/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
500ml of /vr/
BETA, UPDATED:
https://archive.org/details/500ml-vr-halloween-beta
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/7041037/#7043379
https://discord.gg/F968y8Wj4x

=== NEWS ===
[12-26] New SC-55 soundfont released:
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118828-the-most-accurate-sc-55-soundfont-out-now/

[12-24] DBP31: Santa's Outback Bender for the 3rd annual Doomer Boards Project Christmas extravaganza released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118801-dbp31-santas-outback-bender/

[12-22] Gearbox reaches a settlement with Bobby Prince over the use of his music tracks in Duke Nukem 3D: Anniversary Edition https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2020-12-21-gearbox-reaches-settlement-with-bobby-prince-over-duke-nukem-music

[12-22] Markshan Knightmare has released a Updated installer for the Window of Retribution community Mission pack for Q2
https://leray.proboards.com/thread/3867/re-windows-retaliation?page=1&scrollTo=28875

[12-21] Anon made and shares an Episode 1 style level
https://mega.nz/file/mrZViaIZ#MLHFdce2Eb2zdBQUbTFTaz4pHuyKdJd__ZRPh3uxp9w

[12-20] Quake Xmas Jam 2020 Released
https://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61995

[12-20] Mission64 a Quake 2 64 missionpack for Q2 was released
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/mission-64

[12-20] DSDA 10.0 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118074-dsda-doom-source-port-v0100/

[12-19] TerminusEst13 releases a 7DFPS GZDoom project, Kid 4 $29.99.
https://terminusest13.itch.io/kid-4-2999

[12-19] Snap the Sentinel, a short standalone 7DFPS IWAD made for GZDoom inspired by SNES/Genesis games released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118627-gzdoom-snap-the-sentinel-~-short-new-iwad-for-7dfps/
https://tehrealsalt.itch.io/snap-the-sentinel

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I like penis, it's a personal weapon.

Valiant but every other enemy beside the Arachnotron also has a "second" phase

>>7223468

WHY IS THE STRONGEST ENEMY IN GMOTA THE LOST SOUL

>>7223456
>>original Doom
>>impossible on UV
>Just wait until you try Plutonia. I don't think there's any non-TAS demos up yet for UV and I doubt that will change.
I've definitely beat a couple of earlier levels on UV.

>>7223467
I like:
Black cock
Doom
Doom general
Not necessarily in that order. ;)

Bit fucking early, mate. Anyway, I'll post this again because I was having fun, ROULETTE TIME!

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?random

>click link to get a random upload from idgames
>play it (as far as you want anyway)
>no need to finish it if you don't like it - it's supposed to be fun
>take at least one screenshot
>post a link to it here in reply afterwards
>tell us what you thought about it
>if you get a DM map, texture pack, or utility, etc, reroll

>>7223476
I think they're just trolling.

what does anyone think of doom 2 rpg's "hd" assets?
>>7222831
did the reaper doom minis ever had official colored versions or where they all grey?

El Oshcuro, the man behind Dusk: based or cringe?

>>7223494
Nah you haven't played Plutonia. Although the second one is even more fucked up

>>7223501
cringe because he didn't make it. that was szymanski

>>7222614
>>7222896
I will take that as "no, there is no way, download it ilegally instead".

Anyone know where these weird enemies originate from? This is the second wad I've played where I've encountered them.

>>7223476
>>7223476
>>7223508
plutonia 1 on UV is fine

plutonia 2 indeed hard

http://mekworx.the-powerhouse.net/2020/12/27/heres-my-last-minute-yearly-update-post/

>>7223540
nice teeth.

>>7223543
Same with original Ultimate Doom and Doom II

Paid 5 bux for picrel on Steam the other day. Am I going to need to mod it in anyway to play it on w10? Yes, I probably should have looked that up before adding it to the cart along with the other stuff.

>>7223475
Hah

>>7223495
I think they look kind of like shit on a glance, but I guess for a turnbased game they're fine.

Was Daikatana TRULY as bad as it is made out to be or is Romero right when he says it isn't a bad game if you learn how the companion AI works?

>>7223569
Yes anon, have you played it? For the year it came out it was fucking lame. Not a terrible game, but one has to remember there was HL, Unreal 1, sin, kingpin, deus ex SS2, etc so many other fps popping up it felt honestly really mediocre which is a greater issue.

>>7223569
The game isn't that bad, BUT;
>the companion AI is completely trash, Romero is wrong about it
>the game shipped buggy as fuck
>the marketing and delays combined to piss people off
If you patch out the bugs, and if you patch out the AI companions, it's pretty decent, if nothing exceptional. Apparently the deatmatch is supposed to be pretty good.

Anyone got a mega.nz upload of Wrath: Aeon of Ruin?

>>7223590
It does even have decent grills in it.

>>7223569
I think it would've been fucking awesome had they got it out in 98 or 99 on the Quake 1 engine. I don't think changing over to the Quake II engine just because John fucking played it all the way through the night it released in one sitting and said it was the best FPS ever made and had to have the engine cuz colored lighting bro lmao, yeah no the massive delay was not worth it

>>7223501
Like >>7223509 said, Szymanski gets primary credit for Dusk.
Oshry, based off his attitude towards people ripping assets from NB games, is based.

Why doesn't Dusk Dude have fucking hands? Would it be difficult to put models for hands holding the guns in?

>>7223501
Cringe in general because he can't stop posting pictures of himself making that stupid fucking smirk face.
Also he can't keep politics off his twitter, which would be fine if it weren't essentially his business account too.
But he bankrolls some cool games, so he aight. Just don't track his twitter if anything I said is a peeve for you.

Also, like >>7223509 said, he didn't make shit. He just runs the publishing house.

>>7223636
Damn, that's pretty fucking cool. Was that from an email you sent yourself?

>>7223609
The idea is nice, time travelling shenanigans. I like the art design as well.

It could have been a classic.

>>7223569
It's not as bad as people say, but it's not as good as it should've been.

>>7223636
That's the one thing I'll say for him and his company is that they don't give a fuck about the things they shouldn't. Can't say that for most companies. Legal teams are always looking for work.

>>7223637
Nor reload animations.
But the ones in gloomwwod are nice.

My only dislike are the low poly models. The game actually creates a really nice and sometimes dark ambiance.

I think they could have actually gone for some more serious and less silly.

When I got to NeobabelI was all pumped up.

>>7223647
Yeah, asked if I can rip textures and use them in doom mods with attribution. I knew they'd be cool with it to some extent but was blown away by his frank response.

>Quake

Eww...

>>7223508
>you haven't played Plutonia
I've beaten plutonia on UV.
> I don't think there's any non-TAS demos up yet for UV and I doubt that will change.
is still trolling, because theres plenty of non-TAS demos for it. Even for NM difficulty.

>>7223501
>the man behind dusk
He's a PR guy at best.

>>7223697
Dusk would be unknown if not for him

>>7223540
You can usually find these enemies at Realm 667.

>>7223758
Whats the best place for user made Wolfenstein 3D sprites? I like to just look at that stuff sometimes.

>>7223279
looked at it, and its an older version of TAD expansion
Jimmy's one has one dated with the latest update in 2005 that comes with tad.

it wouldn't be a bad idea to reupload that and window of retaliation at moddb as a backup

Damn Map 28 of JPCP is alot more hectic than I remember it being

>>7223804
also crimson red mutants looks more terrifying as if their skin is pure flesh

>>7223598
Any game on gog can be gotten for free via gog-games.com
https://gog-games.com/game/wrath_aeon_of_ruin
If that's too dubious for you, I'll upload it myself.

>>7223540
In Pursuit of Greed.

>>7223598
>>7223825
Unzip and play. This is the latest early access version from my Steam, but the Steam version lets you play straight from the .exe instead of needing to run Steam.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/chuf0ep8dg32bi3/WRATH.zip/file
Next update isn't until February. OP feel free to stick this in the OP MEGA.

>>7223827
Thanks, anon.

>Pre Steam Half Life
>no music
Bros...

>>7223908
Do you have the music files? Or the CD?

>>7223669
I have no doubt in my mind that these guys cut their teeth on the Doom and Quake modding scenes, it's nice to see that mentality carry over to a company no matter how small it is.

>>7223935
Yep. The guy who made the Return of the Triad TC went on to do the ROTT 2013 remake and more importantly, Amid Evil.

Why Quake sucks so much?

>>7223459
>same pic again
Worthless shitposter

Planet Half Life > Trannyworld

>>7223501
Cringe

>>7223489
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/s-u/tnte1
I think what I got was the original Ultimate Torment & Torture entry from 2000 (updated 2006). Never played these, but I guess if I ever were get into them, the first one would be a suitable place to start.

Uses Quake textures all over, looks nice as a result. It's a ZDoom mapset, uses stuff like underwater and what not, uses silent teleporters for fake room over room stuff. Music track is some .mp3 or another, which is making me TENSE AS FUCK, because it's the same intense tension shit constantly, I'm pretty well armed and armored after a while but I still feel like Tormentor is going to lock me into a tight space whenever with some ACS scripted trap, which he kind of does, but the music makes the tension worse, so I'm crawling through the level carefully as shit. I think the music would have worked better if it had some more sections to it at times, so it wasn't so constant.

Decent challenge overall, starves you on ammo a bit but never to the extreme, though there was a part with a +STEALTH Arch-Vile, which is pretty bullshit (I played on HMP as it promised it'd be intense, overall seems it's about right for me). I'll have to go back to it in a bit, maybe I'll load up some alternative music or something, which doesn't put me on constant edge.

I just noticed that Doom 64 cyberdemons' rockets crash into the ground instead of flying parallel to the ground forever. What would that affect?

>>7223475
The Skuttles or the Knightmare variants, the Bakanites?

>>7224065
I think it's because they altered its angle so it looks more like it comes out of his arm gun, rather than from his cockhole. As a result, it doesn't always fly very straight.

>>7224071
both

pvs stuff kicked my ass but i can at least get basic portal rendering working and optimize it.

and maybe i'll eventually create a portal map editor, constructing a pvs from that is way easier than doom bsps.

I'm having some trouble with HudMessage. I'm trying to make it that the player activates the wall and a description pops up with the title in BIGFONT and the paragraph in SMALLFONT. Problem is when I do this it just defaults to the SMALLFONT description. Is there something I'm supposed to put in between them or at the bottom to make sure both appear?

>>7224094
Well I'm gonna be nerfing the Bakanites in the next update, but what's the problem with the Skuttles?

>>7223569
Even if the companion AI worked perfectly, the combat is mostly ass. I say mostly because every episode has a different set of weapons, and only 3/4ths are bad.
Really they shouldve just made one really polished weapon set instead of trying to make four.

>>7224113
cool cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6VpX-feA2M

>>7223908
The one in the win98 link? It does have cd music while playing

>>7224065
Speaking of, are there any decent Doom 64 monster replacements? Especially for pairing with the consolation prize mods. Been playing them with some stuff like samsara but it doesn't quite feel right with the vanilla monsters, and most of the replacers I've found are either buggy as hell or somewhat incomplete.

>>7224113
That screenshot reminds me about the stuff I did when I was younger (~15-20 years ago). Made my own Quake/Quake 2/Half-Life level renderers and from there, my own little engines. Tried everything from Quake BSPs to plain octree+portal engines. Even made my own level editor (that was garbage, but worked) for a pure portal engine. After Doom 3 was released, I wrote my own tiny vector GUI rendering system. Good times.

If only spare time wasn't so rare luxury these days, I'd do it all again because it was fun.

>>7223569
it says something that the late game content is some of the best because the weapons objectively suck less and work properly. everything else is mediocre and ho-hum or downright frustrating due to poor game design. and the story, for as much as they try to shove it in your face, is hilariously stupid for all the bluster it tries to have.

>>7223962
Because id made a fantasy game and slapped Doom weapons on it at the last minute.

>>7223459
Still looking for older versions of BuildGDX if anyone has them or knows where to get them. Alternatively, I'd be willing to accept stand-alone versions of BloodGDX if that's still a thing that exists.

And thanks again to the guy that posted the one old version of BuildGDX in the last thread. But again, always looking for others.

>>7223471
>not liking all 3 equally

>>7224370
Found these on my HDD:
https://www23.zippyshare.com/v/FvtOvgig/file.html

>>7224387
Also found BloodGDX, but not in original package - fetched it from my old install of Blood. From around March 2018 or so.
https://www8.zippyshare.com/v/1KCMXkV5/file.html

>>7224398
Cradle to grave

>>7224402
>>7224398
https://www56.zippyshare.com/v/90O9cIvO/file.html
My bad - forgot one jar file, it's from an even older version (date is from 2017) and I'm not sure if it's used by this one, but here it is.

>>7223957
How is the 2013 RotT remake compared to the original? I haven't played either, I've only tried the Return of the Triad TC for Doom and the textures hurt my eyes.

I might have gone a little overboard this time

>>>/wsg/3734625

>>7224439
If you made a joke sub-mod with tons of ridiculous shit like that it would be super fun

>>7224438

RotT and it's remake are not very good games

>inb4 the rott defence force shows up to say it's has grav lifts

>>7224451
It has good music

>>7224451
What do you not like about them? I've heard people criticize the 90 degree walls and the level design falling flat in the middle but I wanna know more

>>7223115
if you still need any ancient installers extracted i've got a crusty xp machine I could hook up, just link all the stuff you want and i'll get to it within an hour or two

>>7224467
Based XP bro. My buddy gifted me his old XP gaming laptop awhile ago, once I order up a proper charger for it I'll be set to hear that sweet startup music again.

>>7224458
Level design is the biggest, enemy roster also is full of boring sponges of hp, the weapon line up is "bullet hitscanner guns, or 5 variations on rocket launchers that you have swap out"
I don't hate rott but it's painfully mediocre.

>>7224382

I'm having trouble getting the music to work for kmquake2. It works fine for Yamagi and all my mods/mission packs I have installed, but the base game refuses to play music. Any tips?

>>7224439
HEHE

>>7224451
Level design can be dry in places, but I find it pretty enjoyable in an arcade way.

>>7224502
Nevermind, I fixed it. But there goes my next question, Yamagi or KM Quake?

>>7224439
Reminds me of the more shenanigany parts of Half-Life 2 SMOD.

>>7224481
Are there any interesting mods or mapsets? If not, maybe the new source port will inspire some modders who are vets of the game to map, implement and experiment around the game's strengths and break its weaknesses in hilarious ways.

>>7224534
*implement mechanics, sorry for double-posting

>>7218932

I cobbled together a couple of new weapons.

I will probably wait until i get the actual enemies and weapons down before i work on the next map.

>>7218932

I cobbled together a couple of new weapons.

I will probably wait until i get the actual enemies and weapons down before i work on the next map.

>>7224485
Hey hey, calm down

>>7224439
Nice.

>>7223603
Butterface

>>7224512
>in an arcade way
What does that even mean? It is designed to suck away your quarters while half-drunk nigger teens are hanging around?

>>7224673
it means it's only playable for 10 minutes before you get bored and switch to a different game.

>>7223569
The companion AI is what makes an otherwise meh game into a bad game.

If you use the unofficial 1.3 patch that allows removing companions from the game, it becomes a lot more tolerable.
Episode 1 is still terrible, though, and that's a big deal for obvious reasons (it's the first thing you'll get to see and play). And that's the part of the game that was actually made by Romero himself, to add insult to the injury.
The other three episodes, that were NOT touched by Romero, are a lot better, E3 being the best.

Any place here for a guy who misses the hell out of the Tribes games and would give anything to play Tribes 2 again? I think about Tribes 2 every single day and it hurts, bros.

>>7224681
doesn't sound like an arcade game designed to take every single penny of you

>>7223569
>>7224725

pretty much this.

I remember there was a bug in Episode 3 in v1.0. It was some form of electrical trap that was obviously supposed to kill you, but someone had forgot to add a negative, so instead it gave you massive amounts of health.

Furthermore the companion AI made the game nigh unbeatable because if you lost them - you lost the game. And they were fucking stupid, and would just run straight into swarms of enemies or more often than not get smashed in lifts and fie - or whatever.

I remember I used to play it Cooperative-mode just to get rid of the companions. Still had the cutscenes and everything.

>>7224673
The way that Rise Of The Triad is an extremely arcade-like game, counting score, featuring items which exist only for score, having extra lives, an emphasis on powerups, how weapons themselves are like powerups in that you most of the time pick one up and then use it up and it's depleted, to then go back to your infinite ammo base weapon, or to find another powerful weapon to use up.

Wolfenstein 3D had some arcade elements like that, though not all that many, Doom would scale back almost all of them, but then Rise Of The Triad goes the opposite direction and makes everything much more arcade-ish.

>>7224725
Kind of shocking, given that Romero is a really good level designer, and that it's probably his best talent. Perhaps that alleged cocaine use took its toll at the time?

Just finished the Quake Xmasjam 2020. Found it terrible, easily the worst iteration of any of these holiday jams, and a major downgrade from the 2019 edition.

My main gripe with it is that way too many levels involve fighting very powerful custom enemies, with huge splash damage, in cramped areas. It would still be doable if adequate amounts of ammo, health and weapons were provided to the player, but that isn't done.

>>7224861
for whatever reason in this one mappers were limited to 1024^3 units, and not a lot of them pull that off without feeling cramped

>>7224871
I've played all of these jams, most of them do have this 10243 restriction, and none of them other than the most recent iteration has this problem. No excuse.

>>7224861
Knowledge Is Not Made For Undestanding; slaughtershit
Village of Claws: slaughtershit of the worst type
All Is Dust: the entire map is one trap after another, doesn't help you start with 20 hp
Hrim Hrevenge: a nice map ruined by a slaughter arena at the end, worst than the Village of Claws one

>>7224845
Romero in interview
>"It is important that the first level in a game is fun, good-looking and technically impressive, because it is the first impression a player will ever have and will be a very important factor on the decision on whether the player likes the game or not"

Daikatana's first level, made by Romero

>>7224884
don't get me wrong, All Is Dust is a nice concept but they forgot what fun is

>>7224886
We all have our weak moments. Also success breeds complacency blah blah and so on.

>>7224884
Slaughtermap gameplay is for Doom, not Quake. Quake is NOT Doom. Enemies are bulletsponges, weapons are weaker, Quake enemies are fast and relentless, while Doom's enemies are slow and hampered by engine limitations. Mappers gotta understand this, keep mapping styles separate. Neither game has anything positive to gain by copying or taking inspiration from the other.

>>7224894
you can have a weak moment, not the entire game

>>7224884
>>7224891
I dunno about the others, but these AID criticisms are just you bitching to be desu. The Half-Quake mod trilogy, older than many people who post here, banks its fun on the idea of avoiding instant death traps.
>>7224895
Slaughtermaps are not alien to Quake.
>Enemies are bulletsponges
Arcane Dimensions has the Widowmaker, plasma gun, the rocket launcher, all mitigated by things like quad damage, and monster-infighting. Get out of here with your virgin Quake ass. Never played a custom map in your life.

>>7224894

Daikatana deserves all it's criticizes, just because some fan patches can make the games slightly more "playable" than on release, doesn't mean we get to ignore that games whole list of issues

>>7224897
It's not the entire game, fucking autistic nerd.

>>7224901
>proceeds to bitch

>>7224903
idgaf whiny bitch

brb parking my Lamborghini

>>7224901
how I know you didn't play any of those maps yet

>>7224901
>dat projection
Being marathoning Quake for quite some time. Played over 300 custom maps so far, and will be around 500 by the time I finish.

>Arcane Dimensions has the Widowmaker, plasma gun, the rocket launcher, all mitigated by things like quad damage, and monster-infighting.
I did say that it's doable, provided that adequate resources are given to the player, which this latest map pack we're complaining about often neglects to do.

>>7224908
Bitching about anons bitching does not equal bitching about designs, bitch.
>>7224912
Playing Village of Claws right now. It drops you a Widowmaker immediately after the first wave, along with a 100 health pack. You can get the minotaur to target the crossbowmen by getting them to shoot him. The gaunts go down in 10 nails each. Times like this I remember most people are genuinely bad at video games.
>provided that adequate resources are given to the player, which this latest map pack we're complaining about often neglects to do.
See above. Virgin Quake mother fuckers up in here.

>>7224919
You sound like one of the mappers of this terrible project. Sorry, buddy, your map, whatever it is, is not that good, fuck it, who are we kidding? Your map is complete, utter garbage, and I would definitely give you a piece of my mind if I saw you IRL.

Slaughter maps are overhated by babies.

>>7224901
>Arcane Dimensions has the Widowmaker, plasma gun, the rocket launcher
ok but of those weapons you only use the widowmaker on village of claws where you have 10 homing spiked bombs behind you before 2 shambler teleport in making impossible trying making them infight, this is not even at the end of the level
fuck off

>>7224923
Nah I'm just a dude who's better at Quake than you are. I'm right about to uninstall Xmasjam and never play it again because I'm genuinely not interested in it beyond this whimsical discussion and I hate the idea of that faggot blm map; I was just going for some validation at how utterly bad some of you are at video games and how much better I am. Thanks for the hardon you little bitch.
>>7224930
I literally, just before posting this, got the spike balls to hit the death knights. GodDAMN some of you people should not be playing video games holy fuck.

>>7224930
He plays on Easy and/or with god mode on. Sure it's easy that way, not being blown to pieces by splash damage/shambler lighting/vore spike projectile before getting to fire a gun thrice.

>>7224937
>I literally, just before posting this, got the spike balls to hit the death knights. GodDAMN some of you people should not be playing video games holy fuck.
post the video, not, seriously, and on Nightmare

>>7224937
you seem pretty badass do you have a blog i can subscribe to?

>>7224937
Post a video of your gameplay showing us how it's done, bitchboy. Nightmare difficulty only, please.

>>7224937
>I literally, just before posting this, got the spike balls to hit the death knights
I want to know how are you not being instantly fragged by the shamblers

>>7224926
Slaughtermaps are awesome, in Doom. That doesn't mean that every game other than Doom is suited for that.

>>7224895
>Slaughtermaps doesnt work on quake
Milous maps and quaketv says otherwise

also its funny how the quake discord circlejerk has shown up out of nowhere if they hate /vr/

>>7224953
I was talking Doom. I always like it when megawads end with them, instead going the icon of sin route.

Is there a mod to make the weapons in Quake 2 actually shoot at where the crosshair is? Every single one of them is significantly off and it makes the game a lot more annoying than it needs to be.

Been out of the loop. Is Xmasjam2020 any good?

>>7224967
It isn't, really it isnt.
not because of the political crap but the maps are shit.

>>7224965
make a new source port that fixes it

>>7224957
Never heard about either. Searching them says that Milous is for Q2, while quaketv seems to be some kind of broadcast. Da fuck you're talking about?

>>7224965
Turn off the crosshair and aim where the gun is actually pointing, zoomer.

>>7224901
>Slaughtermaps on Quake are fine because Arcane Dimensions
>Number of slaughtermaps in the actual Arcane Dimensions: 0

Your argument is complete nonsense

>>7224967
>Been out of the loop. Is Xmasjam2020 any good?
there are good maps and there are bad maps
there are walk in the park maps to go fuck yourself bitch maps
they all look good though

>>7224971
there is another quaketv
In fact its a neat recreation of SMASH TV in Q2
https://web.archive.org/web/20010123224100/http://www.planetquake.com/quaketv/

and milous maps are literal slaughtermaps with traps, with heavy use of KMQ2 and Lazarus features

>>7224965
in yamagi quake 2 you can use aimfix 1 in the console
not sure why id bothered to include a crosshair if it doesn't function as, you know, a crosshair should
alternatively just get used to it and aim to the left and above where you want to shoot every time

>>7225000
So it's also Quake 2. We're talking about Q1 here. Maybe Q2 is different, been a long time since I've played it, but slaughter gameplay doesn't mesh well with Q1.

>>7224909

its ok, as long as we learn from out mista....
>*notices "empire of sin" in the corner*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_asNhzXq72w

>>7224871
>for whatever reason in this one mappers were limited to 1024^3 units
Limiting size of the maps? Pffft, what a silly notion, nothing good can ever came out of it.

>>7225003
you can blame fag willits for that for rushing it

Q2's weapon position is ugly, and the projectile position is hard to deal with with unless its coded.
I think that one of the many many MP forks of Q2Pro fixed that because all YT demos and even jehar's tastyspleen Q2 tournament streams has modern 1st person camera looks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEl-1djktOM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWXeqAtEQo4

something like this would be great for both YQ2 and other ports

>>7224965
>actually shoot at where the crosshair is
But the crosshair is for looking at, not shooting at.

>>7225039
not everybody makes small maps well, as evidenced by this xmasjam

Does NBlood not have custom difficulty? I've only played the initial launch of it and I don't remember seeing it.

I kind of wanna play Pink on the Inside but with more enemies

>>7224467
Shit, i am tempted to ask you for an installed Juggernaut for Q2 but i know that it also has a weird way of storing .pk3s that makes it unplayable with Yamagi. And i want to try that addon.

>>7225113
Really? I got it working on my ultra toaster last month after a bit of fanaggling on Yamagi.

>>7225113
I remember seeing a fixed version of it some time ago

>>7225113
i can fuck around with it and see if i can't make it work, i've gotten interested in commercial quake/quake 2 addons so i'm thinking i might make a mega folder or something with as many in playable form as i can rustle up

>>7225108
BuildGDX.

>>7223460
>[12-26] New SC-55 soundfont released:
>https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118828-the-most-accurate-sc-55-soundfont-out-now/

I've tried it, using fluisynth under dosbox and virtualmidisynth under windows..
it's shit

>>7223567
Considering it was originally made for java dumbphones I'd say the graphics quality is pretty decent, although the fact that 90% of enemies are pallete swaps from original Doom/2 helps in that regard

>>7225145
use Dosbox ECE and dont use Fluidsynth
i've tested it with privateer and now it looks better than the previous sc55 that i had
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1S_Qn2gJSk

>>7224886
If there was at least one humanoid enemy on the whole first map instead of those weird bog monsters and the bullshit puzzle turrets, then maybe the intro levels would make a slightly different impression...

>a full 24 hours without alfposting

Is it finally over?

>>7225000
>recreation of SMASH TV in Q2
DL link where, pretty please?

>>7225192
posts like these make people pretend to be alf and start shitposting

>>7224901
Also pretty much almost all of Qoth 2.0 / DrakeMod maps feature at least one arena-fight sections in them somewhere (if not made as one from start), so its not just an AD specific thing thats fairly recent - Doom is just more convinient due to lower spec requirements (and somewhat easier to mod)

>>7225000
>Q2
nah miss me with that shit. I'd rather have a Smash TV or Total Carnage adaption in Doom every day.

>>7225161
actually ECE is what I've used in the firs place.. should I change any of the fluidsynth settings within dosbox.conf?

using the default FS settings (which is how I usually set up my environment) this new sf sounds to me worse than Patch93's SC55 and Weed's GM3
its quality leaves a lot to be desired and the only appeal of this new sf is the small file size

still, when the filesize is a major driver in choosing a soundfont, my only option il Merlin Creative, which il good enough for the majority of games, well balanced overall, and weights only 22MB

http://www.soundfonts.gonet.biz/search.php?goto=1&name=Merlin%20Creative%20v4.15

unfortunately, the folks who were running the site hosting the Merlin sf family forgot to renew their domain registration

>>7225007
I blame the anemic starting shotgun for this (DBS is fine for what it is), limited vanilla monster roster doesnt help either...

>>7225113
Are you talking about that one russian 'remake' designed for KMQ2 from the platground.ru website?
Theres definetely no .pk3 in the real Juggernaut (the new story) cuz that shit came out like 3-4 months after Q2 in early 1998

>>7224517
KMQ2 if youre not tech illiterate (no custom mod support unless youd compile it yourself);
YQ2 is for the more vanilla experience

>>7224370
np.

>>7223845
>>7223825
Thanks boys, nah I use gog-games but for some reason I kept having issues with some of the filehosts yesterday, either going super fucking slow or downloading .exe malware shit when I would click to download the file

>>7224227
BASED QUAD MACHINE

>>7224790
No, go make your own thread

>>7224845
>featuring items which exist only for score
Don't the Ahnks also give you extra lives when enough are collected?

I think Tom Hall said score and lives were something they couldn't remove from the Wolf3D engine so they had to use them

>>7225253
No, i was talking about the "new story" one.
I am not remembering correctly then. I once tried it with Yamagi, and it required .pk3s, not files like Juggernaut had. Then i packed them properly, but it still didn't work as mod because some files had issues with name lengto, or size, or something like that.

Continiuing my Quake2 shitposting rampage by replaying old SP mods like Roseville Missions...

>>7225125
What the fanaggling did you do?
>>7225127
Do you remember where?
>>7225128
Cool man! Do you need the iso?

>>7224937
Blm shit shoehorned in and tranny messages in maps is why I can't stand faggots at Doomworld like Marisa, like what the fuck is your problem? This kind of shit gets pushed literally EVERYWHERE nowadays, do you really have to also force it into boomer shooters that existed before these trends were even a thing? Ranger doesn't give a shit about niggers, he just wants to go home. Cacodemons don't care if you cut your dick and balls off.

>>7225347
Can't relly remember, honestly. Pretty sure I just got it off Moddb and adjusted the folders and filenames a bit. Doesn't show up on Yamagi's mod registry, but it does work with the "game jug" command and the Simple Quake 2 Launcher.

>>7225341
Seems weird, are you using any HD monster/weapon models or something?

>>7225348
>do you really have to also force it into boomer shooters


Yes anon. Faggots will push their faggotry whenever possible. Hence why they are so prevalent in peace times.

Also, Americans are fucked in the head.

>>7225347
Nope, already found a link for it

>>7225348
>BLM
Barons's lives matter? strange choice of words considering most antifags are also commies...

>>7225352
Nope, just Yamagi with base Q2, jaunching Juggernaut as a mod. Maybe it is because of Linux, but i can't see how that can be an issue - seems like it can run Zaero.

>>7225351
Thanks, i'll try again then, maybe with newer binaries.
>>7225362
Thanks!

>>7225348
>>7225354
>>7225364
Nice RETRO VIDEO GAMES discussion niggers.

>>7225385
It's literally in a retro video game

>>7225354
based yuroshit

>>7225192
kill yourself

>>7225213
I don't mind arenas, I mind these raperooms that throw the entire game at you at once

>>7225345
Sorry for not getting more footage to showcase anything for WindowOfRetaliation since I spent half of yesterday begging for a non installer version despite it turned out that was already done like over a year ago - as a reward Ill give out the number code needed to win their next mission: TheArmageddonDevice (overall a much better experience) first sequence in pic

>>7225192
I've been here the entire time, lots of these posts are mine. I'm OP. I just haven't felt like shitting on HL.

>>7225417
Had to return to old q2 v3.20 executable because both YQ2 and v3.24 doesnt let me alt-tab for some reason...

>>7225423
No wonder the OP's are so low quality now.
You have to go back to doomworld forum tranny.

>>7224227
I honestly think the alternate Quake 1 soundtrack that Sonic Mayhem made and sent to Romero that got him the Q2 job is better than Trent Reznor's soundtrack.

>>7225446
Fuck off retard, if you retards weren't so helpless like not updating the news three consecutive threads in a row last time I took a break from making them I wouldn't have to. The last one was fine but I've been doing them for months and you never complained till I told you that.

Any of you play Quake? What do you like about it, which maps are you playing, what difficulty?

>>7225456
You are not special and not one of us.

>>7225429
Nothing like a Makron fight in the midway-point of campaign, and in such cramped area to boot. Hope this new gun will help me win and not kill me instead..
nope, it is lethal in close range - just like the Phalanx particle cannon

>>7225462
>us
Cringe. Keep telling yourself that, I've been here since we started in 2013.

Btw Turok and Unreal are based and most 2.5 clones are cringe.

>>7225463
Capthca you fuck, stop stealing my pictures

>>7225464
No one believes that.

>>7225460
I like the verticality of it compared to Doom. Do you mean favorite vanilla maps or user made? I usually play on Hard which is the difficulty they said they played on at iD

>>7225009
Empire of Sin will be a perfectly decent strategy game when it's fully patched and all the DLC adding depth to the mechanics and such is out though, Daikatana is perma-fucked barring some modder or another dedicating his or her next decade of life or two to fixing it.

>>7225429
You can alt tab in YQ2, though its possibly windows doing shenanigans, also KMQ2 makes some maps look good and eerie with reshade combined.

also i think that wellspring of murk uses the same assets as nehahra

>>7225472
Denying reality is a common trait among trannies. Could you seethe a little harder please?

>>7225468
*2.5D

>>7225470
Ok now that Macron is dead (AGAIN), heres the next part of code

>>7225482
Ok doomworld tranny.

>>7225460
i've been wanting to play some really old mods like malice again, i play on normal my first playthrough of any given map or mod because i suck, but i'll go up to hard later. nightmare always feels lame because all the monsters just stand still like turrets.

I like Half-Life but I have to admit alf is a far better poster than all these asshurt trannies in thread.

>>7225503
What is the best way to mod make maps for HL in 2020?

I am going to search it, but I always wanted to make something like Opfor, focusing on the HL soldiers.

>>7225487
>no u
Sad. Also the correct term is cringeworld

>>7225478
I'm currently going through the main campaign, so I'd like to hear about user maps.

>>7225516
Arcane Dimensions is a must play as are all the official expansions.

>>7225508
Valve Hammer 3.5 is what you will find the majority of information for. There is also some slav editor called jack but I do not have any experience with it.
I'd recommend looking at tutorials on twhl.info, they have a lot of good information.

>>7225480
Maybe its some function keys BS too; I dont know and cant be bothered to check (honestly dont even know how), at least saves work properly unlike Q2Pro yesterday didnt.
Anyways, now that I am on a spaceship - I'm gonna crash it and escape to a big asteroid or something...

"Please disregard how fugly this new gun is - it kills shit good and thats fine enough for me"

as a bloodfag i'd just like to say i like the op and if its alf who is doing the ops with other games besides just doom he should keep it up, it's doom/retro fps general not just doom general

>>7225538
As long as he keeps his autism attacks down, whenever jannies remove his posts the whole thread gets nuked since he makes it. I guess it makes sense that the person who makes the thread would be the biggest sperg out of all of us.

>>7225503
Does vanilla Half-Life even has enough weapons to justify its weird 'cathegory selection keys' shtick instead of using the regular 1~0 numeral keys like most FPS games did? Besides the explosive charges and laser mines, that is - they might as well dont exist (or just be an usable item via hotkey perhaps)

>>7225547
Look I didn't mean for that to happen. That is why I have been more chill since, usually jannies see my post history and just give warnings and delete my posts
I assume some retarded jannie didn't do this and just wiped all posts by my IP which included OP.

>>7225552
No, it only really becomes useful in OpFor where there's a dozen extra weapons. Doesn't really bother me as I can just press 3 twice and click for shotgun for instance. HL2 has fast weapon switch which makes it a little better but HL2 is gay and for homos

Anyone knows where I could get some good Deus Ex mods? I remember this very cool one that was nameless that had its level design centered around classic Internet and Planet Deus Ex while making fun of some of the integral members of the forum at the time.

Opposing Force is better than the HL base game

>>7225571
...it's literally called The Nameless Mod you dumb piece of shit.

Be sure to find Chris the Sage in it if you're into Deus Ex lore. He was the biggest lore sperg on the forum and they put him in with you being able to ask shit tons of lore questions and he will go on forever explaining it, with Chris himself doing the voice lines. Interesting stuff.

>>7225552
the categories are based one the weapon's role (1 melee, 2 pistols, 3 anti-personal, 4 heavy, 5 disposable)

>>7225552
iirc, only slot #1 is useless since will only host the crowbar

slot #2: glok, magnum
slot #3: mp5, spas12, crossbow
slot #4: rpg, gauss, tau, hive
slot #5: grenade, tripmine, satchel, snarks

>>7225534
im not going to bother to upscale that one if i ever get into fan packs >>7225470 looks better

>>7225579
>...it's literally called The Nameless Mod you dumb piece of shit.
Kek, It's just that it's been at least a decade since I played it and I barely remember anything from it. Will download it now, thanks.

My enjoyment of Doom wads has increased considerably since I realized you can actually just skip levels if theyre not fun

>>7225597
No problem. Its really cool. A bizarre premise at first, I remember when finding it for the first time and seeing the huge scope and quality of the mod and thinking "Man I wish these guys had done like an actual in-universe Deus Ex story instead of this weird forum shit" but its still cool.

>>7225596
Thats because that weapon model is actually borrowed from the LMCTF mod and its always been very nice too look at IMHO

I like how the cloned humans call me a traitor for killing their creators...

>>7225503
How?
Everyone can make the OP

>>7225627
I was talking about his replies to these butthurt trannies not op

>>7225574
No with that level design

>>7225574
Maybe if the levels weren't absolute shit

>>7224261
Where?

>>7225636
https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA

Eviternity 20

>>7225635
I like the first half or so, but that surface section followed by the crate maze with 6 million of those stupid ninja fuckers ruins it

Accidentally left my game running overnight

For the anon asking for a complete list of throwback retro FPS, this is what I came up with:
Apocryph
Hedon
Nightmare Reaper
Project Warlock
Wrath: Aeon of Ruin
Dusk
Amid Evil
Graven
Ion Fury
Prodeus
HROT
Viscerafest

Pretty sure I am missing some but that's the ones I could think of

>>7221749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j__FnI5nEG0&list=PLl2feK8Fmw9u_qzuVVxpB_HfSOR979YuR&index=17

How did Gman not like Sigil? How can you not like Sigil?

>>7225686
He does not actually like doom.

>>7225417
>>7225486
Heres the final boss - tried to take a good look at her with notarget, can you believe she is less a bother than those shielded Super Tanks (with the pirate flag chestplate) have ever been?
Im almost done, so Ill just kill her with that reskinned Railgun laser thing combined with a QuadDamage that was conviniently hidden nearby and the final code part will be mine...

>>7223569
There are brief moments of greatness in it but they are mostly buried by the problems. You can see what Romero was trying to achieve and if he had been able to fully realize that I think it would've been one of the best FPS ever made.>>7223587

>>7223459
Babby here. Started up REKKR as my first add-on on the Switch version and fuck me it's tough.
>every enemy zigzags away from your arrows
>and your punches
>and can hit for 40% health on HMP

How do I git gud here? Should I just start somewhere else?

>>7225706
Practice and punch things better.

>>7225706
Have you made sure to turn off V-Sync? It creates massive input lag on the console ports, it's like night and day if you turn it off and turn sensitivity up. I couldn't understand why I was sucking so hard till I did that.

If you have and are still having trouble, just bump the difficulty down one, there's no shame in that.

Unfiltered textures in Turok

Yay or nay

>>7225673
You forgot Strafe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQKNxKMTnO0

>>7225716
I also forgot Ultrakill

>>7225705
Play with the 1.3 Community Patch. It was almost a decade in the making and completely reworks the sidekick AI, it feels like the game Romero wanted to make.

>>7225713
PErsonal choice. those textures look like they were made for filtering though, unfiltered shines when you have the ability to really show off the pixel art. what does the rest of the game look like with unfiltered?

>>7225713
These were obviously designed with filtering in mind and look like shit without it.

>>7225713
there is no constant pixel density so obviously no

>>7225713
How do you do this?
Looks so much better. Its like when i put on glasses for the first time in awhile lel

Early Quake shovelware is fascinating, I wonder what it would have been like if they had access to modern level editors

>>7225713
Those textured weren't made with nearest-neighbor interpolation in mind, so rather no.

>>7225698
The numbers Bitterman, what do they mean?

Well.. theres this one control panel at the end of the level that blocks the exit route (its explained in the story included in the mod readme) and it also kills you if you enter the code sequence wrong; and dont try using the starting blaster to shoot the keyboard wall as it has double-tap feature here; so youd need to use another weapon...

>>7225713
Those look interesting, but clearly made for the filtering.

>>7225698
Extra pic of dead boss lady - might have been a decent multiplayer skin back in 1999~2001 I'd guess

>>7225785
Extra pic of dead boss lady - might have been a decent multiplayer skin back in 1999~2001 I'd guess

Why is there no equivalent of TFix for Dude Sex?

I see some fan patch compilations but they all seem to be dead.

>>7225785
Behold the final enemy of the TAD mission mod...

>>7225712
Different anon here, but thanks. I was wondering if my brain was just fucked up.
>>7225706
Enemies hit p hard, but do what other anon said and decrease lag as much as possible. Most of rekkr is about dodging since there are no hitscanners.
It gets a lot easier when you get the soul launcher and shotty. The grenade launcher is op too, so abuse it for bigger monsters.

>>7225812
maybe you are interested in this
https://www.moddb.com/mods/rampage-mod/downloads/quake-ii-w-o-r-weapons-of-rampage-v14a-current-version

>>7225713
i'd say most n64 games were literally made with texture filtering in mind.

>>7223645
I was a little harsh when I insulted his smirk. He just needs more candid photos. He looks perfectly normal in them.

>>7225753
https://turoksanctum.com/unfiltered-textures/

Turok Remaster. Make a folder called "mods" drag the file in. Badda boom badda bing. The way the developers intended it

>>7225812
DESU all of my todays shitposting could have been avoided if I'd just type down this instead:
7, 2, 5, 3, 8, 9 - no idea if the code is randomly generated, but Im really doubting this possibility...

>>7225805
to fix what?, you only need a modern opengl/directx .dll

>>7225683
Based.

>>7225847
And if you do not type it in correctly...
I didnt actually wrote DESU in there, WTF?

>>7225846
>The way the developers intended it
Absolutely not in this case

>>7225805
Check out the Deus Ex in the Win98 link, it has some of the more well known fixes + new d3d11 renderer, see pic related with eyecandy on

>>7225736
>>7225782
Quake 2 also had filtered textures by default. And GLQuake. They still look better unfiltered though.

>>7225885
fucking hell

>>7225883
The fuck is happening with that box

>>7225891
mean to >>7225883

>>7225873
Ok Im done, thanks for tolerating my ramblings for long enough to be able to complete this 'adventure'
As a parting gift have this random skeleton texture drawn by a 6yo kid that probably is around 29 today...

>>7225885
Q2 had higher res in mind, in fact it would be a gold mine to find the original uncompressed textures from id's internal beta and press versions and carmack's machine

>>7225904
try dawn of darkness now

>>7225873
t b h is filtered so it's replaced with desu, not sure why aside from something about underaged summerfags using 4chan. The word f a m is also filtered so it says senpai or something I forget.

Also I didn't know that the filter was case sensitive. I wonder if it works when one other letter is lower/uppercase, tBh FaM

>>7225895
Some of it becomes a bit overbright. I usually play with the eyecandy off anyways (default setting) so it looks plain old vanilla, but the added reflections do look nice

>>7225885
No they literally don't.

>>7225910
Heh, reminds me how the textures for the top of shotgun shell tops look like they were sketched on with crayons
>>7225913
Oh ok it doesn't then :y

>>7225915
I actually liked revision higher detail of the maps.

I played vanilla many times, but I know if the original devs could and knew the players had the pc for it they would spice them up as far as possible.

Even the expanded ones.

Tons of shit did not the make the final cut of the game. DX is one of those games i dont mind altering completely.

>>7225846
Just...no. People didn't enthusiastically buy 3D accelerators back in '97-98 to look at...this.

>>7225918
possibly adrian and paul never had time to finish the gun meshes, the SG an the rocket launcher feels incomplete, and they had to make it to fit the gun position
even Q2 SMG is different from the ground pickup model, it lacks even the stock

upscale they look better but i never had time or motivation to fix it

>>7225770
>I wonder what it would have been like if they had access to modern level editors
The same shitty big square rooms, but every floor and wall has missing tiles and bricks that have fallen out.

>>7225931
>AI upscaling low res textures

>>7223827
Remind me quick, whats that one PS1 game where you get a skillet for melee weapon and you kill aliens that look like walking buttocks and made exact same sounds as Doom's Imps? (all that I know is that its not Distruptor)

>>7225940
/v/ is over there election tourist

Sup /doom/, Barney here browsing this thread during my evening shift over here at Black Mesa, how you all doing? P.S. i just saw this nerdy looking ginger with a beard and glasses walk by, he seemed up to no good!

>>7225948
Upscaling isn't retro. I'm right and you are wrong.

>>7225935
underrated

>>7225910
Ive tried it when it was fresh, but could figure out how to loot bodies and use items. Theres a nice YT series about this TC made recently:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6lTLciY5b0

>>7225951

>>7225970
I tried playing this recently and it seemed pretty cool but one of the first quests was bugged. Maybe it doesnt work right on Yamagi Q2?

>trying to rile shitposting
ignore
>>7225970
that mod would be better as a hexen 2 one

>>7225946
check mobygames, up til 95 there were games using doom's holywood stock sound

>>7225954
90% of anytihng in those threads isnt actually retro unless its from before 2000 you mongoloid ;^)

>>7226051
OK, Mods!

>>7225931
Another thing is once you get a Hyperblaster collected, its 'carry handle' part becomes tflipped outwards when you have it equipped compared to the pickup model

Wolfenstein is pretty cool, but I really wish I was playing Doom

What would you guys consider to be the first truly good non-commercial megawad? As in, not just a case of "good for the time", but actually still holds up even today?

>>7226060
Find me a pre-2001-era PC that can run Qoth or Neharha stuff then...
do you even understand context or are just stupid on purpose?

After playing doom eternal, I got curious: how often do you weapon switch in fps's? This is something I usually do way too infrequently in Doom or Blood

>>7226082
Try this then.
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/thread/112484

>>7226051
>>7226086
he was kvetching during the early days of upscaling, mainly the good ones that were made for hexen and doom using nvidia's private tools using 2x size

ignore him, if isnt HL he seethes over anything related to Q2 and RE4

>>7226071
Something that QC hyperblaster model got right
Also the Iron Maiden Shoulder mesh is fubar, it should be square as a shoulderplate but the mesh is fucked

even the monster's faces were more detailed compared to the final product, i even think Q2E assets has those.
i even did that for the upscaling stuff, and surprisingly they really looked good, mainly the Gunner, the asshole is now on par with the concept art and art cover for the PS1 and N64

>>7226083
Alien Vendetta. While it's age definitely shows when compared to modern wads, it's still a very fun wad even today, and certainly caused a major shift in the mapping community since it's release.

>>7226092
Did a tranny make this?

>>7226104
>when Milkor and Protecta love eachother deeply...

>>7226115
>doomer boards project
Doubt it.

>>7225673
>>7225716
>>7225717
So we got:
Apocryph
Hedon
Nightmare Reaper
Project Warlock
Wrath: Aeon of Ruin
Dusk
Amid Evil
Graven
Ion Fury
Prodeus
HROT
Viscerafest
Devil Daggers (at least I think? Haven't tried this one)
Ultrakill
Strafe

Any others?

>>7226104
Looks comfy anon, mind telling where this is from? Normally i can tell instantly if it's Build or a Gzdoom wad, but now i'm not so sure...

>>7225883
Thanks, I'll check it out. I never finished the game and I want to.

>>7226151
it's turok

>>7226151
It's Turdcock you retarded zoomer

>>7225742
texel density, but agreed. if there were i'd prefer it to filters

>>7225951
Don't pretend you don't know Freeman, you called him by name. It'd rude
- Kleiner

>>7226140
Brutal Fate

>>7226194
>>7226170
He's kind of right. It's Hollywood Holocaust remade in Turok

https://streamable.com/m3z5w5

>>7226239
Anything released for it yet? Demo or anything?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF7ED_rMDUk

>>7225487
>doomworld
Zdoom forums are far worse.
Also, there still Zandronum's website. Ditto for Doomer boards, Zdaemon forums, 76chan, endchan, 5chon, and 8ch_a_nnel.

>>7226318
Alf called Doomkid a troon and a fat fuck and got permabanned on dw, he should've done it on zdoom forums

>>7226159
It's a direct copy from the game folder so no shortcut icon (you can make one yourself again at any time). You can find the DeusEx.exe in the 'System' folder. Also check out Undying if you haven't already.

>>7226328
Who is Doomkid though? I am not all that familiar with said person.

>>7226375
A faggot who probably fucks linguica

Where are downloaded addons stored in the Unity port?

>>7226375
Has a fairly sizable following as a Doom YouTuber. He was liked here at one point for getting ShillmanLives to delete his Doom Unity review by making a response video pointing out the mistakes. He is pretty fat though:
https://youtu.be/shEUJIKon-E

>>7225686
gman is shit at playing doom and sigil proved it.

also he shill eternal waaaay too much.

>>7226375
he made some interesting videos about doom myths/trivia and some mods

>>7226402
He sucks at playing Eternal too.

>>7225348
>Blm shit shoehorned in and tranny messages in maps
>This kind of shit gets pushed literally EVERYWHERE nowadays
Which maps/wads? I've never heard about this in Doom before, and I do play modern wads too.

...though I've probably fallen to a bait of the tranny-obsession anon.

>>7226375
IIRC, Doomkid really likes 90's era doom. So a lot his maps and projects tend to be throwback type stuff.

>>7226140
Devil Daggers is sort of retro inspired but is just a single endless wave level. It's fun and very addictive but isn't really a retro FPS in the sense we normally talk about ITT.

If it were to get a level set, which I would fuckin pay 60 bucks for on principle, then it probably would be considered retro

>>7225686
Basically it was "Crikey! There's no super shotgun or Doom II monsters in here! This is boring!"

He wasn't even the only person to make this criticism and its retarded because Romero made it for Doom 1's 25th anniversary. It was a celebration of Doom, not Doom II, that's why it only uses Doom assets

>>7226375
Guy who made Rowdy Rudy, some good Doom related videos and pwned GaymanLives. He seems like a cool guy.

>>7226375
Dont know what this anon has against him, hes just a guy on doomworld that makes some fun oldschool-style wads.
>>7226410
One of Marisa's doom mods had some weird text about "terfs" and she got some guy banned from the forums for making a patch to remove political messages.

>>7226406
I know right? its fucking hilarious, and he tries to come off as this pro boomer shooter player.

fun fact he tried to accuse Shadow Warrior 3 for ripping off Doom eternal for having a 4 barreled shotgun...you know...like in classic shadow warrior?

>>7226410
>hasn't played Marisa's levels with the tranny messages or the levels with BLM shit in them
Consider yourself lucky. Marisa even said here he puts that faggot shit in his maps because hes a tranny

>>7225686
>>7225692
>>7226425
Gayman also criticized Doom Unity port, because it didn't have "something simple like Brutal Doom" in it. He also said that Unity port didn't have original Carmack's code in it "unlike GZDoom".

>>7226410
>This kind of shit gets pushed literally EVERYWHERE nowadays
I was saying that it gets pushed everywhere already besides Doom or Quake and that it isn't needed there, learn to read.

>>7226439
marisa doesnt come here, 4chan causes trannies to explode.

>>7226441
its a whole new level of moot was right about hating crikeys

>>7226434
>One of Marisa's doom mods had some weird text about "terfs" and she got some guy banned from the forums for making a patch to remove political messages.
Which mod? And if it's some obscure shit mod, why should we even actually care. If man can make up mod where Doomguy has homosex with imp, let the guy do his tranny mods. It's not like they are relevant anyway.

>>7226441
>brutal doom
eugh
>ironically the unity port is more faithful to the original engine then gzdoom is thanks to le no chicken.

>>7226447
Hello newfriend.

>>7226449
the robot mod that's somehow even more unbalanced and broken than Russian Overkill

>>7226439

>>7226451
unity is just the front end

>>7226447
Yes he does he fucking tripfags in here sometimes and is always lurking

>>7226457
It's not like the tranny stuff is going to make it any worse then.

>>7226459
>>7226462
Gross
fuck off trannies.

>>7226460
Yea. That's why it's ironic, that Gayman calls GZDoom faithful to Carmack's Code and Unity Port to creation which has no original code left at all.

>>7226460
Yup, its kinda hilarious how he bitch deleted his vids when doomkid called him out, but he defended his fresh supply video as "accurate" when people were calling him out for shilling for ND. Hell fresh supply's own PROGRAMMER just goes "yeah use nblood instead"

>>7226410
Marisa puts exit messages in her maps like "TERFs can fuck off!" and other assorted transcentric stuff.

>>7224845
Romero is a genuinely talented dude, it wouldn't be that crazy to think that all the coke he was snorting during that time in his career made Daikatana shittier as a result. I saw many infinitely less-talented people fall into the coke trap in my early twenties and lots of the signs are there for younger Romero too. It's also worth noting that Romero didn't have Carmack, Peterson, etc to bounce ideas off of so it seems less likely to me that anybody would have told him that any less-than-stellar game designs were shit and needed to go.

>>7226482
What is TERF even?

>>7226460
Not him, but what exactly does that mean/entail, that Unity is the front end? I always just assumed that Bethesda/Id/whoever made the port took the code from the original games and put it into Unity with some tweaks for the same of compatibility with it. Even then though, I don't understand why they used it instead of just using a premade source port (e.g. GZDoom or whatever) with the creator's permission and tweaked that for optimization for consoles, unless of course the source port's license doesn't allow for it for some reason but I doubt that'd be the case anyway. Keep in mind I don't know anything about programming, but the only possible reason for using Unity is for that fancy Doom 2016-esque credits sequence where it's a bunch of floating text and player/enemy sprites posed on one of the maps in a freeze-frame kinda style. Correct me if I'm being retarded at all, though.

>>7226503
trans-exclusionary radical feminist but ends up getting used for any biological woman who won't acknowledge tranny delusions that they are also women.

>>7226503
Feminists who hate Trans women because they're just men larping as women.

>>7226507
>why they used it instead of just using a premade source port (e.g. GZDoom or whatever)
GZDoom has horrible performance issues, it's not 100% accurate, and occasionally has troubles with dehacked. Also you'd need multiple GZDoom versions to play most of the ZDoom wads which would be nightmare on consoles.

>>7226497
>"Oh... my gosh. It's actually you! The Doomguy! OMG I love your work I have all your games, plushies, and soundtracks. Even the vinyl records. Do you know how hard it is to get those down here? I had to pay a fortune just for my copy. Anyways can I have your autograph? No, wait even better lets take a selfie together. Say scream!"
>HUH?

I don't have a problem with Marisa other than the fact that her mod runs like shit and is super imbalanced. Like... we already have guncaster for half the shit this mod does

>>7226519
>HUH?
Isn't that Ranger's thing?

>>7226512
>>7226513
Are we defending feminists now? Well I have to agree that TERFS can fuck off and also all the other kind of feminists with them.

>>7226517
I just randomly used GZDoom for an example, but fair point.
>Also you'd need multiple GZDoom versions to play most of the ZDoom wads which would be nightmare on consoles.
Would it be possible to somehow reverse engineer or Frankenstein code from different versions of GZDoom or different ports to circumvent that? I'd imagine not, but even if it were, it'd probably be a nightmare to optimize for consoles I'd imagine.

>>7226528
Nice try you subversive tranny fuck, that isn't the only faggot message in Marisa's stuff

>>7226140
Immortal Redneck? It's fast and shooty, has a lot of different classes with various bonuses (and weaknesses), and lots of different guns to use.

>>7226482
Post proof.

>>7226528
It's not surprising to me at all that 4chan has progressed to defending feminists lmfao

this site has never had any kind of consistency. other than loneliness.

>>7226526
my mistake, it should be "UNF?"

>>7226497
>>7226519
Fixed version:
>"Oh... my gosh. It's actually you! The Doomguy! OMG I love your work I have all your games, plushies, and soundtracks. Even the vinyl records. Do you know how hard it is to get those down here? I had to pay a fortune just for my copy. Anyways can I have your autograph? No, wait even better lets take a selfie together. Say scream!"
>Short silence
>"Well, uhm, Hell's not had... a real man around... for a little while, you know."
>unf

>>7226546
What do you expect? It's an anonymous board.

>>7226536
>Would it be possible to somehow reverse engineer or Frankenstein code from different versions of GZDoom or different ports to circumvent that?
Well nothing is impossible, but I can't actually think more difficult Doom related thing to program (and I'm not even exaggerating). Imagine the shitloads of bugs, and the optimization like you said. Hell Graf can't even optimize the newest GZDoom correctly and he is the only insufferable autist savant, who has skills to work with the engine itself. The engine is already horrible clusterfuck, and what you are suggesting would make it even more clusterfuck.

(I agree that Unity Doom could have had prBoom+-compability though.)

>>7224186
fast as fug can shoot fast as fug. and can ram me with massive damage. and in general do massive damage.

>>7226439
>Marisa even said here he puts that faggot shit in his maps because hes a tranny
And why he is not allowed to do that, exactly?

>>7226448
WHICH MAP

>>7226507
They couldn't use a community made source port for the following reasons
Ones on the original Doom Source Code License, like ZDaemon and Zandronum, cannot be used in a commercial setting at all, as the license forbids it.
Ones that use the GPL license, which is most of them, can technically be used in a commercial setting. But as such license requires all modifications to the code to be public, this means that releases on closed platforms like consoles are generally out of the question. Exceptions can be made if explicit permission from the original authors of the source port's code is obtained, but a lot of source ports feature code from numerous other source ports as well, making this not exactly feasible.

>>7226546
I was always consistently against the idea that entitlement comes from need. But on a scale of severety, feminists only feel entitled to my money, while trannies feel entitled to change the very reality.

>>7226541

>>7226556
I can slow them down a little and make them take longer to shoot.
The ramming is gonna stay though I think. Though there's a lot of monsters for Knightmare mode that need refining because a lot of them are just annoying rather than more dangerous

>>7226558
Mission64, its on news post.

>>7226557
He's allowed just as I am allowed to shit on him putting messages in his map for no purpose other than his political beliefs

>>7226561
>the idea that entitlement comes from need
so, you're against acting on basic empathy?

pretty based

>>7226563

>>7226561
Feminists want to repress white men, and trannies just want to be insufferable trannies. I'd rather choose insufferable autist clowns than evil insufferable witches that want to kill me without even raping me, all while sucking big black cocks.

>>7226564
like the pain elemental slowing you down?

>>7226576
I might remove that too but I like the ice theme for them, so I want to keep that and add some sorta extra danger to their attacks

>>7226410
People around here (mostly tranny-obsession anons it would seem) were pretty upset by a surreal gay-centric map where you walked through godawful textures (I'm no artist but I could honestly make better, I'm dead serious), don't shoot a thing, monsters say gay stuff to you, and there's BLM banners and such strewn around the map. I don't really care myself, I'm almost certain it's an intentionally shitty joke map and meant to offend anyways and it clearly offended a bunch of people. As a one-off map this would have been fine and easily laughed at and dismissed or outright ignored, I just don't know why anybody thought this joke map with no actual gameplay had any place in a Quake Christmas Jam. Oh well. I'm probably just shitting the thread up more but that's my two cents.

>>7226574
>just want to be insufferable trannies
They want to destroy white men too

>>7226572
If I want to be sympathetic to my fellow man (or woman, or someone else) I will. And if trannies were content to have people just be understanding on how mental illness makes them do surgeries, sure. I will give people my sympathies, or other forms of support if I want to but it should be up to me.

But I won't abide people who tries to turn it upside down and redefined taking things from me as basic rights.

>>7225496
Go into the MAPINFO lump (or make one, if not present) and change Nightmare difficulty to use Aggressiveness 0.0, and turn FastMonsters on (if you want their animations to be sped up) They'll stop attacking the first frame that they can. You can apply those changes to pretty much any mod to avoid that behavior. I usually just make a separate pk3 as a "difficulty patch" that I load after the base mod with any difficulty changes like that I want to apply to it.

>>7226583
I thought this year's Xmas Jam was quite shitty in entirely. Not just that one map, that I couldn't even take seriously to criticize it.

>>7226580
ah, kay. the only thing that was annoying for me in knightmare was shadow kustam spawning and kicking me out of bounds or him spawning in pillars that i didn't expect and kicking me down in a pit.

>>7226584
Well just the political ones. All feminists are political, and some trannies like our own Chris-Chan just provide good comedy.

>>7226605
I need to make the spawns for the hero shades and shitty skeleton mimics more rare in general.
I could reduce the distance dark kustam kicks you too