/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
500ml of /vr/
BETA: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/7041037/#7043379
https://discord.gg/F968y8Wj4x

=== NEWS ===
[12-06]POOM a Doom "port" made for Pico8 engine
https://twitter.com/FSouchu/status/1335501419424702465
https://freds72.itch.io/poom

[12-05] Impressive Sega Genesis port of Doom by Krikzz using the Mega EverDrive PRO
https://github.com/krikzz/doom-68k

[12-05] Quake mod Copper updated.
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/copper_v1_15.html

[12-05] Scumhead released Lycanthorn II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMbNxYOyPj8

[12-03] Gothic Library DX for Cryptic Passage, restored based on beta
http://www.blood.freeminded.de/index.php?section=maps&id=624

[12-03] Sandy does a tour of MAP16 of Doom2 but in real life
https://youtu.be/g0DVwhy3R3k

[12-03] Zero Master does Doom II MAP18 in 12 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDaakoJ15bc

[11-30] Hellevator public beta (Boom speedmapping)
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/117072

[11-30] DSDA-Doom 0.7.0 (PRBoom+ fork with extra tools)
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118074

[11-29] FutureShock32 updated (UI, server browser)
fb.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2701770990088559&id=1556221081310228

[11-29] Updated: Champions to 2.7, Critical Shots to 1.6 >>7128308 #
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=60456
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=68078

[11-27] Dark forces 2 received a well made HD remaster pack
https://www.moddb.com/mods/jkgfxmod/news/jkgfxmod1-released

[11-24] Speedmap Snack Pack for Quake 1 released. Runs on the Copper mod.
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/snack.html

[11-20]Nightdive working on a Powerslave: EX PC and console enhanced edition
https://twitter.com/ThrowbackCorp/status/1329889365447897091?s=19

[11-19]POWERSLAVE: Exhumed is finally commercially released on GOG (DOS version only)
https://www.gog.com/game/powerslave

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>>7149443
AND HAPPY LATE BIRTHDAY QUAKE 3 ARENA!

>>7148960
The list of firsts for ROTT is insane. First FPS with CTF and modes other than death match, first with jump pads, first with rocket jumping, first with a gore setting and parental controls, first with multiple choosable player characters, first with a missle-cam, the list goes on and on..

>>7149456
Literally the worst thing Carmack's autism ever brought uz

>>7149463
*us

>>7149463
You will never be a woman Alf, just a friendly reminder of you miserable life, and your parents hating you.
And you coming here to shill only to escape this reality.

>>7149463
You have shit taste in games.

>>7149469
Projecting hard, sorry I'm not Alf. I like Half-Life but. I don't want to just play deathmatch against fucking bots as my only option of playing besides online.

Rise of the Triad contains code taken from Wolfenstein 3D, as well as early versions of the Zone memory and WAD file systems from the Doom source code. It also makes use of an early version of Doom's patch_t image format which is close to that used in the press release beta version, indicating that Hall's team was given access to an early transitional source base, perhaps related closely to other contemporary games such as Shadowcaster.[1]

Oddly, the same zone and WAD file code, further modified, also found its way into the source code for Duke Nukem 3D, quite possibly in violation of its original licensing terms. id Software is not known to have ever taken any legal action in regard to this possible misuse, however.

Why do Mac Wolfenstein 3D's music and sound design suck balls anons? The graphics and new weapons are awesome.

>>7149476
haha your so funny I wonder if you're going to do this in the next thread

>>7149461
Just look at them bells and whistles! Shame the gameplay sucks.

>>7149478
I don't remember exact details, but they pretty much decided to fix what's not broken.

>hating Arena
you faggots are so desparate for attention.
Back to your forums drama whores.

How do I play that edgy Steven Segal edgy game?

>>7149456
Does /vr/ host any Q3A server? I'd play the shit out of it
>>7149461
Marathon also coincidentally had Rocket Jumping but I'm not sure how ROTT does it.

>>7149484
How can you fix the soundtrack by replacing it with a whopping 7 songs, at least 3 of which only play in menus or loading screens and all of which are ass?

>>7149505
Are you talking about HacX? It's a free download, just google it.

>>7149461
>modes other than deathmatch
but not coop, which is fucking gay
>first rocketjump
Doom blocks your path
And noone cares about that other shit.
Too bad it wasn't the first FPS with dull mediocre gameplay too . . .

>>7149515
And how do you improve a phone by removing features? Apple magic, duh.

Tom Hall's original idea for Doom sucked dick

hating ROTT is as cringy as shilling it.

>>7149476
You are a fucking faggot, but that Wolf3D level in ROTT is kind of neat. Where is that from?

>>7149540
What about thinking it was 5.5/10? Serviceable and not awful but certainly not a great game worth replaying let alone shilling.

>>7149528
jej

Why do so many maps have dead pinkies and cacodemons everywhere? What's the meaning behind it?

>>7149475
There is a single player campaign mod for Quake III. Blood moon or something?

>>7149553
They're not actually dead monsters, they are just decorations you can place.

>opposing force has a BFG with teleportation
>an unused sound file that played backwards says "To win the game you must kill me, Randy Pitchford"
What did they mean by this?

Besides Cacos and Pain Elementals, were there ever a third "head" enemy in Doom?
If not, what would you make it look and play like?

>>7149571
>you must kill me, Randy Pitchford
I wish

>>7147270
I saw that too, but I didn't take any offense to it since I didn't come up with the idea first (I don't think). *Pretty* sure team TNT did it at some point back in the day.
I did take it pretty far though. Not all the way, but most maps have a unique deathwatch arena. I wish I had done more detailed arenas for more of them, since some are just single room gimmicks. I'll probably switch some of these out... I'll keep the lights on/lights off arena though, I like that one.

I actually haven't played Sigil in deathmatch though. I imagine the dm arenas are probably on par with the single player maps though.

Hope I remember this trip in the future.

>>7149564
is that caco going to be okay

>>7149623
Yeah, the caco made a full recovery

>>7149572
>were there ever a third "head" enemy in Doom

>>7149571
He drank the knob

>>7149613
not sure if you are the real rekker guy baka

>>7149579

I just want them to give up the Duke IP. They have clearly stated they have no plans or interest in making a new Duke game, so they are just going to sit on it for 10+ year for no reason. You would think the timing would be perfect for a callback retro Duke considering the mini retro shooter renaissance we are in. You could give it to the Bombshell devs, they would probably make a damn fine duke game.

>>7149642
Well since I've never used a trip before this, that I can recall, I can't prove it to you. At least not on my phone. But I have no reason to lie so.

>>7149572
>what would you make it look and play like?
One thing Doom doesn't have is enemies that can attack on the move. So I would make them strafe players with rapid-fire fireballs.

I think PB is too over the top

>>7149613
Memento Mori 2 did it too, all the way back in 96.

Duke bros we got cocky...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtCrOHFceWQ

>>7149553
Maybe marines ahead of you got em?

>>7149639
I thought this too but spared the guy, kek

>>7149463
Blow it out your ass.

>>7149507
RoTT just plain let you point a bazooka of your choice to the ground, then launch you into the sky. There's a timed powerup you could use, the Asbestos Armor (... itchy!), which would render you immune to explosions, but still let them launch you, thus allowing you to propel yourself free from injury.

>>7149540
Yep.

Is it possible to kill that first cyberdemon on Sigil?

>>7149698
Telefrag him

>>7149613
Plutonia had a separate deathmatch only arena in its Map 30. TNT also had an exclusive deathmatch only arena as part of one of its levels, Map 26. I remember also that one of the maps in Plutonia 2 had a separate deathmatch only arena to it, so it's not like the fanbase hasn't done that before. Hell, TeamTNT *was* part of the Doom fanbase, they just got their project bought by iD, and got commissioned to make an extra set to go with it.

I like the Trench Foot alpha.

>>7149681
>mod replaces alf life arsenal with douk guns
>"DURR WHY AREN'T THEY WORKING LIEK ORIGINAL GUNS"
G-string is national treasure, he never ceases to amaze me.

>>7149681
And its a neat mod

all it needs is a monster replacement mod and custom maps

>>7149680
There's another example.

>>7149680
I've never tested it, but I believe you. I actually am a bit un-educated in wads from that era. Most of the ones I was playing at the time were off those shovelware cds, randomly. Which is fun in its own right.

>>7149707
That will probably require some save scumming.

>>7149665

>>7149728
Get out of my house!

>>7149707
lmao did it on first attempt

>>7149681
>mod literally gives you an OP quick melee
>its odd that theres no proper melee weapon
what

>>7149727
Not really you just need to run like hell.

>>7149681
>Why don't weapons feel like the originals
>Mod has mighty kick
>Why is there no melee weapon
Shillman truly is beyond another level

how do I play Blood? Fresh Supply, GDX or something else?

>>7149752
gdx

>>7149752
Fresh Supply is great but I had some performance issues on my machine (win7)

>>7149663
Oi Revae
Rekkr texture fix when? It won't load in some (mostly DOS) ports because of 4-5 textures

>>7149613
I'm confused. What is Romero claiming he had never seen done before?

Sup fags, it's idGames Roulette time!
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?random

>click link to get a random upload from idgames
>play it (as far as you want anyway)
>no need to finish it if you don't like it - it's supposed to be fun
>take at least one screenshot
>post a link to it here in reply afterwards
>tell us what you thought about it
>if you get a DM map, texture pack, or utility, etc, reroll

>>7149613
Romero's just booty blasted he never got Sigil up to Cacoward levels that he wanted.

>>7149786
Deathmatch-only arenas in singleplayer. Sigil is only unique in that every level has one and there are switches that, when pressed at the same time by multiple players, can take you back into the singleplayer level.

>>7149826
I actually thought that was a neat idea, having the ability to go "1v1 me bitch" in-match.
I doubt it gets used that much in doom outside of hardcore deathmatchers, but I could see that being worked into another game, and playing into a different gametype or some such.

didn't plutonia did the "putting mp map in the same level slot as an sp map, even if it's unaccessable otherwise" thing first?

>>7149613
Also I want to clarify that I don't think he sounded terribly butthurt or anything.
But just for a point of humor, the concept of shooting the evil eyes as switches... My dad did that back in 1996 for a puzzle in a map ;-)

Sigil is great though. I like Jimmy's soundtrack for it a lot too. Was a good choice to ping him on that.

>>7149858
Yes, TNT, Plutonia, and Memento Mori, all did something like that already.

>Hey kid, wanna do some blow and deathmatch?

is there any custom mod with an enemy with a design similar to this?

>>7149443
bumping >>7148292

>>7149865
In your opinion what REKKR map has the most SOUL

>>7149909
iirc he wasn't creating doom, just a 2.5D game engine for genesis.
it looked really neat, but i think with the FPS you'd get out of it it would be better suited to a dungeon crawler or sorta SS1 style RPG.
was a neat project though.

https://youtu.be/Cn23LrfU-FQ

>>7149914
E1M7 or E2M7... or E3M6
Fuck dude, I dunno.
Those are the ones that have more lore-type things in them. E1M7 has a lot of in-location details that remind me of the Thief map and how they would have level-based sub-plots and such. E2M7 has more to do about world and where it's coming from. E3M6 has more about the rekkr just being angry and killy.

So I guess one of those three.
But the secret maps are all unique or gimmicky in some facet and that's kind SOUL-y.
You tell me, leave a reply in the comments below and SMASH that bell.

>>7149802
Hell Base
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/g-i/hellbas

Not even posting a shot, first map was literally 2 small square rooms. Supposedly made in 2015 (or at least uploaded), this wad so bad I'm assuming it was deliberate

>>7149906
Will he make me his bitch?

Wtf - I just discovered that Duke Nukem 20th Anniversary uses the SC-D70 music packs as the soundtrack (albeit a highly compressed version), and Megaton uses the SC-55 music packs. Most of the songs sound better in SC-55, but this song in particular sounds better in SC-D70:
https://youtu.be/xWfXHZd9pVM

sc55.duke4.net/games.php
http://sc-d70.retrohost.net/musicpacks.html

Some SC-55 MIDIs:
https://youtu.be/6t3HZmGoiHE
https://youtu.be/EfCa6C22Htw
https://youtu.be/3EXEGI6rLbM

Houndeyes will never drink your blood
Why even live?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7C-oKGJ6FE&list=PLDmcwfn8y0lMtlqcpUhggk0FB1EC2i3iB

>>7149916
>>7149909
I doubt it's over, he goes long spans without posting anything about it.

>>7149802
>Da Kills
>1994
>replaces E1M1

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/j-l/killspr2


It's definitely a map from '94. Texture choices that makes you say "WTF fucking pick a theme and stick with it, goddamn." Nothing really to write home about. It's an early map made by someone who was probably not very old at the time and evidently it doesn't have an exit.

>>7149802
>https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?random

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/s-u/trainng2

I got a Doom 1 level that was filled with large groups of monsters, nothing too fancy, given that it's very old (originally designed over 20 years ago) and doom 2 along with everything past it exists, the monster fights and ambushes felt rather samey, but there was tons of ammo, some nice powerups and simple secrets. There were some sections where I was trying to outrun a baron stalking me while hastily tearing thru enemies in the way (this was my fault for not just killing the baron and moving on). Overall, it's nothing outstanding, it's a simple Doom 1 level from years ago that is playable and functional.

>>7150094
It's nice to see maps that have sector furniture, even if (sometimes especially) if it's really simple like this

>>7150094
terrible gzdoom configuration

>>7149693
>RoTT just plain let you point a bazooka of your choice to the ground, then launch you into the sky.
So did Marathon
>>7149526
>>first rocketjump
>Doom blocks your path
Doom doesn't even have 3 dimensional physics/momentum.

>>7149526
Doom's rocket jump is more like a push.

>>7150124
>doesn't even have 3 dimensional physics
Yes it does.

>>7149478
Mac Wolf's music was much cooler and more epic

>>7150125
>Yes it does.
No it doesn't. Rocket jumping only translates the player along the x and z axes.

>>7150125
indeed, ribbiks "fetish film" map7 requires these "rocket pushes"

>>7150124
>Doom doesn't even have 3D physics
Even if you're correct (doubtful) what is your point? You need to rocketjump to the secret exit in Mt. Erebus, and Doom came out first. Simple as.

>>7150160
not really a rocket jump, more like a rocket bump. you can't even aim down to do a proper jump

i think even romero said at one point that quake was the real colloquial origin of it

>>7150126
Not really. The tracks are way too short anyway.

>>7150160
>Even if you're correct (doubtful)
So you haven't even played Doom? What are you doing here kid?
>You need to rocketjump to the secret exit in Mt. Erebus
Sure but it's pretty much a gimmick there. That's like saying Marathon had the first jetpack before Duke Nukem 3D just because the flamethrower was designed to be used as one in a low-grav map. The point is that Doom's physics are extremely primitive compared to Marathon's, which had a fully fleshed-out 3D momentum system.

>>7150160
though yeah zdoom and the like have proper rocket jumping

>>7150171
>i think even romero said at one point that quake was the real colloquial origin of it

>>7150178
not saying he was right but yeah. i think it was said some point in that playtrough he did with that bioshock designer

>>7150178
>The developer of Daikatana™ and Empire of Sin™ is fucking wrong
Who could've guessed
Also who the fuck shits on REKKR

>>7150160
doom(2) does have "rocket jumping" in a sense but only from archvile hits

>>7150209
Forgot about that desu, though if the Marathon demo counts, being whacked by a Hulk has a similar effect of throwing you across the room.

>>7150117
Fixt it for (You), sweetheart.

>>7150267

Need help remembering the name of an old 2.5d shooter. It was pirate themed, the rocket launcher equivalent was a crossbow that shoots dynamite, and I'm pretty sure it ran on Build.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhFPsL3Xi-8

Is this the single most experimental official level in a 2.5D shooter?

>>7150287
you may be mixing up redneck rampage and outlaws. the former is on build and has a dynamite crossbow, but its not cowboy themed. the latter is but it's not build and it has dynamite but you just throw it.

hate how the game punishes me for being good at it by preventing me from eating any more doritos.

>>7150143
Just because the rocket explosion doesn't launch you vertically doesn't mean the engine lacks the Y axis, the Arch-Vile can launch you straight up, and if you're running during you will be launched upwards in the direction you're moving (it would be how you get one of the secrets in TNT's map 11, a Vanilla map).
Reminder also that lifts, moving up and down stairs, ledges, and ranged attacks, all involve calculating for Y axis, the game only skips calculating for it in a few situations, as a deliberate decision.

>>7150267
Filters aside, that's a cool map

>>7150198
Has anyone here played Empire of Sin? It doesn't look bad, but it doesn't look like my sort of game either. Just curious what people's impressions are.

>>7150267
GzDoom's low Bloom setting is nice for stark contrasts like that, but the blurring makes me barf.

>>7150304
>>7150287
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leZixSex8z4
Found it.

>>7150267
why is your shit in arabic numerals

having to translate the health numbers is part of the fun of this mapset

>>7150348
>that iconic Build engine start-of-level turn
Also, might we have a buried gem forgotten to the tides of time, /doom/?

>>7150417
It's just a shitty Duke TC with several stolen assets. I'm not sure if this was a fan project or commercially sold, because according to the comments, this was released in 2001.

>>7150348
>that underwater ARRRR
holy kek

>>7150348
That looks like shit in one way, yet also oddly endearing. I thought Build could scale sprites, why are the dudes and parrots fucking enormous?

>>7150440
Gave me a big grin.

>>7150267
What map set?

>>7150484
JPCP

Playing Power slave for the first time. It's fine. Not sold on the backtracking or the lack of enemy variety. Why do I have to aim above things to hit them?

>>7150485
Oh, I wouldn't know because the middle portion of the mapset sucked dick and I gave up on it assuming they put all their best stuff first

>>7150330
Anon you're thinking of the z axis, the other anon confused y & z.

What causes this error upon loading?
The wad is fortborg.wad
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/d-f/fortborg

>>7150348
>heretic stained glass textures with a pirate skull & crossbones edited on
Kek

>>7150348
wtf had no idea this existed, looks super based, how many games have semi-auto flintlocks?

>>7150521
the next map has him kill parrots belonging to the strife peasant

>>7150506
You're missing out, there's some fucking gemstones in that mapset.

I wouldn't leave this thread if I were you. /vr/ is much worse.

>>7149802
I got, uh...... This:

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/themes/x-rated/i_am_old_enough_to_look_at_this/ars_r

>>7150539
For sure. I'll have to finish it. But there are some boring and straight up terrible maps in the middle. The one with the color gimmick was super annoying and another map felt like it wasn't even playtested.

>>7150580
different anon here. indeed it's good to skip around. i also didn't do that color one but had been going map-by-map until then, and skipped around the rest of the mappack.

>>7150571

What's the name of that Doom mod that adds "transforming" weapons?

Would someone recommend me a megawad for playing with La Tailor Girl? It doesn't have to fit the "theme". It just has to be good and not break with the changes to the gameplay.

>>7150571
>>7150613
um, yeah, what is this

>>7150642
That's a little vague, there's a few mods that do that.

>>7150656
I remember the shotgun with some blue details and it transformed into a different weapon, the slayer is wearing vanilla gloves. It's not Guncaster, BD or PB.

>>7150667
did you just say slayer

>>7150667
Was it this?

>>7150673
*ahem*

RIP AND TEAR, UNTIL IT IS DONE!

>>7150673
>>7150680
That one

>>7150680
update when

Ultimate Doom > Plutonia > Doom 64 > TNT > Doom 2

Doom Eternal > Doom 2016 > Doom 3

>>7150690
That's Combined_Arms. I'm still working on a big ass update for it, I'll be tweaking that set a little as well, I wanna swap out the current ice beam for a focused energy beam because I feel like that'll be more fun. Gonna fuck around with the heat mechanic too to make it better to use.
Though you're not playing as Doomguy, you're playing as this weirdo.

>>7150692
Workin on it still. This has been taking me way too goddamn long. I can at least show you the todo list if that helps, at this point I got the big art shit done.

https://hastebin.com/aqodirixop.csharp

>>7150706
Keep at it.

>>7150709
Have been for a whole year now, and I'll keep grinding away til it's done.
I'm taking like two weeks off after this update though. Christ almighty I'm tired.

>>7150706
Dude that's really cool, wish I had the talent to work on something like that. I thought I had this mod bookmarked so I could check it when I'm done with PB but it wasn't and I couldn't find it anywhere. Big thanks!

>>7150706
>add a mini pfhor to the pocket revenants
sick, good luck with this update man.

>>7150723
The biggest trick isn't necessarily talent, it's persistence. I didn't draw that sprite there, mind you. But I was really shitty at art just a few years ago and I'm slowly but surely getting better. I still have no idea what the fuck I'm doing most of the time though.
If you need a link, here https://combine-kegan.itch.io/combined-arms

>>7150724
The pfhor warriors are funny to me, the little honk sound they make when they see you is great.

What's that 2048 Units of /vr/ you guys were talking about? Could you please post a link?

>>7150723
Effort, not talent.

>>7150735
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/2048vr_v1.4

>>7150741
Thank you.

I've seen several mods that tried to make a platformer on a GZDoom engine.
I have a few questions:
1) Is it possible through some combo of game settings and/or scripts to make it render 2D scene without the pixel crawl?
2) How does one make a vertical stage in these circumstances (esp. interested in how one would re-create tile variation)

>>7150643
Otherwise, just recommend me any good megawad that doesn't change weapons.

>>7149564
I think its hilarious that theres a dead lost soul thing, but because theres no sprite attached to it (as Lost Souls don't leave a corpse), it's effectively useless.

Playthrough video of map23 of 1994 tune-up community project is up. A quite difficult map where you have to conserve health and ammo. Has some challenging fights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ayd9Nx1zF4
And the original that is much less strict with health and ammo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gza-i5InyU

>>7150348
>argh

>>7150643

Ancient Aliens

Tailor plays well with most wads, the only ones that it plays poorly with is wad where there are no armor or powerup, but those are pretty rare

>>7150879
cute butt

>>7150506
It's fairly common for 32 level megawads to have the middle maps being the weakest part, as a symptom of insisting to fill all 32 levels.
All the good levels tend to be early on to give good early impressions, and late in the wad to give an epic final stretch. So the middle usually ends up being full of filler.
There are exceptions to this, though. I felt Ancient Aliens was the most consistently great during its middle levels, for example.

>>7150879
I just finished AA with the Final Doomer class. I think I'll go with Jenesis.

>>7149768
didn't see this
Eventually. For rekkr, i'm pretty focused on new levels atm.
pretty sure it's just 3 textures that have a gap in the patches... I'm sure there's other things to fix too. I started a list, but it's short atm and I know there's more.

>>7150571
if anyone is curious there's a single nekkid lady picture behind a red key door, hence the x-rated section.
it's bad, otherwise.

>>7150902
with jpcp case there were some maps made by first timers. map like "bad morning" and "Space Port Panik" are kinda bad. sometimes your first maps aren't going to be all that great.

>>7150936
Yeah, i can understand. It's a pretty popular mod and i guess people would like some more maps first. It only seems to give the error on older ports. Btw i just checked, but it's actually 5 of them: BLODGR1, BLODGR4, FIRELAVA, FIRELAV2 and FIRELAV3

Just finished replaying through all of Ultimate Doom, Doom 2, and Final Doom, and I'm thinking TNT > U.Doom > Doom 2 >>> Plutonia. I paricularly liked how TNT tried to emulate real places. Any suggested wads like it?

>>7149572
I always thought that an equivalent to the Terran Science Vessels would be an addition that would add a lot of complexity to many FPS games. A strong floating dude with no regular attack, like the Pain Elemental, but instead of being a summoner it plays the role of modulator, creating AOE damage traps that you have to adjust your position away from, and buffing its allies. Maybe design it to be a little less malicious than the Caco/Pain, with a kind of creepy eerie ambivalence, a floaty head with eyes half-closed that just gazes below and casts its judgment on the player's surroundings. If I ever have the time to make a total conversion or my own FPS I'm definitely going to include something like that.

>>7150958
what did you dislike about plutonia?

it's one of my favorite wads

>>7150970
He was probably filtered by it's difficulty

>>7150958
eviternity? valiant?

>>7150979

>difficultly
Plutonia has a few cheep tricks it uses almost every map that get old very fast. Spawning 5 chaingunners behind you isn't difficult, its just a dick move usually making you restart the level unless you know its it's coming

>>7150994
If its not difficult, then why are you needing to restart? You should be fine dealing with them on first try if its easy as you say.

>>7150289
A good bunch of Marathon 2 maps feel like they were experimenting on how much the engine could shit on Doom's engine.

>>7149613
Are you really the Rekkr dude? Romero totally fucking shit on you man

>>7150965
Pretty solid idea desu.

The importance prioritizing them would vary a lot with their positioning and what monsters they were partnered with. Particularly if their heal was % based. A Hell Knight getting 20% of their life back is bad. A Baron getting 20% of their life back is real bad. A Cyberdemon getting 20% of their life back is ultra bad.

How 2 make Doom maps?

Does Dark Forces 1 have a good source port yet or is Dosbox still the way to go?

>>7149548
Totally agree though I'd add to that the shareware episode being totally unique from the full game was cool, and I dunno wtf they were doing with the rest of their dev time because the shareware has
>good variety in map styles
Nearly everything you'll see in dark war except a few map gimmicks like floating low guards that drop on top of you like a trap when entering a room, that one puzzle map that has almost no enemies, etc. It's also a really nice length, just long enough to show you everything it has to offer before getting boring, unlike the actual full game lmao
>Almost all the weapons
excalibat and double missile aren't even that special or useful, after playing dark war I didn't encounter anything I would have missed in the shareware
>Almost all the enemies
Except the bullet sponge monks, enforcers are only in one map and you're actually given weapons to deal with them, unlike most of the later maps in dark war
hunt begins is a solid 6, dark war is a 4 for wasted potential

I'm gonna play Ancient Aliens with mouselook on.

>>7151059
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Editing_tutorials

>>7151059
How 2 not make Doom maps?

>>7150705
Can I get a rationale for plutonia being ahead of doom 2, even doom 64 for that matter?

>>7151071
George Broussard was the digitized actor for the Enforcer and voiced him too which is pretty cool. I also like the Lightning Guards who take your weapon and the Strike Force guys who can roll out of the way of your projectiles

>>7151054
Not him, but I wouldn't say Romero 'shit on him'. He admitted to being salty that Rekkr did something in one of its levels that 'stole his thunder'.

It's also total fucking nonsense and completely in Romero's head - Googling 'doom rekkr' yields 10,700 results. Google 'doom sigil' yields 801,000, and 'romero sigil', 376,000.

Rekkr didn't outdo him anywhere other than in his own mind. But hey, I guess that counts for something, so congrats to Rekkr.

It's petty, but what do you expect from Romero? The dude has never been known for his modesty or restraining his ego. Quite the opposite. Swinging his dick around has been his brand for nearly 30 years.

>>7151118
I found it shitty that he couldn't even get the name right and called it "Some viking thing, Reggar or something"

Half-Life is shit.

>>7149847
I dunno seems like a weird feature that I can't imagine being used. I played tons of zdaemon back in 2004-2010 back when I had way more free time in my life and when you're playing ffa you're playing ffa, when you're dueling you're dueling. Especially with the way dm plays in doom you don't "1v1 me bitch" in match cause it'll be over very quickly, you need a good 50 frag game. But maybe I am misunderstanding; if you throw the switches does it open the map back up to single player for the duration of the match or for just one player life (as in once killed, you respawn in the dm arena)?

>>7151114
Level design in both looks and gameplay. Plutonia was the best looking wad 96, there was not even competition. It still hasn't aged that badly with looks as the rest 90s wads. The gameplay is the real thing, that hasn't aged at all. Almost all modern top wads are still influenced by plutonia combat. Encounters are well designed, instead throwing monsters just there and there like in original doom 2 and in many 90s wads. Doom 2 had many new monsters, but plutonia was the first to craft challenging encounters by their combinations. Also the jungle theme is cool.

>>7150174
>3D momentum system
Yeah a lot of people forget that in doom you don't maintain speed in x direction while falling and all they did was put a constant deceleration factor that takes over any time you aren't holding a move button, but it's understandable because I can't think of any situations or maps in doom where that'd be something anyone would need to care about/notice

>>7151153
Fair enough, I'll have to give it another playthrough with an open mind. I think the reason I always rank plutonia lower is just the nostalgia of having played ultimate and doom 2 to death and everytime I revisit final doom is after I've given the originals a playthrough. Need to go in fresh with no expectations.

Welp, been about 2 fucking weeks or so since I touched Plutonia and I've finally decided to go back and try to finish it after reaching level 15 "The Twilight". I was fucking sick of playing Plut since the previous few maps had left a really bad taste in my mouth. No shame in admitting I had looked up a guide on how to beat it before booting it up again just now. The firing squad of chaingunners hitting before I could hit them and overreliance on far too many secrets to adquately handle all the challenges of the level just wasn't fun at all to me. Definitely my most disliked Plutonia map by far, even more than Speed. I skipped the secret level and plan on going back to it after I've completed the rest of the WAD since I'm well aware of what Plutonia's secret levels are like.

Still, the burn out from Plut lead to me finally getting started on Quake, beating all 4 episodes on Hard, and now currently playing through it again on NIghtmare, so it was probably for the best. I fucking love Quake so much.

>>7151121
Yes, he was being a petty bitch and (unconvincingly) trying to downplay it. If the dude knows the particular content of its level design, he definitely knows its fucking name.

Dude's fucking buttblasted.

could someone source me on romero talking about rekkr?

>>7150348
ARRRRR

>>7151060
Still DOSbox; but a reverse engineer sourceport is on the way; hopefully playable beta early 2021

>>7150571

>>7151118
>>7151121
Why he is even butthurt about this little thing? Like it's some grand achievement. Who the fuck cares about playing deathmatch in SIGIL anyway, he only inserted it because he thought it would let him get away with calling it a megawad.

>>7151192
Couldn't find it but came across this and it was just depressing to scroll through
https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/ko/article/1vt4DnYWjIz6T8KbegBs8G/nods-to-mods-interview-john-romero
Imagine the reiterated nu-version of something you created that defined a generation of media.. comes around to interview you about your throwback to the old days.. and you have to hold a straight face and answer their questions
>I did want to attempt to add some designs that were new – this is very difficult after 25 years of constant creation for DOOM.
Romero can't even give credit to the community for their innovation and has to blame the difficulty on it having been a long time
>The DoomEd tool I wrote for DOOM originally worked really well. DOOM BUILDER 2 is nicer because it has a lot of error checking and ways of editing that I didn’t have time to write back in 1993. But making levels with DOOM BUILDER today is very similar to making levels with 1993 DoomEd.
Ego can't let a single thing go. "doombuilder is better than the shit I used but only because I didn't have enough time and also it's not even that different than 93 anyway haha"

>>7151247
Kek Romero really is a piece of work. Imagine having an ego that big. What an ass.

>>7151247
You're getting some odd takeaways from those quotes there. Are you drama anon?

>>7151247
>I use a Mac Pro
Oh Romero, it is so brave of you to finally admit you're gay.

>>7151060
https://theforceengine.github.io/2020/12/04/TFE-Project-Update.html

Mid 2021 for a first release. It's a long wait. But it's looking real fucking nice.

>>7150705
>TNT that low
>Doom 2 at the bottom
I'd move both of them infront of Plutonia

>>7150174
I neither know nor care that Marathon's physics are more advanced than Doom's. You have conceded that Doom had the first rocketjump and have provided zero citation for your autistic assertion about 3D physics in Doom which I didn't even deny. My post stands.

>>7150348
I had a hell of a time with Plunder and Pillage. I wish it was longer. The same guy did Quest for Bin Laden.

>>7150879
this screenshots perfect

>>7151059
GZDoombuilder bugfix works on most operating systems.
https://devbuilds.drdteam.org/gzdbbf/
And then look up Doom mapping tutorials on youtube.

>>7151315
Why?

>>7150705
Plutonia > Doom 2 > Ultimate Doom > TNT > Doom 64

>>7151374
GZDoomBuilder is no longer supported, stop recommending it, you retard. You need to use DoomBuilderX or UltimateDoomBuilder instead, depending on whether you only planning to work with vanilla/boom or UDMF as well.

>>7151397
You're saying if I made a Doom 2 Doom style map in GZDoomBuilder, it wouldn't work in PRBoom+? Since when?

>>7151404
Where did I said it, you piece of abortion? True, I did not clarified that UDB can do anything while DBX is better for beginners to learn the ropes, but GZDoomBuilder should not be used at all, it is obsolete, abandoned, deprecated and replaced with UDB.

>>7151417
>Where did I said it
So it works out fine then, Rahim. Cool it before you blow a gasket and need to take a trip to the designated shitting street.

>>7151418
I cool your mom's ass with thermal paste from my leather tube, you mongrel.

>>7151121
>>7151118
Okay, I just realized it. It's not really about DM maps, he just decided that REGGAR is just too close to his original idea for Quake (the one he failed to communicate to id back in the day), and that's really the "thunder" he felt was stolen from him. Maybe he was actually thinking about giving that concept a go at some time in the future, but Revae's game came out too similar to what he has planned.

>>7151153
>The gameplay is the real thing, that hasn't aged at all. Almost all modern top wads are still influenced by plutonia combat.
Along with Scythe 2.

It's almost sad to me that the mappers who resonate the most strongly with the community to this very day are no longer around and moved on with their lives.

>>7151448
Smile that they were around to leave you works to inspire you to play or create something of your own.

Over/under shotguns > regular double-barrel shotguns > sawn-off shotguns > shit > piss > furries > Poland > four-barrel shotguns

>>7151472
>Over/under shotguns
Cringe. Side to side just like God intended.

>>7151481
Can you be any more of a pleb?

>>7150502
You must be playing Powerslave EX? The DOS port of Powerslave doesn't have this, seems to be something with Kaiser's version only.

>>7151485
I bet you like revolvers too, faggot.

>>7151472
For me? It's the folding shotgun

>>7151481
Based.

>>7151490
>he doesn't like revolvers
Embarrassing.

>>7151472
Gigachads use multi-barreled pump shotguns that eject a spray of spent casings with every pump.

>>7151503
Gigachads? More like tryhards.

>>7151505
Turok 2 had the most satisfying FPS shotgun.

>>7151472
I'll take a break action single barrel.

>>7151551
Poorfag please.

>>7149445
More stuff added to Macenwolf
https://www.moddb.com/mods/macenwolf/news/macenwolf-108-new-york-and-some-damp-prizon

Is Enemy Territory /vr/ now? Is anyone still playing it?

>>7151637
PC games up til 2007 are by vr updated rules
therefore even DOOM 3, Quake 4, MOHAA and so on are, as long as they have maps, single player stuff, mods and so on.

>>7150956
It was the firelav textures I was thinking of. I'll write the others down so I don't forget.

>>7151432
That's some pretty wild speculation.

>>7151153
>Plutonia was the best looking wad 96, there was not even competition
This is the only point where I disagree. Plutonia looks like shit to me. Ultimate Doom is the best good looking wad up to that point IMO. I believe that even Doom 2 looks better than Plutonia. But in regards to gameplay, Plutonia is king monster placement, no contest.
>>7151448
>Along with Scythe 2.
that's All time fav megawad.

>>7151337
Doom doesn't have rocketjumping and if it does its coincidence. Rise of the Triad was designed with the idea in mind and even requires it to get the good ending.

>>7151758
>Rise of the Triad was designed with the idea in mind
Too bad it wasn't designed with good game design in mind.

>>7151337
>Doom had the first rocketjump
No it didn't. Using rockets to increase your horizontal momentum to make it over gaps should've been called rocketboosting instead. Don't care for how long people have been calling it rocket jumping, it's wrong. RoTT and Quake were the first ones to have it proper.

>>7151773
It's a fun game and well designed within the limitations of the engine. I am looking forward to the new official source port.

how do I become good at pixel art?

>>7151805
You don't get good at it, you just kinda bullshit your way up.

>>7151785
>well designed
It's really not. Enemies are either boring or bullshit, weapons are all over the place.

Valiant map17 is the only map I don't like so far. Everything else was A+, but this map pisses me off. Big tall walls with no ceilings, almost designed to force cacodemos to block you from above, platforming sections with fly monsters with infinite height, no radsuit below, The Chasm-esque rails to walk across

>>7149707
Isn't the telefrag issue fixed in v2.1?

>>7151758
E3M9 is intended to be reached via rocket jumping.

>>7150970
Plutonia to me is like the first few levels of Doom Episode 4. Overdesigned levels with loads of beginner's traps like >>7150994 points out. Maybe I should point out that I don't dislike it, but it's probably the last one I'd pick if I was going to randomly pick up and play Doom again.
>>7150979
UV all the way.
>>7150993
I'll check them out, thanks.

>>7151847
That's not rocket jumping

>>7151854
It's crossing a gap using the knockback from an explosion. It's rocket jumping.

>>7151859
It's not

>>7151865
But it is.

>>7151871
if i push you off a bridge, you didn't jump. you got bumped and then fell

>>7149714
it was pretty fucking dope, yeah

Are there slaughtermaps for Quake or do 3d enemies prevent that?

>>7151865
>>7151871
>>7151952
lmao do we need to establish a /doom/ official definition of rocketjumping?

>>7151956
Check this out.
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/quck_demo2.html

>>7150958
Yuck
>>7151383
Swap 64 and TNT. And add like a million brackets between them.
>>7151849
The first two levels of Thy Flesh Consumed are better than every level from episodes 2 and 3, and better than half of episode 1.
and only slightly better than sigil's best levels

>>7151981
you guys rocket yourself to e3m6 secret exit?

lmao I just strafe run

Is there a way to play duke nukem with chunky pixel graphics? (That's not DOSbox)

>>7149443
Is there a mod manager for Doom? With the ability to create load order presets and whatnot.

>>7152000
>classic renderer in eduke32
>set resolution to 320*200

>that secret that puts you behind all these unsuspecting guys
pretty cool

>>7151262
Does this mean it'll also run Outlaws?

>>7152000
You can mess around with some Eduke settings. Besides running a low resolution, if you play in software mode there's a "pixel doubling" option for extra chunk.

>REKKR? More like GAYYR. It doesn't even have shootable eye switches dude!

>>7152014
Yes.

>>7151981
>not enough utility to be real in RoTT
It is literally fucking intended in the design, that is what the asbestos armor is for. Quake popularized it yes, but the first games to truly have it were Marathon and RoTT. I am not sure if it was intentional in Marathon but I would assume so. They released on the same day, December 21, 1994 and thus were both the first shooters to have rocket jumping.

>>7152056
Literally nobody has ever played marathon.

Please someone port Aleph One to the switch ;__;

>>7151997
Just press the button from behind lol.

gauss jumping is rocket jumping.

>>7152056

Is Sigil the official fifth episode?
Yes or No?

>>7152082
It's sixth, fifth is NRFTL

>>7152082
It's official in the sense that john romero said it is and you can choose to either agree with him or disagree with him.

>>7151153
plutonia for me is bread-and-butter doom gameplay.

at first i DID feel the traps were cheap, but pretty quickly (a) i was forced to understand the enemy AI in detail, (b) i was forced to develop a good "priority" system for enemies, (c) i learned to a bit cautious and not yolo everything.

after doing those things, the maps became very satisfying and felt skill-based and not cheap. i was able to beat some maps on UV blind and am not a skilled doom player, though i do feel plutonia helped me improve.

i really loved the maps and their tight gameplay. part of me thinks it's my favorite wad, it is just so pure and straightforward. i wish for instance i had versions of other wads, like eviternity and sunlust, with a "plutonia" type razor focus on small maps and tight, clean gameplay.

>>7152079
I think "Rocket Jumping" is pretty obviously only a rocket launcher firing at the ground and jumping to increase the knockback. You can't jump in Doom, you can only fall, so there is no rocket jumping there. I honestly believe that any claim that "rocket jumping" existed in Doom is inaccurate. Rocket jumping isn't in any Doom game other than Doom 3.

Weapon knockback includes everything that isn't called a rocket launcher, and it's cool. Gauss jumping, grenade jumping, Daikatana's shotgun, and Quake 3's plasma climbing all fit in this category.

Calling something rocket jumping without a rocket launcher being involved is fucking stupid to me.

>>7152082

every doom wad is canon now so whatever you want can be the official episode

>>7151192
DGC podcast.

>>7151253
It does seem like quite a bit of extrapolation. Doom builder isn't that much different than old wad editors (for vanilla mapping anyway) other than the 3D view. Not sure if doomEd itself had anything like that. A preview mode or what-not.
No reason to stir shit up tho.

>>7152134
>begrudgingly acknowledges that doombuilder is good
>ps: it's only better than my editor because I didn't have time to make my editor better
>pps: actually it's not even that different from 93
no tact, he had the last 25 years to make his own editor better if that's what he wanted, he couldn't even just say "yeah I use doom builder because codeimp did a great job, it's great that the community has such robust tools"

>>7152014
Outlaws sucks, you don't want to run it

>>7151192
It's in the recent podcast interview he did at Realms Deep 2020

metadoom has a new enemy
https://twitter.com/kinsie/status/1335955885349191683
i wonder if he has plans for the carcass

>>7151247
I have no doubts that a guy like Romero has a gigantic ego, but you're reading way too much into it. To me it feels like he's only drawing a parallel between his time working in Doom in 1993 and his time working on Sigil because that's precisely his entire experience with Doom, he went from the og tools and noone having done anything for the game to Doom builder2 and thousands of wads having been released, so of course he makes the comparison.
Meanwhile either you've been in the community for years so you've seen stuff grow little by little; or you're a Doom baby, who are notorious for not being able to put things into perspective.

>>7151180
I like how in that pic the guy in the 2016 spot is using the QC shotgun and the one in the QC spot is using the Eternal shotgun.

Impie, the Doom modder responsible for the Juno saga, Splatterhouse 3D and Strange Aeons among many other projects has been permanently banned from Zdoom forums for criticizing Black Lives Matter.

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=70864

And good Killing Time Doom TCs?

On that note, what is your favorite Doom TC?

>>7152163
Perhaps I am reading into it too much, I think I was in a bad mood in general + he talks about how he makes games 24/7 for like the last 30 years but still acts like he's a god his early successes. You ever check his wikipedia? Who is editing his credits list, there's just a list of games there and it makes it look like he personally developed them, meanwhile there are inclusions like red faction and I was like "john romero worked on red faction?" and if you follow the links it's like "John Romero devlops Red Faction port for the Nokia N-Gage like ???? Isn't that an important detail to include so that his resume isn't misleadingly bloated with titles he didn't actually create? But overall you're right, I need some sleep and to be less bitchy, thanks fren

>>7152179
>gets banned for criticizing it
>meanwhile in the very same thread a literal tranny makes 5 paragraphs arguing for it and talking politics and nobody blinks an eye

cool site

>>7152179
For fucks sake. This political shit seeping into our everyday lives and hobbies is getting out of control.

>>7151247
He's a cunt for making a snide remark shitting on a really well made passion project.

>>7152187
Anon, those mentally i'll psychopaths will off themselves very soon.
Irony that most of them are seething at /pol/ atm as the fucking biden shills

>>7152145
It only sucks because it's a fucking bitch to install and run

>>7152179
Can you archive.is it or post a screencaps? Says I have to register to see

>>7152179
Talking about politics in forums after GG is already pretty retarded. I haven't seen a single forum that hasn't had a powersurge of trannies exercising tyrannical control over the site.

>>7152184
If "Red Faction" is the title of the N-Gage version and platforms are not mentionned, then it's how it should be written, especially on wikipedia.

This stuff is also pretty common. See mid 90's magazines "this dev worked on Duke Nukem 3D and Quake"; yeah, he ported them to Saturn.

>>7152193
yeah. they're seething.

>>7152227
Alf go back to /mlp/ or the biden general
or try to off your self knowing that you will never be a woman.

and for the love of jesus, learn to meme.

>>7152238
you lost

>>7152182
This game is an absolute delight.
Only other thing coming to mind is Realms of the Haunting, but it's not a TC. It's another 'action-horror' in a similar vein as Killing Time.

>>7152196
I suck fucking ass at GIMP so forgive the shit alignment and sizing.

>>7152179
Even the original ZDoom creator became trans. Their forums are surely not a safe place to discuss gender issues. Off to the tranny-gulag you will go. Not to go full /pol/ here, but this is only the beginning. What do you think will happen anno 2030 when you make a tranny joke online? I've been locked out of my entire Steam library for less than that. Best to make local, DRM-free copies of games now rather than wait till you get banned from Steam or GOG or Epic Store over a 'xenophobic' remark.

>>7152238
how bout you off yourself knowing that muh god emperor of mcdonalds who's done nothing but beat his chest got his ass kicked by ol senile grandpa cornpop at the first possibly opportunity cause he's just that shit of a president. there's nothing more embarrassing which is why reality is being en masse denied by trumptards right now. i don't need to le shill for biden unlike you do for trump cause him being such an awful president himself is all the greater testament to trump's failure

>>7152251
the aforementioned webmaster "tranny" who did not get banned, image for ants I know but it was so fucking long I had to zoom out to capture it all

>>7152256
>responding to off-topic shitposting in earnest
>original off-topic shitpost gets banned for being off-topic
what's the problem here? zdoom mods are supposed to let off-topic threads skirt by cause they agree with them? or that posts that btfo them should be censored instead? kys losers

>>7152253
Oops, reply was ment for this guy >>7152187

>>7152251
Wild Weasel makes cool things sometimes, but dude's a massive tool. He shouldn't have the power he has, since he's got an obvious political bias. This should've been a closed thread and pretty much nothing more.

>>7152259
>political opinions I disagree with are shitposting but political opinions I agree with are not

Hmm.

>>7152268
>off-topic whiny shitposting is shitposting
yes.

>>7152256
>property is replaceable, human lives are not
Never you mind the fact that the first building burned down had a fuckin person in it. Plz ignore that.

>>7152256
>>7152251
Wait, what the fuck? Why was this ban worthy? It's off topic political shit, sure, but he wasn't nasty or saying kill all niggers or some shit. At worst they should've deleted all off topic posts and maybe timed him out for a day or so - and why the fuck does the wall of text from someone else get a free pass?

>>7152256

>>7152273
it's a retarded mentality to have anyway, human life isn't some super valuable thing regardless of context, someone being a piece of shit doesn't get the same level of protection and care as a random innocent person

>>7152276
give /pol/ an inch they astroturf the forum

>>7152256
>blacks are burning down buildings and looting walmarts out of desperation to survive

Yeah, that's why the healthy food is always untouched but the fucking alcohol and tv's are always gone. Stupid piece of lying shit.

>>7152256
>all I can say is....wow.
>there's a lot to unpack here
I'm not even done reading the beginning of this text wall and I already don't care to read the rest of this dribble.

>>7152253
Graf is a bitch for thinking lilith was no good, lilith was amazing. If the eyesore is too much for you, I can understand that, but if you go back and find his bitching it's pretty clear he's upset that it doesn't run on his precious sourceport lol

I apologize for derailing the thread, I just thought it was worth mentioning since he's fairly prominent in the modding community.

>>7152294
I don't even understand his autistic bitching about it. lilith works by fucking with code and exploits found in a specific version of zdoom, of course his updated engine wouldn't be compatible.

>>7152295
too late, faggot, enjoy shitflinging for the next 200 posts

>>7152306

>>7152273
>>property is replaceable, human lives are not
sounds like something said by rich people to downplay irreversable damages caused to small business, some owned by people of color
they're not even destroying actual police hq shit, just stores by poor black people they pretend to side with
>>7152295
it becomes less about doom and more about politics to them
it's fucked because doom in itself and its fan culture has a lot to take from
whether it's genuine fun and well design wads, source ports with a lot of features or the time people made a second wiki as a fuck you to wikia
they're reaching a level below the brand loyal r/doom drones
also ironic they still accuse sgtmark of toxicity (which in itself has some truth they never actually post) but still left graf in the platform while following the like of a certain indie dev that drove a mentally ill man to suicide
would say it's a good thing that archived posts and articles exist to expose/keep a tab on them, if it wasn't for the fact that kiwifarms and encyclopedia dramatica are still biased in their retarded ways

>>7152086
NRFTL is a Doom 2 episode.

>>7152327
I'm a tourist really

How is Hexen 2's enemy roster?
Did any Quake mod used any of them, like Doom mods using Heretic or Hexen stuff?

man that sucks, impie's Project Einherjar is my favorite TC by him and splatterhouse of course but man was the ban really necessary?.

>>7152332
itt consensus was already no. However at this point it should be expected that if you give answers like he did then someone will take offense. I am not saying that makes it justified, but if I were the one who typed out those posts, I would not be very surprised by a ban. I would have just gone on the defensive and said "that's your personal interpretation of the work/perhaps you're projecting"

>>7152331
Arcane Dimensions uses a few, fairly seamlessly at that.

>>7152179
Hall of Unpleasantness is extremely fitting name for this thing, but not in the way they intended.

>>7152263
I think he's pretty moderate compared to the rest of the staff there and is basically the only reason the community didn't die back in ~2013, the guy carried the place on his back when Randy and the entire rest of the staff just disappeared. I suspect this was a group decision, meaning pressure from Rachael and all her hand-picked cronies that he's stuck with. Merely banning the guy was probably the minimum they were willing to accept. Rachael owns the site and could just remove him if he opposed her on anything, so he's basically become a figurehead.

Explain Gearbox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnVMNXOFQew&feature=youtu.be

>>7152379
i watched it twice and i don't get it
but it's probably randy

>>7152306
hahahaha

everyone should chill and play plutonia

>>7152389
>first level is called "congo"
baka problematic desu

>>7152387
you can't reach the boxes with health and armor without exploits.

>>7152398
maybe level designers just messed up

>>7152251
So very very cucked

1. Is Hell Hunt based?

2. Why do the fucking weapons in Dusk just float in front of you with no hands?

>>7152358
He got stuck huh?

Just remembered that Doom 3 has like two mods based off Quake 1 and Hexen, like spiritual sequels.

>>7152379
Duke ep4 also has a couple of secret places that can't be reached without a jetpack, and there is no jetpacks in the level, in Critical Mass and XXX-Stacy.

same thing in Duke ep2 with unreachable atomic healths in Warp Factor

Shit gets changed during dev and they forget about stuff; sometimes several different mappers are involved too. In Duke they got away with it because you can get the jetpack from previous levels.

>>7152256
>BLM IS PEACEFUL, HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF MEDIA BIAS GOY? THEY PEACEFULLY BURN DOWN BUILDINGS, STOP MAKING SUCH A BIG DEAL ABOUT ARSON YOU NAZI.

>>7152179
>ZDoom Forums

Yeah, I'm a fascist. VINCERE AVANTI MUSSOLINI

>>7151805
By learning how to make normal art first on /ic/.

>>7152179
>>7152256
>>7152332
Here's the mod in question, I managed to snag a copy of it before it got taken down.

https://anonymousfiles.io/lblebHD7/

>>7152518
wasn't doomer boards made by people banned from doomworld?
is there an alt for banned zdoom users?

Being an esjaydubya on Doom of all places is pretty funny. I guess this is probably thanks to e-celebs bringing plebbitors in

>>7152535
the thing is that most of these people are older members, some of which behind certain sites or content
i feel like it's a mix of pandering to newcomers (probably including grooming potential) or just troll's remorse
from what i heard, linguica used to be a somethingawful goon
i also remember when he made a thread about that cuphead journo being bad at doom eternal, just so he could see people saying "wow this guy is bad and is paid for this" and defend him

>>7152371
Comparatively I suppose you're right, but none of them should be in the positions they are. People like that want to have the power to tell other people what to do which is why they probably shouldn't.
This ban was a bad decision You're right that regardless of his political leanings he hasn't really abused his power that I've noticed. It's mostly other mods. I guess knowing how he leans colored my perception a bit.

>>7152535
At least we can now cancel Icarus because he reviewed Splatterhouse3D and didn't said that orange man is bad and has small hands and table in his review of DrumpfDoom.

Where is Linguica from?

>>7152251
>>7152179

I don't understand why this was warranting a permaban at all. It's off topic political shit but it's only in response to other off topic political shit, it's not even remotely controversial or edgy and nobody else involved had any punishment meted out to them whatsoever. Permanently barring a pretty big content creator with a long history of contributing lots of stuff from the forums because of two off topic posts is a gigantic overstep.

Shit like this is why I stay on 4chan and don't go on forums, fuck getting banned for wrongthink.

>>7152572
Rachael probably wanted him gone, I remember him/her/whatthefuckever sperging out at him before for referencing hickock45 in one of his wads.

>>7152545
A lot of people who didn't used to have anything to do with politics are rabid about it now. Matt Uelmen, the dude who did Diablo 1&2's soundtracks, got banned from twitter for writing a paragraph about the ways he would torture Trump supporters given the chance.

>>7152468
Yeup, poor little dude

why is sigil so fucking confusing

>>7152358
>not using the vehicule's canon to shoot through the gap in the wall

>>7152590
BECAUSE ITS PERFECT REKKER IS SHIT STOP FUCKING TALKING ABOUT IT I AM GOD REEEEEEEEE

Has anyone ever tried to make a "regular" level for Turok? Like a typical doom or quake sized level? Rather than the massive sprawling jungle areas?

Would be interesting to see how crazy the combat could get becuase enemies are FAST AS FUCK BOIIIII on hard+

>>7152582
>A lot of people who didn't used to have anything to do with politics are rabid about it now. Matt Uelmen, the dude who did Diablo 1&2's soundtracks, got banned from twitter for writing a paragraph about the ways he would torture Trump supporters given the chance.
not just that but also people like dan o'sullivan or hbomberguy who used to be either trolls in certain forums (metokur) or throw the word "nigger" like it was part of their vocabory before they decided to reform their image and police others for saying less offensive things
there's changing as a person, then there's 180ing and being a hypocrite that acts even worse
even some comedians that did offensive jokes are now like this
not only do they act like a cult, you get the idea they only hate "authoritarianism" because they wish they were the boot stomping on someone's neck

>>7152591
>not using the vehicule
About that...

>>7152606
you can usually get out of those situations by steering the wheel harshly while going forward/backwards

>>7152609
No biggie, we're well past it anyways

>>7152582
>Rachael
Another tranny I assume?

>>7152609
It's better not to bother with vehicles, at least on the highest skill since that gets your killed pretty quick.

>>7152619
vehicules are awesome man; you just need to jump out quickly when a rocket/grenade/shadowninjaprojectile comes your way

>>7152619
Depends on the vehicle. I recently found out this one has a wall of invulnerability in front of it.

>>7152624
On lower skills. On highest you get swarmed, gibbed or hitscanned in moments when in a vehicle or turret.

>>7152534
I'm not sure, I don't really follow the Doom community much anymore.

>>7152518
Forgot to post a screenshot.

Did Judge Anon get burned out?

Seems like most modding projects people go real hard and then burn themselves out.

>>7152638
I always play SW
>NPNG
>katana start every map
>no saving in the middle of the map

The only vehicule part that's troublesome is the start of Floating Fortress; but it's also the only thing that allows you to kill the enemies there

>>7152179
Wow, fuck these totalitarian faggots.

>>7152648
Yeah and ? I also play since it came out.

>>7152657
>Yeah and ?

and you keep complaining about stuff in the game while assuming everyone who disagrees is a shitter who can't play

>>7152658
>while assuming everyone who disagrees is a shitter who can't play
Not him but what was this here?
>>7152591

>>7151981
>not enough utility
You literally need to rocketjump to get the good ending, in Quake you can go the entire game and never boost yourself once with an explosive and it doesn't really matter.

>>7152672
What do you think the number of people is who actually finished rott end to end and got the good ending? < 1000? < 100?

>>7152582
>>7152604
2016 and even prior (GG) drove vast swathes of people politically practically insane. Idpol issues magnified and planted in people's minds as the strictest matter of life or death on all levels means that people take perspectives personally first. The focus on individual statements as the primary force of power is an incredible psyop, it's managed to completely steer attention away in most cases from the People In Charge and direct it instead to RW/LW insectoids crucifying each other because some video game person did the bare minimum and read out loud a sentence or two saying trans people are humans/need to violently killed and their internet-addled brains pump back positive feedback for getting outraged online.

The bigger issue is
>zdoom forums

>>7152179
What's even in the mod?

>>7152693

ethnic cleasning 2

>>7152256
>>7152251
>>7152179
Fucking hell, Rachael is such a dogshit person.

>>7152582
>Rachael probably wanted him gone, I remember him/her/whatthefuckever sperging out at him before for referencing hickock45 in one of his wads.
The fuck for? He's an old man who shoots some guns and doesn't really talk about politics or society at all.

>>7152705
I'll be the judge of that.

>>7152273
Never mind that a person invests their time and body into making and attaining property.

>>7152707
because they are told by their party leaders that guns are bad

nevermind the sheer retardation of carrying that mentality into fucking Doom of all things

>>7152616
you know it

>>7152715
Yah. Complete nuttery.

So this zdoom forum political retardation stuff makes me wonder. Do they also develop gzdoom? If So ill move to crispy doom forever and never look back.

>>7152751
I don't think Rachael develops shit.

>>7152646
He's dead

In addition, all of Impie's files on drdteam.org appear to be gone.

This, of course, means pretty much every download link on his site is broken.

Considering that drdteam.org is managed by ZDoom forum staff, there is probably some relation between the current events and the files vanishing.

>>7152291
>there's a lot to unpack here
They love to say this. Its terribly cringe
>>7152785
Amazing, they didn't waste any time it seems.

>>7152518
this game is clearly inspired by real shit with CHAZ (Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone) and the fact the police couldn't get in and the constant shooting and shit that was happening in there. very brutal stuff happen in that place. maybe making a game about that event is too soon? idk i still don't think he should be banned and controlling the tank is awkward as fug

>>7152765
Graf Zahl develops GZDoom, hence the GZ. Graf is a tranny as well now.

>>7152785
>ban him from the forums
>by pure coincidence his dl's, managed by the same people, are gone

This shit makes me violently angry. Sperg about politics all you want, but trying to remove projects because the creator refuses to lick your asshole is going way too far.

>>7152794
Not too soon, who fucking cares?

>>7152808
them since he got ban'd lol

>>7152795
>Graf is a tranny as well now.
What the fuck, really?

>>7152785
>>7152793
>>7152805
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT, YOU WEREN'T KIDDING

https://mikestoybox.net/doom-maps/

LITERALLY EVERY DL 404's

>>7152814
ah this sucks ass man

>>7152785
do they not care about history or preservation?

>>7152821
lol

>>7152814
>>7152785
I just emailed him about this. Fuck the forums and fuck Rachael, I genuinely hope someone mistakes them for a real woman and rapes them in Minecraft.

>banning a guy and removing the links to his projects because he politely disagreed with you politically

I fucking hate the modern internet

>>7152785
wait, are the links just broken or are the files GONE gone?

If he doesn't have them backed up somewhere they might have actually deleted his shit permanently.

>>7152832
impie.drdteam.org

The files themselves are gone.

Come and see for yourself.

>>7149478
The graphics are awesome until you remember they only have front-facing sprites for enemies.

>>7152821
fucking kek

>>7152840
This. Sad because the art is great. Has anyone ever ripped these and drawn extra rotational sprites and used them in any mods or TCs?

this is still up
https://mikestoybox.net/

>>7152785
Wow, they went pretty far to unperson a content creator.

>>7152854
the download links 404

>>7152795
Doubtful, he still calls himself Cristopher.

here are the file names
https://web.archive.org/web/20201020083800/https://www.impie.drdteam.org/

>>7152785
wtf are they doing? Fucking idiots.

>>7152871
they obviously don't care about doom modding
just power over others