/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7099236
Prediction: first you will grow to love pinball, then you will be compelled to own a Harley-Davidson

>>7099247
Play pinball before and it's fine but gets old and most of them are the same thing. Already been in a minor motorcycle accident too so I'm done with that shit.

>>7099247
and after that?

>>7099253
Pic related was my gateway. It started with Fun House. I hope you're okay.

>>7099254
Smiles for miles

>>7099254
Death. Or something so like it that, to you, there will be no difference.

>>7099236
>Why the fuck do old people love pinball so much?
Pinball Machines release chemical components into the air that make senior citizens happy. So its between that and the loud noises these machines produce. Same reason why little kids are drawn to pokemon games. If you wanna be safe next time you visit your arcade, just block your nostrils. Dont inhale!

>>7099268
>>7099272
Join us. Take the "plunge". Fulfill your destiny as a wizard!

>>7099236
Maybe this is more your speed?

Because pinball is fun.

>>7099274
pwn3d

>>7099253
>and most of them are the same thing
tell me how i know youre a shitty player?

Id go one further and complain that if half the floor space is wasted by pinball, most arcades in north america that actually have video games will have a lot of the remaining space dedicated to boomercore 80s games. It's insulting to have people paying money to play Galaga when basically any 90s vertical shooter would be a massive upgrade

>>7099236
I'm 32 and I love pinball. I wish I lived near such an arcade but I'm a frenchfag so fuck me I guess

>>7099310
This. The amount of people who would pay to play space invaders and Pac-Man is dwindling quickly as they’re literally fucking dying.

>>7099310
I'll agree with this too. Having a few 80's games like Donkey Kong, Ms Pac Man, and Tron are fun, but I'm much more interested in 90's and newer games. I want good fighting games, a racing game or two, a shooting game like Time Crisis, NBA Jam, DDR, etc

>>7099267
>>7099273
These aren't retro, but how much wagglan do these games have? Are they playable with just a Gamecube pad?

>>7099408
you only use the motion controls to nudge and i dont think it supports gamecube controller

>>7099352
Where do you live, anon? There are 4 bars with a pinball in my town in northern France.

>>7099236
When you're good at pinball, the game is fun.
When you're bad at pinball, the game is over.

>>7099310
>find one of those illegal bootleg arcade mame machines at my local mall
>thankfully it's freeplay
>nothing but the typical early 80s games
i like galaga but come the fuck on the most interesting game on there was xevious

>>7099236
Pinball is a deep game if you investigate the different techniques and tactics and whatnot.
https://www.deadflip.com/tutorials/

>>7099236
>*posts* "why the fuck do people like games from their childhood" on /vr/
i want to choke you and myself to death

>>7099254
lemon parties of course

>>7099358
ffs we're 40 not 80

>>7100037
mfw I realized pinball isn't random

>>7100037
...is this fucking real?!

>>7100136
Yes. Try some next time.

>>7099247
I did the motorcycle thing first then took the pinball pill so I guess I did it backwards.
>>7099236
>Why the fuck do old people love pinball so much?
Not that old(early 30s) but having played video games my entire life and only having been a pinhead for about 6 yrs I gotta say:
pinball > vidja games

>>7099236
What do you consider "old", whippersnapper?

I always loved pinball as a kid and still love it today as a 25 y.o.

There's no experience comparable to simpsons pinball party or revenge from mars

>why are pinball games at a stern tournament
yeah

>>7100225
god, that picture brings back so many memories
i feel so bad for zoomers, things were so easy and fun before the internet
you could literally smooth talk a girl playing a game at an arcade, impress her with a high score and then bring her home for a quickie, and she had no phone on her, and you never knew if you'd ever see her again or if she'd even want to tell anyone
i miss pinball bros, there are no tables near me

>>7100136
>That realization you can control the ball
>That feeling of being a fucking jedi when shots go where you want
Ohhhh man this is how the pinball hook got me. Now I fucking have one in my living room.

>>7100118
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylSY_jQUjs0
>>7100136
You can look at pinball tournament footage and see what high-skilled play looks like

>>7100294
>i miss pinball bros, there are no tables near me
Don't be so sure...
pinballmap.com
https://pinside.com/pinball/map

>>7100236
I'm 28.

>>7100037
>>7100118
>>7100136
>>7100378
yeah none of this is new or interesting. pinball isn't awful, I just don't get how it's so successful compared to all other arcade games in the US.

>>7100236
Man I wish there was a way to emulate Pinball 2000. I'm very interesting in playing Revenge From Mars after watching Tilt: The Battle to Save Pinball.

>>7100037
>until the machine TILTs you in front of your gf

>>7100294
Build a virtual pinball or buy one of the arcade1up ones that are coming out.

>>7100626
Well it's the deepest mechanical arcade game. As far as pinball vs on-rails lightgun shooters or driving games, that's apples and oranges.

>>7100097
The man didn't stutter.

>>7099445
>When you're good at pinball, the game is fun.
The better you get the less fun it becomes. Pinball is only fun as a casual game. Flail about wildly and try to survive by fast reactions. If you want high scores you need to play boring.

>>7101275
>deepest mechanical arcade game
That's air hockey.

>>7100136
imagine being so low i.q that you couldnt figure out for yourself that theres an attainable skill in something running entirely on rules of physics.

>>7101493
>implying I want to pinch my index finger between the disc and the thing you hold

>>7099434
Recently moved to Grenoble from Lyon. All places I went to were either closed or with broken pinballs

>>7101715
Best luck living in Grenoble, it's gone so bobo-vélo-bicots that I hated every second there.
When the lockdown ends, maybe you should try the bar La Natation (or was it just La Nat'?), looks like there's a Transformer pinball there.

>>7100294
My city's got a pinball expo every year but it's been cancelled this year due to the rona.

>>7099236
>Why the fuck do old people love pinball so much?
old cunt here. why? because it's awesome. but modern tables with lcd screens are peak homosexuality. they should go back to using the dot matrix displays. they are much nicer on the eyes than a glaringly bright screen in your face.

>>7099253
>Play pinball before and it's fine but gets old and most of them are the same thing
zoom zoom

>>7100381
>closest is around 25 miles away
>it's a single walking dead table at some zoomer game center thing
it hurts

>>7101740
Already tried it, actually I live like 300m from it. Pinball still here but good luck making the guy turning it on.

>>7101962
Oh and there is 'joute et jeux' also, thry have an attack from mars upstairs but the fuckers don't want to turn it on supposedly because it's too noisy...So it's just a rotting pinball now. Mofos

There's just something truly beautiful about a well designed pin that no arcade game can compare to; the look, the feel, the craftsmanship and that real tactile feeling of working moving parts that aren't just pixels or images on a screen.
And some pinball rulesets are deeper than any fucking arcade game.

>>7101962
>>7101970
Seriously?
That's pretty damn strange (and retarded), since bars usually don't own the pinballs, they have it through an operator who usually changes the machine once in a while.
Can't you just buy a beer and turn the machine on yourself?

>>7101994
Transformers is under a monstruous pile of chairs and tables so I guess it's also broken, I dunno I will ask the guy. AFM is plenty functional but 'joute et jeux' is not a bar, it's a mancave hole for Magic cards players and they own the pinball. May try to just buy it from them

My dad actually owns three machines one of them is Revenge From Mars. It’s a pretty wild machine with that ”quirky” humor. I think he even updated it so it has some of the extra minigames they made after release. The 2000 series was a nice idea the update the pinball market, but I guess it was a bit too late to the market.

>>7100037
>tfw ball goes right in the middle as soon as it launches and there is nothing you can do

>>7099310
>>7099401
I wouldn't pay for any arcade game pre-1987 t b h.

>>7101489
>If you want high scores you need to play boring.
This is true for shmups too and basically all games where you play for high score.

>>7102086
I'm no pinball expert but isn't the right tactic to nudge it to the side when that's about to happen?

>>7102284
>the right tactic is to slowly destroy the inner workings of machine, causing the owner to have to pay significant $$$ to service it or buy a new one

>>7102059
Yeah, just ask, at best it'll be a retarded boomer who can't change a pinball fuse and think it's broken.

>>7101493
Air-hockey is a single machine, pinball is a genre of different machines.
>>7101489
But that's wrong...
>>7102086
Slap the right side of the machine to make the ball go to the right flipper, or slap the left side of the machine to make it go to the left flipper.
>>7102371
Slap saves don't really damage the machine. If they do, it's only by some unmeasurably small amount.

>>7102557
You have to admit it's bad design though to have to slap a machine. And they have TILT as a default feature because of the constant abuse pinball machines got otherwise. If you went to a convention where people donated their pinball machines for the day, I'm sure they wouldn't approve of you slapping it.

>>7102561
Slapping and nudging is allowed per tournament rules, and is considered by most people to be an element of normal play. Something as drastic as a death save is pushing it (pun not intended), but by in large manipulating the table is considered part of Getting Gud

>>7102561
>You have to admit it's bad design though to have to slap a machine.
Not really. It's a physical system, not a video game, and being able to bump it fits well with that. Tilt mechanisms make it work like an actual game mechanic.

>>7102557
The one where you catch the ball on the end of the flipper on way down and stop all its momentum dead is the most based pinball skill.

I went to a pinball meetup and saw it irl and it was like peering into the matrix.

>>7099236
>Why the fuck do old people love pinball so much?
Thank you, OP. You could have said 'boomer', but you took the much less lazy, less stupid route.

>>7099254
Once you reach the pinnacle of basedness, you mean? A quiet, peaceful death, surrounded by loved ones.

>>7099310
>newer things are always better
What are you doing here? Go back.

>>7102561
I have been to such conventions and it is common-place for machines to be slapped and nudged, and I have never heard any owners complain. I once heard an arcade operator complain about a shake-save at an arcade, but that's it. If it bothers them, they can just adjust the tilt bob to be more sensitive, and then people won't nudge.
>>7103261
Those aren't that hard to do. Just try to meet the ball at the moment the flipper reaches the height of the flip. It works because the flipper actually goes past the held-button point by a few degrees and then back down when you press and hold the button.

Which is the best pinball vidya? The FX games seem to maximize the idea of having aesthetic and official branded machines. I've got the 3rd installed but not played yet.

>>7104643
FX's physics are dumbed down outside of Williams machines in classic mode.

>>7104643
pic related. the "ultra" version on Steam is a little lazy but looks great, and is recommended.

>>7104643
Slam Tilt is still pretty great.

>>7099279

>>7103285
Yeah man street fighter 2 gets all the hype but zoomers don't understand the soul of street fighter 1, just because it's NEWER doesn't mean it's BETTER, 2 different things!

>>7099236
God man, if I ever find a pinball machine in the wild it will be a dream come true. Always wanted to play on and own a real pinball machine. There was one I saw online a long time ago based on "The Addams Family" I bet its ridiculously expensive now.

>>7106237
It is, both because all pinballs are now worth way too much, and because The Addams Family, despite being the most produced pinball ever, is still highly sought after. But hey, it's a really great pinball unless you're a "tournament" turbo autist.

>>7104657
I wished Big Race USA had gotten this treatment. I always liked it more than timeshock.

>>7104643
If you really want to get deep into pinball and have the time, Visual Pinball absolutely murders FX3 and it's free.

>pinburgh dead and buried
press F

>>7106772
You'd think goroner ruined the pinball machines or some shit. Just spray them down with alcohol after use. It is that hard to do?

>>7099254
If you are a man, you will find the clitoris. If you are a woman, you will achieve True Orgasm.

>>7106237
reposting these links from higher in the thread:
pinballmap.com

https://pinside.com/pinball/map

I keep seeing people shitting on the announced deeproot original themes, and some of them do deserve it like that Old Testament themed one, but I think the Yeti one and the Merlin's Arcade one look interesting. We need more original themes and not just a theme slapped on a whitewood.

>>7106993
Agreed. Also I think the Old Testament would be a cool theme for a pin. It's different and weird.

>>7107020
It's too weird and it's just asking to piss people off.

Pinball fucking rules.

>>7099254
ray kurzweil grants you immortality and you force another 10000 generations to endure your music

>>7099236
If you give them a try and find a good machine you'll change your tune.

What is the best Pinball simulator for PC?

>>7107489
VPX is freeware.
Pinball FX 3 for something you pay for.

>>7099236
>but arcades in the US are like 70% pinball.
It's usually the other way around in a lot of places, so it depends where you're at.

You unlock this door with the key of imagination

The thing I notice is that Pinball people never talk about physical releases past the 90s.

I agree, pinball is stupid. Give me 3rd or 4th gen any day but fuck pinball.

>>7109371
Because most were dead by the time the 2000s hit

>>7108949
Confession time: I dislike Twilight Zone.
I feel like 80% of the game happens in the upper/middle right corner.

>>7108949
>2 dollars 1 game
The fuck is this rip off place

>>7106237
I played a fuckload of Addams Family as a kid. My older brother is insane at pinball and would often play that one.

The Maaa-muuush-kaaaaa

If no one else played this one, there's something wrong with you guys.

>>7111787
>Stern

>>7111787
>south park

>>7108949
Gaming Museum near here has this one, it's pretty cool.

>>7107130
This game and Mideval Madness are the best pinball tables. I practice them on Pinball Arcade for WiiU before going to the place near me that has 'em.

>>7106542
It also requires me to change my monitor orientation and stupid shit like that, so, no fucking thanks.

>>7099236
The '90 Williams tables are absolutely fantastic to play with their graphics and their sounds. Top tier atmosphere if you can call it that.

However the vast majority of tables before that era are way too primitive and lackluster to be all that enjoyable, and everything after that lacks soul.

Oi gov'nah you got a loicense for that pinball?

Anyone fans of balls of steel? fav table in the game?


>>7104657
lazy? how?

This one got me hooked on pinball for a while.

>>7106542
>>7107537
Do Visual or FX let you rotate the screen 90/270 degrees so you can play on your side on a widescreen?

>>7113429
For me it's the U-turn: intelligent, nihilistic, and with a wicked sense of humor.

>>7103272
>surrounded by loved ones.

Not with covid.

>>7114563
Did they have to make rape so hot in this?

>>7114573
Raped? She fucked a bar full of guys then she turns round and blames them for it? Listen lady, she loved it, she had an audience, she did the show of her life!

>>7099236
>I want to go to an arcade and play some actual games but arcades in the US are like 70% pinball.
Stern still exists and still makes and services new games.
Konami is the same with Pachinko in Japan.
Arcade machines are basically antiques now and are very valuable, and owners aren't keen on letting strangers bust up their $10K+ machines. Commercial pinball machines generally cost $8K or less. More affordable, better profit margins, etc.

>>7114573
To be fair, they make you sit through nearly 2 hours of bullshit before we finally see it.
Gotta finish your vegetables before you get your dessert.

Please >>7114440

Are pinball devs/fans too retarded for this basic feature?

>>7114512
genuinely the most fucked-up post i've ever read

>>7114440
Not sure what you mean by this but visual pinball is highly customizable so probably. You can also rotate your computer screen in the settings menu or with keyboard shortcuts.
>>7114512
Black Knight 1 also had a U-turn like thing. But Black Knight: Sword of Rage had no such feature. Unless you count the loop on the upper playfield. Which I don't.

Also, to those of you who are discussing that movie, I hate rape and I'm glad it's illegal.

>>7101635
The paddles have a raised lip for expressly this purpose anon, you're just holding it like a mangled troglodyte.

>>7099310
That's why I'm happy barcade/barrestaurants are becoming a thing. Set all your cabinets to free play, charge like 5$ at the door and sell food/booze/whatever.

>>7099236
It's fun and simple and finding a pinball machine is sorta like finding a payphone these days.
It's anachronistic and demands the memory of a specific time period and flavor, even if you're some half-dead zoomer that doesn't really understand it.
It's the same as what movie theaters'll be in a decade.

>>7116976
>It's the same as what movie theaters'll be in a decade.
That will only happen if enough people subscribe to all the streaming services. Right now there's millions less people who've subscribed to Disney+ than people who've contributed to the billions they made last year.

>>7099236
I honestly always thought pinball was overrated, but that was when I only ever played shit tables and before I actually "understood/got" pinball.

>>7116976
>It's fun and simple
its not simple at all though to get good, some tables scoring systems are absurdly complicated

>>7109371
Because Williams, almost unanimously considered the best pinball manufacturer, closed down their pinball division in the late 90s. Stern was the ONLY company making new machines for about 15 years, and they kinda suck most of the time.

>>7107130
Really hard to find machines that elaborate that aren’t some movie license crap.

>>7117545

>>7099236
>70% pinball
more like 90% mobile games

>>7102371
You already paid the owner to play and machines are designed with that feature in mind. If he didn't prepare for amortization costs, it is his problem.

>>7117517
ironically stern is comprised of ex williams, bally and gottlieb staff

>>7117982
Then why are they table so stale and boring?

>>7118207
Because it's not solely the Bally/Williams guys. That and they're approaching 70, or in the case of Steve Ritchie, is 70.

>>7118221
I find Steve Ritchie so overrated... but I guess it's just that his flow really doesn't click with me at all.

>>7118306
Not all the Steve Ritchie tables are good, i'd say his best works were stuff he worked on after T2. I mean both the Star Trek TNG and Star Trek Vengeance tables are pretty good, ST Vengeance really rewards those who can shoot fast. No Fear is probably my personal favourite Ritchie table.

>>7118207
Ghostbusters is pretty good though. Too bad that John Trudeau got busted for having CP and no longer works there. You're not entirely wrong on some modern Stern tables being a bit too samey and boring at times. We need some wackyness.

>>7118306
I find a lot of the popular designers overrated, especially Lawlor and J-Pop. My favorite designers are Dennis Nordman and Barry Oursler.

>>7118386
I'll give them a try. I'm more familiar with his alpha tables.

>>7118394
Yeah, Trudeau made some really great yet overlooked tables like Black Rose and Judge Dredd.

>>7118480
>Judge Dredd
I fucking love that table as well. Just look at this crazy madman of a table. You got loops within loops and TWO launch lanes and a spinning disc to hold locked balls for one of the multiball modes. Just want to go straight to multiball? No problem bro for an extra credit you get to play the SUPER GAME and you get balls out the wazoo.

>>7118551
I know, anon. I'm really happy that I got mine for a good price, it's so much fun.

>>7114563
They're totally going to break that machine

>>7118442
I feel like a lot of designers (Lawlor and Steve Richie specifically) let their successes get to their heads a little bit. Really, I feel like the only reason that Lawlor or Steve Richie had any success back then is because of the people they worked with; Lawlor leaned on Larry DeMar a whole lot when designing his most successful games while Steve Richie's samey layouts were brought to life by Williams's art and sound designers, which Stern obviously lacks. Oursler is criminally underrated; he worked incredibly well in teams (with Python Anghelo most notably) and consistently made games that are just plain fun to play. He'd probably fuck it up if he ever returned to the pinball scene for the same reasons, but he seems to be enjoying his retirement for the time being

>>7119753
Oursler is returning to deeproot. Food-themed pinball seems like a cool theme.

>>7120316
also this

>>7120320

>>7120324

>>7107130
>>7113429
>>7118551
jfc what I wouldn't give to play these tables irl

>>7102561
it's not bad design. it's part of the game. pinball designers build games with this in mind. here's a video of well known pinball designer pat lawlor explaining it in the first few seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj8UJvdeau0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Lawlor

>>7120316
That looks so incredibly dull and mobile-tier shitty.

>>7120421
Come to my house and bring a few beers anon, we'll play pinball.

>>7120421
I use to live next door to a pub with Arabian Nights. Would always play a few games while waiting for food. The damn ball would get stuck often and I'd have to tilt it just to make it come loose.

They had Indianan Jones pinball too, but it didn't compare to Arabian nights.

>>7102561
Slapping is apart of it and pinball machines require a lot of maintenance. I'd just talk to staff if there was ever any problems and sometimes email the company who service the machines.


Anyone ever play ACDC pinball? I always heard good things about it.

>>7120316
oh well in that case oursler is 100% going to fuck it up, the poor guy

>>7120723
I have played ACDC many times and it is good. Nice backhandable ramps.

>>7118614
Lucky find anon, how is it for maintenance? Any issues with the Deadworld and the Crane because of general wear and tear on moving parts?

>>7120316
If it's fun to play good on them for taking a risk on an odd original theme. It reminds me of old originals like Road Show or Fish Tales.

>>7121391
I've had the machine for more than a year now, and surprisingly the Deadworld and the crane always worked flawlessly. I really should open the gearbox to make sure there's enough grease in there, but...
Never had too much maintenance to do, it runs really smoothly. And it's actually enjoyable to service it, because of how easy the widebody pins are to work on: you can pull the playfield toward you, and there's a metal structure underside of the playfield so you can let it rest on the lockbar.

Would recommend, anon. It's not even overpriced because so many people shit on it since there are no bumpers.

What's the most difficult table for you guys? Not for reasons like lack of drain save but just difficult shot wise or layouts. For me it's probably the Dr Who table just because you have to land three skill shots in a sequential order just to light extra ball and trying to light the time expander locks can result in a centre drain not to mention the flippers being a fraction smaller so the centre drain is a bit larger than normal. Like the whole table just seems designed to make things bad for you if you are not on point.

>>7121471
Always wanted to try this table desu. Looks a bit bland layout wise, but, I do love me some Doctor Who.

The only pinball game that matters:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyyn5rvmJ9I

>>7121471
big buck, hard as fuck table.

>mfw waiting for arcade1up to release their williams virtual pinball machine

>>7121851
Just make your own better one

>>7121869
for 550? Please tell me how to make a virtual pinball machine for 550 that is atleast 56 inches tall. Any virtual pinball machine I have seen is essentially just a gaming PC shoved into a pinball cabinet. A gaming PC is a lot more than 550. Even guides online put the cheapest cost of a non-tiny virtual pinball machine at over a grand. If there is actually a way to make one for under 600, I'd love to know.

>>7099310
>space wasted by games I play at home with MAME + fightstick
Gun games and other unique cabinets only please

>>7121876
I've put mine together piecemeal and spent probably around 600 bucks on it. Empty cab only cost 100 bucks and a refurb HP omen for like 400 and a TV from bestbuy for like another 100. maybe 20 bucks for arcade buttons

>>7121824
The side-loop shot is fun. Maybe it gets boring once you master it.
>>7121835
deeproot is making a physical version of Space Cadet, except they changed the theme to be about gladiatorial combat.

>>7121960
Why would anyone pay to own such a bland and boring table?
Never understood the nostalgia meme behind this.

>>7121975
Because if you're really rich, 5k is like 50 dollars to you.

>>7121975
Which table are we refering to?

>>7122442
Space Cadet. It was already simplistically dull and boring in 1997.

>>7111787
>tfw you get the Mr Mackey Bonus

>>7121876
>A gaming PC is a lot more than 550
Only if you're trying to push like 4k graphics through VPX. If you're thinking of buying an AtGames then you clearly don't care about graphical fidelity.

I'm 24 and I love pinball. The real mechanical feel, the simple yet complex gameplay loop

>>7104643
Any of the Crush games (Devil's/Alien/Demon), not retro but I enjoy the Zen Pinball games.

I like more gamey pinball games desu

I'm not sure. I only want one pinball machine, a Williams Blackout then the rest would be retro cabinets.

>>7104643
FX's issue is it's video game pinball. It doesn't use real physics, all tables are much easier by having the flippers closer together, so it is much harder for a ball to fall out. Side pockets have a billion saves, so they are irrelevant on most tables. There's also awful shit like badly animated 3D models on the board, ball trails, score popping up etc. Some of those can be disabled, or avoided in classic mode. The williams tables are the only exception. I'd suggest those ones if you play FX3.

>>7120709
Williams Indy is way better than Arabian Nights. Stern Indy is pretty mediocre.

>>7103101
KNOCK THREE TIMES

>>7123464
I didn't like the gun that launched you off and found the game hard to figure out in comparison to Arabian Nights.

>>7118394
He boned family children

>>7118551
Dredd was designed way cooler but the German distributor was all mad. Might be erased from history now that wherever he is he must rape.

>>7118394
this seems to be a bit of an issue with pinball... in my neck of the woods the guy who fixed and played the machines was found with the largest collection of cp they'd ever seen and another guy who's amazing uses the initials "pie" which coincidentally is "pedofile information exchange" a weird publication from the 70s.

>>7123538
Arabian Nights is way too fucking easy. Most of the modes can just be skipped because you can get jewels from wishes.

>>7099254
Join the Tea Party and ask for a recount in Nevada.

Guy who ran a pinball league in my country opened a Barcade 2 weeks before the coronavirus left China.

Rip.

>>7118551
The second launch lane is literally useless though and a total waste of space. Its used for a shitty 5 million (low score on this table) bonus game.

And the giant spinning planet is noisy as fuck and makes a grinding sound, took up so much space and view it's also retarded. AND it's prone to breaking down constantly and jamming balls to the point most people install unofficial code that just disables it from spinning and bypassing the ball lock altogether.

>>7123538
I don't like the gun either because really enjoy manual skillshots, but it's still an incredible table.

>>7123543
While I hate germans, and germans automatically thinking they're qualified pinball designers, I'm glad they replaced the system, because having one or two balls on the ring even after your game is over would tick off my autism so bad (the crane doesn't clear the ring at the end of the game).

>>7123695
>grinding sound
Well it's a fucking motor, anon. You might want to grease the gears a bit if you're worried.
Mine never broke down and never jammed any balls. I think you're wrong, most manchildren mod the ring to physically lock the balls, like it was intended.

My only pet peeve with Judge Dredd is that there are no time-limited bonus depending on which inlane you go to.

>>7123674
Buy his machines for cheap!

>>7123741
Does the left launch lane be used for anything but that shitty air raid shot? Becuase holy fuck what a waste of space and time.

>>7123784
No, it's only used for the air raid.
What would you have designed to replace it?

>Visual Pinball
This project is hot garbage. While the tables physically look nice, they're not 3D (i.e. you cannot flip between different views while playing). And the physics are absolute garbage, coming nowhere close to approximating real life pinball gaming. And don't get me started about the pain to install this properly (require pinmame) configuring it and putting together all the bits and pieces to get it to work. Not recommended!

Play FX3 like a true wizard!

>>7123919
>3D pinball
What's next? Thinking pincabs aren't for pathetic cucks?

>>7123919
VPX is almost exclusively for putting into cabinets now.

>>7118394
>We need some wackyness.
While I'm still 60% convinced deeproot is some kind of tax scam I do like the little bit of wackiness we're seeing at least with RAZA

>tfw live in Seattle and our cucked out governors banned all arcades for the foreseeable future due to covid

>>7123810
I wouldn't have it at all. It's an entire lane that doesn't do shit, makes the table larger and kills momentum dead of the game.

>>7124416
Someone in Issaquah has been posting an Attila the Hun with a spare playfield for like 2 weeks on craigslist and now it's down to 1,100. You could probably talk him down.

>>7124401
>VPX is almost exclusively for putting into cabinets now.
That's a total betrayal of all the work the community put into making it the best PC pinball ever. Seriously, they have recreated all the best tables from back in 1795 up until the latest releases.

>>7123919
>used to play Visual Pinball over 10 years ago
>look it up becuase of this thread
>you still have to deal with their autistic dowload system on their forum to get tables
Haha fuck this. Get Pinball FX3 or even Pinball Arcade (the original version with all the tables, now a piracy only exclusive)

>>7124481
I do no get the autism they have with roms being the same download as the table. It seems to exclusively be to be slightly annoying to keep people out of the hobby. And they have a weird morality where they don't see it as piracy?

>>7124416
Good.

>>7121824
You wouldn't be at fault for saying it looks bland but the Time Expander thing there raises up for two different targets, first time for some domed targets you need to light up to get to the second part that has three hole targets that you need to score all three on.

>>7123695
I find the second launch lane is actually helpful for one other thing and that is in multiball when balls go down the lane it gives you some small time reprieve especially when you're dealing with like a 6 ball multiball so you can setup a shot.

>>7123540
I'm not defending his actions just saying it's too bad it turned out he was a pedo.

>>7123553
That's pretty disturbing....I had no idea it was this prevalent.

>>7124860
This isn't exclusive to pinball.

Pedophilia and child abuse is simply more prevalent in all facets of life than we're aware. It's in literally every institution, hobby, career. It's all around us everywhere.

>>7124969
There's a comic writer named Gerard Jones who was convicted and imprisoned for child pornography. I heard he had videos uploaded to his youtube account set to "private". And his email address was something like eightistheneweighteen
Although now that I'm saying that, that seems really crazy. Did he ever use that email for work?
If you've ever heard of a joke superhero named Arm-Fall-Off-Boy, Gerard Jones co-created him.

>>7124409
Have they even released a table yet?

>>7100294
based and boomerpilled

>>7126778
No but they've been showing RAZA game play recently and its looking fun.

>>7126238
His run on GL was in the middle of being reprinted when all that went down

>>7099236
Arcades in the us are 30% pinball at best stop exaggerating

last bar in my town with a pinball machine got shut down and replaced with some awful middle class bougie shit because the owner was selling coke from behind the bar
kinda miss going there, picking up a half gram and downing a few cheap belgian beers while playing pinball

Has anyone ever played Baby Pacman? It was the first and only hybrid I've ever got the chance to play.

>>7127392
I have. I have also played Granny and the Gators.

Baby Pac-man was... okay. Granny was just awful.

>>7127392
So how's it like? You get to play for a level if you make certain shots or something?

There's been an extremely weird Q*Bert pinball, too.

>>7104657
The Pro Pinball series is on Steam?! Ayeee!

>>7122889
Sounds like a good introduction to Pinball games.

>>7124481
>>7124509
Why doesn't someone just fork the project to make it user-friendly and PC instead of cabinet orientated?

>>7128184
I don't know man, honestly the whole community associated with VPX blows. They're all assholes that have been the same assholes doing it for 15 years. If someone else just took over and made a better fork I'd be all over it

>>7128206
Would love to see them seethe about it on there forums

>>7128129
This guy gives a pretty good demo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEX7TqjW3nU

What are some good pinball kinos?

>>7128580
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DthtDjhqVOU

>>7116959
>I have tiny hands and you should too!

>>7127392
Well that looks weird.

>>7124969
No but it is clearly way more prevalent in these hobbies that appeal to dorky ocd loners for obvious reasons i guess.

>>7124860
heres the article

https://www.somersetcountygazette.co.uk/news/17550632.edward-brooks-minehead-sentenced-23-months-prison/

>>7124969
the shmup community for example is littered with trannys and pedos and openly so.

>>7128562
Thanks for the link, anon. Looks like both gameplay work together really well. It's a shame that it's a simplistic game and a simplistic pinball. I can only dream of a Shinobi hybrid.

>>7129927
Shmups generals are possibly the worst thing on /vr/. Usually full of edrama or talking about replay videos. It's either people who keep replaying the same game they already completed over and over for score, or "fans" that don't really play at all, just want to be part of their community and servers.

>>7130893
>or "fans" that don't really play at all, just want to be part of their community and servers.
I can understand why some cutie cosplayer would be like this, but apart from that what advantage is there to being a fan of a game you don't even play?

>>7122889
>badly animated 3D models on the board
Can't imagine how full of shit you have to be to say that on /vr/ of all places. They're absolutely fine for what they are, table props.

>>7130957
Feeling that you're among the "hardcore" who obsess over one (1) genre.

>>7131045
Yet nobody asked for them

It's fun- I played pokemon pinball all the time growing up so I see the appeal

>>7131045
I thought you were able to turn those off in classic mode. They censored some tables which is much more gay.

>>7131201
>>7131460
Still doesn't mean they're badly animated. It might even be uncanny if they looked like actual game/movie animations.

>>7131045
If they could be turned off, there'd be no issue.

>>7121879
Only good post in this entire thread

>>7128184
>>7128206
>>7128515
I'm in one of the VPX facebook groups to get beta tables earlier and they are a bunch of shitheads. I don't even try to interact with these autists, just take their shit and go.

>>7132592
What are they like? Any screencaps?

>>7133662
The creator of the group will only help any one with vpx issues via Skype screensharing and only if you send his wife flowers.

>>7133835
Top fucking kek

>>7133835
Wew lad, it's just as bad as guildmasters in Ultima Online who refused to acknowledge your chat messages unless you made the bowing emote.

>>7134120
>>7134231
Keep in mind this is not even people who are making the software or tables, just guys that compile it.

>>7133835
That's hilarious

>>7136872
>>7135394
>>7134231
>>7134120
They are also super anal about keeping the page only about VPX in order to keep the page "clean". So like right now some new guy saw a neat table that happened to be a Future Pinball table and instead of just being like "oh hey dude, that's a Future Pinball table you can find it on their site" they just delete the posts.