/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
500ml of /vr/
BETA, UPDATED:
https://archive.org/details/500ml-vr-halloween-beta
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/7041037/#7043379
https://discord.gg/F968y8Wj4x

=== NEWS ===
[12-26] New SC-55 soundfont released:
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118828-the-most-accurate-sc-55-soundfont-out-now/

[12-24] DBP31: Santa's Outback Bender for the 3rd annual Doomer Boards Project Christmas extravaganza released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118801-dbp31-santas-outback-bender/

[12-22] Gearbox reaches a settlement with Bobby Prince over the use of his music tracks in Duke Nukem 3D: Anniversary Edition https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2020-12-21-gearbox-reaches-settlement-with-bobby-prince-over-duke-nukem-music

[12-22] Markshan Knightmare has released a Updated installer for the Window of Retribution community Mission pack for Q2
https://leray.proboards.com/thread/3867/re-windows-retaliation?page=1&scrollTo=28875

[12-21] Anon made and shares an Episode 1 style level
https://mega.nz/file/mrZViaIZ#MLHFdce2Eb2zdBQUbTFTaz4pHuyKdJd__ZRPh3uxp9w

[12-20] Quake Xmas Jam 2020 Released
https://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61995

[12-20] Mission64 a Quake 2 64 missionpack for Q2 was released
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/mission-64

[12-20] DSDA 10.0 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118074-dsda-doom-source-port-v0100/

[12-19] TerminusEst13 releases a 7DFPS GZDoom project, Kid 4 $29.99.
https://terminusest13.itch.io/kid-4-2999

[12-19] Snap the Sentinel, a short standalone 7DFPS IWAD made for GZDoom inspired by SNES/Genesis games released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118627-gzdoom-snap-the-sentinel-~-short-new-iwad-for-7dfps/
https://tehrealsalt.itch.io/snap-the-sentinel

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0/edit?usp=sharing

TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST

>>7227449
Metroid Prime and Half Life are action adventure games in first person.

Not first person shooters.

I guess they released the first-ever Dusk map jam, I'm currently downloading it.
https://dusk.mod.io/dusk-winter-jam-2020/

>>7227236

/vr/ and 4chan as a whole has largely lost their sense of community because we have had a massive influx of phoneposting newfags within the past few years

I really miss the retro roulette threads we had a year or so back, those were always fun.

>>7227458
I guess they also have to download and run every map in the jam separately, kek. This isn't off to a great start but I hope the maps make up for it.

>>7227463
How has 4chan gotten so much traffic yet still feels non-mainstream? It's honestly amazing to be desu

>>7227359
You sound like a complete faggot. Which tranny are you from DW? Macguffin?

>>7227463
>almost half the connections are phonefags

So the myths were true.

>>7227479
I post on my computer at home and my phone when I'm out, I am sure lots of other people do too, what's the big deal?

>>7227474
Possibly the faggot doomkid or marisa

>>7227472
It feels extremely mainstream to me. Not too long ago I was watching a random youtube video and all the comments were sneed posters. Peepee and wojak are all the rage with normalfags too.

>>7227489
Normalfags still don't come here

>>7227318
I don't remember that one

>>7227483
I post from my phone when taking a shit or when out and about and bored. I think the issue is more people who post exclusively from their phone.

>>7227469
Update 2: the first map I tried started me out in a near pitch-black room and I immediately fell into an unmarked pitch-black pit. There's a small tunnel in the pit leading to BASIC block-stairs, all unnavigatable due to the darkness, and I couldn't figure out where to go next from there. Gross. I know that the SDK just released but I expected a bit better.

>>7227483
Phoneposting inherently discourages OC creation and thoughtful posts because it is much more difficult and time consuming to do so on a phone.

>>7227453
Retard

>>7227439
>OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
This could stand to be updated.

>>7227529
In general maybe, but when I'm taking a shit I have literally nothing else to do, so I often end up typing up some pretty lengthy posts.
OC gets made on PC though.

Is Xash3d good?

dew's a fucking faggot.
Why go somewhere to shit on a project made by aspiring amateurs with literally no provocation?

>>7227546
Is dew a tranny? This shit >>7227239 is pure fucking cringe.

>>7227494
Perhaps you are the normalfag and you can't spot them as easily as others?

>>7227570
I've been on the site since 2007 so I must be brain damaged

>>7227565
The only thing that's cringe is your wads, buddy :)

https://www.moddb.com/mods/rampage-mod/downloads

>>7227575
So dw faggots are going to come here and start shit now?

>>7227546
Who the fuck is dew?

>>7227576
yes, i forgot to link that one in the news due to the rampant shitposting >>7227442

>>7227576

Look at all these "official" content.
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/List_of_commercial_compilations

>>7227463
/vr/ took a bit of a dive somewhat recently. When it first kicked off it was the tits though.
Repair threads, games you can't remember the name of threads, draw a map threads, /doom/ started.
It's shit now, but still better than most of the internet because I don't have to pretend my grandma is in the room.

>>7227589
that Ai model isn't that good
i did my own using Lollypop and fatality and the results were better

>>7227601
show

>>7227598
We still have all those, cry more queer.

>>7227546
Sorry, it's just that your project is dogshit. Maybe you shouldn't even try to make maps at all, you know they won't be half as good as something like BTSX.

>>7227598
I thinking gatekeeping is gay but tourist kids who came to the site and spent too much time on /b/, /v/, and /pol/ ruined the sense of community that lots of boards around here used to have. Now the majority of posts on this board alone are low-effort bait or worse. I know that it's a given but man have things ever changed around 4chin in the past ten years, it's a major bummer.

>>7227583
>Boris Klimeš (alias dew) is a Czech speedrunner who has been active in the Doom community since 2008. He is best known as a moderator of the Doom Speed Demos forum at Doomworld, and as a playtester for several prominent projects, notably the 32in24 series, Plutonia: Revisited Community Project, Back to Saturn X, Double Impact, No End In Sight, and SIGIL. Since 2013, Klimeš has been an author of the annual Cacowards feature, focusing on the multiplayer awards.
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Boris_Klimeš_(dew)

>>7227621
>2008
So a zoomer piece of shit then

>>7227612
The board moves too fast now cunt. Repair threads for instance are booted off in a day in favor of... Lets see...
>Apologize
>dreamcast shitposting
>calling out casuals
>can_we_all_agree.jpeg.jpg
>gamecube shitposting
>retro waifus
There's a bunch of other low quality threads atm that would've been common back then too, but the board speed meant they didn't dominate entirely. Most of the ones I mentioned are clickbait-tier. Begging a question or implicitly pitting one fandom against another. These people should work at marketing firms but instead they're here fucking up /vr/ for free because they think arguments are the same as conversation.

We still have the romhack general most of the time, but even that has been booted off the board a bunch.

>>7227621
>Czech
>calling anyone else cringe
Come on, don't bullshit me.

>>7227602
i have more models to play with but lollypop is better since its general upscaling while fatality does better with other stuff like guns and some monsters.
as for Q2 skyboxes, it would be better if someone, preferentially a good non deviantart pozzed tier artist picks the upscales for all packs and gives the final touches to make it accurate with the original models

>>7227647
A lot of those should be bannable offenses tbdesu.

>>7227654
You'll never get a cacoward, too bad.

>>7227671
You live in a third world shithole, keep your Cacoward

Reminder that anyone can just claim to be anyone, and that you niggerfaggots should be talking about Doom, instead of trying to foster artificial drama.

>>7227672
Where do you live, huh? Bet you're too pussy to even say lmfao

>>7227673
newfags literally have no idea how 4chan works. Remember when someone claimed to be Civvie? Everyone took it at face value.

>>7227673
This guy gets it. It wasn't too long ago that somebody impostered to beat this game you must defeat me, and the thread went apeshit. We must learn.

I'M GONNA KICK YOUR ASS 6 WAYS FROM SUNDAY

Did Romero and the lads really anticipate players would circle strafe as Romero later claimed or do you think it was a total surprise when players started doing it?

>>7227680
That's apparently happened twice, but I missed the second time.

>>7227678
Midwestern US.

>>7227673
Can we talk about Powerslave?

>>7227615
Calm down, fake me. 2048vr was asessed by the cacoward committee, multiple members played it. There was quite a lot of hype for the entertainment highlights early on, but also a lot of hate for the dull streak in the latter part of the 2nd episode, and forward. For several months 2048 was considered a tentative HM, but it got eventually pushed out as higher caliber projects rolled in later in the year.

I understand if you want to filter me out as irrelevant, but maybe listen when I'm actually describing how the community works? Cause you ain't no center of the universe, lol.

>>7227702
So you're the real dew? Does DW respect /vr/'s wads?

>>7227705
>So you're the real dew?
Of course he fuckin isn't.

>>7227705
Respect might be a strong word. I'd say we *tolerate* your output more than anything. Like letting the weird kid sit with you at the lunch table out of pity.

>>7227660
before i go to bed, here is neat trick for yamagiq2
set aimfix "1"
set gun_z "1"
set gun_y "2"
now the gun doesnt clip anymore in higher fov and the gun now aim where the crosshair is, including the anims

Anyone got a link for Ultrakill? It's not on GOG-games

>>7227715
Why do you coddle trannies?

>>7227716
How do I make the fucking guns have muzzle flashes?

>>7227720
Because they're actually capable of decent content...?

>>7227702
>Cause you ain't no center of the universe, lol.
/doom/ is where the real scene is, DW is stale.

I told you all there was no way you couldn't stop giving me (you)s. Every day this thread will belong to me.

This game is surprisingly better than it has any right to be, probably the best FPS o the system along with Doom ports

The controls are not as clunky as I expected and the only thing I didn't like were bullet sponge bosses even on medium difficulty

>>7227752
I got a good kick out of it when I was a kid.

Betray > Sewers
Also why the random SS Nazi?

>>7227698
Its fucking based

Is it true that Thief 2's last mission is a huge pain in the ass compared to the rest of the game?

>>7227729
Oh wow he actually believes this! Give me a sec, gonna have to screenshot this post too.

Someone recommend me slaughterfest maps

I really like the gggmork secret map

Honestly there are so many good wads. Doom community is amazing

>>7227702
Meh you ignored wormwood eu. You suck

>>7227708
>>7227715
Second quote not mine, we're not petty like that. We look at everything and the "haggling" is mostly limited to a few projects on the precipice between a clear main award and HM. That's where most of the arguing happens.

I'm personally responsible for a huge snub in the MP category, Jumpmaze X. I had no idea it existed, because I don't play that mode. The guilt eats me. You have no idea how seriously we take this.

>>7227765
Cope harder faggot, this is the heart of retro FPS.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=3vWxx6sQpI4

>>7227783
Well why the fuck did you shit on Jumpmaze X? Anyway, give us a Cacoward nigger. And is SIGIL really better than REKKR?

>>7227792
Wrong thread retard, though Marphy is based,

>>7227796
How is this the wrong thread? Marphy lurks these generals.

>>7227738
This faggot isn't me, stop LARPing tard.

Take meds

take wads

T̶̨̛̟̦̠̟̹͎̱̎͆̂͛͝À̸̯̠͚̝̈́̈́͆̈̌̈́͂̀̀K̵̛͈̻͕͍̮̦̀̏̾̇̋͊͐̀̽͠͠E̴̢̘̦̼̪͒̐̏̏̃̀̾͂̇́́͐͜͠ ̸̢̻͎̤̠̞͔͙̠̳̖̼̞̾͛͛̓͜͝T̵̼̩͉̥̘̱͎̺͋H̶̬̱͔̠̖̱̤̤̹̀͗̂Ḛ̶̱͎̳̮͚͖̥̫͕͔̱̂́̀͒̈́͑̈͒̌͠ ̶̬̞͊̀͒͊͐͌̊̽̈͘͘L̸̡͖̠͓̞̪̠̭͇̪̓̈́Į̵̜̟̘̺̙̙͊̃͗͗V̸̺̦̙̮͕̺̩̪͊͝ͅĘ̵͈̻̜͉̱͓̮́̒̿̾͆̓͜͝͝S̸̖̹̜͈̙̪̓͗̒͘͠ ̵̝̙̬͔̈́̒̀̊̊̂͘͝O̴̧̨̡̻͚̯̪̰͈̳̦̺͕̺͚͛͌́̉͛͑̆̚F̸͚̈́͋͐͐̈̒̚͘͝ ̴̼̘̖̻̽͑̇̀̉͊̈́̒̓̇̄̔̋͌I̴͚͈̙̞̹͈̺͈̱̋̋̂͊͂̊͐̎͌͠ͅN̴͇͑̽̾̄͗̃̄̂͒̾͝͝͝͝͠N̵̥̣̖͕̟͍̰̏̌͂̿̾͘͝͠O̸̠͂͐͒C̴̨̩̰̤͚̜͍̭̱͙̞̻̩̖̄́͋̓̀́̈́̏Ẹ̷͙̪̫̹̦̫̼̐͛̐̆̾̇N̶͖͉̯̬̩̣̞̄̓̄̾̃̀̔͆͊̉̊͆̍̚T̷̢̛̺̱̼̆͗͑͒́̀̈́S̵̛̱̹̤̺͉͍͙̞̬̤̈́̄̀̀̋̓̾͘ͅͅ

>>7227752
Shit, I'll have to try it out of curiosity. How do the control bindings work?

spit wads?

September 30 or October 10?
Which is the correct Doom 2 release date?

>>7227825
Strafe aith shoulder buttons, move with Dpad, shit and piss with A and B, select changes items

>>7227793
I just apologized for overlooking JMX entirely, how the fuck did I shit on it? Does your pigeon brain only works in terms of shitting on things?

Also I wrote the cacoward dedication for REKKR and directly worked on SIGIL, so literally anyone else is a better person to objectively compare the two things.

>>7227724
They were supposed to be the same as shotgun in q1, but they dropped it. Some clients support muzzle flashes, sadly rampage on q2pro still not, but will.

>>7227832
YOU SHIT ON IT BY OVERLOOKING IT, you shit all over the creators head. How fucking dense are you trannys?

>>7227832
You directly worked on SIGIL in what way?

>>7227683
Where do I find these reviews?

>>7227716
Not bad, but looks too drawn, and I hate that look, especially after sc2, d3 etc.

>>7227846
idgames archive

>>7227832
I'm just giving you shit. Give us insights into the thought process behind what gets an award and what just gets an HM.

does anyone have audio of the cultist chanting in the background of those last few blood levels?

>>7227702
Prove your identity or fuck off.

>>7227716
That looks pretty neat. Really hammers home that the dog strogg medic/parasite fuckers are humans contorted in an abominable way.

>>7227660
where to get those files?

>>7227717
Anyone? Please?

These fire dogs in Blood's third episode are really annoying and I almost want to stop playing.

>>7227783
> take seriously
> antaresian reliquery

nice larp

gtfo

>>7227871
They're more vulnerable to the Tesla Cannon

>>7227842
This person in all likelihood isn't dew, so they didn't. It's not hard to prove it.
dew did testing for sigil and offered suggestions and tips up to romero. I don't know how directly that counts, but what the fuck ever.

>>7227849
I don't see it. Can you link it?

anyone know how to adjust the text that says "select a skill to level up" in wrath of cronos? I find it really annoying where it is

I know its a random question.

>>7227764
Nah its okay.

>>7227879
JC Denton: That helps a little.

>>7227752
I thought it was the definition of Nothing Special, the weapons aren't interesting, the enemies aren't interesting, and the levels aren't interesting. The combat is simplistic and dull, a bit like Wolfenstein 3D but without the cartoony charm, and the resolution is tiny so you can't see shit.

At least the port of Doom 2 is still pretty much Doom 2, some limitations aside.

>>7227897
>and the levels aren't interesting
some of the levels stand out, like area 51, duke burger, blah blah. Not many though.

>>7227842
>>7227883
I was doing comment-only testing initially, but the process got more involved eventually and more people were brought on. In the end it was pinging map edits at 4am on slack. e5m2 is most certainly a save from my nodebuild, because that's me punching the baron in demo1.

>>7227717
>>7227870
Not retro eurocock.

>>7227871
Theyre the only enemy besides the cultists thats actually threatening. Which makes them well-designed.

>>7227870
here u go br0

>>7227929
https://www.mediafire.com/file/i04eygiiokttiyy/ULTRAKILL.rar/file

Anyone?>>7227828

>>7227928
I think I'd like them more without the lingering flame aspect. You're right that they're really threatening, but it's a big jump from sprayflaming fatties, then you turn a corner and Ornstein and Smough are right there.

Blood is overrated.

Blood is underrated.

High Blood pressure is dangerous to your health

>>7227957
lol no

>>7227968
lol yes

>>7227852
There are obvious awards. Your Ancient Aliens, Eviternities, Buttsexes. This year the absolute top shelf was a bit more shaky, but no one contensted Abandon, Bastion of Chaos, Faithless or Mutabor. Then you fill out the "oh, of course", which was Syringe, Running Late 2 and Antaresian Reliquiary (seethe in hell).

Then the real work starts. You're at 7 musts, and you're working with like 20 potential HMs, because those need to be culled too. Interestingly enough, Rowdy Rudy was a very fast lock-in, but there was a lot of haggling involving Ar-Luminae, Mapwich 2, 3iaC and I believe G&G.

Basically the "6-15"th tier is fluid until late into the decision making. It's not easy to decide "the last cacoward" and "the first HM', even if we don't mark them as that. At one point I also threatened to cancel the DM awards and that'd shift DoomWare into the main awards.. well, a fun mind experiment.

Any more questions?

Blood is GEROXE BIBOX MALAX

>>7227957
HAHAHAHA

>>7227950
There's definitely a tinge of it. The game skates by on Caleb, the cultists, and the aesthetics/tone. The gargoyles and ghouls who fly in the air for 30 seconds at a time before descending so you can kill them is embarrassing. The zombies are absolutely not a threat ever, but at least the fat guys are fun to kill because that's true in any medium. Episode two was really hit and miss, like that one room with the gray gargoyle which you can totally just leave alone and exit the level. These fire dogs are a check to make sure you saved enough tesla ammunition, episode two's boss on Well Done has two of the spider bitch, but killing one will end the episode. How did that get past testing?

I don't think Blood is bad in any sense of the word, but I can definitely say it's a touch overrated. When you're fighting cultists, it's the best parts of Half-Life's Surface Tension or F.E.A.R.'s moment to moment gameplay. Everything else feels like the devs threw up their hands and wanted to move on.

>>7227978
Why do you guys tolerate tranny shit so much? Genuinely curious.

>>7227989
>The gargoyles and ghouls who fly in the air for 30 seconds at a time before descending so you can kill them is embarrassing.
I agree, but you forgot to mention the fucking annoying sounds they make every two seconds.

>>7227978
Anta_req is a compilation of old maps from like 2017. Stuff like that was never awarded before, you set a weird precedent.
And it's not like the guy was "overdue" like ToD. Antares got his first Cacoward for a huge megawad, but a second for a random compilation of throwaways, I bet he couldn't believe his eyes.

>>7227989
>but at least the fat guys are fun to kill because that's true in any medium
heh

>>7228008
Trust me, I hate them as much as you guys do, but on DW you can't say anything even remotely bad about them or their projects or else you'll be banned from the community. I wish I didn't have to nominate some of these ghouls, but what can you do?

The RPing lately has been strong. Just go play some games, guys

>>7227978
>>7228008
>>7228072
Go larp somewhere else you fucking faggots.

>>7228105
it's probably alf desu

Whoop, here we go again, ROULETTE TIME!

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?random

>click link to get a random upload from idgames
>play it (as far as you want anyway)
>no need to finish it if you don't like it - it's supposed to be fun
>take at least one screenshot
>post a link to it here in reply afterwards
>tell us what you thought about it
>if you get a DM map, texture pack, or utility, etc, reroll

>>7227545
For playing Half Life? Didn't encounter any errors so far. The nice thing is that it requires only 3 dll files to run from, so you can shrink down your half life folder to just the .exe, 3 dlls and the 'valve' folder containing the game assets. Also you'll get more fps running xash compared to base half life. The Half-Life.7z from the Win98 link in OP is running on the latest official xash release by Uncle Mike (0.99).
There's a continuation (forked) of it called 'Xash 3D FWGS 0.20' but it gave me worse fps than the last official Xash. There's also the experimental XT release if you want to mess with the technical aspects of the engine.

How much can a player steer arch-vile jump? Should I worry about archvile from window on the right enabling jump to the left?

>>7227458
no thanks

Torment & Torture 1 was ok I guess. Don't really feel like playing the rest of them though.

no wonder these threads keep getting deleted when they are full of low effort offtopic bullshit personal drama
its just more time/effort efficient than trying to scrub the whole thing down

and THESE are the fuckwits that the rangebans let off the hook

>>7228273
can you even fit through that window?
whats preventing players from jumping from the right?

>>7227545
Failed experiment as far as I'm concerned unless you intend to play HL1 on your Switch.

>>7228314
I got confused it should be The other way around. Vile to the left, jump to the right.

>>7228340
i feel like map designers should always build maps around their own skill; otherwise it's just arbitrary whatever. if you can't do that jump, then whatever.

personally it looks like the narrow vertical height makes the jump extremely precise and unlikely.

For that guy who was looking for Juggernaut, I think I've got it working, never played this particular expansion but after going through the first couple levels and comparing to videos on youtube nothing seems to be broken.
I uploaded it here along with some other random old shit I found like Zaero and some Quake 1 stuff
https://mega.nz/folder/0mIU3JbC#D87kE4fNdnF223zCEna32w

why are there trannies all over the doom community.....

I think I am going to quit gaming...

Starting to go off pistol-starting. Think I might go back to continuous.

>>7228393
why?

>>7228309
Yeah, Lately these threads have been irritating to read.

>>7228404
The challenge is fun but sometimes shotgunning barons over and over gets very tedious.
It's not so bad in Doom 2.

>>7228380
look into the connection of autism and trannies. latest study finds autismos are 6 times as likely to be trannies

>>7228414
adult trannies prey on mentally deficient youth, trying to convert them to their self-harm cult

>>7228393
I like to do both. First playthrough of a mapset is continuous, and then second playthrough is pistol starts.

>>7228419
true, but then you got the 40yo autists that convert i.e lord havoc

>>7227592
>"official"
Where did you get that from? It was commercial, but never official.

>>7228412
I prefer continuous, but there's certainly an appeal in pistol starting.

>>7228412
Barons are rare enough in E2 and E3 that you can easily save rockets and cells for them.
Only really a few E4 levels where it can reach the point of having to shotgun barons, I felt.

>>7228412
>shotgunning barons over and over gets very tedious
What are you playing? Doom 1? I can't think of any places where you're forced to fight barons that you can't simply avoid, except for E2M6 where you can sometimes get blocked.

>>7228570
woops I was thinking of E1-E3 only

I play continuous because it was the way doom was meant to be played

>>7228590
>the way doom was meant to be played
Nah, you're thinking of brutal doom

>>7228412
dunno, i mostly play wads from the past 10 years, and rarely encounter this in a way that seems tedious

i'm pretty obsessed with pistol start. one thing i do however is when i beat a level pistol start, i play continuous from there until i died. mentally i keep track of all levels not beaten pistol start, and make sure to do so in case my "blind continuous" run beats levels.

>>7228593

Based Romero

Am I the only one that wakes up in the middle of the night with Dark Halls stuck in my head?

>>7228692
For me it's UT99 menu theme.

>>7228702
For me it's the damage sounds in q2 multiplayer

>>7228702
That's a really solid one, I think I might actually throw on the UT99 soundtrack since I can't sleep anyways.

Ah, the memories...
https://youtu.be/i_0G6WPuss4

>>7227863
>>7227847
that is how fatality, faces treated them after passed through its AI, both that and lollypop does wonders by making closer to the source art, and you don't need to blur it like gigapixel before upscaling it.


>>7227867
https://upscale.wiki/wiki/Model_Database
its piss easy to do it now thanks to IEU frontend

Arcane Dimensions almost got in 10th due to a bunch of crap
https://www.moddb.com/groups/2020-mod-of-the-year-awards/features/players-choice-mod-of-the-year-2020

Surprised there still isn't a mod where you play as Daisy

>>7228754
Wow, 2048 units of /vr/ didnt even get a mention?

>>7228758
A dollop of Daisy

>>7228776
Jesus Christ looking up a suitable image and I find a sour cream demon

>>7228775
just look at how toxic that shit is
and i have nothing against black mesa or C&C but this shit reeks of zooming

>>7228798
Literally none of those games are common zoomercore games you cum guzzler

>>7227534
Not an argument.

>>7228819
>Not an argument.
Not an argument.

>>7228823
Not an argument.

>>7228818
It is, in fact it can't even be said that is about modding anymore seeing how this top 10 was driven more by pure pop culture autism outside AD, mental omega and Project reality, which are the only good mods there.

>>7228832
>ad
>good mod
Zoom zoom zoom!

>>7228832
Actually all those games were chosen by wizened greybeards. Go be a reddit cuck somewhere else

Any entertaining quake map reviewers/players?

>>7227453

retarded nigger

>>7228885
Metroid Pozz fails stupendously at both being a shooter and being a Metroid game. The only thing it has going for it is cool graphics, just like every other boring zoomer game.

>>7228889
Zoomers weren't even alive when metroid prime came out you old faggot

>>7228903
Yet here you are.... curious.

>>7227453
Delusional. Quit consooming marketing like it's gospel.

>>7228290
yeah no not touchin

>>7227760
Why is the PC version so shitty compared to the console ports???
Also, HD remaster when?

>>7228958
Because it was made early using a shitteist early version of build.
and sony being niggers forbade them to make a new game with the new engine

>>7228751
Nah just wanted to compare the texture results.

Give me your unit1 sky, and Soldier textures.

>>7228974
i've uploaded it here a few threads ago

>>7228978
Obviously wasn't here few threads ago.

>>7227125
>>7227125
>You only have PS2?
>atm
Ok, thanks i will look that version. but theres not native port for this console? i mean, the source code "exist" to compile on other systems or not?

>>7228982
No, native port was done for ps2 which is kinda odd.

>>7228754
>>7228775
>>7228798
>>7228818
>>7228832
Is bellyaching about stupid fucking awards that don't matter really what this general will be about from now on? Are you people really such whiny cocksuckers?

why is doom full of autists?

>>7227458
>Published by TransRightsForever (mod ID: 177277)

>>7227458
>made by a death cultist
No thanks

>>7227439
Duke Nukem is so nice. Why did we have to have such a shitty game from gearbox?

Someone has to pick him up and do him right this time. The old world weary Duke idea would be funny as fuck.

>>7229095
I thought doom was full of demons

has anyone done a classic version of the eye turrets from doom eternal?
i assume there could be two ways of doing it
1 an invencible prop that can be attacked/killed when the eye shows up in the sprites/animations
2 using pillar sectors/walls to hide an elevator going up/down, with a hole in the middle, so the eye can pop up and it's an stationary actor with health

>>7229158
autist demons. are those a thing?

>>7229183
Helltaker exists.

>>7227825

>>7229167
i thought HD had them
sort of

>>7228702
It's cool, I'll do a remaster someday of it.

>>7227760
Only game in existence where you get M60 early and use it to kill fucking scorpions

>>7227934
>>7227929
Thank you friend!

>>7227989
Fuck you, Blod is amazing

>>7228114
>implying I'd waste my time LARPing as some trannys from cringeworld
Come on. I don't even know who is prominent enough there to LARP as.

how is ion fury

>>7229397
Kicks ass but turn Shelly's voicelines off, they repeat way too often and sound cringey in general. Also the devs are fags for demanding people not rip their sprites.

>>7229407
But the devs are also based for getting caught shitting on trannies in their Discord. They bent the knee HARD when caught, they even gave some of the games profits to some faggot organization. They still get called cucks though for doing it and bigots by trannies regardless of their apologizes.

>>7229397
My thoughts
-devs were absolute madmen for actually using the jankfest Build engine instead of Unity or Unreal or other soulless modern shit
-everything is super ultra detailed, to the point of being overdone. So full of crap everywhere that it's clear that despite the engine it really isn't something that could run in 90s PCs.
-very obscure secrets, don't count on finding even half of them without using a guide.
-arsenal is meh, at least every weapon has it's purpose, none is useless
-enemy variety is also meh, too much repetition
-the game is a tad too long, kinda overstays it's welcome
-not very memorable at all, no moments stand out, so much that no one gives a fuck about it a mere year after the game's release

A typical 6/10 game, 7/10 for old-school enthusiasts

>>7229397
Devs played it too safe. Build Trilogy has so much charisma because devs were always trying to push the envelope in every regard, not being concerned if it comes out janky or offensive. Just look at the protagonists - Dook was self-assorbed asshole, Lo Wang was yakuza hitman, a racist caricature and a dirty old man, and Caleb was a fucking undead cannibal cultist. And that's why we love them so much. Meanwhile Shelly has potty mouth, and that's pretty much it?

>>7229397
Its beautiful but kinda boring.

But damn its build beautiful-

With a better main character and antagonist it would have been the game of the year for me.

You know Carmack was pirating a ton of shit as a youth, motherfucker got caught breaking into his school to steal Apple IIs using thermite he made in chemistry class to burn through the glass of the window so it wouldn't set off the alarm (unfortunately another kid with him just got impatient and opened the window anyway which is how they got caught)

>>7229449
>-devs were absolute madmen for actually using the jankfest Build engine instead of Unity or Unreal or other soulless modern shit

Not to say either one is superior/inferior, but I wonder if you could make a game that looks exactly like a Build engine game to a T with Unity or Unreal? Obviously a different aesthetic, but Dusk was made on the former engine and that almost looked exactly like it was an old FPS game engine from the mid-late 90s on a modern source port. I also remember back when Dusk was still in development it had some graphical features that emulated the kinda shit you'd see in a fugly-ass Darkplaces-esque port with """HD""" models n shit. It was obviously a joke thing, and I'm sure it was never intended for the final release compared to the rendering features we got in the final release, but it'd be cool if said features were still in the final release even if just for a esoteric jab at certain source ports.

>>7229482
>Build engine game to a T with Unity or Unreal?
Yes it could be done but the feel of it would never be quite the same, the gameplay would feel off

>>7229449
>arsenal is meh, at least every weapon has it's purpose, none is useless
The guns are like those counterfeit Christmas decorations that look exactly like real ones but bring you no cheer. I liked how they looked, how they played, their mechanics, and yet ultimately they were just not as exciting as, say, that one stupid double-barrel shotgun with four frames of animations that make no sense.

>>7229476
If I ever make any money from my game I will order him a pizza.

>>7229482
You could.

And honestly with modern engine stuff like physics a game looking like Ion Fury would be fucking amazing.

>>7227449
Not FPS

>>7227589
Looks like shit.

>>7229510
elaborate

>>7229489
>>7229505
I'd imagine it'd come down to how the movement feels, the impact of explosions, and animations of the weapons and enemies, more or less. I don't know much about programming, but for the first two things I would assume you'd have to do some real code fuckery to make them feel as "non-Unity or Unreal" as possible if that makes sense. It'd be a lot more effort than simply using the Build engine itself, cus even if you have to deal with its supposedly wonky coding, at least the basics of a Build engine game are literally right there, and all you'd need to do would be to tweak the code a bit to get everything else just right. As for the third thing that would come down to one's artistic and sound mixing skills.

>>7228958
It isn't. It just plays very different. It also was developed long before the console ports.

>>7229514
Its possible anon you can do anything in unity or unreal. It all comes down to your skill.

>>7229491
The guns and overall aesthetic are the main strong points of Ion Fury. Its sleek as fuck.

Although some of the enemies like the spiders and flying ones are kinda meh.

>>7229407
theyve been spriteripped for forever and a half, i think someone clarified they don't care anymore a few threads ago
>>7229410
devs are spineless wimps for not sticking to their guns. culture war victims fed into the meatgrinder of "you can never be forgiven for these text messages" while the Based Patrol sat by. But that's not vidya
>>7229449
this is pretty spot on, game is kinda weak in separating itself from the chaff. it feels like they went "what if we made a game in Build but it's >2019". at the very least you can tell they really tried, esp. with assets even if their final use was meh

>>7227439
TO THE GUY WHO POSTED THE BUILDGDX / BLOODGDX LINKS IN THE LAST THREAD:
>https://www23.zippyshare.com/v/FvtOvgig/file.html
>https://www8.zippyshare.com/v/1KCMXkV5/file.html
>https://www56.zippyshare.com/v/90O9cIvO/file.html

What even is all this? What do I do with these to make them work. I can't figure out why there are so many files and where everything is supposed to go and how to make everything work.

>>7229519
I didn't had that much problem with them, actually. Quadcopters have their sound design completely fucked, though - they should have used projectile impact sound for their firing sound instead.

Anyway, the big problem with roster is that it lacks those enemies that dominate the encounters, unnerving you with their very presence and making you focus them above all. Like archviles or Blood cultists. There are warmechs, but they are more of a cyberdemon/mini-battlelord counterparts, and they are very rare.

>>7224572

The second map is coming along nicely.

>>7229541
Mech is great.

The regular soldiers also look good.

Although I heavily dislike how they sound, and their sprite death animation. It lacks flair.

>>7229540
Also, why does BuildGDX with JRE appear to be version 1.15? That's not old? Seriously, I'm confused as fuck about what I need and what I don't need and what I need to do with them for everything to work perfectly.

Quake is amazing, but the boss battle is fucking shit, in classic id fashion. You don't even get to mutilate the thing. E1 boss was more of a boss than this. All they had to do was place a bullet sponge in the middle of an arena and make it chuck projectiles or some shit. Was really hyped after collecting all the runes. Didn't feel like a fight against an eldritch horror at all. It wasn't a fight, but an execution. Even Icon of Sin was better, and it was shit.
10/10 game, beautiful models, OST by fucking NIN, some really scary moments, great gameplay and map design.
Fuck spawns, holy shit, these things can go suck a dick. The last levels are hell, had to save.

what is his endgame?

>>7229552
Soldiers look good, but they're not that dangerous, in my opinion. They're closer to Doom former humans/sergeants/chaingunners than to typical Build holy-fucking-shit hitscanners.

How to make caves in Doom:
> Make a large room
> Texture it as a rock
> Start crying.

>>7229567
They are fun to blast. I am glad they did not go heavy hit scan.

The grenade ones are scary if you dont know how to play.

What is your favorite Doom level theme?
>techbase
>techhell
>brick and brimstone hell
>wood and marble hell
>Doom 2 techbase
>city/industrial/brown brick
>plutonia
>wolfenstein
>egyptian

What is your favorite Quake level theme?
>techbase
>wizard
>terracotta
>runic
>elder world

>>7229562
My thoughts exactly.

>>7229519
very true.

>>7229581

>>7229524
Spritework on a level that no Doom sprite wrangler has reached yet, so they blatantly steal everything that isn't bolted down (or encrypted).

>>7229462
The "playing it safe" issue extends to the level design as well. The levels are all definitely well-designed, but there's no really memorable, non-linear layouts like in the original Build trio. Also they added Half-Life style map transitions but only used for revisiting levels it like once.
Still a good game though.

>>7229594
Wasn't it made by same people who are now developing Supplice?

>>7229576
>Doom
Plutonia
>Quake
Wizard

>>7229603
Their twitter says nothing.
https://twitter.com/SuppliceGame

Half-life is a great cinematic game. An MIT graduate is an interesting break from your usual retro musclehead.

>>7229624
The best thing about it is the Mist like quality the alien invasion has.

I like to think the mist is during the resonance cascade.

>>7229576
Tech hell/Runic

>>7229624
It's the only retro fps worth playing.

>>7229587
>>7229594
to be fair, beyond works made out of dedication/labors of love, spritework is a bit of a cunt when you aren't getting paid to go all the way in on it 24/7

>>7229630
>the Mist
Great comparison, it fits. It's so alien and unknown. They should've added Mr. Friendly and more guys like him.
>>7229576
>doom
base
techhell
everything else

>quake
base
wizard
terracotta
runic
elder world

>>7229643
Come on, man.

>>7229562
The Cyberdemon boss fight in Doom 1 is kino as fuck and will always been the most iconic one in the series, even moreso than the Spider Mastermind

>>7229659
And its not typical aliens, its a "borderworld" dimension shenanigans.

>>7229624
>>7229630
Gaydon Fagman is the worst protag of any 90s FPS

>>7229665
/vr/ ill needs a troll such as you

Dwars released a new episode in his longform scripted review series on FPS, it's on Mars 3D:
https://youtu.be/Vw-8EvsifbI

I like these so far, much better than his unscripted autistic narration of gameplay

>>7229661
Agreed, and Barons, too.

>>7229675
why would you watch a furry's channel

>>7229679
The Bruiser Brothers, yeah that one is too but it loses alot of magic once you start fighting them all the time and then go back

Speaking of Half-Life, the Steam version any good? What about opfor and blue shift?

>>7229683
There's no furry shit in his videos, as long as he keeps degeneracy out of it I don't care, not like there is much else content on this game besides a short review or two and gameplay videos

>>7229691
Also, what's the original resolution? Got a CRT and everything.

>>7229675
Is this mongoloid lazy enunciation speech a regional thing? Saying "da" for "the" etc? I called out EZ PZ, another YouTuber who does this, in the comments of one of his videos and he claimed it was an "accent"

>>7229706
Some people just talk funny.

>>7229691
steam version used to have some problems but they've all been patched up by now, plus the deathmatch is fairly active. same goes for the expansions, no issues i've noticed
>>7229701
would've depended on your video card but 640x480 is pretty average. might want to switch to software renderer too

>>7229706
>claimed it was an "accent"
sometimes anon, people speak differently than you. go listen to people from the UK a bit. if that's too hard maybe go look at some warhammer orks until you can handle hearing words pronounced weird

>>7229727
These people are native American English speakers, saying "da" for "the" is fucking lazy.

>>7229693
Cant be worse than the sphere hunter.

If I learned Build instead, I could've made this whole thing explode.

>>7229397
Solid 8/10 shooter. Biggest complaint is that Shelly needs more personality. And it's not like the VA is dead, they could go back and record lines right now goddammit.

>>7229712
Thanks, anon.

Is there a way to play blood on linux other than dosbox?

>>7229738
She also needs a sprite like that fan art I have seen of her here.

>>7228856
There's a sizeable charismatic void in the Quake community for a singular, Decino-like entity to commentate on Quake maps. Many people try, but it comes back to that charismatic void.
>>7229735
What's stopping you shitheel?

>>7229735
just use acs

>>7229571
Pain. My current process is block-out, add in basic features (landmarks, elevation changes, structures for enemies), and then try to continue shining up textures/level features as I get ideas/see where I want to go. Hard part is not killing myself because it looks like unfinished shit/getting distracted by detailing shit that can wait.

>>7229781
Penis.

>>7229781
>>7229571
Play the Autmn Doomerboards project for cave porn.

>>7229781
Looks like a cock

you guys need to step off the porn if you think that looks like a cock

>>7229741
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/7x9u67/blood_on_linux_via_bloodgdx/

>>7229817
Anon it looks like a cock .

Its good luck actually keep up.

>>7229741
Nblood is for Linux isn't it?

>>7229817
That's DEFINITELY a shaft with a head in the middle. The balls are less distinct.

>>7229735
If it's at the end of a level, can't you crush Romero's head for a similar effect? (There might be some way to silently teleport in exploding barrels too.)

>>7229821
i'm not the map creator

i'm just making fun of all of you

I am replaying Max Payne 2 and it's a LOT of fun.

I did a continuous playthrough recently but I didn't enjoy it as much because I felt I was forced to savescum too much because of all the ambushes. But I am re-playing the game in New York Minute game-mode, which is basically like Doom pistol starts - you lose all your guns, but for me the important thing is you restart with 100% health, so you can blast your way through levels and not worry about low health biting you in the ass later, which is what happened to me repeatedly in my continuous playthrough. New York Minute is a speedrun gamemode but all that changes is you can see your time for each level, and replaying the game this way is super fun because playing without saves is funner in general. Also you can skip all the shitty empty sections and just grind the fun sections, pic related. Part 2, Chapters 2-6, are REALLY good. You can launch the game with the -developer parameter to unlock all game modes right away if you want

>>7229838
Told you last thread.

Both are amazingly well done. Hold up really well.

I wish they had kept max face the same in 2 however.

>>7229735
>>7229829
The Quake engine with maphacks can let you trigger explosions. Maybe that'd be possible with the Doom engine? The explosions from barrels and Romero's head have to come from somewhere.
>>7229781
That's a penis

>>7229838
I never mind saving in video games. Saveless runs are for recording demos.

>>7229781
The whole thing seems to be made up of cocks

>>7229816
>>7229803
Ye I know, I actually thought it kinda looked like a uterus before I made it less uterus-y with the top left-middle bits but those look like a nutsack. Eventually the "shaft" will have caves off to the sides, and when the outlet for the river is done it'll be a sort of wide shallows into more caves. I'm in the air as to whether I want a ruins-jungle type thing, or if it's going to lead into a nestled in long overrun techbase partially integrated into the cave network.

>>7229853
haha benis :DD

>>7229781

>>7229842
In vanilla you can't do much.

>>7229829
It's not. It's a fake exit and you'll have to climb up for the real one.

>>7229576
Doom
>Egypt
>Peterson's abstract hell

Quake
>idk what it's called but basically the metal theme most American McGee's maps had

>>7229850
Well, imagine you are 1-shot from death and there are no health pick-ups for the next few sections. You are forced to save after each encounter, otherwise you replay these same few sections over and over and over until you play perfectly and get the health. It just feels icky having to play perfectly for a few seconds, then save, then load over and over until you beat the next section, just because you are low on health.

No-saves pistol-starts is so cool because while you are learning the level, you can do well and get really far and die, then, on your next try, you totally fudge a section that you previously mastered because you weren't focusing. It feels like an extra layer of chaos/randomness since you won't get the exact same experience twice in a row, unless your run is already optimized which takes a while

>>7229872
What Doom levels have Egyptian themes? I thought only Powerslave and later Serious Sam did that

>>7229872
drop everything there's a new sandy vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLjItuywhoI

>>7229878
TNT Evolution has an Egypt themed secret map.

>>7229852
The benis is the most basic structure of life.

>>7229882
>TNT Evilution? More like HRT Poopilution, it's fucking boring! What? No, I didn't get "filtered", i-it's just boring and I refuse to play it!

>>7229878
I don't know about Doom, but how did you miss Dissolution of Eternity?

>>7229890
Egypt is such a good setting for shooters.

>>7229876
>otherwise you replay these same few sections over and over and over until you play perfectly and get the health.
That sounds fun though.

>>7229889
He loves Plutonia the most, so it's unlikely TNT filtered him. Maybe TNT is just a boring slog?

>>7229890
I was thinking more in terms of games and not expansions but yes you are correct

>>7229902
>TNT a boring slough
If you're a fucking scrub with shit taste

>>7229905
Cope. I played through all 4 of OG Wads for the first time a few months ago and TNT was the worst by far.

>>7229915
>first time
>months ago
Shoo shoo smelly newfag

>>7229916
People gotta play them eventually.

Ross from Accursed Farms just uploaded a new hour long Game Dungeon review of SiN:
https://youtu.be/evvqlj2Kk6Q

>>7229852
The blue part kind of looks like a high heel with the leg bones up to the kneecap.
>>7229863
Well shit. I guess it's fine as it is, but the only other thing I can think of involving explosions is to have a monster (a chaingunner probably would work best) located behind a barrel, and hope for it to detonate before the player notices.

>>7229931
It's true to vanilla form to have rocks lower for no reason. I just thought how cooler it would be if there was a reason.

>>7229576
Techbase
Doom2 Techbase
And Egyptian.

>>7229878
I've mostly had fanmade stuff like Epic 2 or Scythe 2's second episode in mind, since the the Egyptian theme was mentioned in the original post. That TNT secret map is also pretty cool.

>>7229506
okay retard

>>7229576
>What is your favorite Doom level theme?
Hellbase.

>What is your favorite Quake level theme?
Quake levels have themes?

>>7229878
> later serious sam
you mean from the very beginning?

>>7229962
t. brainlet

>>7229945
In a map I playtested a while back (I think it was called Jungle Attack) an anon made a radio with wires connecting to where walls would fall. Maybe you could do something similar to that.

>>7229974
I'm using vanilla textures so there's not much in the wire department.

Are the mods here DW trannies? I made one critical post about dew being critical of us and my post was deleted

>>7229829
in vanilla no, but you could just make a deh file that makes a dummy romero head out of the useless "dead lost soul" thing.

>>7229980
You could try to make something that resembles a wire using some small sector detailing or maybe a 2-4 units wide section of a wall with a texture that looks somewhat like a wire.