/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7179658
=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
500ml of /vr/
BETA: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/7041037/#7043379
https://discord.gg/F968y8Wj4x

=== NEWS ===
[12-14] Pavel Mappack released for Q2
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/pavels-mappack

[12-13] Turok randomizer released by BehemothProgrammer, the maker of Tuok 2 co-op mod, on Steam Workshop

[12-12] Anon shares a Christmas map
https://www.mediafire.com/file/xicx18wmelbkyq5/xmas.wad/file

[12-10] Cacowards 2020 https://www.doomworld.com/cacowards/2020/

[12-10] HAPPY BIRTHDAY DOOM! DOOM turns 27 years old.

[12-09] DBP19: A Doomer Boards Christmas Carol
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/themes/xmas/dbp19xmas2

[12-09] Impie's Straydog is back up after being banned for wrongthink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za3KjI-szNs
http://www.mediafire.com/file/kld3fvdbm8cr0if/straydogtest.pk3/file

[12-09] KK/Altair uploaded new episode about his Doom "port" for Amiga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86nhn7KooQ8

[12-07] More stuff added to Macenwolf
https://www.moddb.com/mods/macenwolf/news/macenwolf-108-new-york-and-some-damp-prizon

[12-05] Impressive Sega Genesis port of Doom by Krikzz using the Mega EverDrive PRO
https://github.com/krikzz/doom-68k

[12-05] Quake mod Copper updated.
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/copper_v1_15.html

[12-05] Scumhead released Lycanthorn II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMbNxYOyPj8

[12-03] Gothic Library DX for Cryptic Passage, restored based on beta
http://www.blood.freeminded.de/index.php?section=maps&id=624

[12-03] Sandy does a tour of MAP16 of Doom2 but in real life
https://youtu.be/g0DVwhy3R3k [Open]

[12-03] Zero Master does Doom II MAP18 in 12 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDaakoJ15bc

[11-30] Hellevator public beta (Boom speedmapping)
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/117072

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>>7179672

>>7179658
>didn't update news post
>made new thread when we were still on page 2 like a fucking retarded newfag
>used shitty Redneck Rampage for OP
Kill yourself

Marathon fags sure are desperate for their shitty game getting recognition.

>>7179685
It's obvious Gabe and the Half-Life team took some MAJOR inspiration from Marathon.

>>7179687
keep saying it lol

>>7179672
SOUL / no soul

>>7179685
stop being jealous of other peoples posts.
just because that guy sparked a brief conversation about something you don't like doesn't mean you have to be an incendiary homosexual.

>>7179676
Quite the cringe take. No accounting for shit taste I suppose.

>>7179706
>defending Alf

>>7179708
Says the one who doesn't like Unreal.

>>7179736
it's an edit, I only know because I just watched that video today and thought it was funny the revenant walked away right as the door closed

>>7179660
This news post has not been updated.
>>7176697
>>7179538

Also >>7179658, you should have waited until the old thread reached page 8 before making a new thread. /vr/ is not a fast moving board like /vg/.

>>7178985
>MarathonCHAD Errant Signal btfos Half-Life fags in his Children of Doom series
>much wailing and gnashing of teeth commences
Lmao

>>7179773
>watching Errant Signal
oh no no no no no no

>>7179779
>Can only shitpost about previous bad takes instead of refuting proof at 12:00
https://youtu.be/_3ZCuXJ7-8s

>>7179792
no one takes you seriously lol

>>7179658
Reposting my MIDI collection, for those of you who missed it and are interested: https://www.mediafire.com/file/alma3w2talfnu9y/MIDIs.zip/file

Make sure to check the readme.

>>7179798
>literally cannot refute any points presented
Why are Halflife fans like this?

imagine being this obsessed

Goddammit. Can someone compile a proper newspost from the last thread so we can copy from that one directly for the next thread?

Why does he larp so much?

>>7179757
>Doom Zero added to the port
Oh shit nice, it certainly deserved the recognition.

Looks like the old thread had some posts removed and it's been bumped again. I suggest we abandon this thread and wait for the old one to reach page 8.

Has anyone actually completed Technicolor Antichrist and Bastion Of Chaos? I can complete Ribbiks' wads without it being too painful, but I've tried these two and they are way too hard for me. I can't complete them even with saving. I'm just wondering that is this trying pointless. Are these wads made by modders, who don't even try to test that is this beatable or do they just make spammy encounters that are maximum hard and just think that "maybe 0.1% can beat this some day, and it's not my problem".

>>7179757
I'm actually loving Bethesda much more than Doomworld right now. Bethesda seems to do more service to fans and modders of old school gameplay, while Cacowards seems to centered on slaughter and Gzdoom.

>>7179932
>bethesda hires kinsie to make an official doom game out of metadoom's concept before metadoom gets a cacoward

>>7179932
Is their port vanilla or limit-removing?

>>7179957
Raised limits, recently got dehacked support.

>>7179932
Easy now, all they do is package some pre-existing stuff for a commercial product, you actually wanna praise someone, praise Sponge and his pals for the work they actually do on the port.

>>7179957
Vanilla with raised static limits, it also uses something called DMAPINFO to handle the curated megawads, I assume it has some similarities to GzDoom/Eternity's MAPINFO.

>>7179974
>all they do is package some pre-existing stuff for a commercial product
Maybe one day they'll buy my wad and then I'll know I had it made.

>>7179987
They don't pay you any money as far as I know.

>>7180002
Well, this sucks. Now my parents will never accept me.

Rate my massive map. Scythe2.wad required for textures.

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/d-f/dark2

>>7180014
PrBoom+ crashed and gzDoom just lags horribly. Guess I won't be rating this one.

>>7180056
PrBoom+ doesn't crash for me, but the stock Scythe 2 map loads instead of whatever map this anon replaced.

>>7180067
It's supposed to be MAP28.

>>7180082
The text file says it replaces Map 01, but okay.

>>7180085
I had to check in editor. This is when it crashed.

>>7180085
Alright, now that I loaded warped to the correct map, I can also confirm it crashes PrBoom+.

Guess the old thread died early, so what are some good Duke campaigns? The official addons sucked ass, need some good mapsets.

>>7180137
I always loved the Aquatic edition. It had two new episodes (other set in underwater bases), shitloads of new monsters, new bosses, and even new ending cinematics.

Another good one is Duke Nukem Forever mod. It's Duke Nukem Forever recreated in Duke 3d. It has all stuff that the 90s trailers promised. New monsters, new guns, driveable vehicles.

Why did jannies delete posts talking about Half Life potentially ripping off Marathon? Errant Signal made some decent comparisons and showed quite a few similarities that seem like more than coincidence.

Reposting this for more opinions, since it was at like 4 am last night in last thread when I did:
So I was just reading the manual to Heretic and I see this in the story:
>"Alone, without weapons, the surviving Sidhe would surely perish at the hands of the Order of the Triad."

So he wasn't full of shit then? They really are in the same universe?

Rise of the Triad's release date: December 21, 1994

Heretic's release date: December 23, 1994

El Oscuro's organization is called the Order of the Triad in RoTT. And the symbols for both are very similar (ROTT Triad's is lower left and Heretics is bottom right) which is why someone had asked Romero this in the first place. We know Romero was working closely with Raven during the development of Heretic and he was also helping/consulting and going to the offices to see Tom when RoTT was being made around the same time.

So are they really the same universe?

>>7179658
Apart from Biotech is Godzilla, what other DBP projects are actually worth a fuck?

I've seen many of them be really big empty maps that don't really have any interesting encounters to them, other than "ooo we're using textures/sprites from other games". It seems to suffer a lot from having very mediocre mappers included in them.

Anyone played Eviternity?
>MAP 19
>MAP 32

>>7180264
Eviternity MAP19 is fucking terrible. Absolutely atrocious. My only guess is that the deadline snuck up on them and they did not have time to cut it into two or scrap it all together.

I'm working on a total conversion for GZDoom, and i figured i may as well post a early build here.

There are no maps or enemies yet, so you should probably use this with a map pack.

Here's the link:

https://www105.zippyshare.com/v/DDztCLot/file.html

>>7180263
I loved Dungeons & Demons and the Space Balls one. I haven't finished any others yet.

Here's map05 of DBP20, my favorite so far:
https://youtu.be/f6MAv_BLK7w

I actually didn't like Biotech; the theme was excellent, but I got lost too much in the levels. I started DBP01 and it's really good so far, albeit pretty difficult compared to their newer stuff. I got stuck on map03 but the level is still super good. I decided to only play one thing at a time from now on instead of bouncing around so I haven't gone back yet as I'm still finishing Valiant


Friendly reminder that DBP07 and DBP19 are Christmas-themed, pic related

>that feel when you're blasting Low Guards with the infinite ammo MP40 in Rise of the Triad

>>7180264
i'm mid play through, stopped at map11? last night

>"The issue with Half-Life for me is that I was involved in a much higher percentage of the decisions about the games, so it's hard for me to look at them as anything other than a series of things I regret," Newell wrote."Particularly the decision to lean so heavily into our inspiration from Bungie's Marathon trilogy... maybe to the point of being derivative. We were all really big fans and it had a tremendous impact on us at the time"

>>7180389
Gaybe Newell

>>7180264
Yes. One of best wads I've played. Had to finish it few days from starting it. Same thing happened with Valiant. Both absolutely awesome wads.

>>7180270
I actually liked map19. It was long as hell, but never felt boring. It stayed fun until the end, and wasn't confusing map either. You always knew where you were going.

Time to play Doom on Nightmare for the first time.
Wish me luck.

>>7180397
Tim Sweeney VS Gabe Newell VS John Carmack.

Bare Knuckle Brawl

Who wins?

>>7180425
Carmack because he actually knows how to fight

>>7180425
Carmack snap both of their spines with the power of his jimmy neutron brain

>>7180425

>>7180425
Carmack has known judo for decades and has forearms as big as your legs.

>>7180263
Cyb's Freaky Colonoscopy is fantastic

>>7180474
That's a nice HUD there anon, where's it from?

>>7180471
>forearms as big as your legs.

>>7180480
prboom+ default alternate hud #5. i am using dsda.

>>7180474
Hey boy, what's them blue Heavy Weapons dudes?

>>7180425
Tim Sweeney has a whole company of PLA Special Forces on call 24/7 by authority of Xi Jinping himself for any trouble he might find himself in. Carmack and Gaben are fucked.

>>7180485
the green berets fire heavy projectile bullets like the chain arachnos. this is take 2 because I died in the archvile arena

>>7180495
from take 1

>>7180498
died again. yellow key is here, it's easiest to get to from the get go. behind you is a berserk pack to reheal you because this key releases two abaddons, which fire a projectile bola thing and have a wave dash

>>7180495
Oh, they're green. And they even have little berets, how fun. What mod is this?

>>7180516
What the hell, man? It's Eviternity. Map pack from last year, which had many custom enemies in it. One those map packs, that was pretty much loved and played by everyone. Where have you been all this time?

Total brainlet here: I am really wanting to play vanilla Doom 1/2 with the Project Brutality monster pack that was posted in a recent thread here:
https://projectbrutality.com/archive/index.php/s/rWtWBYdHX8fmWLz?path=%2FCommunity%20Addons%2FVarious

What would be the easiest way for me to do this? I have the Doom 1 and 2 wads, this file and GZDoom

>>7180513
>>7180516
eviternity, map11 first sighting. blue key is here, through 2 revenants and a mancubus. there's a backpack secret here which makes it the obvious move. note the time for 2 keys

>>7180525
time passes by so much quicker than you would think

>>7180525
I'm so fucking far behind on wads man it's not even funny. I am familiar with the map pack itself but I haven't played it. In fact I haven't even been playing alot of Doom lately, been Blood and SW mostly

>>7180537
>ice platforming.
red key re

>>7180546
area. whoops

>>7180425
True Chads Choose Carmack
TCCC™

>>7180417
Bros i missed the secret level
Should i start again?

>>7180495
These guys were better enemies in Struggle, since your own weapons were buffed to match. They feel a bit overtuned when you're using stock weapons in Eviternity.

>>7180530
I tried just dragging that .pk3 monster pack onto GZDoom and using Ultimate Doom as the wad but I got this error:
Script error, "Project Brutality Monsters Standalone.pk3:decorate/misc/explosives.dec" line 313:
Expected ')', got ','.

>>7180562
It worked doing it that way with zDoom but got an error that cause nosound

>>7180560
Not as bad as chaingunners. At least you can dodge plasma bolts

Yo yo yo my weiner is big but my balls are small
Marathon is the worst FPS of them all

>>7180541
Definitely play it, if you play a one wad. It's really good. Almost like a completely new Doom game (in a good way).

>>7180537
Yea, you are right. I wish I could be less autistic about Doom myself.

>>7180270
I like map19, but it really should have been map20. It totally breaks the pacing of the episode.

>>7180591
I might not remember anymore, but did map 20 even have that epic slaughter battle at the end like other episodes?

>>7180569
Nevermind I just needed a newer version of GZDoom

>>7180580
Are there alot of custom assets? Any custom weapons?

If you guys could recommend one weapons pack, what would it be? Looking for one that is not too over the top and is versatile enough to work with a variety of other wads

I need some help bugtesting a Quake map. You will need the mod Quoth if you want to partake. No pay, and I gave all my hotpockets to the janis
https://www.quaddicted.com/webarchive/kell.quaddicted.com/quoth/quoth.zip

Here is the map.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/cq35tggp5645fuh/Serious_Ranger.bsp/

In the hundreds of times I've tested this map, twice in the last 20 minutes have I found an instance of enemies getting stuck within each other. That worried me, so I want to cast a wider net. It's a bug I'm not too keen on ironing out if those two instances are the only ones that will ever be. Many thanks in advance.
-Map has no ending as it is unfinished
-Balanced around Nightmare
-The "secrets" are completely unfinished. If you find them, please ignore them.

>>7180576
grunty pls go

>>7180576
Are you trying to trigger him?
He doesn't care about the game just shitpost.

>>7180602
Final Doomer
Babel if you're feeling randy

>>7180602
>Are there alot of custom assets? Any custom weapons?
There's faster pistol, but that's about. It's prboom+ wad so it can't add new weapons without replacing ones, just new monsters. All textures are new (otex pack), which are used in 6 different episodes, which all look different from each other (gothic, techbase, snow, brutalism, hell, heaven).

>If you guys could recommend one weapons pack, what would it be? Looking for one that is not too over the top and is versatile enough to work with a variety of other wads
Supercharge is quite fun. It changes the monsters too. It's included integrated with Paradise, a level pack by Tango.

Can I get some help with Arcane Dimensions? Playing 1.8 finally, and once I pick up the super nailgun scroll weapon select skips over the standard nailgun. It doesn't do that with the shotgun/double/triple barrel shotgun, and it didn't do it before 1.8. Any clues how to fix it so I can scroll select the standard nailgun?

>>7180560
>>7180573
they're honestly trivial although it's been *one* level

>>7180628
Are you running 1.81? Check the quake.rc within the AD folder, and the AD readme/documentation. Should be a parameter for that, like how impulse 130 disables shotgun pellets. On my 1.81 the nailguns don't do that.

>>7180637
I actually read the readme for 1.8 patch 1 and there's an impulse that turns skip nailgun on and off. How do I use that? Got to console and type "impulse 168"?

>>7180651
That should do it. No need for quotes in that instance

>>7180658
That did it, thanks.

>>7180667
>>7180631

Bored, anon? Want to play a kick ass Doom TC for true CHADs? Look no further my friend:
https://www.moddb.com/mods/return-of-the-triad

>>7180307
May as well post a screenshot.

>>7180681
judge doom?

>>7180693
No, it doesn't really have anything to do with Judge Doom.

>>7179692
Imagine being this retarded

>>7180389
source?

with smear

without smear

>>7180356
the fuck is this Semitic nonsense

>>7180737
cursed image

>>7180490
>PLA Special Forces
So Carmack will not face any kind of resistance to talk about?

>>7180731
Fire and the staining on the walls looks better than the pixelshit one

>>7180721
Anon...

>>7180721
Interview with IGN from 2017.

>>7180731
Filters are ass, no matter what

>>7180739
It's a fun movie.

>>7180737
This. No, if I could find a way to make bloom and glow "pixelated", not with color banding, actually stepped post bloom/glow to fit with the unfiltered pixel look.

>>7180739
Yeah yeah we know it hurts your feelings because it shows Hitler getting shot.

In fact I posted it because that specific feeling of just blasting rounds infinite rounds from an MP40 till the body is meat is portrayed really well here. I would've posted it if it were Nazis gunning down Jews like this too, it just didn't happen to be.

It's from a Tarantino film, Inglorious Basterds

>>7180772
I don't watch Hymieweird nonsense for 12 yo kids

>>7180751
He will take down every man unarmed while giving a Q&A on VR technology

>>7180779
>till the body is meat
won't happen, caliber way too small
t. former BW lance corporal

>>7180787
Triggered.

>>7180576
based

>>7180808
Wouldn't it eventually happen through sheer volume of fire? Even with a small caliber enough of it would eventually mulch flesh and bone.

Out of curiosity what's the opinion around here of Doom Eternal?

>>7180825
Not retro lol

>>7180817
Yes.

>>7180817
Yeah, that guy is retarded. It was specifically said "infinite rounds". They should've trained him to read.

>>7180779
Semitic violence porn

>>7180825
Meh. Feels like a bloated mod of Doom 4, stacked too much shit on top, tried too hard to fix the balance issues of 4 and went off kilter and made a lot of things too restrictive and no fun allowed. Story is dumb, too drawn out with the weird Doomguy worship, Marauders are obnoxious when the game was released, hear tell they're toned back. Melee is useless, and I'm still mad about how shitty the crucible is.
Played it once, enjoyed it well enough, I don't ever want to replay it again though.

>>7180817
No. You can't send that much ammo downrange in realistic time let alone carry it.

>>7180829
>>7180830
You have to be 18 or older to post here, kid.

>No AAA-megawad since Eviternity in 2018
What are these slackers doing? Where is BTSX E3 or at least TNT 2? I remember when we had Valiant and Sunlust in the same year.

>>7180843
i like how the entire idea of overhyping doomguy was originally an ironic meme from 4chan, before either brutal doom or screwattack led to people take it seriously and now we have a reboot that made it official, we got more people getting into fights with other fanbases over the superiority about doomguy and why he could beat master chief/samus/dante/sephiroth/40k marines according to clickbait lore videos
it's like someone thinking lasagna cat are garfield fan videos, when they couldn't be more obvious about shitting over jim davis
pic related is just "mario is high off shrooms" for doom
not even the doom comic was like this and neither was how anyone say doomguy up until 2010

>>7180865
I never treated it as an ironic thing, I liked the idea of a man being too pissed off and determined to just keel over and let hell beat him, it was a sheer willpower thing.
But then idiots took it too far and made him some weird godlike mary sue guy, boring.

>>7180865
>>7180872
>meant to parody power level nerds before doom became this but seriously
>possibly a joke meant to rival "i think halo is a cool guy eh kills aliens and doesn't afraid of anything"
>refers to jrpg protagonists as "faggots" even though new doom is more popular with japanese artists that draw doomguy with isabelle on pixiv
>originates from 4chan, yet the new games are more popular with reddit
>doomguy was said to be a spiritual predecessor to master chief before he copied chief visually
>whole point is that doomguy "just did it with guns" when they new games introduce convoluted lore about his magic powers and shit
>this and death battle probably inspired the new games more than the doom comic
>this copypasta could have been easily about any other videogame character
the new doom games are good in spite of being related to doom, not because of it
the reality is that doom never really needed a reboot, when the fanbase already figured out its "universe" and anything that could/should/would have been done normally was already done by them

>>7180861
Last year had Doom Zero, and this year had Akeldama. I'm waiting BTSX E3 madly too. Hope it comes at 2021.

>>7180865
>was originally an ironic meme
It was literally never ironic.
>>7180880
It was never a parody wtf is this revisionist bullshit

>>7180897
>It was never a parody wtf is this revisionist bullshit
New boys thinking they know better.

>>7180851
>kid
I CANT BELIEVE YOU WOULD SAY SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO DEMEAN ME AS THOUGH I WERE SOME COMMON RAGAMUFFIN. YOU'RE SO OUT OF LINE YOU SHOULD BE CHARGE WITH A CRIME. I HATE YOU.

>>7180248
What is the bottom-right symbol from? The only symbol used in-game is the trident of the serpent riders.

>>7180825
Fucking based, mostly liked around here except for a few old good new bad fags like >>7180843 Some had issues with him finally speaking or the Doom Slayer being the original Doomguy. But I love it. Had a lot of trouble connecting with Doom 4 simply because it didn't seem to be the Doomguy I have grown so fond of over the decades. I was like "ugh Doomslayer yeah yeah, reimaging, yada yada yawn". When I saw that scene in Eternal that revealed he was the same marine as in 1 and 2 and having him speak for the first time (unnecessary but I personally love the way they did it, elevating the infamous Doom comic from meme to design document and then to gospel. Alot of people say its corny but if you're gonna have Doomguy talk, using those lines was really the only way to do it in a way that wasn't totally cringe despite how cringe some may find the comic) had me literally cheering, I went back and played Doom 4 with a whole new perspective and loved it.

The gameplay is fast and fun and everything from the enemies to the general feel of combat is a love letter to Doom II. I have to play with the Classic skin though, the Doom Slayer armor is cringe.

For previous discussions see:
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/Doom%20eternal/

>>7180137
Downtown Journey was good recently. Total Meltdown Plug n Pray is worth playing. Secrets of the Acropolis is righteous. Penthouse Paradise if you haven't. Also none of the official expansions suck ass, plebeian.

>>7180153
Hadn't heard of Aquatic Edition. Thanks. Double based for the DNF 2013 mention.

>>7180880
>when they new games introduce convoluted lore about his magic powers and shit
This shit i hate alot.

>>7180921
Thats from the Order of the Triad from Venture Bros. Lol. Anon must've gotten them mixed up. Still he has good points, I think it's canon.

>>7180931
I never said new bad, (you) baiting little shit. Take my (you) and I hope you get your dick caught in your zipper.

>>7180931
The thing about the comic is that its entire legacy was originally being shat on, before people started to like it ironically
It was never really something as important as Carmack releasing the source code or something
It's like a Sonic game making Sanic an actual character or a Resident Evil title where Chris forces Leon to fuck Claire
It's less like natural evolution and more like scientists interfering with a species' DNA to make a very calculated evolution
If they wanted to adopt memes, they could have at least go beyong the surface and reference NEDM or the "heheee" Skulltag taunt, specially if you really want to attract old fans as much as new fans, for a series where the fanbase is so important, from coining the term "Doomguy" to years of source ports, mods, Doom 64 on PC and even fighting against Wikia
That "we treat Doom like we owned it" attitude not really present with new fans too familiar with modern geek/nerd culture, making boomers look like ancoms in comparison

>>7180851
>infinite ammo
>realistic time
It's like your autism is making you willfully ignore the actual question. Assume you've got a 9mm Gatling gun with an electric motor and some giant shipping crate of linked belts for a million or so rounds, you could absolutely destroy a body in time.

>>7180962
Alternatively if that's too abstract for his dumb ass, a metal storm platform loaded in 9 mil would probably shred a human into pieces.

>>7180678
Looks AAAAASSSSS

>>7180936
>Also none of the official expansions suck ass, plebeian.
Not even Duke!Zone 2 and Duke Xtreme?

I love them, because got Kill-A-Ton Collection as kid, and played shit out of all games and expansions in it. Nostalgia is a strong feeling.

>>7180970
It's alot of fun actually.

>>7180389
Second half of the post fake as shit

>>7180982
>playing as a literal tranny
Cringe

>>7180861
Elementalism releases at 2022. We also get demo at 2021.

>>7180851
Dude, the MP40 has infinite ammo in Rise of the Triad. There is no reloading. It fires forever. It's magic because it's a fucking video game. This is literally what anon was equating the clip with, not real life. In that scenario yes you absolutely could.

>>7180998
Why do all these have such shitty names?

>>7181061
What's your wad's name?

>>7180861
I'd prefer Square Ep 3, but that's like a whole new game.

>>7180861
2048 Units of /vr/ came out this year.

>>7181062
Axiom
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/a-c/axiom

>>7180678
This TC was made by the guys who went on to make Amid Evil.

Well finally beat Episode 1 on Nightmare.
It wasn't that hard.

>>7181096
No it's really not. The only parts of Doom or Doom II that gave me any problems on Nightmare were the final episodes and only really Doom II

>>7181081
Generic. 2008. Thinks he can talk shit about contemporary wads. Yawn.

>>7181093
wait, elzee did Amid Evil? nice

>>7181113
Yep, they have a huge banner for it on the elzee page for Return

>>7181061
Elementalism has episodes based on elements, so I say it's fitting.

>>7181125
Could still me more interesting than that. It's bland as fuck.

>>7181125
Herald of the Elements
Elemental Curse
Vile Elements

>>7180948
That doesn't happen unless you have a gross anteater dick.

Playthrough video of map01 of DBP7 is up. Decided to record this short (only 5 levels), comfy Christmas-themed wad before moving to the next big megawad on the list.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIWPVREG1RM

>>7180825
Depends on how much you love Doom2016.
Wait for it to be on sale. Or considering they are going the season pass route, the complete "Rip and Tear™" edition in a year or so.

>>7181202
reaching a point where saves become necessary

>>7180825
It's very pretty and alright with everything else. The most I give it credit for is making me give linear shooters more of a chance and discovering how fucking amazing the Serious Sam games are.
>>7181249
>reaching a point where saves become necessary
That's a brutal feel. I'm looking forward to going through with this once I'm done with BTSX1.

>>7181105
The wads are fine, the NAMES are shitty

>>7180982
did that mod get updated recently?
also,what the fuck is that lighting?

>>7181256
some of the encounters require a good chunk of ability to manage aggro and area first-time around and even then sometimes you get closed down on before you can position away from abaddons or horned demons. there's an early archvile in this level that's a bit nasty

>>7181274
alright now this is podracing

Sprite Anon, I would love to resd you analysis of the sprite art in Rebel Moon Rising, an FPS using a proprietary engine released by Fenris Wolf Software in 1997. Unfortunately I can't find all the sprites, ripping them it is being discussed in this thread:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=21672

>>7181081
I highly doubt you're Didy. But I must thank him for his many well-designed wads.

Lmao

>>7181315
>I highly doubt you're Didy.
The one and only. And thank you, surprised any of you guys know my stuff.

>>7181165
Yes it does, seen it happen.

>>7181319
For anyone who missed it, a YouTuber named ContraWolf did a review of Quake 1-4 in one video and started with saying "If you're the type of person who puts these games on a pedestal, close the video now"
https://youtu.be/8NlyUDlIhEA [Open]

I got to where he said "The lightning gun is the only one that gets any points for originality and is the only weapon you can consistently hit enemies with" in Quake 1 before I raged. Spoiler: He says Quake is mediocre and did nothing revolutionary, Quake 2 is shit, Sonic Mayhem's soundtrack (literally best part of the game) is bad and should be turned off and the only good game in the series is Quake 4

>>7181325

Not the guy you're replying to, but if it's actually you, thank you, your shit rocks, and I wish I could buy you 10 blowjobs from the finest Thai hookers

>>7181334
Literally who? It's like that dumbass kid that made a video about Serious Sam

>>7180137
Duke Caribbean is extremely good.

>>7180936
>Also none of the official expansions suck ass
Nuclear Winter is extremely bad.

>>7181340
Not sure but people raged and shit on him in the comments of the video in the last thread, probably because he sounds so smug and matter of fact when he says this shit.

>>7181340
>dumbass kid that made a video about Serious Sam
Who, FrameRater? Kek

>>7181341
Nuclear Winter is the best Duke expansion, get better taste scrub. Or are you just a zoomer regurigating what Civvie says?

>>7181345
Lel, but no, FR is a sperg, that one was some teen

>>7181343
Oh god, yeah, he has annoying tone when he talks. Like his opinion actually matters lmao

>>7181349
I respect your opinion, anon, but it seriously sucks balls and you are just baiting if you are calling it "the best" when Caribbean exists.

>>7181165
>cutfag cope

>>7181349
No, I played it many, MANY years before Civvie had a channel, I thought "Jesus Christ, these levels are fucking hot garbage, I never want to play them ever again."

Doom Zero has some tough fucking maps, but I really appreciate how short they are. I just finished the Tricks & Traps reimagining and loved it. Even if it did have a few too many Barons for my liking.

>>7181349
>NUH-UH, [insert e-celeb here] SAID IT WAS BAD, THAT MEANS YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!

>You just like Super Castlevania because AVGN said so!
>You just hate Super Castlevania because Egoraptor said so!
Reminder that this should be a bannable offense.

Today it's the birthday of the full registered version of Doom.
Say something nice about Episode 2 and 3.

>>7181361

there are still people in these thread that think Serious Sam is a bad game because cv-11 didn't give it a glowing positive review

>>7181361
It's fucking good, you both clearly just got filtered.

>>7180936
The meme weapons were funny for like 2 levels in Caribbean, but the feedback on them was absolutely awful once the meme wore off. The level design was ok-ish, certainly not the worst. I really wanted to like DC, and some of the levels were pretty neat in terms of scale, but the level design from a gameplay standpoint was awful. Bad ammo balancing, extremely missable level progression, the smithsonian was like a masterclass in how to make shit map progression. As for Winter, well, I don't think anyone can defend that.

Compared to the 3+1 core episodes, they were all trash. They all had novelties going for them, but not enough to warrant replaying. I'll check out the other ones you listed as well though, so thanks for the suggestions.

>>7181367
I like E2 and E3 better than E1.

>>7181369
And there's apparently people in this thread who think Nuclear Winter isn't somehow substandard due to clinging to some childhood nostalgia.

>>7181371
It's really not, the levels are ugly, the layouts are poor and unintuitive, and progression is unclear, along with bullshit like blowing you up out of nowhere with surprise spawning tripmines.

>>7181373
>The meme weapons were funny for like 2 levels in Caribbean, but the feedback on them was absolutely awful once the meme wore off.
They handle *exactly* the same as the original weapons, they are just reskins, their performance never once felt weak because the performance was consistently the same.

>>7181367
They're both really inferior to Episode 1. The Cyberdemon battle at the end of E2 is probably the most iconic Doom boss fight and The Spider Mastermind in E3 is cool, that's about it.

>>7181387
Nah, E1 has nothing like E2M2, E2M6, or E2M7, E2 blows E1 out of the water on that alone.

>>7181392
Drink my knob

>>7181406
Wash your penis.

>>7181371
The first two levels are just bad reskins of E1M1 and E1M2 but in reverse, with almost all the exact same secrets (seeing some of the changes were kinda neat though, admittedly.) On the note of secrets though, there were barely any in the whole campaign, most were in the aforementioned 2 levels. The elves were extremely lazy enemies, and didn't even have pain or death sounds (which is a shame, because a "elven feminist militia" was a pretty funny concept. I was hoping they would have been at least somewhat like the female warriors from SW or something instead of just reskins of the pigcops and enforcers (to go alongside the actual reskins of the pigcops and enforcers, ofc)
I won't fault the addons for trying to be different, it just turns out that different isn't always good.

>>7181381
The performance is the same, yes, but the feedback is considerably weaker. I understand that the changes were purely cosmetic, but how a weapon feels and sounds is just as important as how they perform.

Next you will defend the FormGen mission packs.

>>7181424
They're based.

>>7181428
Based on shit.

>>7181367
I like episodes 2 and 3 more than episode 1, but Doom 1 and every Doom 1 based wad always feels incomplete to me without Doom II enemies. I'd love to figure how I could mod the original 3 episodes myself to contain Doom II enemies, as well as the ssg.

>>7181432
The sprite work is more dynamic and pops more. Honestly the weapons weren't much to look at to begin with, just a lighter shade of blue.

>>7181436
Well, with UMAPINFO you could do just that. DSDA Doom is a fork of PrBoom+ which supports it, and I think Crispy Doom also supports it.
Basically, just make the maps in Doom 2 and then define them as a self-contained episode (or multiple, with as many secret levels as you want), with the end screen and text crawl that you want, I it should even let you define your own intermission map.

>>7181446
Eh, I could look at that and call it subjective, but the level design is an atrocity.

>>7180825
It's alright. On it's own it's a fine fps, but it doesn't really provide the kind of experience you'd be looking for if you play Doom games for the sense of exploration. Also a decent amount of the the writing and general tone felt kinda stupid, even for Doom. Constantly presenting Doomguy as some kind of unstoppable god gets old quick. Even 2016 handled this better by having Hayden openly treat Doomguy as nothing more than a tool for his own plans.

I also found it odd that the developers seemed to be fine with making the combat unforgivably difficult in some instances, while at the same time attempt to regularly hold the player's hand regarding map design. People are smart enough to adapt to a game's intended combat loop, but are too stupid to handle non-linear progression? Weird.

>>7181452
>Basically, just make the maps in Doom 2
Fuck. Couldn't just import them into Doom 2 Builder or something?

>>7181472
I don't understand your complaint, I'm telling you UMAPINFO would let you add all of the things specific to Doom 1, like episodes, intermission maps, text crawls, and an end screen.
Trying to cram a bunch of Doom 2 stuff into Doom 1 would just be doing it backwards and creating more work for yourself.

>>7181489
You don't understand the depths of pic related.
>I don't understand your complaint
>just make the maps in Doom 2
>I'm telling you UMAPINFO[...]
These. I don't know how to start with UMAPINFO, and I wouldn't know the first thing about remaking a Doom 1 map in Doom 2

>>7181468
>tone felt kinda stupid, even for Doom. Constantly presenting Doomguy as some kind of unstoppable god
He is only like that because of the Divinity Machine, he was literally about to die and babbling mad out of his mind when they found him an unknown amount of time after the events of Doom 64

ShadowCaster has a mighty foot.

>>7181472
I think you're confused, use any map editor you want, that's irrelevant to using UMAPINFO. It's just a lump you provide with the map files which let you define things such as:
>level names
>level order
>par times
>what sky to use
>what music to use
>which level it exits to
>which secret level, if any, it exits to
>any intermission text you want to add and write
>if a bunch of maps are grouped into an episode
>if you want to have multiple episodes
>if it has the Dead Simple or Icon Of Sin specials
>your intermission pic
>your endpic
>your intermission map screen, if you want one
And then this lump is detected and read by GzDoom, Eternity, DSDADoom, and Crispy Doom, and it'll arrange accordingly. Strings which less advanced ports aren't coded to make use of will just be skipped, so added stuff like colored fogs and what not will load for GzDoom, but not Crispy Doom.

>>7181497
Don't worry, I'm also a caveman, but together we could make a half decent thinking adult making Doom stuff.

>>7181510
I just need to know how to do this stuff
>Basically, just make the maps in Doom 2 and then define them as a self-contained episode (or multiple, with as many secret levels as you want), with the end screen and text crawl that you want, I it should even let you define your own intermission map.
And I'll gladly Doom II-ify Doom 1.

>>7181515
>And I'll gladly Doom II-ify Doom 1.
I think you should check if someone has done it first, before you commit

>>7181338
Thanks! I am really glad you like my wads.

>>7181498
I played the game, anon, I know why his character is like that.
My point is that the demons treating him like some kind of boogeyman, the people on earth acting like he's a literal superhero, the UAC with their "Slayer threat level" shit, the Night Sentinel/Kahn thing referring to him as the "great Slayer", etc. The general amount of dicksucking just gets old after a certain point. Again, 2016 handled this better by balancing the demons considering Doomguy a major threat with Hayden's general attitude of "if you're so great then go get this shit done for me".

Eternal's tone ends up feeling less like Doom/Evil Dead and closer to Duke Nukem at times.

>>7181501
Raven Software's first game, and a good one too. I wonder if there has ever been an attempt to use its sprite in a Doom TC?

>>7181527
>closer to Duke Nukem at times.
Yet it works and is based. Imagine that.

>>7181523
Hmm, there is this
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=64953
And it's pretty good. Darn but cool.

>>7181515
You want to modify the original levels? Wouldn't it be better to make some new ones and then try to mix Doom and Doom 2 styles as you see fit?

>>7181531
>Yet it works and is based.
I don't think it works, I think it ends up feeling dumb.
But I'm also not 16 anymore, so I guess what you consider "based" just doesn't really impress me.

>REKKR? More like ASSLICKKR, do you even fight through a stygian pocket of evil to confront the ultimate harbingers of Satan, then finally return to become Earth's savior, dude? No? Then fuck off before I make you suck it down, if being my knob!

>>7181547
Yes, you're a fucking faggot who hates fun and is too enlightened for Eternal or slang terminology, we get it.

>>7181530
Those weird things in the screenshot showed up in Abysm 2

>>7181550
>mad

so what's the best way to play the original Half-Life in TYOL 2020 besides Black Mesa or Half Life Source?

>>7181550

>>7181550
>you're a fucking faggot who hates fun and is too enlightened for Eternal
I already said Eternal was fine, quit acting like a pissy bitch just because I criticized one aspect of it.

>>7181570
At this point it's hard to say if this is just more trolling or if he really is that much of a bootyblasted fanboy.

>>7181567
Don't play Half-Life Source, for the love of god, it's completely phoned in.

>>7181527
Yeah I hate the all the cringe slayer dick suckinh in the new games

>>7181575
>Don't play Half-Life Source, for the love of god, it's completely phoned in.
I'm aware, hence me looking for options besides it or Black Mesa

>>7181569
Lol whats this from?

>>7181582
I think it's from a MAD magazine cover, or Cracked? One of those.

>>7181581
I was gonna say to try that sourceport, but I forgot its name. X something? Someone else can brief you, I'm falling asleep.

>>7181567
>>7181581
Black Mesa is an overproduced garbage. It wants to be a real game so much but in the end it's just a bad mod.

No version of Gay-Life is worth playing. Errant Signal proved it ripped off Marathon.

>>7181586
There was a Doom issue? Holy shit I gotta track that down.

>>7181567
Steam Half-Life is fine. It had some glaring issues in the past, but it's sincerely better than Xash3D now.

>>7181592
Gabe has talked about the Marathon games being a big inspiration for the team in interviews

>>7181592
god shut up about your breadtuber

Best shotguns from retro games you’ve used
Doom > Blood > Shadow Warrior > Quake > Half-Life > Duke Nukem

>>7181567
>Half Life Source?
Avoid like the plague
Just going to repost this:
>Half-Life: Source is vastly and objectively inferior to the original as it is fundamentally broken in virtually every way which you can imagine, and it has only become worse over the years. The textures, map lighting, animations (many play at incorrect speeds, some don't play at all), sounds, AI, scripting, hit boxes, weapon damage, and many more aspects are all demonstrably broken. It has reached the point where critical enemies are no longer capable of performing damage. These aren't small or isolated issues. These are far-reaching game breaking bugs that have been known and documented for as long as the port has existed, but despite these problems being reported years ago, no fixes from Valve are going to be made. Half-Life: Source has long since been abandoned, so it will continue to remain in its irreparably broken state.

>Black Mesa
Millage will vary, depends on how you feel about og HL.

To really answer your question:
There's Steam, no real problems I heard
There's "GoldSrc Package 2.3", which I haven't tried but heard good things (mostly used by speedrunners)
Then there just finding (pirate) an old WON variant of HL and updating it to 1.1.0.0. (I use this mostly because there are some mods I have that have not and will never be updated to Steam HL)

>>7180861
I swear I remember TNT 2 had only like two more maps they were waiting on, So not sure where that is. Hopefully 2021
BTSX E3 I think is still in need of work, but now that E2 isn't in beta anymore, they can focus on E3 more.
>>7181068
He said AAA-megawad. 2048 Units of /vr/ was more akin to the likes of Community Chest, Nova, MAYhem, Claustrophobia 1024, etc

>>7181605
I don't think he's a Commie, just has a dumb opinion on Unreal and incorrectly thinks Halflife copied Marathon

>>7181607
>Doom > Blood > Duke Nukem > Shadow Warrior > Quake > Isle of the Dead > Killing Time >>>>>>>>> Half-Life

>>7181728
Forgot after Killing Time should be Operation Body Count > Island Peril >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Half-Life

Daikatana should be in there too for Shotgunjumping

He is here.

>>7181607
besides the low damage/tanky enemies, what's wrong with duke shotgun? the spritework and sounds are great

>>7181769
does pretty low damage

>>7180389
he's starting to look like Santa Claus

what will happen when Gaben retires? when he dies?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ly3FsjoC3M

Christmas themed wad

>>7181349
NW is obviously unfinished and I think so were you

>>7181530
>Raven Software's first game
nope, that would be pic related

>>7180557
top kek

>>7181530
the plant monsters in Golden Souls are basically the same from Shadowcaster

>>7181530
that face of your guy looks like it was repurposed for the multiplayer faces for Heretic

>>7181774
Its meant for peeking around corners and using cover between shots. I actually think its a fuckton more reliable than the ripper vs enforcers and piggybois, at least in regards to not trading damage as long as you have some kind of LoS blocker nearby. It could stand to hold more ammo though, 50 can feel pretty low if you keep accidentally walking over shellboxes when only missing one or two.

>>7181349
Fuck you, asshole. I am a Nuclear Winter apologist and you're clearly a troll trying to make my kind look bad. Although your triggering of retards who haven't played it and trust in their lord and savior Civvie . . . yeah I'm thinkin' based.

>>7181341
>Extremely bad
This is objectively untrue. It is hardly even bad at all.

>>7182259
>>7182262
It wasn't funny when you did this before, and it isn't funny now.

>>7181373
Level design in Caribbean is far better than ok-ish, and NW has some decent levels past the first two.

>>7182265
It's not supposed to be funny, it's fucking true. If you are the "bannable offense" faggot, how about quit coping and actually play the damn game before you spit out an asinine rote opinion. Next you'll say I'm "ruining the discussion" when noone on this general or this entire board has any other opinion than "it's shit" despite its redeeming qualities. Coincidence? Nah, don't think so.

>>7182270
NW:

>none of the new enemies have new sounds, either they have no sound or use the sounds of the original enemies they're based on
>the actually new enemies are too small in scale and their art looks unpolished
>only 5 actually new levels including 1 shorter boss level
>the levels are a mess, super high detailing in one area, unfinished rooms in other areas of the same level. Half of them are just "generic tech bases / sewer" and have nothing to do with the theme. Glitches, unclear progression.
>at least half of the new textures also look completely out of place

NW is an unfinished mess which looks like it suffered from bad direction.
Santa's Corporate HQ is the only level that gets close to being an actual good Build level, of the quality you'd expect from an official add-on like the Sunstorm ones; but even it manages to have shit progression like hiding critical paths behind buildings.

>>7181373
Honestly the og weapons in Duke also have terrible feedback.
Try playing Duke Nukem 64, see how great the weapons feel in that. You'll never want to see the og Duke weapons ever again.

>>7182282
They are supposed to be smaller, they're elves.

>>7181835
I meant first FPS

>>7182051
It literally was, it is ShadowCaster face with a hood drawn on

>>7182295
I know that, and not only it looks terribly out of place but it's a terrible decision gameplay wise

btw the women don't even bleed when shot, you probably have an excuse for that too

>>7182305
FEM Elven Female Grunts from the North Pole are known to have frozen blood that doesn't actually run out in liquid form till the corpse has set for hours.

>>7180779
That film did a superb job of making me like the Nazis.

>>7181165
A normal dick then? A dick mutilated at birth isn't normal.

Does anyone here know where I can find Stapler-san? I wanted to talk to him about the sex system he made for HDoom.

>>7182305
I had never noticed the naked vagina booty in the rocky textures.
Now I will never be able to unsee.

>>7179660
yeahb yeah, but, what about a doom annihilation sequel?
https://twitter.com/LevyBeams/status/1332827810956791809

>>7182373
i don't have a reaction image for this

>>7180389
Holy crap, he's that old? I feel old now

>>7181334
>opened
>502 views
>closed
is that easy

>>7182373
what a chad

>>7181791
>what will happen when Gaben retires? when he dies?
teleport to the north pole I guess

>>7181304
Looks like Marathon.

>>7181334
>For anyone who missed it, a YouTuber
FUCK OFF

>>7181719
he is
https://twitter.com/Campster

>>7181190
It's like Unreal Tournament 3 all over again

>>7180270
>>7180264
I agree, tedious fucking map

>>7181791
why would he retire?
He gets to do what-ever-the-fuck he wants all day as his company makes millions

>>7182503
No. Youtuber's shitting on le old FPS is more entertaining than you giant obese faggots.

>>7182537
Back to /v/ with you.

>>7181334
Is it really that important to bring that nobody's video up again?

>>7182509
Am I retarded or something? I can't find a download for Unreal Tournament in any links of the OP. There's the original Unreal but no Tournament.

>>7182548
Yes, because it means more derailment and annoying people.
and more attention for both him and the cocksucker reposting it here.

>>7182548
Not really, that poor sucker is just trying to promote his channel here

>>7181369
What? People have been shitting on Serious Sam LONG before civvie even had a youtube channel

>>7182553

is /vr/doom/ really that big in retro communities?
I would imagine we are quite low on the places to promote yourself list.

>>7182568
Well other sites are much much harsher on self promotion. If you have absolutely no followers then promoting on twitter and tumblr is useless. Facebook is mostly used by old people. Reddit bans self promotion. If you want to promote yourself you need to be aggressive and post literally everywhere you can. I remember some guy kept spamming his dumb counterstrike videos on this board for what felt like years. People will promote here because its not like doing so will magically lock out promoting yourself anywhere else.

>>7182509
but nice consistent graphics is the only thing ut3 has

>>7182659
>ut3 is retro now
I don't know what to think

>>7179658
Anybody play DoomRL? Pretty fun rogue-like.

>>7182681
Cool as fuck concept and the art style is great. Pity making dodging attacks dicerolls completely kills it for me, RNG is never on my side so I get shithoused quickly.

>>7182659
true but ut3 had a nasty case of greasy plastic surfaces

>>7182686
I think that's a problem that can be fixed playing on higher resolutions, I still played 1024x768 no filters at that time

having access to the unreal script code of ut, ut2004 and ut3 why nobody goes and finish the fucking ut pre alpha?
it seems the ut series are really dead on the water

>>7182662
crysis and tf2 are retro according the dumb-ass admins of /vr/

>>7182696
someone should unfuck unreal 2 and remake it unreal 1 style

>>7180263
What are those floaty things? I don't recall arachnotrons having hands. They don't look like duke brains, either.

>>7180263
>>7182703
Really cool fanart, by the way, looks adventurous.

>>7180425
Gabe's got mass. I feel like he can overpower them both with weight alone.

>>7180861
I think we'll get A LOT of wads in coming years because of corona.

>>7182703
It's ararchnotrons that lost chassy. It seems to be valiant fan art where such things happen. I can tell it's valiant because lightbridge on the moon.

>>7180982
This looks putrid.

>>7182696
The Unreal and UT communities are absolute trash. I left them behind in favor of GZDoom for a reason. As far as I'm concerned, they're dead to me.

Shit on graf all you want, at least he's still better than smirftsch (and has an easier name to write).

>>7182729
It says valiant.wad on the bottom right, too.

>>7182727
Yeah. 2020 already had quite a lot, honestly.

>>7182747
Oh. I didn't see it because I am phoneposting on bus right now.

>>7182737
>The Unreal and UT communities are absolute trash.
Not to doubt you, but how so? Haven't really been active with the community itself (even back when I played the fuck outta UT99), so I'm curious about the specifics.

>>7182760
me too, because there is no community except the usual spergs

It's crazy how mods for a single game play like standalone games, and they actually are.

Damn, Quake is a great game.

>>7182696
I'm still waiting for someone to port ut2004 to ue4 (5 at this point)
at least just the weapons and gorge
I think it's just a gargantuan task for one person

Thoughts on the Doom Classic Unity port

>>7182805
It's a better way for people to be introduced to classic doom than DOSbox or BFG Edition, but it isn't something I would personally use.

>>7182808
What's wrong with the BFG edition?
The censure in Doom II?

>>7182776
Be sure to check out the mods and mappacks.
>>7182768
Project Brutality at this point may as well be its own game.

>>7182818
No cheats, no true Nightmare difficulty, no way to load custom pwads, sound bugs. Unity launched with some of these problems, too, but they've at least been addressed in patches.

>>7182805
Good for consoles. A little buggy on the UI.

>>7182282
Thank you for putting basically what I wanted to say into one post, so I didn't have to go back and play that piece of shit again to refresh my memory. I made a promise to myself to never play that garbage again, and I'll remain true to that.

>>7179658
Redneck Rampage? More lije Shitneck Shitpage. Worst Build game by a mile.

>>7182562
It definitely occupies a weird place in the pantheon of FPS that others do not given its laser focus on horde management, and that isn't for everyone. The most it gets compared to is Painkiller, but anyone who's played both will tell you Painkiller is as far from Serious Sam as SS is to Quake.

Any recommendations for HUD mods for doom? I don't have any particular needs, I just never seem to notice what my health or ammo levels are without consciously, deliberately checking.

>>7182887
I really like the way it looks but the key hunt in the first level burned me out.

>>7182805
They're worth it on console, not so much on PC with the existence of accurate modern sourceports

>>7182568
It's technically easier to promote yourself on an anonymous forum, because there's no membership and it's really easy to pretend that you're one of the regulars, as opposed to a mysteriously new account posting just one thing on your forum.

>>7182703
Arachnotrons have always had hands, just like the Spidermastermind.

>>7182805
Not bad ports, but I don't play it very much since I can't inject new wads into it on Switch anymore.

>>7182568
It's a good starting point, especially if you get involved with the projects here. But it's pretty terrible for tutorials or learning anything.

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103938-early-and-unused-doom-64-level-designs/
Are these levels saved anywhere? The link in the post is dea

Happy birthday, old boy

>>7182887
>Worst Build game by a mile.

I wouldn't say that. Tekwar is worse, so are both Witchaven and obviously Extreme Paintbrawl.
Arguably Redneck Deer Huntin' is also a worse game although it competes in a completely different league.


>>7182927
First level is far from being the best level.
Also, the sequel, Rides Again, is a much better game.

>>7182768
Doom has an incredible shelf-life.
>good core gameplay with good design
>27 years of map making and mod making, source code and alpha/beta assets long since made available, people have gone nuts with them
>can play a campaign as is with the original gameplay, and it's good, or you can use a mod which can change up the gameplay, or even invent an all new one, effectively giving you a new video game
And people STILL haven't run out of ideas, more, ideas that take hold are usually good enough that they'll never completely go out of style, resurfacing in the future again.

>>7182776
Right? Be sure to check out the expansions and then Arcane Dimensions, if you loved the core game, you'll love AD.

>>7182972
I think it's the oldest game in existence to still get official updates, no? Unity port just put out Doom Zero and all.

>>7182954
Can't find them either. I'm interested.

I'm finallyovimg away from gzDoom for non-zDoom playing. What are your guys' favourite vanilla-ass source ports that have widescreen resolution support and maybe a pistol-start option but otherwise remain absolutely faithful to the base game?

>>7182968
>First level is far from being the best level.
I'm willing to invest some more time into it to give it another shot. Second level was also getting a bit tiring but maybe that's from the first.

>>7183002
>finallyovimg
iktf phoneposter

>>7182992
I guess it kind of does, with the new ports and the curated content.

>>7183002
PrBoom+

>>7183002
Vanilla vanilla? Crispy Doom is the end-all, be-all. Boom compatibility? PRBoom+

>>7183004
Apparently I'm moving away from proper spelling, too.
>let me shit in peace

>>7183010
Shit, I forgot to specify Boom compatibility, I guess I'm trying out PRBoom+ today. Thanks dudes.

>>7183002
>>7183032
Use DSDA-Doom in place of PrBoom. It's the same port but it's actually being updated

Crispy Doom for limit-removing and vanilla.
PrBoom/DSDA-Doom for Boom/MBF. There are two executables here, both are the same except one uses OpenGL rendering instead of software rendering.
There is also a port called Woof, which is kind of like Crispy MBF in that it's 640 res like Crispy, but it can play Boom/MBF megawads as well.

I'm actually in the opposite situation in that I've only been using Crispy/PrBoom/Woof for ~8 months and I'm now finishing out my Valiant playthrough in GZDoom with brightmaps and gore mods etc. for fun

>>7183032
Doing an internet search for DSDA-Doom doesn't bring up the link to the source port, so here

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118074-dsda-doom-source-port-v084/

https://www.doomworld.com/vb/thread/112333

https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/crispy-doom
Find "Releases" in github and download the latest release. Which reminds me, this is why you wanna use DSDA-Doom. PrBoom+ 2.5.1.7 hasn't had a new release in like years, despite all the new commits added to it, so if you want the new commits you have to compile it yourself. DSDA-Doom, however, automatically uses the latest commits from PrBoom+ 2.5.1.7, so you always have the lastest updates when you use DSDA-Doom

>>7180389
was gaben actually the director? valve games don't really have titles in their credits, which is cool but it makes it harder to find out who did what.

>>7182990
>>7182845
Will do, looking forward to it.
>AD
Holy shit, these maps are gorgeous. They're really pushing the engine to the limit.

>>7180825
Its trash. I fucking hate its flashes of light everywhere.

Worse they turned it into darksiders.

>>7183151
Arcane Dimensions is 10/10. Can't go wrong, but I thoroughly recommend playing Quake's mission packs first.

>>7183154
Of course, vanilla first.

>>7180825
I don't think my PC can handle it. Liked Doom 2016 would probably like this one too, don't care much about lore.

DURRR COPE COPE BASED BASED CRINGE CRINGE LE ZOOMER I'M A BOOMER, ZOOM ZOOM ZOOMIES REDPILLED

>>7183173
i offer medicine

>>7180825
The lore is dumb as fuck.

>>7179660 Pls add to the news post for 12-13.

Violent Beetle releases limit-removing pwad Hell Frontier for playtesting >>7171578
https://www.mediafire.com/file/e9ls2ykgs92d144/hell_frontier_3009.wad/file

>>7183204
all wads are canon bro

>>7183226
Don't bro me, sis.

>>7183226
Cringe, bro.

Why is Episode 2 easier on Nightmare than Episode 1?
The only level i had problem with was Halls of the Damned.
Maybe the lack of hitscanners?

For anyone interested, i just uploaded Painkiller (Black Edition, with Battle Out of Hell expansion) to my mega (Win98 games, it's in the OP). Should work without problems if you have directx 9 on your system

>>7183134
>>7183143
>DSDA-Doom
This is perfect for me, thanks! Booting up Preacher now.

>>7182698
Go to the feedback page then, and tell them to change the cutoff date to 2003 or 2004.

>>7183226
bro.wad

>>7183226
>>7183295
bruh.wad

>>7183283
Please remember to set your complevel correctly according to the WAD you're playing.

Preacher is Boom compat, so it requires -complevel 9 .

If you don't set complevel and just go with the default, in-fighting is gonna be all fugged up and shiet.

Handy guide -
>Doom 1 WAD = complevel 3
>Doom 2 WAD = complevel 2
>FinalDoom WAD = complevel 4
>Boom WAD = complevel 9
>MBF WAD = complevel 11

Those are the ones you will use for 99% of cases.

>>7183283
Based. Be sure to watch the intro.

Usually, I recommend Sector Light Mode: Shaders, because it imitates the look of software rendering but it gives the faster performance of hardware renderng.

For Preacher, I'd recommend Sector Light Mode: GLBoom because the maps are gorgeous. Toggle gamma with F11 if stuff is too dark, pic related, its a switch that opens the exit but it's too dark with no gamma correction

>>7183283
>>7183313
Failed to menion, Sector Light Mode is on page 5 of General Options

Also, there is currently a bug you might come across when setting up DSDA-Doom. It might crash if you change video mode, resolution, and fullscreen, so you might need to change those options one at a time then exit to prevent crashes. So for example, change to fullscreen, exit and reopen, change video mode to OpenGL (page 1), exit and reopen, change resolution to the correct one. I ran into that problem myself but the port works fine otherwise. It's a problem with PrBoom 2.5.1.7 itself, not with DSDA-DOom

>>7183143
Thanks dude, cheers!

>>7182968
>First level is far from being the best level
And the worst I'm afraid. That sewer level was AAAASSSS

>>7182887
Witchraven 2, NAM, Tekwar, and Extreme Paintbrawl are truly quite worse.

>>7182887
I like it. It has some collision issue and the keys should be bigger and the sewer level should be cut.
Other than that, fun game.

>>7183313
>Be sure to watch the intro.
HALLELUJAH

>>7183303
What exactly is the wonky infighting behavior?

>>7183434
I think it was on complevel 11 where monster infighting for some reason is a lot less reliable, and that's something that can make some levels a lot harder to play.

>>7180557
>aol sample discs embeded like throwing stars in walls
welp we used to do that at a skate park near the local highschool. there were some wood walls at some abandoned building and wed throw shit into it and it would penetrate and stick. most notably aol sample cds, cds of games that usually came with cerals and the chain gears from bikes.

Major Arlene called me an incel and a bitch for daring to post criticism of his maps. I respond with he's the one acting like a bitch in response to criticism.
Banned for two weeks.

>>7183459
And now you've come here to lick your wounds. Cute.

>>7183459
C'mon Ronnie, you're usually such a good poster what are you doing

>>7183459
So what did you actually type up (in exact words), in your fury?

>>7183459