST with the sega cd disc though.