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7072115 No.7072115 [Reply] [Original]

>be me
>born in 1995
>talking to an older guy online
>he says that when he was in kindergarten (the 1991-1992 school year), the NES was still supremely popular and was ubiquitous amongst his classmates
>I tell him that that probably isn't true since 16-bit consoles were all out by that point, and that he's just trying too hard to sound like an old man
>he replies with "No, the NES was still overwhelmingly popular in 1991. If it wasn't in its prime, it was damn close to it. There was a big drop-off in 1992, but it was still relevant and there were still several new games coming out every month. I'd say that either '93 or '94 was the first pure 16-bit year. A lot of people still owned and played the NES, but the gaming industry had moved on almost entirely to the SNES and Genesis and that's where all the hype and excitement was."
>I reply with "I have my doubts that your recollection is accurate."

Who was in the right?

>> No.7072118

The guy who was actually alive at the time you're arguing about

>> No.7072120

Why would someone born in kindergarten know anything about the nes

>> No.7072123

>>7072120
*in kindergarten at the time

>> No.7072131

>>7072115
>born in 95

No one born past 92 or so belongs on an imageboard.

t. a 1988 newfaggot invader from 2009

>> No.7072132

The guy was right, there were still games releasing for the NES until 94
Also, your age and his age don't matter to the discussion in hand, if he was in kindergarten at the time I doubt he'd remember every little detail about the video game market

>> No.7072134

>>7072118
Just because he was alive doesn't mean he knows more about the time period than me. One could argue that I'm at a better vantage point since I view the time period through the eyes of an adult, whereas he's married to his perspective from when he was a small child.

>> No.7072138

The NES was still common but people were moving on to the 16 bit systems especially by 91 since SNES was out and Genesis was finally getting good 3rd party support by then. But the peak of the 16 bit days was 93-95. In 91 you’d have both a NES and SNES or both a NES and Genesis. Or if your parents were loaded all 3.

>> No.7072143

>>7072115
That guy is right and you are a zoomer.

>> No.7072145

>>7072115
>>he says that when he was in kindergarten (the 1991-1992 school year), the NES was still supremely popular and was ubiquitous amongst his classmates
He's right. Even when the SNES came out many held on to their NESes.

>> No.7072147

>>7072115
Check the gaming mags at the time, dumb shit. There were plenty of NES releases still coming out.

>> No.7072148

NES was hugely popular in the early 90s, especially if you were a little kid and wanted any opportunity to play video games.

>> No.7072150

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New-Style_NES#:~:text=The%20NES-101%20model%20of%20the%20Nintendo%20Entertainment%20System,video%20game%20console%20released%20by%20Nintendo%20in%201993.

>1993 release date
if the NES wasn't still selling well, they wouldn't have redesigned it. The AV Famicom was on sale until 2003.

>> No.7072152

He is right and you are a zoomer faggot.

>> No.7072156

>>7072115
NES was still very big in 1991 since 16 bit was an emerging market. 16 bit wasn't huge until 92-93.

>> No.7072161

>>7072138
So was my friend wrong when he said the NES declined a lot in relevancy between 1991 and 1994? He said that 93 and 94 were the death gasp years, that in 91 it had equal billing with 16-bit, and that in 92 it was clearly becoming secondary to the 16-bit consoles but was still much more healthy than it would become the year after.

>> No.7072162

>>7072115
The other guy was right. NES was still very popular in 1991. It was the last hurrah tho.
It's probably a regional thing as well, but keep in mind that people generally did t buy the newest consoles on release like today. Many didn't get a new console until 3 years into its life. Games stayed popular longer, especially online games... But that's a tangent.

>> No.7072164

>>7072115
Respect your elders, bitch.

>> No.7072173

Of course he's right. When the PS5 comes out is everyone going to have a PS5 immediately? Of course not, it can take over a year for the new console to start taking over. Yes the sega genesis was out for a few years by then, but you underestimate the amount of people whose decision-making process on whether to buy a new console or not comes down to whether it says "Nintendo" on it or not, even back then.

>> No.7072189

>>7072132
I remember kindergarten and having a gameboy. It helped me learn to read considering it had final fantasy legend.
Born 1991 and my parents got me gb, gbc,tg16 and genesis. I missed out on snes.

>> No.7072195

>>7072115
Here in Norway the NES lived until 1995 or so.We were considered a third world country by Japan at that time.

>> No.7072198

>>7072161
Yeah by 92-93 NES was falling out of favor yes.

>> No.7072204

>>7072120
I was born in 1984 and in kindergarten all we talked about was super mario brothers and drawing legend of zelda maps.

>> No.7072205

>>7072115
Almost every male in my class had a nes by 1991
battletoads, tmnt 2, and base wars were big in my class. It was me and one other guy that also had a genesis along with nes. There was one guy that I knew of that had a SNES.

Take a look at Nintendo power in 1991, majority of the coverage in the magazine is still nes. The nes install base was massive by 91 in north america.

>> No.7072207

>>7072205
How about 92?

>> No.7072224

The guy just lived in a poor area. They're always half a generation behind on consoles.

>> No.7072229

As someone born in 1978 I'd say I saw a huge increase in snes popularity around 1992 when Street Fighter II was released.

>> No.7072232

>>7072115
Most people didn't get a new system right after it came out and Nintendo continued to produce new NES titles until 1994, depending on where he lives it's possible that they got the SNES even later

>> No.7072240

>>7072115
I was born in '91 and we all played NES until like '96. We were too poor for newer systems LOL.

>> No.7072241

>>7072207
personally it was starting to lose its luster for me. I had a genesis and was a kid so graphics that were close to the arcade wowed me. I still played classic games on the nes and rented games here and there for it but not as often.

>> No.7072247

>>7072232
Would probably blow OP's mind to know that the height of the SNES's popularity came after the Playstation was released.
But that's what happens when your perception of reality is shaped by retarded youtube videos.

>> No.7072249

>>7072115
He was right, and you're an idiot.

>> No.7072264

>>7072115
Yes, the NES was popular in the early 90's, this fact wont change just because you repost this thread.

>> No.7072268
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7072268

Nes was still extremely popular. The games that kept it relevant then are the games that keep it on people's mouths today.

>> No.7072272

>>7072240
This was most average people. Back then most people didnt rush to the store in droves to buy the latest and greatest gaming thing the second it drops, especially since it was considered a niche activity strictly for male children.

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>>7072115
In Europe it was more diversified, with the Master System and 8 bit computers (especially Amstrad CPC and ZX Spectrum) taking a big chunk of the cake.
1991/early 1992 were times of transition, but by late 1992 the 16 bit systems were already pretty hot.

>> No.7072280

>>7072120
on another board this reply would get 8 million (You)s and derail the thread.

>> No.7072281
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7072281

He's right. Games were way more expensive back then. SNES clocked in at $200, like $380 today, but Final Fantasy II would cost you $80 from 91-92, $154 today.

I got SNES in 92 because our NES got robbed around Christmas so my parents used the insurance money to upgrade. Most of my friends didn't have it yet but they did soon.

Real wages were about what they are now, they've stagnated since 1979, declining for poors, but games back then we're mostly niche for adults. People didn't want to buy their kids a $360 system and then get hit up for $400 (2020 dollars) to start them off.

Square was the shit then, FFIV, Secret of Mana (three player RPG experience on a multitap in 1993 was amazing), FFVI, Chrono Trigger, FF Tactics, and FFVII with only a gap year in there.

>> No.7072282

>>7072115
Yes he was right, did you really fucking tell someone who was there they were wrong? Generations weren't like they are now, EVERYONE had an NES but not everyone upgraded. I would have slapped you if you told me I was wrong you little queer.

>> No.7072290

>>7072115
He was.

Do you think everyone just rushed out and bought brand new systems the day they came out?

>> No.7072292

>>7072272
yeah i have to say the consumer culture wasn't a fraction as toxic as it is now. I watched the cultural shift, as parents were slowly pressured to spend more and more money around the holidays and put it on a credit card.

>> No.7072293

>>7072290
b-but look at the xbox launch!

>> No.7072294
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7072294

>>7072115
this is the most millennial/zoomer mindset imaginable
>new thing comes out
>old thing immediately invalidated by everyone and considered shit
this didn't happen with consoles back then, aside from the fact that the games were a good bit more expensive on release when adjusted for inflation compared to nowadays
you're a faggot op, as usual

>> No.7072301

>>7072294
They also can't imagine the idea of buying used systems. Every discussion I've ever seen on /vr/ about who could afford this or that lists the MSRP price.

>> No.7072303

>>7072115
as someone who was born in 1990, that's pretty accurate really

>> No.7072307

>>7072301
yeah but consoles are kinda buggy and shitty these days, and it's not like jiggling a cartridge will amend your red ring of death

shit i'll even bet making consoles shitty and unreliable is a conscious marketing strategy to kill the used market

>> No.7072312

>>7072307
>red ring of death
It's been 15 years anon, let it go.

>> No.7072313
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>>7072294
Basically this.
Also, maybe unrelated to OP since this supposed guy that was grooming him talked about NES, but 1991/1992 is when Famiclones really took off and invaded all of Asia, Russia, Eastern Europe and Latin America.
I'm talking about the OG famiclones that actually were clones of the Famicom hardware and looked like Famicom, not the NOAC bullshit with playstation shape that came in the late 90s.

>> No.7072316

>>7072313
He's not grooming me! I'm 25 and he's 34...

>> No.7072318

>>7072312
i only reference that because i totally lost interest in the game industry, so thats just my most recent memory

>> No.7072323

Lmao this gotta be a troll but

I was born 91, i can remember from back in the 90s that NES/4th/5th gen were common to see side by side in a house. Just because someone had a playstation didnt mean they wouldn't want to play duck hunt or paperboy from time to time, there was no reason to throw it away or sell it if you still liked it, given that this was pre emulation and pre LCD tv. OP is a faggot

>> No.7072329

>>7072294
Another big factor is, kids used to buy toys and board games and outdoor equipment and movies.
I played a lot of video games, but I also played outside a LOT, and I had a lot of other cool shit. I wasnt actually allowed to just sit and play video games all day, and I probably wouldnt have if it were permitted.

With cultural and technology changes, staying cooped up inside all day was viewed a lot different than 30 years ago.

>> No.7072331

>>7072307
The red ring of death was a good while ago bro.
It'll be /vr/ here in just a few years.
The PS3 had a fairly low YLOD rate compared.
The PS4 and XB1 are way more reliable than previous generations of systems.
The launch models of the PS1 and PS2 had massive flaws and wouldn't read discs in less than a year's usage.

>> No.7072332

>>7072249

>> No.7072339

This would be like saying by 2021 all the kids in a Kindergarten class would have moved past the PS4.

>> No.7072340

It's as simple as grabbing magazines from 1991 and find out.
Yes, there's a lot of NES games in 1991 vidya mags.
Remember, SMB3, one of the NES' greatest hits, if not the greatest of all, had only come out in 1990 in the west.

>> No.7072341

>>7072329
I was born in 1987 and didn't really play outside much during the 90s with anyone because we lived in the countryside and my family hated me desu

>> No.7072347

>>7072115
He was right and you were wrong

I was born in 89. Lots of kids still had NESs when the Genesis and SNES were new. For the same reason people still played PS2 when the PS3 was out.

>> No.7072358

I was still interested in playing NES games while I was in high school from 99-03. They were old games by that time, but not 100% retro yet. It wasn't until I was in college that you started seeing things like NES wallets, belt buckles, t-shirts, etc.
There are always kids stuck with the previous gen systems, usually their parents buying the cheaper version sold after the new system comes out like the top-loader NES, SNES jr, PSone, and PS2 slim.

>> No.7072368

>>7072115
Here is the thing. I grew up in a shithole where everyone was out of date with technology and that really wraps your mind because when you are a kid and you are poor and everyone around you is poor simple things like a family having two cars is mind blowing when you family has one car you share between our parents, grandparents and uncles
As an adult you are aware of how things work in the world but whenever you are recollecting something from the past you still have those memories like I was sure the nintendo 64 launched in 2001 because that's the first time I saw one and it was a huge deal mi friend who has 3 brothers got one for Christmas, that's was the one Christmas gift they all got
And when you realize that in fact you were poor and everyone else was poor and the world was a good decade ahead of you you feel deeply embarrassed and you can get defensive about it because you don't want to admit to other people that you grew up poor
I remember once during Christmas how my French cousin got like 10 expensive gifts and all I got was clothes and two cheap toys and I cried about it and my dad got really mad and that was the first time I knew that yeah, we are poor

>> No.7072378

>>7072115
We all wanted an SNES in '91 but unless we were rich what we want and what we got were different things.

>> No.7072382
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7072382

>>7072115
As many have pointed out, yes, he is right and you are indeed a zoomer faggot.
Of course it depends where you live, but the immediate shift you see now with consoles wasn't a thing at the time, and many overlapped.
Anecdotically, me and my friends all got the Master System around 1991, when the Mega Drive was already out (price drop I guess?), and they kept on selling it in Europe until 1996.

>> No.7072410

>>7072281
>Real wages were about what they are now, they've stagnated since 1979, declining for poors, but

what country you hail from?

>> No.7072425

>>7072131
People born 2002 are now 18 years old.

>> No.7072429

>>7072278
Americans give up on C64 quicker than Europe did and Amiga was never very successful (here both still getting tons of games through 1992 and it only started to decline the following year).

>> No.7072432

>>7072115
I was 6 in 95, my first console was a Genesis. Consoles had a much longer lifespan back then, I was buying and playing Genesis games at Walmart until the Dreamcast/PS2 era. And the original Gameboy was relevant for what, like 10-15 years? It was unironically a different time.

>> No.7072436

>>7072432
The Gameboy debuted in Japan in 89 and was replaced by the GBC in 98, so that was just shy of a decade.

>> No.7072442

>>7072432
I bought a Genesis 3 off the shelf at Toys R Us for $20 around 2001, it was on display next to the Dreamcast stuff. Lots of cartridges still for sale too.

>> No.7072446

>>7072436
Not quite as long as I remembered I guess. Still an impressive run. If I remember, some but not all GBC games were backwards compatible, I think a friend of mine played Pokemon Blue on an old Gameboy in the late 90s.

>> No.7072447

>>7072118
This. I was 17 in 1991 and most people even I knew weren't that early adopters. It wasn't like today where games were mainstream and people were always clamouring for the newest release. Some were, I was mildly among them but even I was outside the norm. It's not surprising at all that most school age kids still generally played Nintendo.

>> No.7072523

>>7072316
>I'm

Still young enough for him to groom you into a crossdressing sissy who services him sexually.

>> No.7072527

>>7072115
He was right. You're an idiot. People were not manic about immediately replacing their game machines with the very newest hardware, and children didn't have money so they waited for fucking Christmas.

>> No.7072542

>>7072436
>The Gameboy debuted in Japan in 89 and was replaced by the GBC in 98
*1999 I mean

>> No.7072543

I was born in '88 and continued to play NES well after the SNES came out. The fact that NES games came out well into the 90s shod be more than enough to answer your question, OP. I remember one of my friends getting Zoda's Revenge (which I later got myself) and enjoying the hell out of it, with neither one of us being bothered by it releasing for an outdated system or that we both had an SNES by that point. I guess growing up in that period helped to shape me - I never viewed a game system as being an outdated thing that was ready to be sold off to fund the next big thing, rather new consoles just added more unique and advanced experiences to the pool of shit to enjoy.

>> No.7072549

>>7072162
>It's probably a regional thing as well
This.
Ever check out the List of Sega Master System Games by Release Year?
In North America, the games dry up around 1991. But in PAL regions, releases stays strong through 1994.

>> No.7072553

>>7072527
Just so you know, the NES/FC came out in 1983 originally but took until 87 to really hit its stride, which was four years in, after ROMs bigger than 64k and ASIC mappers became available. Unless you put out FDS games, which many devs didn't bother with for a variety of reasons, NES games through 86 were still small and didn't have a huge amount of content.

>> No.7072558

>>7072115
Bro in 91 I was in kindergarten and that's the first time I got a nes. I was playing all the time till I fucked the pins up. I didnt get a SNES till 96.

>> No.7072561

>>7072553
shit, the Atari 2600 came out in 77 but its peak was in 81-82 when every other 10 year old in America had one of the things.

>> No.7072562

>>7072425
>tfw had my son in 2004 when I was a junior in high school

>> No.7072567

People can remember kindergarten? I don't even remember much up till about the fourth grade.

>> No.7072568

>>7072543
The subset of gamers who view any video game as "outdated" stems from a specific type of PC nerd who started to pop up around the time of 3d accelerators. This type of player was always more interested in the framerate and special graphic features they could demo in the newest generic shooter, rather than actually playing video games.

>> No.7072573

>>7072432
I live in California and my city didn't have a Walmart till 2001. My mom would take me to toys r us to buy me SNES games.

>> No.7072574

>>7072195
>born in 1991
Denmark here, we got our SNES in 1995 or 1996 lmao. Lots of people I know still had their nes.

>> No.7072575

>>7072115
He was, dude. You know how obnoxious you seem arguing with someone who actually lived through that era?

>> No.7072578

>>7072574
1995-96 was the peak of the SNES. People only started to drift away from it after that because the releases dried up. But right around the time people started to, ZSNES came out and every started playing that.

>> No.7072583

>>7072578
>1995-96 was the peak of the SNES
This my mom bought me the snes pack that came with donkey Kong. I wish I didnt throw the box away

>> No.7072584

>>7072567
I'm sorry you got molested anon, sounds like it was probably bad too

>> No.7072585

>>7072561
>>7072553
seems accurate. the PS1 came out in 94 but its zenith was in 98-00.

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>>7072578
1995 was one hell of a year for Super Nintendo.
I remember getting Killer Instinct, Yoshi's Island, DKC2... and then, I wasn't into RPGs (I don't think they were a really popular genre back then as many people believe), but games like CT and EB also came out that year.

>> No.7072592

>>7072207
Major games like Mega Man 5 and 6 and Kirby’s Adventure are still coming out all the way through 93. It’s not as if all at once everyone threw their NES consoles in the closet and replaced them with a 16-bit console. The vast majority of people had both plugged to their sets.

>> No.7072594

>imagine the smell
Fuck bros I miss going to toys r us buying a new game and getting the new game smell.

Why dont new games have that new smell game

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>>7072447
Early adopters were the suckers who bought a Mac 128 at launch in 84 after seeing le ebic Orwell Super Bowl ad and realized they couldn't do anything but move the mouse around and draw stuff in MacPaint. The Mac was not really a useable machine until late 86 after the Plus came out and there started to be some software for it.

>> No.7072601

>>7072585
PS1 and Saturn had kinda weak launch titles too, a very slow start. 5th gen didn't kick off proper until 1996 I think.

>> No.7072608

>>7072601
Yeah, I remember seeing PSX games at my local rental place in 1995 and thinking the longboxes looked cool, but other than having Descent and Doom, which I recognized from PC, the original games didn't look very good.

>> No.7072612

also yeah, the Amiga was pretty useless in those early days of 85-86 when you had the bug-filled pizza box A1000 and the only games it had were Apple II ports with more colors. primetime for the Amiga didn't start until 88.

>> No.7072614

>>7072608
Yeah I remember at my local store they had always a soccer game on, wasn't too interested.
Maybe if I had seen something like Toshinden I would have been impressed, but not enough to shell out the big bucks yet, besides, at the time I was way more familiar with Sega and Virtua Fighter.

>> No.7072624

>>7072115
its still popular today

>> No.7072628

>>7072612
Since when was the Amiga ever not useless? (^:

>> No.7072629

>>7072115
People didn't jump generations as they do now, this is true all the way up to PS2; Sony kept supporting and marketing PS1 even after the PS2 release.

>> No.7072635

>>7072624
>*mic drop*

>> No.7072641 [DELETED] 

>>7072635
*gives a glance at the people it's highly popular with*

Might want to pick up that mic bruh.

>> No.7072645

And then there were machines like the VIC-20 or Colecovision that died too soon and never really got to "peak."

>> No.7072647

>>7072641
*realizes NESchads can't keep winning even after 35 years*
Yeah I'm sorry, I forgot to say: "Based"
*mic drop*

>> No.7072657

>>7072115
>>be me
fuck off.

I was born in 1988, and in kindergarten most kids who played video games still had a NES. I got Kirby's Adventure and Mega Man 6 right when they came out in like 1994, and those are great and complex games that push the system to its limits. While the SNES and Genesis were the hot new things on the market in 1989 and 1991, people used to be patient and see what those systems had on offer after they established themselves. Plus kids were at the mercy of their parents and were reluctant to buy a new more expensive game machine that just plays games and rots your brain.

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>>7072115
Nintendo Power in 1992 was still publishing list and reviews of new NES games. I know this because I was just looking for Super Adventure Island 2 release coverage and was flipping through april 1992's edition of Nintendo Power

>> No.7072662

shit, the ZX Spectrum lasted an entire decade and lived long enough to get a "port" (if you can call it that) of Street Fighter II

>> No.7072668

Castlevania 3 was 92 and Kirby's Adventure was 93 so you tell me.

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1992, this was one of my favorite games, still is.

>> No.7072696

>>7072115
You are such a revisionist little shit. 'No, your memories of your childhood era are wrong.' get wrecked you arrogant shitbucket. Yes, 8-bit consoles were still hot shit in many parts of the world and people didn't dump them the second 16-bit ones came out. In 1992 the Master System was the biggest thing where I come from and some kids were still stuck with Atari 2600 in '94 when the Mega Drive and SNES were really taking over.

>> No.7072706

>>7072592
>Megaman 6
>major game
rofl...

>> No.7072708

>>7072668
Castlevania 3 was 1989 in Japan and 1990 in the US, you cum guzzler

>> No.7072714

I was in kindergarten in 2016 and everyone in my class played Intellivision.

>> No.7072718

>>7072229
Exactly, I was born in 1980 and was in 6th grade when street fighter 2 came out on snes. It was a really big deal and everyone needed a snes at that point.

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>> No.7072727

>>7072115
I was in second grade in '91 and can confirm. I got a genesis in 4th grade ('93) and all my classmates were blown away by it. A lot of families didn't rush out and grab the next big thing right away back then.
Moms and dads weren't all video game whores then, like a lot of them are now, and kids had word of mouth alone. I didn't even get a PSX until 8th grade (late '97). And they had been available since what? '95? I got it because my dad got a $20,000 severance from his job and wanted to give me something nice. If that hadn't happend, I may not have gotten one for a few more years.

These days every fucker who plays games has the next big shit preordered a year in advance and can't handle not having top of the line everything.
The market used to be a lot more consumer friendly and less OCD driven. Now it's all a huge corperate wank job where you end up buying a new machine every 2-3 years because a "pro" edition came out and you can't handle not having the absolute best shit.

>> No.7072746

>>7072567
>>7072584
Yeah, that's definitely not normal.
>>7072568
Absolutely. Graphics were of course a thing, but the kind of discussion we have nowadays about CRTs, and frame rates and resolution was completely absent from mainstream game discourse.
>>7072608
>>7072614
Yeah, I don't remember earing much about the PSX until Tekken, and the big boom was with Gran Turismo and Metal Gear Solid.
>>7072696
Also, at least in Italy, the 8-bit consoles were advertised as the ones "for kids", whereas the 16-bit ones were more for teenagers (completely made up I know, but that was how the market was).

>> No.7072764 [DELETED] 

the Apple II was from the fucking 70s but it wasn't ousted from school computer labs across America until he Mac LC arrived in the early 90s

>> No.7072775

the Apple II was from the fucking 70s but it was still getting new software in the late 80s and wasn't ousted from school computer labs across America until the Mac LC arrived in the early 90s

>> No.7072801

By 95 the NES was considered outdated. I knew these brothers who insisted they didn't need a SNES because they had an NES and it was "better." Turned out that's what their parents told them to save money and they believed it, lol.

>> No.7072828

>>7072549
It's even more regional than that. I grew up in an area of america where people were still on atari until 1993 and most skipped NES entirely due to economic reasons in the area. By the time things picked up again the SNES was already out for years, and the n64 was just on the horizon.

>> No.7072831

>>7072828
By "on atari" I mean that the 2600 was the only console they owned.
We had a colecovision, so that was cool.
Fuckin... Venture.

>> No.7072835

my dad had a C64 for a decade until he finally get a PC in 95

>> No.7072846

>>7072425
So?

>> No.7072851
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"Where's the Nintendo?"

"We don't have a Nintendo. We got a Colecovision plugged into the black-and-white TV."

>> No.7072885

>>7072131
>t. a 1988 newfaggot invader from 2009

Were you from reddit by any chance?

>> No.7072913

>>7072115
I didn't have a Sega Genesis until 1994. Kids didn't just get what ever the fuck they wanted back then. Parents will still parents back then.

>> No.7072940

Even today people still play old consoles a few years into the new one's lifespan. I was playing SNES when the N64 was out, N64 when the gamecube was out, PS1 when the PS2 was out and so on.

>> No.7072946

Your brother is right, dipshit. Not only did he actually experience it, but he's actually correct. The NES had a huge install base so games were still coming out in 93 and 94. Just because a new console comes out doesn't mean everyone upgrades immediately. By 91 and 92 a few people might have an NES thanks to christmas, but overall more people would still have the older console.

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>>7072940
Man, maybe there should be like a message board or something for people like that.

>> No.7072949

>>7072134
Actually it does. Retarded zoomer.

>> No.7072951

>>7072224
Is this the gay cousin of Babbage's Gramps?

>> No.7072963

>>7072280
lol

>> No.7072967

When it was just the SNES and NES, you had to be specific whether you were talking about the Super Nintendo or the Regular Nintendo. I only remember people using the terms "SNES" and "NES" in text, like in magazines and then eventually the internet.

>> No.7072980

>>7072851
Ohhh... I forgot about Kenny's parents.

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>>7072947
There is.

>> No.7073041

>>7072706
Is Mega Man not a popular series? Was Mega Man 6 not an entry in the series? You can mine the word “major” for all it’s worth, but I think the sense of it that I meant was perfectly clear.

>> No.7073128

>>7072425
You're missing the point, faggot. Unironically, the point is that you're a faggot.

>> No.7073129

>>7072951
It's the same gay guy, believing he is clever by making a new, similar-sounding name.

>> No.7073150

>>7072115
He's right. Thinking back on the sequence of events, I first saw a Genesis at some point in the 92-93 school year. Cannot remember when I saw an SNES. I never owned a console though.

>> No.7073165

>>7072578
Actually 1992-1993 was its best selling year https://vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/Fourth_generation_of_video_games
Genesis 1993-1994

>> No.7073243

>>7072429
One issue perhaps is that most of the computer game industry in the US was focused on CRPGs, adventure games, and other genres that favor a lot of memory and static, hi-res pictures and 16-bit machines offered more capability there. PC compatibles were also starting to get VGA and sound cards while in earlier times C64 and Amiga held the edge in audiovisuals.

>> No.7073254

>>7073243
on that note, it was still normal for most DOS games up to 1990 to still be able to run on an 8086 machine with CGA. Even in 1991 there was still quite a bit of software with 8086 compatibility. only in 92 did that pretty much disappear and all software required a newer PC with VGA. because not everyone had the latest tech and there were still tons of 8086 and 286 machines in use.

>> No.7073262

Computers were expensive back then, you didn't buy a new one every 3 years in those days. The 90s was something of an exception because tech was advancing so fast that your PC was completely surpassed in 2 years of purchase.

>> No.7073274

>>7072134
Seems like you just want /vr/ to agree with you, why do you care this much about being right about nothing?

>> No.7073285

>>7072118
lol fpbp
the idea of utterly dropping support for a console as soon as its successor comes out is a relatively new one and one that nintendo has always shied away from
like people have said Nintendo kept going for a long time after the SNES launched; for example, Zoda's Revenge was released for the NES all the way in March 1994; A full blown, first party NES title nearly three years after the Super Nintendo launched.

>>7072134
you're wrong, sorry bud

>> No.7073293

>>7072134

You're as bad as the FF XII fags who were 9 years old at the time who pretend they know more about fan reception to it in 2006 than I did when I was 17 and all over forums at the time.

>> No.7073317

>>7072115
You zoomer faggot, at that time new game consoles were like $200 and Mommy and Daddy won't buy a new one if they already had a very good Nintendo that they bought 2 or 3 years before.

>> No.7073671

I got a Sega Master System in 1992. I, being a young idiot, specifically requested this over a Mega Drive because it had a Tom and Jerry game at the time.

I never talked about video games with other students though. The 8-bit systems were around in the early '90s and parents weren't in a rush to buy the next best console like they are today.

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>>7072115
So you think everyone who owns a PS4 now will upgrade to a PS5 within a year?

>> No.7073703

>>7072591
SNES owners benefitted a lot from the delay of the Nintendo 64. Even by freaking 1996, it was still getting stuff like DKC3, Street Fighter Alpha 2, Terranigma, Doom, Mega Man X3, DBZ Hyper Dimension, etc.

>> No.7073705

>>7073703
And by 1996, they were super cheap. First console I bought was a SNES for $50 at Toys R Us. Had enough to buy some decent games like DKC2, 3, Mario All Stars and Blackthorne.

>> No.7073831

zoomers think we immediately threw away our nes because snes had been released.

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we were still playing NES when PSX rolled out in my der shithole. i'm sure they still play NES in North Korea to this day.

>> No.7073845

>>7072115
I had friends who went from NES to Playstation and skipped 16bit consoles all together.

>> No.7073851

>>7073845
>NES to Playstation
sounds like me.
i only had nes and ps because i play mostly pc.
i played those 16 bits console using emulators in late 90s till early 2000s.

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>>7072115
Yeah man I was born in 93 and people were still playing nes right as the 64 was coming out...

Wtf are you talking about? Lol
People sill play it and snes and 64 to this day, why wouldn't it still be popular.

And he's saying he remembers it being popular with kids in kindergarten, fuckin kindergartners are dumb as hell. wtf do they know about popularity, they just happy to play videogames.

>> No.7073990

>>7073695
I pity the people who do.

>> No.7074010

>>7072446
I played Pokemon Silver on an original Game Boy, I didn't get an actual GBC until I was in high school.

>> No.7074164

>>7072115
Because everyone buys a new console at full price as soon as they are released, right?

>> No.7074853

>>7072115
Zoomers should enjoy old games but not pretend to be experts on the history of them, this shit pisses me off
t. 1999 baby

>> No.7074882

>>7072446
Everything before Crystal is technically a monochrome Game Boy game with "GBC-enhanced" features. In Red/Blue's case the only "enhancement" is the GBC itself had built-in color palletes it would choose when it detected those games.

>> No.7074887

>>7072134
>My e-celeb videos are worth more than your lived experience
Gas zoomers

>> No.7075485

This stupid post got me thinking, I was born in 1990 and I don't remember kids talking about video games at all. I know kids that had consoles and we did play games if we ever hung out, but I only remember talking about games with 1 person. That was pretty much the norm with everyone I knew untill the 360 came along.

>> No.7075506

>>7075485
Also born in 90 but I specifically remember console warring with a friend of mine after Christmas 98 when I got an n64 and he got a ps1.
I had a genesis previously and my neighbors had an NES, both of which got used when we hung out but never really discussed. But I could chalk that up to age.

>> No.7075512

>>7072115
Only rich kids got the SNES on release. Most had to wait a year or two. NES was still going strong in 1991 and they were still making games for up to 1993-4 iirc.

tl;dr stfu

>> No.7075734

>>7072115
the older guy, totally. Technology used to have a longer shelf-life than it does now. For example I remember getting VHS tapes for christmas in 2003.

>> No.7075737

>>7075485
>>7075506
I don't remember kids having more than 4 or 5 games also, that's why we didn't talk much about them, unless we had a PC.

>> No.7075760

>>7075734
also i would point out that in many regions consoles came out much longer afterwards. In Europe we got the SNES in mid 1992. If you consider that tech had longer shelf life, so by 1993 still playing NES would be quite normal in the UK.

OP really showing how gay and bent zoomers are

>> No.7075762

>>7075737
>I don't remember kids having more than 4 or 5 games also,
aaaaaand this is why Sony Playstation fanboys who go on about "muh 99 bajillion games" are so wrong. Most kids had <10 games.
in fact most kids all had the same games.

>> No.7075814

>>7072115
low hanging fruit

>> No.7075896

I was kindergarten in 90. That guy is right. I got a genesis in 92 after street fighter 2 came out. I exclusively played NES until then. Still played NES after that too.

>> No.7075902

>>7075762
meanwhile Amiga kids had an entire box full of copied game floppies instead of getting one game for their birthday and one for Christmas every year

>> No.7075968

>>7075902

Explaining the hate of the Americans towards 80s home computers.
>HURRR DURRR ARMIGAAAAAAA DURR DURR NOT NES

>> No.7076053

I was born in 89. Of my friends that had consoles two had a NES and never got a 16 bit console, one had a SNES, I had a Genesis. NES was still getting software. I can remember when my bro got Kirby's Adventure.
>>7075762
I wasn't burning them myself yet but kids would give me pirated PS1 games and I knew how to disc swap. Towards the end of the decade I would rip rented games myself. I probably had well over 100 games between what I owned and pirated.

>> No.7076416

>>7075762
in my country, we usually buy bootleg games because they are much cheaper.
but the cost of nes cartridges are still so much costly compared to bootleg CD for PS.
i usually buy like 10 CDs each time i went to the game stores.
FYI, the cost of 1 bootleg CD was US$ 0.5 (based on convertion rate at that time).

>> No.7076513

>>7072115
born in 1990 and I played nes until the sega released. I never had a snes. I had the b64 the day it came out.

>> No.7076524

>>7075762
I have a ps4 and I only have 6 games

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>>7072368

>> No.7076628

>>7076585
>shareware disks
>kool aid
>huey lewis on cassette
My man made out

>> No.7076647

>>7075762
Me and my cousin had played like more than 100. They were all pirated.

>> No.7076654

>>7075968
Very ironic how both atari ST and amiga were made in the USA yet mutts chose to buy the more expensive and inferior machines from a foreign country. I guess they were all too dumb for sim city.

>> No.7076698

>>7072115
What's with people born in 1995 thinking they know more about vidya then late 80s people? Just yesterday I ended up having an argument with some sperg born in 95 saying the most retarded shit and his first console was a ps2 lmao

>> No.7076719

>>7072115
The guy was in the right
Just because a new console was out, doesn't mean people immediately stopped playing the older one

Many probably couldn't afford a new console right away. And they still sold NES games for years after they stopped making them, thus people kept playing the system. Especially if it is the system they had.

I was playing NES a lot when Playstation came out because my parents bought my brother one and I got the old NES. Had a lot of fun with Super Mario 3

>> No.7077253 [DELETED] 

>>7076654
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmlGIoewQWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmlGIoewQWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RDgt26Zcio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb6VvtAcmb8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbbkDEeolYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOGxxYm4z5I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aBIfDZ8Llk

Come on, let's do this.

>> No.7077268

>>7072115
He's absolutely right. At least here in the USA. Many of the biggest hits of the NES were just being released or weren't even out yet by then.

You know Kirby from Smash Bros? He was grayscale and not particularly well known until 1993.

>> No.7077276

>>7076654
>I guess they were all too dumb for sim city.
wait, couldn't you just play that on DOS?

>> No.7077294

>>7076654
Who's fault was it that the North American divisions of Commodore and Atari were totally hopeless and couldn't market the computers for shit?

>> No.7077315

>>7076654
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmlGIoewQWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RDgt26Zcio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb6VvtAcmb8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbbkDEeolYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkZVU345KKM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOGxxYm4z5I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aBIfDZ8Llk

Come on, let's do this.

>> No.7077327

>>7077276
Yes. It was ported to DOS. I hadn't realized the game was developed for the C64. Now I'm wondering what my "big" box copy of Sim City is actually for. C64 or DOS. I might have completely ignored what platform is was for when I bought it a decade ago.

>> No.7077337

>>7077327
Will Harvey originally wrote SC for the C64 in 1985 but took several years to find a publisher and so it didn't get out until 89. For some reason they also opted to sell Harvey's original C64 game even though it was several years old and terribly out-of-date by then.

>> No.7077343 [DELETED] 

>>7072561
There were still new Atari 2600 games coming out in the late 80s.

>> No.7077356

>>7072173
>Yes the sega genesis was out for a few years by then

I was 7 in 1991 and I didn't know the Genesis existed until Sonic came out. I thought Sonic was a launch game and had no idea why they bothered selling the game by itself since it came with the system. I was 7. My family still only had NES until christmas 92

by the early 90s, every friend's house and our extended family had an NES. SNES' and Genesis' started appearing in some lucky kids' houses, and it was a big deal if a family had one.

>> No.7077362

>>7075902
But what can it mean when 80% of those were unplayable crap?

>> No.7077392

>>7076654
I'll explain what happened.

>1987
>guy goes in store and sees Amiga running bouncing ball demo
>"Neat, can it run dBase?"
>"Nope."
>"Oh well never mind then."

>> No.7077541 [DELETED] 

I was born in 1981. And was 10 in 1991. The NES was still the most popular console on the market at that point in time. The Super Nintendo didn;t get a NA released until August of 1991. The Genesis still had a pretty small market share before the release of Sonic. The TurboGrafx-16 was floundering. But the genesis did become popular during the Christmas season of 1991, when it was competing with the SNES, and it took Nintendo by surprise. The NES was popular all the way up to the release of the Playstation 1.

>> No.7077548

>>7077392
yeah the Amiga just didn't have the software people wanted. no Lotus 123, no dBase, one shitty version of Wordperfect and a shitty version of MS Works.

>> No.7077551

I was born in 1981. And was 10 in 1991. The NES was still the most popular console on the market at that point in time. The Super Nintendo didn't get a NA release until August of 1991. The Genesis still had a pretty small market share before the release of Sonic (though sports games and arcade ports helped its popularity). The TurboGrafx-16 was floundering. But the genesis did become popular during the Christmas season of 1991, when it was competing with the SNES, and it took Nintendo by surprise. The NES was popular all the way up to the release of the Playstation 1.

>> No.7077556

>the Amiga just didn't have the software people wanted
i dunno what went wrong in America but here there was all the productivity stuff you'd ever need.

>> No.7077568

>>7077315
Most of these look like bad Flash games.

>> No.7077827

>>7072118
/thread
Why did this was followed by nearly 200 posts is anyone's guess

>> No.7077835

>>7072115
I bet you buy new iPhone each year, throwing away the previous one.

Changing the cut-off date was a total disaster for this board.

>> No.7078659

>be me
>be 1995fag
>first console was nes because that was all we had beside gameboy until getting an n64 a few years later
He was right op, not everyone jumped onto next gen immediately, surely you would know as we have had many such cases now.

>> No.7078669

>>7073254
You paid almost 4k bucks for an IBM XT new. Damn right you were going to use that thing into GHW Bush's administration at which point you'd finally get a shiny new 386 PC.

>> No.7078976

>>7072115
Early 90s wasn't the highlight of the NES if anything it was the downfall of the NES because Nintendo stopped giving a shit about what games were on it. So the NES became a dumping ground for every company looking to make a quick buck.

>> No.7078982

>>7078976
They'd gotten past the teething period when they needed to be very careful and have strict Q/C standards because the North American market was still fragile due to the video game crash. By 1990 they were confident enough to not have to worry/care anymore. By 92 they also dropped the 5 games a year rule.

>> No.7078983

>>7077568
Flash and Mobile garbage are the direct descendants of home computer shovelware garbage.

>> No.7078992

>>7072115
I was in kindergarten in 91-92 and yeah its true. Most people didn't get a SNES right away. A lot of people still had only the NES. Like every other gen.

>> No.7079056

OP's got the 'tism

>> No.7079058

>>7072708
He was off by two years so that makes him a cum guzzler? Really?

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>>7072115

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>>7072131

>> No.7079104

>>7072115
NES was popular until Genesis came out.

>> No.7079173

>>7072131
my brother
I'm a newfag (in the classical sense of the term) who came with the gaiaonline influx in 2007/2008
Lurked for literal years before ever posting, because that's how it was done back then
RIP 4chan

>> No.7079191

>>7072115
That's cool and all but let's get down to business: did y'all fuck?

>> No.7079209

>>7072115
The old guy is right. SNES and Genesis continued to be the most popular all the way up until late '96, too.

>> No.7079616

Only rich little fags get consoles on launch day
I only got myself a SNES on 1995 and a N64 on 1999 and many friends still had their NES/famiclones at that point

>> No.7079662

>>7078976
You're a fucking moron. Many of the best games on NES were released in the early 90s.

>> No.7079719

>>7072115
>old guy
>in kindergarten during 91-92

stay adorable

>> No.7079739

>>7072115
I mean I was born in 1991 and the pre-school I went to had a NES that included Mario 3 so...it wouldn't really shock me,

>> No.7080120

>>7079739

They could have had an Pong machine and it wouldn't have surprised you, you were a fucking little kid.
People born after 85 really need to stop commenting, you weren't old enough to understand what was going on.

>> No.7080125

>>7072115
This is stupid

>> No.7080152

>>7080120
My point was that nes were clearly still around so the idea that people still liked them isn't far fetched, anon.
Maybe you should chill out and stop being retarded

>> No.7080294

>>7072115
The NES was still very strong up until the PS1 came out where I'm from.

Born 1988, that's western europe and it was true for kids of all backgrounds, rich or poor.

>> No.7080298

>>7080294
In fact, we were still playing NES on my 11th birthday.

On my 12th birthday we were also still playing NES at a poor kid's birthday.

Most people I knew never had a SNES/Megadrive at that time. Everyone jumped straight from NES to PS1.

>> No.7080303

>>7080298
>On my 12th birthday we were also still playing NES at a poor kid's birthday.

I mean when I was 12, at a poor kid's birthday

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>>7072425

>> No.7080825

>>7072115
Yes he's right. I lived through that era. You're an idiot btw.

>> No.7081246 [DELETED] 

>>7079104
>NES was popular until Genesis came out.

The North American SNES was still a hit at launch, and has a lot of strong software between August of 1992 to February 1992. But Sega Managed to soft reboot the Genesis with Sonic 1 months before the US launch of the SNES and it actually caused some real holiday competition. The genesis was sold $10-20 cheaper, had a Sonic 1 bundle, and a strong back catalogue from 1989-1991 . Plus the developers in general were getting better with the hardware by 1991. Even when the Genesis was on the market in 1989 - 1990, the NES was still outselling it by a large margin. The Turbo Graphx 16 was released in the west as well, and fell out of retail outlets. By 1990, the Genesis was picking up quite a bit of momentum with Sega's licensed games, and sports games like Sportstalk football and Madden. But also, Nintendo had to drop their console exclusivity clause with third party developers, which caused many to start developing for Sega's 16bit console as well.

>> No.7081256

>>7079104
>NES was popular until Genesis came out.

The North American SNES was still a hit at launch, and has a lot of strong software between August of 1991 to February 1992. But Sega managed to soft reboot the Genesis with Sonic 1 months before the US launch of the SNES and it actually caused some real holiday competition. The genesis was sold $10-20 cheaper, had a Sonic 1 bundle, and a strong back catalogue from 1989-1991 . Plus the developers in general were getting better with the hardware by 1991.

When the Genesis was on the market in 1989 - 1990, the NES was still outselling it by a large margin. The Turbo Graphx 16 was released in the west as well, and fell out of retail outlets. By 1990, the Genesis was picking up quite a bit of momentum with Sega's licensed games, arcade ports like Strider, and sports games like Sportstalk football and Madden. But also, Nintendo had to drop their console exclusivity clause with third party developers, which caused many of them to start developing for Sega's 16bit console as well.

>> No.7081439

>>7076585
Seeing photos like this depress the shit out of me. I think "wow, I was really fortunate as a kid” but then remember it’s a bunch of consumerist bullshit in the first place and more shit doesn’t equal happy.