/vr/ - Retro Games

FULL STORY:
I'm up to General Kelbesque.
None of my attacks do any damage to him.
My first thought is that I must be missing a crucial item, but searching the entire area reveals nothing.
Then I have an epiphany... IT'S A PUZZLE BOSS!
I can open the gate behind him during the fight - I must be able to lock him behind bars!
What an awesome idea for a boss. And foreshadowed perfectly!
I haven't been able to attack any of the enemies in this area, so the boss fits this theme - And earlier, I had to prove my strength to an elder by pushing him back to the wall using just my sword.
That had to be it!

...Right?

Wrong. This is an RPG, not an action-adventure game.
What I actually need to do is grind for two levels (1900 XP).
Blue slimes are the only enemy nearby I can damage. 6XP a pop.
So basically, the only way I can proceed is by defeating 316 of them to get to Level 7.

Did I mention I fucking hate RPGs?

you never need to grind once in crystalis unless you're doing speedrunner shit or something

also you would've noticed you can't damage high level enemies unless you were skipping all the monsters to get to that point

and it never takes more than like a couple dozen level appropriate monsters to level which you'll kill just by progressing through the game normally

go be a faggot on >>>/r/eddit

>>7101614
>you never need to grind once in crystalis unless you're doing speedrunner shit or something
Not everyone is as shit at video games as you.

I enjoy rpg elements, but I enjoy spamming discord most of all.

>>7101609
If you're emulating there's a patch that removes the level requirements

>>7101609
>run past all the enemies
>get to boss
>too underleveled to fight him
>wtf i hate rpgs now
Luckily, they expanded /vr/ to include 6th gen consoles so you can go start a Halo thread where you'll be more comfortable.

Has any OP ever been BTFO as the OP of this thread?

because trannies like grinding for the illusion of progression

US releases of JRPGs weren't an everyday thing back then. Be thankful we got this game at all.

>>7101606
what's the best hack for this game

>>7102348
Neat. That would be ideal.
>>7102421
Why would I assume that I need to level up just to be able to damage enemies in this area?
No one in the game mentions it. The manual doesn't mention it. No RPG I've played works this way.
What's crazy is that some random dialog box locks you out of the area until you're "powerful" enough to enter.
I was Level 4 when I first made it to the boss.
Why did it let me in if I'm so underleveled?

>>7101609
Oh no 300 slimes? Oh God no that's impossible

>>7102859

OP this game is awesome and I love it, but I agree that the game shouldn't have done this thing to you. I don't know why people are trashtalking you. Well except that they are damaged 4chan creatures obviously.

Anyway I don't suppose you need to worry about this anymore in this game, right? I mean the problem was only that you didn't know about it. Or are you concerned that you'll have to grind, or that the game will be too easy? I can tell you now that it's a generally pretty easy game. Grinding is never a huge deal in it; there are certain locations where you can do it quite fast. But I guess you could start playing with a patch if you wanted. I mean, whatever.

Anyway be nice to the game, it deserves it even though it isn't perfect.

>>7102895
You're a pretty cool guy, anon.
Anyway, yeah. I'm not looking forward to grinding. And I'm a bit concerned that the game will keep using this arbitrary level requirement to make it last forever.
Apparently the Game Boy Color version removes this entirely.

Mostly I'm just kinda disheartened that the game leans on RPG mechanics rather than adventure ones.
I LOVE puzzles. And adventure games have some of the finest.

I'm tired of RPGs because they all play the same.
How many times is the solution just to grind for more levels - or at most, use an elemental attack. It's boring. It's uninspired.

Having a Puzzle Boss like I described would have elevated the game to no end - for me, at least.

>>7101609
I love me some Crystalis but yeah bosses being invincible with no explanation is terrible game design and some of the puzzles are basically impossible. in some ways its way better than Zelda but in others it's majorly flawed.

Ys and Xak do this too and it's annoying as fuck. Why aren't I damaging this boss? Oh because I'm not at the arbitrary level requirement! Oh I reached it after 20 minutes of grinding. Oops the boss now dies in 2 seconds!

>>7101606
>RPG elements
More like JRPG elements.

This game would be boring as shit without RPG mechanics.

>>7102550
>Has any OP ever been BTFO as the OP of this thread?
synthricardo seems to be getting #btfo on /vr/ daily. I think he's #1 for getting BTFO?

>>7104048
>grinding is how I solve rpgs
have you tried coming up with better strategies lol

>>7104415
this guy?

>>7101621
>crying because he's "being forced to grind"
>claims others are shit at the game

Crystalis’s hit detection makes it unplayable. Is there a patch for that?

>>7104415
>>7104418
Nobody here cares about your gay discord drama. Use a real chat protocol like matrix or IRC, you cum-guzzling faggot.

>>7101606
It was trendy/popular for a while in the NES era to shoehorn RPG elements into practically everything. But just because it might've created some bad results back then doesn't mean it can never work or provide interesting/fun results.

>>7104432
>nobody cares
and yet here you are, raging. funny isn't it.?

>>7104495
it's hit or miss;
terranigma did rpg elements right.

>>7104418
>this guy?
yes the shmup threads are comedy gold

>>7104048

Eventually you'll encounter a cave with a watery area right inside it that's full of cabbage-like monsters that barely move. Grind there to save time; it's quick. I think the endgame grinding area that speedrunners use is a short cave that's full of scorpions? Should be easy to recognize that one. So try it too, once you get that far. Assuming you keep playing (and don't apply a patch) I mean. It's really not a very big deal I think, but whatever, your preferences are your own.

I don't know why anon said that some puzzles in this game are impossible. I don't remember any like that. There are a number of puzzles... but yeah, this is mainly a running-around-and-fighting game. You don't find a lot of good story-and-puzzles games on the NES. I mean there's Maniac Mansion... Shadowgate comes to mind but that's just an arbitrary bunch of traps and locked doors and monsters crammed together without any plot. Hmm there's a King's Quest V port for some reason as well. But if you want great puzzles on that console then you're better off with Adventures of Lolo or something else like that.

People seem to think the Game Boy version is crap. I guess it changes the music completely for some insane reason or something? You probably shouldn't bother with it I guess.

>>7105949
>I don't remember any like that
Using the eyeglasses in the guy's storage hut to find the secret way to the lighthouse.

>>7106280

I remember the puzzle but I don't remember having any trouble with it as a kid. I don't think I cheated with Nintendo Power or anything either. Maybe I got lucky or something? Oh well, I guess OP can now refer to this conversation if it becomes a problem...

>>7101606
Had the Neo Geo CD project completed...we were to get a sequel to this.

>>7102859
>>7101609
I think the issue here is that early RPG elemental games were not properly planned and had badly done wall curves of grinding.

>>7107742
Listen to this man
Nowadays everyone has his own idea of balance and what is more or less grindy, but back then devs just thought "throw that in to make 'em play for longer, dunno"
Thats why you sometimes you have to grind your soul in one game but then cheese through other, or even the same

>>7106902
[citation needed]

>>7102421
>expanded /vr/
This board is doing it wrong. By expanding and adding 'generations' it becomes LESS retro.
The true way is to remove them so that the board becomes MORE retro with time. By now, anything pre-1995 should be declared not retro, and in the next phase SNES and Genesis should be phased out.
Eventually it will become a spacewar board before vanishing, allowing us to start again.

Why doesn't Mesia ever show up in waifu threads? Explain yourselves, waifu posters. She is a nice lady and has a cool headband. You don't think you're too good for her, do you waifu posters? I mean she's no Mae from Shining Force, but neither is Malon and you'd die for her. What's the deal waifu posters?