/vr/ - Retro Games

"People who make shit threads like this are losers who sit alone in their dark rooms and stew in their own filth." -Me, 2020

whats there to discuss? he was right

Hiroshi was rich and powerful, and also right. But what he missed is the appeal of that when you're a wagie. After spending a day with shitty coworkers and dealing with your ingrate children then having a slow paced game with a pretty world and no one asking you for shit is great. The player is depressed because of these things and the game is their only break.

>Failure will not be tolerated, but betrayal? That must be dealt with far more severely...
– Hiroshi Yamauchi, 1997

>>7235062
Are you a professional quote maker

>wake up
>think about nintendo
>think that by making fake miyamoto and yamauchi quotes, you will get nintendo fans angry, and other people to hate on nintendo
>none of it happens
>repeat everyday anyways

He could've saved us from the Jarpig menace

>>7235117
Except Yamauchi's quote on jarpigs is real.

>>7235053
this was cope from an old boomer who watched as his company went from "synonymous with the word video game" to less than 50% marketshare in the span of about 6 years largely because of RPG's from sega and sony like FF7 and sakura wars

>>7235062
This

>>7235095
"Yes, I am. Thank you for asking." -Me, 2020.

>>7235117
yamauchi and miyamoto both hated rpgs jesus christ just look at miyamoto's wikipedia page

>>7235163
N64 still sold 33 million units worldwide even in spite of having no RPGarbage.

Based Nintendo always wins.

>>7235163
>sakura wars
lmao who???

>>7235214
>N64 still sold 33 million units worldwide even in spite of having no RPGarbage.
half of those sales were for people wanting to play pokemon games like stadium, which have the most basic bitch jrpg gameplay there is
>>7235225
insanely popular (in japan) franchise that ran stage plays and shit for years even after the games themselves stopped being good.

>>7235053
He's not wrong.

>>7235053
definitely cope given that dragon quest was the biggest fucking deal in japan during the nes/snes era and exclusively released on nintendo hardware, but then they skipped the N64 to release dragon quest 7 on the PS1 instead (as did square with FF7)

>>7235242
Is half of 33 million 5 million now?

"I think that with an RPG you are completely bound hand and foot, and can't move. But gradually you become able to move your hands and legs... you become slightly untied. And in the end, you feel powerful. So what you get out of an RPG is a feeling of happiness. But I don't think they're something that's fundamentally fun to play. With a game like that, anyone can become really good at it. With Mario though, if you're not good at it, you may never get good."
>never
>git
>gud

>>7235327
Wtf I love Shiggy now.

>>7235327
>With Mario though, if you're not good at it, you may never get good."
*proceeds to put superguide and other the game plays itself for you mechanics in every nintendo game since obama was president*

>>7235327
>With Mario though, if you're not good at it, you may never get good.
He sure reversed course on this stance like a whiplash, like damn. I feel bad for people who quote things from people who later went back on them. You can see in realtime a person learning whatever lessons their career and experience is teaching them, and you want the unlearned version of them. Incredible.

>>7235497
>since obama was president
Not retro.

>>7235063
>whats there to discuss? he was right

"I'm too old for this 2D waifu bullshit. Go find a flesh and blood human being and fuck together in one of my love hotels, and play some Dance Aerobics for NES afterwards!"

>>7235528
forgot to include related image.

>>7235053
>>7235091
so was yamauchi the last dude who ran ninty with DIRECT ties to yakuza?
always got that vibe from him

>>7235548
also, on that note
they str8 murdered gunpei yokoi and id put money on it

Was there ever a source for this Yamauchi quote? Any links in japanese?

>>7235636
lol prolly not
that said he always gave me a serious organized crime vibe, and i cant imagine someone like that would be too into fucking dragon quest

idk moon so i put the quote into https://www.deepl.com/translator and it spit out
彼らは暗い部屋で一人で座ってゆっくりゲームをするのが好きな鬱ゲーマーです。
idk how accurate that is, but its the best online translator ive ever used. i know it handles chinkrunes quite well as ive used it in the past.
but maybe if youre feeling autistic, you might be able to find it

>>7235681
i also replaced the generic [RPG gamers]
with "they"

>>7235681
I'm pretty sure Yamauchi wouldn't use a word like "Gamer", hardly any people used that term in the 90s.
So, after all, it's just another gossip without actual source. I actually want this one to be real though lmao.

>>7235062
Fpbp

>>7235694
>I'm pretty sure Yamauchi wouldn't use a word like "Gamer"
im actually not too sure
its definitely possible that the nips have/had some sort of slang term for "gamer" back then. i know they have all the "-con" terms, like lolicon, otacon etc for far stranger "hobbies"

>>7235719
nah I doubt it, japanese used "player". Or maybe "user". Gamer seems like a 2000s neologism more than anything.

>>7235053
Based weeb-basher boomer
Fuck menu navigators

>>7235727
>Gamer seems like a 2000s neologism more than anything
yea no doubt
if anything, this "translation" of the "quote" has been modernized in order to bait more fags

prolly just fake an gay tho

>>7235498
you ever consider that someone could act against their beliefs to make more money?

>>7235128
>>>7235117
>Except Yamauchi's quote on jarpigs is real.

I think he said that as an insult to SquareSoft after they decided to cut ties with Nintendo and develop FFVII on the PSX.

>>7235214
Pokeshit was the number one reason people bought gameboys

"Crash Bandicoot proves that players will put up with mediocre gameplay as long as the art is good."
-Ken Kutaragi, 1996

>>7235757
is an n64 a gameboy?

>>7235753
I'm thinking the quote is fake and people post it just because it's funny to imagine it's real.

>>7235764
It was mentioned on Giant Bomb and IGN.

>>7235762
No, but you’re conveniently forgetting that RPG’s kept Nintendo’s entire handheld division alive for multiple console generations

>>7235757
I thought it was Tetris

>>7235779
Yeah it was probably posted in many other forums and western sites, but where's the japanese article?

>>7235753
now THAT seems believable

>>7235757
my dude, the original gameboy was released almost a decade prior to pogaymens. and it absolutely dominated the handheld market from its release until it and its descendents like GBC, GB pocket was phased out for the GBA. if anything, pokemon just got people to buy one of the newer models like the GBC.

but the GB was an established name for years, with a huge player base for basically its entire life cycle. people bought it because it was arguably the only ACTUALLY portable handheld on the market, and unlike the game gear and lynx, had a battery life of over 45mins. and also, because the GBs initial release came at the time where "a nintendo" literally meant "a videogame system"

>>7235497
Is it really that bad? Honestly I haven't played a Mario past Galaxy, which wasn't too casual once you got to midgame or so.

>>7235793
and super mario land

I've been playing RPGs all my life and I'm clinically depressed, the quote in OP checks out

>>7235793
>>7235820
link's awakening, niggas.
also unironically the Mortal Kombat 2 port. MK2 was the only good handheld MK game, it sold many GB and GG units back in 1994.

>>7235814
No it's not. Mario Odyssey can get fairly difficult.

>>7235793
>I thought it was Tetris

Sold 35million units worldwide, but was also the pack-in game from launch (1989) to about the mid 1990's.

>>7235828
i dont think that one was a launch title tho, was it?
but yea that games fucking fantastic
speaking of LA, idk how you feel about randomizers, but the LA randomizer is pretty darn fun
you should try it
https://daid.github.io/LADXR/

>>7235880
>i dont think that one was a launch title tho, was it?

Links Awakening was a 1993 release. The GameBoy launched in 1989.

>>7235892
knew it
t. knew it

>>7235793
If you combine Pokémon Red and Blue with Yellow they outsold Tetris (a pack in game) by ten million units

>>7235814
>>7235845
recent mario games are a lot more challenging than they used to be to 100% because they put in these "we'll play the game for you" modes. it's not about difficulty though so much as the idea that not anyone can beat a mario game, which hasn't been true since sunshine with that bullshit volcano level

>>7235919
Even then, the final level of SMG2 was way harder than Corona Mountain, and there was no auto-win feature there. I'm sure there were many people who never 100%ed the game because of that.

>>7235053
He's not wrong

>>7235935
>who never 100%ed
most people don't even know there's secret levels like SMW

>>7235053
RPGs are for virgins.

>>7235548
They all do, sega, konami, capcom.

>"You cannot invade mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass."
– Hiroshi Yamauchi, 1945

>>7236631
>"HEY BALLMER, SUCK ON MY TINY YELLOW BALLS!"
-Hiroshi Yamauchi, at a meeting with Microsoft's former CEO, Seven Ballmer.

>>7236653
>He planned to study law or engineering, but World War II disrupted his studies.

If it wasn't for WW2, Hiroshi would've become a lawyer. So next time you're playing Nintendo remember to thank Hitler.

>>7235053
there is really no disputing this, but should be posted on /vrpg not hear

>>7235053
>manage a video game company
>don't play video games

>>7235053
DAS RITE!

>>7236764
They rarely do. CEOs are not autistic losers like gamers, otherwise they would not be CEOs.

>>7236764
>own a brothel
>don't have sex with random men for money

>>7236797
Bad analogy. It's more like
>own a brothel
>don't have sex with the prostitutes
which would be kind of a waste imo

>>7236909
but muh quality assurance?
youre telling me hed hire some other chucklefuck and pay him to do QA on all his whores?
now THAT sounds like a waste

>>7235053
yamauchi a few years later: "PLEASE, SQUARE, PLEASE COME BACK AND BAIL US OUT OF OUR FLOP OF A CONSOLE!"

>>7237294
>yamauchi a few years later
wasnt it iwata a few years later?
and didnt the wii make fucking bank?
i mean i know it was a gay under-powered meme console with the most shovelware of any console ever, but you cant argue with raw sales figures

>>7237310
oh yea, AND the DS
yea sure the N64 sucked and only had like 4 games even worth playing, but by the early 2000s i wouldnt have even given a fuck if i was them

>>7235904
>If you combine Pokémon Red and Blue with Yellow they outsold Tetris (a pack in game) by ten million unit

Pokemon was huge at the end of the life of the original GameBoy. Pokemon was released in Japan in 1996, and then in US/NA in 1998. At that point in time Nintendo had the GameBoy Pocket out in the market. But released the GameBoy Color in 1998. There was a huge spike in GameBoy/Pocket sales due to Pokemon. Sales numbers that Nintendo hadn't seen with the GameBoy since the Tetris craze. It probably also helped sell GBC units as well.

>>7236658
The glorious interview.

>>7235053
>>7235063
>>7235086
>>7235119
>>7235252
>>7235327
You guys do realize this was him coping over Square Soft not wanting to deal with cartridges, and this autism fit led to most third parties going to Sony.

>>7235053
He looks like he wants to be white, how based is this guy! A true anti-weeb.

>>7235053
>made billions off of chinpokomon

>>7237750
Pretty sure it was the not wanting to deal with cartridges that made devs want to jump ship, doubt many of them cared that much about an offhand comment Yamauchi made.

>>7235062
/thread

>>7237815
By that point he was literally a seething oldfag with crumbling business model, so barely anyone cared.

>>7235062
Keyed

>>7237750
miyamoto said that in 2003 dipshit. and is it really hard to believe yamauchi hated rpgs? has nintendo ever made an rpg in house instead of outsourcing them? it was always about the money.

yep thats me

>>7237982
you should play faster games then anon, so that you can have friends and maybe someday get a room with windows in it, which you can then sit in with your new friends and play fast games with your new friends that you now have because you started playing faster games and got friends

thats how it works
my dad used to work for nintendo see >>7235053 told me thats how it works, so now i know thats how it works
thx dad <33

Jarcels BTFO by Based Yamauchi.

>>7238036
get off my board niggeloving faggot

>>7235053
He looks OLD!

>>7238106
Or what?

"Jaime pull up that Did You Know Gaming about Yamauchi being a monster comprised of 7 oni souls."

>>7238153
i'll steal your fucking identity

>>7238186
Enjoy your ban.

>>7238195
Fuck off you imposter

>>7238206
Or what?

>>7238210
Better make a trip just to be safe ;)

Fuck you, imposter.

>>7238323
>>7238337
Can you both fuck off already?

>>7235214
What is Paper Mario?

A second imposter? RENT FREE.

>>7238369
>>7238347
CRINGE

>>7237909
If he hated RPGs, he probably hated games in general, as Zelda 2 was an RPG. The beloved (in Japan) Mother series were RPGs. Their system seller, Dragon Quest, was an RPG series. Pokemon was both an RPG series and a ripoff ot two other RPG series.

What in tarnation is this faggotry?

I will never be a woman.

I will also never be a woman.

>>7237730
Back when people actually put some actual effort into fake Nintendo people quotes and it was actually funny.

>>7238360
A game that came out in the tail end of the N64's life that nobody bought a system for?

>>7235053
Yeah, sounds like cope to me dawg. Anyway
>muh SMRPG
is worshiped by Nintendofaggots (inb4, I love Nintendo) so I don't think he would have wanted to shit on that legacy.

>>7238036
Surprised you don't like JRPGs desu

>>7238535
Rude.

>>7238535
Fuck jarpigs.

>>7237750
That doesn't make him any less right.

>>7239202
He is wrong though. The only people agreeing with him are sad losers. So, people like Yamauchi.

>>7239518
I bet you play RPGs.

>>7235214
>N64 still sold 33 million units
Most of which were in America.
>worldwide
Less than half of the worldwide amount of PS1's sold worldwide.
>Based Nintendo always wins.
Distant 2nd place in US and EU and last place in Japan is not "winning", Nintoddler.

>>7239895
>last place in Japan
I think the numbers between Saturn and N64 are pretty even, and Saturn came out 2 years earlier. Also, software-wise, N64 sold more.
Anyway, console wars are toddler-tier, if you weren't an idort you just had a shit childhood period.
Also: Saturn=N64>PS.
PS didn't have either good 3D nor good 2D, it only had decent FMVs out of the box and that's it.

>>7235208
Err... Miyamoto was involved with Super Mario RPG and Mother 1.
Yamauchi was having Mother 3, Fire Emblem 64, Ao no Tengai, Dragon Quest 7, under planning for the N64. Things started to go terrifically wrong around 1999.

Nintendo made a "Dream Team" list of their bestie third party developers (including devs of GTA, lmao) that had 0 nip developers. With that much salt, what makes you believe the're not above disparaging entire genres?
Especially one that's Squaresoft's main claim of fame, and that was one of the key parties instrumental in convincing other devs to support the PS1 after getting burned so hard by Nintendo's artificially complicated approval process.

tl;dr: Yamauchi said this because of pure pettiness, throwing his own devs (Mother 3, Animal Crossing predecessor dungeon crawler, Custom Robo, Shiren the Wanderer...) under the bus.

>>7235498
Mario nowadays is the epitome of design by committee.

Even the GBA ports were full of gaps filled with solid blocks and new checkpoints everywhere (to be fair SMB2j in All-Stars started this)
DKCR2 and NSMBU got rereleases on the Switch with a fucking god mode.

I don't think Miyamoto cares anymore. He's not even the Mario character committee. As long as it makes money, anything goes.

>>7235214
Literally their only good game was GoldenEye

>>7240940
Based Rareware, the only reason to own a n64.

>>7235327
This is such a retarded take. So if you're not autistic enough to get skilled at platformers you obviously can't enjoy other video games?

>>7235548
Isn't that basically any big business in Japan though?

>>7240940
how is it any different from Quake? GoldenEye was just Quake introduced to casual normals on a console.

>>7235793
Don't forget those Final Fantasy games that were really Romance SaGa games