/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7151040

>>7151040
>3
>St. Francis Folly stages in 1
>When you first fight against centaurs in 1
>When you get the pistols during training in 3 and you can shoot him, even though you're supposed not to.

>>7151040
>Im torn between 1 and 2
>Winter levels in TR2
>When you first enter the pyramid of Atlantis
>Hearing him fart for the first time

>>7151040
Bros are there any good custom levels worth playing?

>>7151062
>3
Can you elaborate? I actually really like 3 but wouldn't say it's my favourite

>>7151040
>Favourite game?
The first one
>Level?
A Toss up between St. Francis Folly - as the first level that feels like the core of what the game was about, and Cistern, the last.

Everything before St. Francis Folly is simplistic. Everything After Cistern becomes increasingly punishing and focused on building up to finale and ramping up difficulty through janky combat. A problem that plagues TR2 and 3 from the very start.

It almost feels bizarre to say I like what is ostensibly 'the water level' of the game, but there's really not *that* much swimming to be done if you pay attention and figure out where you're supposed to be going before you jump into the water, and figuring that out and knowing you got it right is half of the reward.

What are your thoughts on TLR?
I always hear from people that it's the best, but honestly I'm halfway through and it's... boring. I really don't like that the entire game takes place in Egypt.

>>7151223
I think it's objectively the best game in the franchise. If not for Cairo, it could have been my favourite even.

>>7151045
ew

>>7151040
AoD
Anniversary manor
Hard to tell, I like the beginning of legend's Japan level with that cocktail party
Shooting him in tr3 when he had that target plate on him
>>7151062
What do you mean by "you're supposed not to"?

>>7151040
>Favourite game
Depending on mood, either 3 or TLR. But if I had to pick absolutely one, TLR
>Level
I know everyone will take it for bait, because they are universally hated, but:
- entire Karnak complex in TLR (since it's three interlocked levels you go back and forth between)
- Lost City of Tinnos (my version of the game doesn't have unlimited dragonflies)
And from less controversial stuff:
Crash Site in TR3
>Moment
All-time? When I was playing TLR for the first time and finally got out of the Burial Chamber level. You know, circling around in a tiny shaft while a mummy staggers after you and sand is slowly filling the shaft, after a quite challenging level. I felt like achieving something when I did that and the FMV started playing right after.
>Butler moment
I managed to get it exactly once. In TR3, the doors in the kitchen between kitchen and the final part of the race track outside got opened by him. No idea why or how and I was 12 back then, so I didn't even know how to make a print-screen. Now nobody believes me. Plus I doubt I would kept that screen around for 22 years, particularly the first 5 or so years, since my toaster had barely any space on the hard drive and I routinely removed various things for good.

>>7151084
Literally any level with rating of 8.5 and above. And if you aren't picky, then 8 and above.

>>7151040
TOOMBA

>>7151040
I'm trying to play the first game for the first time, but my hand keeps cramping up with how stupid it is to turn.
I'm trying not to abuse save states and only use them at crystals for the most part, but dying just feels so discouraging that I have to stop playing for a while. I've been trying to get through it for at least a week now and see why subsequent versions let you save anywhere.

>>7152458
The aesthetics of the lost library are so comfy.

Overall TR2 is my favorite though. The Maria Doria level is CORE at its best with the series.

>>7152553
I fucking hate Maria Doria level, along with the other shipwreck levels, with burning passion. For me it's the exact opposite and the weakest part of TR2.

oh man I never felt so generic but I gotta admit Tomb Raider II is my favourite with Venezia and Bartoli's hideout as my favourite levels.

Moment: The T-Rex's mate, as a kid, I was pretty excited and overwhelmed :D

I don't really remember the butler, so no moment from my side. I read he was fartig and I think I know this, so probably the farts.

>>7151040
Is it possible to get good at these games?

At what point in the series did they stop using tank controls?
>>7153564
probably only with lots of trial and error since the difficulty is mostly contextual and only sometimes in execution

>>7153564
Sure

>>7153607
In AoD, but it was a complete clusterfuck. So the real change is always cited as Legend.

What are your thoughts on tomb raider reloaded? Is it a sing of the new era or just a mobile throwaway?

>>7154109
>those legs
yo, wtf. She seems a HE. Totally fubar

I prefer the original Revisioned: Tomb Raider series. Some episodes aren't so good but at least Lara is still a sexy kick ass female.

>>7151148
I liked how open some maps were and how puzzles used more the geometry of surfaces, that is making diagonal jumps necessary instead of a trick to reach secrets. The game is hard, full of cheap traps and somewhat complicated maps but I really enjoyed it, especially the last stages in Antarctica.
>>7151321
You shoot at the targeted boards that pop up on the track, but the old fuck gets in the middle of the range, dressed with an uniform and a bullseye on his chest. He deflects bullets with his tray and makes you lose time.

>>7154293
Lmao, I thought about him as just an extra target.

>>7154109
>Mobile game
I have no hope

>>7151045
Please refrain from posting dumb e-thots on /vr/ unless they're retro, thx

>>7154109
Remember how in the late 80s and early 90s there was a fuckload of tie-in, 65-episode long cartoons to some brutal, R-rated movie? Like Rambo or RoboCop being turned into corny stuff for kids, with extra dose of preaching in it, even if those weren't toy commercial cartoons?
This is how Reloaded feels to me. And this anon >>7154137 has it right. Re/Visioned was a bumpy ride, but the episodes that work are solid stuff or at least doing their genre thing well. Reloaded is a product of four different commitees orchiestrated by a fifth one.

>>7152483
>not to abuse save states and only use them at crystals
The absolute state of consolefags

>>7156221
but I emulated

>>7156960
>emulating the console version of a PC game
ever worse

>>7158603
>of a PC game
Are you being retarded on purpose?
Either way, getting the pc version would've been too much of a bitch to set up. Emulating is much simpler. Also, I'm not really sure what your problem with any of this is to begin with.

>>7151040
Having played through the series for the first time recently, I really fucking hate classic TR, it was a miserable experience only fueled by "when am I gonna play this if not now". TR3 is the closest I got to "fun", the diversity really elevates this game and just using a guide when stuck makes it more enjoyable than it has any right to be.

I hate 2 the most, those neverending hitscan enemies can go fuck themselves and the flamethrower niggers deserve the rope/

>>7154109
If they just made the head half it’s current size, this design would be infinitely better.

>>7152483
I really enjoy the Tomb Raider games, but I definitely think they’re a lot better when you use save states.

>>7158784
Are you a lau fan then?

>>7151040
>Favourite game?
TR AoD

>Level?
Any first level of any TR from 1 to AoD

>Moment?
TR1 Cover Art

>Butler moment?
none

>>7151040
>Lara swings again
What does it mean exactly?

>>7151040
>Favourite game?
The second one because it has the best controls. The first one had the best levels and the third one the best mansion.
>Level?
City of Khamoon
>Moment?
When you come across your evil twin in Tomb Raider 1.
>Butler moment?
When you get the guns in Tomb Raider 3 and get to shoot him down.

>>7151040
>Favourite game?
finally playing through 3 for the first time even though I got it when it was new; gotta say its significantly better than I expected/have heard
id say its my fav
london has a bad rep but I genuinely enjoyed it

I like 2 except for the middle half
I like the first half of 1

lara looks best in 4 but I dont like it at all
>Level?
cistern in 1
xian/floating islands in 2
going through madubu gorge right now and its a treat
>Moment?
off the top of my head Id say in the floating islands where you have to do a spinning backflip from one climbable surface to another over a void, or the long dive through the gap in the lava rocks
if you mean cinematics then its the elevator scene from 1
oh, and the midas hand was pretty neat

>>7151045
lara would be better with light green eyes
about the only thing I dislike about her physically

>>7159083
>cistern in 1
I liked the overall design, but it is way too easy to die with all the ambushes.

>>7159087
Can't agree with that. Enemies are ezpz in early TRs, especially 1.

Tr gold add ons are essential. Psx experience is incomplete

>>7159092
They are easy for the most part, but not when you have little to no room to maneuver and aren't expecting one to pop up out of nowhere, which is often the case with that level.

>>7158749
>>7158794
The fact that the PC version never had checkpoints to begin with. So this whole "save states" thing is a moot point.

>>7159098
I don't think I ever died to enemies in tr1 that I can remember.

>>7159101
But how do I know they didn't just casualize it for the port? You can't even use the same crystal more than once.

>>7151040
>>7159083
you should add
>favorite weapon
Desert eagle, hands down. That thing is pure satisfaction in every way.

>>7159103
I really don't know what to tell you if bullshit like the ape hiding behind the pillar on the raised platform toward the end or getting shot in the back a bunch during a slow platforming section didn't phase you.

>>7159110
Enemies in TR dont do enough damage except for shit like sharks/t-rexes
theres medpacks for days
most enemies are trivialized by jumping up on something where they cant reach

Do you know to roll in combat to get behind enemies so they waste time turning around? Just keep doing that

>>7159118
>Enemies in TR dont do enough damage except for shit like sharks/t-rexes
They do if you're forced into a literal tight spot, which is the scenario I'm talking about.
>Do you know to roll in combat to get behind enemies so they waste time turning around?
How am I going to roll if there's so little space that I either don't move or fall to my death?

>>7159130
well just use the uzis then, heal if necessary

>>7159140
I thought other weapons were shit since I tried the shot gun once or twice unsuccessfully, and only learned how good Uzis were at the mines.

>>7159151
shotgun is goat when a tough enemy is approaching you from a medium distance and you have time for 2 or 3 shots

uzis are best period in tr1, but you can run/jump while shooting with them so its kind of a waste to use them on enemies that are running at you from a distance

>>7159161
Yeah, I learned all that way too late during the Atlantis levels, and now it doesn't matter since I'm done with the game. Don't know when I'll get around to 2 though.

>>7154109
It's gonna be shit
https://youtu.be/B6ZaYyula_M

>>7151040
Any good trle levels released recently?

>>7160008
Is it a leak? Pretty sure it's not out yet.
>>7158794
It's a top-down game, they probably increased it due to the camera. Kinda like they increased her legs length in underworld.

>>7160690
Yeah, got leaked on /v/, the official TR discord, and apparently trforums too

>>7160008
>literally just some shitty mobile game
>not even a "Lara Croft and the..." game
Square won't be satisfied with raping the corpse of Tomb Raider until it gives them absolutely zero profit, won't they.

>>7151040
Is there anything good that can be said about Tomb Raider Chronicles?

>>7160784
It came with the level editor, and it's a very short game.
It's not bad, it's just not very exciting either.

>>7160784
Nice cutscenes.

>>7160815
I fucking hate this fmv model with a passion. It makes Lara look like some monkey-human hybrid abomination. If only they moved her eyes closer together and got rid of that monkey mouth, she'd be perfect.

>>7160705
Guardian of Light and Temple of Osiris were kino and you should be ashamed for dragging them into this

>Almost 2021 already
>There are still some chimps defending the shit-tier console version of Core-era TRs
>Solely due to some ill-convieved "b-but it was originally for Sega, y-you know?"
Those games ALWAYS have been best on PC. Anyone claiming otherwise either never played on PC or is a fucking contrarian idiot.

>>7160827
>Core-era games using generally cartooney aesthetics, kowing they are making escapistic game to begin with
>NOOOOO! LARA IS FOR REALISTIC STUFF
Niggers like you are the reason why we ultimately ended up with TR'13

>>7160784
Three words, my friend: Tomb Raider Editor

>>7160784
Four words, my friend: Tomb Raider Level Editor

Don't mind the repost, I'm finishing a 48h graveyard

>>7154109
Mobile trash. I can already see some excuses coming up.
>Game fails
>Well, I guess no one wants classic Lara.
>Now devs feel like they have the financial excuse to use nuLara.

>>7161431
>not wanting Lara to look like a disgusting ape-human means I want realism
Dumb nigger they were already clearly going for a more anime look, but made her look too much like pic related fucked a monkey.
It's fucking disgusting and the only thing I hate about TRLR and TRC.

Tomb Raider 3 used to be my favorite since I love the urban setting, but the level design is kinda poor and cryptic. Tomb raider the last revelation has excellent level design and is on a similar engine, so that's my favorite these days

>>7160784
I thought the Ireland(?) level was pretty spoopy.

>>7160784
>>7162515
yeah, that starting gorge area of gallows tree was beautiful and very well designed

Favourite game?
Probably III,
Level?
Disused LU station (is it Ludgate Hill?)
Moment?
Opening slide ,1st level TRIII
Butler moment?
None

>>7151040

For me:

Best Story - Angel of Darkness
Best Gameplay - TR1
Best Music - TR2/TR3
Best Levels/Atmosphere - TR3/Lost Artefact

>>7162337
>urban setting
Is it? I just remember the amazon jungle, don't you mean TRII?

>would desync firing the dual pistols because thought it sounded cooler, but also maybe did a bit more damage, but that latter part has no basis whatsoever.

>>7151223
>that the entire game takes place
That Lara visited places other than Tombs became a complaint about II and II.

>>7151223
>at the entire game takes place in Egypt.
That Lara visited places other than Tombs became a critique of II and III.

>>7163030
In TRIII, 2 of the 3 Nevada levels are 90% urban, all of the London levels are urban, and a little bit of Antarctica is spent in office buildings and a large boat. India (not the Amazons) just has a tent in a cutscene as the closest to an urban setting, and South Pacific's straw hut villages and crashed aircraft are the closest to urban there

>>7163030
London and Nevada though. The only two level sections I got through as a kid. I guess Nevada isn't technically urban, but you run through high tech compounds

>>7163316
Totally forgotten.

>>7163159
In my recent playthrough of TR1 I swear it did do more damage, but im playing through TR2 now and it seems like it doesn't.

I've got to be the only person that likes the London levels in Tomb Raider 3. That and the Maria Doria levels in 2.

Tomb Raider I
Atlantis
Shooting Winston in TR3

Based finally a Tomb Raider thread, just started playing these again
>tomb Raider 2
>Venice
>killing your doppelganger in 1
>Venice violins is based and the orchestra version is awesome

>>7154109
tranny shit

>>7164691
This makes no sense. Because it's a dumb mobile game it's "tranny"?

>>7164861
Ignore him, he's just using buzzwords when it isn't relevant.

>>7164861
>>7165258
I think he's referring to the fact that the legs don't look feminine, and there's no waist-to-hip ratio. The shoulders are going out beyond the hips, usually a masculine trait; and while you can't see the belly button, where it would usually be placed would put it below the waistline, which is another masculine trait. Overall it's kind of a shit design, it honestly looks like what Naughty Dog did with that character in the Last of Us 2 - make a male character, change their mind and want a female character, end up just adding some tits and makeup to the model and calling it a day.

>>7163664
Venice Violins is GOAT

>>7151040
>Favourite game?
3
>Level?
Tibetan Foothills from TR2
>Moment?
That part where you crawl around the vents in the RX Tech Mines to get some shotgun shells, get teased an ambush, then leaving the crawlspace to see a hulking mutant in idle shrouded in shadow underneath a spotlight at the end of the hall staring until you make a move
Alternatively, there's the scene in The Lost Artifact where you discover that Nessie was actually a robot all along, and Lara just killed it's pilot
>Butler moment?
One time in the PS1 version of TR3, some of the inventory managed to carry over from the main game into the manor, allowing you to blast the butler with various other weapons (though, since only the default pistols are properly rigged on the manor outfit, Lara had other, glitchy, means of using said weapons)

>>7152458
There are some gems hidden in the 7 and even 6/10 category, the TR reviewer autists just rate them low because they're either short or lack the insane difficulty and cryptic hidden items of the higher rated levels.

>>7163195
Which is a dumb critique since she doesn't spend the whole time in tombs in TRLR either, she spends ample time in cities and fighting military.

>>7151040
>Favorite Game
With some time behind me after finally finishing all of the main entries in the series from beginning to end, I have to say, still, my favorite is TR3. TR2 was close, but whenever I remember it, I get a bad taste in my mouth remembering the last couple levels that soured my opinion on the whole thing. I enjoy the worst levels in TR3 more than I did Temple of Xian or Floating Islands. Overly long, annoyingly designed, and not enough enemies to justify all the ammunition the game makes you feel like you have to save.

>Level
South Pacific as a whole. Self explanatory.

>Moment
Probably the first time you walk into the hidden valley in Tomb Raider 1 and fight the T-Rex.

>Butler Moment
Without a doubt when you get to shoot him in Tomb Raider 3 and he's wearing targets.

>>7159118
>Enemies in TR dont do enough damage except for shit like sharks/t-rexes

Enemies in Tomb Raider, especially the earlier games, have a very weird damage system where they don't do damage just from collision, their attacks actually have to connect, and it feels like attacks do more damage based on how much of their attack arc crossed you, meaning damage can vary wildly.

They can do obscene amounts of damage though, especially the raptors in 3. The hitscan weapon enemies can also whittle your health down pretty fast if there's more than one, or you don't know where they're shooting you from.

Besides, enemies are primarily meant to be a nuisance, while the real threats are the insta-deaths and high damage traps that can and will catch you off guard.

>theres medpacks for days
Not in 2, which I don't think you've played, cause if you had, you'd know how they took the criticism of too many health packs in 1 and reduced them by half.

>most enemies are trivialized by jumping up on something where they cant reach
They fixed that from 3 and on, where if you're in a location the enemy can't reach, they will actively try and break line of sight with you. Also, in 2 the enemies could climb.

>>7160008
I predicted this a year or so ago....Lara Croft was going to be relegated to Mobile game hell and die a painful, shallow death, rather than the blow-out that happeend with Shadow of the Tomb Raider.

Shame, really.

>>7167380
But the entire reboot trilogy was a painful, shallow death?

>>7167384
It sold enough to compete with Uncharted, which gave me hope for a future iteration afterwards, but they bungled Shadow so poorly that I don't think she'll ever come back.

>>7151084
http://www.trle.net/pFind.php

Search yourself. They just recently redesigned the site, so it's either A) become popular enough for them to care about redesigning it or B) is falling into disrepair and had to make cuts on features that were hogging bandwidth.

You can search by rating, game, and even the type of level (desert, jungle, alien, etc).

>>7151171
>It almost feels bizarre to say I like what is ostensibly 'the water level' of the game

*laughs in Tomb Raider 2 which has 5 levels that are essentially the "water level"*

>>7152553
>>7152703
duality of man

>>7152483
Why? Contrary to what others say, the GOG and Steam versions work pretty well, the only change I had to make was using a keypad mapper to my Gamepad so I could force gamepad support, but other than that it's golden with minimal issues (for the most part).

>I'm trying to play the first game for the first time, but my hand keeps cramping up with how stupid it is to turn
Try not stabbing the controller with your thumb, and I hope to god you're using an Xbox gamepad, the d-pad makes it so much easier to control Lara.

>and see why subsequent versions let you save anywhere.
Heheheh, you're going to want to play the PC version of Tomb Raider 3 when you get to it.....console version uses Save Crystal system, where you are required to find save crystals in order to be able to save

>>7158867
>TR AoD

I keep seeing this mentioned but I can't tell how genuine everyone is about it. Every single review I've seen mentions how much of an unfinished, buggy, god awful mess it is.

>>7167525
Maybe you should play it and judge for yourself instead of reading reviews?

>>7167553
I have a large backlog and AoD needs to justify itself for a playthrough before I dedicate the time and effort to play through it.

>>7167560
It's one of Lara's games, come on.

>>7167587
I might try during the coming Christmas or New Years vacations I scheduled off. And finish off those Guardian of the Light/Temple of Osiris games as well.

>>7163159
It actually DOES increase your damage, by the virtue of increasing accuracy. Not because Lara fires better this way, mind you, but by exploiting game logic. The game calculates your accuracy as rounds fired/rate of fire/movement of the target. By game logic, if you desync your guns, it means the target is shot at twice as often, which means by the same game logic probability of hitting is twice as high. This leads to more shots connecting (since Lara DOESN'T have 100% accuracy), which means more damage dealt in a roundabout way.

>>7167339
Hunting for good levels in 7 and 6/10 is this - hunting.
Going for 8.5 and higher is meanwhile guaranteed good game. Also, the ratings are aggrevated. This means it's not just few autists that decided "Yup, this level requiring engine exploits to finish is 10/10", because shit like this tanks your rating faster than being a long corridor with traps done by a 11 yo in 2002.

>>7167504
>Contrary to what others say, the GOG and Steam versions work pretty well
Nobody but console autists say that. In fact, as far as English-language releases go, the GOG one is currently the best one on the market, simply because you don't need Steam itself sitting on your PC (and making it impossible to play if you want to run it on some old clunker, as Steam requires 64bit system)

>>7167525
>>7167560
>>7167594
Word of advice: use a modern re-release. Pick Steam, GOG or Cenega. DO NOT use some "retro" release or "muh original" release, not to mention emulations of those, or you will see precisely why the game has such bad rap.
The whole point of people re-evaluating AoD is two-fold. First, the dust have settled years ago. Second, various re-releases patched variety of bugs and crashes and even made camerawork less nauseating, making the game far more playable than it originally was

>>7151045
She's cosplaying as the doppelganger from Underworld, it looks like.

>>7167657
>Nobody but console autists say that.

Nobody but actual retard mongoloids says that ^

For games from 1996-2000, they work surprisingly well, the only issue being the resolution compatibility issues that re-sizes when going from menu to in-game, or may block off the healthbar.

>(and making it impossible to play if you want to run it on some old clunker, as Steam requires 64bit system)
Again, retard mongoloid. STEAM for MAC OS is 64 bit, for Windows and Linux it's 32 bit. Try again talking about things beyond your depth, retard.

>>7167652
>Going for 8.5 and higher is meanwhile guaranteed good game

Not necessarily. There's a bunch of meme maps with high ratings, some levels even being furry fan-fiction levels.

>"Yup, this level requiring engine exploits to finish is 10/10", because shit like this tanks your rating faster than being a long corridor with traps done by a 11 yo in 2002
You'd be surprised.

>>7167650
I can't speak for later Tomb Raider's, but I know that in Tomb Raider 1 the health system for targets was a flat number, and that number dictated how many times it had to be shot to be killed, some weapons varying in how many times it counts as a "hit".

The pistol's damage though was "1" I believe, so when you desync your weapons, I think it's because it counts each individual shot as its own damage instead of both firing and counting as a single hit. This is just speculative though.

>>7167657
>Nobody but console autists say that.
Nobody but actual retard mongoloids says that ^

For games from 1996-2000, they work surprisingly well, the only issue being the resolution compatibility issues that re-sizes when going from menu to in-game, or may block off the healthbar.

>(and making it impossible to play if you want to run it on some old clunker, as Steam requires 64bit system)
Again, retard mongoloid. STEAM for MAC OS is 64 bit, for Windows and Linux it's 32 bit. Try again talking about things beyond your depth.

bamp 4 lara

I wonder why they had lara killing US military personnel and british security guards in 3, when so far she had been a neutral character at worst.

>>7151040
>Favourite game?
The Last Revelation - I'm a sucker for Egypt, lore and mythology. I've been there at least 6 times and there's always something great to see.
>Level?
KARNAK complex but whole game is amazing with exception of train and Cairo sections.
>Moment?
Lara turns into gold when stepping on Midas hand, best death/peril/game over in the series + massive fetish boner
>Butler moment?
Never paid much attention, classic locking him in fridge I guess.

>>7169487
If you are in her way, you know what happens.

>>7169487
Probably because they didn't give a shit in the 90's, because rule of cool was first and fore-most ahead of everything?

>>7169502
>I've been there at least 6 times and there's always

Did you have an asthma attack in Cairo with all the smog?

>>7169502
I liked the train bit, and Cairo was pretty cool. I hated that whole underground library section though. By far my least favorite part of Revelation.

>>7160863
I thought they would be shit but I just finished Guardian of Light today and it was absolutely fantastic. Going to play Osiris soon.

>>7160784
Ireland was cool. V-Tech looks cool until you actually play it. I like the title theme. I think that's it. I hear people say it's better than 3 but I really disagree.

>>7169634
>I hear people say it's better than 3

Probably from salty fags butthurt about being filtered by all the traps in 3, lmao

>>7167384
I enjoyed the first one as a shallow, generic AAA game as long as I pretended it wasn't a Tomb Raider game.

>>7167664
Do they actually fix the controls? I played the PS2 version a few months ago and that was the worst part for me.

If you could make another tomb raider, what would it have?

>levels
>enemies
>weapons
>outfits
>vehicles
>mechanics (like monkey swing, crawling, etc)
>traps

They missed a good idea with chronicles; at the very beginning of tr1 we see Lara on the cover of natgeo standing over a bigfoot corpse with a headline that says "Bigfoot found".

>>7169690
On the off chance that some Square Enix employee is mining this thread for ideas, I'll answer genuinely

>Levels
I'd like to start it with some familiarity, starting in the mountains that you have to ascend into the ruins for, then descend from into the jungle, afterwards trying to get to the beach to get back to your yacht, then have the next area be a city-ish environment where she's doing some snooping in-game instead of in a cutscene like in TR1, then go somewhere new like....I don't know....she's kind of been everywhere. You might follow it up with a museum heist where she has to flee using the sewers and then has an aquatic escape, and then she ends up in central Africa, in Angola.

>enemies
In the beginning have it be mostly wildlife, then she starts getting introduced to human enemies, a couple at a time, trying to steal the artifact she retrieved, then she ends up having to do stealth in middle portions more and by the end she's fighting supernatural creatures, actual creatures not just undead. I guess they could be bat-like demons or something.

>Weapons
Dual pistols, single powerful magnum, SMG, automatic rifle, grenade launcher, knife, and a harpoon gun. Maybe throw in grenades or mines as well.

>outfits
Jungle raider, sleuth raider, and desert raider.

>vehicles
jet ski, off-road humvee, and a motorcycle.

>mechanics
Definitely stealth and noise mechanics, destructible environments, hand-to-hand combat, and make it free roam in the sense of the whole game takes place in areas like the open world sections of the nu-trilogy, but without all the bogus collectible crap and have the player decide which route they wish to go, with zones that have different problems like maybe there's an area with high amount of traps, or a high amount of wild life, or structural instability, or human enemies, stuff like that.

>traps
Can't go wrong with the classics, but I was thinking it could also be conceptual like Indiana Jones as well with light traps.

>>7169690
Throw all that nu-raider garbage out. Back to tomb raiding formula where Lara is mostly left alone. The main focus is some ancient artifact of great power that is supposed to be in city of Babylon.
>levels
1. Ancient Mesopotamia
- Babylon - 1st level, massive hub with a lot to uncover. Lara needs to find 3 keys to the gate that leads to..
- Underneath the Tower - claustrophobic catacombs and caves where Lara finds remains of mythical tower and the main underground hall is connected to...
- the Sanctuary - Lara is about to reach her goal but the object is not there. Lara finds clues and her journey continues to...
2. Petra
- Lost City of Petra - another large hub where Lara needs to collect objects required to open...
- The Treasury - Lara finds out that someone is looking for the same and in this race there's no reward for second place. Lara sneaks aboard their plane which lands near...
3. Ancient Sudan/Kingdom of Kush
- Meroe Pyramids complex - Lara explores the complex of small pyramids but must be careful not to be caught by rival group. Another thing there is that you do not have to visit every each pyramid. If you are lucky and visit the correct one right at the beginning you can skip the rest. Game uses random generator so the object you are looking for can be at the end of each one but you can't tell or save/load because you are not sure which one to go until you so the final chamber. Each pyramid is slightly different, different paths and puzzles in it. Found artifact suggests that the objective has been stolen by crusaders and brought to...
4. Spain
- The Citadel - Lara has to explore medieval castle in southern Spain. Apparently the artifact she's looking for is powerful enough to bring crusaders (or their remains and skeletons) back from the dead. They are guardians of. ..
- Kings Tomb - the final level. Showdown where Lara has to face everyone. Undead crusaders, rival group and their boss who wants to use the artifact to rule the world.

>>7170331
>enemies
Lara is mostly alone, enemies appear in hub sections only. Ruins of Babylon are filled with ISIS terrorists trying to take it down. They are to be avoided as Lara can't fight them in large group. They are supposed to serve as traps than enemy to kill in action style. Same with rival group in Petra. Undead crusaders are immortal too. Basically I don't want to turn it into shooter game. Enemies are mostly to be avoided, adding more sneaking and tactical elements.
>weapons
Lara has 1 gun. It works in similar way to classic double guns but not as cheesy. In addition Lara can pick any weapon she finds but she is not lugging it around all the time. Shotguns, machine guns, riffles.. Flares and torchlight are very useful in dark tombs. You will use these more often than weapons.
>outfits
Babylon - lightweight desert military jacket, white t-shirt, tan pants.
Petra/Sudan - classic blue top, khaki shorts.
Spain - costume similar to main Underworld outfit
>vehicles
For large hub locations Lara can use old school jeep or offroad bike. There are vehicles specific for certain locations, for example abandoned mine carts or rafts, pontoon boats etc.
>mechanics
Crawling is used a lot. I want tombs to be tight, claustrophobic and full of hidden spaces Lara can crawl into. No rope like in LAU or reboot series.Lara still can use pre-existing ones. Option to switch camera to First Person view if you like to play in this mode.
No additional helpful stuff, game does not suggest anything. You are in full control. Hud is not present at all. Lara has only compass and a map in her backpack. I want maximum immersion, you are supposed to feel like it's not a video game with maps, huds, health bars or ammo counters.
>traps
Usual, collapsing floors, fire, spikes, falling rocks, quicksand.... just all the good stuff you can find in tombs and ancient ruins.

>>7170331
>>7170352
As you can see it mostly somehow similar in mechanics and gameplay to The Last Revelations in terms of large 'hub' and backtracking levels but also moves forward from each location to the next one.
I also wanted ancient locations but something else than Egypt or Greece and Rome as these are way too overused. Mesopotamia, Babylon, Petra, Sudan... these all feature amazing ancient ruins but they aren't as well acknowledged and that could be interesting.

>>7170331
>>7170352
>1 gun
>all enemies are to be avoided
>no rope
>crawling mostly used

Lmao, get the fuck outta here with that gay shit, go play Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis if you want that. Nothing you described sounds anything like Tomb Raider.

>>7151040
>game
Anniversary or TR3. Yeah I know they did some trimming around the edges for Anni but I like my Lara in those LAU graphics
>Level
South Pacific, no doubt about it. Thailand is a close second mostly because of the nostalgia
>moment
Hearing about TR Ascension leaks and being excited for TR2013 before I found out that piece of shit was a far different and worse “game.”
>butler moment
Going straight to Croft Manor when I got TR2 so I could lock the butler in the freezer for my first time ever (I played the LAU games as they came out first)

>>7170462
People locked the butler in the freezer mostly because of how creepy he was following lara everywhere, not because it was funny.

>hearing about TR ascension
I was busy dealing with the end of high school and college around that time so I wasn't too up-to-date on my TR knowledge, must have been disappointing to say the least.

>>7158784
I enjoyed 1 and 2 but quickly burnt out as I played the others, they suffer from a severe case of more of the same shit disease and the crappy controls and camera doesn't help. still pretty good for 90s games though

>>7169690
I know they would fuck up any new approach, so I'd simply just want a shot-for-shot remake of Tomb Raider 2 with same/similar gameplay and mechanics and maybe a couple extra levels added onto it, kinda like how they did RE2 remake in regards to maintaining a faithful recreation of the original while adding new stuff and subtracting things that didn't work from the original.

A new mechanic I would like to see is, because of TR2's heavy emphasis on water, mechanics that emulate water physics and using them to solve puzzles or defeat enemies.

>>7170495
>and the crappy controls and camera doesn't help.

Get good.

>>7170490
Be happy you weren’t. I think I remember first seeing the leaks around my Freshman year of high school and then playing the game when it came out during my combined junior/senior year (long story).
Basically I waited throughout all of high school for that piece of shit.

>>7170462
>TR Ascension
I thought you were talking about the fan film for a second there, lmao

>>7170504
yeah that's a cutscene ya retard, the combat looks nothing like that when you're playing.

>>7170573
No shit retard, I wasn't trying to show gameplay, I was posting a random webm of TR

This is gameplay

>>7170579
yeah I've played all the games ya dimwit...

>>7169487
She's an anti-hero.

>>7170623
Then why would you think I was trying to "fool you" with a cutscene saying "that's not what the gameplay actually looks like" lmao? Are you aware the Resident Evil cutscenes aren't what Resident Evil actually plays like as well?

>>7170623
Yea, and you clearly need to get good, ya scrubber shitter nitwit.

>>7167496
>Tomb Raider 2 which has 5 levels that are essentially the "water level"

And that's the point where I stopped playing TR2.

>>7169690
>her appearance in 4
>mechanics of 3 + quick entry/exit crawling, corner-rounding while hanging, going from monkey-swing to climbing, a swinging jump from a monkey-swing, and just generally making her faster when doing things and making it easier to look around
>I'd like strafing and quick sidesteps/rolls, but dunno if you can do that with tank controls
>a zoom feature, like with binoculars
>pic-related starter pistols with with limited ammo; instead she has a knife for unlimited weak attacks
>monument valley/mesa/sagebrush desert with cactis, hidden rattlers, very vertical with small/thin ledges/gusts of wind/rope'n'plank bridges, native americans with bows and tomahawks/knives, grabboids, quicksand, a daytime level and a nighttime level
>a snowy ice mountains area like tibet, bomber jacket like tr2 with snow camo pants like in tr3, cold mechanics like antarctica in 3
>a cascadia rainy/misty pine forest; wolves/cougars/bears/maybe sasquatch, cave system (including dark areas requiring flares) which is about half underwater; bats/snakes/biting fish, back and forth between forest and caves?, gorge with rapids, camo pants and open short camo jacket
>volcanic jungle island with a jetski/sea stack/sea cave/beach/coral reefs/deep trench with sunken german u-boat (scuba gear?), thick undergrowth shady canopy jungle section, and black crusty volcanic rock area with lava; cant decide between snakes/tigers/sharks/eels and dinosaurs (icthyosaurs/liopleurodons/elasmosaurus and raptors/pterodactyls/t-rexes), wetsuit?
I like:
>natural areas the most, but each section should have at least one dungeon
>how 3 gave us choice of order in middle sections, different outfits for each section, at least one vehicle in each section
>the idea of a train level, but I never played 4
>the desert eagle, but its broken good

I'm thinking ancient aliens cloaking/antipathy fields to explain these undiscovered areas; final dungeon has alien monsters

happy early xmas

>>7172343
Come on, anon

>>7172376
thanks for the present, santa. Here you have yours

>>7171112
Honestly, I actually like a lot of Tomb Raider 2's underwater bits. The controls lend themselves well to underwater control, and it gives it a diverse feeling. It's just the fucking Maria Doria man...That whole section just blends together, except for The Deck. There's bits and pieces I really liked in it but it's so labyrinthine and confusing at times.

>>7172297
>native americans with bows and tomohawks

THATS RAYCIST

>>7172603
you're goddamned right

>>7172607
[spoilerooga booga[/spoiler]

>>7172607
ooga booga

>>7172631
thats probably the most pleasing section in the game for killing enemies
just run around with the desert eagle 2-shotting everybody

>>7172636
It's also the most A E S T H E T I C

>>7168750
I'm playing custom levels ever since Level Editor got published, without being some sort of pros or expert. Yet somehow the 8+ rule never worked against me, so... yeah, here I am, not surprised in the slightest

>>7169646
Define "fix controls".
They work better, that's for sure.

>>7169502
>Not liking train
... why?

>>7160784
Ireland had good atmosphere, if you are into cheesy ghost stories.
That's about it.

>>7169690
I'd inironically kill to play The 10th Anniversary made on Free Running Engine.
If you ever played Free Running, you know what I mean. If you didn't, you damn should. It's no Mirror's Edge, but it does something completely different and I think it would work great with Lara and TR1 locations.

Can someone explain me 'tank control' meme?

Because I find calssic Lara much more manuvreable and flexible than other character from the similar era. Indiana Jones for example is a true 'tank' as his movement is so blocky and so stiff than Lara can run circles around him. I'm talking about 3D game that came in similar era and is somehow similar to classic Tomb Raiders:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx92-E-1kCw

>>7151040
Never played them because I was a nintoddler growing up but I jerked off to all my EGMs and Gamepros that had pictures of her since before I could even orgasm.

>>7167387
>they bungled Shadow so poorly
Gave it to garbage devs so the team for the first two could go and make the Avengers flop. Terrible move that killed 2 franchises.

>>7173001
The switch from Crystal to Eidos Montreal was like having your abusive father lose custody of you to your even more abusive mom.

>>7173171
It actually made me appreciate those first 2 Nu Lara games a lot more though. Realised they could have been much worse.

>>7172739
Sure, but if you only play 8+ rated mods, you're missing out on gems like
http://www.trle.net/sc/levelfeatures.php?lid=3144
http://www.trle.net/sc/levelfeatures.php?lid=3288
http://www.trle.net/sc/levelfeatures.php?lid=2615
http://www.trle.net/sc/levelfeatures.php?lid=3218
http://www.trle.net/sc/levelfeatures.php?lid=3074
http://www.trle.net/sc/levelfeatures.php?lid=3197

>>7173171
A more apt comparison would be like your alcoholic mom losing custody of you to your abusive dad.

>>7173407
But dads >> moms

>>7172902
It's two-fold. The animation for when Lara collides with geometry and the momentum physics are both handled better. Jones takes longer to get moving at a running pace, and the animation for jumping, collision, and turning are more limited and jerky, so it doesn't appear as smooth.

>>7173412
Yea, but I would be more afraid of an abusive dad, abusive moms are push-overs.

>>7170521
>I waited throughout all of high school for that piece of shit.
Holy fuck that’s pathetic

>>7174479
>haha, you like something, that's pathetic

Sad and depressing someone is this small.

>>7173397
It's like you either can't into reading comprehension, or are doing it on purpose

>>7173417
Not that anon, but the issue with Infernal Machine isn't that it doesn't appear smooth, but it simply isn't. Indy moves like a cart full of coal.

>>7174479
I mean it's not like he was just sitting waiting for the game you fag.

This game is, with no doubt, the most atmospheric of all classic post-TR1 games. But damn fuck, puzzles are insane.

>>7175567
You either don't know how to speak about what you're trying to get across, or you're trolling everyone in this thread.

Did you or did you not state "I only download mods that are rated 8+?" Oh, don't worry, I'll answer it for you:
>>7152458
>Literally any level with rating of 8.5 and above. And if you aren't picky, then 8 and above.

Not my problem you say "only play 8+ rated mods" and then backtrack to move the goalposts later on.

>>7176416
>Plays TLR
>As PSX emulation
>Not just the PC version
Nostalgiafags and consolefags are the worst

>>7177490
>Literally any level with rating of 8.5 and above. And if you aren't picky, then 8 and above.
>Not my problem you say "only play 8+ rated mods"
So you can't into reading comprehension, thanks for making it clear

>>7178312
>implies not to play anything below 8 rating
>moves goal posts and pretends it's reading comprehension

At least I'm not disingenuous and insecure over my poor wording skills.

>>7176416
Why would you play it on an emulator when it objectively looks better on PC?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLy2_ABWivU

>>7178309
>>7178425
>giving money to Shit Enix

>>7178441
They’ve been out for 20 years, just pirate you retarded fucking monkey

>>7151040
Literally how did this get popular?! A game where you need to swing 3 times solely to get through one door shouldn't have this big of a reputation.

I know it's the sex appeal (and i'd nut on OG Lara day-in-day-out) but holy shit this one aged like a crack addict

>>7179964
It didn't. All the ads and articles you see are fabricated to advertise the new Tomb Raiders.

>>7179964
For some people it was genuine autism
Back when tr forums wasn’t shit (a very long time ago) I remember this one guy who said he hated playing as a woman and got banned for saying “Lara is gay”

>>7179964
>Literally how did this get popular?!

Impressive 3D animation for its time. Atmospheric, 'realistic' world.
Lara was a vastly more fleshed out character than most videogame protagonists, and she was female, which was incredibly rare as the sole playable character.
It's basically Prince of Persia in 3D, and at the time, it was groundbreaking.

>>7179964
Fun puzzles, fun exploration, attractive main character, lots of action.

It was popular for pretty straight forward reasons.

>>7179964
Fun puzzles, fun exploration, attractive main character, lots of action. Same reason

It was popular for pretty straight forward reasons.

>I know it's the sex appeal (and i'd nut on OG Lara day-in-day-out) but holy shit this one aged like a crack addict
Mmmm, nope. If she sold solely on sex appeal, she wouldn't have lots of female fans from that era, along with all the copy-cats that attempted to sell on sex appeal that failed miserably (Deathtrap Dungeon), while also continuing to inspire copy cats that did just as well (Indiana Jones, Soul Reaver, Shadow Man, Oni, Castlevania, Duke Nukem, Drakan, among others). Her being attractive was one of the smaller facets of why the games were enjoyed as much as they were, as proven by the previously stated fact.

It's simply a classic franchise that you got filtered from because you refused to get good and thus were thrown into the garbage can of scrubby wanna-be gamers.

>>7179964
Fun puzzles, fun exploration, attractive main character, lots of action. It's like asking why Uncharted got so popular, all fairly obvious only someone who got filtered wouldn't understand.

It was popular for pretty straight forward reasons.

>I know it's the sex appeal (and i'd nut on OG Lara day-in-day-out) but holy shit this one aged like a crack addict
Mmmm, nope. If she sold solely on sex appeal, she wouldn't have lots of female fans from that era, along with all the copy-cats that attempted to sell on sex appeal that failed miserably (Deathtrap Dungeon), while also continuing to inspire copy cats that did just as well (Indiana Jones, Soul Reaver, Shadow Man, Oni, Castlevania, Duke Nukem, Drakan, among others). Her being attractive was one of the smaller facets of why the games were enjoyed as much as they were, as proven by the previously stated fact.

It's simply a classic franchise that you got filtered from because you refused to get good and thus were thrown into the garbage can of scrubby wanna-be gamers.

>>7170776
She isn't an anti-hero she's heroic.

>>7181046
>sell on sex appeal that failed miserably (Deathtrap Dungeon),
Incorrect statement.

>>7181063
I don't agree with the attitude that she was an anti-hero, I see her more of a hardened mercenary. Playing through 1 through 4, you definitely get the sense that she was morally indifferent to most of everything and simply was caught up and saved the day because of circumstance, but she never did anything that was out-right evil.

? for Help

>>7181084
It's pretty much a known fact that Deathtrap Dungeon sold on sex appeal, AND failed miserably.

One of the main characters in it was a female that wore a one-piece leather thong suit with thigh-high's.

>>7181087
I found her to be quite considerate personally.

>>7181106
I think the helicopter pilot she shot in the face and then hijacked at the end of 3 would disagree.

>>7181094
Very well. Let us continue this debate anon, Anon.

>>7181109
>>7181110
EXIT SUB

>>7151040
>Favourite game?
The Last Relevation
>Level?
Valley of the Kings and Alexandria. I know these are more like chapters than levels but man do i love the entirety of those.
>Moment?
https://youtu.be/QObuPcfCaXI?t=181
>Butler moment?
None, really.

>>7181110
I give you Exhibit A

>>7181137
Eh, kind of a weak moment. For me, personally, I would've picked swimming into the underground pyramid.

>>7181137
Eh, kind of a weak moment. For me, personally, I would've picked swimming into the underwater pyramid.

>>7179964
TOMBS
EXPLORING
IN 3D

The game wouldn't be much different if they used any other protagonist than Lara. The premise of exploring ancient tombs defends itself.

>>7181087
Thanks for agreeing with me. Anti-hero doesn't mean a villain.

>>7182496
Notable Examples of anti-heroes
>Spawn (literally a spawn of Satan)
>Venom (brain-eating alien symbiote)
>Catwoman (literally a thief that has regular meet ups and plans with pyschopaths)
>Deadshot (hired sniper mercenary)
>Deathstroke (another hired mercenary who has teamed up with Lex Luthor before to take out the Justice League)

This is getting besides the point, but a reference for what I'm considering as "atypical antihero" which Croft does not fall into.

>>7151040
>1
>The Great Wall
>Beating TRII for the first time with a friend whose friendship was formed over talking about how you kill tigers in TRII at recess
>Learning that I could lock that son of a bitch in the freezer and finally get rid of that leech

>>7183572
>Beating TRII for the first time with a friend whose friendship was formed over talking about how you kill tigers in TRII at recess

I wasn't ready for these feels anon

>>7151040
Gotta keep the gravy train moving.

>>7178441
>has a pc
>still doesn’t know how to get free games
Christ this board is retarded.

>>7183572
You're still in touch with your friend, at least? Don't let good friendships die out.

>>7178441
Explain me how playing PC release of those games is equal with giving money to Squenix, because some parts of your plan are clearly missing, you dumb fuck.

>>7182496
Do yourself a fucking favour and check what anti-hero even means. Lara doesn't qualify, simply because she is nothing like that type of a character.

>>7186253
I think he’s talking about buying them off of Steam/Gog if they didn’t already have them to begin with
Anyways cool box collection, do you know where I could get one of those?

>>7186917
I bought all of them on STEAM for almost nothing, since each one was a dollar on sale.

>>7186917
It's the same set (literally the same) which I used to continously re-post with pic related

Now all the links are dead, and I'm on a laptop for next few days that doesn't have the copy of required files.

What makes Lara stand above any other vidya girl?

Someone motivate me to finish TR3, it's so fucking tedious, i stopped playing 2 years ago after finishing the level where you fire the mounted gun in the jungle and then you jump on specific platforms in quicksand.
Does it get better? I want to like it and beat it, but i can't find it in me. Everything feels like it's purposefully made more annoying to find or get to, at least to me, and I don't like the bigger areas. I don't get why they took this path.
I was really looking forward to playing TLR

>>7151045
Not retro

can you emulate TR Underworld on pc and play those exclusive dlcs yet?

>>7189002
Here's a motivational art for you. TR3 is really tiresome desu.
>>7189016
As far as I know, no.

>>7189016
Yeah, but it's still a pain in the ass to do and you're still better off getting a super cheap xbox 360 to play it.
Pic related is about 5 hours after getting everything set up and I still had to figure out how to install a patch through xbox live onto the damn emulator.

>>7187143
A dollar is too much because none of them fucking work at all.

>>7187143
A dollar towards Shit Enix is a dollar towards another Shit Enix game

>>7188927
She used to be a character, at least within the original /vr/ range

>>7189002
If you didn't play London yet, here is a tip:
You are officially pardoned from cheat-skipping it, even in first playthrough. Just do the boss fight, everything else is skippable.

>>7189141
>>7189161
>t. genuine idiots
This is /vr/. Why are you buying NOW your Tomb Raiders?

>>7189002
just quit

>>7189339
I'd heard for years that london was awful but I finally played through 3 this month and I really liked it
Id say the worst part is the underground section of thames wharf and the secret society part of aldwych

>>7189340
>calls people idiots
>can't speak english

>>7190412
>doesn't have any argument
>tries to shift it to language

>>7190490
The TR fanbase just got a lot of new zoomerfags after 2013 and Rise were given out for free this summer

>>7189002
If you don't like South Pacific, you may as well just quit playing Tomb Raider altogether because your taste is shit and you clearly just don't like the games.

Also
>thinks TR3 is tedious
>looking forward to playing TR4
Bahahahahaha

>>7190493
Meant for >>7189340

>>7190490
If I can't parse the language of the argument how am I going to rebut it?
>HOOH YOU SURE ARE STUPID FOR SAYING THAT THE TOMB RAIDERS ON STEAM ARE COMPLETELY NONFUNCTIONAL

>>7190560
>using steam to play Tomb Raider

>>7190597
As opposed to?

>>7190604
I think he means you should pirate instead of paying a fat ugly Jew money(Gaybe Newell).

>>7191213
Gabe is fine, but Square Enix Europe can suck my cock and balls

>>7190604
Not him, but GOG is well respected and gives you DRM free games. They usually have more care in actually making the bundled games playable on modern systems, whereas on steam sometimes retro games are a broken mess you have to patch or tweak yourself

>>7191213
Gabe isn't jewish.

>>7190597
I played one through four on Steam and didn't have any issues, apart from needing to implement my own proper controller support, which didn't take any time to set up at all.

I'm playing 2 for the first time right now and am really enjoying how relentlessly hard it is. I feel like the hardest level in 1 isn't as hard as early levels in 2 and medpack scarcity is a bigger problem than lack of herbs in RE ever was. Really like the level design, especially the oil rig level, although the sunken boat stage I'm currently on is testing my patience with its bullshit. I think 1 with its choice temple themes is perfect and will probably not be topped, but 2 is a bold (and worthy) sequel with how it goes into an entirely different direction aesthetically and even gameplaywise. I haven't played 3 and laters yet but I'll be really surprised if the novelty balance in 1 and 2 is kept, even if the gameplay is solid.

>>7191816
liar detected

>>7191839

>>7151040
3 > 2 > 1 > 4 > 5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AOD

>>7191821
3 tones down the action, increases the vehicles you use, has branching paths, so more exploration, and is even more difficult than Tomb Raider 2.

>>7192342
It's the no issues part I have trouble believing
This is my experience
>start game
>display changes to low resolution mode
>game runs in a window that takes up the entire screen
>Alt-tab:doesn't work
>Alt-F4:doesn't work
>Ctrl-Alt-Delete: Sort of works
>Have to switch to a different virtual desktop to even use task manager to kill the fucking process
Though, I guess that was chronicles, but 1-4 didn't fare much better.
Spent like 2 hours searching up community patches and shit and none of it worked.
Steam controller mapping to keyboard: doesn't work
Closest I got was getting 3 to render in 1920x1080 but that had problems too.
Tried openlara: it's trash.

I replayed everything from 1 to Underworld this year and I gotta say, I think 1 is my favorite despite being very archaic, though 4 I enjoyed greatly too. the OG games are just god tier comfy exploration.
Seems everyone loves St. Francis Folly lmao. Such a good level, remember when I was a kid and got on top of Midas' hand.

>>7192636
>>game runs in a window that takes up the entire screen
Is it a black screen or does it just run in a window that you can't exit from? That's weird, and I've had that happen but not just with Tomb Raider, it's a weird thing that seems to occur and I think my computer may need a reformat.

>Steam controller mapping to keyboard: doesn't work
I just used an Xbox gamepad and then used JoyToKey and it worked fine.

>>7193514
There's too many levels to pick a favorite. My favorite starting level is definitely India in TR3 though.

>>7192690
There's too many levels to pick a favorite. My favorite starting level is definitely India in TR3 though.

>>7191816
These fags in here are dissing the steam release of the classic tomb raider games but they're serviceable and convenient if you just wanna play some levels on a new os install.

just run the community patches if windows 10 ain't having it. It usually works well enough out of the box though

>>7193592
>Can use GOG release that operates without any issues and always did
>No, bro, get Steam one, you can easily fix it in few steps
Aside some ill-concieved brand and company loyality, why should anyone pay money for a retro title that they then have to still fix on their own to run, no matter how easy or fast the fix is?

>just run the community patches if windows 10 ain't having it. It usually works well enough out of the box though

>>7194484
The gog ones are probably the and steam ones don't even have DRM. But also good luck with either of them, because they don't work for shit, even with patches.

>>7194606
gog is probably the same as steam**

>>7194484
>why steam
It's convenient and it works well enough for most people. No, steam is not the best place for retro games, but it's great for fags like me who want to press a button to play games that are reasonably certain to work

>>7194584
lol, this isn't a problem exclusive to the steam version you know

>>7194484
>>7194584
GOG version is literally identical to fucking STEAM, retards

>>7194987
Not them, but you're wrong. There is one HUGE difference. GOG is not run by a fat ugly slop.

Honestly I had problems even with GOG versions. In TR2 I had wrong music tracks played, even cutscene sounds instead of some of them. In TR3 HUD was fucked up somehow, I had to apply the multipatch to these games.

>>7195567
Booba?

>>7189039
HRRRRNNNNG
please post more TR3 fanart brehs

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>>7194954
>It's convenient and it works well enough for most people
And in this particular case it requires extra steps, hence the question. In other words, there is no point or reason to use it

>>7194987
>Literally identical
>No DRM
>Supports high res
>Doesn't require 3rd party patch to run on Win10, because it's already included
Way to expose yourself as a retard

>>7197024
>>Doesn't require 3rd party patch to run on Win10, because it's already included
Not a thing, since I can play all of them on Windows 10 without the need for any patches.

>>Supports high res
There's a launcher that supports higher resolutions as well. Pic related is a screenshot I took with an unpatched version of TR3 on Steam. Cope more GOG-cuck.

>>7197024
>>Doesn't require 3rd party patch to run on Win10, because it's already included
Not a thing, since I can play all of them on Windows 10 without the need for any patches.

>>Supports high res
There's a launcher that supports higher resolutions as well. Pic related is a screenshot I took with an unpatched version of TR3 on Steam. Cope more GOG-cuck.

>no DRM
Steam versions have no DRM either, unless you count launchers as a "DRM", in which games.
https://www.gog.com/galaxy

>>7197024
>>Doesn't require 3rd party patch to run on Win10, because it's already included
Not a thing, since I can play all of them on Windows 10 without the need for any patches.

>>Supports high res
There's a default launcher that allows you to select higher resolutions as well. Pic related is a screenshot I took with an unpatched version of TR3 on Steam. Cope more GOG-cuck.

>no DRM
Steam versions have no DRM either, unless you count launchers as a "DRM", in which case.
https://www.gog.com/galaxy

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>>7196352
>most people
Anon I get it, you have a hate boner for steam. You don't have to use it you know

>>7198805
Only that I don't, but thanks for missing the point and proving you are incapable to grasp the actual issue at hand

2 weeks autosage?

>>7200320
Jannies don't like good games, it seems.