/vr/ - Retro Games

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=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
500ml of /vr/
BETA: >>/vr/thread/7041037#p7043379

=== NEWS ===
[11-15]New progs_dump id1 styled map released:
https://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61976

[11-14] LA Tailor Girl updated:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&p=1173135#p1173135

[11-10] Serious Sam Collection coming to Switch November 17
https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/serious-sam-collection-switch/

[11-7] Judge Doomer updates his alpha:
>>7059803 (Cross-thread)

[11-7] 2048 units of /vr/ mappers start Temporal Tantrum project:
>>7059720 (Cross-thread)

[11-6] Guncaster 3.777 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=37066&p=1172380#p1172380

[11-4] Faithless (Heretic megawad) - beta released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/117375/

[11-4] Wadsmoosh 1.3 released (can grab intersmission screens from Unity ports)
https://jp.itch.io/wadsmoosh/devlog/192878/wadsmoosh-1

[11-2] 2048 unit of /vr/ is out on idgames (clean / with guns / only guns)
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/2048vr_v1.4
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/2048vr_v1.4g
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/combos/2048guns

[11-2]DBP 29 - Morbid Autumn Released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/117873/

[11-2]Anons creates unused texture resource for Quake games, also added fixed .fgds for Trenchbroom regarding Quake and Quoth.
https://www.quaddicted.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=4211

[10-31]500ML /vr/ Halloween Beta Released! >>7043379 (Dead) (Cross-thread)
https://archive.org/details/500ml-vr-halloween-beta

[10-31]GZdoom 4.5 has been released(x64 only)
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=70459

[10-30]Kojima's PT remade in gzdoom.
https://batandy.itch.io/gz-pt

[10-30] Mystery of Red Island demo
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/117504/

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>>7088019
New discord link for 500ml of /vr/
https://discord.gg/F968y8Wj4x

>>7088015
first?

>>7088019
You forgot the old archive link.

https://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

>>7088028
>>7088029
Damn you!!!

>>7088031
That one has out of date information, but is otherwise identical. Why use the old one?

>>7088016
thanks, I have corona now

HL1 birthday in two days.

>>7088038

>>7088037
>That one has out of date information
>Is actually updated a week ahead

The 'new' one you have linked in the news post is not tied to an account and the paste also has to be constantly replaced to update it because of that. The 'old' one is still getting updated periodically and I have no idea why it is getting replaced.

>>7088019
Unity based Doom Fangame where you play as Inugami Korone:
https://david-wu-softdev.itch.io/doog-hololive-fangame

WHO WANTA SOME WANG?

>>7088060
HOW'SA DAT FOR KUNG FU FIGHTING, YOU CHICKENSHIT?!

Why is this the only decent thread now?
i don't get it.

>>7088094
Because ultimately it encourages creativity in two ways: The /vr/ projects (2048, 500), and news posts letting everyone who comes here what's going on in the communities, further serving as beacons for total newbies to try their hand at mapping or modding. And there's nothing better in life than creating.

>>7088094
Because it's relatively new and nobody's had the chance to shit it up yet.

Are there any mods where you can unlock images as bonus content?
Like when a game has a gallery of concept art or even just gachas with pngs or characters in different clothes and shit
Or even "extra lore"
Basically, a in-game (or in-mod) gallery that you build up as you play the mod and maybe some stuff is categories, like images about a specific weapon or something
Or if a mod has playable characters, images about each character

>>7088123
i think treasure tech land is planing that in the full release.

>>7087997
It was not possible to NOT play with autoaim until a couple years ago when BloodGDX came out. Were the devs themselves and every other player befor then casuals?

>>7088123
>>7088130
Golden Souls 2 has a gallery that unlocks more with the more big coins you have

>>7088135
Yes.

Rise of the Triad is fucking based. It was built on a highly modified Wolf3d engine. The finished product is by no means an engineering marvel but had a certain charm to it. Here are some of the things that are in the ROTT engine:
Multi level orthogonally based levels.
Room over room (sort of).
Transparency.
Textured Floors and Ceilings.
Dynamic Lighting.
FLIC support (although we never had any in the game).
CINEMATIC engine (also never used. The ending sequence is scripted but doesn't utilize the cool shit developed before hand).
11 player network support.
Masked Walls (Textures with holes in them).
Moving Walls. Stairs (sort of).

>>7088094
It's difficult to start flame wars when you have the freedom to play the game however you want to.

>>7088050
>I want to make a Doom-related fangame
>I wonder what should I make it with
>I KNOW! UNITY!

>>7088050
Why couldn't this just be a mod?

>>7088226
I'm assuming the author only knows Unity.

>>7088050

Why don't you fags ever make anything for Build games? Why aren't you making mods and maps for Duke or Blood or Shadow Warrior? I see all these cool maps and sprites and shit and its all for Doom.

>>7088239
Probably because Build has archaic programs like Mapster32, and janktastic pieces of shit like EDuke32, which breaks mods with basically every update.
That said, there's a couple of guys here making a pack for Blood.

>>7088239
>>7088028

>>7088239
Anon...

>>7088252
What faggot?

>>7088239
Because the Build editor is the spawn of satan and shouldve been left in the 90s where it belongs.
But no, devs are content with bolting on more and more hotkeys to it.

>>7088156
>>7088226
>>7088231
Certainly better than nothing.
At least I'm enjoying it.

>>7088252
Yeah yeah I know about the Blood map pack that is being worked on but besides that. I never see you guys posting custom sprites for Build games and I never see anything for Shadow Warrior at all.

>>7088265
So do it yourself wtf are you bitching for

>>7088265
None of the Build games except Duke (and Redneck Rampage) are moddable.

Know what I'd love to see?
A ROTT mod with new enemies, and in the same style (Digitized human actors, etc)

>>7088271
Wat?

>>7088239
Anon, just do it yourself.
Playing Duke or Blood or Shadow Warrior feels completed without any additional mods, tbqh.
Playing Doom 1/2/64 is, as strange as it may be, not enough at all.

>>7088270
I don't know how, I insist you do it.

>>7088050
[no]

>>7088295
>I insist you do it.

>>7088304
I do.

>>7088149
Based Triadposter

>>7088276
You can make maps for them but you cant add or change enemies & weapons.

What's your head canon, anon? Did BJ Blazkowicz face the entity that would later be known as the Cyberdemon, the Harbinger of Doom? Did he cripple its limbs we see replaced with cybernetics in DOOM?

>>7088320
>cant add or change enemies & weapons.
Fuuuuu is that true for Duke too? Thats a real shame. So no custom sprites at all?

>>7088331
How do you explain multiple Cyberdemons?

Play Half Life in Software Mode.

>>7088348
>None of the Build games except Duke (and Redneck Rampage) are moddable.
Are you blind or what?

>>7088050
Jesus fucking christ I wish 2020 would have just nuked the entire human population before it could come up with this fucking retarded doog meme. Fucking kids.

>>7088376
Yeah! They should get off your lawn!

>day 10 of nofap
>recovered my will to map after months of procrastination
>even made some prop progs for quake
that wasn't even my intention

>>7088331
For myself:
>Wolfenstein is probably not related in continuity to Doom in any way
>original Doom continuity is 1 & 2, then Final Doom, No Rest For The Living, and Sigil, which can all fit somewhere around them as a possible fork, as can any pwad
>Doom 64 is an alternate reality which maybe leads into the new Doom games
>Doom 3 is alone
>new Doom games aren't cannon to the original games

Wolfenstein 3D btfo Ultima Underworld.

>>7088351
Good question.

Heres more info on Harbinger:
https://wolfenstein.fandom.com/wiki/Harbinger_of_Doom
>>7088401
Based. We should have more lore/continuity discussion in these threads. Doom lore fascinates me even with it being so sparse.

>>7088401
>>new Doom games aren't cannon to the original games
They are, it's the same Doom Guy. Cope

>>7088331
Sure why not.
>>7088351
It's either the one in the Tower of Babel or the one in Doom RPG.

>>7088418
I suppose you could argue that all cyberdemons looking like the ToB one is a developmental limitation (like, maybe all other cyberdemons aren't actually cybernetic, but they just look like that)

>>7088412
You can say that Doom 1/2 are canon to 2016/Eternal while the reverse is not true and still be correct.
I think there's an argument to made that no sequel is explicitly considerable as canon from the original's perspective UNLESS explicitly planned.

This is how I feel about Portal/Portal 2, actually. Portal is the prequel to Portal 2, but Portal 2 is not the sequel to Portal.

>>7088376

>>7088412
Nah, that's all gay, like capeshit.

>>7088390
You know there's nothing to gain by going past 7 days, right?

>>7088390
>some random pseudoscience encouraged me to start mapping again

>>7088094
Because the rest of the board changed and /v/ was attracted to the change, while we stayed the same. Old /vr/ no longer exists outside this one thread.
Even then you can sometimes feel the effects here, shitposting has gone up drastically.

>>7088390

>>7088469
Only frens and wholesome posts here

>>7088376
Sir? I think you'll make it. You will probably continue living life just fine. I would also recommend having some fun. Who wants to stay a grownup all the time? Life cannot be worth living if it's never rewarding. Sincerely, a stupid fucking idiot.

>>7088478
When I say shitposts I don't mean fun lightheated jokeposting, I specifically mean shit like when one poster whom I don't need to name derails the thread with 50+ posts about how much he hates Game [X] and then a second guy constantly feeds him replies so he keeps going. I enjoy this thread's OC and its ability to have fun and hope that never disappears.

>It's another "Is this canon?" thread

>>7088476

>>7088446
You're fucking gay

>>7088485
I honestly feel like I spend the majority of my time on this site bouncing between this and /brg/ on /k/ because they aren't completely radioactive and are often enjoyable.

>pic related

>>7088485
I honestly feel like I spend the majority of my time on this site bouncing between this and /brg/ on /k/ because they aren't completely radioactive and are often enjoyable.

>pic related

>>7088518
>deleted

>>7088517
>buh muh connected idverse!

>>7088523
So how's Thermold magazines working out for you? I've not heard very inspiring things about them.

>>7088539
Most of the ones I have are fine. Worst that's happened was a sticky follower. Steels works well too, but mine doesn't like 30 rounders. :<

>>7088532
but fucking nothing
it's already been declared canon dozens of times

>>7088546
I see. Maybe try disassembling that one and see if there's any burrs or anything which the follower may be sticking on. I wish I lived in a country where I could have a battle raifu, maybe I could join the home guard, but it's not like they'll let me pick an M1 or BM59. I'll have to settle for putting them in Doom.

>>7088551
By a bunch of nerds and corporate suits who were in diapers when the original games were made. Disney also says the new Star Wars movies are canon, which they can insist on as much as they want.

>>7088562
I have to play devil's advocate and say that the IP holder objectively does get to declare what is and isn't canon, but you have the right mindset of "who fucking cares." There's nothing wrong with ignoring "canon" shit, especially "canon" shit made by someone who didn't create the IP in the first place.

Nothing wrong with whatever headcanon you people have. I just like to think Wolfenstein is in the same Universe as Rise of the Triad.

"all doom wads are cannon" is the dumbest shit ever

>>7088591
https://twitter.com/romero/status/1087141337177223168
It might as well be.

>>7088615
You spelling it cannon instead of canon is the dumbest shit ever.

>>7088615
HDoom is canon you can't change my mind.

>>7088615
It's a throwaway line that people take way too fucking seriously, both the hardcore defenders and people who rage over it. I don't think id put more than a second's thought into it, they just wante to say "between DOOM64 and DOOM4 Doomguy went through a ton of levels killing demons, including the ones (You) made!" and didn't consider the wide variety of mods. You're not meant to think about it and it's probably best forgotten considering how some people reacted to it.

>>7088615
Doom's longevity is mostly thanks to the efforts of the Doom community, and I find it incredible that id would acknowledge everyone, past, present & future by blanketing everything into the plot.

Imagine getting butthurt over this.

>>7088642
but but but but but Story is the most important part of Doom and treating it so loosely is directly hurting my soul juices.

>>7088649
Look, I usually don't give a shit, but I'm sick and goddamn tired of the thread getting clogged up with people who are constantly either ignoring the idverse canon or flat out denying it, even though it's already been established by word of god.

>>7088449
>nothing to gain past 7 days
That would imply that breaking the streak would make him lose "something", so abstaining in order to keep being motivated makes sense.

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?random
I'm bored, so let's do this again for the hell of it.

>click link to get a random upload from idgames
>play it (as far as you want anyway)
>take at least one screenshot
>post a link to it here in reply afterwards
>tell us what you thought about it
>if you get a DM map, texture pack, or utility, etc, reroll

What are your favorite demos?
Mine:
>Scythe 2 episode 5 UV-Max (about 67 min)
I love these maps, but they are too long if only because the same MIDI gets old after too long.
>Scythe 1 episode 1 UV-Fast by 4shockblast (about 12 min)
I love playing this run myself and 4shockblast is one of the best players in the world
>Scythe 1 episode 2 UV-Max by Cybertranny (about 32 min)
I really like these maps and he is the only one who submitted demos besides an extremely old and unoptimized ~40 min demo that even I beat.

>>7088723
Weasel Presents: NAZIS!
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/combos/ww-nazis

Seems to be a simple enemy and weapon replacement with WW2 theme. My aim seems to be climbing and never go down, I'm not quite sure why. Not particularly interesting.

>>7088723
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/utils/misc/3dbench
Do I have to

>>7088649
>Story is the most important part of Doom
Wait, did you actually like this doomslayer/templar stuff?

>>7088723
Darkwave5
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/d-f/darkwave5

A fairly straightforward level. It front-loads a lot of monsters into the first encounter, and it also leans way way too much on pain elementals. It looks good and is fun though.

I've been playing around with Treasure Tech for the past two days and it's been a great time, I don't know how you would define the amalgamation of ideas and styles that results in it's outlandish theme but I'm on board with it.

>>7088731
Mine is Map27 of Epic 2 by Tatsurdcacocaco

>>7088756
I'd define it with Metal Slug + Wario Land

>>7088762
Wow, I should really play some of those games again, thanks Anon.

What are the worst Duke 3D levels?

My pick is Babe Land. That's a godawful piece of shit.

>>7088231
AYO THEY PUT NIGWARD IN DOOM?

>>7088015
I really hate this OP pic.

>>7088723
Well, I got this old fucking gem.
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/p-r/rod2

Released in 2011, using GzDoom, I think it must have every single fucking monster which existed at Realm667 at the time.

>>7088668
Yeah, he'd lose the reduced risk of prostate cancer.

>>7088796
I could go on at length on the delightful qualities of this, but I think its reputation precedes it. Here at this arena fight, the framerate nosedives like crazy, and I don't really know why, there's not THAT many monsters, and there's certainly not that many linedefs or dynamic lights at play, I can only assume that the ACS that's running is completely retarded somehow and doing a bunch of unnecessary shit that it shouldn't.

>>7088807
It's kind of adorable how awful this is.

>>7088807
It's probably the projectile trails

Around here I gave up completely, it started spawning in an infinite number of punch marines, just fucking spewing out of midair teleporters.

>>7088815
It's not THAT many of them, I've seen much more in other places.

>>7088765
Duke it out in DC Smithsonian level.
You're just hunting for keys in a huge and kinda boring level.
The idea is great and I really want to like this level, but it leaves a terrible impression after all.
Or maybe I am retarded - Civvie bragged about completing this level sub 30 min for first time playing

>>7088723
An old Kurt Kessler map, kboom10:
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/j-l/kboom_10

It's alright, nothing special, short and competent. You can see this is is a guy who's riding the high of the newfound novelty of Boom engine features (new in 1998, that is), and the text supports that. This midtexture crusher is cute.

>>7088723
Ventured back to 95 with second map of Cabal series by Cranium — a known person in Doom community who also took a part in the gaming industry.
Cramped space full of pinkies and lack of weapons make a pretty harsh start. SSG is hidden far in the level and practically the only weapons of choice are chaingun with rocket launcher. There is a room with lone baron, whom you are apparently supposed to kill with help of barrels.
Made it on 3rd try. Second secret is not shown on demo, but is hidden behind a shootable switch inside the drain of toxic sludge, which I originally thought was a dead end
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/a-c/cabal2

The new eric andre show season is fun

>>7088962
I will omit the link to demo. Cudos to the asinine spam check system

>>7088962
Oh yeah, that's Sverre Kvernmo's really early work. Every couple of years he shows up again with a map. He improved a lot with time, I didn't play all of Cabal, but some of them made it into the Master Levels, and they're some of the weakest there (such as Mephisto's Maosoleum), so it kind of makes me dread how rough the others were for not qualifying.

>>7088979
Now that you mention the Master Levels, i've played nothing apart from the famed TEETH.WAD, which i remember liking for some strange reason. Question of mood for tight rooms and corridors i suppose

>>7088962
Demo for cabal2 https://a.pomf.cat/mipayr.lmp

>>7088997
That's honestly one of the best levels of the Master Levels. Overall, I think it's a pretty weak set of maps though, and I'm really glad we eventually got Final Doom as a much better expanion set.

>>7088968
He looks weird with a shaved head.

>>7088962
>>7088997
Embarrassing, proper link to demo https://a.pomf.cat/dmewlo.lmp

>>7088449
I'm not going to lie, I burnt down on porn, I don't feel like

Keep vtuber cancer far the fuck away from here. This is the last shelter on the internet away from all the cancer. Please knock it off.

>>7089074
I don't care one way or another.

>>7089074
>last shelter on the internet away from all the cancer
Yet here you are.

>>7088951
Smithsonian is a great level. For me the worst is tier drops.

>>7088149
You seem to assume people don't discuss ROTT much because they haven't heard of it. Not so - we don't discuss it because it hasn't held up.

>>7089074

>>7088149
THEY'LL BURY YOU IN A LUNCH BOX

>>7089074
> This is the last shelter on the internet away from all the cancer.
I take it you're a newfag unaware of 4chan's wapanese history

THERE'S A MAN WHOSE MIDDLE NAME IS DANGER

>>7089168
There's a man whose first name is American.

>>7089074
>4chan
>shelter from all the cancer

>>7089074
Embrace the Doom Dog God

>>7089168
Austin Powers?

>>7089174
American Danger Powers?

>>7089168
HE'S TRAVELLING THROUGH TIME KILLING EVERY ALIEN HE FINDS

>>7088951
>>7089107
I never hear anyone say "Smithsonian Terror is fine, I guess." they either think it's absolute shit, or that it's fantastic.

>>7088015
I have never watched a "v-tuber" before, but I actually do think that the English dubs of segments of her (>her?) streams are pretty funny. At least the few that I've seen.
>>7088050
>Making your small-scale game with proprietary software in Anno Domini 2020.

>Zilla sends his regards, Lo Wang

>>7089229
Is this about Zooky?

>>7088149

RotT was the first FPS I ever played because it had an option to turn off blood. It will always hold a special place in my heart. I think it's great, but the engine restrictions on level design hold it back.

That total conversion for zdoom is fucking radical though.

>>7088962
Man that is a nice looking HUD

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/p-r/pc_wolf
>"PC_WOLF, A Wolfenstein classic"
So this is a Wolfenstein styled level set for Doom 2, by Paul Corfett- Corfie- [checks page] Paul Corfiatis, yeah, you guys have probably heard of him, or something. He seems to be talked about in the community at times, so I assume that his levels may be good or something, but this is from 1997, which is a long time ago.

>>7089327
This ain't worth playing. It's kind of like Wolfenstein 3D level design if you made it somehow more plain and less straight forward, keys are hidden in secrets, which you're expected to find (granted, you're given Computer Maps, but damn). Some of the music would be pretty nice and spooky in theory, but they tracks are straight up 5 second loops, so they grate instead. You could probably use one of them as one of the main riffs in a much longer track, and that could be pretty cool.

This red sci-fi city skyline is neat, I imagine it may have been nabbed from some old adventure game or something.

>>7089327
Pcorf made a LOT of maps throughout Doom's history, and still occasionally does even today. While he certainly has improved since his 90's offerings, I wouldn't say he was ever a favourite of mine. But 2002 A Doom Odyssey and Whispers of Satan are pretty decent, if flawed, megawads

>>7089327
>>7088723
wups
Here's the sky I guess.

>>7088239
Why don't you?
Also, why has no one uses build 2 yet? Actually seems kinda fun. Networked map editing and such... Seems like with a bit of know how you could make something pretty cool with it.

>Guncaster
>fire Stratocasted Old Dreadful
>animation plays where Cygnis punches the weapon to restart it
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nQ2oiVqKHw
I love little things like these

>>7088723
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/deathmatch/d-f/doomnuke
It's Hollywood Holocaust, remade for Vanilla Doom. It is what it is.

>>7089504
Mouse look never fails to make me feel nauseated

Retard here. I just downloaded Crispy Doom and I can't get the command line to open up. Whenever I hit the tilde key it brings up the same options menu as escape. This is the only game that supports commmand line that I have this problem with so I am left scratching my head. I have a feeling the solution is going to be something absurdly obvious and simple.

>>7088723
The SpawnSQwad 2000
Date: 10/10/00
AUTHOR[s]: many - see list below
MODIFIED AND COMPILED BY: Squonkamatic for the People!!
DESCRIPTION: 32 smallish levels of DOOM2 mayhem, each with one of those
monster spitting heads of John Romero to make sure you don't get lonely. Ever.

Its weird. Too many power ups for not enough enemies, SS Soldiers outside of Wolfenstein levels (which isn't bad in of itself but when there are next to no Doom monsters), and this bizarre 3rd level. Not continuing with.

>when you are 80 in the nursing home and keep making doom maps
I don't know what to feel

>>7089586
um, thanks for all the good times?

>>7089586
Gotta keep your mind occupied on something when you get older.

>>7089586

>>7088476
>Saitama is a nofap practitioner.
[citation needed]
>implying that semen is absorbed by the body like Iron and Calcium are
>Actually receiving, then just believing and accepting whatever the average Redditor says to be factual without any sense of doubt or inquiry
>Look ALL THESE PEOPLE believed in nofap because I heard it from the grapevine, so it must be true!

>>7088275
That would be fucking. There are plenty of really good sprite artists out there who mod, people who are damn near as good as the original artists who made these sprites... But digitization seems to be a dead artwork. Its a real shame. Would be awesome if someone actually went to the trouble to costume/digitize themselves or others for a mod.

>>7089725
*fucking awesome

>>7088156
Is that supposed to be Stalin? That old headshot of him is a model, he wasn't that handsome. He was a crater faced manlet.

>>7089739
Rent free.

>>7089586
would not be a bad hobby to have at that age, help keep the mind active

>>7089741
Get fucked Bolshevik nonce

>>7089751
Surely there werr some pretty old boomers into Doom mapping at the time it was new and popular ala Sandy Peterson right? I bet some of them are in their 80s by now, wonder if they still do it.

>>7089762
Halderman was pretty old when he first got interested in Doom mapping.

The seethe was legendary
>>/vr/thread/S7046219

>>7089759
Dilate, SJW.

>>7089769
As the other anon said it probably would be a really good hobby for an elderly person like that to keep the mind sharp and engaged. It would be a helluva lot better for that that something like Solitaire or Checkers.

>>7089776
>le SJW
Don't know if you're aware of this, but muh SJWs are overwhelmingly leftist/Marxists themselves. What a strange cope you have to deal with that fact.

>>7089776
>>7089759
SJWs are a different kind of Marxist from the Bolsheviks of the 1900s-1920s. Still Kosher trash at the core. Ditto for Mensheviks, and both the ""religions"" of Christianity and Islam.

>he's still seething
>>7087893
lol

>>7089787
>Marxists and leftists are interchangeable
In your mind, yes. But That's not quite true. Left wing doesn't mean that you support Marx's ideals.
>t.former liberal.

>>7089787
"Cultural Marxism" was invented by CIA to counteract Soviet influence. Just like mujaheedin, when Soviet Union was no more, it then backfired on America itself. Oh the sweet irony.

>>7089791
>>7089802
>>7089803
So many Judeo-Bolshevik propagandists here.

Ok ok leave it at that we are going to get banned and I'll have to get up and unplug my router and plug it back in.

>>7089819
This means I'm at inherent advantage, all I need to do is to restart internet connection.

>>7089803
>CIA
Also a predominantly Hebe-run and controlled institution that WAS NEVER NEEDED
>>7089809
I am not a Bolshevik in any sense
>>7089802
>implying liberal is the same thing as Marxist in and of itself
Also, I am not someone who identifies as a liberal nor Democrat anymore. Haven't since 7-8 years ago.

You know what kicks ass? Rise of the Triad.

>>7089831
Nah, it sucks, not as much as CIA, but still sucks.

>>7089831
ʸᵒᵘ ᵏnᵒʷ ʷʰᵃᵗ ᵉˡˢᵉ ᵏᶦᶜᵏˢ ᵃˢˢ
ᵖᶦᶜᵗᵘʳᵉˢ ᵃ ʰᵘᵐᵃn ᵇᵉᶦnᵍ ᶜᵃn ˢᵉᵉ ʷᶦᵗʰᵒᵘᵗ ᵃ ᵐᶦᶜʳᵒˢᶜᵒᵖᵉ

>>7089837
NO IT FUCKING DOESNT

HAVE YOU EVER EVEN PLAYED COMM-BAT MODE?

>>7089840
Shut up I saved a thumbnail on accident, just fucking play Rise of the Triad.

>>7089849
ᵒᵏᵃʸ

Why are shitposters so retarded here?
Do they enjoy being lolcows?

>>7089868
Yes, they're the comic relief and an important part of the natural ecosystem of Retro FPS Generals

>>7089868
I too have no idea why would you shill RoTT

>>7087719
Cant you just make a .pk3 and add it to whatever other shit your using?

Like, I have a super shotgun pk3 I drag over for Doom 1 wads

>>7089874
Hey, fuck you

If Serious Sam collection is 30fps on switch im going to upload a full image of my unshaved erect cock and balls in protest and anger.

If I have to suffer then so too do you

Do quake mappers copy and paste assets? That was pretty cool to find out you can literally copy brushes from one map and paste into another.

>>7089074
Im Going to download the face tracking software and use classic FPS as my avatar and play old FPS Vidya just to spite you

Any of you guys played the 360 port of Quake 2? Apparently it's fairly obscure/rare, it was included as a bonus disc in the first printing run for Quake 4 on 360. It's also the first HD remaster for 360. It's really good actually, id did it themselves.

>>7089849
>just fucking play Rise of the Triad.
Something I think we can all agree on.

So I saw ShillmanLives made a video gushing over how good Prodeus is. Is it really good or is he did he get paid to say that?

>>7089971
Who cares?

>>7089971
Shillman also thought that Citadel and Blade of Agony are good. I think he just genuinely suffers from pica.

>>7089971
Shillman loving isnt a good sign that's for sure. Its a Unity game, that tries to look retro, while having a typical cod roster of guns. Doesn't look good.

>>7088723
I rolled Space Communications (https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/s-u/scom)), a short spaceport/tech themed map made in 2012. The map was very easy, only having Imps, Zombies and one Pinky to deal with. I'm glad that the author took the time to replace the music and sky texture, which suites map's space theme. I couldn't get 100% kills because all of the enemies didn't teleport in, which the author acknowledges asa bug in the text file. Overall, pretty nice, maybe could've benefitted from some more color variation. I think it would make for a nice MAP01 for a larger set of maps.

>>7090014
>The map was very easy, only having Imps, Zombies and one Pinky to deal with.
Sounds like HD time for me!

>>7089905
Pretty sure Trenchbroom even has a sort of prefab system to do just that.

>>7088019
>can grab intersmission screens from Unity ports
Where download doom unity wads?

>>7090023
Have fun with the yellow key room.

>>7089989
Well I do, since it's touting itself as a throwback Quake style FPS which is something I would be interested in if its not shit.

>>7088412
>RIP AND TEAR, THEY'RE EVERYWHERE
He's what people thought Doomguy is, not the original silent, nameless marine that wasn't even refered to as "Doomguy"

>>7088765
All the secret levels except for Freeway are abysmal.
Besides them, I would agree with Babe Land. Not only is the progression unnecessarily cryptic, but the theme is really half-assed. It doesnt look or feel very much like an amusement park.

>>7090070
I'm going to pretend i care about story. Doomguy could be compared to ash from evil dead trilogy. At first movie ash is normal silent guy too, while in next two he has gone fully insane, but capable fighter. Same could have happened to doomguy too. That's what fighting demons apparently does.

>>7090095
I liked the lines they had him speak in Eternal. He had already been to fucking Hell like 3 times with him staying there for an uncertain amount of time at the end of 64... He would be completely fucking deranged at this point and the lines convey that well. After this hysterical period its very believable he would deal with that horrific experience by going back to being silent as we see him in the current time in DOOM 4/Eternal

>>7088412
My biggest gripe with how they designed Nuumguy is that he feels like some kind of Ironman/Batman character that uses a bunch of fancy gadgets to finish the job rather than purely his own grit.
Just look at the classic cover of the original - he's getting surrounded and fucked up by a horde of demons and still coming out on top with just a bashed up security outfit and a pistol. Meanwhile, in the newer ones a lot of his "powers" that the player uses seem to be enabled by his super-suit (equipment, double-jumping and dashing, etc.)

>>7090113
I don't mind him being super powered by the Divinity Machine or whatever because being able to tear demons apart is pretty awesome. I don't even mind the new tech/guns. But I can't fucking stand that Praetor armor. He looks like fucking Samus from Metroid. I'll only play Eternal with the classic Doomguy skin, I wish there was one for Doom 4.

>>7090113
Besides the fact that they made him a bit too similar to Master Chief in some ways, they try to hard to make him a perfect flawless demigod when his appeal was that he was the unlucky UAC marine that somehow survived and had to put up with all the mess
He was "Doomed" and in a way not even the Doom 3 marine carried over
Doomguy was cool because of the chance he could have been another dead or zombified marine
The Slayer feels like misguided fanservice that even the idiots that took Death Battle or that one 4chan meme post seriously would be confused and think half of the new abilities aren't even necessary
Find it weird seeing people compare the new Doomguy to Guts from Berserk when these two might as well be extreme opposites
Sometimes, i feel like the comic has a more fitting characterization and that it doesn't even feel like the true main source of inspiration
The games not only misrepresented the original games but even the outside material, which means saying "it's what people think Doo is/should be" isn't even accurate because the games also try to rebrand an already innacurate picture of Doom formed by the public, through second hand misinformation and rumors

>>7088015
>>7088050
Fuck off with that stupid dog; That bitch already overstood her welcome for far too long.

>>7090125
>Doomguy was cool because of the chance he could have been another dead or zombified marine
Nah. Any chance of that being the case evaporated at the end of E1 where he went to hell itself to bring the fight to the demons. OG Doomguy was a juggernaut for the entirety of Doom 1 and 2 after that. It's like the other anon said, he's basically just Ash but a space marine.

>>7090125
Also, the new games aren't even bad but it feels like they won't admit they're a reboot
At least with 3, it was decided that it was just some experiment for Carmack's new engine at the time
So, with the so called "Doom universe" i fear they try to make too much out of it, to the point Doom may not even try to innovate itself again
It also doesn't help that new Doom fans are more "consumerist" compare to old ones and don't even think much of modding
The MG Wolfenstein games already feel saturated before we even hit a supposed "third" one
I'd argue Doom's longevity might as well be tied for its lack of a universe, due to the amount of discussion and interpretations people had about its true "identity" while modders already built their ideal universes by looking at the silly art style and analyzing obscure details and shit
Doom was more of a "brush and canvas" and not really a painting
Old fans treated Doom like they took over the series and owned it
Anything you wanted, either someone else did it or you'd do it
Some people hope for an official "idverse" game when Samsara isn't even the only mod tackling the concept at a deeper scale that would be impossible in an official game

>>7090112
I didnt mind the lines or the idea of speaking itself, but the voice actor just didnt sell it right imo.

>>7088050
That's terrible!

>>7090112
My only beef would be "hell" just being another dimension and not the biblical, ethereal, beyond space and time realm. It makes sense because of Doom 3 but I didn't like it then either.

>>7090113
>>7090119

Dude Eternal is technically Doom 6, we are far beyond him just being a lone soldier struggling. I hate capeshit but I like the super suit and it ties with the new "soul energy" shit really well. Its no different than all the "demon tech" stuff in D64 and countless mods except its a suit and not yet another gun.

Not to mention countless soul, mega, and invulnerability spheres he's digested.

>>7090112
My only beef would be "hell" just being another dimension and not the biblical, ethereal, beyond space and time realm. It makes sense because of Doom 3 but I didn't like it then either.

>>7090113
>>7090119

Dude, Eternal is technically Doom 6, we are far beyond him just being a lone soldier struggling. I hate capeshit but I like the super suit and it ties with the new "soul energy" shit really well. Its no different than all the "demon tech" stuff in D64 and countless mods except its a suit and not yet another gun.

Not to mention countless soul, mega, and invulnerability spheres he's digested.

>>7090184
I thought it was ok. Could've been better but passable.

>>7090231
>My only beef would be "hell" just being another dimension and not the biblical, ethereal, beyond space and time realm
Yeah, that is disappointing. I want the old upside crosses and pentagrams Hell

>>7090125
Eternal is based and he is the original Doomguy, canon is Doom -> Doom II -> Doom 64 -> Doom 4 -> Doom Eternal.

Cope, seethe, dilate etc.

>>7090158
Quake Champions is basically an idverse game, BJ from Wolfenstein and Doomguy are in it.

>>7090129

Trying Ancient Aliens for the first time.
I love how the maps look and the soundtrack, but damn this is probably above my skill level.
Should I be pistol starting these? I'm already attempting no saves/as few as possible.

>>7090315
Doom lore is based.

>>7090119
This. I just skip the shit story but god damn I hate that weird preator armour. At least they made classic Doomguy an in game unlockable and didn't make it a microtransaction.

>>7090231
>>7090287
In terms of "lore", art direction, even gameplay etc, Hell in the new games has so many differences from the originals, it's why "it could be a different plane like with 64" isn't even enough to justify it, so it could have been an actual pure reboot universe
How do you go from " a twisted colorfull Hell where they made their own cyberdemons and zombies still use guns" to "some caves and dark castles, with species created by other factions"?
Same with Urdak, since they feel like they were inspired by the Doom novels but they're aliens pretending to be Angels instead
I know Doom isn't Shin Megami Tensei but it feels with the overall aesthetic and story, they don't really deliver something "supernatural" or celestial about these beings
Having Vega as "the father" or the UAC having close ties with both Urdak and Hell doesn't help either

>>7090334
Yeah and its obtainable very early on in the game which is nice. Seems like they knew people would want to use classic Doomguy with the rest of the game being such a throwback to the old Dooms.

>>7089971
It looks okay. On one hand it's made by the Eveternity guy so the levels might be good, on the other it looks like it graduated from the Brutal Doom school of tons of gore taking importance over anything else.

>>7090340
Yeah it kind of sucks that everything was basically revealed to just be aliens and shit basically. They took the "Satanic Hell" out of it completely

>>7090340
Agree.

>>7090354
Don't know why they took that approach, it's a big point of criticism with the movie, the old one, and another with the old novels (though they actually do it better).

>>7090361
Might be because OG Hell is abstract and "hacky" in some ways, even though they could have tried to make it weirder or even get creative
One reason why i think it's the best Hell in the series is because the variety of assets and shit sort of reflects on the enemy variety
Like, there's "themes" going around and it also plays a role in custom content too

>>7090361
>Don't know why they took that approach
Honestly I think its to not offend anyone. Kind of ironic considering Romero and Carmack loved offending religions nuts and prudes.

SUCK A DICK

Just finished Hell Revealed, are there any wads with a focus on movement or puzzles(if they even exist)?

>>7090330
Its just for jokes m8 not too serious

if id wanted to take doom lore seriously, they'd hire marphyblack and decino

>>7090430
What anything about Decino makes you think he can write a story?

>>7090439
Does decino even make lore videos? And who is marphyblack?

>>7090326
The difficulty curve of aa is all over the place, I think because it was made by so many different people. It sort of resets at the end of each episode but then it throws in some weirdly long or hard ones midway. All the maps are suitable for pistol starts, but you might just be better judging on an individual basis if you're having trouble.

>>7088226

>>7088239
You'll have to go to duke4 forums to get mods, TCs and maps for them tho

>>7090439
decino just happens to know a lot about doom and obscure trivia
marphyblack is noticeable for also having deep knowledge and make interesting videos about obscure fps stuff and even correct id's mistakes

>>7088759
>epic 2
Reminder to play Hell Ground. It's by the same author. IMO it's one of those map sets with 10/10 level decoration. It also has one of the coolest custom monsters, a grey imp with 2x movespeed and 2x health and he shoots baron fireballs. It's only 7 maps, and one of them is a puzzle map with 0 monsters that you can skip because of the death exit. I tried out Epic 1 & 2 but I didn't like the custom sprites of Epic 1 and I got lost in the start of Epic 2 so I never went back

>>7088810
I noticed a general trend - GZDoom maps with custom monsters tend to suck. I think the dehacked trickery needed to make custom monsters in classic Doom filters out all the bad mappers

>>7090081
>>7088765
Ye Babeland sucks. It literally ruined my playthrough; the thing that I remember the most vividly from my Duke playthrough is getting lost in Babeland. I also don't like the death row level E1M3. I really like E2M4, but it's one of the worst levels simply because you can skip straight to the end with the jetpack if doing continuous playthroughs. It's one of my favorite maps to 100% otherwise.

>>7090420
>wads with a focus on movement or puzzles(if they even exist)?
>puzzles
You'll love this one, look up Wormwood EU by Ribbiks. It features bouncy walls; I don't want to spoil it so just try the first map to find out. I'm not nearly good enough to beat any of the maps, though.
>movement
I know he's made some platforming-only levels but I can't remember which wad it was. I saw a video of one and it looked great even though I'd never play it

Why is Doom RPG so fucking based bros? Using J2ME Loader on my Android phone and it kicks ass.

>>7090303
does this make doom secretly a story about doomguy overcoming his PTSD in 64???? He literally fights the same bosses as 1 and 2 in the new games

>>7090648
Interesting way to look at it. I could see it being a metaphor for that.

>>7090641
You're right, it is based. My obligatory Doom RPG post for those who still haven't played it:
Carmack wrote the engine (over a weekend, if I recall correctly. He said he decided to finally check out gaming on cell phones and found them incredibly lame so decided to make something himself) and it was clearly inspired by the type of predominantly Western classic first person dungeon crawler PC RPGs that Carmack had played back in the day. He said he decided to go with the style he did as a way to design within the limitations of the platform instead of making a shitty half assed platformer that plays like shit or whatever.

There were 5 using the engine. Doom RPG, Doom II RPG, Wolfenstein RPG and Orcs & Elves 1 and 2, an original traditional fantasy IP made for the engine.

You can find all the iD RPG games and an emulator to play them here. I run them on my Android phone with J2ME Loader and it works great. There's an onscreen keypad for the buttons. If you want to play on PC just use the Windows version of J2ME Loader.

All the iD RPG games are in this archive:
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4

Also, Doom II RPG had an exclusive black and white comic book tie-in. You can read it here:
https://imgur.com/a/slxE9or

>>7090112
It does make sense he would babble hysterically when encountering the first intelligent beings who spoke to him instead of screaming demons since the whole thing had began.

>>7090507
Just adapt it, 3D models can be used as pre-renders to create sprites.

>>7090673
*since deciding to stay in Hell at the end of Doom 64.

Forgot the 64 manual talks about him seeing shrinks and trying to return to normal life after Doom 1 and 2 before being rectivated and sent back for 64.

Any mods that expand the sounds and shit monsters can make and stuff?

>>7090682
Perkristian's Hi-res SFX:
http://www.perkristian.net/game_doom-sfx.shtml

Sound Caulking:
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/71133-sound-caulking-now-on-idgames/

I see pwople playing Doom mods on YouTube and they'll have like variant monsters, like a female zombie private or ones with a helmet on or pinkies with cybernetic legs. What mod is that? I think having variant appearances for the vanilla Doom enemies is cool as fuck.

>>7090541
>GZDoom maps with custom monsters tend to suck.
I think it's primarily due to low skill mappers thinking they're a shortcut to making their maps better, and they see something that looks cool on R667, often adding it without really thinking about what role and utility it has (which is often how you get a huge mishmash of the R667 repository just thrown in).
It's seldom a thought of "I really want a monster of this specific role for this or that encounter, but it's not in the base game."
That mapset there wouldn't have really been improved by dialing it back to the stock monsters though, nor if the author had to work out tricks with voodoo scripts and stuff to get some of his effects, because his primary problem is that he doesn't know anything about level design.

The better GzDoom mapsets with custom monsters tend to have their own, or alters existing ones for its purpose.

>>7090723
I think Smooth Doom has some options for cosmetic monster variants.

>>7090726
This seems like a common one because I see multiple different people/wads using them. Is it just a monster pack you can use with vanilla or any wad? That's what I want.

>>7090726
>>7090736
The monsters I am referring to can be seen in this video:
https://youtu.be/ekWtAe0bNSU

Just want the new sprites, not the gameplay changes to this particular mod.

>>7088756
Man I've heard endless good things about that mod, I need to finally download TT and give it a try

>>7090663
>that comic
Thank you! I've been looking for it since forever!

>>7090761
No problemo DOOMbro

>>7090694
Thanks. I assume they're not compatible? If so, I'll try Caulking and see how that goes.

>>7090756
Is there a version of Treasure Tech that doesn't include the weird new weapons? I love the idea of Treasure Tech but I'm not sold on the weapon changes, I'd much rather play it with vanilla guns.

>>7090774
They work great together. One just makes sounds more HQ and another adds variety

>>7090770
Damn Carmack was JACKED

>>7088723
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/j-l/jal_cas1
Bland and short level even for 1994 standards

>>7090789
I know, right? Romero looks like a sòyboy cuck in comparison, hes not even lifting that thing.

>>7090789
Hes tiny, Tim Sweeney isn't even that tall.

>>7090789
He used to train Jiu-jitsu, hearing him talk about it on Joe Rogan was a real trip

>>7090810
He choked out Jace Hall, one of the developers of Blood and current owner of Twin Galaxies

Again, Google will delete Google docs from accounts that weren't used for at least 2 years
If any doc has Doom related shit, back that up

>>7090820
Shit, I thought I recognized Jace Hall from somewhere when I was watching a video about him sueing the old TG owner and that Pac-Man score prick. I l had no idea he was a Blood dev, maybe we'll get super, super lucky and he'll buy the IP from Shitari (I know it won't happen).

A man can dream...

>>7090781
Then it's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks, anon.

>>7090829
Yep, it would be awesome. He was actually the founder of the studio that did Blood.
>Jason Hall (nickname "Jace") was the founder and Chief Executive Officer of Monolith Productions. Blood and Blood II: The Chosen were some of his first projects, and he is responsible for creating real-time 3-D authoring technology. He is also the voice of Tchernobog/BloodBath Announcer (credited as The VoiceTM), which was given its unique tone by resampling Hall's normal voice at a lower rate. Alongside Nathan Hendrickson, he is also credited with coming up with the basic premise for the Condemned series, and recently has been said to be pitching ideas for a third game in the series to developers and fans. The initial concept, called "Species X" or "Iniquity", was also spun into the 2011 film The Unforgettable.

>>7090838
Here's hoping that he ends up buying the rights, I won't hold my breath though. No matter how much he probably wants to own the IP, money is always a factor and being a CEO means he has to prioritize the company that he heads/invests in

>>7090820
There is video of this lmao
https://youtu.be/X68Mm_kYRjc

>>7090789
He's still in good shape. This man ate a pizza every day for 20 years and didn't get fat.

>>7090318
SO CUTE AND SOFT

:3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaRbRsP7qT4

John Carmack is the only tech genius I can think of that I genuinely respect, he seems like a pretty down to Earth guy that would be more than happy to shoot the shit with you about cool tech and cars if you ever found him at a bar or a fancy party

>>7090852
If Blood gets saved as a result of Silly Bitchell getting his comeuppance for decades of being a thunder twat, then I'll never stop cumming.

>>7090897
Hopefully one day we'll all cum together, Anon
>nohomo.mkv

>>7088015
>Open Unreal Tournament never
why live

>>7090932
Just download the newer fan patch and play UT99 multi again, it's still fun

>>7090750
Seconding this, those monsters are rad looking. Doesnt Brutal Doom also do variant monster sprites?

>>7090958
I think there might be a handful for the normal zombies and shotgunners but that's it for alternate artwork in that mod.

What's the best Wolfenstein 3D clone lads? My vote goes to Blake motherfucking Stone. Also RoTT if it can still even be considered a clone

How about the best Doom clone? I really like Hacx. Heretic is good too of course.

>>7090964
I see Pinkies with robot legs too

>>7090723
>>7090750

That's actually a good question, is there a mod that just changes monster sprites and nothing else.
There is this page which has links to a bunch of replacers/randomizers. It looks like most if not all change behaviors or stats.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=50504

Unfortunately you might be better off just making the mod yourself. Cyber Pinky is from realm667 and IDK about female marines. I'll keep digging i'd be interested in something like that myself.

Shit I can't even find a good D64 monster replacer lol

>>7090736
Just checked, it didn't see any mob sprite replacements, though I do really like this mod, I might like it more than beautiful Doom

>>7089893
I have no idea how that shit works man. I just know what I do works.

>>7090951
I was thinking of running it on linux, but I think it works fine on WINE though, thanks for letting me know.

>>7090974
It's not a clone per se and it has extra gore but the Wolfenstein X mod for Doom is worth a try if you're craving some Wolf 3D-styled action in more detailed maps than the actual game. It does have extra gore though, I know that's a huge turn-off for some but I thought it was fine.

>>7090980
These are the kind of variants I want. I guess I have to use Project Brutality to get them?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b3oHbGLxFqE

I'm bored and never checked it out, is Redneck Rampage actually worth the time, unmodded or otherwise?

>>7091009
Whoa they finally added credits? Fuck me.

>>7091012
I fucking hate the theme and premise, its retarded and not at all appealing but the gameplay is solid.

>>7091016
I think in the details of the video it says that guy made it himself? Idk I just want those monsters

>>7091009
Those sprites do look great and fit the artstyle of vanilla very well.

>>7091017
How does the level design compare to Duke and Shadow Warrior? I'm not expecting Build explosions out the ass, just solid, enjoyable levels.

>>7091021
Yeah I realized that it's very outdated. Monsters have been added since.

Project Brutality has an extremely extensive options menu, so what you could do is disable all the new weapons, and disable advanced monster attacks and behaviors (like imps climbing on walls) to get as close to vanilla Doom as possible with these new variants.
>>7091028
PB is a great time. Check it out.

>>7091041
Ah cool, I'll do that then. I love the idea of the vanilla monsters having slightly different appearances for the same type since it's highly unlikely they would all look exactly the same. But keeping it in an art style that fits is the tricky part. These PB ones do it though.

>>7091041
Is Project Brutality related to Brutal Doom? Because all I ever see you guys do is shit on Brutal Doom

>>7091041
Different anon, but I really wish that they'd create a new mod for the new monsters. I play some Brutal Doom every now and then but PB is just WAY too much in comparison, I've never seen such a ridiculously bloated arsenal paired with such a hideous Doom UI scheme in my life.

>>7091062
Project Brutality started as a fan expansion pack for Brutal Doom, and has since broken off into its own beast. More weapons, loads of new enemies, new behaviors, I really love this mod. If you're a glutton for gossip, currently they're forbidden from uploading any major to moddb because Sergeant Mark dislikes the shit out of it.

>>7091062
It's made by the same guy and shares a lot of blood, but they're different mods.

>>7091070
Mark should hate it, its better than his shit in every way

>>7090303
how the fuck isn't doom 3 set before doom

>>7091068
Like I said anon, they give you the options to customize the mod as you see fit.

>>7090641
I played through Doom RPG so many times on my Sony Ericsson that I could one shot everything with the axe

>>7091087
I know the options are there, I don't like the mod so I don't play it.

>>7091096
Word

>>7091085
Doom 3 is a non-canon reboot/reimagining in its own separate universe

>>7091101
Whats the hom meme? I dont get it

>>7091117
It's a pun. He's saying it like "home", but it's HOM: https://doom.fandom.com/wiki/Hall_of_mirrors_effect

If anyone here ends up making a monster sprite randomizer mod please post it
>me love you long time

>>7091123
Ah thank you anon

Which Doom wiki is /vr/ approved: the Fandom Doom wiki or Doomwiki.org?

>>7091009
That's quite the end credits lol

Yeah man, PB goes nuts with the monsters, a lot of them are from Realm667 but you could easily use SLADE and take the sprites you want. It would be tedious but not too difficult.

If you wanted just the sprites and nothing else all you would have to do is rename them

>>7091041
This could also work

>>7091140
>one made under a shitty fucking platform with so many fucking problems
>the other made to replace the former, specially when wikia/fandom started to suck and everyone agreed on using doomwiki instead

>>7091149
Well when you search for something Doom related you get the same article hit from two separate wikis, with Fandom being the higher result usually, so I wasn't sure which was considered "better" or which had the better writing and information. I have noticed Doomwiki seems to have more player strategies for specific monster types

I doubt they're going to drop it unannounced in time, but I'm still holding on to the slim hope that the RotT port is done in time for Christmas. I just wanna couch co-op RotT with my dad on Christmas morning, bros...

>>7091163
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7HeFP_POeg
I want to believe.

>>7091130
Well, looking through replacers I did find this
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=63901

A shit load of R667 monsters. No disrespect to the creator but damn spawning in a few of each monster... looked like a fucking circus lol.

A couple of interesting quirks and some cool SFX though

>>7091163
God it would be awesome but as far as I know it's slated for first quarter 2021. I hope they release Extreme RoTT as DLC. I am fucking hyped to finally get a good sourceport.

>>7091178
Hey, that's neat.

>>7091161
The only reason why the wikia has priority over the good wiki when it comes to search results is because the former is made on a popular website.

>>7091187
>200 page players guide
I would fucking kill to have that. I wonder if its even been scanned? I would be eternally grateful if someone could find that but I doubt it

If we're talking monster packs and randomizers, Universal Entropy is the GOAT.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=66778

>>7091198
Colors are too weird, imo

>>7091178
Hahaha Jesus Christ. If the author just put in a very low chance of spawning each variant/having less variants it would probably fix the mod.

>>7091187
Holy shit, a 200 page guide? Does this mean that Extreme RotT is well-made and not one of those 90's map shovelware compilations I always assumed that it was?

>>7091205
Nah you're looking at it wrong. How many humans standing side by side will be the exact same pigment?

>>7091209
Yeah thats way too batshit. I like some of those designs like the zombie scientist but they should have a low chance to spawn in to make them more special - monsters like the winged barons would be better as a super powered variant that had a very low chance to spawn.

>>7091218
Yep, its pretty based. It's not D!Zone tier shit imo. Some of the levels are absolutely insane but thats the spirit of ROTT, Extreme just fully embraces that wackiness

>>7091223
Look at this, Imps on the left look like they have a broken palette

>>7091232
Look alright to me. Still, tons of monster packs to go around.

>>7091232
Jesus

>>7091232
Ugh those are fucking ugly. Just having 3 versions of each type like >>7091009 is way more appealing and the art is 10x better

>>7091040
Level design is shit in the base game imo, even Shadow Warriors is better. However the expansion Suckin Grits on Route 66 is much better and has some levels almost as good as Duke

They are seething over us lol
>>7074657

>>7091253
They're faggots. These generals are the last bastion of old /vr/. There are oldfags that literally only browse these generals because the rest of nu/vr/ is such shit

>>7091232
The biggest issue that I come across with poor monster variation mods (outside of weird gameplay changes) is that they either have too many variations with a bad spawn rate (like >>7091178) so you can't easily identify which type of monster you're fighting, or they pick bizarre recolourations that are either impossible to see or a jarring/bad combination of colours.

>>7088735
>My aim seems to be climbing and never go down, I'm not quite sure why
Because you're supposed to have mouselook enabled. All the guns have recoil.

>>7091196
Weird, I couldn't even find photos of it online

well now i know to avoid this shit nice going op

>>7091262
Those niggers shitposting on /vr/ about generals, and even /v/with the sony hsilling and ovsidian shilling, are trannies from /leftypol/, also the ones behind the anti half life and quake shitposting.

pol busted all of them since they also post on fucking mlp of all places, and made a thread with all screenshots during this last weekend, since they all went there to defend biden the pedo with copeposting and conseed baits.

>>7091270
not him, buth wih other wads from the past added that? i remember only action doom 1 bfg doing this.

>>7089229
Was two grunt ninjas really the best he could send?

>>7089504
Intriguing. Go on . . .

>>7091209
>>7091228
Dicking around a bit it seems completely random, It could be decent with some balance. Some of these have pretty cool effects though, not sure if that's the creators work or the premade r667 monsters.

This D3 hell knight however, I like. Weird it has no custom SFX though

>>7091273
Truly, this must be the Holy Grail of Rise of the Triad fandom.

I wonder if tweeting Tom Hall about it would give any leads. Hell he probably has a copy and he always seems to enjoy talking about his lesser known games>>7091274

>>7091262
/vr/ was never good.

>>7091290
Yeah I was noticing that it's completely random as well. Not a big fan, but it is nice that this exists.

>>7091295
Didn't mean to quote that post at the end

>>7091298
>[insert board name] was never good
Gay meme, it was much better than it is now.

>>7091298
Anti-Treasure autists ruined it.

>>7091298
Who said it was good?

>>7091310
Cry moar retard

>>7091278
/pol/ isn't capable of doing anything go away

>>7091314
kys euro subhuman

>>7091319
Cry some more alf, people know who you are along with your friends.

>>7091306
>>7091313
No, but seriously. It was first inhabited by a bunch of /v/tards who, after spending five minutes on the new boards, suddenly decided that it somehow makes them better than the rest of /v/. It was ridiculous.

Y'all anons that use Twitter should keep tweeting Jace Hall about the possibility of buying Blood, it might tug on his conscience and with a TRUE gamer miracle we might at least get an (un?)official sourceport. He may be a CEO now but I'll bet my copy of Blood that he's still a game dev at heart.

>>7091295
Don't have twitter, but someone should definitely ask him. I wonder if it even exists or that label was slapped on by mistake

>>7091326
The most important part being that people posted about videogames at the time, /v/ was full of LE shitposting.

>>7091328
Fresh Supply exists, and BuildGDX exists. You're wanting for no real reason.

>>7089831
It's just barely above mediocre. It don't kick ass, sorry. And fuck comm-shat and Tom Hall for not including co-op.

>>7091328
Just get NBlood, BloodGDX or Fresh Supply. But what would be cool is to get a proper Blood 2.
He is too busy with that lawsuit right now anyway. Hopefully he'll win and we'll catch him in a good mood.

>>7089958
Not really. I did and it was barely worth it. Doug Wendt for life though.

>>7091328
what are you going to do, donate to him?

>>7090081
I largely agree with you but I would rejoin that Launch Facility is good and Spin Cycle r0x0rz

>>7091343
It's a shame that Stephan Weyte has expressed interest more than once on reprising his role as Caleb, but has stated that if he so much as does a fan recording Atari would have his ass on a plate. He proudly displays Caleb on his own website.
http://www.stephanweyte.com/
Love that guy. And he's getting older and older! I want that fucking great sequel.

>>7091357
I'm glad Stephan gets new roles in new games now.

>>7090315
There is nothing wrong with Half-Life posting you fucking faggot. It's a great game, contrarians be damned.

>>7089003
He's meant to, he's always had a gimmick for each season but him shaving and the weird tan has this one being the most pronounced.

>>7091376
I think he's talking about the mental defectives obsessing over HL and shitting the thread up for it.

>>7090384
kek. Did you play that Downtown Journey episode?

>>7088745

How was it???

>>7091346
Doug is way too slow. Tarradino is the patrician choice.

>>7091338
I want absolute accuracy (just with 16:9) and the Fresh Supply devs can't update FS because of Atari. Why wouldn't you want a port from one of the original Blood devs anyways?

>>7091381
speaking of that HL's birthday is thursday

>>7091012
I played through it on DOSBox a year or two ago and I would only recommend it if you are a huge BUILD engine game fan. Shit, I am one and I thought it dragged for most of the game.

>>7091395
Fuck HL

>>7091394
GDX (and I think nblood too) can play demos, meaning they are very accurate.

>>7091348
No, I'm going to guilt him into making sure one of the first games he ever worked on isn't eventually lost to time.

>>7091040
The level design is a step below Duke/SW/Blood but is just barely passable and sometimes cool.

>>7091398
cry some more alf, next OP will be that since it was planned since earlier this month along with hexen bday, and you will seethe again as you did last time and at pol.

>>7091407
>>7091324
I think he's broken, he keeps repeating himself and not producing results.

>>7091398
fuck you

So which sourceport do I use for ROTT since you queermo sexuals are talking about it?

>>7091420
You are the one making baits to derail and hate half life as you do with the anti doom and quake with your friends, you double nigger.
its not even surprise that you and you fag friends are desperate.

And yes, next OP will be Half Life as december will be Quake 2 and 3, and november 22 UT'99

>>7091438
wait to buy our nightdive port :)

>>7088723

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/0-9/9chaos

>This Pwad is intended as the secret level to our remake of the "Shores of Hell" episode.

>No hint's, but be afraid, be very afraid... ... and have lots of DOOM style fun!

Jesus what a mess, threw more ammo and health then you would know what to do with and bland level design. Worst offender was having to dry hump every wall as to progress you had to find obtuse secrets, and 75% level you don't even have to finish if you find the "secret" exit early enough.

>>7091441
Oh, and i forgot RTCW being November 20 2001

>>7091447
No, but for real though

>>7091441
Not me but okay. You done now?
You wanna talk about doom, tarn?

>>7091438
They're all shit, that's why we are waiting on the official sourceport that is coming to PC and all consoles.

Civvie used Icculus in his ROTT review.
WinROTT is also somewhat passable I have heard.
Both have weird bugs and glitches.

I just play it through DOSbox.

>>7091391
is I.P. Freely acceptable?

Which's the real Opposing Force release date?

>>7091471
This, they're all a mess so either play it through DosBox or wait for the port of you want to not get pissed off.

>>7091479
Yes, IP Freely is pretty decent. Really the only one to avoid is Doug because hes so slow that there are some secrets he literally cannot get.

>>7091525
should have fixed lighting first
oh well