/vr/ - Retro Games

Commit suicide.

Hijacking this thread with a high res version of OP's

I have started gaming in 1989 or so. Through the last 30 years or so of gaming and playing games that were blockbusters to schlock, this is still in my top 5 games of all time, even with the trippy ending.

>>7177108
First one is one of my top games , 2 is not as good and the artwork is not very good but still a great game. Ending was cool imo.

Go fuck yourself OP

>>7177539
Nostalgia in one image

The first one was outstanding, the second one was shit purely because of the extreme amount of cryptic puzzles. Fuck MI2fags.

>7177108 (op)
Low quality bait.

These games were screaming for some sort of objective system. Stop playing one night by the next you've forgotten what you're supposed to be doing.

>>7182030
That's almost the entirety of the point'n'click genre for you. MI1 does stray from this, though. It doesn't have any cryptic puzzles. The same can be said for MI3. I wish I knew more point'n'click games like that because I'd gladly play them.

>>7182041
Most PC gamers only bought a few games a year back then, so the expectation was that they should take several months to complete. Because adventure games were expensive to produce, they intentionally made puzzles cryptic in order to extend the playtime. MI2 was specifically designed to take over 40 hours, but using a hint guide you can finish it in less than 10.

>>7182096
I don't like that kind of lenghtening the game. I'd rather have a difficult but fair game (which also extends the length) than a game that's long because it's cryptic. Besides, if they made MI1 such a fair game puzzles-wise, I don't see why they didn't go with that approach more often.
MI2 wouldn't be so bad if you didn't have a shitton of options at once. It takes an insane amount of time to test out stuff since you have access to a lot of places at the same time. MI1 wasn't like this at all, especially in the second chapter.
Day of the Tentacle is almost even worse, as to transfer items from one person to another you have to have both characters be in front of the time machine.

Are Space Quest and the other Sierra adventure games any good? I've heard a lot of people shit talking them, usually in the context of how much better the LucasArts games are. I haven't tried them myself but the whole repeat dying thing does sound like piss poor game design.

>>7183391
>Conquests of The Longbow
>Kings Quest VI
>Gabriel Knight 1 & 2
>Quest for Glory 1-5
>Leisure Suit Larry 7
>Torin's Passage
These are the peak adventure games in Sierra's catalog. You are less likely to get filtered if you begin with one of those.

Everyone shut up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuaYINajs6c

>>7177108

>>7182136
>have to have both characters be in front of the time machine.

I don't think that's always true? I'm fairly sure you can get away with having at least one character away from the toilet once you've done it once or twice. You can drag and drop items on to character portraits for more efficient passing.

>>7182016
This. Access to all the islands at the same time, as opposed to focus in one location at the time was a terrible decision.

>>7183660
How is that any different than having three separate quest items on Melee Island?

I liked comedy games like Sam and Max and Leisure Suit Larry back in the day but always hated Monkey Island. Guybrush Threepwood is a dweeb - why do people like him? If he existed in 2020, you'd all be calling him a cuck or a simp. He's such a irritable weeny.

>>7184019
Guybrush is cooler than Larry

>>7184029
Larry's funnier though.

>>7183523

Larry 6 is free of dead ends too. I think it's funnier than 7 too.

>>7183525
That comfy warm AdLib sound...

>>7177539
saved

>>7184008
It's different because you are nowhere near as overwhelmed as you are in MI2.

>>7183640
Are you sure?

>>7183640
>You can drag and drop items on to character portraits for more efficient passing.
I felt so smart when I discovered this.

>>7184257
He's right. The first couple of times there's a short cutscene that shows the character putting the items in the toilet and after that it's instant.

>>7184307
Well fuck. Why the hell doesn't the game tell you this?

>>7184052
Personally I think 4 was the best

>>7184252
>I'm an idiot
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>>7184313
>it's another "/vr/ never reads the manual" thread

>>7185271
>reading manas
>in 2020
I mean, sure, if it was something like MDK's manual, but I don't know

>>7183640
>You can drag and drop items on to character portraits for more efficient passing.
I played nearly the whole game before figuring this out. It was my own fault, because it's explained in the manual that I didn't bother reading.

So what the fuck was up with this shit? Guybrush's parents left him? and then LeChuck destroyed his "spiritual essence"? This whole thing was kind of disturbing.

>>7186474
I imagine they were killed in a shipwreck.

>>7183660
I spent most of the time I played this as a kid just travelling between islands, listening to the music and talking to all the characters.
it might have been a mistake, made it less tight, but I sure appreciated it. Felt like a whole little world in my Amiga, never got anything like that sort of feeling from the first game.
lots of adventure games are like MI1, but I don't know any like MI2.

>>7184019
Guybrush is like a British protagonist. He's a bit shit at everything in a relatable way, but not really much if a character at all.
Unless having oneitis, hating fruit cocktail and porcelain and being completely ineffectual at most tasks is a personality.

just beat this game. what the shit just happened?

>>7187129
Deponia (particularly 2), Quest for Glory 1-5, Leisure Suit Larry: Love for Sail, and Toonstruck are all very non-linear.

>>7187129
Deponia trilogy, Quest for Glory 1-5, Leisure Suit Larry: Love for Sail, and Toonstruck are all very non-linear.

Even if its creator speaks on the contrary I'm 100% sure he suicide bombed the franchise with the ending because he was being fired.

>>7188874
>I'm 100% sure he suicide bombed the franchise with the ending because he was being fired.
Seems like I'm not the only one who got that impression.
People have probably asked him numerous times about his vision of the "real MI3" over the years, but he's kept quiet because he just doesn't care anymore.

>>7178514
>>>7177108 (OP)
>First one is one of my top games , 2 is not as good and the artwork is not very good but still a great game. Ending was cool imo.

I actually agree. I think the original is a classic and I have replayed it many times on different platforms. DOS, MacOS (the 90's OS), Sega CD, and even the remake. I wasn't a fan of the redrawn graphics in the remaster, but you can play this version with the original art and still have the voice acting. I love everything about the first Monkey Island.

The second game is good too. But I could never enjoy this one like the original. The remaster/ remake is also pretty nice, and does add voice acting. You can play it with the original graphics. But people have complained that it breaks the sound MUSE engine?

>>7182030
I can't tell if you're a zoomer or an alzhoomer.

Speaking of pirate games with retarded endings, what is that notoriously bad PC game with the stiff, bug-eyed 3D models that ends with everybody singing an awful shanty?

>>7188874
>>7188935
But he was never being fired. And I always got the impression that to Gilbert, MI wasn't anything particularly dear or special, I mean he left the company willingly knowing full well he was abandoning the IP in the process.