/vr/ - Retro Games

2 > 3 > 4 > 8 > R&F > 1 > 5 > 7 > 6 > Super Rockman Adventure

>>7194125
Poor little white robot.

all shit

>>7194125
4>3>5>6>>>>>>>2>>>>>>>>1

2 > 1
Then I got bored because they are kinda repetitive...

4>6>5>2>3>1

2 > 3 > 4 > 6 > 7 > Bass > 8 > 1 > 5

9 > MM&B > 3 > 11 > 2 > 7 > 4 > 8 > 10 > 6 > 5
They're all good, though

After playing through all of them recently, the only thing I can say for sure is 5 is the worst.

>>7194513
Why? I'm guessing because of the difficulty and how op the charge shot is

>>7194125
jet set willy >> piss >> shit >> megaman

>>7194125
II>I>dogshit>AIDS>the rest of them

>>7194125
3>4>2>1>5>6

Mega Man 3 was the best

>>7194125
The ones where you dont have to play as mega man (Rockman and Forte, MMX4 etc) > A Penis > All the other mega man games.

>>7194187
I exhaled air from my nose rapidly.

The Megas' History Repeating album is better than playing any of the games

>>7194125
4>3>2>1>6>5

Best to Worst
4 3 6 V 10 IV 7 III 11 9 II 2 1 Bass I 5 8

3 > 9 > 4 > 10 > 2 > 8 > 11 > 7 > 6 > 5 > 1
I grew up with a copy of 5 and have a soft spot for it, but it really is a low effort entry. Also they're all good like >>7194461 says.

>>7194125
1>2>3>4>5>6>7>8

>>7194125
4>2>5>6>3>>1

>>7194298

I second that.

>>7194686
This

2 and 9 tie for my favorites. 2nd favorite is tied with 4 and 7. I like every classic MM game to some extent, except for R&F2. That is the only one I'd say is actually bad. Even GB's version of MM2 was enjoyable to me, despite its music.

>>7194291
I've beaten a bunch of Mega man games on NES and can't even recall which ones.

>>7194125
3>2>5>6>1>7>4

ranking only the ones I've played

4 minus infinity>3>4>2>6>5>1>(GB V)

>>7196498
You can't seriously rank V below 1.

>>7194125
7>6>4>1>2>3>5

>>7194125
2=3>4=5=6>1

I would rate 9 and 10 much higher if they hadn't removed the slide and charge shot. No charge shot sucks, but no slide just isn't megaman.

>>7194125
2 > 4 > 1 > 5 > 3 = 7 > 6

3=9>6>2>7>4=10>5>1>RF>8

All others are objectively wrong.

>>7196629
Anyone rating most of the classic series below 7 and claiming to be objective sure has hot takes.

Retro only

7 > 6 > 4 > 5 > 8 > 3 > 1 > 2 > MM&B

Non-retro

7 > 11 > 6 > 4 > 5 > 8 > 3 > 9 > 10 > 1 > 2 > MM&B

Overall series

Classic > Zero > Battle Network > X (never played Star Force)

>>7194125
Megaman 1-6 > every other game on NES.
done.

>>7195438
This

>>7196619
You can slide and charge with Proto Man

gameboy V is so underrated

>>7198330
I don't think it's underrated, just underplayed. Almost everybody who plays it ranks it pretty high.

2 = 3 > 1 > unessential

5 > 7 > 1 > 2 > 9 > 6 > 3 > 10 > 8 > 4

wooo this post is so fun and interesting

>>7198443
>the most popular ones are the best

yikes

>>7196619
>no charge
right call, destroyed the main gimmick of the game

i hate charging. it just encourages you to hold B for the entire game.

>>7194125
>CAP-RX
What did they mean by this?

3 = IV (GB) > V(GB) > 7 > 9 = 10 > &Bass > 4 > 1 > 5 > 6 >III(GB) > 2 > 8 > Dr Wily's Revenge (I GB) > Super Adventure > Arcade games > &Bass 2 > II (GB) > Strategy

And yeah i am ranking 2 that low because i do understand the game's positives but i cannot stand the game's level design, despite 4-6 being rehashes, they at least had some micro changes that improved the gameplay and they had decently great level designs and WAY better music in my opinion. And i'm also ranking the gameboy megamans because they did have different level designs and in the case of IV and V, they are full with a lot of content, IV is really sizeable in content despite re-used robot masters and it has the best original tracks out of all the gameboy megaman games.

>>7194262
>>7194298
>>7194686
>>7194730
>>7194762
>>7195737
>>7195859
>>7195893
>>7195942
>>7196627
>>7199094
Could you guys tell why 4 is ranked high in your lists?

>>7194654
The level design is just terrible as well. Levels are a joke, either by way of being way too simple, or being stupid (the no-pattern blocks in crystal man's stage or that one blind jump in a wily tower where going left continues the stage and going right leads to an instant death trap)

>>7198965
>having another option ruined the games

lol no

>>7199418
it was really good

>>7199843
I find the robots masters ideas and design really silly, the BGMs are on the weak side of the series, the gameplay feels a little slower than 3 and 2 (easier) and... the charge shot. Terribly weak, basically useless

>>7199918
all the stages were really fun, all the weapons were great, and i disagree about the designs and the music.

Mega Man 1 > every other game in the series because it's the only one I beat.

>>7199918
All robot masters are silly. Yes, 2 has classic tunes that are rightfully considered the best in the series. But 4's soundtrack is consistently great, with many outstanding tracks. 4 is easier than 2 in a good way. Which is to say that 2 goes from way too easy to infuriatingly hard in the Wily Stages, whereas 4 is pretty consistent throughout. I've never heard the complaint about charge shot being too weak, most complain about it being too strong.
Also, graphically 4 is a huge step up and sets the new standard for the series (5 and 6 are also much better looking than the first 3 games).

>>7194125
1>
I haven't played anything else yet

>>7200009
>>7200042
hey alright my noir

>>7200013
honestly never really liked the graphical improvements after 3. mainly because megaman still always looks the same. he ends up sticking out like a sore thumb, and that's really bad when he's at the center of the screen at all times.

>>7200058
Changing the way Megaman looks is dangerous, I think they made the right call with keeping him classic. I don't think either 16-bit version looks right. Or rather, classic series 16-bit game, X's sprite looks great.

>>7200069
yeah, i definitely agree it's dangerous, but who knows what they could've come up with.
i guess it would have had to have taken a bigger graphical and stylistic shift to make it really worth it to change his look, though. the graphical quality only really inched forward with every game, so a sudden overhaul of megaman's appearance would have been really weird.

>>7194125
3=4>1>9>10>5>2>6> all else
If your list does not look vaguely like this then you have shit taste and are bad at video games

Godly OST Tier
2
Great Tier
4, 6, 9, 8, 5
Could be better Tier
1, 3, 7, M&B

>>7199918
>the charge shot. Terribly weak, basically useless
Weird, I found the game pretty easy to beat using the charge shot/buster only. If anything I thought it was too powerful.

>>7199041
MM4 was the only one where charging wasn't overpowered

>>7201681
I mostly agree, but why is 1 so high? Platforming in that game was so dull

>>7194513
Trying playing it as Protoman

>>7200058
They really wouldn't have much room for improvement for MM's sprite on NES.
He already uses 8-9 sprites per frame, which alone is enough that it requires sprite flickering when a couple of small enemies are on the same axis; and they're already using 2 palette slots out of 4 for him.
The PPU is usually already filled to the brim with MM as he is, so making him more detailed would mean making a consession somewhere else, like less different types of enemies at once in a given scroll.

Something like the way Bass looks in MM10 would have never been done on actual NES. Too many goddamn sprites.
Just getting Protoman to work in MM5 was a nightmare, and he "only" has 1-2 more sprites per frame than MM. And, I only got it to work because MM5 uses a dynamic tile loading system, which "automatically" loads the correct tileset for any given frame, to go around the PPU storage limits; something which no other MM game does on NES.

>>7200058
>>7203584
Another concession would have been made with the type of moves MM has. But instead of making the character more detailed, they decided to add more frames like the sliding or the 360° animation in MM5.

The reason you can't slide with the suits in MM6 is because the suits take up more sprites. Not enough space for suit+slide.

Copy pasta, hope the links are still active

There are plenty of hacks which make MM games better. Lag reduction patches, bug fixes, etc

For MM3, there is "Improvement" which gets rid of all lag, fixes a lot of glitches, and also has some other additions/changes which you may or may not like
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/992/

For Rockman 4 (doesn't work with MM4), lag reduction patch, there are two patches, one "standard" lag reduction, and another one which also changes other things like being able to switch weapons on the fly (but also gets rid of the autoscroll sections...)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/z02krkks30sogzh/Rock4Optimization_v3.zip?dl=1

For Rockman 5, but these ones also works with MM5. Lag reduction patch:
http://www.himaq5.xyz/rock5easily/archive/rock5_lite.zip
Lets you switch weapons on the fly (select, down+select, select+start):
http://www.himaq5.xyz/rock5easily/archive/rock5_weaponselect.zip

Rockman 6 (does not work with MM6):
Lag reduction patch but also speeds up the process of many things, like loading times, scrolling when entering a room, etc,
and also fixes sliding: In the original MM6, and unlike other MM games, you couldn't jump during a slide, plus there is a small delay, wait time, at the end of a slide. This fixes both:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yop86w163oh1p67/Rock6Optimization101_.zip?dl=1

Standalone version of the fixed sliding:
http://web.archive.org/web/20180919180421/http://www.geocities.jp/borokobo/zip/Rock6FixSlide2.zip

Small hacks for MM4-5-6 that makes the sound of charging the charge shot fade out:
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/5072/
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/5066/
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/5067/

Play as Protoman in MM5:
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3638/

>>7194125
1=2>3>4>5>6

>>7202891
No you are fucked. 2, 5, and 6 have way worse platfomring with way too little challenge.

>>7199041
I hate dashing. It just encourages you to hold B for the entire game.

>>7199918
>silly robot master design
You do realize that Capcom held a robot master design contest for this game, right? They were literally crowdsourced from Japanese children. Pic related was the prize for the 8 winners. I saw one of the carts on sale in Akihabara once, and it was valued at around 500000 yen.

>>7200013
>All robot masters are silly
Yeah, but Dive man, Bright man and Dust man probably are more than the rest. I must admit that Bright man's battle is cool (though easy) and Pharaoh man is the most baddass robot master from classic series
>>7202051
>>7202887
I remember that it can barely pierce thru weak enemies, maybe mets? Also I remember that charging takes a bit longer
>>7203839
Explained.
Anyway, all these points in the thread only reminds me that to like is subjective, though I will replay mm4 to see if it is that good.

>>7204983
>>7203839

>>7205005

were the reploids also fan submissions?

the best robot master from 6 was a western submission imo

>>7194125
8
5
4
3
7
6
2
1

>>7206167
>8 and 5 on top

bizarro world

>>7208717
there is objectively nothing wrong with 8

>>7209118
Jump jump slide slide. the voice-acting. the music

>>7194125

>>7194125
9 < 2 < 11 < 10 < 8 < 4 < 1 < 7 < 3 < 5 < 6

>>7204983
It isn't like 4 is massively better than the other games or anything, Megaman is very consistent. I just think it is the best overall package.

3 > 5 > 2 > 4 > 1 > 6


honestly they're all great, and you could make a convincing argument for any of them to be #1