/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7197743
https://7thheaven.rocks/

If I am going to be real with you anon, even if you are playing on PC it's better to just emulate the original PSX game with your Scanline/CRT/NTSC filter of choice. It's visuals simply do not scale well to high resolutions and will look even worse on a flat panel . Visually the PSX version is the most cohesive and the music is of course going to be perfect, it's the system it was built for and you won't have to worry about stupid bullshit like mouths, song loops and crashes. Most emulators have the speed-up feature that's in the mediocre steam version. Unless you absolutely must play with ugly/useless visual mods there is no reason to touch that port.

>>7197816
Ah, that makes sense. I've looked around a bit and the only mod that appeals to me really is Remako, I've always been a fan of those AI upscaled mods like with the RE games. Though I don't know if there's anything similar for the PS1 version, I'll look into it.

>>7197825
Remako looks great. Honestly, that plus a chibi-replacement mod would pretty much fix the only real issues with it

>>7197743
only the most important mod

>>7198914
Nino's slowly but surely working on a chibi pack, model by model. He's the one that did the Nomura artwork-styled battle models mod, you'll find it in the same thing on Nexusmods as its own download. Not complete though so, obviously not the time to use it in a full playthrough.
https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy7/mods/4

>>7199220
>>7198914
Interesting, another thing I saw was the retranslation mod, at first I thought it was irrelevant but apparently it actually helps the story a lot. Still don't know if the PC version has a mod to fix the mouths and music timing though. But the PS1 version supports the retranslation so I might use it regardless, it's confusing which one to pick.

>>7199279
>see someone's retranslation mod
>things look pretty good, things are a lot more accurate but the scripting is natural and not badly written
>get to Cait Sith
>has the over the top SCOOTISH AYKCENT from Advent Children

>>7199472
lol yep, patch author did it out of spite too

>>7197743
What kind of mods are you looking for? there's a few gameplay mods that are really good, but they're for the seasoned FF7 Player that already beated the game at least once. As for "graphical enhancements" all of them look like shit, the "music remasters" are not any better either. So depends on what you are looking for.

If you are looking to play the game for the first time, I don't know what to say, unless you have a console and a CRT TV, you'll won't get the genuine FF7 experience. You could try emulate it with psxfin, duckstation or... RetroArch and Mednafen.

>>7199472
Meh, if that's the only bad thing about it I don't mind.
>>7199681
>What kind of mods are you looking for?
Generally just stuff to enhance the game in order to beat it for the first time hence why Remako and the re-translation stuck out to me. I'm generally just really confused on which way to play the game, I keep hearing different things from different people.

>>7199472
He has the Scottish accent in EVERYTHING but the original SHIT translation at this point. Fucking COPE.

>>7199825
He doesn't have it in the original japanese.

>>7199472
>>7199825
>>7199879
>oi m8, yer cracky arse be kicked. Fok off.
Lmao.
>>7199817
If you are getting confused, stop messing around with mods and emulate ps1 version. It plays decently with a software renderer and generally all ps1 emulators have good compatibilty since its the most important game in the ps1 library to get running accurately. No mods, no retranslations. Go Vanilla.

>>7199220
Looks like what Square themselves would have done back when they gave a shit on DS.

>>7199220
Basically all the remake had to be in order to be successful.

>>7200041
>>7200068
Wouldn't say it's the best, the HD textures make it probably a bit too noisy if you play the game at a lower resolution so they don't stand out as glaringly, but all things considered probably the best on-model chibi mod there is besides some needed face adjustments for Barret and the like.

>>7199879
Beacause isn't so much a retranslation as it is a rewrite by a bitter EOP weeb, Cait Sith talking like a complete retard was what happened when the other members on the Qhimm forums rejected his bright idea to replace Cait with his own character, something he justified because he claimed Cait was an "afterthought" and "made no sense in the story". So he proceeded to sabotage the character with near-intelligible dialogue and the retard still comes on here occasionally to shill his fanfic garbage.

>>7197816
Should I play the PAL version on the original hardware and a crt, or should i emulate the NTSC version

>>7197825
OGFields is better than Remako
Remako just has pushed itself much harder online through publicity
https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy7/mods/7

>>7197816
DONT FORGET
the combat in ps1 runs at 60 fps with 15 fps animations while the pc version runs 15 fps overall
this makes things like tifas minigame and the battle square slots easier on ps1
menuing in general feels better on ps1

>>7201223
It has a catchier name to boot
If it's the kind of thing you're looking for, you can instantly tell it's what you want, just from the name

>>7201185
I don't get this shit anymore, my current set up idea was Reunion (just bug fixes and retranslation) + Remako and now this shit comes with it being a fucking fanfic? The Hell is it anymore, a more accurate translation or shitty rewrite?

>>7201223
On OGField's Qhimm page it has a successor:
>http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=19204
Seems better than Remako, author included some comparisons in the comments, will be using this instead, thanks anon.
>>7201305
There's a 60FPS mod to fix this, which I'd get if I was going on PC, its included with Reunion.

>>7201470
Remako and the bugfixes can be gotten separately I think, you just don't want the all-in-one.

>>7202000
Yeah, you can choose whether you want the translation or not, and stuff like the model overhauls can be picked through the options.ini.

>>7201216
PAL version original hardware on CRT.

Even a beat up off brand CRT TV/Monitor will offer a better visual presentation than an LCD/LED ever could.

>>7204085
PAL version is 50 Hz and the screen is letterboxed which fucks the ratio a bit (like most PAL games from that era).
Just emulate the NTSC version and play on a non-huge monitor. If you can't stand sharp pixels just use any CRT filter.

>>7199220
Waiting for this to be done before I replay FF7 again. Any idea if it works with New Threat and Remako?

>7197816
This so much. Every graphics mod I've seen for this game look absolutely horrific.

>>7197743
pc version a shit
the music is all fucked up and it looks fucking weird
emulate the ps version

>>7204376
The Reunion mods fixes the music glitches

>>7204456
how did they fuck it up in the first place?
i never got that

I use The Reunion mod

>>7204464
Laziness

>>7204464
Because if I remember what I heard right, Eidos got a pre-final JP version of the game that they had to partly reverse-engineer into being on parity with the US release, which results in all kinds of weirdness throughout the port.

>>7204590
damn thats dumb
reminds me of silent hill HD
why do all these major studios trash all their source code?

who the fuck does that?

>>7204736
japanese game devs during the 90's and early 00'ss. there's a terrifying amount of lack of preservation for a large variety of reasons over there.

>>7204781
No one saved them. There's no HD versions of Diablo 2, Fallout, or Heroes 3, either.

>>7204781
i mean i guess i can kinda get it
its not like they thought theyd be remaking the same games for the next 3-4 decades. and storage was definitely at a premium back then, compared to now

still fucking stupid tho

>>7204792
You know that Ubisift recovered the source code for Heroes 3 Complete, right?

>>7204590
>Because if I remember what I heard right, Eidos got a pre-final JP version of the game that they had to partly reverse-engineer into being on parity with the US release
To this day there's Eidos weirdness of this kind, Deus Ex: Human Revolution on the PC was a great port but for some reason the Director's Cut (the only one you can readily get from Steam or GOG) was ported from the WiiU port so the textures are absolutely terrible.

>>7204815
Source code is only part of the issue though. Source code isn't going to have the high resolution original renders.