/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
500ml of /vr/ (for Blood)
Deadline: November 10th
Rules: >>6956801
MAPEDIT: https://archive.org/details/BloodMapedit
Discord: https://discord.gg/NfFP9Pu

=== NEWS ===

[10-4]Anons hacks Vanilla Doom with Infinite possibilities!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XId_kyCx3xw

[10-2]Quakewulf releases Reservoir Stroggs for Quake II
http://quakeulf.suxos.org/3d/maps/prepare.zip

[10-1]DWELL: 10 map episode for Q1 was released
https://www.quaddicted.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=781

[10-1]DBP-28: Fear and Loathing released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/117191-dbp28-fear-and-loathing/

[9-30]Trenchbroom updated to version v2020.2
https://github.com/TrenchBroom/TrenchBroom/releases/tag/v2020.2

[9-26] Arcane Dimensions 1.8 to include monster randomizer for vanilla
https://twitter.com/SimsOCallaghan/status/1308441372895178758

[9-24] Sigma-X demo released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/113488-sigma-x-5-maps-demo-version-is-out/

[9-23] Aleph One 1.3 released
https://github.com/Aleph-One-Marathon/alephone/releases/tag/release-20200830

[9-22] UT patch v469a released
https://github.com/OldUnreal/UnrealTournamentPatches/releases/tag/v469a

[9-22] Supplice is going standalone
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/2191397

[9-22] REKKR released for Bethesda ports (marking the first TC for them)
https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/en/article/6DwHg8z3MyajHvx0rVmsEi

[9-21] Microsoft acquires Zenimax (including Bethesda & id)
https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/09/21/welcoming-bethesda-to-the-xbox-family/

[9-21] Woof! 2.3.0 released
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/releases/

[9-21] Doom II: 25 Years on Earth: One Year Late edition has been uploaded to idgames
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/ph_25yoe

[9-21] New Arcane Dimensions version teased.
https://twitter.com/BafuBal/status/1307445748401876992

=== PREVIOUS ===

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>>6957275
Im making this for Blood anon as backup!

======= 500ml of /vr/ Rules =======
* The project will officially begin on September 10th 2020

* No restrictions on theme or level size, just make sure it’s achievable by the deadline.

* This project will use the “Blood Texture Pack v03 Beta”, you can find it here http://blood.freeminded.de/index.php?section=misc&id=593
or in the MAPEDIT archive https://archive.org/details/BloodMapedit

* Custom MIDI’s are allowed and encouraged, submit them in a .zip along with your map file.

* If you want custom messages in the .ini, put a text document in your submitted .zip file with the order of your messages and details on when you want them to appear. Example: (Message1 “A clever and witty message”, shown after the player picks up the skull key)

* Submit your maps link here or on the discord channel. Be sure to specify it’s for 450ml, along with your maps title and author name. MIDI and messages are optional.

* Make sure your submitted map is beatable in Nblood and Build Gdx

* Map’s must be submitted by November 10th 2020, Try to make them beatable by Halloween.

*Have fun and be sure to share your progress screenshots with everyone :)
===============================

Is the compendium map compilation any good? reading the zdoom thread and it says there are many bugs in many levels,will it work on Zdoom and LZdoom?

nice general faggot tranny

what source port to use for shadow warrior?

Romero is a bitch

>>6957302
correct. it is nice.

>>6957309
based paul
>and kick your ass back into the Doom days where you wish you were
and true to this day

>>6957309
And yet Romero is more relevant today than Carmack. Exactly what Carmack is doing these days anyway?

>>6957329
Some VR... stuff?

>>6957320
Yet Paul Steed is dead.

>>6957337
Nah, it's some AI (???) stuff. He stepped down from VR... stuff year ago. And before that there were some rockets I dunno.

>>6957359
So VR went nowhere and he still made millions probably and is going to take AI nowhere and make more millions.

Scam genius.

>>6957304
I use BuildGDX, I'm not sure how faithful it is to vanilla SW tho

>>6957304
From what i read, BuildGDX.

>>6957329
Whatever he wants. He seems perfectly happy to be tinkering away at his interests. Nothing wrong with that.
Romero is tinkering away at a gangster xcom type game. It looks kinda neat.
They're both just kinda playing around. One publicly, as he does. And the other privately... As he does.

>>6957349
Anyone know how? I'm not sure I ever knew, or of it was known.

The unity port is actually pretty good. My only complaint is that theres no option for 35 fps.
Its become my go-to for classic mods over crispy doom.

>>6957419
>classic mods
How do you do, fellow kid?

>>6957426
?

I was able to get custom episode names. Other than code cleanup, I think I'm done for now.

>>6957426
Jesus Christ, just let somebody enjoy Unity Doom for once without being a stupid prick about it

>>6957407
It was probably Tim Willits' fault somehow.

>>6957407
no one knows, possibly he had cancer and kept it hidden over the years.
https://www.destructoid.com/stories/paul-steed-of-wing-commander-and-quake-has-died-232928.phtml
even RSI has a page paying homage to him.

>>6957426
Fuck off Alf

>>6957309
>.plan wars
I have always wanted to read these. Romero has tweeted about .plan files before and said Blue's News has them going back to the 90s. A quick google search shows this one from 2000: https://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/finger.pl?id=151 but the .plan wars would've been earlier. I also see some in the results for some from '97 on a site dk.toastednet.org but it doesn't seem to load for me.

Anyone know where we can read old .plan files from Carmack and Romero or even these fabled .plan wars specifically?

Some scribbles of System Shock 1 weapons.

>>6957687
neat stuff

>>6957301
use sentinels lexicon, compendium is pretty much abandoned even though there were cool plans for it

>>6957687
The weapons roster in SS1 was so good, shame the guns in SS2 were so shitty there was no reason not to use Psi powers.

>No one has made a Ultra Violence+ skill mod to mimic the settings found in the Unity port
It's times like these that I wish I wasn't a wagie and I had the brain power to fucking program.

>>6957778
-fast -solo-net

>>6957765
The assault rifle in SS2 was pretty okay but I was really disappointed in how all the weapons felt in general. At least the wrench and crystal felt kinda satisfying to use.

>>6957782
Holy shit I wasn't aware of -solo-net, thanks Anon!

ayo anybody got that source port for the source ports?

>>6957446
is it possible to get them in a similar large font to doom 1s episode select? or would that require custom images be made?

>>6957863
I think custom images. Even though Eviternity doesn't work fully, if you load it up and use the custom episode parameters, it loads up it's included chapter names. I'd say dig into the Eviternity wad to see how it does it.

dark forces source port when?

>>6957883
There was Dark XL. Not sure what happened to it though.

>>6957883
November https://theforceengine.github.io/2020/09/06/TFE-Renderer-Design.html

>>6957885
it still works but the single player is still buggy
just wait for TFE

>>6957329
Romero is more in the public eye but the things Carmack is doing are going to have much farther reach; even if the VR meme never takes off for gaming I'm sure the technological leap will have positive effects elsewhere.

>>6957419
What's the advantage? I see how Unity Doom has improved from launch and it seems pretty alright but I'm not sure what it has over Crispy.

don't do what cyberdemon says

>>6957863
>>6957872
I've looked into it. The BFG Edition stores the episode graphics as M_EPI#. If you were to use a font image generator, you could likely make wad patches to add in the graphics for up to 6 episodes.

>>6957957
Here it is using Doom Writer for custom episode graphics.

>>6957268
Why did everybody shit on Halo series back then?
Reminds me a lot of Unreal 1/2 (Not UT).

>>6957932
Go back to your gore porn, anon.

I'm going to play every wad ever made since 94 for Doom/Doom 2
>Ultra Violence
>Saving only in the beginning of each stage
>Pistol starting
Wish me luck!

Remember that Tom is the TRUE king of Doom and made the best maps with his pal sandy.

E2M2 and E2M7 > E1

>>6958145
finally we can get a true, exhaustive top 10 greatest WADs ever made list

>Optimizing a PNG for a "\" frame will result in the offsets for the image being deleted.

Why do people use this dumpster fire again?

>>6958192
If youve found a bug just report it instead of whining here.

>>6958048
Because, despite what Alf is telling you, this is the actual franchise that ruined FPS genre, along with Call of Duty (and no, CoD was trash from the beginning). Also, while I generally have fond memories of first Halo, due to the soundtrack and those really impressive outdoors sections, but jesus fucking christ, at one level you go through the same copypasted room like hundred or so times.

>>6958298
it's not like halo MADE devs copy its formula nonstop for years, blame the industry's greed for that

>>6958307
Nah, it just opened floodgates. Get it? Get it? There's Flood in the game - like, flood, floodgates. It's a pun, basically. They found a way to dumb an FPS down to make it playable, Call of Duty found a way to dumb it down even further, and then everyone ditched PC because durr piracy hurr exclusivity contract money, until they crawled back like battered whores when Our Rotund Lord Gaben made PC market profitable again.

If I update my Trenchbroom, will any of my settings reset or my projects break?

>>6958046
Unfortunately, had to reduce the custom episode count to 5 due to graphical issues when autoloading Sigil. Ah, well.

>>6957778
>>6957782
What's the difference? Fast monsters that don't respawn? Is that it?

>>6957782
>>6957778
What's UV+ and what's -solo-net?

Reworked the recoil frame and added another frame inbetween. Now it looks like the choppy Doom pistol and not as snappy as before.
How many frames should a pistol animation have, anyway? Canonically, the Lawgiver doesn't have a slide and on top of that a recoil compensation system, so there shouldn't be much movement anyway. Maybe a slight push backwards? Not sure.

>>6958425
>Maybe a slight push backwards?
If you can make it look good.

>>6958425
Looks great to me. Much better. Better scale, much better colour. Even the little light reflection on the curve their.

Mwah! *Chef kiss*

Can we see the full thing with ammo change? Can you also release what you got so far so I can fuck around in some maps with the weapon?

>>6958331
probably not, unless you've done some edits to the base game configs (i.e. actively digged in its files)

>>6957957
>>6958046
Looks fantastic.

>>6958145
I've tried this... And I suggest that you don't. There's a LOT of bad wads out there, especially from the 90's, back before the good level editors came out. Like, really, horrible wads that'll make you lose the will to continue with anything doom related.

If anything, it's better to pick and choose the top ten-twenty wads from each year starting at '94, rather than wading waist high through the era of 'Baby's first Doom map' long corridors, single monster, pointless backtracking, missing textured trash.

If you're REALLY determined to play ALL the wads, then don't play the wads in order of worst rated to best, mix it up so you get SOME enjoyment out of the wads and come to appreciate even the modest amount of effort put into some of the 'passable' wads from the '90s.

>>6958427
>If you can make it look good.
Sure if you tell me how lol

>>6958442
Mode change hasn't been reworked yet, although it didn't look as bad as the other sprites anyway.
Yeah, I'll upload it in the evening.

>>6957275
Raven Keep for Q1 released
https://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61953

>>6958559
Good luck running that in Quake.

Why can't they just spin it off into its own thing soon. AD is as much of a Theseus' ship already that it would perhaps be best to venutre into TC and perhaps its fully standalone entity.

>But Wrath
Exactly my point.

>>6958567
runs fine for me. unless you mean within the original engine limits.
like the readme says though, vkQuake has issues with transparency and QSS with performance (apparently), so run it in the regular QS.

>>6958145

not worth it,
99.9% of all early maps just aren't interesting, the monster placement isn't interesting, and the secrets+item placement aren't interesting,

it really doesn't matter if you play them on "i'm too young to die" with cheats, the hardest obstacle is boredom. After the 15th generic techbase with hitscanners placed in 5x5 grids in every room, your eyes will just glaze over. it's just as retarded as someone saying they are going play 100 OBLIGE megawads.

>>6958609
What would you say are some of the best designed levels/wads you've seen?

>>6958145
Does idgames have random function? I think there's some potential in streaming random wads from there, potentially bringing exposure to hidden gems.

>>6958447
I hope so. Thanks.

>>6958559
>QSS has issues
>As does vkQuake
Fucking why? Both QSS and vkQuake let me run it higher than 72 fucking frames jesus christ.

>>6958620
1. Would you be able to come up with the architectural design?
2. Would you be able to come up with the enemy placement?
3. Would you be able to create that kind of progression?

If no to all three, then it's worthy of your time, if you answer yes to that then its 99% likely it's worthy of no one's time, unless you are the creator or of similar level.

>>6958621
It can be modded in.

>>6958559
>wake up
>see this
>mfw

>>6958620
outside of the usual suspects that are in the OP, I would say last year's CzechBox was outstanding (outside of one map they say they made in 12 hours)

>>6958620
10 years of Doom + Cacowards are usually the most accurate place to find the best wads. 2018 should have included Deathless though.

>>6958559
Looks very good. Gonna play this on weekend.

>>6958397
>>6958403
UV+ is a difficulty setting in the Unity port with fast monsters and cooperative-mode monsters so it's even more monsters than UV
>>6958621
Doomed Speed Demos Archive has a twitch channel that streams random demos. This could be a good way to find good wads to play. I just tuned in and it played pc_cp.wad map16 and mayhem18o.wad map10 and both looked great

>>6958693
>>6958621
oh god forgot to link the stream

https://www.twitch.tv/doomspeeddemos

What do you consider the most significant year of Doom's mapping community?

>>6958559
HUH

>>6958781
1996

>>6958781
I'd actually like to say last year, since we got Sigil, Eviternity, Lost Civilization and Ultimate Doom The Way id Did. In addition we actually got 2 great GZDoom mods Hell-Forged and Paradise, which keep the spirit of classic Doom (while using GZDoom only for new weapons and expanded monster roster), which many ZDoom have been failed to do for years.

But in retrospective 2002 seems quite important year. For few years before that it seemed that the whole Doom modding/mapping scene was already dying. Doom didn't yet have it's retrostatus, it was being forgotten while the new shooters of the age were gaining popularity. But 2002 seemed to give new fuel for Doom. We got the still relevant vanilla wads Alien Vendetta and 2002 Doom Odyssey. Modders were starting to experiment with ZDoom and stretching what would be possible to do with Doom, and we got first great ZDoom mappack Dark7 and it's mission pack. On top of that we also got Caverns Of Darkness, the wad with it's own Eternity-based source port.

>>6958827
Both Final Doom wads and both Memento Moris. Good choice.

>>6958831
was Memento Mori 2 made with the coop gimmick as well or was that just 1

>>6958831
>Reviewing the PC version in GameSpot, Jim Varner argued that Final Doom is a waste of money, since it is essentially just a new set of level maps for Doom, and there were already thousands of such maps available to download for free on the internet.

>>6958298
I never understood this meme of "this game killed the genre" that isn't how this stuff works.

>>6957295
Based. Saved.

>>6958874
It's just something somebody said once and it has never gone away.

>>6957304
I have traditionally used SWP; however, the newish VoidSW looks VERY promising.

>>6958871
>Unfortunately, the game that enthralled audiences in 1993 has been surpassed in almost every category by more recent offerings, most notably Duke Nukem 3D and Id's own Quake. Like an aging athlete, the time has come for Doom to hang up its gloves and exit gracefully from the scene.
what a fucking dweeb

Random voodoo thing I just figured out. Can now trigger something on destruction of a barrel.

>>6958871
>>6958884
This would be the same type to give Last of Us 2 a 10/10 today. Let that sink in.

>>6957687
The perspective on the bottom one looks really weird, I think it's the lack of foreshortening.

>>6958903
Gunfire switches cover most of the potential uses for this but it's still interesting. Ancient aliens map 20 does something quite like this where there are two barrels in a room of imps, and when they explode arch-viles teleport in.

>>6959014
Obstructing teleport destination is simple. What I was trying to acheive is to also link voodoo doll activation to it.

>using pic rel
>TNT soundtrack still sounds like ass
what do

>>6958559
hey look, castle skingrad ripoff

>>6959020
Yeah I got that, it just reminded me of that map since it appears there's no way to avoid spawning an enemy or something with this method.

>>6957521
No one eh?

>>6958871
A set of 64 levels, the majority of which are very good. Yeah, the TNT set is a bit scuffed and has some chips and dents, but it's got some great maps in it too.
Comparable ratio to Memento Mori 1&2, in that way.

It's been ages, but I'm feeling that itch to map again. Thing is, I don't remember which editor I used last time, pretty sure it was either doombuilder 2 plain or gzdoombuilder. Now learn there's also doombuilder x, any really big differences between them all?

>>6959097
I think Ultimate Doom Builder is the most up to date one. I'm using it and I am satisfied.

>>6959028
Not have bad taste.

>>6958694
>tune in to stream
>playername: bloodite krypto
>mfw

>>6958298
Man, Halo would have been amazing if the entire game was like the 2nd level where you ride around in a vehicle going from place to place in a giant outdoor landscape. Also needed more enemy and weapon variety. I sometimes think about how Halo would have looked had it come out in 1999 for computers. Most of that stuff was IN THE GAME but they removed it as development went on. Damn near everything they added for every sequel was a working prototype before Xbox

>>6958693
Turns out this mayhem2018o.wad is a good wad for Halloween because of the orange color scheme and new monsters (it was also released Halloween 2018). The gimmick is there is an orange version and a purple version just like Pokemon red/blue, and the intro/intermission screen musics are also different pokemon songs

MAYhem 2019 is also a good .wad for Halloween. It is a Blood-themed megawad that is MBF-compatible (-complevel 11)

>>6959149
That's what they're trying to do with Halo: Infinite. Too little too late.

>>6957282
Much appreciated, your a cool dude.

>>6959093
sure, it was priced as a full game ($55) but it came in an ammunition box. how cool is that?

>>6959231
Ohh that's what the Final Doom cover was supposed to be? A munitions crate? That's pretty cool.

Is there anyone in the world who genuinely liked City of the Damned Apocalypse? I don't know what the fuck it wants to be. Either it wants to be survival horror judging on the weapons and atmosphere, or it wants to be a spookier doom judging on the enemies and their combat.

>>6959231
A sleeper PC with a case like that would be pretty sweet

>>6959231
lol

>>6959279
Yeah, it's a box for holding 25mm cannon shells in linked belts for something like an M242 Bushmaster Chaingun (for Bradley IFVs and probably some helicopters). It says "inert" on the box they used to make the Final Doom box, meaning they were for non-explosive training shells, ergo a solid projectile, or one with a hollow cavity where the explosive payload would have been.

>>6959314
There's lot of torm stuff, that goes overboard with all those gzdoom effects, but has very shallow gameplay. That being said i did sincerely enjoy utnt and the community projects, that he was part of (excluding the shittier maps of zpack).

>>6958298
>>6958298
>>6958307
>>6958320
>>6958874
>>6959149
See, I feel Halo itself feels as if it's misplaced. It wants to do something entirely off the wall, but it's gameplay is limited by Militdude Shooter. Granted, it's a Sci-Fi Militdude, but still.
I picked up the rest of the collection and I've only ever fully played CE on the now-decrepit Gamespy.

>>6957917
Honestly for me I just like the convenience of being able to launch everything from steam, and since the unity engine is just a wrapper for the original engine, its very faithful to the DOS version. The soundrack for doom 1 and 2 is great too, since instead of bare MIDIs they ran the files through the same model of Roland bobby prince used to compose the tracks.
Couch co-op is an added bonus, and it seems like they're going to keep adding mods to the lineup since they just added DEHACKED support. It seems like the nerve team really gives a shit about doom, which is nice to see.

>>6957419
WTF is unity doom?

>mfw GZDoom with a blood fixer mod and a mirrored corpses mod, visuals configured to look as close to Crispy as possible

>>6959491
The bethesda port
If you own doom or doom II on steam, they recently got upgraded to the unity port.

Where's the Judge Dredd nonce? Fix the Lawgiver yet?

>>6959503
So because of brand recognition and human nature this is going to become the NumberOne port isn't it...

>>6959509
it already is

>>6959509
Yeah.

Redpill me on Unity Doom: Can I use it without Steam Doom? Does it have Crispy Doom's mirrored corpses and proper blood? Is it Boom compatible? If yes to all, it is indeed the best Doom.

>>6959523
You have to buy it or pirate it, so I'd say no, I don't know most probably no, and lastly also no.

>>6959545
So it's l i t e r a l l y nothing. Okay.

>>6957268
so when people say that Tim Willits fucked Q2's development over anal bickering they weren't wrong

Here is all of Q2's original Enemies BEFORE the Demo from the manual and magazines,
and the bastards had more polygons and better texture detail, even their faces and shading looks better.
Even the Fucking Maiden's Left Arm's mesh and vertex looks better than the final result.


>>6959523
It is boom decorate compatible, same goes to Eternal's internal source port
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TBiuWtbyz0

>>6959509
Yeah, but as far as Vanilla Doom goes, it's actually a pretty good port (it was atrocious on launch, but they did fix it up).

>>6959551
That's better, but it's still not really a big deal. It pains me that this literal nothing is going to get so much attention when the Crispy/PRBoom mix port is under development.

>>6959551
How the fuck did this Tim guy have so much power? He sounds like a massive tool, how come no one at iD said "fuck off Tim, that's dumb"?

>>6959567
The people that cared probably left.

>>6959567
Silver tongue bastard
he went from beta tester to "executive producer" in less than 3 years

Reminder that he called himself the "inventor of deathmatch" until carmack, hall and romero told him to eat a dick for lying

>>6959509
Yes, but thankfully its actually pretty faithful to the source material. It even mentions stuff like the cacoawards in the descriptions of the "curated add-ons"

>>6959549
>>6959561
They're steadily adding more mod support, from the looks of it bethesdas been giving them a lot more freedom with the port since the doom IP is performing way better than they expected. The moment they introduce network play, im probably going to abandon zandronum because I can't stand GZdoom.
Also remember that their port of Doom64 is literally Doom64EX but polished up, and the guy who made D64EX was hired to do the port for them. I'm cautiously optimistic about their approach to the DOOM community.

>>6959623
I just want working network play, Zandronum is ass

>>6959623
Yeah to be desu this is only a net benefit. Either Unity Doom gets really good, or amateur devs get the fire lit under their ass and begin to improve Zandronum/PRBoom/etc. at an alarming rate.

>>6958442
Alright so here it is. Refer to the Info in the .pk3 for known issues.
And have a look into the controls to remap the needed buttons.
The Judge class can pick up, but not use, any other weapons than the ones they start with (those are illegal firearms wielded by perps, after all).
This should be for now the working version of the Lawgiver; I will now try to finally make a few playable maps.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/co4gbqsy43gba4x/lawgiver_REMASTERED.pk3?dl=0

If you fuck around with it, please give me feedback on playability and such.

>>6959506
Sorry anon, but that joke's kinda gotten old, so read the thread, cunt.

>>6959174
Some pretty cool levels but I hate how Mayhem always has annoying unbalanced custom enemies.
>>6959314
The problem with that wad is that it's non-linear, but you pretty much have to go a certain way because of how resources are doled out. The first playthrough i took one route and it seemed impossibly ammo-starved, but then next playthrough i took another route and it was fine. You cant deny the atmosphere is top-notch though.

>>6959567
Dont trust this poster unconditionally, hes been posting like all day every day about Quake 2 and clearly has a hateboner for Willits.

>>6959682
t. Willits.

>>6959682
I don't even know a thing about him, what the fuck lol
"this poster" as though that wasn't the first post I've ever made about the guy

.
Oh yeah


https://youtu.be/qhUe2wXTnkk


.

>>6959682

>>6959636
Hollenstead isn't fucking around with this one as the release.
MS now probably wants it to be the best port for everything.
if it gets MP support like odamex or zand, i wouldn't be surprised if the next quakecon has a classic doom tournament

>>6959483
They're a bit limited in what mods they can add. Curious if they plan any decorate support, but that I imagine that would be the extent of it.
They'd be fools to not ping the D4V guy.
It ties right in with their community building.

>>6959728
>They'd be fools to not ping the D4V guy.
>It ties right in with their community building.
They removed Snapmapping instead of expanding upon it. Do the math.

Mmm... Consistency.

>>6959682
Yes timmy...
https://www.gamewatcher.com/news/2017-31-08-ex-id-software-developers-are-calling-tim-willits-a-liar-over-claims-regarding-quake-multiplayer-maps

should people also say about you harassing McGee and Sandy, or you fucking over Brian Hook at the last moment with Quake 2's original Ai when you smiled telling him that carmack changed the code because of you?
Or the retarded Anal Sex jokes?

>>6959720
A good MP browser/netcode would be at the top of the list of I were developing it. Then I would fix the menu UI because right now it's a little meh on PC.

>>6959737
You should post evidence of those other things.

>>6959792
Stop being Casual and search the /vr/ archive

>>6959729
Nobody liked snapmap, and the guys making eternal have stated multiple times that they want to roll out mod support.

>>6959801
They wanted to get invasions in there but instead settled on the powerful demons from player deaths. Do the math.

was it a fair criticism?

>>6959817
You already made an entire thread for that.

>>6959817
it took them 5 months to write a review?

wads that let me play as a cacodemon?

>>6959817
the last paragraph was a "too soon" moment

>>6959817
No.

>>6959664
Not a joke nonce but I see the webm now. Better.

>>6959859
How so?

>>6959497
What can I download to achieve this?
Links?

>>6959817
No, though I could see a DOOM-like game with some RPG elements where you can form high-risk pacts to have potential. If it's exactly like DOOM where your endgame is to kill allllll the demons then it'd be a really tough fit, but they could make hell a bit less black-and-white, introduce different factions and have the player's endgame be to kill a specific big bad demon or something. It'd take a lot of work but if it worked out I'd play it for sure

>>6959732
>including the master levels
Yikes

>>6959903
I used this as a guide to adjust GZDoom's visuals, along with tweaking things on my own in the end:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JC8fnz_L3k
I don't remember where I got the mirrored corpses and blood fixer, probably some zdoom forums post I'm far, far too lazy to find. Here they both are:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/1bn4nv01m6aj70v/Mirrored_corpses_and_colored_blood.zip/file

>>6959913
There are good master levels
There are some extremely fucking BAD master levels but there are good ones

Fun fact: If you complain about archviles in a map, you're literally gay

>>6959913
Posterity's sake. Also a few of them are decent.

>>6959917
just use vanilla essence, no need to waste your time on a 10 min video

>>6959970
Hey, there you go.

>>6959796
Ive seen you post these things in the past, that's not evidence.

>>6959810
Stop telling people to do math and speak plainly. No one thinks it's cute or fun to decipher your veiled intentions.

>>6959994
Do the math.

>>6959995
Do the dew.

>>6959623
>that bodyshape
Doomguy is secretly Brock "Barbosa" Samson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHIsL2LdsAo

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>Love treasure tech loot drops and treasures
>hate its weaponset
is there anything similar that adds loots to monsters? or random treasures scattered around stages?

>>6959664
This .pk3 just makes my Switch crash :(

Oh well.

>>6959596
Reminder secondly that when everyone called him out, he only doubled down instead.

>>6960079
>>6959664
Ok maybe I should have mentioned that this mod was developed and tested on GZD 4.4.2, as it's written completely in ZScript and uses many ZScript features, I am sorry. I thought I had mentioned that already?

If the Switch port can handle at least DECORATE, there's still an ancient version over at the ZDoom forums.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=65052&p=1109799&hilit=lawgiver#p1109799

>>6958694
This is pretty neat anon. Thanks for sharing. I think I'll leave it up on the side as inspiration while working on my wads.

>>6960080
Really have respect Romero for namedropping Marathon in reference to that whole situation. The dude really cared about video games once upon a time.

>>6960095
Romero and Carmack were known to just give code and money to teams to make their projects a reality. They loved their craft and largely still do.

>>6960073
There's always Guncaster for loot I guess. Though what's the problem with Treasure Tech's guns?

what if .. someone was crazy enough to make a full DnD 5e mod for Doom complete with tools for generation of NPCs, loot, etc

>>6960127
I am biased towards stuff with too much recoil or needing excessive reloading

>>6960145
I just want them to port and make more RPG games. I'd love traditional more traditional RPG spinoffs.

>>6960145
They'd be a fucking retard for using a shitty edition.

>>6960145
that someone would have to first make Doom turn-based for this not to become complete total unsalvageable garbage, of course

>>6960149
The recoil stuff used to be far worse on Treasure Tech, but at least the reloading thing isn't a problem.
There's also The Edge of Time if you like picking up a shitload goodies with every killed monster, though it gets often gets into sensory overload territory.
If all else fails, you could always just make your own mod with all that loot stuff and weapons that suit your fancy.

>>6960179
I will check edge of time,i am sure i saw something similar but forgot the name,lets see if its this one

>>6960090
Yeah, the latest switch version is GZdoom 4.3.3 build from February.

I'll have to wait for an update maybe if it's to do with something like that.

>>6959729
>>6959810
Is this poster a massive faggot? Do the math.

>>6959817
Edge has never been a reliable source for video game journalism. I would rather take the opinion of a thousand flies eating shit than anyone who worked for Edge.

>>6959817
>April 1994
Lazy fucks

>>6960251
t. Hugo Weaving.

>>6960259
>you are just pressing buttons and your life has no meaning
still makes me chuckle to this day

>>6960259
What a bunch of doubletwats.

>>6960259
>opinion articles bad >:^|

>>6959817
It's not fair Ultima bros.

>>6960293
They are if the opinions are bad, yes.

>>6960293
It seems foolish to have a gaming magazine trashtalking the industry and its userbase, like it's some fucked up ploy to turn away people from the industry and your own magazines. Even moreso when you pull the same bullshit three years in a row.
Besides, games journalism always has been worthless and will continue to be worthless.

also using NPC memes are gay, step it up son and post better.

>gaming journalism is worthless but i'm still mad about it 5 years later

Alright, hijacking this retard's cryfest. What wads have you guys been playing lately? I've been going through Freedoom 1 since I never got around to it and man, it's a fucking blast. The levels are very tightly designed with a lot of really hard encounters. It feels like the good middle ground between Episode 1's level design and Episode 4's encounter design. Large enough to let you maneuver and play around in, but hard enough to keep you tested.

>>6960325
Hey now, I'm not even the one who originally posted that dumb edge thing, but if you're gonna make a snide remark about my post, you give me that (you) I earned.

>>6959551
lets see
>Mutants were Crimson red with bright eyes and the textures show reptilian legs, but their AI is garbage compared to fiends
>Og Maidens had better meshes, mainly the buggy Left Arm, which served as inspiration for the toy
>Tech barrels had better looking textures and a better mesh, mainly from Decino's video.
>Flyer looked more deadly
>Enforcer had more polygons in their arms

>>6960092
I found the link from the Doomed Speed Demos Archive youtube channel. IIRC Zero Master runs that channel

>>6960371
I almost wish it was no sound and just music. Could double as a really chill midi listening channel too. Decided to mute it and throw on some dwango midis that doom kid ripped and it works pretty well.

>mfw I still have all these frames left to do
>mfw this monster is going to probably take all week

>>6960376
just mute the sound effects

>mfw I haven't even started my map yet either

>>6960376
>dwango midis that doom kid ripped
link?
>>6960419
you can't mute the sound effects and just play the music, it's a twitch stream

>>6960446
https://youtu.be/JlaYkoIeoEc

It's in the description.

>>6960402
>>6960424
What are you making?

>>6960463
Something spooky.

>>6959796
Burden of proof is on you

>>6959551
Timmy Wimmy is certainly a giant cockhead, and has been doing stupid shit as recently as Quake Champions, but I don't understand why you've been bringing up the exact same subject for multiple threads in a row. He isn't going to see it, hardly anyone here cares, and the more you bring it up, the more people will call you a retard.

>>6960482
Go to bed, Tim.

>>6960476
>>6959984
Search the archives, stop using vpn to change the IP and stop being a faggot!
Even here and fucking reddit of all places has pulled out the shit he did.

Quake 2's blaster frustrates me, it's a cool looking design but holy shit it sucks mechanically.

>>6960496
Again, burden of proof is on you. When you make a claim you have to prove yourself right, you can't tell the other guy to prove you wrong and be taken seriously. I don't have a horse in this race I'm just telling you not to be that guy

>>6960497
Infinite ammo starter pistols are always a hard thing to balance and make satisfying, but they really dropped the ball. At least Unreal's pistol can be upgraded, has an altfire, and the light effect has use for dark areas.

>>6960524
I still think the blaster would have benefited with either a quick melee attack/kick, or a charge shot of some kind.
But yeah, they are.

What is the Drawn Together of Doom mods?

>>6960549
Aeon something.

>>6960496
>stop using vpn
You can't use a VPN here newfag it's bannable

>>6960524
worse is that enemies that should use more powerful weapons doesnt it >>6959551
The Makron and the tanks has blaster sweep instead of Hyperblaster itself, the Technicians and Flyers has hyperblaster volleys but the Icarus who is supposed to be a tougher version of the Flyer doesn't it, it has blaster shots.

>>6960537
Decino was working on that before his HDD died out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd4TPPqgrzs
Sadly the "remake" that came from it from another guy is tied to fucking Quake2Pro...

>>6960562
>he doesnt know

>>6960568
What the fuck, I didn't know it was Decino making the brutal Quake 2 mod. what a shame because the new mechanics he added make Quake 2 look fun as fuck.

>>6960496
the archive is only going to show *you* - popping in every day at the same exact time and posting something inane. pretty much every thread from the last year, ctrl+F "Q2" - there you are being a retard.
the curious part is that at the beginning of the year you were actually trying to pretend that Q2 is the best in the series by consensus. and these days all your posts are about how Q2 is shit and it's all Tim's fault. keep it up, might develop some taste in a few more years.

>>6960549
Aeons of Death

>>6960624
>the archive shows only (you)
Are you really desperate alf?
Only because once of your friends is /vr/ janitor? hence why your shitposts here are not deleted?

or the fact that you and said janitor are from Resetera?

>>6960641
Is that true?

Why are there so many shitpost enablers these days.
If you're responding to shitposters, you're just as bad as they are.
REPORT AND IGNORE

>>6960496
I've never used a vpn in my life, and the archives don't show a source because you've never given one.
Give source. Give it. I want to see tim willies being a dipshit, I really do. Id drama is interesting.

>>6960496
Unless you have tangible proof to show, you're just blowing smoke up people's asshole. You want people to believe your position? Then quick being a lazy cocksucker.

>>6959497
>>6959903
>>6959917
If you want to randomize the uniform color of dead and gibbed marines, grab this
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1z3uFL3VDmDmgnqJpCGP62X6T-aXj-nZo/view?usp=sharing

>>6960641
And before someone asks it, or even goes "proofs"
Alf and most of the new janitors from here and /tg/ and /vg/ are from one of Resetera's discord groups, they are changing it regularly to evade people from tracking them and report due to "Cheese Pizza" shenanigans after /v/ denounced and shown screenshots of the original group a year ago, who even has Discord admins in it.

most of the /pol/ and anti HL and 3d fps baits here which also includes Q1, Q2 and even Q3 of late here and on /vm/ are mostly made by some of them due to the fact that said community is more resistant to their garbage political baits, since most of the Quake community is more Multiplayer focused than modding, and most of the mappers don't give a fuck for it and rather map and mod. Which makes them seethe.

>>6960653
Have you never noticed how all of alf and his group's Shitposts and lefty/pol/ baits until recently were always deleted or removed due to breaking the board's rule, but now all of them all over /vr/ are not, plus anyone who reports them gets deleted or banned while their stays it?
Yes, it because they like resetera did on /tg/ managed to put one of them as janitor so they can shitpost and derail for free. And worse is that we can't do nothing until the admins chose new ones.

Worse is that the asshole and his friends are also a Blizzard Shillbots, and the one making the Shadowlands posts on /v/ and /vg/. i kinda wish to know what kind of person does this type of shit 24/7 and if he and his garbage friends feels pleasure with it.
By all means, just report all of them once you see any Anti Quake games, HL or political bait in it and hope that another janitor deals with it.

people are even leaving this board because of them.

>>6960742
I think people are leaving the board for another, much more obvious change to it

>>6960750
>leaving the board for another
Where are they going to, /v/?

>>6960764
Leaving the board -because- of another change to it, I fucked up the wording
I don't know where posters are going to from here, given how 8/vr/ is so dead to be laughable

>>6960742
I just assume the mods are uncaring and lazy as fuck as always, which has largely always been the case on 4chan, the only time it was responsive on /vr/ was when someone in these threads was a jannie, and even then he had to sleep.

You're going to need something more than just conjecture to convince me that there's a Resetera stooge in modstaff actively colluding against the userbase.

I've been on this board for 20 years and honestly those based boys on here who define themselves by their consumer choices and the preferenced they had as children really get on my nerves. Nobody cares that you used to like Quake. Like literally, nobody is even mildly interested in what games you played as a child. Stop wearing that t shirt and lazer that NIN tattoo ofd your ass.

You're an adult. It's unhealthy to define yourself this much by your childhood interests. Let your kid play the games that he wants to play and define his own childhood, instead of trying to hijack these years of his life to use it as another trophy shelf for your own memories. Those games you are trying to desperately make him like, he's not gonna like them. He won't, because they suck. They are fucking garbage games by today's standards. If minecraft or fortnite existed back then, everybody would have been playing that instead. Let your kid have fun, and grow up, you manchild. You have a son. If you are still this desperately empty that you are trying to define your life with novelties, you clearly don't appreciate what it means to be a father.

This is what happens when you pretend that we're past "you need to become a man" as a society. They don't.

/rant

>>6960742
>plus anyone who reports them gets deleted or banned
Not been my experience.

>>6960786
>I've been on this board for 20 years
/vr/ is only seven years old

>>6960786
Cool bait, here's your (you)
No one else reply to this fag

>>6960750
>>6960772
Months ago even at slow pace, this place had tons of cool stuff, there it was none of this retarded baiting shitpost and everyone was having fun playing any game and we helping it, even HUMP and REKKR came from here and it was great! Plus we've got quakewulf maps, Quake 1.5, the coolest map jams and so on.
Now this thread doesn't even last 2 days without the incessant shitpoting coming from one group who doesn't even play the games and goes shitposting 24/7, and they would rather post memes than discuss, play or even mod or map.

Its tiresome, and reporting them doesn't even work anymore, unless a miracle happens.

>>6960794
4chan as a whole is also only 17 years old.

Ok, lets at least TRY to get the thread back on track.

DOOM GAUNTLET
1. Go here, download and play what you get
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?random
2. Re-roll if you get deathmatch levels or anything else that isn't singleplayer levels.
3. Post a screenshot and a review of what you just played.

Have fun, bros

>>6960804
I don't disagree with you but I think the recent decay of the thread's quality is a symptom of the board change as a whole. It's people coming in here shitposting, as well as newfags replying to our old shitposters.

>>6960804
I dunno what /vr/ you've been on, but it's always been a combination of people getting together to make or show things with bursts of shitposting and garbage. Cool things still get made and cool things will still be made and talked about.

How about you just ignore what irks you and play something like 2048; you'll live happier if you stop letting it consume your life.

>>6960804
2048 was great, and we'll keep coming back to such greatness.

>>6960804
>REKKR came from here
Holy shit really? How long until unity doom gets more /vr/ mods

>>6960784
There is, check their toxic bin one day at the retro and board games areas.
They always claim that "/tg/ and /vr/ are the safest havens for us" on /tg/'s case they used the D&D threads to spread all over the damn board.
In our case, you can mostly blame twitter tourists and retro tubers who posts here and there, and some idiots at both Quake and Doom community who instead of ignore them showed this place to them via twitter or Discord Mapping groups, who would rather talk about politics than map, play or mod the game.

and if they see someone doing any of the 3, they sperg and start throwing baits.
its tiresome

>>6960786
/vr/ is SEVEN YEARS OLD!
i was here since the days when trainwiz made /v/space threads and oblivion modding was religion at /v/.

you are nothing but an nigger throwing baits to derail this conversation as you always do

>>6960784
>the only time it was responsive on /vr/ was when someone in these threads was a jannie
wasn't even a janny, was he? he said it was a borrowed badge.

>>6960804
that's because you're the shitposter. derailing threads, spamming the newspost, posting 20 times in a row every 90s. what would a shitposting spammer do that you don't?
and don't take credit for other anons' projects - pretty sure it was you who said you weren't ever going to do any mapping.

>>6960858
>projecting this hard
here is the culprit

>The map gives you a berserk pack and barely any weapons
I both love and hate these so much. On one hand its fun turning Imps into paste with a single punch, but it's also a pain in the ass to fight everything with just your fists.

Please stop responding

>>6960804
>Months ago even at slow pace, this place had tons of cool stuff, there it was none of this retarded baiting shitpost and everyone was having fun playing any game and we helping it, even HUMP and REKKR came from here and it was great
Nigga hump and rekkr were like years ago. And Rekkrguy and Quakewulf still post here.
>Now this thread doesn't even last 2 days without the incessant shitpoting coming from one group who doesn't even play the games and goes shitposting 24/7, and they would rather post memes than discuss, play or even mod or map.
It seems like almost all of the shitposting comes from literally one guy, the Half-Life spammer. You cant blame everybody for one autist ruining things.

>>6960809
The Raven, by Matt Bollier. According to the wad data and text file it was finished on 1/1/1996 and uploaded to a Compuserve forum.
It's brown and every enemy is a hitscanner. Text file has some backstory about you taking on the Columbian army but al you need to know is it's brown and full of hitscanners with only one area that has any health. Chaingunners on ledges, shotgunners and chaingunners waiting on the other side of elevators, you get the idea. Nothing worth playing 4/10 they tried. Seems the author went on to make a few other wads in '96 but then disappeared, no real impact on the scene

>implying /vr/oom hasn't always been a shitshow
SArais was right all along

Is it irresponsible of me to buy the Quake vinyl when I don't have a record player?

>>6960943
Broken clocks and all that. But it's definitely gotten dumber over the years. You can't argue that.

>>6960948
Very much so
The songs were digitally mastered I'm pretty sure, there's not even any real benefit to playing it on vinyl

>>6960809
I got this shit, PE01.WAD, some unfinished level.

>>6960953
A clock doesn't need to be broken to tell the right time.

>>6960956

>>6960957
My point still stands, this place has gotten stupider over the years. Regardless of what one person claims, this place has always had its shitposters and assholes, but it's gotten increasingly worse.

>>6960965
It's not just this place. It's the entire community; and always has been.

>>6960965
Enjoy it while it's here. Eventually each board turns into a Facebook wall over time.

>>6959817
They really should've waited for SMT.

>>6960948
..speaking of the vinyl: https://www.nin.wiki/Quake_Soundtrack
we were joking about it, but apparently:
>The final, blank side of the vinyl is etched with program code from the game.
and also re:fan-made track names:
>Titles of songs or themes (C) 1996 TVT/Interscope Records.

>>6960969
Have you seen facebook recently? That place is so horribly out of touch with anything human that it could only be a result of unhinged judaism. Then again, so has this place been too from the start. It was jewish money that funded this place since the start. This is all part of the plan.

>>6960809
I got bs_l21, made 08/09/94, author I think someone called CSPARKS. Made to replace E2M1, it was a solid map, especially for one from 1994. Lots of shotgun zombies to keep you on your toes, very helpful secrets, and some nice level design.
I'd recommend it!

>>6960568
>>6960621
It was his Quake 2-stuff that made me start watching the channel but his doom-analysis is rather decent too.

>>6960953
Honestly, Alf at his most autistic can't compare to S'arais' freakouts, that shit got INTENSE.

>>6960965
Not by very much.

>>6961018
"freakouts" with ranting bullshit that made more sense than the 75% majority of the goddamn DOOM fandom can push out of their asses and terrible map designs that make zero fucking sense and simply follow irresponsible map design for the sake of cultist fanaticism.
Hi Alf.

What are some cool Halloween-style maps for Quake 1 (or 2)?

Is there a mod that makes the quake 2 weapons feel better? The basic 4 are all really, really bland. So-so sound effects, mediocre impact particles, no muzzle flash. It doesn't feel like I'm shooting at all, the enemies just play pain animations because I clicked them. The hyperblaster is fun at least. Haven't gotten the railgun or rocket yet, so can't comment on those.

>>6961018
>S'arais' freakouts
He wasn't exactly wrong, though. Wouldn't matter what he did, people screamed no matter what. People were only interested in harrassing them, then giving them conflicting information so they could be setup for future failures.

>tfw banned from posting images from my wired connection and banned altogether on my mobile connection because some subhuman piece of shit in my range posted CP
I swear, if I ever find that person, they will pray they had been struck by lightning four years ago.

I wanted to post something that people might have liked, but like this, you get nothing! GOOD DAY!
Hopefully I can post tomorrow from work

>>6959551
Quake 2 RESTORATION PROJECT WHEN?

>>6961052
Damn thats fucked up. Always find your updates interesting.

>>6961052
>banned altogether on my mobile connection because some subhuman piece of shit in my range posted CP
from what i understand, phoneposting is banned because of how easy it is to ban-evade by toggling airplane mode on/off

>>6961034
Q1 has halloween map jams
Q2 has some neat stuff at the >>6957268 dropbox link but the good to go stuff is Hexorcism and Cranky Steve's haunted House

>>6961061
I wish. Hiro's gotta make his money and phoneposters are a big source of browsers now

>>6961061
Well, the ban message gives me a ban active since 2016 for something cp related. But I have also been rangebanned on other boards for some pedophile polnigger spamming/flooding/evading/requesting

>>6960809
>A fucking sewer map
>DMHSEWER.WAD
It has two maps, but I'm only reviewing the first because I'm tired. Also I couldn't find a better screenshot. It was actually quite charming aside from a dark maze section. There's a lack of variety on demons and weapons, but it's still fairly fun; if a bit too compact at times. Not too challenging or annoying however.
Also I couldn't tell if I was going insane and the chaingun had a faster firerate than normal. I couldn't find any mention of that though.

>>6960965
For all the problems with these threads and 4chan, most probably see it as a last piece of an old wild west internet when everywhere else is a sci-fi 1984/Brave New World dystopia
Maybe people hate the "evil hacker known as 4chan" because they wish they were "him" and have jealousy over it doing a better job at being edgy/counter culture, when their "rebel" beliefs are "backed" by corporations and the powerfull elite
Most websites feel like they have restrictive speech and less anonymity, so these sites aren't just a scary boogeyman, but also the "alternative" underdog
For all the "heckin wholesome bean" Tumblr/Reddit users, some probably get so sick of those sites' natures, they go to 4chan just to shout the word FAGGOT like a form of relief, as if they had a gun in their head this whole time
For all the talk about taking down the rich and authoritarians, some either become too soft they even censor the word "kill" like it's a slur or become snitches themselves and get in cancel culture because you said "Guacamole Nigga" so somehow you deserved to have your life ruined
Some people used to be edgy SA/chan edgelords before they became too soft and treat even former friends as liabilities for their hack careers before they're exposed as "male allies" or whatever breadtube shit happens
Gets worse when the internet is treated as just 6 existing websites with less features, moderated by intentionally poorly made algorithms

>>6961072
hmm. whenever i post from my phone it says the IP range is banned due to abuse, unless i'm hooked up to my wi-fi

>>6961061
It's not, I occasionally make a post here when taking a shit.

>>6961065
I checked the map jams, do they run on Quakespasm 0.93 or is that not good enough to run them? (concerning the "Note: These maps require a source port with increased limits. " warning)

>>6961106
Quakespasm IS a port with increased limits. AFAIK it's the default port to play custom maps on unless the author says otherwise (i.e. Quake 1.5 only runs on a specific version of Dark Places that it is bundled with)

What do you prefer to change in an FPS's hard mode - less resources, less health, more enemies, or more difficult enemies?

>>6961118
A combination of all of those things, varying from level to level.

Anything but more enemies and bullet sponges.
I prefer smarter enemies and less resources.

>>6961106
read the pasta, any modern port has no problems with that.
All of them pretty much has Increased limits

>>6961115
Doesn't 1.5 runs on FTE and Quakespasm Spiked because both has Custom modding support unlike QS?

>>6961126
Yeah, just grading up the health and damage values of enemies is lazy, it's much better to just replace existing enemies with harder ones, and more of them.
Doom got that right in 1993.

>>6961127
from the moddb page ( https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-15 )
>This mod requires darkplaces as it makes use of engine extensions specific to DP

>>6961118
Instant reaction times and respawning monsters (double ammo to make up for it)

>>6961052
Just upload to streamable/Imgur and post a link

>>6960809
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/a-c/castlefr
Got Castle of Fear, apparently a rejected map for Doom the way ID did. Eh, it was alright I guess. Plenty of ammo, but I wasted it 'cause I didn't expect the cyberdemon fight at the end...

>>6961118
of these four - more enemies.
but best hard modes tend to be the ones that enforce no saving, meaning the devs actually have to balance the game around it.

>>6961205
Are there any other Quake clones other than Chasm?

>>6961212
And Unreal.

>>6961040
It feels like they compensated for everything else with the railgun's intensive particle effects in particular. That beam, especially for 1997-standards, was quite elaborately made and looks impressive to this day. The BFG looks nice too and is the basis for the BFG ever since.

>>6961057
I wish if I had the time. I also wish I could do something with the Lazarus mod too and all the missing animations and items and such that the game has. Would be neat to make a mission pack addon using this.

>>6961192
Oh, forgot to mention that the music for the level was the spider mastermind fight music. Which was really annoying; seriously, don't use that track for longer maps, it gets really repetitive.
>>6960809
Also want to thank you for that link: didn't know idgames HAD a random function. Now I have a nice new bookmark for getting random maps.

>>6961115
>>6961127
This is nothing to worry about, r-right?

>>6960364
The buggy left arm was inspiration for the figure? Or this original version was?

First night mapping progress. This is fun.

>>6961236
Damn, you're making me itch to start mapping, but I'm not done yet.

>>6960809
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/heretic/g-i/hell
This was fucking brutal. First map only gave me a crossbow before throwing me into a tight maze full of ghost warriors. Second map was clearly not designed for wand starts and had some of the rudest weredragon placements I've ever seen. Third map was a slugfest that ended with a horrible lava room full of weredragons. I actually had to save my ring of invulnerability for that instead of the maulotaur fight before it. Overall, not great, but for a 1995 effort it could certainly have been worse.

>>6961236
>mfw I keep hitting TrenchBroom hotkeys when trying to use UDB
fug

>>6961232
If you look at Q2's Iron Maiden and Beta model you may notice that the Shoulder and arm vertex meshes seems fucked, it even clips and it has some bits clipping it
even the Toy Model has the original blocky arm, but without the Blocky shoulder.

>>6961230
probably. I think QSS complains about precaching in AD all the time, maybe it's just more strict than others

>>6961258
closer pic

you know I never cared for the Strogg but if they managed to make them fucked up cosmic bio horror like that one chapter of Swamp Thing in the Moore era I would be all over it

>>6961273
I like the spooky eldritch creatures in 1 better, but I actually quite like the strogg for what they are, they're like a heavy metal Borg Collective.

Are you fucking kidding me? I was planning to use the exact same pun in my own project!

>>6961335
It's okay anon, you can always resort to needlessly gross and nonsensical names like Shitting Out Of My Dickhole

>>6961340
Nah, that's not my style, my style is lame puns.

>>6960809
>https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?random

I got
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/d-f/futility
by a certain Ijon

An invasion-style survival map! This was actually pretty fun, though so wide open that picking the chaingun and sniping any hitscanner in sight kind of took priority over everything else. Then I ran into a unusually strong rev rocket and died ! It did so much damage that I was in fact a little surprised, I thought I had more health. Getting something this playable was honestly a huge surprise.

AD any good on Hard or do I gotta play on Nightmare for the true experience?

>>6961402
Tried again and did a bit better, got plasma and rockets thanks to a small arena where I could focus down a bunch of cacos without worrying about outside enemies interfering-- in this wad you spawn all your supplies by killing monsters, some of which appear outside but most of which is in a center area where you retreat to once in awhile and restock at.
Weapons are automatically doled out as you kill monsters and raise your score, it seems to be a bit strange in how they are given out as my second run gave me a chaingun first instead of a shotgun, could be related to the enemies I found out of the gate. Eventually ran into a mancubus fireball and died. A good wad!

>>6961236
Looks good anon. Try to use more variance in verticality for the path the player takes. It's pretty flat except for the end when you go up the stairs before immediately dropping back down.

>>6961506
Thanks! The area between the hell knight and caco is going to see some loving next. My main goal was making the blue key route feel relatively good. From there I'll figure out how I want to handle the yellow and red keys.

>>6958621
Yes it does.

>>6961205
>that bar occupying the screen near
Everything else's great, but fix that

I know he was just the engine guy, but are there no maps out there made by John Carmack?

Quake 2 will never be good.

>>6961408
Go on hard, the maps were made for it.
Nightmare is hard depending of your skill

>>6961604
Evading bans Alf?

Ffs guys feeding trolls (You)s isn't going to make the thread better. Anyways, what wads are y'all playing today? I'm going through Rekkr and getting my ass kicked, it's probably one of the best conversions I've found. I particularly like how the ammo mechanic was implemented, it encourages playing in a bit more of a risky manner to get the optimal amount of souls from enemies so you can keep progressing.

>>6960809
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/g-i/halibut
I got a doom1 map made in 1994 before the release of doom 2. 25% of the enemies are stuck inside walls or each other. The majority of doors don't use door textures. There are exactly two secrets, right next to each other, unmarked, and required for progression. The exit switch is just a brick wall, with 3 spectres stuck together blocking your path. beautiful map.

>>6961621
My main issue with Rekkr is I'm not sure the auto aim is up to snuff with enemies of that speed. I feel like I can't hit shit with my arrows.

>>6961621
I'm fighting procrastination so I could work on my project, and I'm losing badly.

>>6961679
That reminds me: My strife project is never coming out

what are some good doom youtubers

>>6961624
You could try not relying on it.

Playing pic related as my first exposure to Duke at 27 years old, is there any way I can get the mouse to feel more 'modern' if anyone has experience

>>6960809
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/p-r/pipeline

> PIPELINE.WAD (version 1.0)
> 02/22/95

Tiny map with labyrinth, a few stairs and elevetors, not so much more.

It's ok for 1995 i guess, maybe this was experimental back then, idk what map tools were out there back then.

Bros,
Can you play doom on the oculus quest without getting motion sickness?

Fuck TnT. First time playing it. I can't tell if Habitat is a good map or not. It's a mess design wise, but it feels so MUCH better than the slogs the previous two levels were.

>>6961792
MtPain27, Decino, and then Civvie if you want a sheer entertainment piece

>>6961796
Use eDuke32 sourceport. Mouse in World Tour's busted

>>6961796
Buy the megaton edition in a certain website and use Eduke

Does anyone have a download link for abort_m/can host one? Just learned it got removed, such a bummer (fuck copyright).

>>6960809
Can i say FUCK YOU! for forcing me to revisit this?
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/g-i/imposs

>>6961856
I've never heard anyone speak of Habitat in a positive manner, but from what I remember, it only goes down from there

>>6961856
oh boy wait until you hit mount pain

>>6959817
Dont make peace with evil, destroy it

>playing pumpkinhell.wad
>orange door refuses to open in gzdoom.4.whatever
>works perfectly in glboom+, zand, etc
GRRRAAAAFFFFFFFFFFF

>>6960809
>sees link
>"ya know? never tried this lets give it a whirl"
>first link
>you are not alone.wad
>multiplayer only
>mfw

>>6961908
Im not kidding when it comes to FUCK YOU!
This is what happens when you mix all of Plutonia's dickery in one single map, and by dickery all of the traps as puzzles.
And amplify them into full sadistic mode

>>6961796
Why would you do that yourself? That thing is a pile of steaming dung. You can HEAR how bad it is. The smell is THAT rank.

>>6960809
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/d-f/evil_e

WAD NAME: evil_e.wad
WAD Description: My first attempt!
Author: Ian Suhrstedt
Contact: isuhrste@vtel.com

NOTEs on the level:
1. Try it first without any of the codes...you'll enjoy it more.
2. All of the monsters appear on all levels, so changing the skill
levels won't help you there.
3. Most objects are there for a reason, i.e. location of secrets.
4. Level is compatible with deathmatch and co-op modes.
5. Look closely at the faces on the ship...

Please give me feedback on anything you deem necessary. Thanks.
Have fun!

Review: What can I say, this is a guy's first level, and it's pretty much what you'd expect from a beginner's wad, be it in 1994 or even today. It's pretty fun, though, and there's even a ship! One in which you can get a free megasphere on, by flipping one demon face switch, which is even hinted in the description, since apparently a free megasphere was that big of a deal back then. Important to note, it also features a room which resembles a skull in the automap. This guy was certainly trying to be 'innovative'.
The level's progression is nonlinear, and depending on the path you take, you may take a plasma rifle or a rocket launcher sooner than if you'd proceeded through another path first.
100% on everything, 16 minutes (I got lost because I missed two eye-switches in the skull-shaped room)
Overall, not a bad map. And considering 90s standards, I give it a 7/10.

>>6960809
YES thank you anon

i played
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/g-i/impending

(actually i skipped a few that were unbearable)

it's a decent but very easy map that seems someone's first attempt. still, lots of attempts at detail

>>6960809
>>6962062
another screenshot, some lighting effects

>fighting archvile
>have cover and good rhythm
>shoot him during his attack animation
>he stops attacking and runs towards me, ruining the cover and fucking me over
This happens way too often.

>>6962080
gotta listen for dat pain sound

>>6961901
Wait, you can still buy that somewhere?

okay I now realize that it's meant to be a dog sniffing but I definitely thought at first that the teeth were legs and the nose and jowls were an ass and the key was some kind of one-eyed thing twerking at me

>>6962124
>dog sniffing
I don't see anything. That is literal garbage

>>6960809
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/d-f/dmlamou2
This map was okay for a while. Ugly, but it had some neat gimmicks to it and nice flow.
Its main issues stem from its absolute lack of weapons. There's only 3 pickups on the entire map that I was able to find- a chainsaw that was unobtainable, a rocket launcher with like 8 total rockets throughout the entire map, and shotguns dropped by zombies. This map also expects you to kill a Spiderdemon with said shotgun in order to progress, and doesn't give you any ammo back in return.
I gave up on it after dying to the final room full of pinkies and imps while I had a measly dozen or so pistol shots left while everything else was empty. A room that was also booby trapped with barrels under a crusher that would instakill you if you didn't move forward enough.
Pic related is me pistoling a group of pinkies to death because I had no ammo for anything else.

>>6958425
The idle frame should be angled upwards at least a bit.
As of now it loos really flat

Like OG Beretta is angled upwards.

>>6962170
Problem is, since the dial case is so huge (and I already shrunk it), it would basically look the same; if you look closely you can just see the barrel peeking out during the recoil frame. That's a reason why I am debating going angled.

Anyhow, here's a concept for an enemy I am not sure I can finish all the frames for.

>>6960309
Game Journalism was fine in 85-2003 or so, when printed publications still had actual journalists. After that inept blogo-kiddies took over and shit went downhill fast.

>>6962196
I meant more about gear-y-display thing. ANgling it up a bit would improve it greately IMO

>>6960840
AFAIK it's the only dehacked mod to come from here. Could be wrong though.

>>6960819

>>6962207
That's no display, it's the bore scope (another idea I had was using the HD scope system and make crosshairs appear in there). That or angled, whichever I get to work first, probably.

>>6960095
>Really have respect Romero for namedropping Marathon in reference to that whole situation.
Context?

>>6962240

>>6962196
If you're dissatisfied with how it looks and can't think of a way to make it better then yeah, maybe try something different. Going angled might be worth it, it's more work but comparing between angled and straight might give you more ideas.

>>6962196
He could really use a hand but I'm willing to let him off the hook.

>>6962231
>That archvile with all of the revenants

>>6962231
>time-consuming fatalities
Man this is old

>finish Pharoah in TnT
>somehow miss like 70 enemies
Where the fuck were they

>>6962231
>whats good nigguh

jej

>>6960809
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/v-z/voidshp2

pretty delightful map consisting of many tricks/traps/secrets. i ran out of ammo badly at one point and had to chainsaw a lot, but maybe it'd have been fine if i hadn't missed few secrets at that point (there weren't many infight opportunities).

the map is set on a spaceship and has some neat mechanics. in one part there's a thrown made from a sort of cutout artwork of an archvile, haven't seen that before.

fun map, i recommend it.

There's literally nothing wrong with Brutal Doom

>tfw getting a PC just to try Brutal Doom and Quake
It looks fun

>>6962283
Actually that's two hooks, but you can't see it from the front.
Also
>ya tryin' ta make fun 'a me? Ah gots this there dial here....

>>6962365
it's boring.

>>6962365
Yes. Not with itself. It's just gameplay mod. It fucks the balance, but so do most of gameplay mods. The problem are the zoomers, who think it's definite way to play Doom and demand that it's compatible with everything, while in reality it's not even best gameplay, but one of more mediocre ones.

>>6962245
https://rome.ro/news/2017/8/30/multiplayer-only-maps

>>6960809
>https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?random

"midnight tek frenzy"
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/m-o/mtekf

delightful little slaughter map (387 enemies, though 4 didn't teleport in for me). fun traps and non-stop action. not hard except the ending is a bit crappy unless you time it right so the arch viles fight the cyberdemons.

extremely highly recommended

screenshot is from a "tyson alley" where you suddenly punch the crap out of a bunch of imps and pinkies to get the red keycard

>>6962536
thats an extra map in cchest4
map33/34, cant remember which

>>6962541
idgames says cchest4, map35

do you recommend this wad? this map was certainly fun.

>>6961571
Sandy confirmed just now that the Carmacks had a hand in E1M1:

https://twitter.com/SandyofCthulhu/status/1313302411923124225

John Ramone doesn't endorse Brutal Doom because it's the definitive way to play Doom. He just admitted it's hilarious and that they would've broken the industry if they had released Brutal Doom, meaning they would get so much backlash for the violence that it would get every fps banned. And he obviously had the gore aspect of the mod in mind, not the mediocre gameplay.

Idea: Doom RPG but gooder.

I mean you could mock up something with monster sprites and the derek yu tileset from DoomRL
or you could do wizardry style maps with level textures, specially the cooler looking sets like AA or Sunlust

>>6958192
Why don't the recent builds have the metadata in the audio player

>>6961827
I tried playing on the index and it wasn't great.

>>6962556
this wad is fucking awesome, highly recommended

>>6962575
Makes sense. E1M1 showed off just about everything the engine could do over Wolfenstein.

Is there a site for simple guides for decorate and zscript? Right now I've just been following the docs on the wiki

>>6962716
Depends on what you want to do. Simple stuff, there are many tutorials on the usual sites. Specialized stuff, ask around and study the gzdoom.pk3 (ZScript), for DECORATE the wiki is good enough.

>>6962724
Ah cool, most of the time I just searched for specific problems in the zdoom forums aside from the wiki. Don't have much coding experience prior.

>>6962745
On Realm667 there are some older tuts for all kinds of decorate weapons and monsters. For ZScript I am also stumbling my way through, but the basic guide by Jekyll Grim helped me a lot starting out.