/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7041853
Yes.

Soul but bad

good dogshit

>>7041896
this

>>7041853
Sega never made anything “good”

>>7041853
Played it for maybe 15 mins and forgot about it.
The first one was good.

Japanese people don't understand good game design. They are like robots. For Japanese people, their idea of "cool" is following nonsense melodrama stories and doing stupid mini-games. For a Westerner, good games are focused around freedom and have an edge of wittiness to them. If you compare Shenmue to the appeal that GTA III has, the difference is night and day. You can see this same kind of philosophy quite easily if you are comparing Japanese and Western RPGs, where they inevitably always fall in line with dumb story with bare-bones mechanics Vs. freedom and innovation. And don't try and tell me that this game was so revolutionary for the time. No, it wasn't. For starters, you can see better open worlds in Fallout or Ultima.

>>7041853
Masterpiece, and there's nothing else like it

>>7041961
GTA III isn't even half as good as Shenmue. It feels fun at first and then quickly becomes tedious. It has no heart. The series' soundtracks account for almost all of its thin mostly-unlikable personality

Both.

No, really.

>>7042031
So based. The only reason I check for any retro gta is just for the soundtrack. I'll put it on Vice City OST and call it a wrap. https://youtu.be/jNKeeJdv3u0

Used to bee a good tech demo and today they make money with shenmue, because idiots feel nostalgic.

I wanted to play Shenmue so bad when I was a kid. I was very disappointed after I played Shenmue 1 and 2 on PS4...

shenmue is just yakuza but bad

>>7041961
i don't understand why does it have to be such an issue and point of contention regarding linear and open world design. both are fine, i don't play fucking NES mario and think it would be improved by letting me talk with a goomba in a dense dialogue and convince him to commit sudoku then backtrack to his house and convince his wife i'm his creditor and he needs to pay up
and really the only reason this always comes up with shenmue is that they decided to market it as open world, but really that's stretching the definition of the term near the breaking point
you can definitely set your own pace of playing and slow down and do a lot of side stuff but the areas of play are all so tiny and not really branching at all that you're just really stretching it, and you hardly have any liberty to traverse anything, the game locks and unlocks you in various regions as you traverse through the narrative, you don't really have a choice to free roam between all these areas.
but the bottom line is, who cares, it's a good semi-linear, semi-open game, call it whatever you want but it's just a fun exploration/detective game. if you controller the character with a mouse it would fit the point and click genre like a glove
the game isn't trying to be fallout or baldur's gate, it's such a pointless point of comparison

That cover art is beautiful, I love whatever that aesthetic can be described as

>>7042152
yakuza is shenmue but reddit

>>7042197
it's called the floating cg heads aesthetic

>>7042197
shitty turd world album cover

>>7042031
Once you explored the map and stole all the cars it does get boring ,I didn’t really like doing the missions

>>7041853
back when I would play and beat every game I owned no matter how bad, I still couldn't play this game for more than 30 minutes without getting bored

>>7041853
Good game, but has a boring part at the end.

Shenmue 1 is great. Shenmue 2 is bad, but it has better girls. (No Tom though.)

>Wanna play some Lucky Hit?
>How about a game of Lucky Hit?
>Hey, try Lucky Hit

I beat my meat to this girl back in the day...

>>7045074
t. Pedo

>>7042639

You literally have no soul.

>>7045898
You think I want to walk through the woods talking for a long time just to get to that one girl's house? The game ended on a cliffhanger and I had to wait nearly 20 years to play Shenmue 3.

>>7041853
>Good game
Telltale Games tier gameplay
>boring dogshit?
It's boring if you're not a weeb. If you are a weeb, the Asian theme will probably hold your interest.

>>7045863
If an 11 year old boy masturbates to a 12 year old girl, is he a pedo?

>>7041853
Good game, slow burn, not for everyone. It was more of a walking simulator, which nobody today really gets. The idea was that you could walk around and discover every little thing and talk to every character, which is a big part of hunting for clues. It was more of a visual spectacle, which doesn't hold up to modern games. Zoomers don't get why you would just want to hang out around a city and check out everything. They are probably secretly happy COVID happened so they don't have to go outside.

I enjoy exploring in 1 more. I like the fights in 2 more.

>>7042203
based

>>7041853
>>7041853
Boring Dogshit the new one proved it was never good

>>7041853
I'm replaying Shenme 1 and 2 on the Steam re-release and... holy shit, did these games age badly. Don't get me wrong, I loved them and I still do, but there are some glaring gameplay, and interface elements that not only aged badly, but also one wonders how they were acceptable on their day to begin with.
Walking, for example, is the most obnoxious thing, I can't comrpehend how in the age when analog controls were getting popular, we get some pseudo-tank controls with the d-pad that makes turning around or opening a door absurdly tedious. Talking is really annoying too, those long pauses, or even those conversations that stop in the middle for no real reason and you have to "talk" again to go on...
What about in Shenmue 2, when you enter Xiuying's after 7PM and you automatically get that cross menu with the option to sleep and save with no promt? I go that while pressing up because I was... moving forward. Wanted to save? tough luck, now you have to do the entire dumb book pile minigame before you are able to save again. And this goes for every time the game decides to lock you out of exploration with no reason by doing unexpected time skips or Ryo deciding to do the next thing by his "own will". Most glaring example is the last day of Shenmue 1, where a lot of shit happens, you barely have any chance to do anything else inbetween, and at the end Ryo decides to take the ship to Hong Kong. Guess this is the game's concept of immersion, since you really have no choice to wait there, you're supposedly in a hurry.
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>>7041853
>>7048181
I think about how these games were the most expensive to be produced when they were released, and I wonder where did all that money go. The content is very lacking, especially in Shenmue 1, the entire game takes place in Ryo's house, three fucking streets and a harbor. I guess it was more important to model a hundred shops that are completely irrelevant, or to make every single NPC have voice acted lines giving you directions to every relevant place in the story.
Not to mention the obscure shit you have to do to get some of the cool stuff, which also happens to be permanently missable. For example in Fangmei's birthday side story, I've been following a guide to do it properly but now I'm in spot where I have to wait a fucking month for her birthday. What should I do? Do the chawan sign every day to make time go faster? spend like 30+ hours doing anything but progressing in the story?
And don't even talk about fighting, for a game that's supposedly about fighting, you actually fight too little, you spend most of the time practicing in empty parks or sparring with friends. Yakuza improved this by letting you fight every now and then with random mooks, and getting money and experience in the process.
Worst of all, is how Shenmue 3, a game released almost 20 years later, not only didn't improve any of this, but somehow made it even worse. My only hope as of now is that Sega regains confidence in the projects and lets RGG studio work on the series, and while we're at that, remake 1, 2 and 3.

>>7041896
Fair

>>7046912
Asking the important questions here, anon

>>7045863
>>7046912
>>7049195
I was 15 back in 2001, IIRC that chick was 16 yr in game, so no, not pedo.

>>7049951
no, 15 year old boys must lust after 45 year old white single moms! not asian teens! or else they are pathetic small dick loser incel beta males