/vr/ - Retro Games

VF is the better game, the 90s were the decade of anime edge though so Tekken got more popular

>>7047224
Tekken, no contest. Far more stylish.

>>7047282
Tekken was mostly spectacle.
Virtua Fighter is more technically impressive with a deeper and more complex fighting system. But also has a weaker art design than Tekken. VF didn't hit it's stride with it's visuals until VF2. I always saw Dead or Alive as a sweet spot in between VF and Tekken.

I want to say Tekken looked prettier, but this is false. It looked like dogshit even with texture mapping and the game mechanics were worse. I'd argue VF2 was better than Tekken 3 as well.

>I want to say Tekken looked prettier, but this is zoom. It zoomed like zoom even with zoom and zoom were zoom. I'd zoom zoom zoom hipster contrarianism.

Tourneytards are like "muh technical skill" but Tekken 3 only really caught on because they threw a bunch of shitty casual minigame modes and unlockables in it. I guess they noticed people loved unlocking dumb clone characters in tekken 2 like the meme raptor and kangaroo, the meme panda or the meme angel and devil.

>>7047224
Virtua Fighter has better gameplay but Tekken has the better soundtrack.

>>7047224
Virtua Fighter. Don't get me wrong, I love Tekken, but Virtua Fighter definitely has more soul.

Virtua Fighter. The first Tekken is unredeemable crap in every single aspect but the music.

>>7047282
Not the first one.

>>7047434
Damn bros I just can't let this slide.

>>7047527

Never played a Tekken game and I like Virtua Fighter.

Virtua Fighter is the better game for sure.

>>7047527
>xe thinks I'm OP
Lmao take your pills fucking schizo

>>7047543
No, I've cross-linked to your post you absolute buffoon.

>>7047547
It's funny that you let my post live rent-free in your head to come over and seethe in another anon's thread, niggerhead. Also nice strawman with those webms designed to make Tekken 3 look as bad as possible. Why don't you show actual gameplay instead of prerendered attract mode shit?

>>7047224
If you're referring to the original, rushed porto of VF then there's really no contest.

VR Remix is about the same level as the original Tekken, but both were completely superceded by their sequels. VR2 for Saturn was a masterpiece.

>>7047224
Tekken was just a cheap copy Namco made for which he had to take several ex-Virtua Fighter developers (Seiichi Ishii, Kunihiko Nakata, etc) because they couldn't do it by themselves.

I prefer the original shit.

>>7047224
Tekken was just a dumbed-down copy Namco made for which they had to take several Virtua Fighter developers (Seiichi Ishii, Kunihiko Nakata, etc) because they couldn't do it by themselves.

I prefer the original shit.

most people don't know that the main designer for VF left SEGA AM2 and joined namco to make tekken
now you know

>>7047949
yeah because he wasn't happy with the visual design. He didn't wanted to make a better game, he wanted to make a fancier game which was more casual

tekken is the more attractive game visually, but virtua fighter is more fun long term

>>7047949
That would explain why Prototype Jack looked so similar to a scrapped Virtua Fighter character (which recently, someone found can be activated in the game via hacking).

I had both and really enjoyed each of them, but their sequels is what really made me fall in love with them.

VF was always on top in terms of graphics, gameplay, and animations

The only thing it really lacked was style

>>7047224
VF is better than Tekken
VF2 is better than Tekken 1&2
Tekken 3 is better than any VF game

>>7048240
Nostalgia.

VF5FS is the best fighting game of all time

VF chain input buffers are trash

>>7048250
FS sucks and we should have been left with 5R instead. We need ports of 3TB, 4ft , and 5R badly.

FS is like one giant compromise.

>>7048375
What don't you like about FS that you think was done better in R?

>>7047954
I'm convinced that the only reason VF never got popular outside the first 2 games is because of the generic and uninspired characters
They looked fine in low poly but they started looking really bland by VF3. But it's really just the designs themselves that sucks because the animations and everything else is just splendid
They really need a good artist to direct the game's overall visuals, it always looked so sterile. But alas, now it's dead

>>7048431
The designs aren't bad, they should have gone with Terada's style though and done a cel-shaded look

But the series is not dead, Sega announced some new VF project at TGS

>>7048475
yes terada's illustrations are good but they look nothing like in the game
honestly i don't think any game ever done terada's concept art any justice, it's not exactly an easy thing to translate to 3D, if it is even possible

>>7048506
Yes, that's what I'm talking about. Amano's art has been successfully translated to 3D, I believe Terada's can as well. Just look at what Arcsys has done with cel shading in recent years. It would be amazing to see it done with a 3D fighter like VF.

I think the team could pull it off, I mean to this day VF5 still looks great, they're no slouches when it comes to graphics

>>7048515
>Amano's art has been successfully translated to 3D
It has?
What game?
Even animation is hard to do Amano's art justice. It has the overal silhouete of his drawings but doesn't have that sketchiness and chaotic nature to it

>>7048527
It was just a promo for his manga, but it nails the aesthetic, including the sketchiness you mentioned

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv4SvGn2bX0

>>7048545
That looks purdy gud
Shame about the 360p

Primal Rage

>>7048205

Is that a screenshot of the 32X port of Virtua Fighter 1, in that top pic? The arcade models are much higher poly than that. But the 32X port is still really good. One of the few reasons to own a 32x.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiDJEJ-RfmM

>>7048292
Agreed

>>7047224
Virtua Fighter on 32x is best

>>7047431
yeah or the meme robot or the meme robot clone or the meme swordsman or the meme swordswoman or the meme sumo or the meme bear or the meme jaguarheads or the meme asian martial arts movie stars, fighting games have never been known for having eccentric characters and that's why i only play kung fu from 1985

>>7047282
The original Tekken was garish, ugly looking shit. It did get better later, but still had a certain look to it.
And I say that as a Tekken fan who could barely get used to the VF series.

>>7047224
DoA

>>7047224
Toshinden 1 on the consoles was better than both in 94-95.
Then in 96-97 VF2 was the best choice and from 98, Tekken 3, and after that, Soul Calibur and DOA2.

>>7050995
The only good Toshinden was on the GB, every other version was garbo

>>7048431
without any question is lacks sexappeal. The problem with DoA is that the character designs got more and more generic. DoA1 probably had the best character design and went downhill.

Fighting vipers is the best mix of sexappeal and street fighter. But the music, sound and level design is bad in that game. And a lot of characters are lackluster. Overall the character design could be better.

HEavy metal geo matrix has pretty good character design and level design. Soul Calibur is also pretty good at character design.

>>7051564
fighting vipers is definitely a nudge in the right direction

>>7051598
>fighting vipers is definitely a nudge in the right direction

Fighting Vipers is quite a bit different on a gameplay level, as it has the body armour gameplay and walled arenas (that could be broken). I really like the series. Fighters MegaMix on the Sega Saturn is made using the Fighting Vipers Saturn port's game engine. But also adds Virtua Fighter 3 move set and 3D movement button to the VF2 roster. It is a mash-up between Fighting Vipers and VF2/VF3 with guest characters form other AM2 games.

>>7051598
smells like honey

>>7051598
Conceptualize the scent

>>7048240
Yeah that's pretty close, DESU. Tekken 1 was awful, but Tekken 2, when it came out, had far more flash than anything else around. And it was on the Playstation, where Sega in the west fucked everything up.

I have been a Tekken/ Soulblade player since 1998, but after playing VF2 and VF5S in 2018 I fell in love with virtua fighter gameplay, shame that VF series doesn't have " character endings".

>>7051959
VF4 Evo was really good on the PS double

>>7051959
VF does, however, have a pretty decent anime with two seasons and a really good short manga. Those are great for getting to know the story and characters

>>7051959
True, virtua fighter needs much more atmospheric and cg extravaganca. Unlockable cg clips would have made the game so much more marketingable. The virtua fighter team needed the director of D2 and illbleed, then they would have struck gold on all ends.

>>7052051
Pai taking a bath is always a good sight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZjEnKgQVmk&feature=youtu.be&t=123

>>7052813
I am more a sarah guy.

>>7052051
damn that art is hot!

>>7050616
is the first entry any good?

>>7053483
>I am more a sarah guy.

>>7053693