/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6994043
Cope

soul

>>6994043
>tries to make an antidithering thread
cope harder my dude

A few years ago I found a copy of F1 Exhaust Heat for SNES for cheap, got really exited because it's a game I used to rent as a kid but never found for sale.

Went home, dug out my SNES and hooked it up to an old CRT only to be greeted with even worse than OP's pic, screen flickering and random scanlines. Went and emulated it instead.

>>6994062
It's anti (stock) RF modulator thread.

>>6994043
I'm going to use what's called a pro gamer setup

>buys a DVD of the newest movie and watches it on a portable DVD player from 2003 that has trouble loading hooked up to an 8 inch CRT from the 90s
Damn it feels good to watch as the director intended.

>>6994050
What filters do I use to recreate the left?

>>6994050
Source for anyone that cares:
https://twitter.com/mog4791/status/886921323095629824

There's also a very detailed article about Japanese pixel art and what devs intended for them to look like:
https://vgdensetsu.tumblr.com/post/179656817318/designing-2d-graphics-in-the-japanese-industry

>>6994113
Tell me the game and I'll tell you how to recreate it.

>>6994050
>left: terrifying creatures come walking out of the depths with murderous intent, ready to test your skill
>right: mess of jumbled pixels that looks like a shitty 8-bit representation of generic monster exist as graphics in a video game

>>6994130
Rondo of Blood

>>6994050
>deliberately blow out the brightness on the LCD side to make it look worse
Low energy.

>>6994192
So all you need to do is lower brightness and add horizontal lines?

>>6994241
No, you don't need to lower brightness at all. Right is exactly what the game looks like if you fired it up right now on any emulator with raw output. Left is a shader. In the original picture, the LCD shot is also being captured off-screen, rather than taking a proper screenshot. It's a dishonest meme image.

>>6994251
Then just a shader to get rid of the jaggies

>>6994050
>>6994192
Left look like a picture of an actual CRT would look like.
In person a CRT doesn't look like that at all. That's were CRT filter in emulator always fail. They simulate the look of CRT pictures, which are never accurate to IRL.

>>6994370
It depends on the camera, the settings, and how lucky you get with the shot. For example, this one looks exactly like it does in person, at least when viewed on my current display.

>>6994380
While this one, same camera, same screen, same game, taken within seconds of the other shot, is washed out and blue, and not representative of what the screen really looks like. Amateur CRT photography is hard.

>>6994043
Unironically looks comfy. Fuck zoomer shit filters

>>6994050
Exactly. CRTs have much sharper images than this. You'll never be able to create the feel because of the curvature of the screen.

>>6994404
Curvature isn't a positive trait. I love my CRTs, but if I could magic them into flat CRTs without geometry issues, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

>>6994397
CRT > "zoomer filters" > "original"

>>6994421
Which one?

>>6994449
2, 4, and 6 are ok. 3 would be too without the curvature. Rest are bad.

>>6994449
Third from right

>>6994449
2 and 4 look best to me.

>>6994380
"prt sc"

>>6994397
Those filters are pure cancer.

>>6994449
4

>>6994397
I don't understand why people like the smooth filters. They look fucking horrible in my opinion

>>6995212
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>>6995225
>>6994421

Still living rent free in OP’s head
warosu.org/vr/thread/S5855419#p5855870

>>6994043
beautiful

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>>6997249
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>>6997261
you might want to try correcting your resolution to integer scale before using shaders anon

>>6997261

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>>6997263
I love shaders, but this looks like shit, and that fucked up resolution making all of the scanlines uneven certainly isn't helping.

>>6994043
NO thanks

>>6997263
this is the only acceptable one.
curvature is a bad meme and something nobody wanted even back in the day, that's why flat crt's were invented.

>>6998341
wow, crt's are really a game changer

>>6995513
you don't even understand how a television works

>>6998341
kek

>op so assmad about a pro-dither post he has to seethe an anti-dither topic into existence.

>>6995209
>printscreen a crt
300 IQ

>>6997263
isn't this still going to look like shit when it's in motion on an lcd?

>>6997263
You need to integer scale that mess.
>but anon, then it's too small
We can bump it up to the next highest integer, which for 1080p, is x5, or 1600x1200. We lose 60 rows of pixels from the top, and 60 from the bottom, for a total of 10%, which is within overscan, so that's perfectly fine. That brings us from 1280x960 to 1600x1080, which is a whopping 40% larger image. Pretty neat, right?
>>7000561
Potentially, depends on your screen and how far away you're sitting.

>>7000585
Here's a nice little size comparison to see how much bigger the screenspace is when go from 4x to 5x on the PS1, and how we can still do so even on 1080p screens.

>>6998341
damn..........

i have seen how the 240p looks, and i like it, but as someone who does like the genesis, it annoys me to see undithered images,

i am looking into an emulation option for a Crt i have to make it 240p enabled, but it does seem to me 240p is not friendly to the genesis, or systems with low color counts, so is there any compromise i could take in this scenario?

looks good enough, what this guy says is more important >>7000585

>>6994192
I emulate all the time, and still think the left looks unbelievably better. Sorry dood.

>>6994449
one for this sprite at least.

>>6994449
No. 2 starting from left is the best but still needs less halation.
No. 4 is also good and is what you're shooting for with RGB.
No. 1 has 2000s emulator soul so I feel a certain appeal for it too.

No. 3 is overkill and clueless-zoomer-tier.
No. 5 is just garbage.
No. 6 is an insult.

>>7003171
Left is a custom shader stack with an emulator, anon. The point is that in the original photo, the LCD side is made to look much worse than it really is.

>>6994067
>RF
>Radical Fidelity