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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>7190824

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake Trilogy (2020-11): https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Doom Shovelware
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR
Fileplanet archives
https://www.quaddicted.com/files/mirrors/ftp.planetquake.com/
Doom RPG series
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):
https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS

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=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
500ml of /vr/
BETA: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/7041037/#7043379
https://discord.gg/F968y8Wj4x

=== NEWS ===
[12-19] TerminusEst13 releases a 7DFPS GZDoom project, Kid 4 $29.99. https://terminusest13.itch.io/kid-4-2999

[12-19] Snap the Sentinel, a short standalone 7DFPS IWAD made for GZDoom inspired by SNES/Genesis games released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118627-gzdoom-snap-the-sentinel-~-short-new-iwad-for-7dfps/
https://tehrealsalt.itch.io/snap-the-sentinel

[12-19] Champions updated to v2.8
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60456

[12-18] Adoria, a Quake mod two years in the making that connects Wolf 3D, Doom and Quake to same universe is released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYw9XtcLhxg

[12-17] Doom Eternal Whiplash sprites released https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=70131#p1168102


[12-17] DSDA Doom version 0.9 released, adds support for rewinding in demos
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118074-dsda-doom-source-port-v090/?page=3&tab=comments#comment-2231944

[12-16] Doom Annihilation director Tony Giglio confirms a sequel on Twitter, says script is finished
https://www.twitter.com/tonygig/status/1332835065773002754


[12-15] Doom Zero added to the Bethesda Unity ports add-ons
https://twitter.com/bethesda/status/1338916127360086022

[12-14] Realism 2 Updated
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=68021&start=240#p1176050
https://twitter.com/kinsie/status/1338372260055240705

[12-14] Pavel Mappack released for Q2
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/pavels-mappack

[12-13] Violent Beetle releases limit removing pwad Hell Frontier for playtesting
https://www.mediafire.com/file/e9ls2ykgs92d144/hell_frontier_3009.wad/file

[12-13] Turok randomizer released by BehemothProgrammer, the maker of Tuok 2 co-op mod, on Steam Workshop

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0/edit?usp=sharing

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>> No.7195374

>>7195365
last thread is on 3rd page dumbass

>> No.7195387

MARANAX INFIRMUX
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.7195395
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imagine touching her wedding tackle

>> No.7195412

REEEEEEEE why do they give Cacowards to garbage? I genuinely made my best effort and was 100% sure I'd be at least a runner-up. Was I delusional the whole time or do they only award their friends and those who pander to them?

>> No.7195428

>>7195412
Poast your project

>> No.7195442
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>"I just f***ing hate this world, and the human worms feasting on its carcass-mmm. My whole life is just cold, bitter hatred, and I always wanted to die violently-mmm. This is the time of vengeance, and no life is worth saving, and I will put in the grave as many as I can-mmm. It's time for me to kill and it's time for me to die-mmm."
-John Carmack, E3 1995

>> No.7195454

>>7195365
For the record I accept the boof furthermore Pirate Doom is my favorite wad

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>> No.7195467

How often do you guys save per level for Doom 1 & 2? Once or twice seems about right for UV -fast pistol starts imo depending on the level. I'm trying to find the right balance between challenging and frustrating.

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>> No.7195476

>>7195442
I hate you so much
for making me laugh-mmm...

>> No.7195492

>>7195467
Doom 1 and 2, I never save midlevel. Their levels are generally short enough and easy enough to not really need them.
Final Doom, I allow one midsave per level.
Most pwads, I allow up to 3 midsaves
Stuff like Sunlust, I allow up to 7 midsaves (including the start save, this takes up all 8 save slots on prboom/eternity)

>> No.7195561

jfc those plasma gunners in scythe2 are op

i only beat them by cheesing, lucky shots, bfg spam, or per-encounter strategies. never feels like actual skill

>> No.7195581

>>7195454
based, even though I haven't played it yet

>> No.7195597

>>7195467
On iwads I don't usually save except if there's a difficult jump ahead or something.
On hard modern maps I usually save after each encounter on the same slot. I don't exactly have time to grind until I can beat them in one sitting.

>> No.7195636
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wow, quake engine looks like that

>> No.7195650

i just watched another mtpain video. someone here recommended him?

seems how much he likes a wad is purely a function of how badly it kicks his ass (independent of the difficutly he reports; e.g., he reported eviternity as difficult). he routinely finds unlimited amounts of things to complain about for even reasonably hard wads like scythe

lame.


>>7195636
sweet is that AD ?

>> No.7195661

>>7195650
One thing I learned is that doom community has wackiest opinions.

>> No.7195668

>>7195650
>sweet is that AD ?
Yeah, newest version. Big map with lots of secrets and new enemies. Very fun in co-op due to how open and non-linear it is.

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>>7195091

The first map is going along well, here's a restroom.

>> No.7195713

>>7195412
>Was I delusional the whole time or do they only award their friends and those who pander to them?
Korea man gets award for putting 7 old maps into a wad file. What do you think?

>> No.7195720

>>7195713
Makes you think.

>> No.7195721

>>7195365
>the boof
>boof
>putting drugs up your ass
>weed cigar

dude what?

>> No.7195725

>>7195395
Everything about the player sprites in Hedon is hilariously bad

>> No.7195726

Aight if Cacowards so bad name your top 10 Wads of the year. Let’s seem them tastes.

>> No.7195728

>>7195412
Both

>> No.7195732

>>7195561
Try playing DM

>> No.7195734

>>7195492
i hate saves so much that i just don't use them at all, i only beat the maps that don't drive me crazy enough on essentially blind runs

your policy seems good, though: having the save slot limitation control the savescum level

>> No.7195735

>>7195732
haha true

>> No.7195736

>>7195636
man i wish 3d environments weren't so painstaking to do in doom
and also slopes
especially 3d slopes

>> No.7195742

>>7195736
does the lua stuff help at all?

i see ribbiks commenting about his lua scripts now and then. his environments certainly are elaborate...

>> No.7195832

>>7195721
That's turbo weird shit. The guy who draws those probably thinks he is on 856 levels of irony, but he most likely needs medical attention.

>> No.7195838

>>7195726
I don't think they're BAD bad, but at this point it's clear they have a strong bias for slaughterwads and ultra-hard speedrun-oriented wads, and that's not really my cup of tea.

>> No.7195839

>>7195721
Boof is slang for weed

>> No.7195845

E1M10 Sewers and MAP33 Betray are bad levels and iD did the right thing by omitting them from later ports.

>> No.7195856

Just stopping by to say thanks for keeping Doom alive all these years anons. Fractal Doom is still my favorite wad. Take care fellas, I'm off to sleep.

>> No.7195861

>>7195669

I managed to throw together a 1 level demo, just to try and introduce people to the project.

There are certainly bugs and fuckups, so if you find any, let me know.

Here's the link:

https://amel.pw/trevie/Roams%20TC%20Alpha.pk3

>> No.7195863

>>7195856
Good night, anon! Sleep well, you'll need strength to fight demons later!

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>>7195832
>That's turbo weird shit
Mixing boomer shooters, extremely normalfag memes and niggerspeak makes for an interesting combination

>> No.7195882

>>7195861
Am I to open this in gzDoom?

>> No.7195891

>>7195861
So I tried it out and there's no ammo so I couldn't advance and explore properly. The level seems flat, but maybe it's the point. The orbs are annoying but not too annoying.

>> No.7195892

>>7195882
Yes, you should open it in GZDoom.

It might work in LZDoom and Zandronum as well, but i haven't tested it in those ports.

>> No.7195896

Doomguy is a virgin (until marriage), a devout Christian and would not partake in recreational drug use.

>> No.7195902

>>7195839
I thought boofing was putting coke or meth up your ass?

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>>7195896
>devout Christian
Most likely a mormon as well. Which means he can have an entire harem!

>> No.7195920

>>7195861

Is there some way to get ammo, pretty much after the first room you have to just use the knife

>> No.7195932

>>7195891
I was rushing the map a little, and i must have forgot to place down any bullet pickups for the Uzi.

The map could probably use some vertical variety.

I don't really know how i would make the security drones less annoying, i could probably make them not zip towards you.

>> No.7195938

>>7195896
Nah, Doomguy is a stud, in fact he should be called Doomstud because he ruined the women he's been with for other men (and women).

>> No.7195939
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what is happening with /b/, other than being based as hell

>>>>/b/842713018

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>>7195878
I appreciate them because of how bizarre they are. Also I have an ironic love for black slang (old and new), because it makes some people seethe, even if it's largely retarded.

>> No.7195950

>>7195939
>that post
KEK

>> No.7195957

>>7195939
Alf on suicide watch.

>> No.7195964

>>7195932
They are mostly alright, but I think there should be less of them.

>> No.7195971

>>7195442
I think Carmack is a swell guy but I can't get over how he dumped his old, ailing cat instead of getting her to a vet with his millions of dollars.

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>>7195940
I just need someone to translate them for me

>> No.7195978

>>7195971
Consider that he's the same guy who tried to solve his problem of needing computers by breaking into his school with thermite.

>> No.7195979

>>7195964
I went ahead and halved the total number of security drones in the office area from 8 to 4, that should hopefully make things a bit better.

>> No.7195981

>>7195978
That's hilarious, the cat thing is sad.

>> No.7195985

>>7195974
The shambler is wearing "Timberland" boots aka "Timbs" among other assorted trendy fashion items and has therefore been dubbed "Timbler" and the ranger (depicted with Brendan Fraser of Mummy movie series fames face) is admiring his cool "fresh" look.

>> No.7195989

htf does one get to play doom on linux?
I dl'd the src from id from gh but it didn't really compile from the go, and the error just made me most mad, and i want to play doom to let off steam, not troubleshoot

>> No.7195995

>>7195971
That account is probably not entirely accurate, because you can see that same cat in the background in an interview from around Quake, which was many years afterwards. He probably rehoused it at some point.

>>7195981
He went to juvie for that. Read Masters Of Doom sometime, or listen to the audio book, it's honestly a really charming story about a bunch of weird and fun people.

>> No.7196000

>>7195989
Pretty much every modern source port is compatible with Linux.

Use one of those instead of trying to compile the 20 year old source code.

>> No.7196006

>>7195989
The published source code lacks the fucking audio code (because that belonged to Paul Radek, also it was shit), furthermore there's piles of readily available sourceports you can just run on Linux.

Why the fuck would you just grab an old game's source code and compile that as is to run on a later system?

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>>7195365
What are the best megawads of 2020?

>> No.7196034

>>7196023
2048 Units Of /vr/

>> No.7196037

>>7196000
>>7196006
I want to play brutal doom, and maybe dick about with mods. The official repo offers doomretro, enyo-doom, crispydoom, and chocolatedoom, prboom, gzdoom. The guide's vid suggests gzdoom for gameplay mods- is that the way to go?

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This is a FPS right? This counts and is allowed here.

>> No.7196056

>>7196037
if you want to play Brutal Doom, then GZDoom is the way to go.

>> No.7196058

>>7196037
Yes.

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>>7196039
Yes, Material Defender is welcome here.

>> No.7196112

>>7195902
It's both. Drug slang is pretty retarded

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Playing Doom 3 for the first time since release and I can't help but wonder why they did not call it Dark 3 instead.

>> No.7196118

>>7195938
I've had many prostate milkings while gazing at a buff Doomguy.

>> No.7196124

>>7196117
they'd have to make dark 1 and dark 2 first and that would take them 10 more years

>> No.7196145

wtf is 7DFPS?

>> No.7196186

>>7196117
booooooooo.... get better material!

>> No.7196190

>>7195365
Please remove Adoria from the news list as the retarded mod creator couldn't even get it to run right. No proper install tutorial or anything. Makers like these that expect us to know how exactly they configed their specific Quake folder to run this shit need to be hanged and publicly humiliated for this shit. It's 2020, stop making shit so fucking obscure

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>>7196190

>> No.7196195

>>7196145
A gamedev event thing where people make a game in 7 days, with mixed results. Sometimes people come with a concept so good they turn around and make it a full game later on.

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>>7196193
Doesn't work. Suck my ass

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>>7196190
>>7196210
Based retard blaming other for his own inadequacy.

>> No.7196232

>>7196190
>Can't figure out how to install a quake mod

>> No.7196240

>>7196037
>prboom+
better optimized for big maps than gzdoom is, mostly vanilla gameplay though

>chocolate doom
good for vanilla purists. basically dosbox doom but easier setup and easier install

>crispy doom
also good for vanilla purists but has uncapped framerate and can be set to your monitors resolution

>gzdoom
best for mods like brutal doom. may experience slowdown with certain maps, usually runs fine though.

>> No.7196250

>>7195938
>Doomstud
Lol, he's a fucking beta and it's canon, his own squad left him behind and took away his weapons because they thought he's too much of a loser to fight properly.

>> No.7196252
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Hey Square Guy! I humbly request your aid. In E1M1 do you know how to get the ammo on the ledge in top left of pic rel?

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>>7196252
Also, do you know how I might get up here? Same level. I am only missing one more secret and it's driving me nuts.

>> No.7196259

>>7196250
>everyone else fucking dies and comes back as satan's bitch
>kills a bunch of demons, dies, kills hell back and gets kicked out for it
Shows how wrong they were

>> No.7196262

>>7196023
1000 lines 2

>> No.7196261

>>7196250
Incorrect, they took them away because he's a morally righteous chad who beat the shit out of his commanding officer when ordered to open fire on unarmed civilians. Look it up, it's true.

>> No.7196265

>>7196259
I think it's more that he killed so many demons that they couldn't really stop him from leaving hell, which is why he went to Earth and then went for another visit to hell, to wreck it more.

>> No.7196273

>>7196229
>>7196232
Already tried game command and map command and nothing. Anything beyond that and I'm not fucking with any more only to get a possibly mediocre product. Again, mod maker needs to make shit as simple as possible to install.


Eat my ass

>> No.7196274

>>7196265
See? He is so much of a pussy he can't even fight fucking UNARMED civilians. Now imagine if they were armed?

>> No.7196275

>>7196273
Retarded AND suffering from sour grapes.

>> No.7196283

>>7196275
>wanna play my mod?
>NO! I will not tell you how to get it running
Are you the faggy mod dev himself? Fix your shit retard

>> No.7196287

>>7196283
You're already suffering from terminal buttpain and it sounds like you've already given up on running it, just move on anon.

>> No.7196295

>>7195908
dare i say, bas8?

>> No.7196297

>>7196287
>my mod is 2smart4u tee hee
Again retard, it's 2020. Test your fucking shit to make it work. Plenty of other mods in my folder that work with no issues yet yours doesn't. Fix your shit, lazy nigger

>> No.7196304

>>7196297
I'm not even the mod dev but your asshurt is making your posts glow at this point.

>> No.7196306

>>7196304
>i eat shit for free
Do you use linux too?

>> No.7196309

>>7196056
>>7196058
>>7196240
>>7196000
>>7196006
I set it up, thanks, guys.

>> No.7196317

what is the best doom source port for android?

>> No.7196319

>>7195878
CRUDUX CRUO

>> No.7196327

>>7196317
DoomRPG

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>>7196306
fitting how someone who can't even work a sourceport would accuse others of being competent at technology like it's a bad thing

>> No.7196367

>Spent hours setting up a puzzle battle with 3 arch-viles
>25 players show up and kill them with plasma

Life is pain lmao

>> No.7196406

>>7195467
I usually just forget to until I die unexpectedly.

>> No.7196413

>>7195725
Yeah. I like the textures in hedon but the sprites generally are pretty shit. The level design is fine for exploration too but lacking for combat, which isn't necessarily horrible, just not ideal imo.
It's a huge effort and much of it pays off but it didn't hit me quite.

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>>7196367
Is this TNS? Nothing a few craftily placed multiplayer cyberdemons can't fix.

>> No.7196418

>>7196117
It really is ridiculous how dark this game is.

>> No.7196426

>>7196117
It was dark because of CRT Screens
if you want retard dark, check oblivion with Oscuro and real lights

>> No.7196447

>>7196117
>Doom3 le too dark

It's like 2005 all over again

>> No.7196452

>>7196447
M8 it really is ridiculously dark with the brightness turned all the way up. You literally can't see enemies in the darkness unless they pass in front of a light in the background. Or maybe I just need to wear my glasses.

>> No.7196456

>>7196452
Your supposed to use the torch then swap to a gun when something appears. It's to build tension. I don't get how this just doesn't click with people.

>> No.7196458

>>7196456
Just use the flashlight as a bludgeon, it's absurd how much damage it does.

>> No.7196471

>>7196458
>When you slap an imp with your light so damn hard his entire body disintegrates

>> No.7196472

>>7196471
It's funnier clubbing zombies with it and watching them skeletize on the spot and their whole brain just flies out.

>> No.7196496

>>7196456
Yeah but this feels shitty

>> No.7196505

>>7196317
DeltaTouch. it comes with gzdoom, lzdoom, zandronum, prboom+, chocolate doom, doom retro, and a doom 3 sourceport.

you might also want to check QuadTouch. it has quakespasm spiked, darkplaces, quake 2, and quake 3 arena.

>> No.7196506

>>7196458
I once accidentally craned an arch-vile in the face with the flashlight like that, because its design in Doom 3 makes it look too similar to the Imps. Still worked out though.

>> No.7196507

>>7196496
Then play BFG edition if it bugs you so much, you're literally the audience they made it for.

>> No.7196509

>>7196496
So what. The only unique thing Doom 3 has going for it is that it's dark as fuck, finding the enemies by listening to their sounds and seeing their silhouettes IS the gameplay. Take it out and you're left with an extremely bland early 2000's FPS.

>> No.7196510

>>7196317
Freedoom is free and can run vanilla doom wads.

>> No.7196514

>>7196496
Outside of the zombies every enemy will emit light or you won't fight them in a completely dark environment. I can't think of a single moment in the entire game where I was really annoyed I couldn't see what was hitting me. I guess maybe the part when you have to follow a light source, but thats when you follow the light.

>> No.7196516

>>7196496
Well send iD Software a sternly written email then

>> No.7196519

>>7196506
Makes you wonder what the fuck that flashlight is made of, or what powers it

>> No.7196521

>>7196496
Consider a flashlight mod then.

>> No.7196525

>>7196519
I'm assuming that its body it's a tube of machined vanadium steel, so it's sturdy and dense as fuck, and Doom3guy is just stronk.

>> No.7196618
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7196618

As long as we're talking about Doom 3, what the fuck was up with its armor system?

>> No.7196625
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7196625

>>7196618
I like boomstick in Doom 3 more than NuDoom.

>> No.7196628

>>7196618
Technically its similar to regular Doom, absorbing 30% instead of 33%. The lack of a 50% absorption in mega armor upgrade really hurts your health.

>> No.7196659

>>7196190
it surely doesn't run on quakespasm

>> No.7196663
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7196663

>>7196659
>>7196190
who would have thought

>> No.7196668
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7196668

>>7196659
Another tard can't open a readme file? It works fine

>> No.7196670

>>7196452
The shadows are 100% black. That's a gameplay and style decision. If you turn your brightness up all it's going to do is make the rest of the game look like shit.
>>7196496
It doesn't.

>> No.7196671

>>7196514
>I guess maybe the part when you have to follow a light source, but thats when you follow the light
even then when you walk away in the dark to get ammo there are no monsters

>> No.7196672

>>7196514
>zombies
I just shot a zombie with the shotgun and could not tell if he died because of how dark it was lol, I had to backstep and flashlight to double check.

>> No.7196673

>>7196668
I'm the same poster you fucking aspie
>>7196659
>>7196663

>> No.7196682
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7196682

>>7196625
>some people are defending this crime against shotguns in first person shooters

>> No.7196687

>>7196673
Maybe try console gaming instead, this is clearly too hard for you

>> No.7196691

>>7196672
Just play the BFG edition if you're that incapable of telling if an enemy is dead or not. You're having problems no other person has.

>> No.7196692

>>7196687
not being able to notice sarcasm is a common symptom of autism, there is nothing wrong with that

>> No.7196694
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7196694

Going through the OG games again for the first time in a while. Fuck everything about the middle levels of Doom II. I'd hate them less if I had them memorized, but it's been forever and I've long since drank those memories away. Fuck Downtown and The Chasm in particular.

>> No.7196702

>>7196694
half of doom 2 maps are incredible bad and indefensible

>> No.7196708

>>7195878
>no word of a lie
Why do only black communities still use 19th century expressions? I'm jealous.

>> No.7196716

>>7196694
Yeah, most of the bad maps are in the middle.

>>7196702
Only like four levels in the entire set are straight up awful.

>> No.7196723

>>7196618
I had to learn to love Doom 3 and Half Life's shotguns. They are great powerful guns at close range, but I had been spoiled by Doom and Quake's overpowered boomsticks.

>> No.7196724

>>7196723
Half Life is great with double shot.

>> No.7196732

>>7196716
>Only like four levels in the entire set are straight up awful.

Refueling Base, Downtown, The Chasm, and Icon of Sin?

>> No.7196740

>>7196732
All those except the chasm r0x0r tho. Inb4 muh arrow.

>> No.7196742

>>7196732
No, Yes, No, and Eh.
Catacombs, Nirvana, Bloodfalls, and Factory are the ones I really can't stand. Downtown and Icon Of Sin are weak, but I don't dislike them that much, Refueling Base and The Chasm are levels I love.

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7196776

>>7195442
>Uh... Ok thanks John! Cool stuff from John Carmack of id Software everyone! Next up we've got more first looks at Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest, EarthBound, and Killer Instinct and an exclusive interview with Shigeru Miyamoto of Nintendo when our coverage of the Electronic Entertainment Expo 1995 continues after this, don't miss it!

>> No.7196792

>>7196740
>Inb4 muh arrow.
Nah, for me it's muh stupid jumps

>> No.7196794

>>7195957
I don't care what happens on /b/, I haven't been on /b/ since the 2000s.

>> No.7196798

>>7195721
Boof can also be slang for blunt.

>> No.7196818
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7196818

>>7195442
Don't wanna mess with him.

>> No.7196825

>>7196794
because you were not born

>> No.7196827

>>7196348
>I do like spending more time troubleshooting than playing vidya
Fucking called it

>> No.7196837 [DELETED] 

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118705-doom-and-the-golden-age-of-fps/?page=2

They're fucking fighting about half-life now lol they forgot about alf

>> No.7196847

>>7196252
That motherfucker ain't here

>> No.7196850
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7196850

>>7196519
>>7196525
People didn't carry Maglites because they were particularly bright or long-running.

>> No.7196854

>>7196850
Oh yeah I know that much, but I've never seen a maglite knock a person's skeleton out.

>> No.7196860

I made the mistake of buying Duke 3D on steam and now I'm stuck with a version with shitty mouse controls. Anything I can do to fix it?

>> No.7196872

>>7196860
Get a refund? Download eDuke?

>> No.7196873

>>7196860
piracy

>> No.7196880
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7196880

>>7196250
Complete retard, Doomguy is a canonical CHAD:
>You're a marine, one of Earth's toughest, hardened in combat and trained for action. Three years ago, you assaulted a superior officer for ordering his soldiers to fire upon civilians. He and his body cast were shipped to Pearl Harbor, while you were transferred to Mars, home of the Union Aerospace Corporation.

>The UAC is a multi-planetary conglomerate with radioactive waste facilities on Mars and its two moons, Phobos and Deimos. With no action for fifty million miles, your day consisted of suckin' dust and watchin' restricted flicks in the rec room.

>A Chilling S.O.S.
>A few hours ago, Mars received a garbled message from Phobos. "We require immediate military support. Something fraggin' evil is coming out of the Gateways! Computer systems have gone berserk!" The rest was incoherent. Soon afterwards, Deimos simply vanished from the sky. Since then, attempts to establish contact with either moon have been unsuccessful.

>You and your buddies, the only combat troop for fifty million miles were sent up pronto to Phobos. You were ordered to secure the perimeter of the base while the rest of the team went inside. For several hours, your radio picked up the sounds of combat: guns firing, men yelling orders, screams, bones cracking, then finally, silence. Seems your buddies are dead.

>> No.7196885

>>7196850
>People didn't carry Maglites because they were particularly bright or long-running.

You're correct. I carried on in my bag during night walks to use as a blinding/bludgeoning weapon in case anyone fucked with me in coon town.

>> No.7196886

>>7196506
>*BAM!*
>Oh shit, you're not an Imp!

>> No.7196889

>>7196860
Download BuildGDX and run it using the Steam Duke files.

>> No.7196892

>>7196850
Some of the old ones could certainly be used as batons, but you'd need to be a real mighty giganigga to turn a person's body into giblets with just one or two strikes.

>> No.7196893

>>7196885
They're excellent for that. Had a tweaker friend (maglites and really all flashlights are famously popular with tweakers) who killed someone with one. The guy had beaten his girlfriend enough to give her a brain bleed and he was a friend of hers. So my friend and the chicks brother and a few other people abducted this guy, apparently the plan was to tie him to a chair in an abandoned house and beat him for awhile then leave him. Well he beat him in the fucking head with his maglite and the fucking guy died. He's in prison now.

>> No.7196901

>>7196694
Why is Doom 2 even Doom 2 and not just an official expansion pack?

>> No.7196904

>>7196837
Doomfags are mentally ill.

>> No.7196905

>>7196670
>The shadows are 100% black.
Me too.

>> No.7196908

>>7196837
I just set the fire. That's all.

>> No.7196909

>>7196860
You now legally own the .GRP data files and can load those up in a source port and pat yourself on the back for not being a pirate.

>> No.7196913

>>7196880
I bet the girls squirt uncontrollably when he pounds their assholes with his BFG.

>> No.7196915

>>7196893
It's vaguely interesting how the Maglite and its precursor were specifically designed for law enforcement and wound up being the carry of choice of meth heads who can't stop their hands shaking long enough to open a knife and who really think, "I was jus carryin this two foot long, three and a half pound chunk of machined aluminim so I can see my way thru this brightly lit parking lot," will be a believable statement.

>> No.7196917

>>7196880
Fraggin' cool (We) are.

>> No.7196919

>>7196893
Sucks all around.

>> No.7196923

>>7195553
Arcane Dimensions has an extra difficulty called Evil, which is skill 4.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/arcane-dimensions/features/evil-skill

>> No.7196925

>>7196915
>I was jus carryin this two foot long, three and a half pound chunk of machined aluminim so I can see my way thru this brightly lit parking lo
That's 100% why the cops have them too. Any self defense advisor will say to carry what the cops carry. Use their ammo, their tools. That way it's less likely to be seen as excessive force.

>> No.7196929

>>7196880
Doomguy cant be a chad because Doomguy is a virgin and doesnt even know what sex is

>> No.7196930
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7196930

>>7195636
Love Quake. Pic related is Raven Keep.

>> No.7196932

>>7196893
>Well he beat him in the fucking head with his maglite and the fucking guy died.
Nothing of value was lost, I suppose.

>> No.7196936
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7196936

Taking Citadel requests among other doom mods.

>> No.7196939

>>7196936
uh...
gmota's sir blaz and malcom from trailblazer smoking weed?

>> No.7196940

>>7196929
stop projecting your fucking filth onto the doomguy you speccy rat-faced nerd

>> No.7196941

>>7196936
Jung Hae-Lin, and Shihong. Both from Demonsteele

>> No.7196947

>>7196847
I don't mean the creator, I mean the guy who kept posting about hardware vs software mode. I bet he knows what to do.

>> No.7196957

>>7196939
Blaz is too much of a choirboy to smoke weed.

>> No.7196958

>>7196929
That was a fake Tweet from Carmack, he never said Doomguy was a virgin who doesn't know what sex is. He was a US Marine for fuck sake, there's no way any of them wouldn't know what sex is with the talk that goes on in barracks. It's certain Doomguy got laid before shipping out offworld knowing he might not get a chance for a while

>> No.7196963

>>7196940
He's right though. I think it was Carmack who said he's a virgin.

>> No.7196964

>>7196958
Oh, was that a fake tweet? If so, disregard me >>7196963 here, I suck cocks.

>> No.7196965

>>7196963
>>7196964
Yes that wasn't real.

>> No.7196970
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7196970

:^)

>> No.7196972 [DELETED] 

>>7195721
Boof, nigger slang: Blunt
Boof, white people slang: Putting drugs up your ass

>> No.7196981
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>>7196936
Also she has BIG ASS I hope the la tailor girl man puts in her outfit.

>> No.7196989

if i ever make a mod with fetishy oc's on it, i'll let players kill off a character, if they wanted
unlike whatever the caves of qud guy did with one particular character but that's off-topic for now
what mods actually consider whether or not the player likes certain characters?

>> No.7196991

>>7196694
>the chasm
Fellas I can't lie, I just idclev past that one.

>> No.7196998
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7196998

>>7196991
You wanna know a good Chasm though? Chasm: The Rift.

>> No.7197004

>>7196998
The levels suck ass.

>> No.7197006
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7197006

你好!我的名字叫蒂姆·斯威尼(TIM SWEENEY),我爱中国共产党。习近平是一个伟大的人,我希望将来与我的中国共产党朋友们进行更多的合作!

>> No.7197009

>>7196981
>>7196936
I remember, doekuramori. The dev of the citadel said the main character, the martyr is a prostitute. A holy prostitute or something and comforts the little shop guy after the mecha thing in the hub world dies.

>> No.7197014

>>7197004
That's what the Zdoom mod is for.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=68156

>> No.7197020

>>7195365
>WILL YOU ACCEPT?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CsLD14ro2I

>> No.7197031

>>7197020
The Everlasting Joint, it never ends.

Do slavs squat when they smoke weed?

>> No.7197034
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7197034

>>7196981
I dunno I havent played it
butt it could happen

>> No.7197039 [DELETED] 

>>7197034
i hate this guy, fuck you

>> No.7197040

>>7196837
Wait, Sergeant is not banned there? I thought he was /ourguy/, and now it turns out he's a troon?

>> No.7197046

>>7197040
He's a known far what did you expect?

>> No.7197057

The virgin Doomworld vs the Chad Life fan

>> No.7197065
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7197065

>Doomworld? Is that a Half-Life mod?

>> No.7197073

>>7197046
*fag

>> No.7197080

>>7196936
Draw her showing her DFC.

>> No.7197083

Children, this is the comfiest thread on /vr/ please stop shitting it up with drama faggotry.

Anyways, what .wads have you been playing? I'm going through JPCP and having a blast!

>> No.7197089

>>7197083
Drama faggotry is comfy and being able to speak freely about whatever is what makes /doom/ max comfy

>> No.7197093

>>7197089
Sure if you're a fucking loser lmao
>>7197083
Going through DB Autumn. Lovely stuff.

>> No.7197104

>>7196936
What’s with your obsession with citadel and vore? might as well request arti getting vored just to btfo kegan for not putting castlevania music with kustam

>> No.7197115

>>7197104
I told you! I can't put it in because I need a license! Why do you guys keep shitting on me? I am just going to fucking just delete all my mods and stop making anything for anyone but me.

>> No.7197118

>>7197115
Do it you won't faggot

>> No.7197125

Brehs, how do I prepare for Ultra-Violence? Tried it and I don't know if I can go through the whole game like this.

>> No.7197130

Whete the fuck is Civvie's Christmas special?

>> No.7197131

>>7197125
what are you having difficulty with?

>> No.7197138
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7197138

Bahahahhaa Romero on a Camaro, based Tom Hall

>> No.7197140

>>7197115
Is this a larp? If it’s not fug u, you better not delet ur shit or I kill u.

>> No.7197141

>>7197130
In your ass, faggot

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7197142

>>7197104
I'll come over there and put a belt to your sorry ass, anon.
Besides, it'd be daft to put Castlevania music with Kustam, that shit's too iconic. If you haven't noticed I try to avoid music from the BIG games because it's too closely associated with their series.

>> No.7197147

>>7197083
I'm playing Valiant but can't beat the first level without saves.

>> No.7197151

>>7195369
dsda v10.0 released

>> No.7197152

>>7195636
>>7196930
How the fuck is this a 24-year old game?

>> No.7197154

>>7197142
You startin cunt? This isn't me, stop LARPing. I told you fucking nonces I'll delete my shit and I meant it. I'll smash your fuckin gobber in.

>> No.7197156
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7197156

>>7197138
How about good gameplay on a RoTT?

>> No.7197157

>>7197083
i'm playing through scythe 2. the last couple maps are hard and i don't like grinding so i sort of alternate. i haven't yet beat (uv-max pistolstart saveless) 24, 25, 26, 27, 29, 30. they all seem hard.

also i just started doom zero. it's really fun and well made, indeed feels like original doom, with slight/subtle/tasteful modernization. i'm really impressed and understand why they included it in the bethesda port.

>> No.7197159
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7197159

>>7197156
Fuck off

>> No.7197160

>>7196507
I have adjusted to the darkness and I appreciate the atmosphere the devs were attempting to create with these decisions, but idk, the magnitude of the darkness still seems excessive. I am too invested to switch now. I'll keep trucking through on veteran and possibly play kn nightmare afterwards.

>> No.7197165

>>7196112
no surprise there

>> No.7197167

>>7197160
Since we are talking about the darkness in Doom 3, I am gonna repost this funny Usenet post from around when Doom 3 released I found:
>>John Carmack, creator of DOOM3, has announced the birth of his first child. A boy named Daemon, born on Friday the 13th, 2004. "Beelzebub had such an influence on all the DOOMs that it seemed only fitting that we consecrate the child with a name seeped in evil idolatry," said Carmack. Moreover while the child was born in an ultra-modern hospital Carmack insisted that the hospital's electrical power be cut to 12% of optimal usage with the doctors' only direct illumination provided by a single hand-held flashlight. "It's scarier this way," explained Carmack. "Besides then the sharp points on the kid's head look more pixilation seams than little devil horns." The Hospital's staff went along with Carmack's weird 'in the dark' requests mostly because he was so damn rich and the fact he was waving a chaingun around at the time he checked his wife into the facility.

>> No.7197169

>>7197147
Don't play shit wads.

>> No.7197172
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>>7197152
It is and isn't. Those maps cannot run on DOS Quake. Quakespasm and its variants have removed limits of old.

>> No.7197182

>>7197172
Damn can you actually go up in all that and explore it?

>> No.7197183

>>7197138
Injun on an engine?

>> No.7197186

>>7197183
That would also work

>> No.7197190

>>7197169
nice bait

>> No.7197191

>>7196682
Does this make the game easy or hard?

>> No.7197197

>I try to avoid putting good music
y tho? You don’t need to put bloody tears or whatever just pick the underrated shit.

>> No.7197203
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>>7197154
I don't even talk like that, but if you'd like I can just start posting webms of crap I'm working right now to prove who's the faker here.
If you wanted me to post progress, you could have just asked. I just don't have too much exciting shit to show right now.

You wouldn't really think about it but making a GOOD BFG tier weapon can be a pain in the ass, let alone several of them. I hope no one was too attached to the Daibatana, cus that shit's gone.

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>>7197182
90% of the time. If you've been out of the Quake loop, Arcane Dimensions is a good place to start.

>> No.7197212

>>7197197
Wut?

>> No.7197213

>>7196723
>Quake shotgun
Compared to Doom, it doesn't seem to decimate enemies. Or am I playing it wrong? I never shoot at point-blank range, maybe a meter or two away. Doom super shotgun is fucking insane.

>> No.7197214 [SPOILER] 
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7197214

How do you guys think Shadow Warrior 3 is looking? I really liked the first reboot. Hope they learned from the shitty second one.

They said they'll release a demo if Matt McMuscles gets 100k retweets (he has 4k lol)
https://www.twitter.com/MattMcMuscles/status/1339995789309960194

>> No.7197216

>>7197197
Anon, every track in the three NES castlevania games are incredibly iconic.
Also fuck you I like the tracks I picked out for Kustam, there's a lot of David Wise in that list.

>> No.7197217

>>7197197
>>7197142

>> No.7197220

>>7197214
NO PAIN NO GAIN, HAHA!

>> No.7197221

>>7197203
You talk like that you fuckin rotter, stop takin the piss

>> No.7197224

>>7197213
Quake's double barrel shotgun is more workhorse than behemoth. Still, you should be getting really close to enemies for it to be effective. Learn to bait melee attacks.

>> No.7197228

>>7196860
>>7196872

>> No.7197231

>>7196860
Get BuildGDX.
https://m210.duke4.net/

>> No.7197232

>>7197217
>>7197228
Why do you do this

>> No.7197238

>>7197232
i updoot the epic comment

>> No.7197242

>>7196872
>>7196889
>>7197228
>>7197231
I tried BuildGDX but mouse aiming still feels kinda fucked. Like there's too much mouse acceleration. Could it be something hardcoded in the Steam version or am I nuts?

>> No.7197243

>>7197238
based
>>7197232
cringe

>> No.7197245

>>7197232
The second one wasn’t even me lol

>> No.7197247

>>7197242
You can adjust the X and Y movements of BuildGDX to your heart's content within the game's options menu.

>> No.7197254

>>7197214
From what I've seen in the teaser, at very least it's not going to be as bad as SW2, but that's not saying much. SW2 did everything wrong, it was a game tailor-made to piss me off with every design decision.

>> No.7197257

>>7197238
At least contribute a few words of agreement or something cunt

>> No.7197269
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7197269

it's the hard knock life

>> No.7197273

>>7197131
Surviving.

>> No.7197275

>>7197269
haha look at this idiot playing hexen

>> No.7197282

>>7197224
I try to bait, but get chainsawed immediately. Enemies are very fast.

>> No.7197287

>>7196923
Thanks, anon, that mod's on my playlist.

>> No.7197295

Eviternity or Valiant?
Which one is better?

>> No.7197301

>>7197156
i loled

>> No.7197310

>>7197295
they are very different

both are not that hard and pretty much anyone can get into them. eviternity is harder overall, but still very reasonable.

eviternity imo is more about the architecture and the map visuals, whereas valiant is about "fun" gameplay (run around a lot, have the crazy chaingun, fun new enemies).

everyone ends up playing both

>> No.7197325

>>7197160
>the magnitude of the darkness still seems excessive
This is because it is.

>> No.7197335

>>7197203
Is your stuff still Zandro compatible?

>> No.7197345

>>7197335
Yep, it's a pain in the ass at times, but I still think it's worth it.

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7197354

>>7196936
>this kind of body from this angle

>> No.7197362

>>7197345
Pretty based. GZDoom standalone FPS from you when?

>> No.7197371

>>7197362
Never, sadly. When I am done with GMOTA and Combined_Arms, I am done with modding. I want to move on and make standalone games away from this damn engine.
Though the games I make will have Blaz and the other characters I've made over the years, I love them too much to just leave them behind.

>> No.7197372

>>7195902
Boof, coon slang: Blunt
Boof, white people slang: Shoving speed up your ass

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>>7197275
Hexen and Heretic are both based as fuck

>> No.7197381

>>7197269
but in hexen maulotaurs are your buddies

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>>7197295
>>7197310

>> No.7197410
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>"Like most things, it is difficult to come up with a single weighted sum of the value of a programmer. I prefer to evaluate multiple axis independently. Programming is really just the mundane aspect of expressing a solution to a problem. There are talents that are specifically related to actually coding, but the real issue is being able to grasp problems and devise solutions that are detailed enough to actually be coded. Being able to clearly keep a lot of aspects of a complex system visualized is valuable. Having a good feel for time and storage that is flexible enough to work over a range of ten orders of magnitude is valuable. Experience is valuable. Knowing the literature is valuable. Being able to integrate methods and knowledge from different fields is valuable. Being consistent is valuable. Being creative is valuable. Focus is extremely important. Being able to maintain focus for the length of a project gets harder and harder as schedules grow longer, but it is critical to doing great work."

>"I certainly respect the abilities of my primary competitors. Back in the DOOM days, Ken Silverman was extremely impressive, and today Tim Sweeney is producing much of value."
-John Carmack, 1999

>> No.7197413

>>7197371
Build Engine GMOTA when

>> No.7197416

>>7197413
Yes, switch to Build

>> No.7197419

>>7197405
Patricians abound.

>> No.7197468

>>7197214
It looks like a cheap knock off of Doom Eternal

>> No.7197474

>>7197468
Nu uh

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>>7197214
Know what I hate? How modern young Wang from the new Shadow Warrior games has replaces old Wang from the originals. Like you have all this art of Duke and Caleb and then fucking young nuWang because old Wang is "problematic". This art is probably one of the only good ones with old Wang besides official stuff from back then.

>> No.7197505

>>7197495
Fags gonna fag. Old Wang is a badass. Nu-Wang is likable, but he's not Old Wang.

>> No.7197514 [DELETED] 

>>7197354
In the first age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lengthened, one stood erect. Burned by the embers of Armageddon, his cock blistered by the fires of Hell and tainted beyond ascension, he chose the path of perpetual torment. In his ravenous lust he found no peace; and with boiling blood he scoured the Cumbral Plains seeking vengeance against the dark lords who had wronged him. He wore the crown of the Night Sentinels, and those that tasted the bite of his cock named him... the Coom Slayer. https://youtu.be/QHRuTYtSbJQ?t=37

>> No.7197518

>>7197310
I don't see how an casual would play Eviternity's MAP 15 without savescumming

>> No.7197523
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I got an idea - make PWADs themed around music.

What if there was a Doom total conversion, like Adventures of Square, except it's themed on retro-synth music like this ( https://youtu.be/MECmEH8MWvo ) with black and neon colors? I suppose you could just keep the Square assets and make the map instead.

Or a short punk-rock-themed vanilla or limit-removing pwad; there's something punk rock about Strg.wad, for example. I dunno who the protagonist would be, it might just be Doom Guy in a Mad Max or Fallout post-apocalyptic world killing enemies with mohawks and goggles (to keep the sand out of their eyes). https://youtu.be/zv1XVILhzH0

or a vampire themed pwad with black metal music that takes place at night https://youtu.be/XRnxFh5YWk4

or something medieval castle / dungeon themed, like Quake or Hexen. DBP20: Dungeons & Demons did this well. https://youtu.be/XZCfKAgmKyo

The music would be MIDIs but I dunno where to find them

>> No.7197524

>>7197354
In the first age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lengthened, one stood erect. Burned by the embers of Armageddon, his cock blistered by the fires of Hell and tainted beyond ascension, he chose the path of perpetual torment. In his ravenous lust he found no peace; and with boiling blood he scoured the Cumbral Plains seeking vengeance against the dark lords who had wronged him. He wore the crown of the Night Sentinels, and those that tasted the bite of his cock named him... the Coom Slayer. https://youtu.be/QHRuTYtSbJQ?t=61

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>>7197505
Pretty much how I feel. The plan is probably to keep making games and he grows older with them, to become more like the original character, but they've got some way to go.

>> No.7197528

>>7197523
Oi mate put in some Oasis tunes for me mum she loves em innit

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PLAY RISE OF THE TRIAD 2013

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>>7197310
>>7197518
Eviternity ramps up about 12-15 to being difficult enough to require a midsave, and at 15 where I'm currently at I imagine it'll need a third save

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>>7197527
Unless SW3 flops of course. Equally of course, the original game exists in full. Side note, I'm pretty gobsmacked at how hard it is to find good fanart of old Lo Wang compared to new. It's quite saddening actually.

>> No.7197562

>>7197254
Pretty much how I feel. Nicer graphics, weapons felt more responsive and satisfying in their animations and sound, and the new music was good, but man, oh man oh man, it was a really unsatisfying game.
If the 2013 game was a 7/10, the 2015 SW2 was like a 4/10 for no good reason, it's amazing how they undid so many of the things which the previous game did right.

>> No.7197563

>>7195365

Man it's so crazy to finally find this place after playing this game for pretty much 30 years straight. Not sure there'll be anybody more experienced than me here, but just in case there is: do you guys think Doom II is beatable on Ultra-Violent or is it a "joke difficulty"?

>> No.7197567

>>7197560
I really, really want SW3 to know all the flaws of SW2 and to not do them, and remember all the good things about the 'first' game.
Wouldn't hurt if it also took some good lessons from the actual first game as well.

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>>7197563
>Not sure there'll be anybody more experienced than me here, but just in case there is: do you guys think Doom II is beatable on Ultra-Violent or is it a "joke difficulty"?

>> No.7197571

>>7197563
This wasn't funny the last twelve times, and it's not funny now, it won't be funny the next times either.

>> No.7197572

>>7197563
Anon keep up, the real trending meme is calling Super Mario Bros impossible.

>> No.7197575

anyone backing up any mods with mediafire links?
even that is fucking up like pastebin
nobody learned from tumblr's porn ban or youtube as a whole

>> No.7197576

>>7197571
>>7197572
Sorry what? This is my first time on this board.

>> No.7197582

>>7197410
>I certainly respect the abilities of my primary competitors
Said the man who openly hated Build engine even though Build games kicked Quake's ass.

>> No.7197583

>>7197575
I like mediafire because it keeps track of how many times a file was downloaded, but MEGA lets you have 50gb for free. Use that.

>> No.7197585

>>7197563
Newfag, please. Ultra-Violence is not that bad.

>> No.7197587

>>7197527
Sounds like nuTombRaider, where every new installment was supposed to be the one where he becomes actual Tomb Raider.

>> No.7197589

>>7197560
needs a whoever-comes-after-Thad (Brad?) Redneck Rampage Leonard edit for maximum absurdity

>> No.7197590

>>7197582
2.5D is garbage

>> No.7197591

>>7197582
Whoa there, Quake is a fucking classic.

>> No.7197593

>>7197576
You're a CringeWorld tourist huh?

>> No.7197602

>>7197591
Build at it's pinnacle kicked the shit out of Quake's early and rough 3D world

>> No.7197604

>>7197083
Currently playing through Struggle: Antaresian Legacy, up to map10. There's something really charming about the new weapon sprites.

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7197605

>try to sequence break a level like a smartass
>fall through one of those fake floors monsters rise out of
>die to a clusterfuck of hell knights
well i guess that's what i deserve

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>>7197590
Fuck you.

>> No.7197617

>>7197468
SW 2013 did an arena combat-based campaign before Doom 2016.
Although of course Serious Sam and Painkiller did it before that.

>> No.7197620

>>7197562
>weapons felt more responsive and satisfying
If only. Sure, chainsword was nice, but triple-barrel shotgun alone destroyed all the goodwill I could've had for that game, and don't even get me started on allegedly semi-auto handguns.It's like FPS 101, how do you even fuck that up, especially that badly?

Also, I really loved how as long as you had gamepad connected to your PC, all button prompts will be for gamepad, and there is no way to switch it back aside from unplugging it. A fucking Bayonetta, a console port of a game in a console genre, made by company who was on the record of saying they couldn't fucking care less about PC ports, and yet as soon as you touch mouse or gamepad in that game, all button prompts will immediately switch to that control method. But noooo, I have a gamepad plugged in, let's assume it's because I'm going to play FPS game on PC with it.

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>> No.7197624

>>7197523
There was a good wad called Violence with neon visuals and synthwave music. Great level design too.

>> No.7197627

>>7197546
Fuck no. Besides the unfunny tone and boring level design, it's one of the absolute worst optimized games ive ever played.

>> No.7197631

>>7197627
All that was fixed long ago and it's fun as fuck, live a little.

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>>7197354
Her big ass is distracting when playing because I can't stop imaging playing a character almost bottomless running around blowing people up to pieces in this crying world.
Her big sweaty ass and the dev is adding more crap into the game so I'm anticipating for that too wish he would go full Hentai.

>> No.7197638

>>7197552
I'm still able to play without saving but with a lot of difficulty, I'm in the first secret stage now.
I'm just an regular player

>> No.7197646

>>7197638
I've been struggling to keep up a bit, I usually run each level like 6-7 times before i let myself save

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>>7197621
the one guy actually censored Fag himself

>> No.7197653

why must some of you go out off this board and do nothing but embarass yourselves and us yet again

>> No.7197654

>>7197653
Stupidity.

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>>7197653

>> No.7197680

>>7197653
>embarass us
Here's your answer. False-flag smear black op by troons.

>> No.7197681

>>7197636
Holy fuck, this isn't just fanart? Gotta play that mod.

>> No.7197697

>>7197585
>>7197593

Basically I spent about 20 years of my youth playing Doom on the first two difficulties - to get the hang of it, you know? I was afraid to try higher difficulties cause I would get fucked in the ass. But now I'm hitting 55 and I'm not 13 anymore, the reflexes are not what they used to be.
I spent about a week trying to get through the first level on UV and it just felt like the game is cheating against me. And now with this family health shit I'm really not in my prime videogaming years.

>> No.7197701

Quake is such a good-looking game.

>> No.7197703

>>7197681
it's not a mod

>> No.7197707

>>7197703
Huh, thought it was a Doom mod.

>> No.7197714

>>7197582
He's not so much a gamer as he's a some sort of mad scientist mega programmer, he was always much more casual about gameplay than all the other guys at iD. When he looked at Duke Nukem 3D, he wasn't looking at the cool and fun presentation, the fun gameplay, the enjoyable levels, the endearing crude attitude, no, he looked at the engine, seeing things like swinging doors killing the player, the perspective distortion when using freelook, flat textures laid down to create walkable mid air platforms, and silent teleports being used to create fake underwater and room over room effects, and he concludes "This game is held together with chewed gum. Mm."
And it is, the games are pretty fucking hacky in terms of code, and Ken Silverman, while smart, was difficult at best for devs to work with, but the resulting games are still incredibly fun and charming.

Of all the people you could look towards for opinions and input with game design and how to make the game fun, John Carmack would not be one of my top choices, because I know he will likely prioritize graphics looking good and clean over basically anything else, at least back in the 90s and 2000s.

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>>7197569
Ultra-Violence? I played through the whole game like that.

>> No.7197736

>>7197552
yeah i am not good at doom, and i was able to beat all of eviternity saveless, pistol start, uv max, except for maps 19 and 32, which desu i didn't enjoy so i didn't even try to pistol start saveless them. (i agree they are hard but i did all other maps, including 12-15, saveless and pistol start and uv max.)

i'm the guy that's been posting about scythe2 lately. scythe 2 is way harder than eviternity, and it seems many people consider scythe 2 their favorite, so i am not a good doom player.

>>7197405
something like sunlust is absolutely unreachable for me

i do think sunlust is pretty ,though.

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>>7197707
I wish, sadly the dev used UE4 so it's classified as "not retro" but really wish it was a doom wad but I guess he couldn't have any accessibility to any GzDoom tutorials like quakec so a lot of jap devs use unreal since it's easier. We'll have to wait and see if someone who isn't lazy make a doom citadel mod.

>> No.7197741

>>7197587
They haven't been overt with that idea in marketing though, and there's only been two of them so far, one that's pretty good but flawed, and one that's pretty bad. I'm hoping that the third one will do what is right.

>> No.7197742

>>7197732
It really wasn't that hard. Not sure what Anon is getting at.

>> No.7197746

>>7197563
>>7197569
wow what's up with all the generic baits in this thread

at least copy/paste some alf shit

>> No.7197747

>>7197602
I dunno about that man. You played Quake recently? Episode 3 is to die for.

>> No.7197749

>>7197742
It's a meme he's been trying to force on occasion.

>> No.7197751

>>7197680
Take your meds schizo its just me

>> No.7197752

>>7197749
That's got to be one of unfunniest jokes I've heard, then.

>> No.7197758

>>7197546
Don't they fart???

>> No.7197760

>>7197749
What is it about this board (or site?) that makes people so paranoid about trolls and baits and forced memes? I can totally see somebody (especially senior) not being able to beat Doom on UV. Though it is trivial

>> No.7197761

>>7197646
I'm allowing myself to train certain parts of the map with saves and then complete the entire stage saveless.

>> No.7197769

>>7197697
okay assuming you're not a troll

i also have played doom since it came out, and probably many others in this thread.

in doomworld you can see when people registered, many been around forever.

anyway, my reactions are worse, but i can still beat hard maps if i have a good strategy and am conscientious of enemy ai. i recommend you do the same

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>>7195726
>mfw i didn't play a single thing that came out this year

>> No.7197794

>>7197653
for the lulz, faget

>> No.7197795

>>7197760
calling people paranoid about trolls and forced memes, is in fact a meme

*twilight zone music plays*

>> No.7197796

>>7196860
You can get eduke running on 20th anniversary edition as well. There's a guide if you scroll a bit from your library menu.

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>>7197784
>mfw I only play wads I made

>> No.7197798

>>7195878
>>7196708
Damn, niggers are classy. Or is it zoomerspeak?

>> No.7197801

>>7196195
so it's a gamejam basically?

>> No.7197803

>>7196702
Every map after Dead Simple is completely fucking horrible. The only people who ever defend the garbage after it are completely blinded by nostalgia. Those first few maps shine so brightly but they're drowning in the shit of the rest of the game.

>> No.7197807

>>7197801
That's exactly what it is.

>> No.7197812

>>7195726
>Aight I hurd yall niggas been playin sum uv dat DUME and shit. The fuck yall niggas been flippin and floppin huh?

>> No.7197814

>>7196458
They should have had the flashlight in 2016 and Eternal, but you only use it in glory kill animations and never actually turn the light on.

>> No.7197817

>>7196507
Fuck BFG, Sikkmod+HD textures and Reznor sounds do everything it does but better.

>> No.7197819

>>7197797
based and dreamweaver-pilled

>> No.7197821

>>7196880
>he spent his free time watching fucking porn before the demons arrived
10/10

>> No.7197824

>>7196625
I like how it looks. Honestly, models and animations in Doom 3 are good. But that spread is just fucking laughable.

>> No.7197829

>>7196827
Dude probably uses arch or debian because it makes him feel like a programmer even though most actual programmers with jobs working in Unix use MacOS with the rest using Ubuntu.

>> No.7197842

I know Sgt Mark IV gets a lot of shit but so far I really like playing with Brutal Friends

>> No.7197846

>>7196904
>Doomfags are mentally ill.
The OP of the thread is literally fucking ALF lmao

>> No.7197851

>>7197653
he thinks he's an ebin trole
i guess some people here appreciate cringe content so let's just watch him embarrass himself a bit more

>> No.7197857

>>7197846
He's mentally ill too.

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>>7196724
>Half Life is great with double shot
It triggers me that Valve thought that SPAS-12 is double-barreled.
>>7196998
>>7197004
The weapons are good though.
>>7197014
It plays nothing like chasm, which at this point has its own poer, PanzerChasm (unfinished). Works good in DosBox too.
Amiga's Alien Breed 3D had the same GZDoom treatment, but it merely imitates the look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-F7MBMtca0

>> No.7197864

>>7197769
How old are you if I may?

>> No.7197878

>>7197560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdb8j7q3N1I
Cuss pack is shit though, sounds are too long so dead enemies keep swearing.

>> No.7197894

>>7197213
I meant in the fact that it can crank out decent damage at mid and even long range, whereas in Flaiff and Doom 3 they turn to confetti in fairly short order.

>> No.7197895

>>7197803
I enjoy Refueling Base and Chasm without any kind of irony or nostalgia.

>> No.7197905

>>7196732
Downtown stops being bad when you realize it's a vertically-stacked Containment Zone.

>> No.7197913

>>7197803
dead simple is fucking horrible you mean, and maps that follow are a wonderful relief from a map that doesn't fit into the game at all.

>> No.7197919

>>7197582
I love my Duke, but what you said is objectively false.

>> No.7197920

>>7197620
I meant more in comparison to the 2013 game, where the guns felt kind of floaty and had unsatisfying sound effects and animations. SW2's guns are an overall mixed bag, but the shotguns feel like shotguns, and some of the automatic weapons feel alright, the grenade and rocket launchers also had something going for them.
Sword animations may be somewhat nicer, though with the new and braindead enemy roster, it doesn't feel very rewarding.

>> No.7197929

>>7197468
If they go that direction, that could still be an upgrade from SW2, which inexplicably was made into a shitty knockoff of Borderlands, as if lootershooters aren't AIDS.

>> No.7197945

>>7197913
Dead Simple is fine as a brief boss encounter, before then putting you into Tricks & Traps.

>> No.7197952
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What Doom mods have the most abstract enemies?

>> No.7197953

>>7197945
bad spot for a brief boss encounter, when it's technically at the start of an episode because of the intermission. It's also the only arena styled map in either game other than phobos anomaly, and phobos anomaly is at least larger than a square.

>> No.7197956

>>7197952
Forum mods. They hate everyone with an opinion

>> No.7197958
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Why do so many fucking wads have this level? The really big brown cave with raised platforms and blood at the bottom.

>> No.7197967

>>7197956
centuries of damn
really makes you think

>> No.7197968 [DELETED] 

>>7197956
thats not a cave. Its grey, and I see no blood at the bottom
faggot

>> No.7197975

>>7197821
Nah restricted flicks like Evil Dead bro

>> No.7197979

>>7197958
Why does your gun have vines growing on it

>> No.7197981

>>7197958
thats not a cave. Its grey, and I see no blood at the bottom

>> No.7197984

>>7197653
Its pretty funny actually fuck dw

>> No.7197985

>>7197546
I can't. It runs like shit.

>> No.7197990

>>7197958
Because The Living End is a good map and Plutonia ripped it off twice.

>> No.7197991 [DELETED] 

Alf just called Doomkid a fat fuck

>> No.7197992

>>7197979
plant-based ammo good for the environment

>> No.7197996

>>7197991
screencaps? lmao

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>>7197996

>> No.7198010

Take this retarded shit to /v/ you fucking chimps.

>> No.7198025

>>7198010
LOL

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>>7197956

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>>7196117
https://github.com/RobertBeckebans/RBDOOM-3-BFG/
>Extra Ambient Pass
>Left: No extra ambient pass. Ambient is pure black. Right: Extra ambient pass with r_forceAmbient 0.2, pic related

>> No.7198057

Playthrough video of map01 of 2048 units of /vr/ is up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0C4B0vThX8

>> No.7198064

>>7198057
oh cool, nice to see you play this.

>> No.7198078

>>7198045
>game version who thought it'd lost all soul loses last additional bit of soul it didn't even know it still had

>> No.7198079

>>7198002
I like how doomworld talks shit about 4chan when a shitload of great mods, and content in general, have come out of here.
They're not entirely wrong. We're a lot more forgiving of trolling horseshit. We even have fun with it. We're not dregs though.
There's a purpose for both styles of boards. It doesn't have to be a versus thing.

>> No.7198084

>>7198057
godspeed, anon

>> No.7198095

>>7197860
>It triggers me that Valve thought that SPAS-12 is double-barreled
I doubt they thought that at all. They probably made the model first then the function later, and continued the trend as they went forward for consistency.
Although if you look at the CS reload animations it's clear that gun-nerdery wasn't nearly as big as it is now. So maybe they were just misled somehow.

>> No.7198113

>>7198057
may the Lord have mercy upon your soul

>> No.7198116

>>7198064
>>7198084
Thanks. I haven't actually played through the entire wad before because I was waiting for the final version. I did play map29 though, and I think I can handle it. Still, it probably will take me 50+ attempts.

>> No.7198137

>>7196958
Since all wads are canon, Doomguy and Samus FUCKED since the mid 90's, and the result is Johnny one seventeen and his psycopath ai waifu maid

>> No.7198183 [DELETED] 

>>7198002
Good. Fuck doomkid
>b-but he made Shillman delete his Doom Unity video hes based hes /ourguy/
No, he isn't. He's a fucking faggot

>> No.7198197

>>7196930
>>7197182
Runs at 10 FPS with an i9 and GTX 1080 on QSS. Waste of time.

>> No.7198198

>>7198057
Sweet. I was looking for any uploads on YouTube the other day but only found one with Guncaster, which was pretty disappointing.

>> No.7198231 [DELETED] 
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7198231

>REKKR? More like COCKSUKKR, does it even have an extremely limited number of Beast Boxes available at €300 + shipping with profits used to support the continued development of the Romero Archives & Museum, currently set to open in 2020 in Galway, Ireland? I don't fucking think so pussy, drink my knob dude!

>> No.7198245 [DELETED] 

>>7198231
Why do you autistic jews never know when to quit? This was never funny in the first place, but I was never a fan of kosher humour.

>> No.7198252

>>7197860
>>7198095
Whether they did or not, the primary reason was probably for gameplay functionality. You could maybe suggest that it's firing two shots rapidly in semi-auto mode, though you don't see any mode switching and the SPAS12 doesn't cycle in a mere milisecond. The grenade launcher on the MP5 doesn't reload either, it can straight up just fire ten 40mm grenades in rapid succession as if there was a self-loading action and magazine for it (which should realistically be bigger than the gun it's attached to). Realism wasn't a primary concern.

For Counter-Strike, it was a fan mod which Valve would eventually buy around version 1.5, so some of the (occasionally really goofy) errors may be from the modders or inherited from them.

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>>7198245
>getting this upset about Romeroposting
Seethe you crybaby faggot

>> No.7198263

>>7198245
Don't give the attention whores the (you)s they crave.

>> No.7198282

>>7198245
>you replied
Now hes gunna do it for at least another week.

>> No.7198292

>>7198263
>>7198282
He'd continue anyhow as he's on the mods side.

>> No.7198294

>>7198198
Turns out YouTube kinda buries the results you get, showing you a few of the ones with more views, then suggests that you may have been looking for Virtual Reality, multiple times, so it looks like it has somewhat less results than it actually does.

I found some Korean dude who streamed it a few months back. No idea what he's saying:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_Pc0KRTWZU

>> No.7198301

>>7198292
Mods like Alf because he is often doing the OPs and apparebtly contributes alot when not in his Alf persona. From what I can tell he gets warnings far more than bans.

>> No.7198303

>>7198231
Fuck the losers
This shit always gives me a smile

>> No.7198305

>>7198294
>then suggests that you may have been looking for Virtual Reality
Maybe we should drop the "of /vr/" naming scheme for future projects

>> No.7198308

>>7198305
Meh, why bend to Google?

>> No.7198321

>>7198045
I've been seeing cool shit with D3 BFG in particular lately. CST has a version that adds original ammo counts and other inconsistancies.
The problem as a whole from my perspective is each separate fan port fixes a separate issue of a big package.

>CST has QOL fixes and changes able to be tweaked
>RB has the best graphic options with way more than base BFG
>Classic BFG fixes the OG Doom functionality. Likely not needed but if you stream games through cloud it's a cool feature to have.
Plus neither will ever likely support advanced mods like phobos or classic doom 3.
Seems no D3 port including Dhewm 3 really can though.

>> No.7198342

>>7198294
>rokketo rauncha?
>oooooh
:D

>> No.7198343

>>7198305
Just search with quotes.
Or for the future we could add another qualifier. Something like "47 seconds of /vr/doom/"

>> No.7198367
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7198367

How much of Quake's reputation for damage sponge enemies do you reckon is the direct result of E1M3 being such a bitch of a map on Hard? There's so many Shamblers and Fiends and you have no real power weapons nor quad to handle them. You can cheese the teleports but that only works once you've seen it before and memorized the positioning and no new player is going to think to do that anyway.

>> No.7198369

>>7198252
>For Counter-Strike, it was a fan mod which Valve would eventually buy around version 1.5, so some of the (occasionally really goofy) errors may be from the modders or inherited from them.
Yeah, that I get. The dude who made it even said "there wasn't a lot of convenient info on the internet at the time, we sort of had to make shit up". I'm sure movies playing it loose with realism didn't help.
It would be neat to see an in-universe explanation in future games. Alyx did a good job with that imo, seeing the 1911 improve with combine tech, and the pulse rifle starting out as a 30 round smg, and ending up with an autoloading component etc.
I wouldn't make it spoken dialog or anything, but a note lying on a desk or something. Some one line easter egg jokey thing.

>> No.7198380

>>7198301
To be fair I shit post a bit too, so I get it.
There should be room to devil's advocate or just fuck around during the lulls.

>> No.7198395
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7198395

>SIGIL? More like JIZZSHILL, does it even have new enemies or bosses? REKKR has nearly two dozen new monsters dude!

>> No.7198398
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7198398

>>7195369
MIssion64 A Quake 2 64 remake for Q2 was released
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/mission-64

>> No.7198403

>>7198294
Watching him figure out Map 04's gimmick was fun.

>> No.7198407

>>7198398
Does it have that gross droning or does it have METAL like Quake 2?

>> No.7198423

I just finished Winter's Fury. Overall I enjoyed it and appreciate the recommendation. The levels themselves were gorgeous, though sometimes the lighting made it hard to tell what I was shooting at, especially the ice enemies against the ice background. The void level/dream sequence type thing was neat. My only real complaints are how many boss fights there were since they all amounted to "Shoot big thing" and that the story felt like it was going somewhere in the beginning and then at the end everyone just fucks off and nothing is explained. I'd still play it again.

>> No.7198441

What's the best way to play Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight these days?

>> No.7198445

>>7197563
>30 years
Doom only recently turned 27.

>> No.7198448
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>>7198407
it has a new soundtrack out of mayhem's stuff
also before someone asks it, its reshade on top of KMQ2

i still wish that someone here could rip the 2 unique monsters from the PS1 game, though the spider was recreated for oblivion mission pack, and make a full fledged remake of it.
dual railgun spiders would be threatening as fuck, also the Big Gun tank boss with shields and phalanx

>> No.7198478

>>7198445
Don't respond to bait.

>> No.7198485

>>7198395
fuckin weird seeing this av here

>> No.7198504

>>7195726
More than a day later and no proper responses. I think that proves my point.

>> No.7198518
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almost done

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7198527

>REKKR? More like COCKSUKKR, does it even have an extremely limited number of Beast Boxes available at €300 + shipping with profits used to support the continued development of the Romero Archives & Museum, currently set to open in 2020 in Galway, Ireland? I don't fucking think so pussy, drink my knob dude!

>> No.7198528

>>7198301
Alf hasn't updated the THREADS pastebin specifically for this reason.

>> No.7198531

>>7198528
Pastebin is kill but I did forget about it

>> No.7198537

>>7197405
I just never can get into sunlust. I've tried several times (even once with gameplay mods) and I always get bored and drop it about 10 maps in. Not saying its too hard (I never found it too difficult) but there is something about the levels that just turn me off, they look very nice, but play poorly to me, kinda like when I play doom2 and hit map13 and lose all modivation to play, but on every map.
On the flip side I completed both other 2 on uv and had a blast, even the 'bad' maps (evil's map19 or val's map31) I didn't mind at all.

>> No.7198565
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7198565

>>7195369
The genoma map from pavel is good
besides Milious stuff, this has to be the 2nd time i see good looking transparent glass floors in Q2.

>> No.7198579

>>7198057
Fucking finally someone will find a secret in my map.

>> No.7198593

>>7198579
I found em all. Nice map btw just played today.

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7198598

>>7198565
he also did a Zaero only map

>> No.7198601

>>7198441
I believe there is some kind of Voodooesque mod that allows for modern windows support and some pretty decent looking HD textures.

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7198603

>>7198598

>> No.7198628
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>> No.7198634
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7198634

Sprite Anon, can we get your expert analysis on the sprite work in arguably the best Build Engine game, Blood? I really like both the player sprites and the enemies. The weapon sprites as well.
https://www.spriters-resource.com/pc_computer/blood/

>> No.7198658

Guys i think they deleted the shitposting thread in doomworld.
It's returning me errors.

>> No.7198663

>>7198658
They did. They didn't when he said Gaydon Fagman which surprised me but once he called Doomkid a fat fuck and to go take a bath they banned him and deleted the thread

>> No.7198706

Anyone know of any longform articles or books(unlikely) about the history of FPS or even about a specific game? Looking for something comfy to read

>> No.7198709 [DELETED] 

>>7198658
It's gone. Fortunately, I saved every page in that shitshow. Sadly, I didn't capture some bits of the 4th page.
https://archive.is/h0d0r
https://archive.is/HNSTZ
https://archive.is/nUJ63
https://archive.is/poBZJ

>> No.7198731

>>7198709
You missed quite a bit, this doesn't have him shitting on Doomkid and the reactions after until he got banned for it

>> No.7198738
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7198738

>>7198634
looks bad

signed anon of sprites

>> No.7198740 [DELETED] 

>>7198738
You're not him faggot, he writes lengthy posts analyzing the sprites and knows his shit

>> No.7198741 [DELETED] 

>>7198740
goo goo

>> No.7198745

>>7198738
BASED

>> No.7198772

>>7198709
>all the people guzzling the bait
god, it's way juicier than when you guys take it and argue

>> No.7198779

>>7198741
Eat shit retard

>> No.7198782

>>7198709
>>7198731
It went up to page 5 before it got purged

>> No.7198783

>>7198779
baby want bottle?

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7198806

>>7198057
>>7195365
We need to fill out the table of demos for the megawad on DSD Archive
https://dsdarchive.com/wads/2048vr_v1_4g
https://dsdarchive.com/wads/2048vr_v1_4

We should play along with Eggman and post demos.
Here is the Guns wad, Map01 UV-Fast 3:19
https://files.catbox.moe/qx3p2w.zip
Recorded in Woof

>> No.7198830

Do you like E1M10 now?

>> No.7198841

>>7198485
Im a little disappointed the lad doesnt show up in Rekkr

>> No.7198842

>>7198709
Epic.

>> No.7198851

>>7198706
Well of course there's the Masters Of Doom book. Which also goes into Quake a bit.

>> No.7198886

>>7198841
He was made as a test to see how fast a rigged low definition thing could be feasibly made. Iirc he took like 6 hours start-to-animated?
Wasn't made for any specific project.

>> No.7198910

>>7198830
No

>> No.7198921

I generally love Skillsaw as a mapper. But man, what happened with BTSX E1 MAP10? It's not a bad map, but compared to his other stuff (including his other maps within BTSX), it just comes across as bland.

>> No.7198927

>>7198910
Imagine hating bonus content.

>> No.7198937

>>7198927
>bro just eat around the shit and pretend it isn't there!!!

>> No.7198946

>>7198937
It was 1994.

>> No.7198947

>>7198921
BTSX started in like 2009, so some maps may long predate Vanguard/Lunatic.

>> No.7198948

Is the Super Archvile (Valiant final boss) the best final boss ever in doom?

>> No.7198964

>>7195726
Shangri la, the fireblu map by willy wanker, is cool

wormwood expanded universe by ribbiks is extremely nice and has bouncy rockets in boom

2048 units of vr is extremely nice and no im not a contributor

>> No.7198985

>>7197714
interesting explanation, thanks fren

>> No.7199013

>>7198921
I find skillsaws eviternity map bland too

he's not always a slam dunk, like one third of aaliens is unfun

mapping is hard, it's understandable

>> No.7199019

>>7198948
it's super cool but too easy to kill with infighting.

eviternity final boss is janky but more of a challenge

>> No.7199021

>>7199019
He was fun but spam angel had retarded sprites

>> No.7199052
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7199052

>>7195369
Quake Xmas Jam 2020 Released!
https://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61995

>> No.7199062

>>7197714
one weird thing for me is that afaik doom had lots of stuff in the engine which wasn't just graphics, and i wonder why carmack lost interest in this later.

specifically, it seems there was a back-and-forth between game designers and programmers, resulting in things like tracers, details of monsters like pain chance and aggression, etc. the programmers had to be willing to code in lots of exceptions for arch viles, etc

not sure carmack cared about that later, but for me this tight loop between designers and programmers was a key thing that made doom good...

>> No.7199068

>>7198537
opinions differ of course, but saying "never found it too difficult" destroys the credibility of your post.

post your single segment pistol start uv max playthrough of map 28 if it's not too difficult

personally, sunlust is too difficult for me to play reasonably, but i adore the design and especially monster placement and fights. just endless creativity.

the music is cool too.

>> No.7199078

>>7199068
not him but sunlust starts busting your balls on its 13th map and beyond to be honest. the early maps are like scythe 2 in terms of difficulty. tough but manageable.

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>>7195861
After realizing that the request thread i made on the ZDoom Forums probably won't go anywhere for quite a while, i am trying to draw the STBar faces from scratch.

I don't think it looks very well so far.

>> No.7199082
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7199082

>mfw fighting Sunstar
I never played MMV and never realized how much of a banger the music is, especially Sunstar's theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqPIwof_aKw&

>> No.7199103

>>7198709
>DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN
what the hell? looks like that archive.is blocked here in EU

>> No.7199115

>>7198709
>>7199103
https://archive.vn/h0d0r

hmm, false alarm...

>> No.7199208

>>7198294
It's interesting to watch foreigners play Doom. No idea why.

>> No.7199216

>>7197952
Seconding this notion.

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7199225

>>7199079

I think her face still looks a little wonky, but it's definitely a lot better.

>> No.7199227

>>7199082
CHOWDAH

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7199229

>>7199225

Should probably post a larger screenshot.

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>>7198197
I don't understand the Quake community's obsession with QSS. Use vkQuake. Check this difference.

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7199234

>>7198197
>>7199231
So I implore you to reconsider, as Raven Keep is quite great.

>> No.7199235

>>7199052
Fuck yeah!

>> No.7199238

>>7198398
it's the complete campaign or just the first chapter?

>> No.7199241

>>7199238
It's a mission pack. Anon was jumping the gun calling it a "remake."

>> No.7199246

>>7199241
blunder of the year

>> No.7199248

>>7199231
>>7199234
>I don't understand the Quake community's obsession with QSS.
QSS has support for more particles and effects like those used in Arcane Dimensions. I believe it also has some networking improvements and extra commands. It performs more than adequately for the vast majority of Quake maps.

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>>7199248
Fair enough. The only thing I care for is the physics bugs fix, which both vkQuake and QSS have over regular QS.

>> No.7199257

>>7199231
>>7199234
I think qss has things vkquake don't, like particles for example
but yeah, there are no excuses for that performance difference

>> No.7199280

Quake, what to play after main campaign? Are the expansions worth it, go to Arcane Dimensions, some other map?

>> No.7199283

>>7199280
>Are the expansions worth it
100%, but only if you play both of them.

>> No.7199327

>>7199283
lol ok. Why only both?

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>>7199327
On their own they might seem underwhelming, if very good. But taken together as one expansion pack, it is a VERY good time, rivaling the original Quake.

>> No.7199339

>>7199280
my suggestion is
expansions -> rubicon rumble pack -> AD

>> No.7199361

>>7199331
>>7199339
Thank you

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7199384

>>7195365
>>7195369
In a strange development, Pastebin has actually un-privated many (but not all) pastes after the shitshow their filters have done. This includes the archive pastebin, although whether you guys prefer the Gdoc or Pastebin is up to you lot.

>> No.7199391

>>7195412
Yeah, the choices have been quite weird for few years. Even at least year's choice for giving Shotgun Symphony a cacoward, but only listing Doom Zero as a runner-up was weird thing to do. Shotgun Symphony isn't bad and would certainly deserve runner-up, but Doom Zero is one of the best wads I've played with unique puzzles and fun combat.

This year did something similar by giving runner-up to Gods and Guardians, and ignoring Akeldama and not even giving runner-up to it. They are both retro worship, but while Akeldama is megawad, that was pretty much loved by everyone and a modern classic, GnG was just 7 maps of Dtwid2 rejects. Strange decision.

>> No.7199392

>>7195412
By the way, I would play your project. Would you consider posting it.

t. >>7199391

>> No.7199395

>>7195467
Try playing Bastion Of Chaos and Ar Luminae without saves.

>> No.7199404

>>7196023
Akeldama

>> No.7199392,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>7198565
Feels a bit like the old MarkShan's Magic Lamber Forever or the original Progetto Genoma mappacks

>> No.7199415

>>7197083
I'm playing Deathless. It's comfy as hell.

>> No.7199420

>>7199327
and Abyss of Pandemonium

>> No.7199424

>>7197295
Well, that's a hard question. From post 2010 wads the both are my most favorite wads. Both have absolute great level design, fun and challenging combat, nice new textures, good variation with episode-based format, excellent additions to beastiary and even new sprite based end bosses. Both also took you to different place after Hell. Eviternity had even nicer textures, because of OTEX, so maybe Eviternity wins, but only very slightly.

>> No.7199432

>>7198830
No.

>> No.7199451

>>7199391

is akeldama a modern classic already really? i like it a lot but barely see anyone talk about it despite being new

>> No.7199467

>>7199391
I have a hunch they put certain authors on a blacklist. It would explain the odd choices.

>> No.7199468

>>7199013
Eh, I really liked his eviternity map. Not one of his best, but definitely not one of his weakest either.

>> No.7199485

>>7198946
Sandy, Romero, and American, were all making good levels by then, and you had stuff like Return To Phobos, Crossing Acheron, and even Aliens TC.
Sewers and Betray were not good quality for their day, they were very amateurish, low skill, and low quality, something that indeed was typical for the time, but nonetheless that doesn't make it quality, more, standards had definitely developed by the time of the XBox port.

>> No.7199487

>>7198947
Yeah thats true. I think most of his BTSX maps are generally about inline with his Vanguard/Lunatic stuff. E1 MAP31 is probably his closest released BTSX map to his Valiant/AA stuff.
I wonder what his BTSX E3 maps will be like (provided he has any).

>> No.7199492

>>7199467
They probably have a bias against anything by Doomerboards.

>> No.7199504

>>7197295
I think Valiant has the far better monster roster, and generally feels faster paced. Some of the middle levels can be a bit forgettable.
Eviternity has the better texture set, and unlike Valiant, also has a few original midis mixed with old reused stuff. Map19 and 32 are way too big for their own good.

>> No.7199509

>>7199468
that's funny, i just re-tried it, and found it pretty fun.

i think i remember why it annoyed me now, and that's my fault. i beat it saveless, but i even mean i just did "blind" runs until i beat it, and there were so many traps that were just a disaster to a blind run but are easy if you know it's coming and/or some trick, like that one fight you can teleport out of via some hidden switches iirc

>> No.7199517

>>7199062
I think part of that was worked on by John Romero and Dave D. Taylor, they were programmers and likely would learn the functionality of things to sometimes add and tweak things, John Carmack definitely would communicate with them and assist in adding and modifying functionality, and he'd obviously tell them which code pointers and references they needed.
Stuff like the actual rendering and the BSP tree stuff, the backbone of the game, is what only he could do.

>> No.7199519

>>7199013
>like one third of aaliens is unfun
I always felt AA didn't really truly start until MAP08, when you start seeing the flying saucers. The stuff before it isn't bad, but it felt kinda subpar and uninspired compared to what comes later.

>> No.7199526

>>7199519
Yep, Valiant map01 is already bigger and has more going on than maps01-07 of AA.

>> No.7199527

>>7199517
thanks for explaining, that helps me understand this.

one example i want to highlight is the bfg. i realize it went through revisions, but it's interesting that the tracer design, and all its oddities (a cone whose direction is set when fired, but always originates with the player) were possibly suggested by carmack as something that could be efficient. i could imagine that to a sane person it seemed ridiculous at the time, but the oddities of the bfg are absolutely wonderful, and for instance it is so much fun learning to master it (and things like consistent 2-bfg cyberdemon kills). so i can only imagine this was a very fruitful interaction between carmack and the others, something i think he didn't really do in later games ...

>> No.7199554

>>7195412
it also sucks that idgames is so bad

i'm not saying clicks/likes are the greatest thing, but if we actually had a reasonable UI to a list of ALL doom wads, then sometimes click/liek statistics could help find some good wads that are passed over on cacowards, boards, etc.

as it stands, i use random chance to find wads. e.g., i did not know about doom zero until bethesda.

>> No.7199563

>>7199451
I'm enjoying it but it's exhausting too

I doesn't have the classic feel of a megawad like Plutonia

>> No.7199643

>>7199527
The BFG is pretty wonky, development-wise:
>Hey, the big gun could like, uh, shoot a whole bunch of plasma balls or something!
>Ok, it shoots a salvo of 40 projectiles.
>This kind of murders the framerate though.
>Also you can't see anything for all the projectiles.
>Also it's actually kind of lame, you're really doing the same damage as with the Plasma Rifle for the given ammo.
>Well, what if it instead shoots a smart bomb or something? A big ball that explodes and then shoots enemies all around it. (Sandy claims this was his suggestion)
>Oh yeah!
>It shoots a huge projectile now, and I replaced the 40 projectile spawn functions with instead 40 hitscan calls that references the big ball when it impacts.
>Holy fuck though, it can do as much as 4000 damage, that's as many as four Barons, and that's terrible!
>We should probably tweak the values on the PRNG table.
At least I imagine it went a little something like that, 40 projectiles and 40 tracers doesn't seem like a coincidence, not with a total cost of 40 cells from the beginning.

It's a strange weapon which very much feels like they were kind of just fucking around and then accidentally stumbled upon something extremely novel and unintuitive, it's really easy to get just a little bit of its massive power for your given ammo, but once you get a feel for it and learn how it actually works, you can exploit it not just for its cataclysmic megawattage, you can also exploit its weird behavior for interesting tactics, it's even worth completely disregarding how much actual damage the melon's impact itself does, because it's completely dwarfed by all the tracers' output, hence you can do shit like stand right in front of a door and shoot it while opening it, timing it right all your tracers blow out in front of the door to immediately atomize a single powerful enemy, or you shotgun an entire platoon of bad guys, like you're a commercial wildlife harvester obliterating an entire flock of ducks with a punt gun.

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>>7199643
I wonder why wouldn't they do 360 degrees hitscan from the center or something.

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>>7199643
nice post but i'd like you to tell me more about ducks

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>>7199052
>Celephais quake pozzed mapping discord circlejerk
i rather eat my own shit, they became dumbworld 2.0.

>>7199241
its literally a remake in a certain POV.
Also its interesting how KMQ2 + lazarus is far more advanced than default Q2 3.20 for mapping, which Yamagi and Kirk despises it due to "Muh pure code" which is something that the Quake 1 community threw out of window to create AD and other cool shit

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>>7199643
The BFG becomes easier to understand when you see it as a really big shotgun with a delayed fuse.

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Still trying to get a hold of controls, and getting owned in 'im too young to die' in brutaldoom, but it's very fun.
How does one best manage having multiple weapons at the same slot? I wanna go fast but running and gunning and switching to sth i didn't want to only very slowly reload or not have ammo and die is annoying.

Also, is there akin to an areana mode rather than the normal story?