/vr/ - Retro Games

I bought the hd remaster on steam and it runs like shit, why was I born in fucking Argentina

>>7003843
Of course not, it's a great game, and on Professional is one of the most challenging titles in the series.

>>7003852
>and on Professional is one of the most challenging titles in the series.
Is it really? I've only played the series on normal really, isn't stuff like RE1 invisible enemies harder?

>>7003873
>Is it really?
Yes. One of the hallmarks of the classic REs is that an optimized run has you skipping nearly everything, which lets you hoard up top-tier ammo to effortlessly annihilate any bosses or unskippable enemies. No resource management required.
>I've only played the series on normal really
Give it a try. 4 and 5 on Pro, and 7 on Madhouse are fantastic.
>isn't stuff like RE1 invisible enemies harder?
Not necessarily, as the mode isn't reasonably playable if you haven't already memorized enemy placement, and if you have, little changes. It's a gimmick mode.

>look mom I made another RE4 thread!

>>7003843
>contrarian points
How are we feeling today? Are we taking our meds?

>>7003843
No one's pretending. This game really does suck.

>>7004569
Name three resident evils that are better.

>>7004582
All RE games suck. Shit gameplay.

>>7004582
Resident Evil 1, Resident Evil 2 and REmake.

>>7004612
>metacritic 91
>metacritic 89
>metacritic 91
Nope, not better. RE4 got a 96, would you like to try again?

>>7004625
If Barbie Horse Adventure for the 'cube got 98 on Metacritic, would you actually use MC as a reliable way to see a game's worth and use that score to compare it to others, instead of providing valid arguments as to why a game is good instead of a simple 1 to 100 score?

>>7003843
>You don't do this right anon?
No I don't have to pretend, I genuinely hate the game.

>>7004625
>normiecritic rates RE4 the highest
so it's objectively the worst then

>>7004625
>using metacritic to judge the quality of a game

>>7004636
>If Barbie Horse Adventure for the 'cube got 98 on Metacritic, would you actually use MC as a reliable way to see a game's worth and use that score to compare it to others
Absolutely, yes. There isn't a single game that has been rated that highly that is anything short of excellent. I'm curious if you're capable of challenging that assertion without resorting to low-effort contrarianism like: >>7004639

>>7004640
Yes. Studios live and die based on metacritic scores, meanwhile, absolutely nothing hinges on your opinions, rendering them objectively worthless. Sad!

>>7004625
>using metacritic
LOL That's a useless website that rates high scores for games that are as bad as Barbie Horse Adventure, as this anon pointed out ----> >>7004636

>>7004809
Care to provide some specific examples? Barbie's Horse Adventure received a 52, by the way, so I'm genuinely perplexed as to why you "both" chose such a bizarre hill to die on.

>>7004625
Metacritic isn't reliable. MK11 sucks and yet it has a score of 82.

>>7004834
--------> >>7004854

I’ve played it several times. It’s a quality game but not the sort I ever found myself chomping at the bit to get more out of.

>>7004854
82 is a meh score

>>7003843
I mean, I don't hate it, but I only played through it once and haven't wanted to go back, where as I've played through the earlier games multiple times. It's too long to not have a level select. I'd rather play RE 5 since it has that and is much shorter. Most of 4 kinda feels like filler.

>>7004863
The original claim was that Metacritic was handing out 98s to shit games. An 82 for a generally well-received game isn't even in the same universe as a 98. If your next post doesn't contain a specific example of a shit game being given a 98, I'll take that as you conceding the argument. I don't want damage control, I don't want excuses, I want to see those erroneous 98s. This is your last chance.

>>7004882
>well-received
By whom? The critics? LOL It certainly wasn't the fans.

>>7003843
>endless re4 spam

>>7004889
blame the guy going into every thread and even unreleated ones to shit on it and post weird tranny memes on people for no reason. I even say him doing it in a thread where people were listing the top 10 games they'd play if they could only play 10 games ever

>>7004834
Not him but Diablo II LOD, an absolute classic, has an 87, while the clustefuck that wast Diablo III at release got 88%. The only correct thing is that the 1996 original got a 96%, since it's a top 10 game of all time.

It also has New Vegas beneath Fallout 4.

Persona 4 is below 5. Also fuck you mods for deleting my Persona 4 thread, it was originally on PS2.

>>7004927
>Persona 4 is below 5
That's right though

>>7004950
Pardon me for having an opinion, but i think P3, 4, and 5 are of equal value in their own rights

>>7004927
>Diablo II LOD, an absolute classic, has an 87
Sounds about right. If anything, I think that's a bit generous of a score when you consider how the average person will engage with it, and this is coming from someone who easily has thousands of hours in LoD. Removing my personal bias towards it and analyzing the game objectively, I'd be hard pressed to give it more than an 80.
>while the clustefuck that wast Diablo III at release got 88%
D3 is a much better game for those who are going to pick it up, play it for a while, and then be done with it, which is how almost everyone interacts with vidya.

>>7004889
>>7004910

>>7004889
>>7004910
>>7005039
>Samefagging
KWAB

>>7005054
>projecting

>>7005054
why dont you go accuse people of samefagging in one of the other 3 or 4 re4 threads

>>7005059
>>7005060
>edited in MS Paint
Okay samefag.

testoooooooooooo

>>7004625
Dude if you are gonna use Metacritic at least consider the user score, that's the only one worth something.

Reviewers are all bought specially in games from big companies, can't be trusted.

>>7005075
schizo

>>7005089
>that's the only one worth something
Do you really believe that? If so, first off, that still means RE4 is tied for the best game. Second, If a publisher pulls some typical jewish tricks on game (A), suddenly games (B), (C) and (D) that they've published get review bombed, so these games that were loved by all with 9.X user scores suddenly get knocked down to a ~2 because of some shit that isn't related to those games in any way outside of the fact that they share a publisher with game (A).

Critic scores are a far more reliable indicator of quality, especially when user scores are often "i like thing : 10/10" or "i dislike thing : 1/10".

>>7005130
>Do you really believe that?
Not that anon, but I believe people with no financial incentives are going to be more honest than people who's livelihoods are tied with continuing to get review copies before the official release of a game.

>>7005130
>Do you really believe that? If so, first off, that still means RE4 is tied for the best game
I think RE4 is a great game, so no argument there.
> get review bombed
This is cope from people who can't accept the game is shit, are you one of those faggots who think TLOU2 is good? Name one example of what you say.
>Critic scores are a far more reliable indicator of quality
Critics are bought, games from big companies always have high scores, thats why Call of Duty and FIFA get 10/10 every year even if they are generic uninspired copy/pasted games.
>especially when user scores are often "i like thing : 10/10" or "i dislike thing : 1/10".
So don't read those. Read the ones with actual arguments.

Metacritic is shit and user opinions are not the final word since many users are idiots, but critic opinions are absolutely worthless, Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 is NOT the 2nd best game of all time.

>>7005125
Yes, you certainly are.

>>7005130
You're a fucking idiot. Trusting a critic score over a user score is retarded as fuck. For example Dave Chappelle: Sticks & Stones got a 35% rotten score from critics and yet it has 99% from the audience score. Which should tell you that the majority of people like Dave Chappelle: Sticks & Stones. Critics opinions are fucking worthless.

>>7005316
Imagine being so brain dead to trust either in 2020

>>7006269
False. You're only braindead if you trust the critic score instead of the audience score. There are movie companies that went out of business because they decided to go woke instead of listening to the fans.

>>7006486
You're delusional if you're pretending that review bombing isn't a thing and that it's not often done for things completely unrelated to the actual quality of the game in question. There's legit no way to defend it since it's done for everything ranging from console wars, political shit flinging and stupid social media drama and it often affects unrelated games since people bomb whole companies with it.

Trusting EITHER score shows that you have brain damage and there's legit no way to defend that.

>>7006486
>because they decided to go woke instead of listening to the fans.
Could have just made it clear that you're a larping /pol/fag that doesn't actually play games.

RE2 and 3 are the best RE games. Re4 ruined the franchise. RE4 stopped being about survival horror, ambience, soundtrack and immersion, and is now a fucking retarded action game series.

There's a reason 5/6/7 are all blatant knockoffs of 4. 4 was a great, fun, playable and replayable game, but it killed what made the franchise great. I'm replaying RE2 as we speak.

>>7003847
don't worry hermano soon you're moving to urugay.

>>7006584
>RE4 stopped being about survival horror, ambience, soundtrack and immersion, and is now a fucking retarded action game series
If that's really how you feel, surely you'd blame 3 for starting that trend.
>here's a reason 5/6/7 are all blatant knockoffs of 4
>7
>blatant knockoff of 4
What did he mean by this???

>>7003843
Yes I do because it's funny how easily this game triggers both sides. I had 2 subject only bait threads both praising and trashing this game up for the last week. Shit gets so many (you)s. With the /v/ transplants discussion on this board has gone to the toilet and this game is the absolute pinnacle of how fucking shit things have gotten. It's funnier to just watch it burn.

>>7003852
Professional isn't hard at all, though.

>>7006743
By that standard, no game is hard, they're all toys designed for children, git gud, etc.

>>7006746
>By that standard, no game is hard
No. There are many games much much harder than RE4 on professional difficulty. The hardest part of RE4 was trying to topscore in the mercenaries modes with all the characters and even that wasn't insanely difficult, but pro difficulty was piss easy. Just shoot one cultist in the face and you have 50/50 chance of either instant killing them or having an AOE round house kick. Not sure if bait or if you're legit shit at games.

>>7006753
>There are many games much much harder than RE4 on professional difficulty
Re-read the original post you replied to, very carefully. Now re-read it again. Good? Okay, now address the original point and name a few RE games that are harder than RE4 on Professional.

>>7006757
REMake, Outbreak, Zero, RE2, RE2 Remake, Code Veronica. RE4 Pro is trivial.

>>7006781
>RE2 REmake
I'll accept this one on Hardcore. The rest are trivial by comparison with the caveat that outbreak is a broken game from a balance standpoint.

>>7006757
>Re-read the original post you replied to, very carefully. Now re-read it again. Good?
I said many games because in your retarded ass response you said "By that standard, no game is hard, they're all toys designed for children, git gud, etc." which is phrased in a way that it applies to all games not RE games.

>name a few RE games that are harder than RE4 on Professional.
Directors Cut for sure. Idk what the fuck they did to that version. I played 0, 1's DS port ,2, REmake, 5 once, Code Veronica and Outbreak partially, and RE4 multiple times. None of them gave me issues but Directors Cut has some serious balance problems. I played RE:DS and REmake BEFORE I played Directors Cut so I had an idea of what to expect and the game still kicked my ass. I honestly put off the 3, finishing Code Veronica and Outbreak because of my experience with Directors Cut.

Even that aside I find the older RE's way harder just because the movement is more restrictive, you can't control your aim, you don't have health/ammo/freakin grenade drops and you don't have a "Shoot guy in face and nuke the whole wave by pressing A" ability. Harder doesn't mean better but you seem totally invested in want RE4 to be the absolute hardest game ever when it could not be further from the truth.

>>7006793
Imagine having problems with those trivial games.

>>7006802
I see. It's going to divulge into 1-line shitposting because you have no counter to the fact 1 handgun bullet and a melee-ranged A-press clears entire waves of enemies who also spawn health, ammo and fucking grenades. Who could've possibly seen this coming?

>>7006820
I'll give you a detailed write-up on why you're wrong there (and probably have never beaten 4 on professional) when you explain how simply memorizing enemy locations and breezing past them is harder than engaging in forced combat.

>>7006529
>review bombing
Is the excuse Social Justice Warriors use when their favorite movie gets unfavorable reviews. I bet you think Captain Marvel is a good movie, even though everybody knows it sucks.

>>7006537
>larping
I don't do that crap.

>/pol/
I don't post there.

>fag
Is what you are, Woke-Cuck.

>>7005316
>For example Dave Chappelle: Sticks & Stones got a 35% rotten score
I think that's a very accurate score. The moment Chapelle lost his shit and had a mental breakdown because a white guy was laughing "too hard" at one of his skits and then dropped off the radar for years, his mainstream appeal was gone. He's back today with this bizarre black panther style of wokeness, with the anti-white, anti-establishment, black supremacy angle, which just doesn't land for most audiences. It's incompatible with the modern woke niche of the comedy scene, because he also feels the need to punch down when it comes to their protected classes, and center/right whites really aren't the target demographic for his new "black muslim brimming with racial hatred talks down to whites" style of "comedy". That's not a great recipe for mainstream success, which critic scores are a measure of. All that leaves are the blacks, and CIS mestizos, so that's about right for a 35% rating.

>>7006793
The non directors cut release of resident evil in the US is actually harder than directors cut,directors cut has the original japanese difficulty but the original release got an increased difficulty where enemy takes more damage and you get less ink ribbon.

>>7003843
It's shit. Haven't played it btw.

>>7006907
>considering any critic score to be "accurate"
You must love the 2016 Ghostbusters movie.

>>7006964
It has a 60 on Metacritic, which is a D-, one point from an F. I wouldn't exactly call that a ringing endorsement from critics, would you?

>>7006892
>reviewing bombing doesn't exist!
Okay, you're an idiot.

>>7007070
He's just shitposting. It's incredibly easy to see review bombs with steam review analytics.

>>7003843
i wish the steam version wasn't all fucked up. the controls are so fucked its worth a refund. the fact that this release too is different from the ubisoft one means an entire era of mods for the game that gave it plenty of further replay value are gone/unuseable. capcom is a nigger.

>>7007192
Are you talking about the HD re-release, that features proper controls, or the original, highly broken port where the mouse emulates a joystick?

Aresident Evil 4 sucks shit.

>>7006757
Are you kidding me?
>shoot and melee 10-20 ganados
>pick up the health and ammo they drop
>move to next checkpoint
4 is one of the easiest, even on professional

>>7006831
Be honest, did you look up what to do and where to go when you played them? I know a lot of your people your age have been conditioned to immediately grabtheir phone when they get stuck without actually thinking for themselves.

>>7007249
>zoomer larper doesn't know the 90s were the age of the strategy guide and tipline
lol

>>7004625
>"prove RE4 is better than 1, 2, and the remake"
>uses popular appeal/appeal to authority fallacies
Try again

OP is a deeply insecure, conformist faggit with no taste, or thought of his own. And this is how this started... Another OP claimed that RE4 is a bad entry in the franchise. That by the way is the general, accepted consensus among old-school RE fans. The game was highly controversial even when it first came out. Anyway, OPs feelings were deeply hurt. Now he is stuck in the shit postin loop again. To help OP get better just agree with him. Tell him how much of a masterpiece Resident Evil 4 really was. Also tell him you are genuinely sorry in not recognizing OPs vast genius earlier. After OP will go back to his usual Saturn bashing threads. And we all will have peace again.

>>7007382
Take your meds, aussie-kun.

>>7007382
The irony is that this is about you, the anti-RE4 guy right?

>>7007394
Like... I am the only person in the world who dislikes Aresident Evil? There is probably another person. But he likes it. lmao

>>7007408
Anon, you're so obvious it's not even funny. Same tier as the anti-mother 3 dude

>>7007410
Damn. Caught again =(

>>7007251
He did lmao

One of the best video games ever made, tied with REmake for best RE games.
I must be on my 10th playthough by now. Love every second of it, the village, the castle, the island, everything.

>>7006969
It has a 74% on Rotten Tomatoes. Still higher than Dave Chappelle's Stick and Stones score on RT.

>>7007070
>>7007181
>Pretending that review bombs exist
If we were to go by that logic, then any positive reviews left for RE4 was added by a few nuRE fans(via creating multiple fake accounts) who wants a positive score for RE4, despite how badly it sucks. No one has the time and energy to do that. You would have to be an idiot to think so.

>>7007212
It sure does.

>>7007382
I agree.

>>7007408
You're not the only person who hates RE4. Unless you're just larping as an RE4 hater, as the last part of your post suggest.

>>7008115
>It has a 74% on Rotten Tomatoes.
That's because Rotten Tomatoes uses a binary scoring system with reviews. A 60 from a critic is treated the same as a 100. Metacritic, which is what we're specifically discussing, uses a granular scoring system, a 60 is a 60, and a 100 is a 100.
>Still higher than Dave Chappelle's Stick and Stones score on RT
I've explained in detail why this is. His new specials have very niche appeal, far less, even, than pozzbusters.

>>7008184
Or maybe you just don't want to admit that the critic score is unreliable and that the audience score is way more credible. I've enjoyed Dave Chappelle's Stick & Stones. Ghostbusters 2016 was a complete trainwreck. Even the movie "Cuties" has a high score of 86% and yet the audience score for that movie is 15% because they know how shitty that movie is, especially since that movie only appeals to pedophiles.

>>7008196
>Or maybe you just don't want to admit that the critic score is unreliable and that the audience score is way more credible
If that was the case, studios wouldn't award bonuses based on metacritic (they do), they would award bonuses based on user score (they don't). Movies and games wouldn't proudly display review blurbs on their covers from critics (they do), they would display blurbs from XxX420PoleSmokerXxX (they don't).
>I've enjoyed Dave Chappelle's Stick & Stones. Ghostbusters 2016 was a complete trainwreck.
That would be your opinion, yes.
>Even the movie "Cuties" has a high score of 86% and yet the audience score for that movie is 15% because they know how shitty that movie is
Every critic watched the movie. What percent of people rating it a 1 on metacritic do you think actually sat down and watched the movie? I want you to consider your answer very carefully, because anything short of "100% of them" invalidates your previous claim that review bombing doesn't exist, and as you're reading this, I think you've realizing that you've backed yourself into a corner. Let's see how intellectually honest you are.

>>7008230
Studios awarding critics for giving it a "good review" doesn't guarantee box office success. Superman Returns and Ghostbusters 2016's failure at the box office are a prime example of this. The audiences knew those movies were shit.

>>7008258
Way to dodge every single point, including the key question you insufferable, dishonest faggot. This is your last (You).

>>7003873
Code Veronica is harder than 4 on professional mainly due to game design flaws and RE1 remake is harder in general while being balanced

>>7003843
there's no such thing as a worthwhile game that contains "press x to not die." westernized trash that reviewed well in the west because it's been westernized. you can enjoy it, sure, but don't call it a masterpiece.

>>7004596
imagine being this retarded

>>7004625
>metacritic
>>>/v/

>7008274
>Caring about (you's)
>getting triggered by the truth I posted
lol

Euro PC are garbage.

>>7008371
rent free.

Amiga sucks

>>7008476
>owning two versions of the same game.
You're gay, aren't you?

>2-3 RE4 bait threads stay up
>MGS bait threads get pulled
The Jannies don't care until you shit on their cringe movie.

>>7010396
Seethe and cope, thief shmup trannie!

>>7010396
>Thinking that any of the RE4 threads are "bait threads".
lol

Bravo to the jannies for getting rid of the real bait threads.

>>7011025
Hi nigger with cool taste, long time no see

>>7011025
>Why the fuck would he feel the need to post his hand, why do negros and women do this? Why not just post the picture of the games?

>>7011025
Why is there a turd next to both your copies of Areal Turd? Oh wait...

>>7004596
So wqhy the fuck did you clikc on this thread you absoulte fucking retard?

>>7011341
>baited and triggered

>>7012448