/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
500ml of /vr/
BETA: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/7041037/#7043379
https://discord.gg/F968y8Wj4x

=== NEWS ===
[12-24] DBP31: Santa's Outback Bender for the 3rd annual Doomer Boards Project Christmas extravaganza released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118801-dbp31-santas-outback-bender/

[12-22] Gearbox reaches a settlement with Bobby Prince over the use of his music tracks in Duke Nukem 3D: Anniversary Edition https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2020-12-21-gearbox-reaches-settlement-with-bobby-prince-over-duke-nukem-music

[12-22] Markshan Knightmare has released a Updated installer for the Window of Retribution community Mission pack for Q2
https://leray.proboards.com/thread/3867/re-windows-retaliation?page=1&scrollTo=28875

[12-21] Anon made and shares an Episode 1 style level
https://mega.nz/file/mrZViaIZ#MLHFdce2Eb2zdBQUbTFTaz4pHuyKdJd__ZRPh3uxp9w

[12-20] Quake Xmas Jam 2020 Released
https://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61995

[12-20] Mission64 a Quake 2 64 missionpack for Q2 was released
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/mission-64

[12-20] DSDA 10.0 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118074-dsda-doom-source-port-v0100/

[12-19] TerminusEst13 releases a 7DFPS GZDoom project, Kid 4 $29.99.
https://terminusest13.itch.io/kid-4-2999

[12-19] Snap the Sentinel, a short standalone 7DFPS IWAD made for GZDoom inspired by SNES/Genesis games released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118627-gzdoom-snap-the-sentinel-~-short-new-iwad-for-7dfps/
https://tehrealsalt.itch.io/snap-the-sentinel

[12-19] Champions updated to v2.8
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60456

[12-18] Adoria, a Quake mod two years in the making that connects Wolf 3D, Doom and Quake to same universe is released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYw9XtcLhxg

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0/edit?usp=sharing

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>>7214792
Based and Dirtpilled.

GEROXE CRUO

>>7214626
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG7LKYQfH6s&list=PLl2feK8Fmw9u_qzuVVxpB_HfSOR979YuR&index=5

>>7214832
00:51 -1:00

This is the reason I don't like Quake

>>7214795
Is 500ml of /vr/ ever coming out of beta?

>>7214849
water?

>>7214850
It had an updated beta in the last thread, the OP should be updated next thread to include it
>>7212497

>>7214818
MARANAX PALLEX

>>7214850
Yeah, were getting there. The other contributors are very close to being done with their maps and I just need to add another room or two to mine. It probably seems like were slacking off, but making detailed Build maps takes an eternity.

>>7214857
You goon, Blood is thicker than water.

>>7214979
How comfortable have you grown with Mapster 32 by this point? Do you love it, or do you long back for Ultimate Doom Builder?

>>7214979
How many maps is it looking like the release version will have?

The year is coming to an end, share your retro shooter related acheivements. I learned how to make Doom maps and then made this thing.

>>7214818
CAECUX INFIRMUX!

>played Blood, Simon's Destiny and Castlevania 1 & 3 during Halloween
>one night I dreamed of making a Blood CV inspired map pack
>map edit is arcane
>all the in-depth tutorials are on early 2000 websites with terrible formats/backgrounds, a complete mess to read, not retard friendly
>have retard brain

>>7215008
Beat Daikatana (using 1.3 community patch) on motherfuckin Shogun.

My friends got me a copy of Masters of Doom signed by Romero for christmas, thanks bros

>>7214996
I've moved onto X-Mapedit at this point, Its got mouse control in 3d view and a bunch of other neat stuff. I actually prefer Mapedit over Doom Builder now, you can do so much more with the Build engine once you get used to it's weirdness. Ambient sounds, sprites and scripting make a huge difference.

>>7214998
6. I'm making four of them and two other anons from the old Heretic project are picking up the other map slots. Their talented mappers and really chill dudes, everything I've played by them so far is solid.

>>7215065
>I actually prefer Mapedit over Doom Builder now, you can do so much more with the Build engine once you get used to it's weirdness. Ambient sounds, sprites and scripting make a huge difference.

You started Build with Blood though, which has the most user friendly system to use of all big threee.
Although the disavantage of Blood is that it's still reliant on DOS based editors, which include dos Build's many glitches.

>>7215010
get xmapedit and its tutorial
http://cruo.bloodgame.ru/xmapedit/

>>7215037
Incredibly based, it's an amazing read.

>>7215104
I know Duke / Shadow Warrior use Hi-tag and Lo-tag sprites for scripting and ambient sounds don't show their range in 2d, but those are the only differences I'm aware of. What else makes Mapedit more user friendly than those editors?

>>7215065
>Ambient sounds, sprites and scripting make a huge difference.
You can easily use ambient sounds and script with GZDoom though.
Build does have customizable sprites and more sector effects though.

>>7215065
>I actually prefer Mapedit over Doom Builder now, you can do so much more with the Build engine once you get used to it's weirdness. Ambient sounds, sprites and scripting make a huge difference.
I can certainly see the appeal, there's quite a lot that Build lets you do.

Just for the sake of being argumentative and autistic, I'll point out that with Boom format you can do some degrees of scripting, and DeHacked would let you add things like new sprites and ambient sound effects, with the new Extended DeHacked as seen in DSDA, you also aren't limited to just whatever frames and actors you can use and whichever of the stock ones you're willing to sacrifice.
UMAPINFO is also useful.
Of course, there's no slopes, and no walls going *KABLOOEY!* with the earth shaking all over.

>>7214818
PESTIS CRUENTO VILOMAXUS, PRETIACRUENTO

And Daggerfall combat is getting fixed
https://www.nexusmods.com/daggerfallunity/mods/162

>>7215065
Only thing that could be better is Blood's Room-Over-Room implementation. The one in SW is better and more complete, but the one on Blood is faster to render while sacrificing a bit of functionality. like enemy sight lines and proper audio positioning.

Whats the best way to play Deus Ex today? The GOG version runs on Windows 10 but the gamma slider wont work and i cant see jack shit.

>>7215303
Use New Vision and HDTP

>>7215303
Shifter and ReVision

>>7214792
The Hero from Powerslave does look like a soldier from the Vietnam era. The manual just says you are trained in covert ops and are one of the best. I assume it occurs in 1996 so I don't know if he would be too young to have served in Nam or not

>>7214832
I've reached the blm map, it's incredibly bad and I'm pretty sure one secret is broken

>>7215201
True, about a year ago I was working on a .pk3 / mapset that would include all of Bloods art assets and sprites as actors, as well as ambient sounds with SNDINFO. If you guys want to take assets from it or use it in your maps go right ahead. I'll dig around for the maps and post them if you fellas are interested.

>/F7L3102bp3/Bloodstuff_recovered_pk3
> This is an anon files link, had to reformat because of spam.

>>7215230
How does UMAPINFO differ from normal MAPINFO? I've been out of the loop with doom modding. The new dehacked stuff seems pretty cool.

>>7215289
Agreed, the audio transitions between stacks is usually pretty jarring.

>>7215008
I started making standalone game on GZDoom engine, lost motivation several times and whined a lot about it in this thread.

Guess why this happened

>>7214832
HRNGH! HRNGGH!

Is there a reason why the top servers on DoomSeeker are all running this shitty Megaman mod? Is there a meme here I'm not getting. This is the worst shit I've ever seen, and I'm a huge fan of Megaman and Doom.

>>7215381
It's incredibly popular you stupid newfag piece of shit.

>>7215343
umapinfo works with a boom fork, so you can have custom episodes / secret exits without having to use gzdoom

>>7215343
UMAPINFO I think will add a few new abilities such as defining your own Doom 1 style map screen, but more importantly, GzDoom is going to be sharing functionality of UMAPINFO lumps with other sourceports, thus, it's a Universal Map Info.

PrBoom+ has been forked to have some upgrades like that (and someone already forked that fork into DSDA+), primarily for UMAPINFO, though it will not make use of every single of GzDoom's options for the format (it will plain skip/ignore lines which aren't relevant to it), it will let you do typical stuff like define sky and music, map order, exits and secret exits, episodes, text crawls, etc. All things which would be SUPER useful for just general Doom mapping, even just Vanilla or Boom mapping, but which has previously not been available outside of advanced sourceports.
Crispy Doom will also support UMAPINFO, as will Eternity.

>>7215328
After all the autistic screeching people were doing about this map I had to try. It's absolutely pitifully obvious that it is terrible on purpose, the map equivalent of a shitpost. I don't understand how anyone could be dense enough to play that map and take it seriously.

>>7215408
well, is the tenth secret broken?, I can't activate it

>>7215383
>why is thing popular
>>because its popular
perhaps the real dipshit was inside you all along

Rank the Blood chapters from best to worst.

What did you think of the xmas jam 2020 edition?

>>7214818
MARANAX INFIRMUX
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>7215438
nice cock

>>7215008
Beat a lot of Quake maps and mods, taking up Quake mapping and modding myself.

I love gnaars, they look very cool and killing them is satisfying. Any good First/Second encounter maps with a lot of gnaars?

>>7215453
Also, what's the best way to play Serious Sam? Is GoG version ok?

>>7215453
Serious DOOM

>>7215459
Seconding.
>>7215457
The GOG versions are a-okay, but I'm a sucker for detail textures, so Classics Revolution is the one for me. Plus I love the HUD.

>>7215457
It works fine. You can find TFE and TSE in the OP.

>>7215457
GoG should be fine. Go get serious.

>>7215437
Even Death May Die > The Way of All Flesh > Post Mortem > Dead Reckoning > Cryptic Passage > Farewell to Arms

But that's just my opinion, might change when I play through it again.

>>7215453
https://youtu.be/lw2tRZS1tyc?t=852

>>7215396
>Crispy Doom will also support UMAPINFO, as will Eternity.

>>7215457
The Steam version got a tiny update that allows you to select HD resolutions in the menu, the GOG version still only shows 4:3 resolutions (max 1600x1200). You can easily manually fix this by typing the desired resolution in the config file with Notepad. In any case, the version in the Win98 link in OP is already preconfigured to use 1920x1080.

>>7214849
Never bothered me myself, but Arcane Dimensions' solution to some people's problems with that wasn't exactly the best one.

>>7215483
Right? So you can basically just make a Vanilla/Limit Removing mapset but then use UMAPINFO to just tie it nicely together as say, a single 10 level episode with whatever secret levels you want, whatever skies you want, the use of 666 and 667 specials on whatever level you want, text crawls between every level, a custom intermission map screen, and a custom end graphic after the final level (maybe just a single screen, or a long one which slowly pans to one direction to show the rest of it). You don't need to attach any GzDoom strings or anything if you don't want to, and you can do Doom 1 style episodes without having to sacrifice any Doom 2 stuff.

UMAPINFO is definitely one of the nicest things to be added to overall Doom modding/mapping in years.

>>7215509
Isn't all of that already possible in GZDoom?

Oh yeah, another thing you could do with UMAPINFO (again, without having to use GzDoom or anything like that), is to have a set of levels which go by branching paths, since you can define two different exits.
Basically imagine something a little like pic related but with Doom maps.

>>7215515
Yes, but it hasn't been possible with PrBoom+ or Crispy Doom until now.

>>7215515
Yeah but fags are gonna fag.
>>7215521
See?

>>7215393
>>7215396
Thanks for the explanation lads

>>7214832
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs9n_fFiq-8&list=PLl2feK8Fmw9u_qzuVVxpB_HfSOR979YuR&index=6
got filtered by village of claws
fuck this shit

>>7215524
>>7215515
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST DO SOMETHING FOR VANILLA DOOM!!!

>https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
did they take this down? I can't open it

>>7215554
Yes. It no longer is vanilla with UMAPINFO implementation. Bunch of luddites.

HooH

>>7215560
works for me

>>7215561
>demo compat
>still original pRNG
>still original rendering
>still original map limitations
Seems like it could be plenty Vanilla to me.

>>7215437
the snow one > the first one > the city one > post mortem > the fourth one > cryptic passage

>>7215574
> is to have a set of levels which go by branching paths, since you can define two different exits.
> a single 10 level episode with whatever secret levels you want, whatever skies you want, the use of 666 and 667 specials on whatever level you want, text crawls between every level, a custom intermission map screen, and a custom end graphic after the final level (maybe just a single screen, or a long one which slowly pans to one direction to show the rest of it). You don't need to attach any GzDoom strings or anything if you don't want to, and you can do Doom 1 style episodes without having to sacrifice any Doom 2 stuff.
Oh yes, very vanilla.

>>7215569
Who has the stronger melee? Archvile or Hell Nobles?

>>7215437
No.

>>7215593
t. Tchernobog

>>7215596
I wish

>>7215596
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>>7214792

Guys give me some christmass wads/mods

>>7215623
Rise of the Triad, if you play on December 25th it puts a Santa hat on Taradino Cassatt, makes snow fall in game and changes the music to God Rest Ye, Deadly Gentlemen by Lee Jackson
https://youtu.be/FVsV6LBUBiI

>>7215008
Gave up on trying to beat original Doom on Ultra-Violent. From now on I'll just enjoy my favorite game on a humanely beatable difficulty.

>>7215631
>Gave up on trying to beat original Doom on Ultra-Violent

>>7215629
But the monsters and levels are just normal ??

>>7215631
Are you paralyzed or something?

>>7215636
Well uh .. Yeah. But that song kicks ass.

>>7215623
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118404-the-12-days-of-doommas-december-speedmapping-event-wad-released/

It seems to be pretty interesting, though I didn't play it myself.

>>7215631
Literally lol

>>7215640
>Cringeworld
No thanks

>>7215631
how fucking low is your iq? jesus christ.

>>7215631
Baiting again I see

>>7215023
How fucking full of yourself do you have to be to pose for a photo like that as a fucking game designer? He is wearing a Quake necklace, this was taken during that time

>>7215653
full of your own supply. thats how full.

>>7215653
He was a rockstar.

>>7215653
>How fucking full of yourself do you have to be to pose for a photo like that as a fucking game designer?

>>7214792
Doom passed me by when it first came out, apart from trying it out occasionally on a friend's PC. I was just looking to get into it. I'm starting off with PrBoom+ on Linux. All looking good so far.

Thanks for the Torrent, OP. You the real MVP.

>>7215634
>>7215637
>>7215642
>>7215649
It's a joke difficulty to provoke people for a laugh.

>>7215668
Don't respond to this faggots bait

>>7215653
Just kinda mad Quake could have been a dark themed lovecraftian rpg with melee weapons.

I love the castles and knights.

>>7215651
>>7215670
Okay, I'm gonna speak for everybody when I say: FUCK YOU and SHUT THE FUCK UP. It's like a twentieth time I see your whining "hurr bait dont respond pls its bait durrr". You're either paranoid or autistic - but probably both.
I know a lot of people who can't beat Doom on UV - including old people, kids and disabled people. I know it's a staple of 4chan to disregard minorities but it's not even funny with you, you're just a fucking asshole.

So again: shut the fuck up and stop shitting up this place.

>>7215683
Moshi moshi baito desu

>>7215683

Thanks for saying what I was meaning to say for like 10 threads now but am too lazy to do
Merry xmas anon

>>7215683
Thanks for support I guess, but I'm not a kid or disabled... It's weird too cause I beat Crysis HD on the top difficulty and it's considered one of the hardest modern games

ULTRAKILL is based, really Quakey.

>>7215683
It's literal bait based off copypasta newfaggot fucking kill yourself

>>7215653
I'm not really seeing the issue.
>>7215680
Instead we got a dark themed Lovecraftian FPS with some melee weapons. Best possible outcome.

>>7215708
The tech was not there yet.

I have a boner for melee fpses with some occasional gun. Love Dark Messiah, Hexen 2 etc.

Fuck Vermintide 1 is an amazing game, shame its so mutiplayer centric, but the writing is good enough to satisfy a full single player like romp. Was good enough.

Curiously I didn't like amid evil that much.

>>7215706
Are you retarded? I've been in every thread ever and there was never the same post about UV posted multiple time (which what pasta is).

I don't rule out that somebody might have posted similar things multiple times (which doesn't necessarily make it baiting as well), but really statistically it's totally plausible there to be a couple guys in like 5 or 7 threads who can't beat Doom on UV.

That guy's definitely paranoid. But hey that's part of fun of 4chan

>>7215718
>The tech was not there yet.
I don't think you understand. Quake is nearly perfect in its current form. Only thing missing was some removed limits, and some additional monsters/weapons. I don't care for your RPG fantasy.

>>7215727
okay

>>7215727
Based and Quakepilled

>>7215729
No it's not okay. Stop sucking up to me. You don't belong here.

>>7215579
Who gives a shit about that part? The gameplay and the demo compat is what matters.

Oh its you. The mind broken guy from the the story in videogames discussion. Now I see.

You should do something about that neurosis anon.

>>7215653
He earned all the rights to boast. You earned none.

>>7215653
>have lots and lots of money after making some cool games
>but you shouldn't do fun shit with it
You suck.

>>7215664
Refresh my memory, but didn't "Lord British" live his larp 24/7?

>>7215680
The "What if... ?" is interesting to ponder, certainly knowing the plans in question, but I'm glad we got the game that we did, Quake is one of my favorites.

>>7215738
Who? When?

>>7215647
90% of doom mappers/modders post their stuff on doomworld. Its a good place for promotion.

>>7215756

Yeah its always fun to ponder.

Like Dark Camelot which eventually became Thief. The idea was way ahead of its time. But hard to pull off.

This guy in pic related is very Quake looking. They should have kept him in Thief as some sort of enemy.

>>7215759
Yeah no fuck off. I am staying right here fag.

>>7215727
It really just needed some proper bossfights.

>>7215771
>I am staying right here fag.
I didn't tell you not to, I asked who you were addressing.

>>7215734
okay

>>7215708
>Lovecraftian FPS
Everyone says this game is "Lovecraftian". Why? Besides Shub-Niggurath it's just brown tech installations and castles and shit, standard weapons, standard enemies, this shit is not Lovecraftian

>>7215808
>Why?
>Shub-Niggurath
hmmm

>>7215808
The monsters are pretty fucking badass that's for sure. The shambler gave me heart attacks as a little kid.

The other motherfucker\ she monster with those guided shit also as well.

>>7215779
Mods have helped us out in that regard over the years.

>>7215808
Because you're Lovecraft's cat.

>>7215683
>but it's not even funny with you
This. You shouldn't make fun of old people, kids and disabled people, unless they are niggers.

>>7215008
Made 21 addons for Hideous Destructor. I think I'll have two more out by the end of the year. Also made a website for HDest. Overall I gotta say this has been the most productive year in a while. 'Rona aside, I'm happy with it.

>>7215813
That's literally fucking it, the "story" is non existent and was just shit out by Sandy the Lovecraft autist

>>7215858
I am glad he did.

>>7215008
I contributed to 2048 Units Of /vr/ and realized I actually had some good maps in me after all.

how often should i quicksave in blood? trying to make it not to easy for myself but also not tediously hard

>>7215693
>It's weird too cause I beat Crysis HD on the top difficulty and it's considered one of the hardest modern games
I don't even know who is baiting who anymore

>>7215008
I beat Doom 1, 2, Sigil, and NRFTL on the Switch port with pistol start and no saves.
And people tend to like the maps I submitted for 2048 Units.

>>7215827
>>7215708
map?

>>7215815
The Fiend still scares the crap out of me. It and the Knight enemy seem like the Pinky demon but done right. That's one of the many things I love about Quake, the fact that the monsters are actually intimidating and can take tons of punishment. Taking the shotgun, the workhorse weapon of Doom and relegating it to pistol status definitely felt like a statement, like these enemies are so tough that pistols are useless and the shotgun can only scratch them. Hell even the almighty super shotgun requires several shots to take them down, receiving double the power of the regular shotty it's still not enough. There wasn't any power fantasy of casually mowing down hordes of popcorn enemies, you actually had to battle with them. Having tougher and fewer enemies at once was the result of hardware limitations but it really improved the game and helped make it more unique.

>>7215882
I think they really nailed the atmosphere and sound design.
The gurgling sounds of zombies being blown away are great.

If somebody wants to do a low poly horror game someday they should really look a quake seriously.

>>7215886
I really love Quake's sound design.

>>7215882
Based and Quakepilled.
>>7215881
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/unforgiven.html

>>7215779
Agreed, I would have liked if they added at least one "shoot the huge motherfucker until it dies" type boss fight. They did make up for it in some ways with the finale encounters, the Beat em Up style elevator battle that led to two Vores at the exit from Episode 2 for example.

>>7215896
thanks

>>7215631
>>7215634
>>7215637
>>7215642
>>7215649
>>7215651
Not him but I would like to aspire to do the same thing. Tried starting out the first level and maybe parcheesi is more my style.

Gnarly start
>>7215351
Infinitely tall actors block the fall in this pit AND target you mid fall; making it a deathtrap if you leave the arena down there when it lets you

>>7215008
I guess the biggest thing I did Doom-wise this year was oraganize 2048 Units of /vr/. I also made a couple maps, beat Plutonia & Plutonia 2 with pistol starts and no saves, and started mapping for Doom 64.

>>7215008
Made my first map for 2048 after enjoying pwads for years. My best map is probably the /vr/ Christmas map I posted a few threads ago, so I have a long way to go to match some of my favourite mapsets. The progress that I have made in a short time has been really motivating and I hope to do better next year.

Your face, your ass, what's the difference?

>>7215898
The elevator ride is actually pretty good.
Still though, they could have used just anything, even if it was just something like the Cyberdemon; big fast dude with fat HP and shoots rockets at you (or something similar). If anything mappers could use him as a miniboss later, just like the Cyberdemon.

That's almost Armagon, I realize, but it should have been a stock resource is what I mean.

what does anyone think of the "ghost" enemies in heretic?
like, some transparent variants that could only be killed by some weapons

>>7215827
Q1 works better with these types of map while Q2 gets the dirty sci fi stuff maps

Does anyone know of any cool city wads? Realistic looking ones if possible.

>>7215943
I don't think they enhance gameplay by much.

>>7215943
I feel like they need something extra to make them unique. Because as it stands you just keep using the dragon claw/hell staff and blast them like normal. If anything it makes gameplay more annoying as your crossbow side bolts fly though them and I'm pretty sure most people didn't even realize why some enemies felt so much tankier than others. I guess this is why modern games drown you in gameplay hints lol.

>>7215951
Hellbound's city maps are a good choice. SgtMarkIv's City Assault and After the Holocaust aren't bad either.

>>7215959
i wonder if that even inspired the spirit in doom eternal
there's also that one fanmade redesign of the chaingunner with the idea of him shooting the purple goo and it reminds me of the slowdown class in the mod champions

>>7215909

>>7215970

>>7215976

>>7215951
Lainos made some good ones:
>Doxylamine Moon : Overdose
>Deneb Colony
>Comatose (might be too taxing for GzDoom, FYI)
>5till L1 Complex
And it's not a city map, but Object 34 : Sonar is pretty cool. You might also enjoy A.L.T

>>7215979

>>7215963
>>7215981
Thnks for the help guys! It's still kind of weird to me how helpful this commuity is compared to the shithole that's /v/.

>>7215858
>>7215813
Did Sandy ever clarify the correct pronunciation of Shub-Niggurath? It is shub nigger-ath or shub-ni-gore-ath?

>>7215990
This general has stayed alive basically because it's all about the love of the game and its peers.

>>7216000
The name comes from Lovecraft's works doesn't it? Better ask him.

>>7215515
The point is that it'll be available in source ports that are friendly with demos.
>>7215561
In a literal sense, it won't be vanilla, because you obviously can't add features to the vanilla engine and still call it vanilla. But it will be within the realm of maps that otherwise simply aim for limit removing and prboom compatibility.

>>7216040
Is Painkiller based or cringe? How about the 360 exclusive?

>>7216040
And Graf is just okay with this? It sounds like GZDoom will be relegated to freeware and commercial enterprises.

>>7216046
Graf was literally the person who started the UMAPINFO fork of PrBoom+

>>7216047
wtf I thought Graf was a megalomaniacal turd fuck you /vr/

>>7215438
I've enjoyed every map so far except Gay Kisses for Christmas, it was obviously supposed to be some kind of joke but I didn't find it terribly funny.

>>7215865
Try doing it every time you get a key. Or four times per level.
>>7215882
Its kinda funny that Id got melee enemies so fucking right with Quake and then immediately went back to Pinky-tier stupidity in Quake 2.

>>7216000
It's literally ripped off of Lovecraft and the pronunciation is Shub-Nigger-Ath

>>7216046
Graf spearheaded that initiative IIRC, because he liked the idea of a common useful feature that's shared by multiple ports, and it could be implemented without sacrificing anything; he was adamant that the fork of PrBoom+ with the UMAPINFO support retain its demo compatibility, because that's one of its main functionalities.
He did suggest that someone should replace the audio code, because it's old and shitty, and that if someone wanted to they could use the code from GzDoom, but that someone else would have to do it because he's busy with other things.

>>7216049
He's got his flaws, and is pretty spergy, but he has also put a lot of work into GzDoom and he does it for the love of it (because it's not like he gets paid for it or anything, he does other programming for a living).

>>7215982
19 now

>>7216041
Huh?

>>7216083
>Maintains GZDoom for free
>Carried the torch about UMAPINFO
Wtf I love Graf now? Almost every forum post you find about him is just talking shit.

>>7215537
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjMGGETr4KU&list=PLl2feK8Fmw9u_qzuVVxpB_HfSOR979YuR&index=7

>>7216089
he might be a huge case of hit and miss

What are some of your favourite Doom midis (i.e. music that you would listen to outside of the levels they're in)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJnoQ5NMkl8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51NXr03Jdyg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFTj2IXrEHw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqq6OWa8ZHs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_NX3IoTKSQ

>>7216095
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMqoLZKHRxI

>>7216089
Maybe he wants to see how far he can stretch GZDoom in terms of features and feels that UMAPINFO is a fair compromise for some universal compatibility for players who prefer the quirks of legacy Doom.

>>7216089
Graf has his problems, but he's not nearly the awful person some make him out to be.

>>7216085
Good luck anon, that map is a legit slog

>>7216087
Is Painkiller based or cringe? How is the Xbox 360 title, Painkiller: Hell & Damnation?

>>7215943
Theyre an okay addition. They spice up gameplay a bit by making you switch from the crossbow. Well technically you can kill them with the crossbow but its very inefficient.
>>7215961
The funny thing is, logically you'd think that the main bolt is physical and the side bolts are magical. But the balance must be better this way.

>>7216095
Forgot one excellent track, makes me wish that B.P.R.D. did music outside of Doom wads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHt0sd1tEvo

>>7215537
>got filtered by village of claws
took me a few tries

>>7216104
I don't know. I never played them. Why you asking specifically me?

Was D!Zone rare? I found it sealed about 15 years ago at a neighbors garage sale who was selling old stock from a pawn shop they had for 5 bucks. I bought it and opened it immediately and it ended up in my piles of discs around my computer and subsequently lost.

>>7216106
I love his music in grove and nuts3 too

>>7216113
Oh, I didnt mean to quote you. Why don't you play them and tell me.

>>7216095
>Hidden Anger
Nice, that was the first track that came to mind when I read your question.

>>7216089
Like most people, he's multifaceted, he's got his bad sides and his good sides.

>>7216092
Yeah, he can be somewhat annoying.

>>7216115
You can find the D!Zone iso's pretty easily online.

>>7216090
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-XHFO76MDs&list=PLl2feK8Fmw9u_qzuVVxpB_HfSOR979YuR&index=8

>>7216128
No, I mean the physical boxed version obviously

>>7216128
Obviously hes talking about physical copies

>>7216089
He's the kind of guy people love to hate, talented and condescending, hard for people to really knock him down.
I appreciate his work and effort but I would never want to have a conversation with him.

>>7216095
Fuck it, while I'm posting Doom tracks (and while I'm drunk enough to post without being self conscious) here are a few more that I like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytdxP00dYgw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eJloUHWkB8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiM3sLBcAIU (just found out as of this post that Mark Klem has a youtube channel with remixes of his classic tracks)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reVg8Ep7EVM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtisv6FzD90
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZm76Qonsgk

>>7216134
>>7216135
Oh, so for collection''s sake. I dunno if they were rare.

>>7216095
Everything from TNT Revilution, and everything from Osiris TC.

>>7216115
They sold quite a lot of D!Zone if memory serves, at one point even outselling Doom, which made iD pretty pissed and lead to Maximum Doom and The Master Levels.

I don't know how common they would be today, but it shouldn't be much harder than finding something like AOL trial discs.

Playthrough video of map06 of 2048 units of /vr/ is up. A level that feels much more compact than it actually is. And the ending is adorable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CRjX1_Yxyo

>>7216142
Me neither. It was this version.

>>7216160
I loved the ending as well when I played it, reminded me of the imagination shown in '94 era Doom maps. Didn't realize this was made by ViolentBeetle, he improved a lot in Hell Frontier and Hellevator.

>>7216095
This is my favourite midi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMqoLZKHRxI

>>7216051
>it was obviously supposed to be some kind of joke
There are so many trannies and other faggots trying to grift clout off boomer shooter modding that it's probably completely serious.

>>7216169
>Didn't realize this was made by ViolentBeetle, he improved a lot in Hell Frontier and Hellevator.
I haven't played Hell Frontier and Hellevator yet, but it's on my list.

>>7216190
Burger Bill

>>7216095
Anything Stuart Rynn

has anyone ever ported/remade unreal tournament 2004's convoy map to other games?

>>7216205
Great choice, the entire AA soundtrack is irresistibly groovy.

>>7216152
>>7216161
Ah I see. Still, it would've been cool to have savrd it and still had the box and shit. A historical curiosity at least.

What I really want is some of the retailer exclusive Doom shareware covers that stores made.

>>7216205
Right.
His midi's are so good it's depressing.

>>7216103
Certainly big

>>7216240

>>7216243
heavy on setpieces

>>7216248

>>7215808

>>7216253

>>7216276
Its just a monster in the game just like the demons in Doom, nothing particularly special or Lovecraftian about it besides the superficial similarities

The Catacomb 3D series is based but the tech it runs on is shit. Has there been anyone to make a Doom TC with its assets?

>>7216129
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Emof5n5sc&list=PLl2feK8Fmw9u_qzuVVxpB_HfSOR979YuR&index=9
thanks, I hate it

>>7216129
Did you kill Santa?

>>7216290
I think the first quake takes inspiration more from the tabletop game than the original stories, while also prioritizing gameplay over story akin to doom. The game may not remain completely truthful its source material but the influence is clear if you know that game. I don't think it attempts cosmic horror, just normal horror. It gets called "lovecraftian" because at least 3 enemies and a few level names are direct references to Lovecraft stories which makes enough sense to me.

In the original story, the reason the dimensional shambler is described as wrinkly is because it's actually a man wearing the skin of one. I think the tabletop game misinterpreted this then quake took even more liberties with it. It may be inaccurate but it's still unambiguous. Here's the influence for the spawn enemy from the same book, 1988.

>>7216352
>think the first quake takes inspiration more from the tabletop game than the original stories
Did the table top games even exist yet? Didn't Sandy create the first Lovecraft tabletop game with Call of Cthulu after Quake?

>>>/wsg/3732400

The lack of ammo in Doom 2 maps 09 and 10 is pretty cringe.

>>7216501
Sandy Petersen released Call of Cthulhu RPG in 1981

>>7216041
It's based if you like oldschool horde shooters with good graphics and smooth gameplay. The original Painkiller by People Can Fly is all you need (nowadays known as the Black Edition), it runs on their original PAIN engine whereas the re-releases run on the Unreal engine. According to the Steam reviews Hell & Damnation was decent, while the original still holds a higher score. The original one already has the physics/ragdolls which is a nice addition.

>>7216551
I'll check out the original then. Is it as good or better than Serious Sam?

>>7216548
Oh shit my bad

Here here is in 1981, on the far right.

>>7216352
So Sandy literally just pulled his old RPG shit out of his ass to slap a story on Quake

>>7216558
I guess that's a personal preference, the setting in which they play is very different. Serious Sam plays in colorful, wide open areas like plains and jungles while Painkiller lets you play in close confined spaces (they lock you in an area and some hordes will spawn near you). Painkiller has a more dark, gritty atmosphere (but also some humour, somehow it's fun to shoot monks with axes). Protip: you can find both games in the Win98 downloads section in the OP.

>>7216565
Basically. The man is one of Lovecraft's greatest fanboys, and he's probably been one of the main driving forces of popularizing his works by things like the role playing game and all the inspiration and references he makes with his games in general.

>>7215886
>>7215894
didn't Trent Reznor record all the sound?

id think they slick -_-
SHE dabbin!!! XDDD

>>7216595
He recorded some sounds, most of the Ranger sounds is his voice with some pitch shifting, and I think there might have been a few recorded by Romero, at least for QTest, others were sourced from sound libraries, for instance the explosion sound effect and some of the key pickup sounds.
Then he made all the music himself.

>>7216605
awesome. the whole game has such a cozy feel.

>>7216605
Romero did all the sound effects for Hovertank with mouth

>>7216612
The guy who did the soundtrack for Quake 2, Sonic Mayhem, also did an alternate soundtrack for Quake 1? It was sending this in to Romero in 96 that got him the job doing Quake 2s soundtrack. It's called Methods of Destruction and it eventually leaked, thanks to Romero leaked his copy through a friend (Sonic Mayhem had originally not wanted it released because he thought it wasn't as good as his later work). Personally I think it's much better than Reznor's soundtrack

You can download it here:
http://p-l-m.blogspot.com/2012/04/sonic-mayhem-methods-of-destruction.html

Or the whole thing is on YouTube, this is the first track. (It's the only one that has voice samples like this also but I think it works):
https://youtu.be/Qxrf0mF7J78

>>7216190
I am a tranny faggot boomer and I was probably playing marathon before you were born. If you don’t like faggot trannies then don’t play games.

>>7216625
Awesome I will have to listen to this. I do remember sonic mayhem from the Q3 soundtrack

>>7216627
Dilate and go back to CringeWorld fucking freak

>>7216637
His best work is Quake 2 that shit is fucking bangin. Descent Into Cerberon, Quad Machine, classics.

>>7216643
>Descent Into Cerberon

>>7216627
Your degeneracy has zero to do with retro FPS.

>>7216278

>>7216598

>>7216681
tedious

>>7216697

Recently reinstalled Unreal Tournament for the first time since middle school. God damn even against bots I still get lost in that game for hours.

Whoever put the TMNT fight theme in their level in 2048 Units Of /vr/ is based as fuck.

>>7216651
Rebecca Ann Heineman, also known as Burger Becky, is a video game programmer, tournament champion, author, and web comic artist known for programming work on Doom for the 3DO.

>>7216651
>>7216797
I beg of you, please take your faggotry elsewhere.

With her BIG OL ASS.

>>7216803
ey coomer bitch enough of the big ass

>>7216780
Based

Now we wait, for the La Tailor girl x Hedon crossover outfit.

And some C. Kid.

>>7216821
I think it's the same retard who a few years back was spamming his really halfhearted doodles too.

>>7216829
how

>>7216835
Autistic obsession with a few select characters, C.Kid especially.
I've been here too long.

>>7216829
>spamming his really halfhearted doodles too.
they can't be that bad

>>7216842
They weren't bad. The problem was constantly posting them and never showing any signs of actually putting any effort forth.

>>7216821
But i'm just talking about my favorite doom mod.

>>7216826
>The UAC has been invaded!
>By Demons?
>No by Vaseline

>>7216843
>The problem was constantly posting them
how are you suppose to post them

>>7216821

>>7216838
honestly I find C.Kid poster kind of endearing

>>7216850
>WHO BITCH THIS IS?

>>7216917
Only if you please keep off the grass.

>>7216951
please stop posting this

>>7216864

>>7216951
>>7216965

BETHESDA
YOU
WILL
EMPLOY
THIS
MAN

In other news: LordHavoc, the guy behind the Quake 1 DarkPlaces Engine used for Wrath of Aeon, now goes by the name 'LadyHavoc'

>>7217020
Have they actually optimized their sourceport yet? If not, I don't fucking care about them or what they do outside of that.

>>7215191
Duke uses Effector Sprites and hitag and lotag to store information
SW uses a similar system but instead of using 2 tags it uses about 25.

Blood stores information in walls and sectors attributes directly, which is one of the thing they had to tinker Build's source for since it wasn't supported.
Once you know about a couple of hotkeys, the advantage of Blood's system is that verything is condensed into 2 menus, so everything is in one place, it's super fast ,and you have info about what you're doing in editor instead of relying on outside documentation for every single little thing.

Also, even the way effects work is easier. For instance you have one Z-Mover that can do everything and that it's, instead of having to rely on one Z-Mover that does ceiling doors, one Z-Mover that does something else, and again another. Also telling the Z-Mover to start and stop at this and that height is a simple process. Another good example is how simple it is to make double slide doors in Blood compared to Duke, and on top of that you have more control on their attributes.

Mapedit also has a couple of functions which make it more user friendly than base DOS Build, but these days that's beaten by Mapster32.

>>7217027
Based.

>>7217020
Dark places is trash. Quakespasm is based

>>7217020
Was there ever a point to use Darkplaces over other Quake source ports like Quakespasm? I always thought it was supposed to be the GZDoom for Quake, but all of the noticeable mods like Arcane Dimensions can be played with other source ports.

>>7217020
What drives these people to become completely mentally ill monkeys?

>>7215381
Most of the retards i see in those servers don't even play doom

>>7217083
>Spend 90% of your time closed down and isolated at home coding for a game that is 24 years old because you want to have your stuff done as soon as possible
>Only social connection you have are decadent forums with completely mentally ill moderators bringing in more of their kind into said places
To those anons working on maps, TCs or any other big projects; take your time, balance it and take it easy.

>>7217083
Based Dare Devil.

>>7216095
Definitely this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BexkyNAebI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8-NdxdXYZ0

>>7216951
If not for the sprites, I would've thought we have been graced by the arrival of Vasyan himself. But Vasyan absolutely hates "pooxels", so it's not him. Shame, shame, with unholy trinity of Doom schizos (sarais, alf, vasyan) fully formed we could've achieved such levels of shitposting that Heavens themselves would shake in horror.

>makes the basegame obsolete

>>7217220
DeathWish is soulless and focuses only on getting approval from zoomers by using special effects instead of making levels with actual good gameplay.

>>7217083
say what you want from south america but I only see this unleashed faggotry in usa and europe

>>7217220
No. The level design mentality is more modern in DW.

>>7217020
>it's true
what the fuck man

>>7217020
The sourceport of the devil

>>7217020
>1C now cancels Wrath because of gay genocide laws in Russia

>>7217083
Pretty much being incels but instead of hating women they do the polar opposite.

>>7217306
There's no gay genocide laws. It's more of dont ask dont tell thing.

>>7217071
QS Spiked does everything that DP and Quakespasm combined better, also FTE has QS code and it supports everything that DP has it.

Also its interesting how said people used to shit on Q2 and Q3A community FOR YEARS after planetquake's demise, only to reveal that they were the assholes projecting themselves at them all time. Double Irony that 2 communities who they hate are still alive thanks to ruskies, crocs and polacks, and are the most chill and /vr/like people on earth, pretty much a calm /doom/.

>>7216965
This looks more like bowels than actual bowel texture.

>>7217354
No, they literally banned every possibility of drag queen reading hours, how is this not a gay genocide?

>>7217020
What the fuck

>>7217306
>Vryemya prchklyochyenij
???

>>7217384
Adventure Time

>>7217379
"DarkPlaces is used in other major free software projects such as the original Nexuiz, its later fork Xonoitc, and the free/commercial Steel Storm. It was programmed by Ashley Hale (LadyHavoc, formerly LordHavoc)"

I'm guessing Ashley was formerly Ash, lul

>tfw no MtPain27 video on 2048 units of /vr/

>>7217403
Suggest it to him. He apparently has been doing that since Going Down.

Why didn't anyone say the DSDA port shows what strength armor you have on the alternate HUD? That's the best change I've seen so far over prboom+.

>>7216951
>everything coated in demon slime

>>7215008
I started making a mod, got a girlfriend, lost a girlfriend, then won an award for the mod.

>>7217484
More like
>lost a penis

>>7215008

I began work on Satanic Infestation, caused quite the uproar here, which i was unaware of because i didn't browse /vr/ at the time, and now i'm, slowly but surely, trying to make it a reality.

I also began work on another TC, which you may have seen me talk about here, and it's going along much faster than Satanic Infestation so far.

>>7217504
Well, you're technically not incorrect, but that simplifies it too much.

>>7217507
Уeбa, ты хoть oдин cпpaйт вpaгa cдeлaл yжe?

>>7217387
be careful anon, the celephais mapping discord who claims to never visit /vr/ but always comes up here when someone shits on them about they becoming pozzed, may pop up here and repeat the mantra "HOW MANY MAPS HAVE YOU MADE?"

is this /vr/ or /lgbt/

>>7217509
>Cacowards for sale, price - 1 wiener

>>7217519
Oh wait, you mean mine. Thought you meant the girlfriend.

Nah, I'm still keeping it, I'm not that insane.

>>7217515
/lgbt/

>>7217523
>girlfriend
>penis
I have bad news for you, dude.

>>7217020
look at this dude

>>7217523
Wait a fucking second, did you just implied that MTF transsexuals are insane?

>>7217512
To be honest with you, i have not really done any significant work in that area.

I am not a skilled sprite artist, and enemy sprites are tedious to make, which is why i have put it off for later.

I should probably focus on fixing the maps.

They're short, and the difficulty balancing is rather screwed up.

>>7217538
They are. Reincarnation is real and if you came out a man, you will never be a woman. You will always reincarnate as a man.

>>7217538
Unreliable irreversible surgery? Fuck that shit, you're either too brave or too much of a fool to do it. Maybe in a couple more years.

But we're deviating from the topic, this is a retro fps thread.

>>7217539
>enemy sprites are tedious to make
Famous last words.
>why i have put it off for later
You think so, but you actually put it off for never.
>I should probably focus on fixing the maps.
No, you should focus on finding out whether you are even able to do sprites. Look at fucking Freedoom, on which you are basing your entire work to begin with - after all these years, they still weren't able to replace all the sprites in a satisfactory manner, and they had way more people than you. Maps should be the least of your worries right now.

>>7217549
You are getting sooooo cancelled.

>>7216797
Burger Bill made shitty console ports, he didn't create ANY fps

>>7217551
You're right.

The first Doom alone has 10 enemies, a number which is almost doubled with Doom 2.

Even counting the ones submitted to me, it would be quite a undertaking to do them all singlehandedly, especially for somebody as unskilled as me.

I don't intend to stop work on the project completely, because a collection of public domain assets could be useful for modders, but i do agree that i have probably gotten way ahead of myself.

>>7217515
what's the difference

>>7217538
They literally are.

JANNIES! JANNIES CLEAN THIS UP! AT LEAST ALFS SHITPOSTING IS TANGENTIALLY ON TOPIC!

>>7217613
One is for gays, other is for faggots.

Is Doom and Quake compatible for Linux?

>>7217507
I could say Freedoom is cringe and cheer you on but this is a huge undertaking

>>7217620
Don't call it a grave, it's the future YOU chose.

>>7217536
>Lord Havoc is now Lady Havoc HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHHA

>>7217551
>>7217551
You're right.

The first Doom alone has 10 enemies, a number which is almost doubled with Doom 2.

Even counting the ones submitted to me, it would be quite a undertaking to do them all singlehandedly, especially for somebody as unskilled as me.

The project won't go cold, at least not any time soon, because a collection of public domain textures and sprites could be useful, but i do agree that i have probably gotten way ahead of myself.

>>7217536
Instead of encouraging this disgraceful LARP lifestyle, someone should just be beating their ass until they stop being fucking weird and creepy

I gotta ask Alf as a Marathonfag. How come you are okay with Marathon but keep shitting on HL when it's pretty clear that HL is heavily inspired by Marathon?

>>7217673
The biggest difference between HL and Marathon is that HL is heavily linear while Marathon is very open. The story is always present in HL through scripts and dialog while it's only present during the beginning and end of the levels in Marathon, making the whole narrative of the game way less intrusive. The whole terminal reading stuff also heavily works in favor for Marathon's whole aesthetic imo, the AIs feel way more special through text than through a voice.

>>7217673
I love Marathon. That DOESN'T mean I have to love derivative shit that ripped it off.

>>7217536
What the fuck is it that drives loner men with interests in vidya, code and literature to want to take estrogen and pretend they are a woman? This shit is prevalent enough now that there must be some sort of identifiable, reliable cause of it.

>>7217742
it's the water

>>7217742
it's just another cult that lures people in with false promises of happiness and ruins anyone who dares to criticize them.

>New Years around the corner
>Some friends wanna meet up on Discord, don't feel like it
>Fist time ever just sitting at PC at 0:00 1/1

I was thinking of getting hammered while playing through Doom Eternal again.
But I've played that game and the DLC so much, I'm kinda sick of it.

What are some doome Map Packs / Mods / Mega Wads good for playing
>drunk
>depressed
>unfullfilled

pls guis i needs dis.

>>7217789
Nice blog.
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/d-f/do-it

>>7216095
Seasons of Insanity from the Plutonium Midi pack

>>7217845
Kek, based.

>>7217845
Nigger

>>7216190
You mean sort of like /vr/ is trying to grift clout off doom modding?

I'm on the second stage of Doom and already feel in love. It plays really nicely with classic controls.

>>7217916
just imagine what it was like playing it on DOS with big sexy pixels

>>7217932
I'm playing it through DOSBox, so isn't it the same thing?

>>7217580
He was one of the lead devs of Killing Time, wasn't he?

>>7217960
Larry Reed programmed Killing Time, pretty sure Burger Bill just worked on a port

>>7217742
What the other guy says, it's a cult which preys on vulnerable people, vulnerable people include lonely men with aspergers.
It's actually really sad and these people are victims.

>>7217789
Play Doom 64.

>>7217960
She is listed online as Lead Programmer on MobyGames but isn't even mentioned on the Wikipedia page where Larry Reed is listed as programmer

>>7217957
Consider trying it with Crispy Doom after you're done with the episode you're on, it lets you use mouse turning while turning off the mouse movement, so you don't get that annoying part where you move back and forth when turning left or right.

>>7217972
>she

>>7217957
Go Chocolate Doom or Crispy Doom. DOS is for weirdos.

Alright you idiot it's THE FINAL SCREENSHOT SATURDAY OF THE YEAR. YOU BETTER MAKE THIS ONE COUNT, WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON, MAPS, MODS, SPRITES? DON'T LEAVE THIS YEAR BEHIND WITH REGRETS OF NOT SHOWING OFF YOUR HARD WORK.

>>7217970
The first well known tranny game dev, Dan Bunten (Danielle Bunten) regretted getting sexual reassignment surgery (which was done in the mid 90s, I can only imagine what that was like) and later said he could've lived a female identity with his dick and balls in tact just fine and should have reconsidered. He died not long after of cancer.

Also related sidenote, Rebecca Heineman actually credited John Romero for being able to see Bunten for the last time, only months before he did. Romero hosted a huge party/get together for old Apple II programmers at Ion Storms Dallas offices where he flew them all there and everything. Heineman and Bunten were two he flew out. Heineman was still Burger Bill then but said seeing him is one of the things that helped him finally decide to transition too.

>>7217995
BOY HOWDY I'M ALREADY FUCKING REGRETTING THIS THOUGH I FORGOT TO POST THE GODDAMN IMAGE.
DON'T TRY TO MAKE IMPORTANT POSTS RIGHT AFTER YOU WAKE UP.

>>7217996
>Heineman was still Burger Bill then but said seeing him is one of the things that helped him finally decide to transition too.
Looks like John Romero turned him into a bitch.

>>7215008
I spent all year drawing weapons and improving stuff, made a good side project. Then lost a good friend back in November.

>>7217995
I promise next year I'll do something..

>>7218002
Romero's wife was the parasite that ruined his brain and life

>>7218009
>iktf fellow trans bro

>>7218019
women not even once

>>7217996
>Literally burning through Eidos Daikatana money to fly irrelevant boomer tranny game devs to Dallas and throw a party
Based Romero

>>7217998
Been working on a 3D asset set for GZDoom and figured I'd use it to make a custom map for the Behead the Undead 2 mod since it thematically fits.

>>7218049
Damn, that's all GZDoom? Looks like Goldsrc. I really hope more games take on GZDoom as an engine. It seems incredibly versatile.

>Running through Cacos, Pain Elementals, and Pinkys like I'm fuckin Draino
>Get to the beach level in Golden Souls 1, and continue my genocide
>"Ahhh, everything is dea- wtf! Why is my health draining so fast?!?!"
>Its a crab

God I love this game
Love Marathon to death, but the Doom WADs and such are much more fun.

>>7218072
Golden Souls is special. Mario and Doom melded together is the ultimate comfy experience. Pure joy.

>>7217986
It's just easier in Rebecca Heinemans case since its a female name and honestly he is probably one of the most passing trannys I have ever seen, probably because he dresses and behaves as a conservative boomer lady instead of trying to look hot or something. I actually asked my wife when watching one of the vlogs on Heinemans channel about past projects if she thought it was a man or woman and she couldn't believe it was a dude.

Doom Zero was really good, I enjoyed its puzzle elements. The difficulty curve felt backwards, though. The first 12 or so maps were way harder than everything afterward.

>>7218104
It's dog shit.

Magic
snort snort

>>7218062
You can remake all of RE1 into GZD but no one has done that yet.

>>7218118
When u nut

>>7214904
I must've missed that, next thread will be updated assuming I make it again

>>7217996
Dan Bunten was a legend of the Apple II but him becoming a tranny was cringe

>>7218108
wut

i think it's an amazing wad, doing so much with so little. the puzzles are so fun.

>>7218104
I think doom zero is wonderful, one of the funnest wads i've played in a long time.

currently i'm on map 17. I disagree with your difficulty assessment, I thought they got harder in the last few? are you playing pistol start + saveless? map 16 was the hardest so far: the start easily drains your health unless you do it in a boring way, and i killed two runs on those barrels with the red arrows (first death was my blind run).

>>7218152
It's literal trash, the few original monsters are the only high point

>>7218157
for comparison, can you tell me some wads you enjoy?

also, do you play pistolstart saveless?

>>7216320
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM_PtoHVdbM&list=PLl2feK8Fmw9u_qzuVVxpB_HfSOR979YuR&index=9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhykfgqci8M&list=PLl2feK8Fmw9u_qzuVVxpB_HfSOR979YuR&index=11

>>7218118
>high-res effect next to doom-res hand sprite
cringe

>>7218162
I pistol start saveless, yes. I enjoy are Return of the Triad, Aliens TC, SIGIL, BTSX and NIGGR

>>7218062
>I really hope more games take on GZDoom as an engine.
As someone who uses GZDoom to make a standalone game, I implore you to shut the fuck up. GZDoom is okay if you want to make 2.5D FPS game, but 3D model support in it is held together staples and bubble gum, especially in case of animated models - working with them is a rectal dentistry, you are limited to vertex animation in old-ass formats that have no proper support in modern 3D software.

>>7218196
Funny, I've had a different experience with this. Do you use ZScript?

>>7218196
t. codelet

>The community project stuck in development hell so you can't subject unsuspecting people to your secret map.
Combining vanilla with sector number limit was a mistake.

>>7218176
>REKKR? More like NIGGR, does it even come with a Certificate of Authenticity from the Romero Museum, and free entry to the Romero Museum on its launch? No, it doesn't be because vikings are fucking gay dude, KNEEL and drink MY KNOB.

>>7214792
should i use the auto aim in blood?

>>7218248
Either or for Build games, but I do it without since when a cultist crouches, the autoaim fucks up.

>>7218248
I do. I definitely would in Shadow Warrior.

>>7218204
>Do you use ZScript?
I do, but this has nothing to do with it, since whether you use ZScript or Decorate, you are required to use MODELDEF.

>>7218239
can someone explain this to me

>>7217789
I can't get into nuDoom. Too repetitive.

>>7218271
It's a meme.

>>7218271
you dip

>>7218239
Lies and slander, Romero would never make such an offensive comment

>>7218271
Romero was talking shit about REKKR because Revae had broken into his house and stolen the original design document for Quake. Revae, who is an accomplished judo wrestler, driven his truck all the way to the Romero's rancho/gas station, kicked his ass and shaved his head. Since then Romero keeps coming to this thread to shitpost about REKKR (he originally used tripcode and confirmed it on his Twitter, but since then he had to stop using it because I called him a nigger and a faggot).

>>7218271
Romero shit on Rekkr for stealing SIGILs thunder for being the first to include Deathmatch areas in each single player map when he appeared in the bonus Doom episode of the Dev Game Club podcast, it got shared here and the memeposting started soon after.

Its at around 1:20:00 if you wanna listen yourself.

>>7218320
Yes, but my version is cooler, it has trucks and martial arts in it, and it is based on true story, because Romero did wrote a design document for Quake and I did called someone in this thread a nigger and a faggot.

I think Romero is the only guy that would make me question whenever this was true or not. feel like this is something he could do.

>>7218313

>>7218329
dumb esl poster.

>>7218337
please tell me that was actually him

>>7218239
wtf Romero I thought you were a cool guy? The fuck?

>>7218238
What community project are you referring to?

>>7218349
The Modest Mapping Challenge 2.

>>7218118
that's just the guncaster prism laser you hack fraud.

>>7218196
Blender 2.79 + io_export_md3.py
Even converts bone animations to vertex animations

>>7218380
Dude do you even know how old 2.79 is now.