/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
500ml of /vr/ (for Blood)
Deadline: November 10th
Rules: >>6980587
MAPEDIT: https://archive.org/details/BloodMapedit
Discord: https://discord.gg/NfFP9Pu

=== NEWS ===
[10-14] RealRTCW 3.1 released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/realrtcw-realism-mod/news/realrtcw-31-now-available

[10-12]LZDoom has been updated to 3.87. Features the ability to use original Doom RNG tables and other compatibility fixes.
https://devbuilds.drdteam.org/lzdoom/

[10-12] JP Le Breton Releases Works of the Master(More info below)
https://jp.itch.io/deluxe-master-levels

[10-12]Heretical Doom v1.5 has been released!
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=56762

[10-12]Arcane Dimensions 1.80 is finally out!
http://www.simonoc.com/pages/design/sp/ad.htm

[10-11]Retroquad 0.1.0 is out - a Q1 engine with state-of-the-art 8-bit renderer. Dev in dire trouble.
https://mankrip.tumblr.com/post/631533857388314624

[10-8] Megaman 8BDM v6 trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTK1Y49gPnk

[10-8] The Hellevator (Boom Speedmapping) - mappers wanted
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/117072

[10-7] DN3DooM v1.06b released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/dn3doom/news/dn3doom-v1-06

[10-7] Raytracing progress on Q1, Q3, Hexen2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlvORaYcLiY

[10-7] Thy Flesh Consumed UV-Speed in 2:59 by Zero-Master
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaZrlSgzTC4

[10-6] Doom Eternal enemy sprites coming soon to classic Doom
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=70131#p1168102

[10-5] Raven Keep for Q1 released
https://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61953

[10-4] Anons hacks Vanilla Doom with Infinite possibilities!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XId_kyCx3xw

[10-2] Quakewulf releases Reservoir Stroggs for Quake II
http://quakeulf.suxos.org/3d/maps/prepare.zip

[10-1] DWELL: 10 map episode for Q1 was released
https://www.quaddicted.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=781

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I sniff my own farts

>>6994901
Hi graf.

Finally watched Romero's Sigil video. It's like a cute little home movie he and his wife put together.

>>6994917
Can you link it?

>>6994924
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYnB_feVTbs

I'm trying to play Quake's mission packs but suddenly I can't start new games anymore, any reasons why?

Retro FPS Dating Sim, when?

>>6994931
never had this, but seems to be a QSS-specific thing. just type "map start" in console.

>>6994951
Sounds gay.

>>6994960
Doesn't work, but enter not working seems to be a Spiked only issue so I'll just use normal Quakespasm.

>>6994863
based newspost anon

has anyone played this? it was supposed to be the third wad on final doom

>>6994986
Пpикoлиcь, пeльмeнь, oн cкaзaл "пepдит"!

>>6994986
First I've heard of this. Looks interesting.

>>6994986
Which wad to use?

>>6994989
what
>>6995015
here's a download
http://www.mustaine.com/about/video-game-work/perditions-gate/
>>6995027
PG-RAW-X, I think you'll also have to get this https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=36105 if you're gonna use a zdoom port

>>6995027
PG-RAW and PG-RAW-X are identical, except for the ENDDOOM screen. Just use PG-RAW

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/117180-what-the-difference-between-pg-rawwad-and-pg-raw-xwad/

>>6995032
>>6995034
Thanks, I'll probably make my own patch for the map names using BEX if need be.

Also, for anyone wanting the sister wad: https://www.moddb.com/games/doom-ii/addons/hell2pay

This is basically a half official/unofficial Final Doom 2 right?

>>6995040
only PG, HTP wasnt related to Final Doom

>>6994863
I really hope that one day, someone remodels all of quake 2's weapons to be more accurate with the pickup models.

Chaingun being a pair of flying tubes is funny, the railgun the same, also the Shotgun being cut in half

>>6995059
But it was related to PG, so it's a distant relative I suppose. Either way, more megawads sounds good to me.

>>6995032
>what
"Perdit" is "farts" (third-person verb) in Russian.

>>6994986
It was offered to iD Software as an additional megawad for the Final Doom deal, but Jay Wilbur told them "the window of opportunity had closed", so they probably never even looked at it. It wasn't finished by then, so I doubt they could have gotten it finished in time.

I'd almost say, good riddance, because I've never been blueballed so hard by a megawad before. Plutonia puts the thumbscrews on you, and even TNT gives it a good shot, but Perdition's Gate was underwhelming as hell in combat (which I wouldn't mind if it didn't tell me that it was supposed to be super difficult), and for that matter in general level design and concept. You start playing it, and it gives you some impressions that it's going to go to novel and interesting places, but then it pretty much never does, you see glimpses of it, but it's abandoned as soon as you see it. About half of the 32 levels are completely fucking boring and don't need to exist, they're *extremely* bland cookie cutters shoveled into the .wad when Wraith Co bought the rights to it after iD turned it down.

Perhaps if iD had accepted, and the .wad got worked on by some of the Team TNT people instead (mind, Dario and Milo were busy as fuck making Plutonia), perhaps something decent could have come out of it. I can't say I outright hate Perdition's Gate, because it has a bunch of glimmers of some really cool stuff, but at the same time I can never really recommend it either. People say that TNT Evilution has a weak third cour, and it does, but Perdition's Gate just plains gives the fuck up harder than any megawad I've ever seen.

>>6994712
According to Doom Eternal, its the same marine in 1, 2, 64, 2016 and Eternal
>>6994678
It's a fan name, not sure where it first saw usage but if I had to guess it was probably on Usenet and IRC is the very early days. Romero used to always say in interviews then that "The marine is YOU" and that is why he wasn't given a specific name but he also wasn't calling him Doom Guy himself yet, he would just always say its you.

>>6995091
Cam we blame Jay Wilbur for opening the doors for Timmy being hired into id because of master levels being somewhat a quick buck?

>>6995095
I mean if you have Doom Guy be synonymous with player character then it's the same thing. His name isn't literally Doom Guy, that's a merely a stand in. Name him whatever you want, like your deathmatch username for example. Don't name him? Well, then he's the Doom Guy.

>>6995095
>According to Doom Eternal
Doom Eternal is not cannon with the classic Doom games.

>>6995098
Perhaps. Mind, Jay Wilbur is currently leading marketing and sales at Epic Games, make your conclusions about that as you will.

Is there any way to check if a map uses custom enemies or adds new weapons without playing the map itself?

>>6995095
>According to Doom Eternal, its the same marine in 1, 2, 64, 2016 and Eternal
Yeah nah. Same way I don't count anything Disney makes of Star Wars as canon, I don't count anything from Bethesda Doom as canon for anything other than itself. It trying to rewrite the 90s Doom games is nauseating.

Why do Shamblers look like shit? They're the least intimidating boss-level monster in an ID game.

>>6995131

>>6995110
>>6995127
>When Doom 1 + 2 modding is still probably going to be a thing in decades time but nobody cares about Eternal anymore

oh

>>6995110
>>6995127
It is and eat a dick samefag resetranny.
Everyone here doesn't mind and it was discussed a lot, and you are the autistic tourist inciting flamewars and baits to ruin this thread earlier on.

>>6995119
it explains a lot seeing how they act nowadays.
Modern epic is Everything bad from al 90's companies into one single mogul tech and game company.
From idiots who hates modding, to code monkeys who knows nothing about rendering, and makes stuff look like plastic with Vaseline smeared all over of it.

>>6995136
I'm not saying they're a bad monster, they just look really shitty. The design is great in theory, but their blockiness, weird movement, floaty death and silly lightning pose ruins their intended effect.

>>6995138
What wad is this?

>>6995137
I don't think it'll be forgotten, but I think it'll take a somewhat similar path to Doom 3, being "Those Games", some like them, some don't, they have some influence on the fanbase and wadmaking, but the classic games just have better staying power thanks to the fanbase's modding proclivities.

>>6995139
Don't be a twat, I don't even hate Doom 4, I'm just saying nuDoom isn't cannon to the classic games.

>>6995152
zdoom community map project 2
to be fair the head is hidden behind a wall that's hidden behind a wall

>>6994927
Thank you, kind anon.

>>6995158
>Don't be a twat, I don't even hate Doom 4, I'm just saying nuDoom isn't cannon to the classic games.
He's a schizo aussie shitposter who nolifes the rest of /vr/, giving him more (You)s only enables his mental illness

>>6995158
I didn't mean forgotten, I just meant that the people who think it's the best Doom will have moved on to whatever sequels it has and nobody will bother to mod for it.

>>6995146
PUM PUM PUM PUM

>>6995139
>OG Doom: Holy shit, demons have tech and used it to cybernize themselves, that explains the fusion of flesh and metal in some levels
>New Doom: ACKSHUALLY, it was the UAC and even Maykrs that cybernized demons and even Spectres were created by accident by the UAC, since Hell is so visually basic, it's pretty clear demons are like alien cavemen
I feel like these were supposed to be reboots like 3 until someone thought of whether or not you were still the same Doomguy and then based the Slayer over some memes associated with Doom
Otherwise, Doom had its longevity from being "open", meaning it might as well benefit from a lack of proper lore
Plus, Eternal had one shitty anti-cheat updated and timed content and i doubt id has any plans to make sure the online content lasts or is held by players, when 2016's online shit might as well go "poof", meaning pieces of gaming history will be lost, whether you liked them or not

>>6995146
Its not meant to be a horror game.
Although it's true that their model isnt the highest quality. Chillo has a great model replacement that's higher-poly (but still within original Quake limits so its not out of place).

>>6995158
Who cares what is canon. Doom barely had any story or lore. Cool setting, but barely anything else that could be called canon.

>>6995095
I'm so glad they introduced 'the divinity machine' in Eternal as an explanation of how Doomguy went from a regular human to a supercharged Marvel-tier superhero who can rip monster in two with his bare hands.

Also the implication that Doomguy could be reduced to his original power level if Id want to make a more grounded sequel in the future.

>>6995181
True, but the other monsters and creatures look like they belong in some Lovecraftian dimension of evil. Shamblers have some hint of this, but their huge size makes the limitations of the times graphics more obvious and they look derpy thanks to it.

>>6995204
I hated the divinity machine.
This guy has been shooting up Hell for an untold amount of time, but Hell only worries about him now he's been given the Captain America serum?

>>6995178
Yeah, in that timeline's Earth. Doomguy is from another timeline in the multiverse.

>>6995208
It explains the ridiculous shit he does in 2016 onwards

>>6995216
That is a different doomguy to the one from the 90s.

>>6995158
Im not, is just that it is no matter how it ended up.
if it was id devs making out of spite against deathbattle, or Hugo and Marty who wanted doomguy back into what he was, or id who had enough of military metro shooter clones.
Plus i don't care, at least is better than what sakamoto did to the metroid franchise with his autistic fanfiction known as Metroid manga and Other M, which ruined the character and the franchise because of his butthurt towards Retro and the Prime series.
Which is far worse and it almost happened because of the Doom Movie.

>>6995169
Im a fucking gorilla Alf friendo.
And projecting yourself to evade bans doesn't help in your situation.

>>6995172
I remember when people hated doom 3 and RPG at 1st and ended up liking besides its downsides.
that period brought a lot of new blood and stuff for the community, and even good shit came out of it due to the new myriad of ideas.

>>6995219
I liked Doom 3 from the beginning, I just recognized that it wasn't as good as a game as the classic ones.

>>6995219
I've also never hated Doom 3, I actually think it's a fantastic horror game.
It's just a bad Doom.

>>6995139
>and makes stuff look like plastic with Vaseline smeared all over of it.
The plastic I can agree with, but the vaseline not so much. Not for their current flagship game fortnite anyway.
What the hell else do they even do? I mean other than UE4, which has a lot of the vaseline features, but those are completely optional.

>>6995240
I don't really think Doom 3's horror works very well, it relies mostly on surprising the player with monsters, which you'll grow to expect to the point that it stops actually surprising you because you know it's gonna continue to happen.

I do think that it's an alright shooter though.

Started playing Remnant today
Not yet finished with, but it feels like quite fun map. Gameplay is great and it combined with otex and sexy map design makes it feel like little expansion of Eviternity.

>>6995218
no?

>>6995270
Yes.

>>6995040
Is Hell To Pay limit-removing or vanilla-compatible? I couldn't get it to run in Doom2.exe, Doom2P.exe, nor Doom32.exe, but it runs in MBF.exe. I'm just curious for the sake of organization (I organize my PWADs based on compatibility)

>>6995276
Haven't had a chance to try it yet. I'll see.

>>6995276
I assumed it was vanilla-compatible because I don't think limit-removing ports even existed in 1996, but it fails to load in Chocolate Doom as well. I'll put it in the limit-removing folder.

>>6995276
It works in Crispy. Not sure what that says about about it's status, but I suppose limit removing.

>>6995312
Neither game has correct level names in the auto map. When I get some free time I'll make a wad patch with dehacked/bex lumps included.

>>6995276
>>6995289

Runs fine in Chocolate Doom for me, you are using -merge instead of -file, right?

>>6994927
>Romero plays and maps Doom on a Mac at like 25fps
>He uses heavy texture filtering

Crispy cucks eternally BTFO

>>6995324
I didn't know about this parameter. TY anon. The new sprites look hilariously bad.

>>6995346
Yeah, -file in Chocolate Doom has the same limitations as -file with the vanilla executable, so only maps, sounds and patches can be replaced without complication. -merge exists in Chocolate to fill the function of various patching utilities from that era, allowing modification of sprites and flats with more modern ease.

>>6995327
CHAD SETTINGS

>>6995327
why would I care how anyone else plays their doom instead of just picking what I personally like

>>6995389
Sounds like nearest pixel fag cope

>>6995381

>>6995381

>>6995123
Yes. Download a program called Slade. Open the wad in Slade, and have a look. It's surprisingly intuitive to use. I've been copy-pasting sprites and sounds from other sources into my own little mod so I can have more fun when playing TNT and Plutonia. For example, I have the Tommygun from Blood instead of the chaingun (I didn't pull the sprites from Blood, I took them from a mod called Immoral Conduct which took them from Blood), and the Unmaker from Doom64 instead of BFG (it functions the same).
Here's the mod so you can play with it; I think it's really cool. I updated it with some new stuff since I last posted it, like fixing the position of the tommy gun on screen
https://files.catbox.moe/yak9p7.wad
I took sprites/sounds from all over the place, like Immoral Conduct, Doom -1, D4V, and 2048 Units of /vr/

>>6995423
I will try taking a look,thanks anon

>>6995423
I could say,for example,mix and match monster sprites from any wad into one? does this work in heretic as well or just DOOM?

Been working on some stuff...

>A
late 20th century mall cinema

>B
Currently running

>C
Beautiful seat covers (brightness turned up)

>D
20th century convenience store. Emulate the original feel of buying a bag of milk in the 20th century! To be added: clerk verbally abusing you

>>6994927
>thanks buckethead for the music
>no mention of jimmy's midis

>>6995501
I think that was recorded before Jimmy got involved.

>>6995470
Seeing a theater in the Doom engine will be really neat, that's something I normally expect from Build

>>6995465
Yes and yes

>>6995470
Reminder that Lunar Apocalypse is the best Duke Nukem 3D episode.

>>6995319
Here it is. Use the -mapname.wad with the main corresponding wad to get automap level names. I did a mixture of Tom Mustaine's and the official names where appropriate, usually choosing what was more unique or took up less space (episode 1 names are fucking long). Enjoy.
https://a.uguu.se/ybtjil.7z

>>6994865
Arcane Dimensions got a patch
http://www.simonoc.com/pages/design/sp/ad.htm

I've packaged some good old Eriance sprites for vanilla play with the help of the dehextra. Is there a certain way to check if all of my code won't cause desyncs in any of the demos?
All animation sequences should have proper number of ticks but one needs to be sure. Wad in question https://mega.nz/file/oHoXmKhR#Do0NooxVrPOrVpWjOueQhzb3Oza4PCnnDmFk5zUK9-0
>>6994986
Are there any contenders for a place in Final Doom that /vr/ has in mind? Memento Mori wads are evident choice, but what else?

>>6995581
more of a hotfix, and the link's already in the newspost anyway

When will combine arms be updated?

>>6995131
I'm Nearing the end of episode 2 of Scourge and at some points it's just Shamblers, Shamblers everywhere.
They're easier to kill than I remember, it's the Vores I fucking hate. They're like Revenants only their missiles understand corners for the most part.

>batman like transition effects in doom
https://twitter.com/CorwinB87/status/1315524492647522304

I can't think of more 20th century stuff you could do as theme park style stuff or buy as "antiques"....
Anybody got any suggestions? I don't want the weekend to go by idly.

>>6995623
I can't give you an exact date. I still need to overhaul the crate weapons, finish the last weapon for the default set, and do some tweaks to the BlastMaster.
No more big ass updates like this, it's hell on me

>>6995642
Looks like a fun time when combined with batman doom.

>>6995643
an eyewear shop
call it "GL_NEAREST Optical"

>>6995381
>the zoomer LARPer pixelshit ricer config
>the chad boomer "looks good to me" default filter config

>>6995663
go to bed gg

>>6995643
An arcade with actual eighties arcade game cabinets could be really cool with the right lighting and texturing, maybe include a secret room hidden somewhere with an old-ass PC tower and a CRT monitor.
What could be a SUPER COOL addition would be a video rental/comic book shop where you could turn in collectible Dredd comics and movies for some sort of reward, possibly unlockable/upgrading weapons to encourage secret hunting and exploring the detailed environments that you're making. That sounds like a shitload of work to implement tho.

>>6995704
So you don't have to do a hub world or something you could make the store appear across multiple levels and it'll make sense in the context of the world since it's a chain store

>>6995643
Film cameras.

Had a dream when i was in high school or college and had to work on a Doom megawad, for a school project
Then i ran into Boogie (Yes that Boogie3688 or whathever the fuck he's called) and asked "hey, can i borrow your maps" and he was like "yeah sure"

Anyone else here enjoying AD's chaos mode? It's a big deal for me because Quake's original maps are still my favorites and AD's new enemy types make them much more challenging.

As mentioned in the previous thread, I took issue with the widowmaker being available in the mode because I felt that it was too useful over other weapons. Apparently one other reason why I find shotguns too useful over nailguns in chaos mode is because the randomizer often replaces small shell boxes with large ones. Also, the mode randomizes armor and powerups and I think it's dumb when a yellow armor gets replaced with a green armor or a biosuit gets replaced with invulnerability.

In addition to removing the weapon upgrades, I ended up removing almost all the randomizing functions except for the monster randomizer. However, I did keep the randomizer which occasionally replaces health packs with enemies because that's fun.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/h9c4jv

If you're a purist like me and prefer having the original 100 ammo cap for shells, although this change affects the rest of AD and not just chaos mode:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/fx9dif

>>6995662
"Nearest Neighbor Optical" sounds more believable while keeping the joke.

>>6995725
Radical yet again, my man. Everything you've done should really, really be options already in AD.

>>6995662
Hm, like regular glasses or what? Or just to make this joke? See also >>6995728

>>6995704
Oof, that would indeed be a lot to implement, and desu it goes against what I want to do. No upgrades or anything for the judge, just pure skill and sometimes a bit of luck. However, for the future there *might* be Lawmaster segments and *maybe* different divisions like Tek and Psi. And frankly, I never planned on making the environments as detailed as they are right now (and they're not as nearly as detailed as stuff you see from the good mappers), but it just kinda got out of hand when I tried to make a mall and noticed I had ideas that I couldn't do with the standard textures. I mean, I don't have names for those stores yet.

>>6995715
Can you elaborate? Like, for buying or trying or what? Since I already have the theater.

I probably should have mentioned that I wanted to focus more on the first half of the century with this. I have a 50s diner and the rest is second half to late second half. Skimming the internet I got the idea of maybe putting an actual otto engine car in one of the rooms or something.

>>6994931
from the other thread: >>6995692

>>6995762
A showcasing of Ford Model Ts

>>6995381
>>6995663
lmao
I actually used to like the way the game looked when I played in Doom Legacy's OpenGL renderer. In retrospect, it was just a novelty thing and mostly because of the light effects rather than filtering, but I'd still go back to it sometime for nostalgia, I guess.
I always preferred Quake's original renderer, though.

>>6995762
>Hm, like regular glasses or what? Or just to make this joke?
for the joke, yeah.
could also put in the obligatory They Live reference, maybe one for Videodrome too. fill the rest with wackiest designs.

>>6995381
You might want to pick up the phone.

>>6995762
Yeah, the shop idea is tons of work. The only other decent idea I can come up with is an illegal sporting goods/gun store that's used essentially as a gunplay section (with neat sports goods details) where the goal is to arrest the perps and seize the illegal weaponry. That could be a fun section to break up Mall exploration or something

>getting filtered by blake stone
How do I git gud? Every hitscanner enemy just two shots me. Playing veteran difficulty.

>>6995613
Previous link got borked https://mega.nz/file/AKozFQLY#FUT6FSomFX2SZ3AhUAtIkykZvYQP2nlhT3WPGlncAjg

>>6995979
Don't get hit, especially in close quarters. You can't stunlock enemies like Wolf3D, so your only option is to duck out. The Plasma Discharge Unit has more range than you'd expect, abuse the hell out of it.

I miss Inmost Dens.
I wish we still had a central source for retro FPS and mod news.
Didn't it had like 5 admins and they all quit?

>>6995510
I mean, we DID have animated TVs in 1994

>>6995394
>>6995327
Seeth, fuckwad.

>>6994863
Doom 2 but you fight viruses and Bacteria.

>>6996140
>Acetaminophen Quest

>>6995776
Same. I thought the models were a neat novelty too, however poorly done.

Heyo, author of 2048 map 11, Retirement Grease, I fixed these 10 imps not teleporting into the level like they should (they couldn't reach the teleport linedefs because there wasn't enough space for their hitboxes to pass over it far enough).

Now, my question is, this is going to make the blue key room even harder, and that's already a real tittytwister of a room, so I want to ask if you're willing to let me soften it slightly, maybe place a couple of stimpacks, or if you prefer it this way. There hasn't been a lot of complaints, but it was pretty tough for me when I first played it, and it's quite a spike in the first third of the levelset.

can we please get a Remake of Quake 1 and Quake 2 guns?
the Q2 grenade launcher texture map really triggers my jimmies

>>6996160
Not the author, but I think the room is fine as it is. Might be easier just to delete those extra monsters and their dummy sectors.

>>6995110
>>6995127
Even so, I still agree with their version that Doom 1, 2 and 64 is the canon order, the manual even fucking says its the same marine in 64, thats why they send you. Having a head canon is fine but why would you think it's a different continuity?

They haven't re-written anything, just added to it. Have you even played them?

Hey guys, the 2048 Units of /VR/ server is up again tonight. I figured out how shit works now so jumping and crouching is disabled lol, come and play.

>>6996171
*the manual for Doom 64 says its the same marine, just in case I didn't word that clearly

>>6996169
I suppose I could do that, but I'd like to hear the author's opinion when it comes to changing aspects of the gameplay. This really is a tough as hell room though, cramped and crowded, it is UV, granted, but the other levels around this part also aren't quite so hard.

>>6996160
Am the author, not sure why those Imps wouldn't teleport in when each room use the same dimensions as every other Imp teleporter and those don't break. I have no qualms with making that map a little bit more difficult, it's just 4 Imps anyway that will get rid of the slightly awkward pause between enemy spawns.
As for the health, I would leave that up to your discretion.

>>6996160
>>6996216
hmm

I beat this map in beta2 (pistolstart saveless blah) and thought it was extremely difficult, one of the hardest in the set.

then when replaying it in v1.2 or so, i thought that room had become much easier? maybe something was introduced between?

anyway as some rando who played through and loved 2048, i think it's fine to suddenly kick people's asses in that map

>>6996160
also i guess you are lead anon. you are a god; 2048 is just wonderful

>>6996226
What source port are you using? It wasn't an issue for me in GLBoom.

>>6996226
>i think it's fine to suddenly kick people's asses in that map
I'm not opposed to it, but I just wonder how the 'general audience' will react to it.

>>6996234
Nah, I'm the guns guy, I just take the time to do this because other people are busy.

>>6996226
>>6996238
Might be worth noting that this release is from August 27. I didn't download any of the hotfixes since then.

>>6996238
Is there a BFG9000 in Map11? I'm pretty sure there isn't, you'd have to have carried it over from a previous level playing continuously, which is fine, but we have to mind pistol start.

>>6996250
I used idkfa and idclip to get in there quickly so I wouldn't have to play the entire map.

>>6996256
Then that input isn't going to be very useful for us, is it?

>>6996270
The Imps would be triggered regardless.

>>6996239
yo the guns are sick too, thanks man

>>6994863
Why is serious sam in here https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

yet not listed in the OP? >(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)

>>6996238
indeed glboom.

maybe i was just super apprehensive and planned much more carefully the second time, and it felt easier.

black crest also felt way easier the second time i beat it

(and was hell ag

can we all agree that the spider mastermind greets you by screaming

"WHERE WERE YOU ???"

Alright, while we're at it, here's a couple of other questions on difficulty in 2048, mind these are just one person, but I'd like to hear if any of you guys agree, and I would also like to hear from the author in question for each map:

>MAP20: ammo is very tight, I actually run out after the imp/arachnotron area. It then suddenly becomes plentiful when player finds the plasmagun. Maybe you could redistribute it?

>MAP22: if the player doesn't find secrets (like I didn't), ammo is very tight until the red key. It's fine after that, redistributing it a bit would help.

>MAP26: teleport linedefs around sector 260 are facing the wrong way. And... two archvile traps with no available cover and no BFG? Seriously?
Personally, I think he can suck it up, it's late in the mapset, and on UV. I did it fine and I'm not exactly ZeroMaster.

>MAP28: it's possible to jump from the green-lit door onto the round cyberdemon platform and then fall into its pit. Skull switches on the square pillar in the archvile trap room are not centered.
I knew I should have redone that, might as well (it'll remove some exploits with some gameplay mods anyway). Also people keep calling the switch alignment an error, it's not, it's an aesthetic choice. It's not a GOOD aesthetic choice, but it's one I made at the time in a hurry.

>MAP32: backpack and radsuit are stuck on the conveyor belt, probably because they have bigger height than other items.
Might be a ZDoomism, I'll take a look at this.

in gzdoom, what difficulty it defaults to if I use the console map warp command?

>>6996512
Most sourceports default to medium.

Does /vr/ do deathmatches?

>>6996571
What do you mean like individually, or in general do we set them up?

>>6996397
This map filtered me more than I want to admit.

I'm gonna get a vanilla DM server going on Zandro soon since the 2048 Units server I put up yesterday and today were fun. On a related note my dudes, where can I find ALL of the /VR/ community megawads and which ones are more optimized for coop? Doing coop in 2048 Units of /VR/ with y'all is SUPER fun but it wasn't designed for co-op so softlocks keep happening. Having our own /VR/ megawad map rotation would be really cool

>>6996172
Hey server guy, here's some of the other /vr/ projects that won't have stuff break in multiplayer I hope
200 minutes: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/megawads/200minvr
300 minutes: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/megawads/300minvr

Also, some DM wads that might be cool:
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/deathmatch/Ports/megawads/32in2415
http://doomshack.org/wads/lazarus1j.wad

>>6996610
Thanks again, buddy! If I set em up tonight I'll make a post about it

Hello, you absolute legends

Balls, it looks like Zandronum doesn't support server WAD rotation. If they added in that feature (with the ability to votechange the WAD) it would be ROCKIN'.

>open map editor
>make a bench
>lose all inspiration
>close map editor

>>6996703
But have you tried making two benches?

>>6996703
Have you tried making a map out of benches?

>>6996707
What kind of maniac needs TWO benches?

>>6996710
Now you're just talking nonsense.

>>6996710
Are there any existing maps like that to use as a benchmark?

>>6996720
Dead Simple

>>6996686
Don't servers get around that by having a hub map that leads to other megawads? Like Lexicon?

Map 30 Scythe is so fucking confusing. I can't tell which path they want me to take.

The 300 Minutes of /VR/ server is up (with the new 2048 Units of VR guns, too). Come and join. And yeah, I'll make up a consistent server schedule soon so I dont keep spamming up threads.

Finally was able to complete a no-death run of this bad boy on I am Death Incarnate. Those last 3 or 4 levels are no joke, especially Floor 16 with the Uber Mutant boss.

>>6994865
One last addition to 2048GUNS, renamed the Zandybam version so maybe it's more clear, also added a shotgun sound to the DeHacked version, on top of that the Chaingunner now makes the Chaingun/Pistol sound instead of the Shotgun sound (Spidermind still sounds the same, because his Chaingun is much bigger).
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/535235566476853259/766883919344828449/catboxmoeisbeingapieceofshit.zip

Once again, big thanks to Hackfraud and Brxyz.

Since i see there are some changes pending to 2048 units of /vr/ before the idgames release i decided to de a minor state change to MAP 18.

A little (and pointless) lava pit had the same floor height than the near floor making it look odd.

This is not even a bugfix, and you can ignore it if it just add more work.

https://files.catbox.moe/zso2x3.zip

Here's your every couple of thread reminder to play Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II. That means you Civvie.

>>6996897
I want him to do a Doom WAD since those are on the table now.

>>6996540
So how do do I make it UV? wanna do UV pistolstarts

>>6996909
1) Start a new game on UV
2) Type ICDLEV xx (where xx are the map numbers)
3) ????
4) PROFIT!!!!

Where do you find the Nightmare difficulty on DM4Jam for Quake?

>>6996852
Nice shotgun sound :)
Here are some cool-looking sprites that'd look cool in the megawad as well. These chaingunner and shotgunner sprites seem to be common as I've seen them in Preacher.wad as well as Brewtal Dewm. And the teleport sprites are from Doom64
https://files.catbox.moe/f4iwqd.zip
Also, I noticed the megawad does not have a DSSECRET sound. So I included two possible options: the Ocarina of Time secret sound, and the Quake 1 secret sound.

>>6996913
cool, thanks. kinda fairly new to dooming.

>>6996929
Guns set already has the Quake secret sound, so that's in, not personally a big fan of the PSX/D64 teleport effect. I'll take a look at the stuff though.

>>6996849
Now play the mission packs and suffer.

>>6996720
Bench Quest and Bench Quest 2 : The Struggle for Seating.

>>6996945
I fucked up the order of the secrets on like Floor 17, and permanently screwed myself from getting the mandatory gold key. I was so pissed I haven't tried it since. I despise that shit.

>>6996956
You made it further than I did.

Answer honestly /doom/, how many anons here have actually finished this shit completely? I'm talking BOTH 2 and 3.

>>6996870
I'll add that.

>>6996780
That was a lot of fun. Thanks for hosting, bro!

>>6996780
Had tons of fun. Thanks for hosting!

>>6996903
Yeah. I remember he once positively namedropped Eviternity in his Prodeus. So would be keen to see him do wad reviews

>>6996987
in his Prodeus video*

>>6996957
I'll do it eventually. The key is to just always hang left, like you would if you were in a maze. Eventually, you'll find the exit. That's the main putoff of those mission packs - the level design is just straight up cancerous. If you actually tried to memorize where you've been and where you need to go, it'd drive you crazy because it's impossible. Only way to play the game is to just keep sticking to the leftmost wall until you get to where you need.

>>6996419
I don't agree

>>6997002
On what?

Immorpher, the maker of the Doom 64 hi-res sfx mod (MorphSound), posted a link to a bunch of Doom 64 levels

https://docs.google com/spreadsheets/d/1kgPXUDuxEaCN6nxVsWiY2lBy9XM-e9er2Z2D67azgC0/edit#gid=0
(finish the link by adding the . to .com; im getting spam-filtered)

is there no christmas and halloween jam this year for quake? last year was so good because of them, kind of a shame if so

>>6997056
they're not public this year, you have to join dumptruck's quake discord

>>6997056
There is a halloween jam.
>>6997064
There's a public post on the most popular Quake forum, func_msgboard.

Do you guys think a /VR/ community DM server should have an 8-10 player max and use the 2048 Units of /VR/ guns? I wanna know your opinions, I was thinking of having it run Lazarus1j.wad but I'm still not too sure if that's the best mapset to run.
Also, how far ahead are community mapping projects planned for? A community deathmatch wad would be sick!

>>6995613
did Eriance ever draw a chainsaw? The default one doesn't fit the cartoony style

Which is the superior mod for the original Quake 1 campaign? Quake 1.5? or Arcane Dimensions Chaos Mode?

>>6997082
There's one in Demon Eclipse. IIRC it's double-bladed.

>>6996897
Literally the worst FPS gameplay of all time. Slow projectiles + incredibly inaccurate guns + tiny enemy hitboxes + high player damage = shit

>>6994863
>[10-11]Retroquad 0.1.0 is out - a Q1 engine with state-of-the-art 8-bit renderer. Dev in dire trouble.
>https://mankrip.tumblr.com/post/631533857388314624


Man, that fucking sucks balls. The dude got fucking sued because of burst water pipe.

What a bunch of punks.

>>6997064
>>6997071
thanks so much guys, gonna be a great halloween

>>6997206
What a fucking shithole that a clearly obvious water leak he is being held responsible for. Typical 3rd world Brazil.

Feel bad for the guy. I'd give him 50 bucks to fuck his daughter. Help the guy out

>>6996928
in the starting area, but you need to shoot some hidden buttons around the hub first

Are there any modern-ish Doom skin repositories? The only one I've been able to find was last updated in 2004

Does the Evil difficulty in AD have a pillar in the start map or do you really have to use the console to activate it?

>>6997281
what is a skin?

>>6997281
150 skins compiled by Doomkid, I think those are rather new, but it's largely just palette swaps and stuff like BFG chaingunners and such.

>>6997305
Yeah, I was hoping that my searches would uncover a trove of weird anime/funny/video game skins from a bygone age. The best I've been able to find is the Epidermis Emporium

YOU KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS. WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON, MAPS, MODS, SPRITES? LET'S FUCKIN SEE IT.

>>6997330
Isn't there a bunch of stuff on idgames?
There's also a rather large skin pack fro Zandronum, but I don't know when it's from.

>>6997082
>>6997108
Only the Chaingun (with half-assed muzzle flash edit by me) was taken from Eclipse, the Saw is a little bit too cartoony imho. Wish i had some knack for sprite making/editing, would've been nice to make a saw replacement and smooth out pistol's animation.
I've also made another personal couple of DEH patches to spice things further a bit, one is for weapons and another one is for monsters. I'm content with them as for now

Patch changes https://pastebin.com/SEWrECgy
DEH for monsters https://pastebin.com/VKw8ttCk

>>6997364
Still working on the mall. I honestly appreciate your suggestions, but I still don't quite feel they properly fit into the theme of the mall (or are too elaborate for me right now).
I am trying to think of something good for sports and cars and I would love to incorporate the "nearest neighbor optical" somewhere, but right now my brain is full of fuck, so I want to try something else.
Here pictured are the stores/venues I have so far:

>1
A "book" store. However, you can't buy any books, but just smell how a library would smell.

>2
A 20th century convenience store. Get the authentic experience of buying milk late at night while the cashier abuses you

>3
UAC recruitment center (Kleggs on Mars? Who knows!)

>4
authentic 20th century 50s diner (with roboservant)

>5
20th century clothing store, with the best clothing from the 50s to the 90s

>6
20th century antiques gallery, with different 20th century "originals"

>7
20th century movie theater, currently screening the hit movie "Terminator 2" starring Sylvester Stallone

>8
Since manual labor is a rarity nowadays, you can pay money to feel how it felt. Authentic broom, vacuum (with different flooring available) and authentic 20th century wooden fence with authentic 20th century lead paint.

Now I need your help again in finding NAMES for those stores. Maybe it will spark some inspiration for the other stores.

>>6997385
it's just a redrawing of the D64 chaingun. there's a version of the D64 with hands and more realistic palette.

>>6997446
*chainsaw

>>6997298
nvm found it

>>6997438
>The Novel Nose
>2024/7
>MARS NEEDS (WO)MEN
>Coarse Cuisine
>Down to Earth Attire
>Yesteryear's (Equipment and Technology)
>Authentic Bioscoop
>Live to Work

why cant I find any info on Wrath of Cronos?
Besides a 60 page zdoom forum thread.

What are the keys for chests for? How do you get pet followers? Why is there no detailed readme?

>>6997364
Implementing secret starting encounters.

>>6997460
Yo where was it?

>>6997645
find nightmare first, then look around. slightly easier in the second hub since you can pay attention to the sounds

Something comfy about roaming old and new duke maps, shame there is next to no user maps with life´s a beach assets.

>>6997086
what is arcane dimensions chaos?

>>6997086
1.5 has eddies so 1.5
>>6997672
AD 1.8 came with a monster and item randomizer for the id1 maps. On the starting map for AD, go straight and then there'll be a hole.

>>6997665
Duke is incredibly detailed for the time. Doom as well when you think about it.

Its the sort of thing 2D\3D mashup consoles were trying to pull of in the saturn\ps1 era but didnt have the horsepower to do like that.

I love 2D pixels mixed with a 3D environment. When jrpgs did it like breath of fire etc I disregarded their other problems just to look at the art.

>>6997086
Also, 1.5 for Quakespasm fucking when?

>>6996592
yeah holy shit

i just gave it around 20 tries, could not beat it

>>6997683
I don't think there's any polygons in that game. It is sprites on top of the Saturn's infinite plane background.

>>6997703
Yeah no, but other stuff like Panzer dragoon etc, that mix of 2D and 3D.

>>6997086
Just tried playing a bit of Chaos mode:
>The new enemies are pretty great for the most part
>They actually improved the Shambler model significantly, he looks great here
>Widowmaker shotgun is too powerful imo
>Not a fan of the shotguns now using projectiles instead of hitscan. This is the only change I'd say that sucks.
Otherwise, pretty good

>>6997086
AD. Quake 1.5 would be literal perfection if it was just a gore/visual mod. The dev was retarded and tweaked way too many things to where it is a clusterfuck to play. Expect cheap deaths, bad boss fights, and shit level edits

>>6997683
>Letting Veltarna get off a magic spell
>Player is using Hilga
I mean come on just throw the dagger at the start of the fight, please

>>6997710
I also think the widowmaker is a bit too much so I'm about to try Chaos with this anon's tweaks here >>6995725
I also am 50-50 on the shotguns being projectiles so I bound T to "impulse 130", this toggles them between hitscan and projectiles.

>>6995470
>that film selection
top tier

>>6997720
The projectile thing isn't a huge deal breaker but I might use the tweaks because Quake was never designed around them.

>>6997702
>>6996592
okay i felt bad after writing that and tried again, with a different choice of weapons. i just went full bfg spam in the spider area. ended up being completely okay.

pretty funny how a weapon choice can be so critical.

>>6997594
it's been a while since my playthrough of WOC but I think I remember the keys are just the way you progress through the map at certain points (key>chest/quest items=exit). As for pet followers I think you have to play necromancer to get them. Just open the "rpg menu" and browse through each classes skills in order to see what they have. There's quite a lot to it, so just explore the mechanics as you go through the mod, It's really a lot of fun. Necromancer was a great playthrough

>>6997710
Impulse 130 to disable shotgun pellets. Developer 1, and then impulse 205 (when you have the Widowmaker) to disable the Widowmaker.

>>6997710
>>6997781
Also, anon's tweaks are mostly for Skill 4/Evil mode if I recall, since you can't disable the Widowmaker on skill 4.

Speaking for myself, I've been doing chaos mode on skill 4, and the widowmaker isn't really saving me too much, but I can see how it would feel very overpowered on skill 3.

>>6997720
>>6997781
It's more convenient to disable shotgun projectiles via the quake.rc file

>>6997789
Way ahead of you, buckaroo.

>>6997781
Thanks. I might just use Impule 130 to disable the pellets.
I can see what they were thinking, but I just don't think it suits Quake.

>>6997803
Agreed, but for a different reason. It's far too easy to gib enemies with the pellets enabled, and I just don't like that.

>>6997789
Doesn't that disable them completely?
And is more convenient? You just open the console, type 'bind yourbuttonhere "impulse 130"' and you can toggle it depending on your mood.

2048 UPDATE
Noticed somebody on Doomworld complaining about MAP12's final teleport ambush being to slow, I tweaked it to be much more efficient.
https://anonymousfiles.io/fZDth02A/

>>6995210
Multiverses are gay.
nu-Id is gay and pozzed by Zionmax

fuck off now.

>>6997784
Actually haven't tried playing beyond Hard yet. But it seems to me that regardless of difficulty, the balance of vanilla maps + chaos mode heavily favors the widowmaker. Vanilla maps are all about very close quarter encounters unlike most AD maps and you have a weapon that kills almost as fast as the GL without the risk of self damage.

>>6997819
Seethe faggot.
fuck back to /v/ and resetera where you belonh

>>6997781
AD is great but some of the stuff fits better in hexen or doom than Q1

>>6997835
I hate that they added MORE knights jesus fucking christ. Give me some eldritch shit.

>>6997835
*belong

you forgot the g newfag.

>>6997835
also why are you nu-Id fanboys so sensitive hm? you know that Zionmax is going to eventually force Id to slap some SJW messages into Doom and when that happens I will sit back and laugh as you all wail and gnash your teeth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgEpnRxx5Fc

how do I get the music and cutscenes to work properly in nblood? The readmes are too vague to figure out.

>>6997847
if i had put the g, you would be the thrice as faggot as alf and sarais.
and this board doesn't need more

>>6997841
i don't mind the knights, just the guns that doesn't feel right.
in fact i've found this yesterday game banana is full of kino Q1,Q2 and Q3+RTCW stuff that flew through the radar
https://gamebanana.com/skins/174280

>>6997863
extract the videos and music

>>6997867
YOOO that's fucking sick. Thanks for posting that.

So what's the deal with the knights in Quake, anyway? They're all just chilling in these castles with eyeless horrors, they don't exactly fit in.
Are they humans from conquered universes or something?

>>6997867
>>6997863
actually I'm a moron, I forgot to mention I'm trying to get Death Wish working.

>>6997872
They could just be reanimated knights of the castle.

>>6997814
Oh, I already did a tweak for that, but I'll look at yours when I get back home.

>>6997867
Who?

And how am I a faggot for disliking modern doom? I dont get the fucking hivemind you nu-fag nu-doom fucks have, as soon as someone remotely says anything bad about 2016 and Eternal you fags are crying and wailing and scream for me to go back to /v/ or resetera (which is odd considering they are massive leftists) yeah I am trolling a bit, but christ its worst then listening to gmanlives shill the damn game.

Seriously though I just dont like 2016 and Eternal political shit aside, I dont find them faithful to core concepts of Doom, though I have to give mick credit for his music, it really slaps and is generally pretty good.

>>6997867
Angled weapons don't really fit Quake 1. Also nuDoom isn't canon to classic Doom.

>>6997883
I've also noticed this about the nuDoom fanbase. The moment someone says soemthing bad about the game you've got zoomers like Midnight making whole videos trying to "discredit" the argument.

>>6997887
Bullshit they don't. I'm loving this.

>>6997872
QC and Q1 explains that, they serve other god
https://imgur.com/r/QuakeChampions/i6hw1pX
Humans in other realities and planets ended up revering them

All of Operation Counterstrike and The events of Q1 were planned by them
and the are drinking a lot from Lovecraft, All of Q2's Cerberon runed textures and the makron and the "high caste of the strogg itself are servant of one of the Dark gods, the human strogg war was planned because mankind was introduced to the Slipgate Dimensional Technology, same as the Greiss/Scalebearer race when the strogg came for them, the cycle repeats itself all over again.

>>6997883
>>6997887
>>6997890
at 1st i was holding myself to not call you alf because the posts were different, but after checking /v/ recently, you and your friends are really desperate, right Alf?
Hating HL failed, Hating Quake 1,2,3 failed, and now you are into this when everyone disagrees with you.

>>6997890
I know right? even if its slightly critical they fly off the handle, scream and cry maybe shit and cum a little.

Its fucking annoying, even if its something minor like "I dont like how the shotgun looks in eternal" its the biggest sack of whiners I have ever seen.

>>6997893
I aint alf nor care for his retarded opinions on it.

but seems as with the rest of your ilk you are trying to paint me as wide of a brush as possible

No I do not hate Half Life 1 or 2, or any of the Quakes as I am replaying 1 with AD, 2 and 3 where blasts to play and I still boot them up for some DM.

So you wanna try this again or you still gonna try to paint me as someone I am not just because I dont like Doom Eternal?

>>6994923
The only things I remember about TNT were that some of the final levels were way too big and the puzzle platform section to get to the Icon on map 30 was cool.
All in all it's very forgettable.

>>6997896
ok Alf

>>6997902
You really are dumb.

>>6997905
Alf Please

>>6997893
what's with this bizarre desire to treat every fanfic as canon?
tomorrow Microsoft is gonna make a Battletoads crossover and you'll be in this very thread talking about the "lore implications". wake the fuck up.

>>6997908
Hahaha nice try.

Still dont like Doom Eternal and my favorite HL level was On a rail.

next pathetic attempt.

>>6997926
Why On A Rail and not Surface Tension? Just like the more claustrophobic fights more?

>>6997923
Because its word of god and you fucking tourists got assblasted from /v/ to cry out here.
And you niggers are repeating the SAME SHIT Again when someone speaks something about new doom games or story only to push baits
its so fucking predictable that is boring.

>>6997926
Lying doesn't help either in your situation.

>>6997923
If I'm playing classic doom, there's nothing past classic doom. If I'm playing eternal, I reference classic doom. Easy peasy lemon squeezy. Nu-doom doesn't exist until I'm playing nu-doom.

>>6997927
Yes, I found On a rail much more nerve wracking, especially since that area of the facility you have to do more ammo scrounging, plus some of the ambushes where devastating on my first play through of the game in 98, made all the worse because my PC at the time, was just at min spec, so I had framerate issues.

Surface tension is also a blast too, but On a rail edges it out a bit more for me.

>>6997930
Are you even aware of how stupid you look?

>>6997930
all the gods have left.
it's word of corporate money and some unrelated people.

>>6997893
This is pretty interesting, and makes me feel really bad for Ranger.
Guy just wanted to do the job and go home, and now he has no idea who he is and just kills monsters forever.
At least Doomguy is doing this by choice.

>>6997952
> gets killed in an easily avoidable car accident

>>6997893
So I take it the mission packs aren't canon then? Because the start of them implies you're being sent from friendly slipgate bases into the action.

Does /vr/ play with fast monsters enabled? I like the change in pace but pain elementals are fucking annoying with it enabled.

>>6998041
I might switch to that when I get bored of pistol starts. That's my recent keeping things fresh option.

>>6997952
Man I really love that shit. The mod Travail has a nice little introductory story about Ranger's travels before the mod begins. Really brings home how lost he is in this multi-versed hell of killing.

>>6997991
They are still canon per Quake 3's lore, as Q2 mission packs still are due to QC.
and DoE ends with ranger possibly being taken by the vadrigar when he entered the slipgate portal at the end when he destroyed the machine and the Dragon
and speaking of slipgate travel

https://imgur.com/a/CHD2OAR
See this, and open the cerberon and big gun unit in Q2 and its mission packs using SQL2, its full of runes and quake symbols everywhere because the strogg was in cahoots with the elder gods, and the Makron was interested in Bitterman and the humans in stroggos and earth.

and there is 1 elder god in lovecraftian mythos, who has enough knowledge about technology and slipgates to guide and if not create the strogg to continue their goals, and lead them to earth.
https://lovecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Nyarlathotep

>>6998086
That would explain Armagon's appearance being very stroggish.

a FPS based on Duke Nukem 3D had the same engine as Doom2, on GBA.

Quake also used the same engine as Duke Nukem 3D, on Saturn.

>>6994865
YamagiQ2 7.45 is out, its literally Nothing the update BESIDES the Mods tab
https://twitter.com/Doomed_Daniel/status/1317467101855088643
https://yamagi.org/quake2/

also what the fuck is Haiku?

>>6998127
Really activates the almonds.

>>6998127

>>6998129
>Quake 2
It's nice to see it has a fanbase, but it's still the worst retro shooter.
Funnily enough, it was the first FPS I played through to completion (Other than the playstation Medal of Honor games) but looking back I can't bring myself to play it anymore.
The levels are all the same, the Strogg are boring to fight but I guess the sountrack is good.

>>6998165
Alf Please...

>>6991910
>>6994980
I have the same problem and it annoys the shit out of me.
The weird thing is that spiked works fine on my other machine, and a fresh install doesn't help either for some reason.

Anyone have an idea why this is?

>>6998165
The shooting feels good enough, but QII's biggest failing is the environments are totally dull. The most memorable area for me is the Detention Center, but the rest of the game all I remember are boxes, depots, trains, factories, moving parts, and more boxes. It's like a robot built the maps. The monsters are cool too, and of course the soundtrack is sublime.

I had to re-install Windows and now prBoom+ doesn't work. Is it because my graphic driver is fucked?

>>6998187
I'm on an old laptop with a fucked graphic driver because the card isn't even supported anymore, and PRBoom still runs well enough.
It might be something else.

>>6997702
>>6997736
Reminder to download demos from Doom Speed Demos Archive when you get stuck. You can also check the Doomed Speed Demos Archive youtube but the youtube page has a fraction of the demos.

Also note that Doomed Speed Demos Archive ( doomedsda.us ) is no longer maintained, and Doom Speed Demos Archive ( https://dsdarchive.com/ ) is the new one and the one to use. I do not know why the youtube uses the old name but uses demos from the new archive

Pic related looks like a disorganized mess but the SC__-uv and SC__-nm demos all come from the large demo pack released however many years ago, and the individual demos released by players come with text files

>>6998173
see: >>6995770

>>6997893
Stroggs seek flesh and metal fusion so they can reach the older god's realms. At least is what can be deduced from QC's lore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SsJqIUkLjc
This seems pretty redundant (because of Q2VKPT/Q2RTX) but cool nonetheless. It looks a lot less shiny without the PBR in the RTX version which is nice. Wonder how he's able to quickly work on and switch between 3 different id tech engine rt projects so rapidly.

>>6998041
Only play with fast monsters enabled if you really like the level or set of levels and have it memorized. For example, try to beat all of Scythe episode 1 on UV-Fast without dying. You should already be doing pistol-starts no-saves anyway, so to bump it up in difficulty you try to run the entire episode or try to UV-Fast the map (or try to UV-Fast the episode)

>>6998218
>You should already be doing pistol-starts no-saves anyway
Are you trying to derail the thread into 300 posts of people shitflinging on the "right way" to play DOOM?

>>6998218
>You should already be doing pistol-starts no-saves anyway
According to who?

>>6998220
He's right, but he's not. Nobody gives a damn if you completed a wad unless you have a demo and did it UV -max pistol start. But most maps are designed around pistol starts, so you you should do that to maximize fun. No saves is practice for demoing.

>>6997883
>old good new bad

>>6998251
Way to prove him right.

>>6998220
At the least if you're replaying them. Any time I went back to replaying the official levels, any difficult encounter got answered with the rockets I'd always save up.
For me, to each their own. A few days ago someone here said that they had fun doing pistol starts strictly on "hey not too rough"; it's whatever floats your boat.

>>6998180
Stop being lazy and check the pastebin on OP, and the previous threads.
People never cared to find or research, only parrot what baker and the celephais dweebs said about Doom, Q2, Hexen 2 and Q3A.
There were lots of Single player mods and even demos of future games made on Q2 that are still around or lost, one being infinity.
and i really got my ass kicked there, for a 3 demo map + DM the shit is nice, which has something that it was limited only to mp, which was usable turrets for defense using the mouse aim

>>6998215
and this looks better than Nvidia's garbage, in fact it reminds me of pbr tests on GZdoom that were shown here and doomworld months ago

>>6998252
It's literally the entirety of all his posts.

>>6998256
>Stop being lazy and check the pastebin on OP, and the previous threads.
>People never cared to find or research, only parrot what baker and the celephais dweebs said about Doom, Q2, Hexen 2 and Q3A.
>There were lots of Single player mods and even demos of future games made on Q2 that are still around or lost, one being infinity.
>and i really got my ass kicked there, for a 3 demo map + DM the shit is nice, which has something that it was limited only to mp, which was usable turrets for defense using the mouse aim
Did you mean to reply to me?

>>6998220
>>6998236
>triggered
What I mean is, before even considering playing with fast monsters, you should already be able to UV-Max the map, meaning you should be able to 100% it pistol-start no-saves, because playing with fast monsters without having memorized the map means you will be saving and reloading constantly, which is fake and gay. To put it simply:
Fast monsters + saving/reloading all the time < normal monsters

>>6997364
>it's already saturday
please no I was gonna work on it but fuck shit

>>6998262
Yes alf clone.

>>6998263
>Fast monsters + saving/reloading all the time < normal monsters
Now that's a good take

>>6998173
Did you install it in the same folder as quakespasm or a new folder?

>>6998272
I have no idea what's going on. I was just replying to anon agreeing and disagreeing about Quake II. I don't care about Hexen, and I don't see what mods in the pastebin have to do with Quake II's base level design. "A mod does it better" is not an argument for the vanilla campaign. What the fuck are you doing, you retard?

>>6998263
>using a feature in the menu is fake and gay
Not everyone is a wannabe speedrunner and just wants to have fun

>>6998284
>using a feature in the menu is fake and gay
I don't think that's the implication, moreso that you might get more out of a fast monsters run if you're really comfortable with the levels first.

>>6998192
Thanks a million HUHs, hope it gets fixed soon

>>6997890
I enjoyed Doom 4 enough for what it was, I had fun, but I did notice some flaws, particularly how repetitive combat encounter design was. I don't think it's a bad game, but I also don't think it's an excellent game either, there's a lot of things which Classic Doom does better. I do get a chuckle out of hearing that narrator who sounds like the Shockmaster, I can't really take him seriously, to the point that every time I see someone write "The Doomslayer", I read that in his voice in my head and I laugh.

Haven't played Eternal yet, but I hear mixed things, some which make me cringe just thinking about it. I was hoping that Eternal would address some of the flaws of the previous game, but I'm unsure if it did. I'll just have to play the game and see.

I still don't think of the new games as canon to the classic ones, nor to pwads.

I swear to fucking Christ I think the chicken tranny messed with the AI again. I just updated GZDoom, went to dick around through TNT and every former human enemy is attacking MUCH more often than before. I'm barely getting into the courtyard on map02 before getting melted by gunfire and I used to stomp this map without problems.

>>6998310
Eternal is fucking based, much better than Doom 4 in terms of gameplay and I like the story

>>6998312
You sure you don't have anything in the autoload or you're playing with fast monsters?

>>6998326
nope, jack shit, redownloading 4.3.3 to test

>>6998180
I have to agree. You can tell which maps were made with more care than others. The jail unit is the best IMHO and factory and bunker the weakest. Then again I had the same issues with Quake and Doom before. Consistency was not a development area for ancient id.

>>6998258
You missed his point it would seem.

>>6998310
>Haven't played Eternal yet, but I hear mixed things, some which make me cringe just thinking about it. I was hoping that Eternal would address some of the flaws of the previous game, but I'm unsure if it did. I'll just have to play the game and see.
It's more or less the same with ever slightly better gameplay and I'd recommend skipping all the cutscenes. Watch them on a replay if you just want some stills. I felt fairly satisfied for $30.

>>6998317
I think eternal feels like a mod of Doom 4. You know some of those mods nowadays that just fucking cram a bunch of features and items in haphazardly like Doom Exp and shit? That's what eternal feels like to me.
I don't like it. Eternal is over designed

>>6998165
>but it's still the worst retro shooter
Not even remotely true, Operation Body Count is easily much worse, and that's not even the worst shooter of the 90s.
Quake 2 has a lot of good parts to it.

HacX is technically a Total Conversion right?

>>6998187
Could be because there's a lot of dated code in it which is barely supported anymore. Try the beta builds of the UMAPINFO fork.

>>6998339
>REEEEE OLD GOOD NEW BAD YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND ZOOMER OLD GOOD NEW BAD REEEEEEEE

>>6998347
It's awesome, all the changes go to making the combat encounters better and faster and being able to play with the classic Doomguy skin makes it even better

>>6998312
What happens if you turn on Fast Monsters?

>>6997890
>>6997894
for weeks after doom eternal's release /v/ was packed with people proclaiming it the best fps ever bar none, a cornerstone of the genre, rendering everything that came before it irrelevant and whatever other cockmongling you can think of - and any dissent was met with 'lol filtered'

i enjoyed the game but it just goes to show how starved modern gaming is for challenging, well crafted single player campaigns these days

>>6998263
> you have to do a Max run before you can play with modifiers
I can understand that you have to complete a run to the exit first, but getting max items? Nigga that's just fucking tedious. Also, I pistol start at various difficulties because it's fun. This ultra violence or nothing is try hard shit.

>>6998312
LZDoom now supports original rng values. Stop playing gzdoom if you don't like graffs changes.

>>6998310
In terms of gameplay Eternal is great. It's just Doom 4 with some extra polish and some interesting new ideas thrown in.
The story is pure cringe and feels like a Saturday morning cartoon aimed at young adults. There's no sense of a real threat, the big villains are all corrupted aliens instead of Hell itself and Doomguy says lines from the comic at one point. Oh, and he has a space man cave because why not.

>>6998402
UV-Max is 100% kills and secrets, you dumb nigger.

>>6998417
Still sounds tedious.

>>6998369
Child.

Guys can you really say you like doom if you haven't 100%ed every level on nightmare?

>>6998426
>Child.

>>6998437
Feels guy posting nigger.

>>6998432
>Nightmare
That's only for autists

>>6998443
And 100%ing 32 levels before playing with fun modifiers isn't?

>>6998442
>Feels guy posting nigger.

>>6998448
That's also for autists

>>6998456
I like you.

>>6998443
>That's only for CHADS
ftfy

>>6998419
I'm given the impression that it's a speedrunning category above all else, I personally find original level runs the most fun balanced from the pistol start approach.

>>6998442
He said child dumbass.

When will /v/ leave?

>>6998464
Honestly fuck whatever Ultra-violence plus is. iD should have just added pistol starts to their ports. It's surprisingly not tedious at all.

>>6998472
At least you can just find a way to die real quick near the start to reset the level with a pistol, as dumb as it was.

>>6998497
That or having a way to quickly restart the level like Doom 64.

Is there anything better than Quake 2 and a big bowl of creme of sumyung gai on a chilly October Saturday?

>>6998510
>Doom 64
Which reminds me, I need to replay it after this Blood playthrough

>>6998528
>creme of sumyung gai

>>6998469
Honestly it's become an unspoken rule to filter and ignore posts that make use of "zoomer" and "Nu" right? I can't see anyone using those terms in anything but bad faith.

>>6998535
More or less.

>>6998528
>Quake 2
>creme of sumyung gai
>implying Quake 2 fans consoom semen
Based

Doom Quickstarter archive? Anybody got a copy or not?

Quake 2 is good.

>>6998567
>good

>>6997364
Here's some more 500ML progress. I'm working on an outdoor bar at the moment, Uncle Touchy's Souvenirs Shack is next on the agenda.

>>6998567
I agree.

Quake II is good.

>doesn't really like Eternal but never talks about it until one time it actually comes up in discussion
>"Nice post, ALF"
>Okay.png
Imagine thinking every and anyone with a differing opinions is Alf and/or some retards on discord. Lol

In other, more productive news, what're y'all playing this Saturday?

>>6998624

>>6997851
Zionmax/Zenimax got bought by Microsoft, haven't you heard?

>Quake 2 is ba-
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-cant-stop-thinking-about-quake-ii.156433/

>>6998624
Playing through the last few maps of Scourge of Armagon. I'm enjoying it I guess, but there are far too many Vores and those aren't fun to fight.

>>6998674
>resetera link

Which files do I have to mess with in order to revert weapon stats back to their vanilla values? I'm playing Argent and while the nudoom sprites are smooth as fuck, it makes some questionable changes like the rocket launcher being able to 1 shot revenants and other bigger enemies.

>>6998554
use the Mega you dipshit, the torrent is outdated and dead.

>>6998717
Open it up with slade and take a look in the dehacked section.

Many threads ago an anon had a proof of concept for a combination lock using DeHackEd, is that anon still here? I have an idea for a secret exit but want to make my map vanilla-compat.

>>6998760
I'm not sure about DeHackEd. I made a code lock using lowering platforms before. Someone told me about using DeHackEd but never explained.

>>6998719
Where the fuck is that then

>>6998041
seems stressful, and also i don't like the peekaboo meta it forces

also many enemies become unmoving turrents, less fun imo

>>6998779
read the OP you special ed reject.

>>6997883
I think that most of nu-doom haters expected the game to challenge original doom, but i never wanted that. How could it while original has more than 25 years worth of great content. It was fun game to play, and that's it. No reason for me to hate it. It will eventually be forgotten, while classic ones will still live on, but we'll hopefully continue to have cacowards at 2040. Black/white thinking is childish.

>>6998829
I'd take a new Doom game in the Gamebryo engine if it meant we got modding again.

>>6998529

Nice.

>>6998838
Moddable game doesn't mean that there would be mods. Doom 3 was moddable and there is nothing else than Phobos. Classic Doom has lot of mods, because it's simpler to mod due the fact it's older. Sprite based graphics, simple mapping, no need for programming thanks to dehacked and decorate.

>>6998829
Some people seemed to have been under that impression, but I don't know why they would have thought that to be the case. If anything, I think that not being exactly like the classic games is a point in its favor, because it's hard to compete with an immortal classic.

>>6998856
Thus why I suggested one of the other major moddable engines.

>>6998838
Fuck no, that would have been a disaster

>>6997814
Added. Also fixed a GzDoom error on Map32.

>>6998802
>turrent

So, alf and his dicksuckers returned to the "old Quake 2, nu id is bad" from their repeated and banned shitposts from /v/ and /vm/ because they ran out of ideas to create shitposts to derail this thread for the 100th time over the last 3 months?
Expect them going back to "Final doom is bad, System shock ruined fps, HL is bad, Quake killed id and romero's geniuses" next week

Mainly because have no janitors to deal with them, and the janitors by the QA thread are friends with them from the same resetera discord group who has /tg/ in it.

I hate to say and even admit besides his return and shitposting too, but Sarais was right once again.
Discussion about gaming and modding is dead because we gave wings to retards and attention whores.

>>6998901
Also, /DOOM/ - Retro FPS died the day when /vr/ let retards like civvie, Gman and others bring tourists to this board via twitter and their fucking videos.

Why does Doomgay say rip and tear? Is he crying over the bodies of his enemies? I don't get it

>>6998901
>>6998916
Nah it died when fags like you stopped staying on topic.

>>6998901
>>6998916
Then leave.

>>6998927
It's mainly just the new Doom dude saying it. He only said it it an old comic because he's expressing what he wants to do to the cyberdemon's guyts but he never followed through with it because the berserk 'ran out' - and in response, so did he.

>>6998901
Video games

I just spent like 5 hours playing some Hexen wad and it fucking just never ends. It's just stretches forever and you can't make progress and finish any dungeon and there no cohesion. What a waste of my fucking time. I have like 5 dungeons explored with 0 finished and no indication if they're finishable without backtracking or whatever.

I've wasted my entire Saturday on this trash. Fucking 0/10. Fuck you TOC.pk3 can't even muster the energy to see what that even stands for. Fucking faggot nigger mapper homo. I played 5 Hexen wads and this is the only shit one that has burnt me out for being so giant and Boeing.

Quake 2 is as bad as metroidvanias.

What are the most abstract or eldritch custom enemies in Doom?
Also, any mod with Wayne Barlowe-ish vibes?

>>6999021
>Boeing
I know you meant boring but I still had a giggle at the idea of you claiming the mod was as big as a plane.

>>6998928
>>6998954
>>6998962
>>6999026
I rather find and shoot you niggers in the head than leave this board to rats from resetera like all of (you)

>>6999035
The spiders in Total Chaos are pretty freaky

>>6999063
Cope /vr/ hates those games.

>>6998957
anon, you have autism.
re-read his post.

Name a single good idtech game.

>>6998927
I chuckled

>>6998934
A+

>>6996852
When I was testing this, for some reason I was hearing the shotgun sound from the Doom -1 megawad.
I don't like the new shotgun sound in v667 :( It sounds like the rocket launcher sound.
Can we use the PerK's Hi-Res SFX shotgun sound in the megawad? It sounds great

My favourite game that I'm playing today is scrolling past the shitposts in this thread instead of replying to them!

On a serious note though, what mapset would you guys wanna play on a /VR/ community DM server, how many player slots should it have, and should it run the 2048 Units Guns? I've been leaning more towards Lazarus1j for the mapset, and I want to showcase the new guns because they're damn good and I don't think they actually alter the guns in any way beyond textures and sound. Please correct me if I'm wrong about this.

>Not a single mention of id Software
>>6994861
LGS-sama i kneel.

>>6999063
Every time you post I donate $5 to a child mutilation fund. Trannies don't ruin threads, you do.