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>>7125371
starting with rtype, gradius, and darius will train your ass and get you familiar. my favorite old verticals are image fight and twinbee

>>7125371
Not so fast before we get into shmups remember he posts 150 times a day on discord but claims he can't find time to shmup consistently! Does that make sense?

>>7125413
Sounds like he's a secondary n poser. Simple as.

>Fixed shooter
Space Invaders style, single screen, wave based, often but not always without vertical movement
>Multidirectional shooter
There's several types, either ones like Asteroids or Robotron, started off as single screen but evolved to have big scrolling levels with objectives
>Classic vertical shooter
Vertically scrolling, focused on either aggressive enemies or fast bullets, big hitboxes, simple scoring, terrain exists but rarely as a hazard. See Xevious, Flying Shark.
>Caravan shooter
Subset of classic vertical shmups focused on scoring. Short fast paced score attack games (2-5 minute modes are common) where you have to kill enemy waves as fast as possible and hunt for a variety of secrets. See Star Soldier series and Macross 2.
>Terrain shooter
Usually horizontal, focused on environmental hazards. See Gradius and R-Type
>Memorizer
A shmup that forces strict memorization just for basic survival and heavily rewards knowledge. See R-Type and Psikyo games
>Checkpoint shmup
A shmup where you lose your power ups and respawn at a checkpoint, infamous for how difficult recovery is. R-Type, Gradius, Tatsujin Ou
>Yagawa-style
Proto-bullet hell, heavily emphasis on dynamic difficulty (called rank), requires unorthodox playstyles like avoiding power ups and intentional suicide to keep the difficulty under control
>Bullet hell
A lot of bullets, small hitboxes, complex scoring. See CAVE.
>VS shmup
Pretty self explanatory, though there's 2 types one is the indirect Twinkle Star Sprites style, the other is direct versus like you see in Senko No Ronde.

There are a lot of unique one off games like Gun.Smoke, and related styles like run n guns, on rails shooters and cabal shooters.

>>7125371
Play danmaku (cave bullet hells) and practice with save states and avoid discord and shmup communities with namefags. Stay anon, stay safe.

>>7125413
I don't do that fag

>>7125482
Another way to practice is play breakout style games.

>>7125371
Only good shmups are light gun rail shooters.
For starters play House of the Dead and Virtua Cop.

>>7125535

>>7125371
Look up shmup mame and try them.

yes I'm a 1cc collector how could you tell?

Try soldner x for your first shmup, wouldn't recommend playing a NES/SNES as a starter

>>7126030
>1cc collector
>straight
doubt.png !

Is Solar Assault a smhup?

>>7126046
Technically I guess but I think it's more like a flight simulator like starfox/ace combat

>>7126046
Rail shooter maybe?
Or maybe it falls into the same category as Space Harrier

>>7126054
Mart Kart would be a driving sim by that criteria

im on welfare but i press shmup buttons good

>>7126058
Yes.

>>7126061
Post replays

>>7126068
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIOaNFuS7tA

>>7125371
Well you've got your shoot em ups like Ikaruga and then you've got your shoot em sidewayses like Gradius and don't sleep on shoot em diagonals like Viewpoint or shoot em downs like Abadox

OP, before the thread devolves into discord drama and reheated memes, getting into shmups is often a question of a) what console do I have, and b) how comfortable/knowledgeable am I with emulation?

There are a lot of great shmups on steam (including a decent conversion of R-Type, per your OP). As well as many new and retro releases on consoles.

I think the biggest takeaway is to try a lot to find what style of game you like, and then practice a game you particularly like. Modern shooters tend to be bullet hell, where a small hitbox navigates huge bullet walls, while older shooters tend to use terrain and multiple weapons to force strategic positioning to counter threats. I like them both, but a lot of players tend to gravitate towards one or the other. Keep an open mind.

Secondly, the other takeaway is that the games are purposefully designed to be difficult, even the 'easy' ones. You won't beat them your first, second, or my tenth try. They're meant to be played and practiced so you get a little further with each try. Don't get down on not winning immediately, just enjoy the game play, and try to think about how to overcome obstacles that stop you, whether through killing an enemy that killed you more quickly, or putting your ship in a better position to dodge an attack or wave. If you focus on smaller goals you'll get better over time without burning out.

How do I get confident to play Cave brehs? I'm coping with dad shooters for years.

>>7125371
ok

1942
Rtype
Blazing Star
Pulstar

Slapfight
Raiden, Raiden II Raiden DX
Turbo Force

In the Hunt
OSCAR (also paltform)
hero of legend tomna

ESPER (NEO GEO)

metal black
truxton

Dragon Breed (<this one is really good)

ninga spriit (paltformer shump)

Change airblade

Macross.

>>7126097
they're games lol calm your autism down

>>7125371
>>7126130
play whatever looks cool

>>7126140
>dad snoozer list
I don't think OP is senile yet

>>7126130
I swear I've seen bullets go right through my ship in CAVE shooters. Dad shumps are more difficult.

>>7126130
>How do I get confident to play Cave brehs?
> I'm coping with dad shooters for years.
It could be too late. Dad shooters build bad habits. Best you can do is get a few easy Cave clears (Espgaluda, DDP 1cc) then start making excuses about Cave scoring and how you prefer ''fast bullets'' or someshit.

>>7126149
wtf anon made some good suggestions, especially rtype and in the hunt.
What doesn't qualify as a "dad snoozer" in your book? Some toho billion bullets at a loli junk?

>>7126149
but bullet hells are boring its just muh small hit box.

take Raiden, for example, the only shump where you can fire into player 2 and get a special green fire skinflint, which adds a whole dimension to the game.


or change air blade the only shump where you can be the boss

>>7126220
>Loli junk
Reminder that of you can't 1cc gundemonium you should just kys desu senpai

>>7126227
Based retard theres a shitload of bullet hells with unique mechanics, Guwange for example which has you control your character and their spirit that stalls and or cancels bullets at the same time and theres versus bullet hell shmups too like Senko No Ronde

I could not get past super rtype first stage, I'm a lost cause?

>>7126249
Not if you have the ability to learn and improve otherwise yes and not just in shmups

>bullet hells have t-too m-many b-bullets!
got em!

>>7125468
quality rundown

>>7125371
start with touhou