/vr/ - Retro Games

who's you're favourite doom?

>>713940
Beautiful Warrior Flynn Taggart was the best doom, honestly

>>713940
The only doom

>>713959
>not beautiful warrior Ranger

>>713940

Question.
Yesterday, I think, someone posted screenshots of mod where little doomguys were spawned instead of blood when an opponent was hit. Is there any name of this wad? Or a download link? I'd like to play it with Doom 4x bigger and Revenantation.

Can someone give me a link to the best random map generator?
And a tutorial on how to make it work with Brutal DOOM?

>>714151
ACTOR MiniDoomguy : MarineFist replaces Blood
{
Health 20
Scale 0.2
Damage (random(20,200))
}

>>713971
He looks like Guy Gardner. Which is fun, considering they both wear green, and are angry as fuck all the time

>>714153
woops doublepost
OBLIGE should be good, you can get it here
http://oblige.sourceforge.net/i_download.html
there's no reason why it wouldn't work with brutal doom, I mean it's just a map generator

>>714157
Is that it? I thought there had a +FRIENDLY flag, too.

>>714163
Marines come with that, so it's not needed.
triplepost WOOPS

Have there been any source ports to iOS?

>>714209
No. But there have been emulations for those. Hell, I've seen DOOM be played on a calculator.

>>714209
Yes, the official release by id and the fanmade one named Gameception.

>>714159

I'd play the shit out of a Guy Gardner mod. Fucker's about as RIP AND TEAR as it gets.

But if constructs aren't manly enough, my boy Guy can go much more EXTREME...

/g/.wad guy here. Someone in the other thread said they had me covered. I'm glad to work with you and make this a joint effort if you wish. Simply email me and we can get to work.

I am emulating PlayStation DOOM right now. On the same screen I play PC DOOM on, so there's no testing bias.
Remarkably, the total conversion of PlayStation DOOM for PC DOOM is... extremely dark for no reason. The levels are darker in the PC version than the PlayStation. I suppose I should release a "fix", it's almost unenjoyably unplayable because of it.

>>714603
its to dark? what are you scared? if you get lost run along the wall, run into a enemy? shoot'em till its dead...fix it ya should fix yoself

>>714649
Fix your spelling first and I may consider what you said. No, it's stupidly dark. You can't see properly, I even bumped up my gamma just to play it and it just shouldn't be that way.
It's not about getting lost, it's about not being able to see. You've got a brain, I advise you start using it.

yeah i just don't find maps that are too dark to be fun, and if i'm not having fun playing a map what's the point?

>>714603
Noticed that myself, it really becomes apparent in places like the computer halls in E1M2. You can hardly see anything in those corridors.

>>714603
>>714649

I had this issue before, it's because it needs Open GL to use colored lighting properly.

And yeah, without it it's pretty much unplayable.

Is there any good guide to modding whit zandronum?Google doesnt help

>>714789
No. Even in OPenGL mode it's darker than it should be, by miles. It really isn't supposed to be that dark.

>>714808
http://zdoom.org/wiki/Main_Page

>>714812
That only gives me a list of commands for decorate and others, but i will try

>>714817
It also tells you, and very important it is, which functions work on what. Zandronum, until the next update, is still running on outdated ZDOOM technology since the conversion from SkullTag to Zandro was the removal of SkullTag actors and weapons which were coded into it.
Apparently the next update will be "up to date".

>>714829
They're jumping 3 versions? No wonder they've been taking forever.

they should just fucking merge the three

zdoom
gzdoom=zdoom+opengl
zandro=zdoom+opengl+clientserver

just fucking merge the three, and also doomsday's renderer

does anyone have the r34 of Unreal girl from the last thread?

>>714835
Yeah, I don't get the reasoning behind there being 3 different clients for essentially features that can be grouped together.

>>713940

>>714842

>muh personal projects
>muh ego

>>714849
Oh, so it's the same reason why there are a million different Linux distros. How mature.

>>714838
this post is a polite suggestion to learn how to use the archive. also, here's a link: https://archive.foolz.us/vr/thread/701325/#713347

Someone posted this picture in the thread yesterday saying they'd be willing to cover me on the sprites for the /g/.wad mod. If you're here, then please email me. I'd love to make this a joint effort.

>>714851
>>714849
actually i imagine it's more to do with GZDoom's notoriously doesn't-suffer-fools-gladly maintainer being willing to put up with Skulltag bullshit

>>714835
Pic related.

>>714851
That's kind of a false analogy, because the versatility and libre freedom of Linux is the whole point.

>>714854
S-so lewd.

>>714868
So they're being stubborn fucks?

>>714875
good god fuck off already

>>714862

seriously, shut the fuck up about it
we get it, you want an artist
not need, want
you don't need to post every hour about it

>>713959
we need a wad similar to that image.

>>714842
>for essentially features that can be grouped together.
You know nothing.

>>714849
You also know nothing.

It's really hilarious how many people think they can "just" be grouped together.
As if it was something that could be easily crammed together without any issues or problems.

Here's a demonstration, resized, of what PlayStation DOOM (emulated) looks like and PlayStation DOOM (conversion). Just for those who didn't know. Also, the conversion is running in OpenGL mode.

>>714879
No need to get mad over two posts in a thread. Get the stick out of your ass, please.

>>714886
I assume the top one is the emulated one?

>>714881
>>714875

This. Stop complaining about how there's two separate ports that work on different things.
No, they cannot be merged together that fucking easily.
You want to know the reason why Zandronum is so behind?

It's because ZDOOM'S FEATURES DON'T FUCKING WORK IN ONLINE PLAY THAT WELL AND HALF THE TIME IS SPENT MAKING IT THAT THEY DO
There's a reason ZDoom's netplay is shit.

>>714881
>It's really hilarious how many people think they can "just" be grouped together.
Nah, nah, nah. Think about this. All the developers of the source ports, come together and work as one. It gets done quicker, it supports all, has "better" online and whatever. The issue is the divide in the community. BOOM don't wanna play with (G)ZDOOM, and mostly (G)ZDOOM don't wanna play with Zand. I don't really care. It's useless drama to me.

>>714891
>There's a reason ZDoom's netplay is shit
Because Zdoom doesn't focus all of its time and energy on multiplayer

>>714881
I've been involved in projects before. These are essentially additional features on top of zdoom. They don't, from as far as I know, change the underlying foundation of how the game works or how modding works, and relatively speaking, I believe a joining of the three projects wouldn't cause much hassles. Relatively speaking, mind you. I'm sure there will be problems, but those could be resolved fairly quickly if the developers work hard at it.

>>714890
Yes. As it's been said, the conversion is much darker than the emulated version.

>>714875
You're free to break off from a project and make a new linux distro instead of help contribute to projects with very similar goals. I get that, but instead of having the entire Linux community contribute to several different distros with the same goals, they need to come together on one or two distros. There's a comic about this, somewhere.

>>714893
>They don't, from as far as I know, change the underlying foundation of how the game works

But they do. Most of the ACS functions and Decorate commands don't work in online play at all. They need to be edited so they can work in online play.

>>714897

...Because it doesn't work in online play.

>>714918
Decorates are an extension, but a very important extension. So that might be a significant problem.

Theoretically speaking, combining ZDoom with real multiplayer shouldn't be impossible. But it would require some work. The Skulltag drama probably amplifies this though.

>>714891

I thought it was because the people that took skulltag from the half-competent creator were only barely more competent themselves and loved to indulge drama.

But no, you're right; things like +SPECIES and+DONTHARMSPECIES tags are difficult to transfer to online play.

>>714891
>It's because ZDOOM'S FEATURES DON'T FUCKING WORK IN ONLINE PLAY THAT WELL AND HALF THE TIME IS SPENT MAKING IT THAT THEY DO
>There's a reason ZDoom's netplay is shit.
zdoom uses traditional lock/step networking doesn't it? i mean it's fine if you keep all engines on a lan in sync with each other, it's the problems that ensue when you try to do client/server over the slow, unpredictable internet. so zdoom's networking is basically lan-only. is this right?

>>714932

yes, it's so much easier to say people are fucks than to understand why you're not getting what you want as fast as you want

>Playing Chex Quest on Super Slimy

>>714935
Basically lan-only, yes. And even then, it's incredibly unreliable and prone to desynching depending on your cvar settings, how everyone loads/unloads the level, and if you sneeze in the right direction.

>>714932
i can't comment on the competence of the zandro developers but i am fairly sure they (the actual programmers at least) hate drama and stay out of it.

>>714854
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

>>714946
>>714932
>>714849

I never understood the Zandrama thing. The devs are remarkably drama-free. The biggest problem is the playerbase and the clanfags, with A3 being the most prone to butthurt of them all.

What's the wad you guys always play to try out new gameplay mods? I personally have Coffee Break episode 1 as my go-to wad.

>>714960
doom2 map32 is a traditional test map because it has almost all the weapons on it

>>714960

Scythe and Scythe II.
I've played it so often now I know it almost back to front.

>>714960
doom2 map32 is a traditional test map because it has almost all the weapons on it, easily and quickly accessible, and plenty of room to run around to see the effects of your shots and what not. also you have a cyberdemon to test how powerful they are.

>>714960
Knee Deep in the Dead to test how the gameplay itself feels, and Doom 2 map32 for the weapons

>>714838
>>714854
>>714874
>>714952
Don't tell me you guys actually... like that crap? It's drawn so badly. There may not be much of what you want, but don't be desperate.

>>714976
not me. i looked up the link yesterday when i wanted to know what all the fuss in the last thread was about. i re-posted it today because it was fresh in my browser history and easy to find. feel free to yell at me for spoonfeeding if you want.

>>714960
I test out The Shores of Hell, but most .wads/pk3/pk7 are made for DOOM II, which is a shame because I really like DOOM over DOOM II. It's not difficult to put newer monster classes in so it works for the Ultimate DOOM (10 minutes, 30 minutes at most to stomp out any bugs)
A real shame because id wanted a sawed-off shotgun in DOOM. Anyways, it's not difficult to actually set a spawn variable, replacing shotgun with supershotgun 50% or some monsters (cacodemon % chance to be replaced with a Pain Elemental) and a variable to double the amount of said monster for replacements.
Don't get me wrong, I like DOOM II and especially so towards the end, but... I think Ultimate DOOM is better.

>>714976
>It's drawn so badly.
Hah hah hah sure.

>>715001
FKER puts the SSG into Doom, mainly because removing the SSG zombie for just Doom was a chore.

PSA

If you guys want to get into monster spriting, you can check the resources pastebin in the OP post, I remember compiling some spriting tutorials I came across while lurking the ZDoom forums.

I haven't tested 'em myself, so if you happen to make something decent by following their instructions, let us all know about it

Also, if the Cyberruner spritedude is reading this, I would like to ask him to try to compile a monster spriting tutorial using 3D models. It would be greatly appreciated

>>715020
But FKER doesn't mesh with other weapon mods too well

>>715032
Well, depending on what you want, you could rip out a bit of it to just add the SSG zombie and gun in. I organized it fairly well so it shouldn't be too hard.

>>715020
I know what it does. I know that it works. I played your stupid super-hard-mode and it's stupid. Floors which hurt you are prominent in DOOM, sometimes you HAVE to run across them. But I can't 'cause I die. What you should do is make it so the player can get hurt on floors, but if a monster hits you, then you die. That'd make it fair. Just so you know, I got through to the Halls of the Damned before finding it impossible.

>>714881
>It's really hilarious how many people think they can "just" be grouped together.

This thread is a good example of why I'm no longer a CS major. I realized programmers often have to work for people who've never written a line of code, but think they know more about software than the people who actually make it.

>>715052
I did say I was looking into it, which I am. It's not a simple task. I thinkvI might just make abplayer class that's immune to the floors and use that for S&D and ultimate.

Anyways, that shouldn't be the main draw anyway. UV is about hard enough for most with all the new monsters.

>>715058
I've written several lines of code, mind you! In all seriousness, this isn't something impossible. It's more of a drama thing then an architectural incompatibility thing. These are three different projects with different goals that do not conflict and work on the same foundation. Decorates and ACS isn't balls hard to develop for online play. There are challenges, but they aren't anything out of the ordinary when it comes to coupling projects together. Open source projects do this kind of stuff often.

>>715076
Oh god I can't type on this phone. It hurts.

>>715079
>It's more of a drama thing
And you know this how?

Didn't see new thread... posted these in old one. Just didn't want them to disappear. Sage for double postish

>>713134
I hope it's the main character from Tresspasser... Those awkward controls mimicked in doom... Would be funny as fuck.

>half a clip
>4 left
>3
>2
>1
>empty

>>714516
I'm still here, but super busy with other things... Srrym8. It probably wouldn't be that hard to make yourself though if you have gimp/photoshit/paint.net

>>715093
Because drama is loud and easy to keep up with.

>>715095
>it probably wouldn't be that hard to make yourself though
I'm artistically retarded. I can't do anything right in that aspect. Anything you'd make, even if it was in a rush, would look better than my PoS. Send me an email though. I can make a persuasive offer of the century!

>>715104
Especially when it's nonexistent, right?

>>715035
I used MD2 Viewer 1.4 to view and capture player model rotations from Quake 2 models -- it's easy to use, and getting shots like the spritesheet you posted is relatively simple. Some of the real tricky stuff is polishing it, getting it into Doom, making it look right, and allowing the in-game color sliders to be used. I learned through analyzing existing skin files and changing things around until things worked.

I do know that based on what monster you want to replace you will need different frames; some monsters have more frames for attacking, like Barons, but no gib animation.

>>715108

I fucking loathe people like you.

You have done nothing but complain from day one about your supposed lack of artistic talents. People kept telling you that you don't need talent. You posted a sprite and people said that it's all right, we're not looking for good quality sprites.
Someone finally does something as an offer. You latch on to that like a fucking Metroid. Then when they say they're too busy, you want to keep at them? You want to "persuade" them?

Pic related.

>Filehosting in DRD is still down
>Even if it's back up, there's a high chance most of the stuff in there might not reappear

>>715079
>Open source projects do this kind of stuff often.
tbh i think free/open software projects fork more often than they merge

in the case of doom engines there has only really ever been one successful project merge (prboom+lxdoom+lsdldoom->prboom2)

>>715141
I am waiting for the pre-alpha DOOM stuff someone uploaded to there, but DRD are still down. They're moving, right? Howe much longer?

Oh man, if only...

>>715147

Forums are back up, but the filehosting service is still down

>>715167
Yeah, I know filehosting is still down. I was talking about the filehosting.

Where's that guy asking for spriters? I want him to take a look at this shit

See this? These are bronies, they're in Reelism, a Cacoward winner. While the concept of the mod isn't focused on having a good set of sprites, those chaingunner reskins were accepted by everyone with no complains.

It doesn't even matter if you go full Wolf3D format by not having rotations. the /pol/ wad didn't had the best sprites of the world too, and it was a fucking masterpiece.

>>715167
Without a helmet it looks an ugly confused guy with a mustache.

>>715195
>that resolution

God I knew tumblrfags were stupid, but still.

>>715195
>Reelism, a Cacoward winner
what year? i can't find it

>>715237
wait, never mind, i found it, it was last year

>>715195
>it was a fucking masterpiece.
Stretching it a bit here. Enjoyable is the word you want.

Ok, so unless someone knows of a decent way to force a player class in certain difficulties I'm just going to replace the healthbonus in S&D and Ultimate with an item that provides complete protection against the various floor damage types.

I have a request:

My pc is fucking around and now XWE wont work.
But I have to extract some fucking sprites from Witchaven to finish the Grondoval class for Samsara!
Could anyone:
- Install XWE
- Open the tiles
- Extract all pictures
- Zip and upload them somewhere?

I really need a few more sprites, i didnt extract them all before.
If anyone could do this, it'd be great and you will be credited too.

>>715313
>using XWE
But why?
Use SLADE 3

>>715323

>oodly

*oddly

>>715313

Good....now, just post that game somewhere...

>>715317

XWE oodly works with other formats that aren't supported by SLADE

>>715303
Actually, I might just learn some ACS for this, seems like a joke compared to C++ and Perl.
>>715323
You can probably just extract those other formats manually.

>>715323

http://www.mediafire.com/?qwj48yl98kgi959

If you dont know how to open dat shit

>start XWE as admin
>open tiles (should choose XWE supported file formats)
>choose correct palette
>choose save all images

You'd be my hero if you could do it

>>715123
It's a painful process for me to even create one sprite. It sucks up my time and I'm not afraid to admit that. I know what I"m good at and what I'm not. I wouldn't simply give someone a job and not return the favor.

I like to participate in the specialization in the division of labor. It's basic comparative advantage, anon. The most economic way to go about this isn't to spend hours on something I'm simply not good at. It's to pursue and persuade others with skills that I don't have to join me. Am I being persistent? Most definitely. Am I being a bit pathetic? Most probably. However, that's business for ya'. It's basic economics and that's how production gets done. It gets done through unorthodox methods, not by looking at someone from a hill top and throwing reaction faces at them whistle bitching and moaning about their advertising methods.

Get fucked.

>>715303
>>715332
>an item that provides complete protection against the various floor damage types
There are rad suits. It's the floors you HAVE to run on like Halls of the Damned which don't have protection.
Stick with trying to get the player to die in one shot by the monsters while everything else does what it's supposed to.

>>715347
>>715332
Isn't there a damagetype for damaging floors? If so, you can...
oh, wait, that's what you're trying to do, isn't it?

>>715337
>>715313
>>715323


Wait, I have a better idea

http://www.spriters-resource.com/pc_computer/witchaven/

>>715356

Well, that explains everything. Okay, trying it

>>715349

Nope.
There are missing sprites.
MANY SPRITES.
Like gib sprites for the blood and meat.

So no, fuck you.
Sorry if i hurt your feelings

>>715347
That is much easier said than done. My way will end up working if I can get it to.
>>715348
The problem with that is, a lot of those custom monsters use that the "fire" and "slime" damage types (and I'd rather not go through them all one by one). If my ACS script works it'll protect the player from floors and allow them to be killed by all monsters.

>>715342
And another thing. Everyone's busy. Everyone has an opportunity cost. Working with me absorbs time from whatever they wish to do. "I'm busy" means that his opportunity cost for working with me, for no favor in return, is awfully high. High by whatever metric you wish to use (don't use utils). However, you don't stop pursuing labor because it has a cost greater than zero. You offer opportunities, you offer benefits, you propose something that would make the opportunity cost of working with me seem much lower than it appears on the surface. It's economics, baby. Production doesn't start with everyone holding hands and agreeing on something the first instance. It gets started by making many transactions, and those transactions may only happen if you get down and grovel. Goals aren't done through class and style, they're done through hard work and persistence. Stop being a child. This is the real world.

>>715342
>It's a painful process for me to even create one sprite. It sucks up my time and I'm not afraid to admit that. I know what I"m good at and what I'm not. I wouldn't simply give someone a job and not return the favor.
>Get fucked.
You should just not bother at all. I'm not interested in it at all. Get the sprites, sonic-tier re-color them and copy and paste different parts of other monsters on them. You don't need to make anything from scratch, just download them and cut and paste. That requires no talent.
You can do the coding right, or do you need someone to do that too?

Above else, either shut up and do it or shut up and get lost.

>>715359
Just shut up.

>>715357
>That is much easier said than done
No. The easiest way is to make new actors for the modes, where they have 1hp and their regular hp. Their attacks do 999999999999999999999 damage. You take damage from floors, and die instantly from the monsters.

>>715342
>I like to participate in the specialization in the division of labor. It's basic comparative advantage, anon. The most economic way to go about this isn't to spend hours on something I'm simply not good at. It's to pursue and persuade others with skills that I don't have to join me. Am I being persistent? Most definitely. Am I being a bit pathetic? Most probably. However, that's business for ya'. It's basic economics and that's how production gets done. It gets done through unorthodox methods, not by looking at someone from a hill top and throwing reaction faces at them whistle bitching and moaning about their advertising methods.

It's a fucking Doom mod, not economics 101.

>>715359
>>715342

OH MAN LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT A SOCIAL EXPERT HERE

>>715359
>However, you don't stop pursuing labor because it has a cost greater than zero. You offer opportunities, you offer benefits, you propose something that would make the opportunity cost of working with me seem much lower than it appears on the surface. It's economics, baby.

it's you being a fag who can't take no for an answer.

>>715375
You do realize that's nearly 100 new actors when I could just as easily do this right?

Man, this is some neat shit rite here

This shouldn't take me more than 10 mins

>>715387
There's more than one way. I gave the simplest which has the least chance of fucking up. It may not be the most productive, but at least you're talking to someone who knows what they're talking about.

>>715392

herp, forgot pic

>>715108
Just so you know, none of these other messages are spriteguy. Just the first one about me being busy. But I am too busy. And making sprites eats up my time too.

>>715398

>320x200 Sky graphic
>BMP file
>approx 512 kB

This shit always drives me mad.

>>715359
>>715342
None of this has anything to do with the fact that you're being an annoying prick who apparently can't take criticism and wants people to do his work for him.

>>715363
>that requires no talent
Nothing requires talent, it requires skill. Even if it's bare minimum skill. I don't question your abilities and you shouldn't mind. I suck at anything that requires an ability to draw. Even simple editing I tend to mess up on. Visually speaking, I'm very short sighted and any attempt to look farther than 5 minutes when it comes to a sprite ends with a blank thought.

I can certainly code. I'm a damn good coder at that. I have experience in programming and I've been going at it for a good while. I can even make a few sound effects, albeit fairly primitive. However, I simply cannot do anything involving fine art.

I bring my resources to the table. Whether that be labor or even capital. I'm not an "idea guy."

>Shut up and do it or shut up and get lost.
Haha, you don't quite understand what the division in labor offers. Games, movies, bridges, buildings, factories, and even something as simple as a Doom mod are hardly ever done alone. Or if they are done alone then they're usually sub par. When you simply cannot do something and you see that you're being inefficient, then you search. You search hard and you engage in a mutually beneficial transaction. If admitting that you're bad at some things and good at other things is something to loath, then I'm surprised you're not constantly disgusted when you sit in your house. Because this entire society is the product of such actions.

Don't like my attitude? Well this labor market is fairly elastic, so frankly I do not care.

>>715424
>even something as simple as a Doom mod are hardly ever done alone. Or if they are done alone then they're usually sub par.

You are as wrong as you are pretentious.

>>715226
Go back to /v/

OH MY GOD

PLEASE TELL ME SOMEONE HAS MADE HER FOR DOOM, JUST LOOK AT IT, IT'S PERFECT

>Game is Powerslave, by the way

>>715390
I can take no for an answer, but I don't just drop an opportunity the second someone declines my offer.

>>715406
Have any projects that you're working on? I can participate in helping you script or make a map. I might also be able to pay with cash if I get this full time job this summer.

>>715421
I can take criticism. I'm bad, I'm awful at drawing. There, I admit that. But I don't want people to do my work for me for free. I don't want charity (well I do, but I don't see that as being realistic). I want to trade.

>>715342
That kind of mindset applies to more modern game engines where the labor is intensive and learning everything is difficult and time-consuming; that doesn't really apply to Doom modding, where any jackass with some free time can quickly learn how to modify the oodles of existing sprite and audio assets to suit his needs. And as others have mentioned, the /pol/ map featured some really goofy sprite work and was fine for it, mainly because the guy made a great map for it in the first place; the custom assets were really just icing on the cake.

Hell, here's a rework of a plasma rifle I got from another mod, which I recolored to make it more fitting alongside the other weapons I'm using in a mod I'm working on. Took me a few hours, but the results are worth it, and this is from someone who is by all means totally incompetent at any true sprite art work. You learn to do what you can, and get better at it over time. Experience is the key, and you only get it by putting in the effort in the first place, not by whining about how you can't do anything to people on the internet.

>>715424
>>715406
Just reiterating. I wasn't nearly as annoyed as other anons were. I'm not about to flip a shit over someone looking for help. Though you could just cut/past images that suit your needs. And I can't imagine what you would be able to offer me that would make it worth my time other than money (the only thing I'm truly lacking at the moment, either that or a decent job).

>>715424
>You search hard and you engage in a mutually beneficial transaction
Searching hard =/= e-begging in a Doom thread
engage in a mutually beneficial transaction (god damn so much faggotry) =/= OH YOU'RE TOO BUSY LET ME BEG YOU MORE

>If admitting that you're bad at some things and good at other things is something to loath
What I loathe is how much of an insufferable stuck-up cunt you're being

>Well this labor market is fairly elastic
yeah good fucking luck finding someone willing to respond to your e-begging for sprites now.

>>715431
They're sub-par relative to other mods. They might be amazing feats from the perspective of one individual, but comparative advantage is a law that we all have to live by. Bobby might be an amazing man, able to program, draw, and even make music; however, he would be much more efficient and productive if he specialized in what he was best at and left those other jobs to other people.

>>715410
>>715337
Archive's coming in 5 mins, if I ever figure out how to properly give links to dropbox and if connection won't turn shitty though .

>>715452
You are still as wrong as you are pretentious, given the sheer amount of incredible one-man mods out there.

>>715445
Sending email. If, for no other reason, to get this out of the doom thread. The petty bickering has gone on a bit too long :-p

>>715446

but it's so much easier to beg and then throw out economic terms whenever people call you on it
YOU'RE HURTING THE DIVISION OF LABOR

>>715398
>>715410

Doom surely spawned a good bunch of "clones" following his success. Many of them were pretty well done, others just sucked, and Witchaven is one of them, if not the worst.

Many of the textures were plain photos scanned into the game, same with the objects. And just take a look at this

>That death sequence

>>715424
>Don't like my attitude? Well this labor market is fairly elastic, so frankly I do not care.
Neither do we. Why do you think no-one is helping you? Stop this pointless shit. This is my last response. Take this, I was willing to help. But you started coming off as arrogant, and now I've had enough of this. Why are you talking like we're getting paid? This is for fun. This is for making something for people who love it; and you're talking about labor and economics. Quite frankly, if I didn't know any better I'd say you're in damage control mode. Instead of listening to people who are telling you something, you're lashing out at anyone who gives you attention. I gave you a simple idea. It's silly. You're silly. This whole thing is silly, and when you say stuff which like these responses to yourself to make yourself clear, like this: >>715447
>Just reiterating. I wasn't nearly as annoyed as other anons were. I'm not about to flip a shit over someone looking for help.
No-one is mad, maybe you're crazy. We're giving you cold hard facts, we're saying "enough". We don't want to here it, we just want you to either do it or shut up. That's not being angry.

No-one wanted to help you, those who did (like me) certainly do not want to now. So just stop. Go to bed. Do something productive. In the time you've cried about this, you could've made one monster. I asked if you were going to code it, I even used a picture of Bruce who is smiling. Why would I be mad? I attempted to acknowledge it, I attempted to help. But I'm sick of hearing posters openly admit "Yeah, I'm lazy but I want someone to help me"

Why is there so much drama? All I want is to make a point. But I am just responded to with nonsense and foolishness. I was hoping /vr/ would host something better, but I get zandronum/skulltag tier stupidity and bickering.

I'm saying right now: either make them, or stop. this. No-one is going to help you from the way you're acting unless you apologize.

you have a huge opportunity cost! that means you have huge labour offers! divide and share!

>>715473
Didn't Doom use alot of photos?

>>715483
Yes, but it also modified them.

anyway, the current doom scene, like the open source scene it is related to, is a gift economy, not a fiscal one, so free market capitalist economics theory doesn't apply

>>715473
>Those death frames
>These /v/ babby dramafags shitting up the thread

>>715446
It applies to anything that takes up time and resources. The inefficiencies are just more apparent when the size of the project scales. Though you're right, experience is key. My time preference is fairly low, so I can waste time practicing; but, I'd much prefer working with someone and get good content out quicker.

>>715451
>Searching hard =/= e-begging in a Doom thread
It's not begging when you offer something in return, at least by my definition.

>What I loathe is how much of an insufferable stuck-up cunt you're being
Being a cunt is looking at someone's creation and saying, "That's shit," in front of their face. Making 2 or 3 posts asking for help and then offering something in return is not. However, you've had a stick up your ass the entire time I've been here.

>yeah good fucking luck finding someone willing to respond to your e-begging for sprites now.
Drama can pass by fairly quickly, you'd be surprised.

>>715447
I can offer you something. I have a bit of money saved up and I'm not spending it on much. It's not going to be a high pay, or even minimum wage, but I can "buy" completed sprites for some cash. If we can't negotiate something, then I'll drop it.

>>715483

Yeah, but at least they had a decent group of graphical assets to make them blend with the rest of the environment

Meanwhile other games were just "HEY SO I HERD THEY USED CLAY MODELS FOR TEH ENEMIES Y DON'T WE USE THE SAME THING GUISE"

And they all suck. Same with the textures. Let's say you want to make your bedroom in Doom. By following the Witchaven method, you would snap a picture of your bed and insert it into the game, with no graphical retouch or anything

>>715496
I sent an email. At the very least it should be dropped from the doom thread. Don't get your hopes up though.

Alright, my ACS is working. I'm going through Halls of the Damned specifically to test it. Good level suggestion by the way.

>>715473
> And just take a look at this. That death sequence
nice tits though

>>715496
>>715452
>>715445
>>715424
>>715359
>>715342

itt one person backpedals wildly to justify his shitty attitude for begging for free sprites for his free 4chan mod for a 20 year old game

>>715492

>>715410
>>715337
>>715313
Here you go, all 2608 graphic files ripped from those .art files.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bh4gqbly3zs6j15/WZJ4jSFVSS/LOLPICS.zip

>>715509

>"Why am I doing this"
>"This feels so awkward"
>"Get into modelling, they said; they won't hire you to make some shitty poses for a crappy PC game, they said"
>"I wish I was in my house, watching Xena and going to parties"

>>715473

I know, but Witchaven just had a great atmosphere.
And the menu of Witchaven was the best part.
Every fucking time you pressed a key, you heard a monster growl or die, like:

>Press up button
GROAAAAAARRRR
>up
RAWWWRRRR
>left
MOARWRWRRRWR
>right
GRUNTTTTTTT
>enter
MUAHAHAHAH
>escape
WARGABL

>>715357
>The problem with that is, a lot of those custom monsters use that the "fire" and "slime" damage types (and I'd rather not go through them all one by one). If my ACS script works it'll protect the player from floors and allow them to be killed by all monsters.

So just ctrl+f "fire" and "slime" and change all instances in the monster actors to "monsterfire" and "monsterslime" (or whatever). Then create a new playerclass for the mode that has damagefactor "slime", 0 and damagefactor "fire", )

>>715359
>>715342
>>715424

When I made the shrek actor for pol.wad, I used sprites ripped from GBA game. Because the game was a sidescoller, shrek didn't have any sprites that aren't facing to the side. Because of this, when he runs at the player it looks like he's waltzing or dancing a jig. People still thought it was hilarious.

For a WAD that's meant to be humorous you don't have to have AAA level work, anon.

>>715509
Sigourney Weaver sure had interesting side projects

>>715498
Thinking about it, the Spider Mastermind is the only monster that actually looks like a model, and that's just because of the legs

>>715528
The ACS was quicker and seems to work just as well. That was my next thing I was going to try.

>>715520
I wish I was in my house, watching Xena and going to parties

Fuck yeah Xena... I'd play a xena mod. Throwing a shakram(sp?fuckit), stabbing bitches, jump flipping, going AYAYAYAYAYAYA...

Coop with Gabriel, secret lesbian level... Aries is the boss... ... Yeah.

>>715516
O-oh my, these are incredible.
D-do you think you could do Powerslave or Exhumed, please?

>>715473
>>715492
>>715509

Witchaven, more like Shithaven, amirite, guise?

>>715531

All these years, and no Xena TC for Doom? 90's Doom modding community, I am dissapoint

>>715463
How is that wrong? That's basic comparative advantage. Even in situations of absolute advantage, transactions are still preferred for economic efficiency. Simply stating I'm wrong doesn't change that fact.

>>715476
>Why are you talking like we're getting paid?
Because I'm ready to offer a pay. Even if it's nothing wild.

>Instead of listening to people who are telling you something
Have you ever called your local ISP because your internet went down and they told you to reboot your modem even though you've already done it a million of times? The suggestions offered have been tried numerous times in the past. I even tried again on this recent project just to see if I was underestimating myself. That was wrong. I asked for help, even offered something in return and all I've gotten is butthurt by 2 or 3 individuals that don't like that I'm posting more than once per thread.

Let me tell you a story. Back in high school I was in a pottery class. Everything I did somehow screwed up. I was given the job of making a simple plate out of a slab of clay and I even messed that up. It wasn't flat at all and by the time I realized what I had done, the clay had dried up and it wasn't usable anymore. The art teacher asked, "How did you do this?" I replied, "I'm simply bad at art." It's a fact. Anything that requires a large amount of visual perception to get right, I screw up on. Even editing sprites usually end in Doom. I admit this, I get over it. People are good at some things and bad at others. The second step is to find a substitute. If I can't draw then someone else can. And so this is the first stop. If you wish to be self-sufficient then that's fine with me, but don't tell me to become self-sufficient when there's no necessity to.

>>715536
here comes the night train (with Lenin aboard)! BONK.

>>715536
>How is that wrong?
>...given the sheer amount of incredible one-man mods out there.
HOLY SHIT
ARE YOU DENSE AS WELL AS STUPID?

Halls of the damned completed. Not a single death to floor issues. Plenty to imps though. This'll be in the next version. Thanks for reminding me about that issue to the guy who was semi-complaining about it.

>>715559
Either way, thank you. I'd probably have forgotten about it.

>>715550
why is there a floating hangman on that level?

>>715550
I wasn't complaining. I just thought you may have thought it through, and since you didn't I made a point.

>>715550
>>715559
>>715560
It just makes the mod impossible, and not playable, that's all. But that's good it's fixed. Progress is progress.

>>715536
> That's basic comparative advantage. Even in situations of absolute advantage, transactions are still preferred for economic efficiency.

we're still talking about
free doom mods, right

>>715553
When compared to mods made by teams, they are not. Are you retarded? Do you not understand that while bobby might be good at a lot of things, it's still more efficient for him to work on one thing? How can you write when you can't read?

Those raised chaingun and rocket launcher sprites. Is there a way to do that in game or would I need decorate?

>>715535
Unfortunately I don't have files from which I could rip graphics and I'm not sure if XWE have necessary palettes.

>>715558
Hell corruption, it's getting worse as the episode continues..........

actually i suspect that room just didn't have a sky ceiling when it was first made; it's one of the oldest ones, originally made for episode 1 by Tom Hall after he visited an actual military base to get ideas. but they thought it was boring to play and tossed it out of episode 1. see also E3M3 which is a base retextured as a hell map.

>>715564
You have no clue what you're talking about. Just...just stop, man. Just drop it already.

>>715564
>When compared to mods made by teams, they are not.

Oh jesus.
This just in, people, everything made by a team is inherently better than being made by a single person!
You hear that? KDIZD is way better than Scythe and Scythe II! Doom Revolutions is fucktons better than Thunderpeak!
WE HAVE BEEN PLAYING DOOM WRONG ALL THESE YEARS

>>715563
Lack of monetary reward does not mean that you aren't willing to invest resources into a project to get a profit. Though that's usually the norm.

Anyways, I've gone on tangents, so it's starting to stray from Doom.

>>715564
>singleman mods not incredible
>NOT INCREDIBLE

gee and here i was having fun playing nazis
better pack it up for aeons of shit

>>715571
Technically you can still play on UV anything without on shot kills.

/v/ really has taken over

>>715589
or*

>>715564
the most fun to play* megawads are made by one or two people who know what they're doing. plutonia, scythe, tvr, ksutra, etc.

megawads made by lots of people tend to have a couple of great maps (again made by people who know what they're doing) and a lot of mediocre ones.

_________
* YMMV on what you consider "fun to play" of course.

>>715564

>>715578
I'm not going to argue over your subjective preferences mods, but mods with teams have more and better content (in terms of assets) pumped out than by single individuals. It's just the division of labor doing it's job.

>>715509

>>715564
You are so full of it that it's coming out your ears. By that logic, Chex Quest 3 is so much worse than the previous ones, huh?

>>715605

>>715605

10/10

>>715605
*in borat voice* very nice

>>715604
>but mods with teams have more and better content (in terms of assets) pumped out than by single individuals.
You
are
the
DENSEST
most
PRETENTIOUS
motherfucker
i have
eve

>>715605
oh hey tits

>>715605

>>715605
I laughed.

I have not played DOOM in many years. Is there any mods or anything I should add to it? Any good recommendations?

Thanks!

>>715564
Frankly, I'd say on the contrary. Many of the most memorable mods and megawads are entirely one-man efforts, while plenty of the R667 projects, despite having large ensembles of developers (for Doom mods) tend to be seen as sub-par by the larger community. Just peruse the Cacowards and see the number of one-man efforts that get accolades for their top-notch quality, and you'll quickly see that the number of developers has little bearing on quality for Doom mods.

Again, as I said, Doom modding doesn't require nearly as much work to learn and accomplish. You don't need lots of people to delegate tasks to in order to get things done in a reasonable time frame with good quality. Instead of whining about how we don't agree with your capitalist whatever view on task delegation, efficiency, and whatever other nonsense, take the time to start learning some of these skills and you can get started.

And, I'll be frank here - all this yammering about needing sprite artists and whatnot tells me you're far more focused on that than the meat of any wad - the gameplay. You should be wary of falling for the same trap so many first-time modders step into, that is getting focused on various gimmicks to make the mod, rather than keeping the basic gameplay and level design in mind. All the sprite artists in the world wont help your mod if you don't have something fun as a foundation to hold the whole thing together.

>>715625

Try FKER and Fractal Doom, I don't have the links for the updated versions of them, tho

>>715601
my god... some of the things that pass for Doom these days...

>>715601
What in the flying fuck is that?
>>715625
Zandronum Version:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sstdx2nhsqprw5i

GZDoom Version:
http://www.mediafire.com/?4kcjk1cc1qw0539

For FKER, but be aware that for the next couple hours, S&D and Ultimate difficulties are a bit broken due to floor damage killing you in one hit. Play on Ultraviolence and you'll have no issues.

>>715583
I'm an economics major, I better know about the law of comparative advantage.

>>715591
I'm not saying they're not incredible. I'm just saying, when you compare them to mods made by entire teams, then they're not as good in terms of assets. I can't say on gameplay, because that's a highly subjective art form which cannot be analyzed objectively very well.

>>715596
Fun is subjective. I'm talking about the objective side of things.

>>715603
Chex Quest 3 took 10 years. If the Chex Quest team had 10 years then they would have made something a lot more advanced than Chex Quest. It's a poor comparison not to mention that most of the improvements were made on the art side and, surprise surprise, Chex Quest 3 was made by the lead artist of Chex Quest 1 & 2.

>>715604
>>715564

Hello, don't mind me.
Just being a ONE MAN PROJECT
WHICH IS ALSO ONE OF THE BEST WADS
Have a nice day.

>>715536
>How is that wrong? That's basic comparative advantage. Even in situations of absolute advantage, transactions are still preferred for economic efficiency. Simply stating I'm wrong doesn't change that fact.

What applies to interchangeable products (which is what economic theory assumes is being compared, not unique items) does not necessarily apply to art, which is where your assumption fails. Sometimes it does, but it cannot be applied consistently.

A single person can make "good" art better than a group of people can. Sometimes not. Sometimes a person that can make good art consistently can't make good art anymore. Sometimes someone that makes crap art will make a once-in-a-lifetime masterpiece and not be able to create anything else as good. Etc, etc.

>>715631
>I'm an economics major
yeah that was pretty obvious. i'm a math major but i don't go around trying to equate doom modding with prime numbers and the Riemann hypothesis

>>715614
No, you're just unable to understand very basic micro principles.

>>715619
They're sub-par in the gameplay department because people bicker over what should be included. They're not subpar in the actual asset department.

>>715631
You do realize that for every post you make here, you're NOT making the wad that you want to make?

>>715631
AAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAH

>MUH ECONOMICS MAJOR

REALLY
REALLY
REALLY
REALLY???????

>>715631
>>715604
>>715580
>>715564
>>715536
>>715496
>>715452
>>715451
>>715445
>>715424
>>715359
>>715342

so how long until you take your own advice and stop trying to stray the topic?

>>715632
That's Samsara, right? That's Terminus and Ijon, so it's a two-man team.

Still, not like they've got an army of sprite artists at their beck and call, they just do what they can with what they've got, and they're careful to make sure they do it right. Which is really all you need to make a _good_ mod for Doom.

>>715632
*2 man

>>715646
if everyone simultaneously reports all those posts you linked to, will the mods notice and wipe them?

So, what's your favorite non id or build 90's FPS?

>>715625
Download Zandronum to play online if you don't have a source port, or try GZDoom and the fancy mods like Reelism or Russian Overkill.

You can play some of the mods online in Zandronum, /vr/ has some servers running Samsara, BURL TUMD, as well as some mods that kind of require multiple people like the mario party-ish minigames or Who Dun It

>>715650
>>715651

Actually, Samsara was one man until 0.27. That's when ijon came in.
So yeah it was still pretty fucking rad before, testament to one-man power.

>>715582
I didn't even think about that. Isn't it the one with the marines playing cards. either way I can presume the rope is extending out of view, or just hell demon stuff

>>715653
I fucking hope so.

>>715653
Yes

>>715509

>>715640
>interchangeable products
Intangible goods are a product of labor. They might be non-rivalrous, but they're products of labor (which is a scarce).

>Sometimes it does
I don't get how it can be applied.

>A single person can make "good" art better than a group of people can
This can happen in nearly any sector if the conditions are right. If I give Bobby 10 years to make a painting while I give a team of guys 5 days, then of course Bobby will win. He might not be as good as the others combined, but he has the time. It's a battle of resources. Time, money, labor, et cetera.

>Sometimes someone that makes crap art will make a once-in-a-lifetime masterpiece and not be able to create anything else as good.
Subjectively speaking, that can happen. However, from the objective side (the formalistic side of art), this isn't very true. A master piece isn't necessarily defined by its skill as a crafted work, but by how it communicates to the audience. Hemmingway couldn't write prose for shit, but at least he was able to express meaningful themes to a very wide audience. Sorry I transferred the example to writing, but I have a better grasp of writing than of fine art.

>>715653
Please do.

>>715636
>>715628
ZDoom Wars, niggers.
Awesome.

>>715628
>muhpurity.jpg

>>715646
Fine, I'll stop, but the argument for everyone to be self-sufficient is one that bugs me quite a lot.

GUYS

DOOM

PRETTY AWESOME, HUH

>>715649
Marathon by far

>>715698
YEAH MAN!
>>715706
Try Sunder.

Where can I download some maps with tons of monsters?

>>715667
http://www.doomworld.com/pageofdoom/olddoom.html
says that the one with marines playing cards is level 1 of alpha4, but it doesn't say what map that ended up as in the final version; either way the card playing marines are not in the final version

>>715640 here again

Another way you're misapplying your econ textbook knowledge is you're thinking that the scale of a doom wad is on the level of building a ship or manning a factory or just the economy at large.

Sure, it makes more sense for the sous chef to hire somebody to mow his lawn than it does for him to do it himself, but it'll be perfectly efficient for him to cook his own meals.

What you're doing is saying that he can't possibly cook his soup as well as a team could, because he isn't as efficient at pot-stirring or vegetable chopping as someone that specializes only in pot-stirring or vegetable chopping.

Can it be screenshot time?

>>715661
>>715636
>>715630

Thanks.

>>715715
I'm pretty sure it turned into e2m7, that silver. either way I asked a question in jest and got an educated answer, so I'm happy.

>>715730
Just play Sonic the Hedgehog then...

Guys, can we get a Cyberrunner server going sometime?
I miss going fast

>>715715
wait, forget that, i found the more indepth alpha page
http://toastytech.com/dooma/alpha4.html

How do I play a wad with the weapons from Russian Overkill? I want to play the Sunder maps with the RO weapons.

>>715725

HAND ME THAT FUCKER NOW

I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR HIM SINCE MONTHS!

>>715649
Dark forces maybe? I guess if you're counting all of the 90's then it's a landslide for Unreal, but I assumed we were going with the more 2.5D games.

>>715732
That map is the Spawning Vats.

>>715735
Sanic doesn't even run that fast. Mario moves faster, sonics camera is just zoomed in so it seems faster.

>>715739
Yeah, I should've said 2.5d

>>715683
>This can happen in nearly any sector if the conditions are right. If I give Bobby 10 years to make a painting while I give a team of guys 5 days, then of course Bobby will win. He might not be as good as the others combined, but he has the time. It's a battle of resources. Time, money, labor, et cetera.

No, Bobby can make a better painting in 5 days than a team of guys in five days if Bobby has a good idea for a painting or is more inspired than the other guys. This is assuming they're all at the same level of competence and experience, but could hold true even if they're more experienced. This also isn't taking into account whether or not the 5 guys will work well together or whether they can produce a coherent piece from 5 different viewpoints.

This does not hold true for other jobs where quality isn't subjective and doesn't widely vary. You don't need to be inspired to make good welds or paint the outside of a building. You just need to be competent. And in those cases, having more competent individuals involved in the project will result in a better project 99% of the time.

Also see >>715712

>>715732
>I asked a question in jest and got an educated answer
i'll take that as a compliment, thank you!

>>715747
>>715739

Actually I take mine back. System Shock.

>>715745
Then play Mario...
Fucker

>>715672

>>715712
I am saying that. A team will be able to pop out soups of the same quality quicker. Though with mowing his lawn, I'm not saying that the results won't be sufficient for him. I'm just saying the use of his time (assuming that he has expendable monetary funds) will be a poor allocation of resources. When we abstract down to daily chores, the costs become marginalized. When you scale up production, then it becomes a problem. The content I want in my wad tells me that I'll probably need to outsource labor. People here just want to create fun wads for themselves, and that's okay; however, what I wish to do is probably going to require another person else I won't be satisfied with the product or the costs I had to endure to make sprites.

I'll stop this conversation here. Even I know when to drop something.

Am I the only one that thinks Tchernobog is just the Cyberdemon in disguise?

>>715776
i doubt it, i mean horned goat headed monster things go back a lot further than doom if you know what i mean.

Where can I find announcer packs for Zandronum? I had to delete and reinstall fresh to fix an issue that popped up and I lost my announcer pack in the process. I kinda wanna find that again.

>>715730
Hard as it might be, be patient. Two more maps for Cyberrunner are in active development. Once we release, more will likely come.

Of course both Term and I are currently busy being storyfags as well, so who knows.

>>715804

This is the only pack you need

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m3sdaokkpy5fqiz/announcer.zip

It has the last Skulltag announcer (the Quake/UT knockoff) AND the Quake 3 announcer

Anyone know how to write macro commands for GZDoom? Preferably without relying on external programs, but I will if I have to (Just for some Russian Overkill silliness, not to be a fuckass in multi or hax).

Things like an extremely quick ASDWWW mouse 1 input (quick enough that it wouldn't trigger noticeable movement from the character, anyway)?

I know, some of you already know exactly where I'm going with this

>>715741
found a funny picture on that site

some lovely /v/irgin just made this in

>>191170638

>>715824

Let me try to fix it

>>>/v/191170638

>>715830

Thanks I'm pretty stupid

>>715819
Use aliases.

// Moves left for 8 tics, waits 8 tics, moves right for 8 tics
alias herpaderp "+moveleft; wait 8; -moveleft; wait 8; +moveright; wait 8; -moveright"

>>715818
No, it's not. The pack I'm looking for is by BouncyTEM, but I can't find it with Google and I dunno where the fuck else I could even look.

>>715824
there's a wad with a bunch of marines doing a silly dance in a disco, i think enjay made it but i can't remember its name

>>715742

Hold control, click RO wad and then sunder wad.

Drag to source port of choice (i.e. GZDoom, Zandronum)

sunder is overrated as a monster killing wad, there's far too much annoying pillar jumping and other stuff that just makes it frustrating rather than fun. although i do like the first map (python, the green one). all my opinion of course, feel free to disagree

>>715707
I've been meaning to play that, is it one of those games that starves you on ammo?

>>715738
Couldn't find it on Google, so I put it in my dropbox.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/42338465/gangsta_grosse.wad

>>715832
Well, I don't know what that means - but at least it gives me terms to start searching on, thanks IT.

>>715871
*in tony montana voice* say hello to mah lidduh fren'

>>715867
It really isn't, especially when you play on the lower difficulties.

>>715867

Funny thing is, the difficulty changes the max amount of ammo you carry.

>>715535
Here you go.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bh4gqbly3zs6j15/AzF0lDoZ0I/powerslave.zip
Also, if you ever wondered why there's "slave" in it's name...

>>715891
Huh.
I assume that the difficulty changes the amounts of enemies and relative damage too, right?

>>715896
Why do sprite sheets always use cyan?

>>715903
believe it's the official "Don't use this color as part of the sprite" color. Kinda like greenscreens.

>>715903
Doom format. Its sort of a sentinel color that tells what not to draw on the screen and what to draw, if my meager knowledge holds true.

>>715903
Cyan becomes transparent in doom or something

>>715876

MAN I GOTTA SHIIT

>>715876

OH MY GOD THANK YOU HAVE MUH BABBIES

>>715896
HORY SHET
YES PLEASE
THANK YOU SO MUCH

>>715903
cyan is a colour that does not exist in the doom palette and has become a convention to use it to mean "transparent"; although there is nothing that requires it (in fact deutex uses #002f2f by default instead)

Where can I download Brutal Doom Lite? I can't find a download that isn't dead.

How do I get gud and find secrets in doom? Any tips besides looking for off-coloured walls and shit?

>>715845
well i can't find a working download for the wad* but i found the sprite...

_________
* http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/759253 is where it was posted, but the link is dead

>>715931
unfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunf

Also you could try looking at the map, sometimes colors are mismatched there, or look for "indicators" like a big hallway leading to what is apparently nothing. That's about it.

>>715896
Finally, a Powerslave rip that isn't shit!
You are awesome, anon.

>>715940
where is it

>>715931
>look at dead ends
>find routes to inaccessible items
>backtrack if you hear something open

>>715927

Just get the Ketchup mod that Sgt. Mark did and call it BD lite

>>715945
with a bit more searching i found a flash rendition. still not found the actual wad though

http://funkydoom.ytmnd.com/

>>715896

Hmm. How difficult was it to rip those?
I'm curious about making a Powerslave add-on for Samsara, but I'm not sure if it'd be easy to grab the sounds or not.

Zandronum Version:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sstdx2nhsqprw5i

GZDoom Version:
http://www.mediafire.com/?4kcjk1cc1qw0539

1.10

- Fixed S&D and Ultimate modes a bit. You won't get gibbed by floors anymore, or even damaged by them. Consider it an advantage you get for being so fucking hardcore. (GZDoom Only)
- Added M_DOOM graphic
- Fixed any remaining instances of improper infighting
- Finally fixed the name of Diabloist.wad
- Converted all chances to work on percentages (for easier reading)


At this point I feel that this mod is more or less feature complete, I'll be focusing more on polish and bugfixes from now on.

>>715960
WAHT ARE YOU DOIN' IN MY SWAMP?

Anybody want to play some multiplayer?

>>715896
i'm with >>715965
would be awesome to have jon

>>715963

BD's gore effects are better than Ketchup, it doesn't really make up for it.

>>715985
>all that BLOOM

>>716043
It actually looks fairly good ingame, but the bloom isn't a part of FKER. It's a separate DLL.

>>716030

Anyone know where I can get Brutal Doom Lite?

3D floors are now supported by Cyberrunner more-or-less completely! Unfortunately, there are a few technical limitations to be aware of.

- 3D floors less than 16 units wide on the Z axis will sometimes not register collisions. The thinner, the less likely you'll collide.
- 3D floors bound to the same sector that are less than 16 units apart have undefined behavior. Do not rely on them.
- 3D floors touching the floor cannot be walljumped off of. This is due to the 3D floor check only going down, since it's a pretty expensive check.
- Non-solid 3D floors can be walljumped off of. There is no way to detect if a 3D floor is solid. If there was, I wouldn't have to create the damn 3D floor checking ACS.

It's a shame that these limitations are in place, but it's the best we have. Regardless, the addition of 3D floors to Cyberrunner's repertoire vastly extends the possibilites maps can take.

pic related: the code to do this

>>716104
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/42338465/BrutalDoomLite.pk3

Any good recommendations for music to rip and tear to? (besides the OST of course)

>>716159

Jimmy's Jukebox

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=29117

And you don't need anything else.

>>716045
Bloom is awesome.

>>716162

Thanks, but why are the blood sprites all flickering when I move? And does BD Lite not have all the animations and stuff that standard BD has, because they seem not to be there.

>>716186
Of course it doesn't, the Lite version is made for compatibility with other mods and maps that have extra creatures.

>>716190
hence its eventual replacement with ketchup, a gore-only mod, i guess.

in fact, does ketchup officially supersede bd-lite? i wouldn't be surprised if it did

>>716201
No idea, I don't personally use either mod.

>>716204
sorry for the misunderstanding, i wasn't asking you specifically, i should have added a "does anyone know if..." in there

>>716201
>does ketchup officially supersede bd-lite?
Yes. BD lite is discontinued and unsupported.

>>715776

>>716159
>>716165
Get the user jukebox and put some Dethklok on it.

Demon Dogpile, get the Hell in here.
:: [BE] New York :: /vr/ Demon Dogpile!
108.61.83.66:15079

>>715871
My sides

>>716183
What settings do you suggest

>>716406
Bloom=1
BloomDarken=6
BloomSteps=32
BloomScale=6

Emboss=1
EmbossScale=0.1

How do I remove a server from best. ever?

Been fiddling with this thing for hours...

>>716604

".killmine"

Is there a single reason to choose ZDoom over GZDoom?

>>716627

Compatibility issues in certain WADS

For example, final bossfight in ZDCMP2 is broken in GZDoom for no raisin

>>716627
Sometimes, it's got more current code when gzdoom hasn't had time to catch up.

>>716627
It's updated more frequently on the SVN.
That's about it.

Cyberfunner

>>716731
muh dick

>>716731
Hello there, boner, good to see you too.

>>716731
Inb4 posters begging to increase her bust size.

She looks hot by the way.

>>716183
What is this Bloom? Can I get a download link?

>>716731
>>716747
I thought we settled on three breasts

>>716731
>dat slim figure
>dem curvys
>dose breasts
>dat patterning
>dat sexy laugh

MmmMMMmmmMMMmmMMmmMmMMmMMMMMmm

>>716754
>dat elongated human skull

>>716747
Let their pleads fall upon deaf ears... Mine. Well, I'm not really deaf, but it's not happening.

>>716765
>human

>>716772
Of course.

>>716731
>>716772

/r/ing pinup pose

>>716772

>>716772
>dem hexagons
MUH DIIIIIIIIIICK

>>716772
I'm fapping with Lotion!
I got a handfull of dick and a head full of dat ass!

>>716772
>>716731

Why is it always robot girls?
Why can't I ever get boners for human girls?

>>716772
>>716731

>>716794
Human's aren't augmented enough

>>716789
Alright. Once she's rigged I'll do that.

>>716798
I will buy you a lifetime supply of beers, bro.

>>716783
>>716789
>>716790
>>716793
>>716794
Do you really all get so excited over a 3d model? I realized it is based off of a human form, but it isn't as great as you all make it.

>>716772
baby c'mere and let me upgrade you.

>>716807
Yeah? Where do you live, because I drink a lot. Not sure it'll be in your best interests financially.

>>716812
Some people have odd fetishes. Who are we to judge.

>>716812
its the joke, we all HNNG over cyberrunner

>>716812
My libido knows no boundaries.
Also, this is 4chan, there are people here that get off on weirder stuff.

>>716824
Point taken.

>>716772

>>716731
>>716772

guys
i want her to ride me while laughing over and over

is something wrong with me

anyone hosting anything?

>>716868
yes

>>716731
>>716772
Holy cow, holy shit!

>>716868

Ye--no?
You know, I don't fucking know anymore.

>>716748
Sorry this is so late.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/wj1nh1capq9s2w1/OpenGLHacksForGZdoomZandronum.zip

I believe that's what I'm using.

>Dude makes an "ugh" tier player sprite for Doom (pic related)
>Gets constructive criticism regarding sprite movement in the Zandro forums

http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=754

>Goes "no u", "fuck da haterz"
>Gets more heat by bringing unnecessary stuff to the thread
>Ragequits HARD, changes his user title to "F*** YOU ALL! I'M DONE!"

http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=754&pid=34594#pid34594

>He has a dA account as well and posts this

http://thebestmltbm.deviantart.com/journal/F-ZANDRONUM-FORUMS-373647139

>And this

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/102/3/4/my_note_to_the_haters_by_thebestmltbm-d61fsq5.gif

I'm getting too black for this shit

>>716930

>http://thebestmltbm.deviantart.com/journal/F-ZANDRONUM-FORUMS-373647139

>Eating: Cereal
>Drinking: Water

WAIT, NO

WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

THEY DON'T MIX WELL

>>716930
I think I'm already too black for this shit.

>>716930
>his fucking cacodemon drawing
Its face just screams "u havin a giggle m8?".

>>716930
I know I've posted this before multiple times, but this happened too around the same time he initially posted this skin - and some other projects that were likewise "ugh"-tier.

the lel never ends, as they say.

>>716941
Oh, and relevant DA post:

http://thebestmltbm.deviantart.com/journal/I-Don-t-want-to-live-on-this-forum-anymore-319252898

I wish I actually was making this up. I kind of really do.

>>716930
>fat_15_year_old.rtf

All this made me laugh far too hard.

>>716930
>http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/102/3/4/my_note_to_the_haters_by_thebestmltbm-d61fsq5.gif

CRAWLING IN MY SKIIIIIIN

>>716930
>first word of the first reply in that thread
all that needed to be said

>>716930
>chuck the badass chicken
>Likes: Gyms, Guns, and fighting against the Touhou Gangs just for fun
>Catchphrise: Cocka-doodle-doo scumbags, The Yolks on you.


There's not enough lel in the world to describe this.

>>716930
You know, having read all that, I can't help but feel that this could be a master ruseman. It's just too perfect.

>>716772

>>716961
Look at his DA page.
It isn't.

>>716930
i think we need more church in schools.

DOOM church

>>716971
It could be that he just set all of this up specifically to fuck with... I know you're probably right, but it still reeks of rusing. Maybe because he's probably like 12.

>>716978
There's no way he's out of puberty.
No way.

>>716985
I agree, even then he's amazingly retarded if he's serious. I mean, when I was 12 I did some stupid shit (The internet was barely a thing then though) but nothing remotely on this level.

>>716994
There's some stupid people out there.
Like this swine.
Worst I ever did was trace images to put on DA and having Dr. Pepper as my go-to drink of choice.

>>716930

>http://thebestmltbm.deviantart.com/journal/F-ZANDRONUM-FORUMS-373647139

Oh he posted a video too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmjEoNAGvuw

>Comments disabled

Just like his spriting habilities

>>716960
These remind me of the Autism Generals on /vp/

Good times

>>716731
The more I look at this.. the more I think something is wrong.

Can we have a side view?

>>717001

>>716996
The worst thing I ever did was not find 4chan until 2009.


Also related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZawNatdVdI

>>717006

>>716930
Holy crap

Oh my God

This is amazing

He reminds me of me when I was a pre-teen

>>716772
>no dick

2/10 would not bang