/vr/ - Retro Games

Playing through prime for the first time right now and and its pretty good. I'm only 20% through it right now though.

Thardus just finished raping me with his 10ft granite dick so I'm taking a break. Gonna come back to it tonight.

Prime 1 is better, but Prime 2 is also solid.

You know, for some reason, that while prime 1 uses more typical metroid locations, I still feel more in awe of its locations that prime 2's.

Not very good

>>6977051
Both are shit compared to Super.
>lock-on aiming in an FPS
LMAO. Fuck casuals.

I honestly think Prime 2 is the better game. I felt like the overworld flows better and gets you to where you need to be more efficiently, although this does result in the game being a bit more linear at times.

Prime 2 had some amazing OST and locations, truly alien and unique to the new race established in the game. Also I feel the combat in Prime 2 was better done and the boss fights are super memorable, like the Chykka fight or Quadraxis. Right now I'm just playing through Prime 1 on retroarch, it's still fun all these years later.

>>6977051

Definitely 1

>>6977131
I would agree with that, actually. Prime 2's environments are really great.

>>6977051
Really slow, artifact hunt kills motivation and forward momentum in prime. Combat can be very tedious. Not sure why some people rate them so highly.

>>6977140
>>lock-on aiming in an FPS
Yeah, because it's on a console. What's the problem? Not very convenient aiming with a controller you know

>>6977176
He probably never even played it if he thinks the lock-on is that essential for the combat. Anyone who's played Prime knows it works really well with the game and the game is more focused around exploration anyhow.

>>6977140
>FPS
FPA retard
Prime isn't a level-by-level corridor shooter

>>6977143
Prime 2 had the best bosses
i'll never forget how hype Quadraxis was on meet.

>>6977292
Spider ball boss made me so damned mad. I can only beat it either drunk or hung over. I guess I have timing issues.

>>6977051
Prime 1 was impossible for me to get through despite me trying twice. Ended up using a walkthrough for the entire thing, just so I could get 100%.

>>6977719
Because Metroid games are impossible to 100% without a guide

>>6977740
>>6977719
bait

>>6977742
Listen, I don't know about Prime but Fusion and Zero Mission have some items that are literally impossible to find on your own

Lol someone is butthurt
>>6977789

>>6977803
But Metroid Prime is one of the best 3D exploration games though

>>6977751
Prime has a sound effect when you're close to an item. It's really not hard to 100% it.

>>6977051
I actually just got a copy off ebay cause I was itching for some more 6th gen sci-fi FPS. I finished Republic Commando not too long ago and was hoping this could fill the hole. Anyone whose played both know how similar they are?

I find interesting how the games were praised, sold well but no one talks about them.

>>6977051
The artifact hunt was kind of bullshit. It took me forever to beat 1.

In contrast, I beat 2 in a single weekend and had a great time doing it.

>>6977993
Not very similar. Prime tends to be more about holding a lockon button and focusing on movement/dodging. Much more verticality too. If you want a more conventional FPS experience and have a decent computer look into Primehack. Adds mouse and keyboard / mouselook support to the Trilogy release on wii and is my prefered way to play the series nowadays. Either way though hope you have fun with it anon

>>6977140
Well yeah, shooters are unplayable on consoles without some pretty heavy aim assist. The best FPS that were built from the ground up with consoles in mind, TimeSplitters series for example, utilize a generous aim assist system combined with shots hitstunning enemies, and it feels pretty great.

Is that more casual than something like Operation Flashpoint with a mouse and keyboard? Sure, but that doesn't mean it's bad, it's just different.

>>6977993
>republic commando
Awful game, 4/10 at best. Go play Jedi Knight 2 and Red Faction for some non-terrible 6th gen scifi fps.

>>6977140
>He thinks combat is the focus of metroid
>Mentions super randomly for teh internet cred
I've never spotted a zoomer so quickly in my life.

https://youtu.be/zkdoJcRHwmQ

I believe 1 has a better world map and 2 has better enemies and fights.
Both had amazing scenery.

>>6977167
I played MP1 recently for the first time in years and there were only two artifacts for me to find at the end of the game. It meshes great with the scaling of your powerups as you play the game normally, I don't get why people treat it like a keyhunt on the level of Dark Ing or the actual keys in 3.

>>6977051
They're both great but uhh I guess I like 1 slightly more?

>>6979310
I really love torvus bog visually. Especially that one room that's kind of like a sewer.
The underchambers of torvus aren't that great though

>>6977051
The problems with Prime are minor, but they exist.
Prime 1 has too many rooms with unavoidable combat. Those Chozo ghosts and troopers that constantly respawn are the worst, and make exploring grating sometimes. Not to mention, the choke point connecting where you're forced to move through Magmoor Caverns multiple times in back tracking just, in retrospect, feels pretty bad and kills some flow.
Prime 2 does feel better in this regard, though the dark world movement is a cool mechanic, it doesn't feel great until you get the light suit. Prime 2 in general is a harder game, the world is more coherent to explore and has better world design. Some might find it too hard and frustrating though. Prime 2 is close to being perfect, Prime 1 isn't far behind. Prime 3 is fun, and has good ideas, but is the weakest in some regards.

>>6979907
In prime 2 opening and closing gates constantly feels way more exhausting, personally

Metroid Prime 1/2 are both in the top ten greatest games ever made. If Prime 4 is even half as good I'll be satisfied (though disappointed)

>>6977140
the irony of this post is super is a easier than prime and A LOT easier than prime 2. Not fps btw

>>6979907
>Prime 2 is close to being perfect
I actually think Prime 2 is more flawed than prime 1/3 but it's my favorite game of all time. The highs more than make up for the flaws in my eyes, Prime 2 just does so many things as "the best" in the metroid series

>>6980003
Prime 1 and Super are equal in terms of difficulty. But yeah Prime 2 is the hardest Metroid game

>>6977051
They're about as good as Super Metroid, but not quite as good as Metroid 1

>>6977051
Playing through Prime for the first time, having had little experience with PC FPS games with similar level of graphics, it was a mind-blowing experience. Felt like a game from the future.

>>6977468
Fucking faggot.

>>6977051
1

>>6977051
Prime 2 just hits different

>>6980185
Do you draw maps when playing Metroid?

>>6980185
Metroid 1 will always be the best for me. Top 3 Famicom games for sure

>>6978992
I've played both and Republic Commando is way better. There is no reason to play Jedi Knight 2 since Jedi Academy exists, no one wants to play a DOOM clone for half a game only to get inferior lightsaber combat when compared to JA. Republic Commando also has way better characterization and set pieces.

>>6980840
>I've played both and Republic Commando is way better
It's not. It's a bottom-tier brainless corridor shooter with criminally awful gunplay.
>There is no reason to play Jedi Knight 2 since Jedi Academy exists
Nobody who has played both would say that, I guarantee you're getting your opinions from youtubers, rather than first hand experience.
>no one wants to play a DOOM clone for half a game
>jedi outcast is a doom clone
Yeah, there's no way you've actually played any of these games.

>>6980337
100% agreed

>>6980840
>There is no reason to play Jedi Knight 2 since Jedi Academy exists
I fucking hate this logic and the fact that it's so common. Like you're only ever allowed to play the very peak of a genre and everything else is worthless dog shit.
Like how boring do you have to be to not enjoy a bunch of varying quality stuff in your hobby. It would be like claiming a single movie was the best ever and never watching any other and shitting on someone for doing the same. It's stupid.

>>6980853
Fuck you for making get out my physical copy, faggot.
>>6980867
I meant it more from a gameplay perspective, if I'm in the mood for lightsaber slashy shit and I don't have a JKII save set up then I'll just start a new JA game. Obviously if I'm in the mood to play JKII usually for nostalgia or story purposes then I'll boot it up. I'm not saying there is no reason to play any other Star Wars games, they all have they're merits but I just prefer JA over JKII.

>>6980934
Where's your copy of Jedi Outcast, zoomer? The one you claimed was, and I quote, a "doom clone"?

>>6977131
Yerah, Prime 2's world was more cohesive, IMO. Prime 1 was more varied, but each location theme felt like a box tick more than anything.

>>6980214
>inane shitposting
no u

>>6980936
back of my closet, nigger.

>>6980185
oh boy, i sure love copy pasted rooms
the Metroid 1 equivalent would be the prequel to MP2 (Hunters' single player)

>>6980468
I started doing that the first time I played, because everyone suggested it, but it became tedious after about 5 minutes and I just remembered the areas as best I could. It turned out to be one of the best games I've ever played

>>6977051
Poor man's Halo, people just like it because Nintendo

>>6981619
>Poor man's Halo,
nobody's talking about Star Fox Assault here.

>>6977051
I desperately want an HD port on Switch. The Wii U one forced you to use motion controls which is dumb. Let me have options.

>>6981619
Metroid Prime plays nothing like Halo, though.

>>6982073
no, you see metroid is a rip off of halo because samus has the same armor as master chief

Serious Samus

And if you think that joke was bad, I refer to Simpsons: Hit & Run as "Grand Theft Otto"

>>6982605
You win the internet today, stranger!

>>6982589
>>6981619
kys

>>6981637
>nobody's talking about Star Fox Assault here.
But I love that game

Think I might use a guide and 100% these on Wii.

>>6977051
They're very high quality games, I love listening to soundtracks while playing them. The game is repetitious, but the scenery and smoothness of control makes me forgive it.

I beat the original, but I got stuck in Echoes and had to walk.

>>6977051
not retro

>>6977051
Echoes is worse than Prime, I didn't like the dual universe thing, but both are pretty good games.

No retro, but I think that Prime 3 was a huge let down.

>>6977993
I've played this. They are not similar at all. Even though I really liked Republic Commando, it is more linear, more like old FPS.