/vr/ - Retro Games

I meant is considered Retro
Made a typo

Terrible library just by the numbers, but there’s still plenty of good games for it. The gba is probably the best handheld I’ve ever used though, and definitely the high water mark for nintendo’s portable consoles. All their other stuff has those sharp edges and rectangle design that is hard for adult hands to use.

>>6965417
Plus, the screen just looks so good sitting outside in the sun

Is psp, and nds retro now? they came out before 2007

I honestly don't think I've ever played a GBA game and been like "this is a good game". It has a large library of mediocre, playable games. Even the ports of good games to the GBA somehow just ended up being meh.

Also, something about the art style used in so many GBA games, they just look hideous to me. You know what I mean, that Golden Sun look.

>>6965450
Have you played wario land 4? It’s like the only one I’ve played but I am stunned by how good of a game it is. The only downside is it’s rather easy, but there is a hard mode I haven’t played yet. It’s got this level based metroidvania feel I don’t think I’ve ever seen replicated anywhere else

>>6965450
>Also, something about the art style used in so many GBA games, they just look hideous to me. You know what I mean, that Golden Sun look.

about 2/3rds of the library are just 3d models rendered at low resolution to "look like" sprite work and then ultra saturated because the screen was shit

>>6965412
1. GB/C
2. DS
*power gap*
3. GBA
*power canyon*
4. I'm not sure, Vita maybe?

I think it's a great system, that gets underappreciated because people just look at all the remakes, ports and models and are dismissive of a truly fantastc library of original games. It's kinda like the Wii in that regard, a sales juggernaut that people don't give the credit it's due.

Its defiantly 10 times better than the DS

>>6965414
No you're right, on /vr/ it's not a retro console, it's an "allowed" console.

>>6965412
Most of the really good games were ports. People praise it because it was the last bastion of AAA spritework, but most of it was shit.

It came out after 2D "died" and before it started to come back, so devs didn't take it seriously and treated it as a dumping ground for the "grandma goes birthday shopping" market, barely-functional ports, and copy-pasted franchise sequels. Trash like Mortal Kombat Advance or the Earthworm Jim port etc etc never would have happened on a real console, there was no quality control at all. Being 2D was considered shit and obsolete, so lots of games tried to LARP as 3D with horrible prerendered graphics. It has Nincels' favorite 3rd party franchises like Mega Man and Castlevania, but those are still pretty much thrown-together-in-15-minutes soulless trash that pale compared to the real entries in those series. It's not just a matter of having a retarded trash-to-quality ratio, even the "good" games are mediocre, and the four or five ports that weren't half-assed still have shitty screen resolution and sound quality.

Also, it's not retro.

Not a bad library! Great Pokémon games (plus a sequel to my favorite Pokémon spinoff that has seemingly been forgotten, Pinball), plus many other good platformers and RPGs.

I will say that the original GBA model's screen kinda sucked, but it did look good in sunny areas.

>>6965412
It was almost a perfect 16-bit console

>if only it had a better sound chip
>if only it have a slightly higher resolution
>if only it had two more buttons
>if only it released with backlighting

it could have been better

>>6965467
Sprites based on 3d models go back to the mid 90s, dude. They look great as long as the source material looks great. Tons of sick looking games like DKC, Diablo, and Icewind Dale use the method.

>>6966346
>>if only it had a better soundchip
The GBA doesn't have a soundchip, bro. The sound is processed by the CPU.

>>6965412
I pop in a flash cart and play NES games on it
some of the few games now compatible with the usual emulator include pinbot and all fds games, just fyi

>>6966361
whatever, the sound was shit.

>>6966346
the sound is really what kills it IMO, i could live with everything else. the GBC literally sounds better

>>6965849
Seethe harder boomerbitch. Crysis is retro

I've never dived into it. I picked one up to play a couple of SNES ports because the concept of portable SNES was cool. Some ports were great, like Rock and Roll Racing. Some ports were OK, like the Final Fantasy games. And Mario World was so bad I returned it. Whoever thought adding voice clips to that game was acceptable should have been fired.

>>6966357
>Sprites based on 3d models go back to the mid 90s
they weren't the norm like on the GBA
>They look great as long as the source material looks great
objectively false, they can look passable, they usually look like ass (see: the entire GBA library)

>>6966397
>they weren't the norm like on the GBA

Basically every PC game I grew up with used them, I'd say they were the norm.

>>6966390
The only GBA game with good music is Mother 3.

Lots of great games. No idea why people dismiss it.

>>6965412
There was this tactical turn based mecha game i played when i used to own one. I think it had anime style character portraits, any idea what this game was?

>>6966390
For what it was
I still think it had some decent sounding OSTs

Of course there were a bunch of abysmal sounding ones too

But I think it still had mostly decent sounding OSTs

Not amazing or anything but decent atleast

>>6966434
It's probably Zone of the Enders: The Fist of Mars or one of the localized Super Robot Taisen games.

>>6965450
Minsh Cap, FFTA, Metroid, Castlevanias, Pokemans, all solid titles off the top of my head all that are way above being "good".

>>6965412
A lot of the games on GBA were garbage, honestly. I remember the Crash games (barring Crash Purple) being pretty decent, though.

>>6965412
Ninja Cop is the only game worth playing on this otherwise worthless piece of shit.

>>6965450
Superstar Saga, Avatar 1 and 2, Drill dozer, Megaman Zero series, DBZ legacy of goku2/ buu's fury/ supersonic warriors, just off the top of my head for games that look good and play well too. The GBA had great titles, shit like the golden sun uglyshit was the exception, not the norm.

>>6965849
Jesus Christ the pity I feel for tards like you that get this riled up over such an issue. Is it worth it?

>>6966114
>Cherry picks examples of 3d games and pretends all devs tried that
>Calls Megaman Zero and GBA Castlevania soulless
>Conveniently forgets Fire Emblem, FF Tactics, Advance Wars, Superstar saga, and the truckload of great titles that were made with soul
All of that just to make the HURR DURR nOt ReTrO shitpost. What's it like being a boomer that spergs out over games like a toddler?

>>6965412
if it had two more buttons it would have been the greatest handheld of all time. If only for the SNES ports.
I'm not super familiar with the GB/C or DS but I think the originals were also outstanding on this one and idk how well the other handhelds hold up.
>Advance wars
>Golden Sun
>Wario Ware
>Mario & Luigi: Superstar saga
>Metroid Fusion

And that's not even taking into account the japanese exclusives like Mother3 and Phoenix Wright trilogy

I never owned the GBA itself, I played my games through the DS, so I remember when I tried out a friends' OG model GBA for the first time, I was a bit surprised that it was like the GB/GBC and lacked a backlight. Years later and I still want to know what the hell they were thinking? The GB Light came out 3 years before, and the Game Gear and Lynx were around 10 years old at the time of the GBAs release. It was the next generation of handheld gaming, there was no excuse for the lack of it. Even with the SP model that came out a few years later, devs still had to accommodate those with the OG model and brighten up the colors to the point where some games looked pastel.
The console's library was mostly shovelware, like most libraries, but it did have some pretty fun games
>Mario Advance ports
>Zelda Minish Cap
>Kirby Nightmare In Dreamland and Magic Mirror
>Metroid Zero Mission and Fusion
>Mario and Luigi: Super Star Saga
>Mario Kart Super Circuit
>Mario vs. Donkey Kong
>Donkey Kong King of Swing
>Pokemon RSE and FRLG
>Pokemon Mystery Dungeon
>Sonic Advance Trilogy
>Sonic Battle
>Wario Land 4
>Warioware and Warioware Twisted
>Mother 3
>Advance Wars
>Spyro Season trilogy
>Crash Huge Adventure and N-Tranced
>Harvest Moon: Friends of Mineral Town
>MegaMan Battle Network series
>Starfy 1-3
>Klonoa: Empire of Dreams
>Banjo-Kazooie Grunty's Revenge

>>6966996
Nintendo makes a profit on their handhelds, that is why they are still in business. Backlight was expensive and not yet expected by consumers, so they didn't include it. No one gave a shit back then. Gameboy was nearly impossible to see without proper lighting, and Gamegear was nearly impossible to see under any condition.

>>6966960
>What's it like being a boomer that spergs out over games like a toddler?
What's upsetting you little buddy?

>>6966693
>Ninja Cop is the only game worth playing on this otherwise worthless piece of shit.
Correct

GBA has a worse library than the Virtual Boy lmao

>>6966996
>tfw we will never get Green Pepper Adventure

>>6965412
YUGIOH DICE MONSTERS BAYBEEEEE

>>6966996
>I still want to know what the hell they were thinking?
probably cost related. idk how it works but maybe they couldn't include a backlight with the current tech at a price that would work for the customer at that point.
It also could be that the backlight was too power hungry and it would eat through batteries too quickly. That might be why they first included it with the recharchable model.
Or they just intentionally specced it low because they know nintenkiddies will buy anything new they come up with. So better to sell one customer 2 different GBAs instead of 1.

>>6965462
Wario land 4 is incredible and is my favorite game. Very excited for Pizza Tower, looks quite WL4esque.

there's some cool stuff on gba, lots of trash but I guess that's every console

>>6967054
>Wario land 4 is incredible and is my favorite game.
VB Wario Land is much better, though.

>>6967156
2 and 3 and even Shake It are also better. 4 is overrated as hell.

>>6965412
pure shovelware

>>6966390
I mean skme gba games have great tunes but thats mostly nintendos own shit like pokeymans and fire emblem

>>6967156
>>6967174
based contrarian boomer

>>6967349
Not even a boomer. I loved all the other WL games and was excited to try 4 after all the praise that'd been heaped on it.

What a disappointment. The artsyle changed from stylish to grotesque and ugly and the music changed from catchy and melodic to random noise. I also hated having to repeat a level because I missed one short chance to get an item, e.g. the CD in the Mysterious Factory. It would've been much better if they'd put a checkpoint by the frog statue like Shake It did.

>>6967349
>if I call them a contrarian, I automatically win the argument!
Sorry zoomlet, but your childhood sucked. 4 is both a worse action-oriented WL than 1 and VB and a worse collectathon than WL2 and WL3.

>>6967261
and it is good.

>>6965450
Try MMBN 2,3,5 and 6, Mother 3 is also really good

>>6966434
Super Robot Taisen Original Generation.

The games are fine but outside of a handful they're very simple and only good by handheld standards

>>6966419
Wario 4 and metroid 4's music sounded great

>>6965412
it's library was great

6967537
kys and negated

>>6967151
Of course that's every console. Same thing for movies and books. You don't just like everything or you're an extreme retard.

>this music
Original:
https://youtu.be/_Xw0UGahoFU
GBA:
https://youtu.be/UefXg304ezk

>>6965469
people dont give credit circle of the moon for what it did because it didnt compare to SotN, but for what it was, it was quite good if a bit humble, HoD tried to be GBA's SotN and it ended it just being discount SotN, and it suffer a lot from it, but Aria of Sorrow was pretty damn good, they finally nailed it with the 3rd one.

In fairness, what hurts HoD was the bright saturation, but with shaders, and contrast/brightness correction it does look decent.

>>6968892
>filename
>eurasia
almost as bad as that retard Rocket Robz with the shitty intros.

>>6965420
No they came out after 2001

>>6966357
I honestly hate DKC and Mario RPG's artstyle because it looks like shitty claymation.

>>6969028
claymation is based, retard.

>>6966960
anyone who says the word incel is automatically a woman or a jew, either way that precludes them being a boomer.

>>6966419
Ahem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NunWagO59c8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StKF7JYPfJE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xET8DT0Cy7w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnPmafeR3xE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxFWgilSyAE&list=PL5312754A0D082327&index=23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9nfoC5r6x0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPRQeUN67ig

>>6966114
Mega Man Zero and Battle Network are both great series that BTFO anything on the dinky, shitty little OG Game Boy.

>>6965414
Freudian slip

>>6965412
If I play emulated games on my GBA with the PocketNES emulator as example, will the sound be digital or analog?

>>6966693
Let me guess, that was the only game you've played on GBA?

>>6965412
I have an SP and about 19 games, and overall I like those 19 games. I know that half of the library is just crappy shovelware (like every other console), but it does have plenty of good games, but perhaps not everyone is going to agree with that.
My favorites were the 2 Kirby games on there, the Densetsu no Stafy trilogy, Mario vs. Donkey Kong, any Bomberman game on there (well, mostly Tournament, but also the first Jetters title), the Mario Advance series (mostly Advance 3 and 4 though), and Astro Boy: Omega Factor.

>>6969581
>Densetsu no Stafy trilogy
Do you need to know some japanese to finish them? Because I know there's no translations.

>>6969592
Not really. I imported them between 7-9 years ago, and they're pretty straightforward platformers. There were some parts, especially in 2, there were trial and error. Like sometimes I forgot to talk to a certain NPC or forgot to do something, but I managed to 100% all three titles. I heard there is a fan-translation for 1, but that's it for now. You definitely need a guide for 4 (on DS) if you ever play that one, especially the post-game.

>>6965412
>What is your general opinion on it and its library?
the greatest handeld of all time, since we're at it play:
-super robot wars : OG
-fire pro wrestling advance
-dragon ball advanced adventure

>>6968997
>people bitching about this
I felt respect towards them and tipped my fedora every time I saw an intro.

Most of the time anyway. Some got salty and told off people for removing intros within the very gba intros.....

>>6965412
Rather than say library is okay I'll shitpost this image that includes most of the gba games I'm playing off and on. I've added to it though. This is just from my psx2's flash drive, unzipped so I can easily search the extension to make the list easily captured without manually clicking through hundreds of compressed files to see their extension nor having to remember which is which system, as some are flash back things with the gba after..... but yes, this is most of the ones I have, but not all, downloaded and ready to play off and on. Some anon told me oriental blue is there, I also recently started playing buldar's gate, etc, not all are there. Some I'm downloading I'm hating, such as the gba's wing commander, it's music makes me want to die. They knew this however, you can turn it off.

>>6965420
>>6969013
It's not about the date, it's about the gen and the date. Both at the same time. Psp is gen 7, too new. Gen 6 is retro now, as is gba gen 6.