/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7021610
>perfec [awkward pause] tion...
ftfy

>>7021629
Eh, the seconds of load screen before matches are still less than the loading times on the CD ports.
In relation to the hardware, this was a better port than the PS1 port, since it includes the actual intro cutscene made entirely with sprites, like the arcade or Saturn version (PS1 has the grainy FMV)

>>7021610
Make an improvement hack that removes the load times, and true. also "SSFII Turbo" hacks for SNES and Gen adding Akuma and all that good shit would be amazing as well

>>7021634
PS1 also has Alpha 2 Gold which has the full sprite based intro.

Does anyone know why there were load times? Was it having to decompress assets before each round or what?

>>7022526
Yep.

Back in the day, SFA2 on SNES was a treat. It was decidedly inferior next to more faithful ports on more powerful hardware, but for those of us who hadn't yet moved on (and loved SFA2), this was amazing. I obviously prefer the arcade versions, but I have a special fondness for this particular port.

>>7022526
>Does anyone know why there were load times? Was it having to decompress assets before each round or what?

Street Fighter Alpha 2 on the SNES uses a custom processor in the cartridge called the "S-DD1". Which is a processor that can decompress a lossless compression algorithm that was used to store the gamefiles in ROM. So, there are pauses to decompress data.

>>7021610
>>7021629
>>7021634
Since I main charge characters, that pause ruins it for me. Typically on all other formats, a player could charge while the announcer is declaring the round, and instantly after "fight" I should be able to unleash a charge attack, but due to that pause, it reduces my options at that moment of every round. That load time ruins the balance for me.

>>7021610
More like disappointment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CEbZf1rPck

>>7021610
Comfy port imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzPqYXEB0NU

>>7023027
>noooo why can't I abuse a glitch anymore it's no faaiiiiirrrr
Get fucked cheater.

There was a SNES version of SFA1 too, right?

>>7023704
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xrne2-gOoqU

>>7023704
No, they skipped right to the good one

>>7023571
It's not a glitch. Ever since the original Street Fighter 2 World Warrior, a player can charge at that time. In the Super Nintendo Alpha 2, the loading pause prior to the announcer saying "fight" nullifies the charge.

Take for instance Ryu/Ken/Gouki vs. Nash/Guile: when the announcer yells "fight" Ryu/Ken/Gouki has all their moves available, while Nash/Guile is left without their only 2 special attacks. So, for instance, if the already top tier shotos throw a fireball to start, Nash/Guile has only guard or vertical jump as the best options. The Ryu/Ken/Gouki player will always have first move advantage in the SNES version, gaining position, meter, and possibly a life advantage. While in all other versions, the instant sonic boom will cancel out the hadouken and Nash/Guile will recover first to make Ryu/Ken/Gouki eat a heavy backfist or lunging heavy kick and at best maybe trade with a light attack. In the non-SNES Alpha 2 it is fair because there are options to both players.

Ryu/Ken/Gouki are already top tier in Alpha2, they don't need any new advantages. That is why Alpha2Gold is received so poorly and players tend to flock to the original Alpha2: Capcom buffed the top tier and nerfed everyone else.

>>7026217
Serious players won't play on anything less than the arcade hardware anyway, so why even bothering complaining about the SNES port?

>>7021610
perfection...

>>7026306
Just saying that it is a shame the awkward location of the load time does add in a new layer of unnecessary nerf to my mains. It plays alright, I've even played the emulated SNES port online against randoms and had fun, but unlike most other fighting games on the SNES, it has weird loading segments that mess with the flow.

>>7026327
Can you do VS with the same characters in this port? It was released after Champion Edition so it would be weird if they hadn't included it

>>7021610
Jesus Christ Akuma looks like a fucking orc in that art

>>7026430
Down, R, Up, L, Y, B when the Capcom logo appears at startup.

>>7026432
His japan name is gouki which means ogre in japanese

>>7026432
The chest tumors really throw it off

>>7027845
NERRRRDS

>>7026432
>>7027845
I always wonder how Akuma gets around looking and acting the way he does, since Street Fighter is set in modern times after all. What does he eat? Does he go to the grocery store? Does he even have any money? How does he travel the world to fight people in all these different countries, does he have a passport? Would anyone in their right mind let this guy into a plane? Or does he just Ashura Senku over the ocean?
Ryu may be a weird hobo but at least he looks like a normal human, probably has his documents and a change of clothes in his little travel bag and likely makes money off random fighting tournaments and/or Ken pays for some of his shit.

>>7023571
>glitch

lmao, it's how it's meant to work, otherwise they would've patched it out of arcade versions decades ago. You can still do it to this day in SFV.

>>7026362
What's the one in the middle with the cute not-Sakura on the cover?

>>7028194
You're just being retarded and overthinking things.

>>7028194
Akuma probably just fireballs random squirrels and deers to death and eats their carcasses when he's out training. Idk how he flies around, but I think in canon Ken does pay for a lot of Ryu's needs since Ken is rich AF.

>>7028194
you never looked at the gallery in alpha 2 on saturn i see

>>7028194
Akuma lived alone on a small island (Alpha 2) and later a cave (Alpha 3); I assume his 3rd Strike stage, also a cave, represents where he lives too. I always assumed he lived off the land and was "off the grid," like how a lot of old karate masters are portrayed. As for getting around the world, the simplest explanation is that World Warrior tournaments pay for the private transportation of its participants--I don't think that holds up well to scrutiny, but I also don't think anyone at Capcom gave it any closer thought.

>>7023035
Hey, watch re cover of SS A2 SNES music.

Same here. This game was a favorite among my group of friends. None of us had a PS1 or Saturn, so the SNES version was all we had and we loved it.

It's really impressive what companies could pull off by squeezing everything they could out of the SNES.

Hold on lemme fix that

>>7028779
Thanks

>>7028779
Excellent advancements in gameplay. Too bad about that awful soundtrack and cookiecutter character endings.

>>7028194
He sells fruit. He's a drifter like Ryu and is only interesting in finding worthy opponents to battle. He's different from Ryu in that his motivations are suicidal. It's also implied he's only really interested in hurting/killing people who he fights or deems worthy.

>>7029971
I think it's a misunderstanding that anyone who succumbs to the killing intent automatically becomes "chaotic evil".
Oni is a little different:
>Oni has discarded his remaining humanity (saying that it is of no use to "evil incarnate"), his identity as Akuma, and his prominent moral code as a warrior; he will fight anyone to the death, regardless of condition, rather than seeking out worthy opponents to fight in a fair match. His presence is such that certain characters even refer to him as a god in their win quotes.

>>7026327
Genesis special champion edition is better than any sf2 port on the snes, it's more accurate and has cps1 chains

>>7030403
It also looks and sounds kind of like shit. I was happy we got it back in the day but still

>>7030458
there's at least 3 color patches + an audio driver patch.

tough pyron went reddit on the new patch.

>>7021610
werent they originally made the original Alpha1 to be ported to the snes in mind?

>>7029971
Where does he get the fruit?

>>7028194
He's a regular dude. I don't remember if it was the cartoon or the comic book, but he was seen in the background on a restaurant on date with a woman.

>>7030996
I need to see an image of this. I can't imagine Akuma being interested in women.

>>7031045
I found this. You can see it @0:56

https://youtu.be/uhyXXhauoO8

>>7030914
He grows it, like pretty much any small fruit vendor

>>7030914
picks(steals) it. I used to do it as a kid.

>>7030996
>>7031045
Just because it appears in an anime that take generous liberties with the entire franchise doesn't mean it's "canon." Although even it was, his portrayal here--just popping up with entirely different groups of people in different situations around the world, all while wearing the same dirty gi--doesn't strike me as "regular dude." Even Ryu wore street clothes in this.

I haven't paid much attention to the past decade or so of SF games, but it always seemed to me like the drive to fight completely supplanted the drive to have sex. SF games are like late-night Cinemax for fightersexuals. "Hey dude, weird mohawk!" "Whatever punk" [immediately engages in fight]

>>7031102
Akuma has a higher moral code than kid you did.

>>7031141
It's highly unlikely he grows it since he's a drifter

>>7031157
I think he stays put for a while before moving on. A drifter is never said to "have" an island as their home.

>>7031093
>everyone in fancy ballroom attire
>Akuma sitting in his raggy old gi

lmao this guy

>>7030996
>>7031093
This is really fucking hilarious for some reason