/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7173926
>launch price: $160 ($260 with the genesis)
Better just buy an atari jaguar.

A part of me wishes that shit like the Super FX chip or the 32X had extended the fourth generation's lifespan for a couple more years. When you look at the stuff that was coming out around 1995, it feels like the devs were really just starting to unlock the full potential of the SNES/Genesis when the fifth generation dropped and most people moved on. A couple of more years to get the hang of working in full 3D probably wouldn't have hurt either.

>>7173952
>Super FX chip
Expensive and inefficient to manufacture, and significantly less powerful than the 32/64 bit consoles of the era on top of it.
>32X
Messy cabling, bottlenecked by the Genesis' 16 bit processing, and the games weren't very good.

>>7173952
>just starting to unlock the full potential of the SNES/Genesis
Based on what?

>>7173952
>>7173978
This. They didn't "unlock the full potential". They were just extending the capability of those obsolete hardware.

>>7173970
>>7173978
>>7173985
Um... Poopy vagina?

>>7173926
>weebshit

any zoomer redditor who uses this term needs to be permabanned

>>7173978
Based on the GBA library, for starters.

>>7173952
a part of you is wishing for something that we didn't need, the Saturn is the better parts of the 32x anyway and we got a lot of software accelerated 2D gold because of it. i like to think about what 32x games had been like had they just been designed for the Saturn from the getgo

>>7173952
32x does a terrible job expanding the Genesis' capabilities. 2d games powered by it run at 30 fps, and even when it leans heavily on the Genesis, like with Knuckles Chaotix, it still has slowdown, and that game is just character sprites in levels that are essentially empty. The 32x blows.
The Saturn, on the other hand, could make a 2d platformer that just slays anything the Genesis could hope to do in terms of background layers, background detail and animation, sprite sizes and sprite animation. Of course, no one really did.

>>7174169
Your input was not necessary, kindly suck a dick.

I think the 32X would be more justified if it used cards instead of cartridges, the games would be cheaper and would had better graphics.

>>7174285
>Of course, no one really did.
What? No way. Clockwork Knight, Keio Flying Squadron 2, Silhouette Mirage, and Astal are very good examples of all the stuff you listed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75nDdCTEyQI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvJw32GRF1U

>>7173926
>>no weebshit
>uh, based?

Wow, you're right. Not a single "weeb" game on the platform. I thought Virtua Racing Deluxe was pretty good, and the 32X does have a shockingly good port of the original Virtua Fighter. I wish it had more super scaler ports, like Space Harrier and After Burner 2. Knucjkes Chaotix is weird. I like parts of it. It has some cool looking visuals. It does use the Genesis for all the enviroments and uses the 32x for sprite scaling, polygons, and background layers as well as bosses. It is a nice tech demo for the hardware. But the gameplay is a little weird. But I want to replay this one again. Mortal Kombat 2 is better than the Genesis port. It does sadly still use the low colour genesis back ground layers. But it does update the sprites to 128 or higher colours, and there are more frames of animation, better audio samples, arcade intros and other things. It is a nice enhancement. If you like MK2. NBA JAM is pretty good on the 32x. Kolibri is kinda weird, but looks nice. The 32X had such a short lifespan, so it doesn't have too many games worth talking about.

>>7173926
The 32X is unironically a better system than the Sega Saturd.

>>7173926
Literally more than half the library is weeb shit

Somebody give me a 32X game worth playing that isn't Kolibri.
No Sonic or arcade ports

>>7174381
tempo
spiderman
zaxxon 2000

>>7174393
Tempo looks somewhat fun. I'll pass on Spider-Man and Zaxxon however.

>>7174408
Don't bother, Tempo looks and sounds good plays just as good as the North American boxart

>>7174408
i gotta rec tempo and zaxxon, both are really weird and you'll understand that these games could have been really good, but they're all stopgap games that got rushed out the door

>>7173926
>no games
uh, based?

>>7174290
back

>>7173970
>>Super FX chip
>Expensive and inefficient to manufacture, and significantly less powerful than the 32/64 bit consoles of the era on top of it.
I never understood why they didn't just release the SuperFX as a lock on cart like S&K, pack it in with Star Fox, and then just require it for the rest of the games, charge like $15 bucks for the SFX cart standalone. When Yoshis Island/SFX2 released they could have done the same thing again, since many bought that game anyway.

>>7173970
>and the games weren't very good.
they could have been. Virtua racing, Virtua fighter, Space Harrier were all good. Had they released a good Sonic game and decent Doom it wouldn't have been viewed as such a flop.

>>7174360
You can't be serious???

>>7173926
It hardly had any fucking games at all.

>>7174636
>Space Harrier
>Good
The original arcade game was shit.
The 32X port wasn't much better.
>decent Doom
Not possible on 32X's shitty hardware.

>>7174669
>The original arcade game was shit.
I'm sure you know this from finishing it, right?

>>7173926
Why did they think this piece of shit was a good idea instead of simply making more games and focusing on the Saturn?

>>7173978
Look at something like Vectorman, that’s fucking beautiful and fluid.

>>7173926
You 32X stans almost got games worthwhile too, like a Castlevania game which would have been reworked into SOTN and Dynamite Headdy

>>7173926
You hook this guy up like the systems on life support and there's still like 2 good games and that's it.

>>7175315
>What a perfect visual analogy. Sega invented the 32X to increase the lifespan of the Genesis. And that's exactly what the freaking thing looks like.

>>7174169
no need to keep crying man, I'm sure mommy will pick you up for dinner sooner or later

>no weebshit
based

>>7174641
I'm dead. Fuckin'. Serious.

>>7174393
Spider-Man Web of Fire is complete ass

>>7175924
I guess you're just retarded then. There's like 5 games on the 32X and they all suck ass

>>7174169
>Betashit

>>7175996
quality<quantity

>>7173926
Well it was made by Sega of America.

>>7175341
>>What a perfect visual analogy. Sega invented the 32X to increase the lifespan of the Genesis. And that's exactly what the freaking thing looks like.

Early AVGN was on-point with that analogy. Sega had to do some strange mental gymnastics to make the 32x work on the Genesis. The 32x required a special video cable that connected the Genesis to the 32x, just so the 32x wasn't hard locked to the Genesis's 64 colour pallet. The 32x was an attempt at keeping the Genesis (in the US) hardware on retail store shelves. It actually sold much better than the Sega Saturn did at launch. More retailers had the 32x in stock too. Sega's surprise early launch of the Saturn caused retailers to boycott Sega after the lack of available stocks. Retailers were also not happy at having to stock more Sega hardware. Which lead to the 32x being discounted quickly and 3rd party support dropped like a rock.

>>7175991
>Spider-Man Web of Fire is complete ass

It really is. Spiderman vs The Kingpin on the Genesis/MD is a much better game.

>>7176061
I think it was Japan that came up with the idea of the 32X because they were scared of the Atari Jaguar, yeah, they were scared of the fucking Jaguar. No wonder they went out of business.

>>7175302
>beautiful
I disagree. Aladdin looks nicer.

>>7174674
The game was so awful I couldn't even be bothered finishing it.
Not when there were so many other great arcade games to play.
Space Harrier is probably Yu Suzuki's only turd.

I would like to think that instead of a Saturn, Sega would kept this monstruosity with the CD add-on and made real game with it.
One posible game that comes to mind would be a Sonic 32XCD; Graphics similar to or more polished than Chaotix, bigger stages, PCM or CDDA audio with surround sound possibilities, plus FMV for intro, between levels and endings.

>>7178214
>The game was so awful I couldn't even be bothered finishing it.
I knew you never gave it a chance. Probably never played a Yu Suzuki game in your entire life.

Space Harrier is fast paced has great graphics, gameplay, controls, music. It's got it all.

https://youtu.be/BNzAk9IKREA?t=7

>>7178227
>plus FMV
No.

>>7174636
>Had they released a good Sonic game and decent Doom it wouldn't have been viewed as such a flop.
Maybe the Saturn would have did better with those things, but the 32X was doomed from the start.

Had the potential for some great games but it needed to exist on the market at least three years earlier than it did.

>>7173978

Red Zone
Panorama Cotton

Don't care. Still better than the Virtual Boy.

>>7174169
They hated him because he told the truth.

>>7179830
Any console that didn't play a role in the Yakuza assassination of Gunpei Yokoi was better than Virtual Boy, that's a pretty low bar to set.

>>7174169
Don’t cut yourself on that edge, your unusually thin skin wouldn’t handle it

>>7174608
>I never understood why they didn't just release the SuperFX as a lock on cart like S&K, pack it in with Star Fox, and then just require it for the rest of the games
Because then the Super FX wouldn't work as intended, retard.

>>7174169
t. weeb who likes weebshit

>>7179997
Enlighten me, did it have to be soldered onto the board directly, and not be able to talk to a game through the connector?

>>7179830
I dunno, I prefer Wario Land and Teleroboxer to any games on 32X. Tempo is pretty dope though, and the ports of Virtua Fighter and VR are nice, but not exclusive.
>>7179890
>yokoi assassination meme
based and soipilled

>>7180648
purasubu deniarabirity

>>7180642
Yes. It's not like the 32X which renders different assets from the Genesis. Super FX games need the chip to actually function.

>>7174309
I didn't mean that literally. It is lacking in both quantity and quality in that category, and in stuff that shows off its prowess compared to the Playstation? Even more limited.